7 Boss Battles You Won But Not Really

Beating a tough boss is something we take great pride in - which is why we get mad when we discover in the following cutscene that actually we lost, better luck next time. Here are seven times that exact thing happened in videogames. Thanks to commenter Time Dragon for the suggestion, and subscribe for a video like this every Thursday!
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[@distantignition]

Similarly weird situation: you absolutely hand it to a boss, either because you are good or have spent way too much time in side quests, only for the cutscene to indicate that it was a "close fight."

[@beecooler]

i 100% completed botw and was so worried about the fight against ganon that i had about 500 pieces of cooked meat alone, all my op weapons, as many arrows as i could collect....needless to say i barely needed any of that. could’ve finished it with the mastersword alone -_-

[@homerman76]

Or even worse, you absolutely demolish the boss, and suddenly the cutscene tells you that the boss was actually wrecking you

[@johndyer41]

Ninja gaiden 2 is like that lol I hear ya man

[@brightongold4398]

Does Pokémon also count? Always getting that one off comment about how “close the match was” and like lol no, I didn’t even need to change my starter

[@tyrant-den884]

First mini-boss in Tales of Symphonia is my big example for this.

[@KVHOOTEG]

"How's this boss gonna get out this life threatening battle?" "Actually, super easy. Barely an inconvenience!"

[@drewidlifestyle7883]

Wow wow wow

[@hannahclare]

Boss resurrections are tight 👌

[@Skapologist]

So, you have a boss battle for me?

[@LnPPersonified]

Oh man, Bosses getting away unscathed is TIGHT!

[@kadeloblack4774]

Think I crossed over... whoops whoopsie!

[@mattball8622]

Mike: "Why would you make a game about a murder school?" Me: Shuffles to the side to block out the view of my 280 hour save on Fire Emblem: Three Houses

[@boa_firebrand]

* He looks pointedly away from what you discern as RWBY, Naruto, Soul Eater, and assassin classroom. * Anime are different from games kiddo.

[@Baplar]

Monokuma's laughter fading in the distance

[@Fanimati0n]

*laughs in monokuma*

[@mattball8622]

I forgot I left this comment. That save file is over 660 hours now.

[@Fanimati0n]

@@mattball8622 a true gamer

[@hannahclare]

PORTAAAAAL: You finally kill Glados and are rewarded with a fun little musical number, I vividly remember the chills I got hearing "I'm still alive" over and over again at the end..... Oh and then she's back in the sequel 🤦‍♀️

[@andymcp4752]

When that one kid in the playground whips out their "everything proof shield" 🙄

[@Zadanoire]

*Basically yes.*

[@kcollier710]

"I can do this all day/"

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Screw that kid.

[@lumbajackthumbs7755]

I fire the nothing gun, which is effective because it’s the opposite of everything

[@captainquickshadow]

you mean batmans

[@lemminglobber1854]

Knights of the Old Republic: Darth Malak. I was happily stomping him into the ground when Bastilla decided "You can't win this fight!" and promptly got in the way and captured.

[@Stryfe52]

Lol

[@willieoelkers5568]

Yeah, they should have made that one of those super-hard fights that progresses whether you win or lose. Would have made the cutscene much more realistic.

[@Azriel884]

Bruh. I literally just played that part last night! 🤣

[@mayhemmacraider4737]

I killed Malak in 2 hits and the game crashed 5 times in a row. Game needed to get to the cuisine were he drains jedi. So I ran up hit him once and ran away.

[@cameronschlabach312]

Don’t smack talk my boy Joker he’s been with us through the entire story.

[@-leezha-]

Joker is a precious angel who just does his best

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@-leezha- precious angel? Talking a psychopathic nightmare clown that loves torturing men, women, and children

[@-leezha-]

@@deathbykonami5487.... Not the DC Joker. A character from the Mass Effect trilogy...

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@-leezha- oh that Joker must be protected, sorry I misunderstood Due to seeing too many DC Joker fan comments

[@jamesmeppler6375]

He could have been toned down a bit

[@stuffandthings834]

Another boss that did this: Kazuya in Tekken 7. First you murk him as Akuma but get interrupted by orbital death laser, then in the final battle, you whittle down his health bar to 0 as Heihachi. After you do that, SEVERAL TIMES, Heihachi still loses in cutscene.

[@bilbo_t_baggins2762]

"A diamond coated Jason Statham". Is that Jane's Christmas present?

[@deathbykonami5487]

Its a recurring term they use to describe rock hard bosses

[@LnPPersonified]

@@deathbykonami5487 But Jason Statham is already rock hard.

[@maxfelson9467]

@@LnPPersonified that's the point. (?)

[@theelucidator7353]

Actually in that form diamond would probably be pretty easy to break. Diamond is really brittle because it is so stiff. Just saying....

[@WannabeWryter]

Devil May Cry 5 ; The Vergil Boss. No matter how good you are at beating Virgil in the boss battle in the cut scene afterward he's knocking Dante into a wall.

[@raynefrost9084]

"...at which point he explodes." I need to hear this sentence more in my life 😂

[@Tyr_Magnus]

Ansem from Kingdom Hearts: you beat him, but he's not beat. you beat him again, and he's not beat. you beat him a third time, he's still not beat, and he opens the door to Kingdom Hearts. then you find out in the 2nd game he wasn't even Ansem.

[@TheBehenaught]

"delivers devestating hits with more frequency that Taylor Swift" Okay, someone needs a raise.

[@jamesmeppler6375]

After you see what they make....they can go without a pay raise for years. This is what they are paid for, you don't get a pay raise at your work when you do your job like your supposed to right?

[@Jessie_Helms]

I don’t think anyone could forget the opening fight in dishonored. You school a bunch of assassins and then just get picked up like a little kid and told to sit down XD

[@captainsix5640]

To be fair it's duad, he beat the second games antagonist, and had the power of the outsuder when you don't

[@deathbykonami5487]

That whole first chapter was a no win scenario, mostly because it's before you meet the outsider to get your void powers

[@Stryfe52]

At least you get revenge

[@matthewminor6680]

Jane seems so quiet and calm today... ... ...Alright, Jane, who did you kill?

[@DylanGarcia1619]

Probably Cameraman James.

[@cthulhufhtagn2483]

I think she snuck into Andy's Outer Worlds save and amused herself by hitting the mayor over and over again with the Mandibular Rearranger.

[@ravenarcher6797]

@@cthulhufhtagn2483 This does sound like a Jane-thing to do.

[@emmote77]

Sounds like she's got a cold or something to me.

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@DylanGarcia1619 We never see James, so he's probably an all powerful godly figure that the dark lady can't kill I mean have we actually seen him in the list videos and the d&d segments

[@zacharypavlik695]

Alduin from Skyrim. When you defeat him on top of the mountain, he runs away, and you chase him into the afterlife.

[@basilanan]

Fun fact!: The Steel Superman with a sledgehammer is based on a African American folk hero named John Henry! Who in legend beat a machine in steel-driving race. Steel's name is even John "Henry" Irons! It was the first comic my Dad gave to me, and I won't forget it.

[@TheBanishedWind]

Personally, I liked his DCAU incarnation best, but reading about the original was cool. Lois even backed Steel as John came the closest to living up to Clark's ideals as Superman.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Mugen Kagemaru "A barber shop? Gotta hand it to you, Lex. No one would think to look for you here."

[@jamesmeppler6375]

You apparently didn't actually pay attention to the "REAL" story of John Henry...John Henry lost to the machine by a few strokes....

[@basilanan]

@@jamesmeppler6375 My greatest apologies.

[@jamesmeppler6375]

@@basilanan no worries, some things now days change the story a little bit. The story was of modernization and how man can still keep up. You're dead on with your comic knowledge, so good one on ya for knowing that ^_^ My favorite Japanese movie, harakiri is about samurai honor and how it became a facade. The remake made the main character look cowardly and thusly took away from the true message

[@frodobaggins7710]

Dr Eggman from the Sonic games would fit in nicely here. He's survived being on fire and/or exploded multiple times. The only time he's died was when Shadow killed him with a karate chop

[@UltimateHalG]

Eggman died to Shadow on purpose just to make Sonic feel weak

[@SolitasRuisu]

I love to imagine that Shadow's karate chop split eggman's skull in two

[@Transgender-ProphetMohammed]

Egg who? ah yes. Dr. Robotnik.

[@cherrydragon3120]

And even then, he somehow came back for sure cause you can't have a good Sonic game without Eggman~ he's the must have villain

[@mollsgreys5827]

Yeah, but then he got better.

[@Gigawolf1]

Doesn't have a cutscene, but the dark mages of Fire Emblem will "retreat" several times each game. Hubert from Three Houses will do it about eight times, depending on which route you do and who you recruit

[@madcb1233]

What about Gangrel and Aversa from Awakening? You spend most the game chasing after one or the other

[@trevdoge666]

I think most if not all Fire Emblem baddies dont like staying down and just run away, or possess your character to stab your best friend and kill him.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

Also Luca in suikoden 2, xenogears had a few too

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

Assassin's Creed 2 : you survive the blast that knocks everyone else out, create illusions of your past self to help you beat Rodrigo, trash him, switch to cutscene mode,... then he litteraly goes "no !" blasts you and steals the Apple of Eden. And you have to beat him one more time, to STILL let him live in a cutscene !

[@AGrumpyPanda]

The worst part is, if you take the practical route and shoot him, the game pretends you stabbed him so everything could be all drama-y.

[@Fakan]

"...amazing, when you consider it's about child soldiers going to a murder school." Isn't that the plot of, like, at least two animes, three shows and two movies in the past couple years? It's apparently a very popular plot.

[@sjorsfarla3767]

Nabstablook is my spirit animal, got to love him. Loved the moment when you find him in his house and just lay on the ground together

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

becomes one with the universe and turns into a trash bag

[@lonestarlibrarian1853]

I hate it when this happens in games, just makes you feel like you wasted time

[@captainsix5640]

Right! But would you prefer for the entire battle to be cutscene, or would you prefer to just have an unwinnable fight?

[@nin2494]

DELVARO - 6 I’d prefer that my efforts had at least a little affect, like the cutscene changing... y’know, like Sekiro.

[@3113mac]

Especially if you manage a flawless victory and the cutscene has the boss fine a you a bloody mess

[@cortezjolly1604]

@@captainsix5640 it could just be an alternate story

[@captainsix5640]

@@cortezjolly1604 an alternate story? That would be hundreds of hours of work. Unless you just mean oh you beat the main villain role credits

[@Jijijijijij5]

How about every Pokémon battle. I’m so sick of stopping criminals from committing some heinous act just for them to then casually walk past my rival and me without either of us moving a muscle to stop them.

[@Scorpious187]

Joker was not annoying. Conrad Verner was annoying.

[@ledkit]

But at least you can shoot him

[@SleepyQuiet]

Joker was one of my faves. I warmed up to Conrad after he gave me war table assets.

[@Scorpious187]

@@SleepyQuiet Verner had his perks if you kept him alive through all three games. He wasn't *useless*, but he was certainly annoying at times. Joker was never annoying to me. He was brutally honest and hilariously awkward, but not annoying.

[@SleepyQuiet]

Scorpious187 I'm not saying Conrad is useless but he was... Odd. Don't build a shrine of me, it's weird. I couldn't get past the tasteful shine of Shepard. No one can tell me Joker was annoying. He's fun. Also it was established as making jokes to ease the tension in me1. Liars gets mad and Shep can say it's just him trying to help. I freaking love Joker. I say into the universe to hopefully increase my chances of getting an SR1 hat. I need it.

[@Scorpious187]

@@SleepyQuiet I wasn't trying to imply that you said Verner was useless, I was clarifying that *I* wasn't saying he was useless, just a bit annoying at first. He gets considerably less annoying in ME3.

[@kaindracula2662]

I hate this trope. If I'm going to fight someone but can't win because of plot either make the fight unwinnable (with secret cutscene for stubborn people) or just do a cutscene and save the fight for when the plot says I can win.

[@Coldheart322]

On the one hand, the health bar is a representation of your progress in a fight. Having a villain escape when on low health makes some sense. It's the ones where they get up and beat you down that really annoy me. Hey, if I was fighting all this time an noticed I was barely actually hurting him, can I escape instead? Hmm, interesting twist. You get the enemy's HP bar down, and you realise that was only a layer of armour you broke through. The fight continues but now you can escape or continue fighting them. If you continue the fight gets harder, but beating them again gives you some reward while not actually killing them off.

[@andoryuubushido7191]

@@Coldheart322 That's a neat idea. I also agree with kain that it's dumb to reduce their health to 0 only for them to get up and win anyway. Imagine chopping off someone's head and then they just get back up, punch you and put their head back on. They're not a zombie or anything, they merely survived you chopping their head off.

[@seracila432]

Not to mention, you can not fail to not win. If you die, you have to start the fight again 'cause that's a game over

[@orangecat862002]

Don't forget Baldur from God of War! I lost count of the number of times you had to fight that guy and killed him only to find out: nope!

[@JohnZ117]

Should've used mistletoe on him.

[@orangecat862002]

@@JohnZ117 well funny you should say that. That may or may not come into play eventually...

[@JohnZ117]

@@orangecat862002 Only played the first 2, only know the myth.

[@TheOldMan-75]

It's always great to hear the Mass Effect music. So many good memories...

[@lordkarasu2263]

Ah sindel, you were on such a winning streak but you know what they say-"victory is hair today, gone tomorrow".

[@julienarmand1473]

How about the first time you encounter Malak in Knights of the Old Republic ? You can absolutely wail on him, but when his lifebar is empty, he paralyzes you (something you have survived many times up to that point) and your companion does a heroic sacrifice by staying behind so you can escape. I remember the first time I saw that, I was screaming : "No, you fools ! We can take him ! Come on !" It's made even worse by the fact that, since when you *do* fight Malak properly at the end of the game, he is using strange Force powers to boost himself, implying that he *wasn't* holding back the previous time you fought. To this day, I am still contemplating writing a fanfic of what would happen if you just killed him during that first encounter.

[@RazorO2Productions]

Julien ARMAND Yes, totally malak

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

Julien ARMAND write it and send me a link when you finish it

[@Talyrion]

To be fair, Malak in the first encounter is nerfed to the point of absurdity. He has way better everything the second time you fight him, so I guess he was holding back a little the first time around.

[@julienarmand1473]

@@Talyrion Nah, it's explicitly mentioned by Malak himself before the final confrontation that he is being boosted by the very location where you are fighting him.

[@jaquelinelorn1906]

this really is one of gaming's greatest sins

[@TowkayCC]

The other one is microtransactions

[@mitchellneu]

@@TowkayCC absolutely microtransactions need to go dig their own grave and die slowly as they are buried up to the neck....if microtransactions had necks...or a physical form....whatever you get my point.

[@failure2946]

@@mitchellneuda fug did they do to you?

[@mitchellneu]

@@failure2946 more than enough.

[@BeWellDoGood]

When I was a kid and got the first Kingdom Hearts game, I restarted my game over and over to try and beat the "Darkside" heartless at the very beginning. After many attempts I finally did it! Only to enter a cutscene where my keyblade disappears and I lose 😩 what a heartless* trick by the developers.

[@chaseteel251]

New rule: Win to lose fights can end with you losing the fight since it's pointless to have to win a fight just for a cutscene to say "Well yes, but actually no."

[@ginger_cryptid]

The Stranger/Baldur in God of War. He just doesn't stop coming! "I feEeeEEl NOTHING!"

[@steppin-razor]

I know it's like yea, I'm brutally beating the shit outta him but he doesn't even feel it so it's just not as satisfying lol

[@steppin-razor]

And when he does feel it, HE LIKES IT, DAMNIT

[@HavocHounds1988]

Well it makes sense, in the lore of Baldur Freja went around the world asking everything to not harm Baldur for he was so beloved, the only thing she did not ask was the mistletoe because she felt it was too young. People actually would throw objects at Baldur as a sort of game because he was not harmed by anything. Until Loki learned of the situation with the mistletoe and fashioned an arrowhead from it, then handed a bow and the arrow to Hod who was blind and urged him to join in on the fun with everyone else. So Hod fired the arrow and it ended up killing Baldur.

[@gruggerduggerhoose]

Metal gear rex from MGS1 was a prime example of “oh i just battered him like a greasy sausage in a chippy. Aw wait he’s back up? Dammit Kojima!!” Wait what were we talking about?

[@zarnox3071]

The Cyberdemon in DOOM (2016) is killed by removing it's power source, an Argent Accumulator, which is used to travel to hell. It's corpse goes with you, then immediately resurrects itself to fight you again.

[@brianlewolfhunt]

ah yes, a list of one of the most aggravating things that game developers do. Hot tip, if you intend for your players to lose a fight, how about actually making the fight unwinnible instead of pretending they didn't win when they did.

[@zjoee]

I know I'm five months too late, but they do this very well in Skies of Arcadia Legends. This badass dude gives you the option to surrender, which one of your party members strongly encourages saying you can't beat him. If you choose to fight him, he completely wrecks you in a couple of turns and captures you anyway haha.

[@filboyt657]

@@zjoee Late here too, PS1 tales of destiny. Beat leon before he joins your party for a secret ending. he can wreck your team fast though

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Agreed, it's stupid for me to beat someone in a game and then die in a cut scene

[@alrightalright4585]

Sometimes devs _do_ reward you for winning an "unwinnable" fight though, like the first boss in Dark Souls.

[@weneedaladder8384]

@@alrightalright4585 or the first boss in demon's souls! A great example of "okay yeah, you beat the boss, but you were supposed to die" that doesn't make the player feel like they were cheated.

[@ChristyTina22]

Leon in Kingdom Hearts I. I spent literal days leveling up on 1 xp heartless on Destiny Island just to beat him in Traverse Town. And what happens? Sora passes out at the end and Yuffie says Leon went easy on me. Pfft.

[@SuperMagicUnderwear]

At least he gives you something for that. I think it's a Megalixer?

[@willieoelkers5568]

@@SuperMagicUnderwear Just an elixir, but yeah, at least you get rewarded for it.

[@TheDjbz]

The cutscene is slightly different too. If you lose he’s all fine, while if you win he’s worn out and Yuffie mocks him a bit for struggling to beat a child

[@ChristyTina22]

@@TheDjbz Was it Yuffie? Oops. Been a long time since I played.

[@LtBasil]

@@ChristyTina22 It was Yuffie. Tifa doesn't show up until KH2.

[@Kabouka]

Reminds me of The Witcher 2's Letho! You fight a tough as heck boss battle at the end of the first chapter, only for the game to then - if you managed to survive this long and lower his HP, that is - put on a cutscene where Geralt gets beaten, falls unconscious and Letho escapes again. Even if you, the player, were beating him the whole time. Really frustrating fight right there

[@nathangumpert8727]

Yo did you just talk smack about Joker? Is he allowed to do that?

[@Manu-op3ec]

No one is allowed to do that.

[@deranathonarkantos6712]

Tell me about it, the ableist bigot!

[@N7thegreatspy]

No he is not

[@ingydegmar2060]

His own jokes are worse tbh.

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Jokers annoying...he should have been toned down

[@maxblake5564]

Gaunter O’Dimm from the Witcher 3 dlc, Hearts of Stone. True, the boss “battle” is essentially you running around a hellish nightmare scape trying to solve a riddle to save your soul, but once you solve the riddle and defeat O’Dimm, he reveals that he cannot die, and that he is leaving Geralt’s world but will return sometime in the future.

[@Ceece20]

Basically every fighting game ever, because we have 7 more characters to go through, and you’ve already beaten big baddie #4.

[@nibbleymidget3016]

Bowser could have been literally every entry

[@IamaPERSON]

So could Eggman.

[@Faded.Visuals]

So could your mom 😂 jk

[@cthulhufhtagn2483]

Meanwhile, in another castle...

[@TheJ.JonahJameson]

Hell yeah

[@ringlhach]

Or Dr Wiley/Sigma. Kinda surprised that only a fighting game version made this list.

[@SgtSupaman]

The worst part are the ones that require you win the fight before showing you that you canonically lose. Especially if it was a difficult fight that you might actually lose multiple times before finally persevering to see that it was all for nothing.

[@joenesvick7043]

Kai Leng is a total coward, always running. If Thane dies during the suicide mission he kills Kirrahe, hold the line. If Kirrahe died on Virmire and Thane died on the suicide mission, well something different happens. I see the Salarian councilor in this video is not the one from Mass Effect 1, somebody likes renegading lol 🤣

[@jadedj5385]

Honestly, I would have been more devastated by losing Captain Kirrahe than Thane. But emailing me crosses the line.

[@GiftedContractor]

I'm super curious what happens if both Than and Kirrahe have died now... but not curious enough to actually kill Thane and Kirrahe >.>

[@taln0reich]

@@GiftedContractor the councillor dies.

[@GiftedContractor]

@@taln0reich oh. Good, they were a shitty person anyway

[@Veladus]

I love the "if X is gone" stuff in ME3. Did you know you can convince Mordin not to fix the sabotaged cure? Wrex and Eve both have to be dead, so it's not worth it, but it's possible. He'll still WANT to cure it, but he'll concede that now (with Wreav in sole control of an autocracy) is not the time to do it. Mordin will fake his death, go into hiding, and work on the Crucible. If Mordin's dead too, his replacement can't be persuaded though and will try to cure it even with Wreav in sole control. It's also kind of possible to get Thane through the game. If he's alive but you ignore his email and never meet him on the Citadel, then he won't show up for that Kai Lame sequence. I mean, he's still going to die of space lung cancer, but he doesn't actually die in the game. Legion is actually the only squadmate through all three games that absolutely 100% must die.

[@newflesh666]

This is probably my least favorite trope in video games because it really invalidates your actions as a player.

[@captainsix5640]

Would you rather have an unwinnable fight or a cutscene for t he entire fight

[@woodpecker8116]

@@captainsix5640 its not impossible to make a good rewarding Boss fight without these two options you know?

[@captainsix5640]

@@woodpecker8116 you (for the most part) are always playing through a story completely crafted by a hand full of people to be cinematic and provide tension, drama, and weight. The problem is that most gamers have been programmed to believe they should win all fights handily and not lose due to the mass majority of games having zero mechanics outside of hp, power meter/mag size/mana bar, and damage. So if you need to face someone and lose for the story people will riot if they actually have to lose so it becomes a choice of unbeatable boss in gameplay where people will complain about lack of control and having the game taken away from them or, loss in the cutscene after the fight which just leads to even more complaining. For game developers who have very small time frames to make these games it can be incredibly hard to create a good reason outside of these two options for you to lose a fight.

[@captainsix5640]

Oh hey, just remember another mechanic. Dodge roll because everyone wants to be darks souls but the game they make is easier than demon's souls

[@filipeamaral216]

"The time has come, and so have I." - The exact moment I saw Mike.

[@ravenarcher6797]

Eww

[@MrAioto]

I don't believe there is a DMC entry on this video.

[@SolitasRuisu]

A great example of this is Vergil, mainly in DMC5, where once you beat him as Dante he'll just slash you away with a teleport even BEFORE a cutscene

[@gravajaumbros]

I was always annoyed in Kingdom Hearts when you fight Squall (Leon) for the first time. Not only would I win, but I win handily, and the cutscene doesn't even have him break out a supermove to defeat me in one hit. Instead, regardless of what my health was at, Sora just passes out!

[@thesunisup_]

“Nightwolf sucks!” BRUH...

[@deathbykonami5487]

True, he's so generic and bland, he makes Connor from Assassin's Creed III look more interesting

[@mathieushifera9555]

@@deathbykonami5487 See there's shade, but what you just did there was straight savage

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@mathieushifera9555 how so? It's true

[@mathieushifera9555]

@@deathbykonami5487 yes, but Connor??? The shade!

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@mathieushifera9555 at least Connor had character, nightwolf is every native American stereotype rolled into one

[@madness1931]

Literally any villain from Trails of Cold Steel 2, or if you want, mention the entire series, this happens all too often.

[@deathbykonami5487]

Crow, Vita, McBurn, Duvalie, even freaking Bleublanc of all people...you'd expect him to go down easy you don't become No. X enforcer by being a pushover

[@HeyitsRegan11]

“Name yourself after an animal and you’re going to get eaten” -Cries in 2020

[@ingvarsuigin609]

Cries in 2021 too.

[@LordBloodraven]

12:18 "JESSIE!!! Aww, man. Zaeed's gonna be pissed."

[@AgentofChaos315]

I'm dissapointed you didn't find a way to mention how Kai Leng stole Anderson's cereal in a tie-in novel.

[@lawrencetalbot8346]

Kai Leng looks like the Chinese knock of of Night Wing.

[@adamkirby1]

Shoutout to literally every boss of even fleeting importance in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I never beat the game, but by the time I stopped my count was at 14.

[@moose-mancer]

Amen to that.

[@tambaloneusderpaloneus6626]

you beat me by an entire day, yes after a while every time I beat anyone in a battle I'd think "welp here we go, show me why I lost this battle actually".

[@Vgy1592]

I feel like *every* Tales of game has one of these moments, too. As far as boss fights you can win, but the cutscene after shows you losing, at least. In most cases, though, the game at least rewards you a little extra for winning. Though, there was *one* fight in Tales of the Abyss where, after winning, I got 0 xp, 0 gald, and negative grade. It was kind of embarrassing, after such a hard fight. I also remember a fight in an entirely different game, where I had a defense skill I'd used not long before activate on the attack that was supposed to defeat me to trigger the next cutscene, causing it to miss and let me finish the battle a win. It was kind of hilarious, all things considered, since that one was just a glitch. Obviously, there wasn't any sort of different cutscene.

[@PatM1893]

Doopliss from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door also comes into my mind. You think, the battle is easily done, before you realize, what really happened.

[@jack_mercier1]

The first fight between Geralt and Letho in The Witcher 2 springs to mind. You can be whupping his butt and the cutscene makes him the victor.

[@Uomostrano]

Two words: liquid snake (mgs1) "Fight me as I drive this giant robot!" Takes several stinger rockets in the face. He's fine. "Fight me on the top of this giant robot!" Takes several punches straight in the face and falls a hundred feet from the ground. He's fine. "Fight me as I chase you on a jeep in this ridiculous long tunnel!" Takes several rounds of machine gun in the face, crushes with his jeep. Dies of heart attack.

[@kadosho02]

Don't forget 'Fox...." "Die"

[@joeschmo3844]

You forgot “fight me in this attack helicopter!” Crashes, burns, lives to do everything else you said.

[@MrDalisclock]

Apparently he wore himself out

[@Uomostrano]

@@joeschmo3844 You're totally correct.

[@TheBanishedWind]

Forgot the first round, which neither means anything, and the transition to the second phase literally isn't done by you.

[@meganschmidt5473]

Strobing light warning at 3:09 and 3:30

[@user-wv8lb8yf8v]

There actually is a cool setup for some game’s conflict in there. The villain has a power to force you into cutscene, and you spend the game acquiring power to skip cutscenes. It can work with a jokey meta-narrative about games, or in a some sort of high-fantasy key where it’s reframed as an ability to “control fate” or something.

[@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt]

Whoa dude list videos during the Christmas challenges?! Y'all work too hard Holidays are for holiday dudes

[@vineylfc]

Never! Holidays are for content! Only 3 videos between Oxbox & Oxtra today? Bunch of slackers!

[@About9000]

here's one for the comment edition. Squal/Leon in Kingdom Hearts, winning isn't mandatory but if you do win Sora gets exhausted and passes out anyway.

[@kadosho02]

Nomura has a weird way of making battles rewarding. Because you still miss somehow? I feel like we missed a cutscene related to Sora being weak? KH3 same feels

[@LordBaktor]

That was in a video about "boss fights you are not supposed to win but you can if you are good" or something like that.

[@VergilAngelus]

The worst part of the Kai Leng encounter is in the original write-up he killed both of the party members you brought with you to the temple. It was so badly received that their play testers refused to play further until it was changed. So you lost the gun instead of two party members, which would probably be your favorite members since you didn't see it coming.

[@ssblue8832]

Metal Gear Solid 2. You're wrecking the Metal Gear Rays, and no matter how easily you were doing this, suddenly Raiden's giving up, and only Olga and the worm cluster keep you from dying right there. The next time you have control, you're handcuffed.

[@timedragon5492]

Thanks for taking my comment in! But you missed the first Vergil fight in DMC3

[@TheTCD]

Pariah - OG Xbox: I may be misremembering this, but I swear you “defeat” the final boss, only for it to not die, then it convinces the player character to commit suicide in the final cutscene. My jaw was left hanging. Firstly because it was a ballsy and really bleak ending. Secondly because it felt like everything was for nothing.

[@kadosho02]

I remember that title. And yes, yes it was brutal 😞

[@RoboSparkle]

Eggman and Chaos, specifically from Sonic Adventure. Not only does Choas peace out in cutscenes every time you kick his translucent blue arse, only to return later having nommed more chaos emeralds, one of these instances happens AFTER you have just beaten Eggman in a boss battle. As his machine lies in ruins, a cutscene happens and not only is he fine, he steals a Chaos Emerald from you, and guess whose ears are burning and just shows up to claim it? Erm... does Chaos have ears?

[@xcvb1760]

Around this time every year Jane gets sick and loses her voice. Get well soon.

[@KieranStowell]

Basically 95% of the bosses in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 fail to die affter you actually beat then.

[@Mr.Bones_]

I had the same idea mate

[@declinedyt5565]

And one

[@liamtreat5194]

You could fill out this whole list, and another one with just Xenoblade Chronicles 2

[@MikeKilo1969]

The reason Kai Lang is so annoying is that he’s controlled by cutscenes and thus beyond your ability to defeat. Very immersion breaking, not unlike the ridiculous final chapter.

[@aquelegabriel]

Not only that. He's also a weak boss outside of cutscenes. So it's even more frustrating to watch Sheppard lose to him like a chump.

[@MikeKilo1969]

@@aquelegabriel absolutely true! I regularly and easily crippled him only for him to be revived by the game. Very frustrating and immersion breaking.

[@HumanoidCableDreads]

Jane describing Ultron as "snarky" hurt my soul.

[@jellojackalopes]

When I was a kid the one that annoyed me the most was that Grovyle boss battle in Mystery Dungeon.

[@MetabolicSpore0]

I love how inconsistent all of the characters in mortal kombat are. At any given time a simple human like Johnny cage or proven weakling like Baraka could beat a, "God", like raiden or badass like Shao Khan. 😄

[@zincwing4475]

Joker from mass effect was just trying to console you. Regardless of the lack of tact, I appreciated the thought.

[@Doubleranged1]

The more satisfaction when you finally get to impale Kai Leng on your omniblade though.

[@BigMoney_L]

There is the Guardian in The Evil Within 2 you could just run away from it or actually kill it then boss "beaten" until she comes back a little later and severs you in half

[@zayaanatif4474]

Arguments against your mom should be number one on this list, because even if you win, you’re not right. Love you Mom!

[@mewmew34]

Super easy first fight against Edea: Just summon Carbuncle so he casts reflect. She'll waste her turns casting Dispel on everyone. Then just resummon Carbuncle. She'll barely ever manage to get in a hit and you can keep casting other GFs and simply beating her down until she's "defeated". It doesn't work on any other fights with her, but it makes that first one super simple to get through.

[@brandynicole7410]

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Ignis, Good Ending. In this alternate ending, you have to defeat Ardyn. I thought it would be pretty simple considering I had already done it before playing as Noctis, but not only does Ardyn not want to go down easy, he also enjoys teleporting all over the place while laughing maniacally. All the while you are on a time limit of four minutes, otherwise, you get to enjoy the Bad Ending as Ardyn monologues his entire plan right before you die. And if you do manage to defeat him, he's still not dead because he's immortal! My struggle was in vain!

[@monreeee_KD23]

To whoever Reads this Merry Christmas and Happy New year and thank you to everone else at OutsideXbox for making a video around the holidays

[@Jabogers]

Genichirou should be on this list. Not only does he activate his cutscene superpowers at the beginning of the game in that even if you drain *both* health bars, he still cheats and cuts off your arm, he also runs away like a coward the second time, and the third time kills himself before you get the chance for payback!

[@ApetureTestSubject]

How about Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows? Playing as Plague Knight, you go to the Explodatorium and fight the main character of the main game, Shovel Knight. You can explode him within an inch of his life and steal his essence, but then he just gets up while you're celebrating and thwacks you with a shovel . Hero characters get all the breaks.

[@tom17663]

I was expecting the penultimate Vergil bossfight in Devil May Cry 5. When you beat him, there's just a scripted counterattack that leads into the cutscene, which slowly leads into the final bossfight

[@ethanfeaster8228]

Wait what about the monkey in sekiro where when you cut his head off he just grabs it a fights you while carrying it

[@kenny240]

What about Genichiro Ashina from Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. You take his health bar down twice, only to hit phase 2. Then when you beat that, he just hops off the roof you’re fighting on to show up yet again later in the game.

[@sc2_Nightmare]

Ah. That Kai Leng boss fight really messed me up... I flew to the Citadel, went to the shooting gallery and shot empty every gun I had. Which, as a soldier, were *_all of them._*

[@b4nd1t9]

Spoiler alert for star wars Jedi fallen order: What about the second sister from Jedi fallen order, you literally fight her four times, lose three of those times and on the last one just as it seems like you've made a new companion that will help you on your journey Darth Vader comes out of literal nowhere to pretty much just say "nah, you thought though didn't you" and then kills her in one hit

[@benjamin1359870]

Yeah but they made the fight unwinnable, you never own darth vader he own you until you decide to flee.

[@Stryfe52]

You win the 3rd time but she takes the holocron

[@Chrisismink]

This video probably should come with a light sensitivity warning.

[@MatiiGalarza]

Great list but what about Baldur from God of War, the endless "I feel nothing" xD

[@FrostyRose]

I really hate the games where you get a game over in the boss fight and are forced to win but then at the end you get a lovely cutscene with you getting your ass kicked

[@StephanoOsorio]

I have a suggestion for a video: "video games mechanics that makes no sense, but without them the game is less fun" (feel free to rearrange that as you may). I thought about this while playing Deep Rock Galactic. There's a mechanic where you can collect different minerals and each of them can only be collected a certain total amount. For example: even though you can collect like 60 units of 5 different materials, you can't make that 300 units of the same one.

[@Rodrigo-ei4ht]

A true professional. Respect xD

[@Ronin_735]

Please tell me Genichiro Ashina (from the beginning/tutorial of Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice) is on this list.

[@keyblademasterkatsu7839]

I think he is not here cuz thats an optional win. You dont have to actually beat him to move forward in the game

[@Jabogers]

@@keyblademasterkatsu7839 I mean, if we're talking optional wins then Edea, Napstablook, and Ultron Sigma wouldn't be on this list. You don't have to beat all three of them in combat, either.

[@azuredragoon2054]

I think the key here is that victory/defeat didn't change the outcome at all (including in the cutscene itself) or the boss is protected because of plot armor (like Kai Leng) even though you're clearly wrecking their turds. Genichiro features two cutscenes with the same result. So that would be why he doesn't fit on this list. Besides, he was featured in "boss fights you're not supposed to win, but you can anyway" list.

[@Schmidtactular]

I got bad news for you

[@Zezlemetkun]

Next time...

[@krimzonknight]

Andy: turns up at the end of video with a self-proclaimed "unskippable cutscene" Me: "Oh-Ho? You challenge me? We'll see about that" Proceeds to close browser tab after liking the video, but crucially before the "unskippable cutscene" ends.

[@LFwitch_hunter]

ooh ooh ooh to add to this kind of idea boss battles that were incredibly hyped up, but then left to a cutscene or qte

[@Josh55715]

Soul of Cinder from dark souls 3! Those 3 notes....

[@artisticweeb6948]

What about eve from Neir Automata when you nearly killed eve and he drew power from the network

[@mog-myownbestfriend]

Jane's delivery on calling Cyborg Superman a dick was flawless and I think we need that as a soundclip.

[@Kahadi]

The worst are where you have to win the fight to proceed, only for the cutscene to say you lost. Like half of the fights in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are like that. First one I remember is pretty well still tutorial area, chapter 1 I believe. Rex, Pyra, Nia, Dromarch, and Gramps make it to Gormott, need to hide. You end up cornered by the police. Lose and you respawn, win and it shows you barely holding your own until Brighid, the powerful Blade of Special Inquisitor Morag, appears to help them. Lose and, again, you respawn and start from the beginning of the fight. Win, and it goes to another cutscene where Brighid is winning, Nia and Dromarch get captured, and Rex and Pyra barely escape by breaking a water pipe and getting help from the newly met Tora. Like, if you're going to have the cutscene show me losing anyway, why not just let me progress when I lose?