7 Awful & Outdated Photo Techniques | This Old Camera Episode 31

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A. Knight

A. Knight

Күн бұрын

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@Grasyl
@Grasyl 10 ай бұрын
3:49 I fakes a ghost using this technique a couple of year ago and posted them into Facebook groups .. and my picture ended up on German television.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see the clip of that.
@MadsBakken
@MadsBakken 10 ай бұрын
Give us that clip!
@scottca9780
@scottca9780 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue that these were hacky effects even at the time, but I'm sure that as a boy, reading about and occasionally experimenting with such things, it expanded my understanding of what was going on between the lens and the film plane. By manipulating the mechanics of the shot you are engaging with the 'how' of a photograph, far more than you would be taking a tasteful picture on P (for professional).
@scottw5791
@scottw5791 10 ай бұрын
the techniques may be easy to replicate in photoshop but there was something magical back in the day when trying these out. they were simple and sometimes corny but they opened up the brain in a way that photoshop doesn't. They weren't the be all and end all rather they were the spark to get your creative juices flowing...and it was always exciting to see after processing how your pics came out if at all. happy little accidents were great to stumble upon and that seems to be a thing of the past.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
It's always fun to experiment, but personally none of these effects are ending up in my portfolio.
@b6983832
@b6983832 10 ай бұрын
Making awful photos digitally does not make them any better.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
Accurate.
@iainmc9859
@iainmc9859 10 ай бұрын
I have to agree with everything you've said; apart from when you're fed up with photoshop and you just want to experiment ... now where's that jar of petroleum jelly and the UV filter gone ?
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
heh, you make a fair point. I think what I was trying to get across is, no one is replicating most of these effects in photoshop either.
@haakon_b
@haakon_b 10 ай бұрын
The Polarizer is actually the only effect that can not be replicated in Software.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
Correct. I mean you could darken skies in some cases but you cannot cut reflections in post.
@danhill2045
@danhill2045 10 ай бұрын
"Day for Night" is also the title of a 1973 film by Francois Truffaut about trying to make a movie under difficult circumstances. It was a common cinematic effect back then. Maybe it still is. It seems simpler than digitally editing umpteen thousand individual frames of film.
@mikesmith-po8nd
@mikesmith-po8nd 10 ай бұрын
Any effect/filter/technique should only enhance the picture, not be the entire picture. Less is definitely more. One of my pet peeves is the waaay over-processed HDR stuff. As bad as Sabatier, imho.
@Grasyl
@Grasyl 10 ай бұрын
2:17 Due to pure coincidence I had a pair of 3D-Glases at hand and the effect is .. weak .. I had to go a view steps away from my monitor to even see this effect.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
Holy shit someone actually did it :)
@rpdee7344
@rpdee7344 10 ай бұрын
@@AzrielKnight I have a few old comic books that came in 3d with a set of colored glasses, the effect was pretty cool, I think one of em might have even been a Batman/Detective one.
@mortimersnerd8044
@mortimersnerd8044 10 ай бұрын
Lensbaby says hold my beer
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
lol, man there's a name I haven't heard in awhile. I remember when those were all the rage.
@MikeLeePhoto
@MikeLeePhoto 7 ай бұрын
Still got my colection of 80s Hoya Filters includiing Mist, Soft Focus, Starburst, Half Blue & Red filters, Multi Prism. Needless to say have hardly used these for years!
@cameraman655
@cameraman655 10 ай бұрын
Cokins were fun, especially when start I out. But after a while they just became cheesy. I played around with them for about 2 years in the early 80s. I may have their catalog lying around someplace.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
I get the appeal but I also have a hard time seeing the utility of most of them.
@browntown52
@browntown52 10 ай бұрын
You can stack *most* circular filters too, either screw or bayonet. The cokin/lee/and other rectangular systems weren't unique in that respect. And when you mentioned circular polarizers at the beginning: unless you're using auto focus or in camera metering, manual cameras like my hassy 503cw do just fine with a linear polarizer. The 1/4 wave glue on addition in circular jobs is just to make your beam splitting toys play together.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
That is correct. Circular filters are threaded on both sides.
@geoffreypiltz271
@geoffreypiltz271 10 ай бұрын
Get a Cokin Filter catalogue from the 1970/80s and you will find it full of truly awful effects photos. I call them "Don't Try This At Home" catalogues. It's almost worth making a video about one.
@Incandescentiron
@Incandescentiron 10 ай бұрын
In the 80s I got dupped into Cokin filters. I wanted the graduated filters to exaggerate a darker blue sky or more exagerated sunset, but the images just looked terrible, grainy and fake. I was so disappointed. I used the polarizer, but better ones were available for the same price.
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead 10 ай бұрын
Graduated filters were used to great effect. But they weren't easy to use and required a fair bit of practice. They were designed not to 'exaggerate' sunsets and such, but to compensate for the very limited dynamic range of slide film in particular. Used carefully they could do this very well. But digital achieving high dynamic range combined with merging multiple exposures made them entirely obsolete.
@moschop72
@moschop72 10 ай бұрын
Ira Cohen did great stuff with mylar in the late 60s/early 70s. Check out the book Into the Mylar Chamber.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
I googled it and it's definitely interesting. I think this article could have gone a lone way if they referenced more talented images.
@paulh6043
@paulh6043 10 ай бұрын
Man, the 80s, huh! You forgot the dreaded Tobacco filter. 😂
@mikesmith-po8nd
@mikesmith-po8nd 10 ай бұрын
Hate on me if you want, but I like my Tobacco filter.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
lol.
@imxg
@imxg 2 ай бұрын
@@mikesmith-po8nd always wanted one, love the effect!
@berkeleygang1834
@berkeleygang1834 10 ай бұрын
Double exposure of (1) closeup of a bride and groom kissing placed over (2) an overall scene of the couple taking their vows in front of the officiant.
@boredgrass
@boredgrass 4 ай бұрын
Solarisation is easy. Just try to make a print in the darkroom of my former highschool... However, at the time (the early 80s), seing that effect motivated us to really experiment! Looking back I would say, manipulating the "true to life, reality depicting" medium photography, presented definitely an invitation to reflect upon the medium, even if not everyone "attended".
@kaczynski2333
@kaczynski2333 10 ай бұрын
I often like to look at people's actual work. My grandmotber said something about having nothing nice to say.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
lol
@newenglisharchitecture1012
@newenglisharchitecture1012 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a Cokin Multi image 7 filter (no 207)... 😳
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
If you like it that's okay :)
@practicalphotography1235
@practicalphotography1235 10 ай бұрын
I thought this might be a gatekeeping video until I watched it. Every one of those techniques are as awful today as in in the 70s-80s
@rpdee7344
@rpdee7344 10 ай бұрын
2/14/24 Olympus new OM camera has added to camera neutral density built in its camera to be able to slow/ blur water digitally also when you can graduate the sky to lower the brightness range to show more details, plus all these smartphone apps that allow all sorts of effects like bunny ears, pig noses, big eyes swap faces and also in motion, the digital age of Cokins I would say but more corny.
@theblackandwhitefilmproject
@theblackandwhitefilmproject 10 ай бұрын
Cool! The big game changer for me with film photography was scanning. I use an Epson V800 scanner with Silverfast and not much else. I scan with the setting Less Auto Sharpness(-) as I feel over sharp scans are just like digital so what becomes the point of film? Over sharp scans also turn soft grain into sand. Cheers!
@dominicwroblewski5832
@dominicwroblewski5832 10 ай бұрын
The only useful filters Cokin had were the graduated neutral density filters.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
There must have been a few that occasionally found some use but basically yeah.
@jacobcamers3325
@jacobcamers3325 10 ай бұрын
i disagree, these are awesome!!
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
to each their own ;)
@yuriythebest
@yuriythebest 10 ай бұрын
#8 - Using film. Back in the day using a physical media was the only way to get an image, but now it's just an outdated pile of baloney for hipsters since you can get the same effect now through a point ant shoot CCD sensor camera or using post-processing and film simulation
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 10 ай бұрын
#9 - painting. Why do people even bother painting a portrait anymore? Like, get a camera Picasso.
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