7 Convenient Excuses for How You're Definitely Not a Murderer

Being a videogame hero is way harder than being a villain, because heroes have a code against killing, or some such nonsense. Thankfully, some videogames take the hard work out of our hands by coming up with highly convenient excuses for why the stuff we’re doing that definitely looks like first degree murder, is actually non-lethal, so we can go about our day with a clear conscience. Here are seven of our favourites. Enjoy, and subscribe for more videos like this from Outside Xbox!
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[@bethenhiemer]

My Batman theory is that double-barrel shotgun wielding Alfred doesn't want Bruce to feel guilty, so he programs the equipment to say they're all still alive.

[@thatonekpopmultistan6486]

I approve of that

[@theenigma2861]

Anyone _he_ harms specifically

[@rogue3095]

That makes more sense than it should, it really does

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Best possible illegitimate dad ever!

[@hussein_bdn]

Really love that theory. The only flaw in it is that the world's greatest detective would definitely catch on since you can't really hide hundreds of deaths, even in Gotham City.

[@ryanernst2071]

Batman: “if you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same.” The punisher: “not if I kill more than one.”

[@ryanernst2071]

@Jon Valler killing someone like the joker versus sparing a lowly henchmen? That’s a pretty clear line

[@amodelmannequin]

@@ryanernst2071 tell that to "Injustice" Superman lol

[@Forestxavier20]

Jason: "But if I kill 100 killers, then the number goes down by like 99, right?"

[@marhawkman303]

@Jon Valler So what I'm getting here is that Batman is dangerously insane and probably should be kept locked away where he can't hurt someone.

[@marhawkman303]

@Jon Valler yeah I agree with that. :D

[@kirielvids]

the electricly charged batmobile is the silliest thing ever. Especially when you're in car mode and hit thugs. "It's fine! The car shocks them so they don't die!" as if that negates the effects of plowing into someone at 60+ mph.

[@EGRJ]

And, y'know, visibly flinging them through the air.

[@GodOfOrphans]

I think the implication is supposed to be that the shock actually hits them and pushes them away before the the Batmobile actually collides with them, I think the hitbox for the shock is slightly bigger than the Batmobile probably for that reason. Still pretty out there and as shown you can blow things up in front of them and run their bodies over and that still supposedly doesn't kill them, not to mention the explosive gell and literally causing ceilings and walls to fall on people that's been a thing since Asylum.

[@theneonseal6792]

@@GodOfOrphans But they're still subject to the forces of inertia (and what ever they hit after the Batmobile launches them). Getting 'pushed away' at those speeds in itself would kill a person. I love Arkham Knight, but the electric field contrivence is plain stupid.

[@GodOfOrphans]

@@theneonseal6792 I agree it's stupid I'm just trying to provide extra context that's all. I even said it was still pretty "out there" as in ludicrous that they survive it.

[@somethingisverywrong]

"Technically it's the impact with the GROUND that killed those guys, not the impact with my car. BAT-LOOPHOLE!"

[@EGGY3994]

The later Assassin’s Creed’s: your not killing anyone, your just watching somebody’s ancestor kill someone. It’s history, there’s nothing you can do about it.

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

Which contradicts the earlier games where the specific reason you're doing it is to gain experience in killing people so that you become used to it in the present.

[@LanceKairan]

@@TakumiJoyconBoyz I mean, Desmond's basically just going through the motions of it while Ezio does the actual killing. At least until AC3 where you actually get into combat as Desmond.

[@AdrianColley]

Ah yes, the "moral choices" of the later AC franchise. Except: it's replaying a specific memory, so any choice is an illusion and whatever the player chooses is the in-universe unalterable reality.

[@Mulbert]

There's a cool bit in The Legacy of The First Blade Odyssey DLC where you're confronted with your mass murdering ways, RIP hundreds of fortress guards

[@supershinigami1]

@@TakumiJoyconBoyzthat's just wrong what are you talking about?

[@PerovNigma]

Fun fact regarding Spider-Man's strength: At one point in the comics, a dying Doc Ock switched minds with Peter Parker. Upon gaining the body and powers of Spider-Man, Doc Ock was confronted by Scorpion, one of Spider-Man's villains. Doc Ock punched Scorpion in the face, but didn't realise how powerful he now was, and knocked off Scorpion's lower jaw. Doc Ock then realised that Spider-Man had been pulling his punches all along, and could have easily killed Doc Ock and all his other enemies with just a few blows.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Superior Spider-Man. Great story.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Also at one point spiderman literally punches through kingpins chest and out of the other side

[@punkrocker1377]

And Kane literally uses the wall crawling abilities to rip peoples faces off of their skulls

[@HovektheArtist]

Dont forget spiderman uppercutting the hulk so hard he is sent into orbit, literally

[@corvoraijin5126]

@@HovektheArtist He had Captain Universe's powers at this time so that helped.

[@tristancampbell4941]

"So you wont kill, but you're fine with traumatic brain injuries?" -Robin

[@wutthabuck8772]

Never get tired of hearing him say that 😂

[@joeschmo3844]

Always wondered why Batman didn’t just sever the Joker’s spinal column such that he would survive but become a quadriplegic. Imagine that maniacal laugh being interrupted so he could blow into a tube to move his wheelchair.

[@TheLegendaryLegacy]

@@joeschmo3844 Actually he has, the issue is that Joker pretty much just gets healed by a secret lazurus pit. In the Arkhamverse he just gets better somehow.

[@VelcroYuppie]

@@joeschmo3844 its Joker. He'd just convince someone to build him a battlemech or something.

[@joeschmo3844]

@@VelcroYuppie oh, it could never last, spinal injuries *always* heal in Gotham City anyway. But it would at least make a good argument for increasing Arkham’s security budget if you can escape without the use of your limbs.

[@weirdgamer9566]

Batman: "I didn't kill him, I just threw razor-sharp blades and broke half of his bones through brute force alone. Again, I didn't kill them!"

[@jrlaps521]

At that point it’d be better to just kill them and put them out of their misery lol

[@LadyOnikara]

"Just send them to Dr. Harleen Quinzel for therapy, they'll get over it."

[@jockeyfield1954]

@@LadyOnikara "so, harley, i wanna kill every person the batman knows, wanna join me?"

[@LadyOnikara]

@@jockeyfield1954 "I'll check my schedule and pencil you in. I have an opening next week."

[@OhNoTheFace]

Can't be a criminal if your bones are broken

[@colterbrown3679]

…and then there are LEGO games, where your enemies are literally blasted apart into chunks weather you’re just punching them or firing a rocket launcher at them. Good times. Family friendly.

[@KilosFoxo]

Lego batman 1 shows Robin getting decapitated and putting his head back on just fine so they aren't dead

[@san_holo7784]

@@KilosFoxo Just a plot armor. They're probably dead.

[@thephoenix4093]

@@san_holo7784 is everthing plot armor at this point? LEGO IS NOT A HUMAN BEING in short they can build themselfs again.

[@san_holo7784]

@@thephoenix4093 In fact being a LEGO figure is very stressful. Figures literally eat the thing they're made of, they live in the houses made out of themselves, they wear the clothes made out of themselves. So death is the best you can have being a LEGO figure.

[@thephoenix4093]

@@san_holo7784 i'm not sure what relevance does that have but they're basically immortal also they like eating lego food batman sure enjoyed it at least.

[@joshuawood9224]

in the comics peter does pull his punches, to the point that during a storyline where doc oc was in control of spidermans body he accidentally punched scorpions lower jaw off, because of how much stronger he was. Otto literally realises that Spiderman was consciously choosing not to kill everyone he faught.

[@filmandfirearms]

They did say that he's likely pulling his punches, but gravity is gravity

[@lock376]

ironically scorpion is supposed to be stronger but dumber

[@JaelinBezel]

Rumor has it that with great power there must also come great responsibility.

[@djcortex8635]

Fought

[@phantom_xrd]

Wasn't there also a run where spidey let loose and Osborn realized how fucked he was?

[@livingcorpse5664]

Funny thing about Superman, he actually both dreads and looks forward to fighting someone who is closer to his power level than a normal person. Dreads it cause there's gonna be collateral damage if he can't lure them out of a populated area, looks forward to it because he doesn't have to hold back his punches and worry about killing them.

[@crocbattle07]

I'm watching the 90's Superman Animated series now and I can definitely see that Superman thinking that way.

[@livingcorpse5664]

@@crocbattle07 Batman too, when he fights a super powered being, he can hit them as hard as he wants, heck he needs to if he wants to knock them out or exhaust them cause he's in no danger of killing them with punches and kicks, he's a normal human.

[@Gothic_Analogue]

Do you mean One-Punch Man? /s

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

@@crocbattle07 he does actually; he even has an entire speech about it that he gives to Darkseid in JLU: "That man won't quit as long as he can still draw a breath. None of my teammates will. Me? I've got a different problem. I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die. But you can take it, can't you, big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful I really am."

[@KandiKid87]

Then along came Doomsday, and ol' Supe was like "Oh no, I have erred."

[@gruggerduggerhoose]

“Almost as much as fortnite loves not crediting the creators of dances it copies” Damn Andy, need a torch in all that shade you casting lad? Lol

[@ethanpurcell7007]

An absolute savage burn that also definitely needed to be said.

[@guuspot923]

I suspect that, unlike Corazón, Andy's got Darkvision.

[@z3rotollranc3]

@@guuspot923 inspiration!

[@KandiKid87]

I couldn't breath after that, my goodness! XD

[@marhawkman303]

Some of them would be REALLY hard to credit... as it's not historically recorded.

[@ducksruleflorida4882]

The victims Batman beats/hangs into unconsciousness have lower than average heartbeats. This can be due to bradycardia (lower than average heartbeat) or the fact they're dying from internal injuries.

[@kinyt3887]

I always figured 30 BPM was unhealthy for someone, even if they were just beaten unconscious.

[@jjtomecek1623]

@@kinyt3887 they're probably definitely dying, but a low heart rate isn't always a bad thing. In fact, quite the opposite: most athletes have low heart rates because their heart is more efficient at pumping blood. Usain Bolt's actually has a resting heart rate of 33 BPM. At the other end, resting heart rates above 70 and definitely 80 BPM are considered unhealthy. Again though, while I'm certain the goons are somewhat physically fit, i highly doubt they're potential Olympians levels of fit. So i still agree they're probably dying.

[@chee.rah.monurB]

ALSO!Being hanged upsidedown will be really badd for your brain,since all the blood is pushed into your head due to gravity

[@kingkidtmgaming]

@@jjtomecek1623 Yes but this is sudden

[@nerd_nato564]

@@chee.rah.monurB That's not even the worst part, that would be the whole "dropped from a few meters by a non-elastic rope tied to your ankles" thing, which would absolutely shatter a lot of bones.

[@frodobaggins7710]

Don't forget, Kiryu from Yakuza has never killed anyone. Not even when he rams a knife into them, shoots them with a gun or slams them onto their own head

[@gothmissstress]

Also remember that moment when Saejima "killed" those people? ;) Goddamn this game. I love it.

[@xxgaelelcubanoxx2672]

The helicopter in yakuza 6

[@johnoneil9188]

All those guys in 0 in the exploding cars and helicopters. Totally fine.

[@bltanti]

One of the coolest moments in Yakuza 7 is a fight against Kiryu. Kiryu has canonically never fought or even (physically) harmed a woman, so he will ignore both female characters in this fight.

[@cameronmorgan2347]

@@bltanti there was that one time he slapped Haruka in the first game

[@joeschmo3844]

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance has a codec conversation in which it is explained that it’s unusual that the cyborgs you defeat are exploding, as they should just be shutting down to allow the human brains inside them to be recovered and put into a new body. It’s explained that they are probably set to self destruct if unable to defend themselves to prevent capture, so they are dying, but it’s not because of you.

[@bustergundo516]

Good to know.

[@WolfyFancyLads]

Yeah, but who cares when you're hunting for that sweet SPINE GOO™! Plus, pretty sure I sliced a lot of heads, so there wasn't a brain to preserve. :p

[@bustergundo516]

@@WolfyFancyLads oof. I ended up getting the Samurai rank my first time.

[@freezingwolf]

But what about when your dicing cops like onions

[@unculturedswine5583]

@@freezingwolf and just raidens general hard on for killing people

[@tetsuv]

I always liked that in Arkham Origins you leave thugs knocked out in a blizzard with a broken limb, they aren't surviving the night

[@amarmurtezani69]

The GCPD picks them up

[@LuckyMacchiato]

Can we talk about the epic Austin Powers-style cover-up that happens with the T-800? That was actually amazing.

[@kamenanew9867]

That Was amazing, ngl, well spotted

[@Jaded_Jinx]

"Video game heroes can't kill" says this video Raiden, on his 79th spine of his enemies to absorb their electrolytes: "Wait, you can do that?"

[@danialyousaf6456]

Tbf he is a child soldier, trained to kill since he was a kid.

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

I enjoy that instead of the standard bit where a bad guy goes all YOU REALLY ARE A KILLER LIKE ME and the hero screams in defiance, instead of failing to convince him he's a killer they succeed far more than they could have possibly hoped for, accidentally make him come to terms with his murderous past and ways, then all get slaughtered because of it.

[@ddjsoyenby]

raiden is cool.

[@DFloyd84]

Cyborg enemies can be taken out non-lethally in MGRR. You essentially have to lop off their limbs and leave them as wiggling torsos. They can then be recovered from the battle site and get new limbs installed. The only cyborgs you have to kill are the Winds of Destruction.

[@coyoteone6197]

+*Call of Duty has left the chat*+

[@wutthabuck8772]

The best is the creator of the Yakuza franchise saying Kiryu doesn't kill or hurt women BUT my playthrough using guns, grenades, katanas etc says otherwise 😂

[@StraightOuttaJarhois]

Hey, Kiryu never killed anyone. He just stabbed a knife into their gut, and then kneed the handle end of the knife to drive it in deeper.

[@Joe90h]

That time in the first game where he shot a helicopter out of the sky in a burning heap? Everyone walked away from that fine. Also the countless people he shot off of moving motorcycles earlier that same day.

[@gothmissstress]

Not only Kiryu. But Majima, Saejima.....No, the real murderers in this game series all die. But YOU, yes, YOU, the one who smashes the person into the ground the same way Shazam did in this vid, you're not a killer, of course ;))))

[@patrickbohn5235]

@@gothmissstress Ah yes, the people Majima brains with a baseball bat swung at full force are definitely just unconcious

[@gothmissstress]

@@patrickbohn5235 and everyone forgets about Saejima, the guy who beat Yamaoroshi, the giant bear, which is "2x size of normal bear". And that guy can lift motorcycles like it's nothing - this one thing which Kiryu can ONLY do in red heat mode. Or that time when he stopped car with his bare hands. Saejima is a freaking monster (who I think is MUCH stronger than Kiryu). And yet he never killed anyone somehow. Pfffft

[@aspiringsandspeilmechanic9218]

For the batman thing, to be fair being dead means you are also unconscious, since they are literally not consious.

[@quincebielka8843]

Is beats per minute the number of times you hit them in the last minute

[@ZarniwoopIII]

@@quincebielka8843 Brilliant!

[@rosestar1324]

No, cuz being dead means you're not breathing/alive. You are alive when you're unconscious.

[@ZarniwoopIII]

@@rosestar1324 The dictionary definition of unconscious is simply, "not conscious." So being dead is a state of unconsciousness. You don't have to be alive.

[@rosestar1324]

@@ZarniwoopIII literally if you Google the definition of unconscious, it says "not conscious". You know danm well if they meant similar things they would be synonymous with each other but they are not.

[@petermoore3042]

The automatic webbing device in Spiderman was honestly a great idea that stayed true to the character

[@mar_speedman]

6:34 This is actually completely in character for Batman. Remember kids! Batman never kills, but he's fine with breaking every bone in your body and/or traumatizing you for the rest of your life. So be good!

[@uncannymeerkat]

Only if he avoids Zack Snyder's influence...

[@braydenbanks4228]

Dude, the riddler contact interrogations from Arkham City. They're f***in brutal

[@Yugi3344]

@@braydenbanks4228 I always loved the interrogation with the batmobile in Arkham Knight.

[@braydenbanks4228]

@@Yugi3344 Yeah it probably gets a lot more brutal in Arkham Knight. Arkham City just has Batman threatening them without the batmobile, scaring them shitless, then "knocking them out" in the most brutal ways

[@yokgor4675]

@@uncannymeerkat and Tim Burton’s

[@perlundgren7797]

10:28 Non-murder aside, making him land in the arena again from that distance is pretty impressive.

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

He's super. Man!

[@braydenbanks4228]

Meh. Not the most out there thing Kal-El has ever done. Remember the time that he reversed time by reversing the rotation of the Earth? The fact that he managed to so thoroughly befuddle and bamboozle physics it's still impressive to me

[@Nzosaba_Matenge]

@@braydenbanks4228 that was just the movies, yet it's not the weirdest thing he's done

[@braydenbanks4228]

@@Nzosaba_Matenge I am aware, that was kinda the joke, but thank you for informing me that he's done weirder shit

[@Trinket_Master]

I godamn love how Dizzy causes a thermonuclear explosion probably killing thousands of fauna, miles of forest or even an entire village/city depending on the area, scaring the land for most likely hundreds of years and making it uninhabitable by any life till its healed. But yet she's the one being asked is she okay.

[@michaelsimao495]

Looks like a waste land though like all of the fight arenas of a dragon ball fight episode

[@yannym4605]

Every time there's a fight in Dragon Ball, I keep thinking of all the poor little burrowing creatures that die believing they were safe in their burrows every time a ki blast hits the ground.

[@Trinket_Master]

@@yannym4605 don't even lmao. At more than one point Goku or Vegeta have leveled planets, I mean piccolo destroyed the moon early on in Z as if it wouldn't have caused world wide floods and absolutely decimated millions of lives. They're so badass they're above that mortal life shit

[@marhawkman303]

@@Trinket_Master you left out how millions of tons of moon rocks would fall to Earth's surface. Or maybe Piccolo blew it into pieces too small for that to be a problem?

[@Trinket_Master]

@@marhawkman303 from the looks of it he completely obliterated it so maybe that wouldn't be an issue? But then again it's an animation so it could have had chunks left and the artist just didn't waste time adding them into the shot cos it would be so time consuming

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

So many games and movies ruin that part of Batman's character in my opinion. They also don't go with how Batman literally refuses to call the villains by their aliases because he feels that in doing so he'll just be further fuelling their psychosis and how he literally wants to help the villains he comes up against and always tries to see the good in people.

[@mrjackelbox4418]

I agree 100% I don't know how you feel about the killing part but I think that that also ruins his character Batman stand for justice and like you said aims to help them when he can of course he fights because well it's kind of hard to talk to someone when they are trying to kill you not to mention in the comics it shows how Batman learned many none lethal martial arts skills so he could be as save as possible when it comes to his no killing rule I actually do plan on making a video about why it sucks when Batman kills and debunk a lot of the arguments people have

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

@@mrjackelbox4418 a lot of people think Batman is stupud for having that rule because they don't realize that he is still one of the most skilled heroes of the DC universe, even if he doesn't have any super powers. They also don't realize just why Batman has that rule in the first place. He believes that if he does something like kill the Joker, then he may not be able to stop himself from killing other criminals. There's also actually an arc in one of the comics about the Riddler wanting to do one last crime and trying not t o leave any riddles but not being able to because of the way that his mind works. When Batman is explaining this to him it causes him to realize that he really does need help and turns himself in so that he can get it. I'd actually like it if for games with Batman if they would make games that focus more on the part about him being the best detective then actual combat because I'm personally not interested in games like the Arkham series but I would love a game like this.

[@mrjackelbox4418]

@@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor I do like the Arkham games but I would truly enjoy a game like that you my friend truly understand Batman I can not tell you how long I've waited to say that to someone😂

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

@@mrjackelbox4418 the sad thing about that is that I've never even read the comics and I know about this stuff thanks to doing things like going on Reddit.

[@maelbastien2145]

@@mrjackelbox4418 in the Arkham series, he calls the villains by their real name most of the time unless he is talking about their henchmen.

[@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt]

In Hitman Patient Zero, you're not a rampaging murderer; you're taking out "acceptable targets" due to "extraordinary circumstances"

[@RokuHanmar]

It's technically still murder though. The intel says the virus can't survive in dead bodies

[@phantom_xrd]

And in the most extra ways possible too

[@keithvandorn]

The fact that Andy was able to go this whole video without mentioning YAKUZA is an admirable show of restraint.

[@theenigma2861]

What's even funnier is that you can glitch someone in Spider-Man so that when you punt them off a building the automatic web device doesn't activate on the way down.

[@marcopestana6157]

How?

[@elgordobondiola]

@@marcopestana6157 spiderman pulls out a gun if you do the Konami code

[@alm2187]

"There are seven working defenses from this position. Three of them kill. Three disable painlessly," (wonder if any martial arts experts have evaluated the panel for accuracy on that.) "the other...HURTS." -Batman, Dark Knight Returns

[@marhawkman303]

Well question 1: what's his list of "defenses"? Not much to evaluate without that.

[@lnsflare1]

I am just assuming that all of the defenders are variations on running someone over with the Batmobile.

[@Sogeking79]

I love how this turned from a normal list to an Andy fighting game list! Never change buddy, you da best!

[@marhawkman303]

It's not JUST fighting games... :P

[@GrimmShadowsII]

Thats why we all subbed

[@Sogeking79]

@@marhawkman303 That's the beauty. He starts off with Batman and Spiderman then A fighting game, then another and 2 more to wrap it up! It's the old bait and switch. I would be angry if I wasn't so amazed how he slid it past me.

[@marhawkman303]

@@Sogeking79 heheeheh, in fairness I'm pretty sure all of the characters used have been in A fighting game, he just used examples from other games with them too.

[@marhawkman303]

@@Sogeking79 1: Spiderman, the example is of the Spiderman game but Spiderman is in MvC. 2: Batman, Injustice, MK vs DC. 3: Mk vs DC, heroes in general... including Batman 4: Terminator, guest character in one of the MK games. 5: Fortnite, hmm... well it's a PvP heavy game so sorta like a fighting game. 6: Injustice.... Batman again. 7: Guilty Gear.

[@Hynotama]

Ah, yes! Batman's non-lethal head crushing via tank and his non-lethal hit and runs with a tank.

[@iout]

to be fair, he never actually crushed the guy's skull with the tank. He merely implied that he would if the guy didn't fess up.

[@Hynotama]

@@iout true, but you can't deny the recklessness of it.

[@RacingSnails64]

@@Hynotama In that scene he had just been decieved by the Arkham Knight who kidnapped Barbara Gordon, so he was PISSED and wanted answers on her asap. There's probably some kind of sensor in the Batmobile that auto-locks it from actually rolling over someone.

[@cameronmorgan2347]

The Arkham Knight would have been much more successful if he had people in his tanks

[@marhawkman303]

@@cameronmorgan2347 AHAAHAHAH... oh boy. Doesn't even need to be actual pilots. Random high school students who got paid 20$ to sit in the tank would work just fine. kinda makes it into a pseudo hostage situation.

[@Hero1922]

Chex Quest "They send the bad guys back to their home dimension" "they can attack with a spoon" "yeah that does it too, just slap some tech on it" Brilliant

[@Mekora]

As it's a Doom mod, all the weapons function exactly like the standard Doom weapons, except that they fire teleportation rays. Of course, the rocket launcher equivalent still harms you if you're caught in the blast. Although given that your enemies are made of slime, I'm not sure bullets would do much.

[@eh9618]

I wonder how dizzy actually uses those moves to do what the name implies..

[@ForestRaptor]

New vídeo!

[@jameswest6232]

I recall one Spider-Man show actually have Peter wonder why none of the goons he fights ever go down after one hit since he has the "proportional strength of a spider" and acts like they just got hit by a normal teenager.

[@ToxicBastard]

Subconscious punch pulling?

[@dariusraymond7522]

@@ToxicBastard This has been stated multiple times in comics. He does it consciously and subconsciously as well. He knows he can hurt people so he tries not to. Because he’s so use to that it’s hard for him to actually try to hurt someone

[@STARWARSISPOG]

3:54 in the Arkham gam series, you can cut the ropes on an inverted takedown by throwing batarangs at them, though the game still tells you they're uncinscious.

[@sothedain5801]

I would have to point to the Yakuza series and it's classic Rubber Bullets. And by extension Rubber knives, swords, pavement, vehicles, and explosions.

[@Septimus_ii]

Even rubber bullets are occasionally fatal

[@AdrianColley]

Those rubber explosions sound like a lot of fun at parties.

[@little-earth-star6]

Superhero 1: Dude, you just, like, killed him! Superhero 2: No I didn't. The game just said that I only knocked him unconscious. It's totally different.

[@mihan2d]

Whenever there's a game which gives you a choice between killing an enemy and knocking them out and there's even a slight chance it be important later on, I *always* double check the status bar of each KO'd enemy to see if it says "unconscious" or "deceased", because it's often very easy to accidentally do the latter and you can't even tell. That's one of the most frustrating game design critiques for me.

[@IanWatson]

See if you can find Pete Holmes/CollegeHumor's "Batman vs. The Penguin (with Patton Oswalt)". Everyone's just horrified at Batman killing a dude but he insists "no, Alfred told me they're just sleeping." It's pretty great.

[@ddjsoyenby]

"it's not murd3r if my vision says he's not d3@d" "is that a power you actually have" "............SHUT UP!"

[@edi9892]

Regarding Batman, a lot of the finishers would be lethal, especially the throat crushers, the head trauma and that inelastic bunjee...

[@knihti5912]

I remember quite a few of them just ragdolling down some ledge nearby after taking them down in Arkham Asylum. Didn't see any life saving spiderwebs there either.

[@mrjackelbox4418]

@@knihti5912 true but to be fair those weren't build in on purpose

[@JohnWilliams-cr2sz]

Ahh, the PVE story that Fortnite was originally meant to be. I have legitimately had people call me a liar and that I am just making stuff up when I have mentioned it in the past.

[@hugswanted7954]

Goddamn the pve mode looked interesting as hell, and was supposed to be made free at some point. Perhaps in another world where thr battle royal mode flopped we got to see the pve games

[@JohnWilliams-cr2sz]

@@hugswanted7954 Its still available, I think its like 14 bucks. Not free, but not horribly expensive either.

[@hugswanted7954]

Huh thought they like stopped development to more or less just abandoned it

[@JohnWilliams-cr2sz]

@@hugswanted7954 I think they put less into it when the battle royale massively took off, but there were still some seasonal events and the whatnot for awhile. I remember my brother really enjoying them.

[@titustaddhaustaddltentakel9987]

I actually forgot about that, now I remember. I actually planned getting Fortnite bc of the PVE. In the end, I didn't.

[@2865016]

"We get dirty, and the player stays clean. That's the mission." -- Video games.

[@outofideasexe]

Its funny to think how Mario has more kills than everyone on this list as he kills toads when he breaks a block

[@chastitymarks2185]

Ha! I always knew he was a psycho!

[@lucyana1599]

I was thinking this kind of thing about Nathan Drake! They don’t bother to explain it away, he’s just killed HUNDREDS of people

[@joshzuker8308]

I know it's a stupid thing to argue about lol, but in the original manual, it actually says that the toads were turned into the unbreakable blocks that give you power-ups and coins.

[@darklord884]

This has been debunked though, so no he doesn't.

[@KilosFoxo]

Don't forget goombas

[@rafaelbrisolara7599]

Considering the fact that most of those heroes live in the US it make them much more cruel them the villians since they leave his enemies with life crushing medical debt instead of killing them 😆

[@insertclevername4123]

Doctor: With this crushed spine, you'll never walk again. Joker Goon 1: That's bad. Doctor: But it will give you the chance to lead a better, more law-abiding life. Joker Goon 1: That's good! Doctor: You now owe us $5 million for the surgery and last week's hospitalization. Joker Goon 1: That's bad. Doctor: However, the Joker enrolled you in Blue Cross, so you have medical insurance. Joker Goon 1: That's good! Doctor: You now owe us $4.75 million. Joker Goon 1: That's bad. Doctor: But your hospitalization comes with a free frogurt!

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

@@insertclevername4123 Joker Goon 1: That’s good! Doctor: We’re all out of frogurt. Joker Goon 1: That’s…actually that’s good, I’m lactose intolerant anyway.

[@nightmarethrenody8232]

And a lot of these people are probably criminals because of poverty anyway…

[@fakebobbyhill296]

There have been MANY times where spidey didn’t attach the web gadget. I have literally jumped off of a building and fell the whole way with the guy to the ground.

[@skibbydibby1365]

I was trying to show my buddy the mechanic, and ended up batista bombing a guy onto the pavement from a roof top.

[@AdrianColley]

Aim for the bushes!

[@jodinsan]

@@AdrianColley I understood that reference.

[@roguishpaladin]

Here's a suggestion for the inevitable commenter edition of this list - the Pax mod for guns in Cyberpunk 2077. There's something quite weird about your bullets magically becoming non-lethal because of a mod on your gun.

[@ka-mai]

Non-lethal katanas and mantis-blades are even more impressive :D At least you can say Pax bullets are targeted towards kneecaps all the time.

[@guuspot923]

@@ka-mai Not in the places _I_ aim...

[@johnyshadow]

@@ka-mai Zoe: "Don´t the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?" Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."

[@coyoteone6197]

Came here to suggest this as well. They don't really specify how the Pax mod accomplishes this - maybe there are tiny hemostats in each bullet?

[@SimonBuchanNz]

Isn't it a mod in your brain? Not sure if that's better or worse.

[@NoMansSkyResources]

In Arkham Knight, the enemies DO cut their friends down if you wait a moment or two. That's assuming you didn't use a baterang to cut them down yourself.

[@wigi1323]

They literally have to since they have to check on their friends. Also Medics have to revive them.

[@LpDodo]

Video games taught me that killing is bad... But breaking people's bones is totally fine as long as they live through it all! :D

[@Septimus_ii]

But best not to come back later to double check that they really are still alive

[@senhowler]

It's not that Batman would be "no better than his enemies", it's that Batman would be way better than his enemies at killing people.

[@RacingSnails64]

I'm pretty sure he actually trains with firearms and lethal techniques so he knows *full well* what would kill a person, and then purposefully avoids doing that.

[@BatBunny27]

You've never seen one of Batman's inverted takedowns get cut down?! Every single time I do one, one of the other thugs immediately shoots the rope and drops them!

[@coyoteone6197]

"Hey, he was fine before you cut the rope and he fell on his head. LOOPHOLE!!"

[@Kartissa]

I drop them down myself most of the time.

[@clencheastwood1571]

hey dead is a state of "unconsciousness", so he isn't technically lying.

[@kcollier2192]

3:55 All those skeletons hanging from buildings in Gotham City? Halloween decorations- must have been left by the Scarecrow...

[@Page153]

#5 "They go live on a farm" No, they re-enter the loop and start the whole thing over again. It's explained in some of the live events.

[@ArkaneStephanie]

I played the NES version of Terminator 2. They solved the "not killing people" issue by having him just punch everyone until they stopped moving. When you do get a gun, you shoot fences and the t100. Fence murder is apparently fine.

[@AdrianColley]

The fences had it coming. They're all "yeah you can get to the other side, but you'll have to walk around because it's good for you."

[@thomasdascombe4939]

Yeah that “spiderman is one of the strongest” stuff hasn’t been true for 50+ years. He is wayyyyyy stronger than a human, average mutants etc but there are so many dozens and dozens of heroes who are stronger

[@KiomonDuck]

Superman syndrome. They are God's in a paper town.

[@marhawkman303]

@@KiomonDuck Yeah, Spiderman so rarely uses his full strength most of his enemies don't know what it is. It's true that there are many people stronger, but the list is shorter than most think.

[@calumgorman3481]

@@marhawkman303 yeah spiderman has slowly been getting a strength buff over time where at this point it wouldn't be a stretch to say he could lift over a hundred tons and hqs even lifted multiple thousand tons when holding up to bugle .

[@sinteleon]

It's a joke. :X

[@runningthemeta5570]

This whole video could just be Batman, like the stuff he does should really be killing people but they conveniently survive

[@mar_speedman]

What? All he did was drive a metal truck door into a guy's throat. No big deal... >.>

[@marhawkman303]

@@mar_speedman Also Andy already did one specific to Batman.

[@marhawkman303]

@@10tailedbijuu he's done a lot of this stuff in the comics too though.

[@sandropazdg8106]

There is a game called "The Cycle" that does something very similar to Fortnite to justify "not killing" your opponents in the very much lethal battle royale game. In the game lore, players are contractors working for 3 space companies competing for contracts down in Pandora, a Planet with very hostile wildlife and deadly radioactive storms. So the in-game lore to justify the entire lack of labor rights for the contractors when they shoot each other with rocket launchers when competing for said contracts is to cover the players upon dying with some very sciency protective foam, that also keeps you safe from the aforementioned wildlife and storms supposedly for long enough to have a rescue vehicle come to pick you up some other day once the storm recedes. Curiously no contracts are ever about rescuing these lost contractors from previous matches, which take place according to lore, every time it's possible to land on the planet because of the storm receding... So god knows when are the rescue missions taking place... if ever.

[@VictoryNibbles]

Previously, I was a bit disappointed Dizzy had been left out of a video containing a variety of cool one-shot finishers from Guilty Gear (especially because it's definitely one of the absolute coolest). Now I am happy to see not only how it was otherwise used, and the fact that it's literally the least 'this is totally not fatal, we assure you, no matter how it looks' of all of them. Well, besides maybe Batman's thing with the bats.

[@haydenmarshall2010]

Jane is most definitely not a murderer, most definitely not, definitely not

[@SeilenK]

@@josephmichealholland5381 of course not. And I invite anyone who says differently to do so directly to the not-a-killer's face.

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Acquitted, twice!

[@Michael_Lindell]

It's not a murder; those aren't crows...

[@Henry-ep6qy]

I would love to see someone do the math on the acceleration of the bodies after being punched in the head to determine force in the spider man game. I have a sneaking suspicion it would be very very lethal.

[@MrTheTotto]

Search for Game theory "spiderman will leave you broken" on KZbin. They calculated the force needed for his webs to throw someone at a wall and the uppercut. It's quite interesting

[@rosestar1324]

Game Theory made that video

[@themoldysausage]

I feel like the way lego game characters just fall apart is at least worth an honorable mention. "They're not dead, you can just put them back together"

[@Corbald]

I love how the bat-mobile has omni-wheels! Imagine the parallel parking potential!

[@Singeferno]

Any Pokemon game when you reduce their health to zero and they just "faint"

[@marhawkman303]

Wasn't it explained that the entire reason they go into pokeballs is to PREVENT them from dying?

[@Danceofmasks]

@@marhawkman303 dumbest explanation ever. Most of the pokemon that faint are wild, so that's not a thing. Also, if you "knock out" a unique pokemon, they don't just "faint" but are never seen again. You do the math.

[@marhawkman303]

@@Danceofmasks Oh, it only applies to Pokemon who HAVE Pokeballs to be sure. :p Wild Pokemon? NOPE!

[@LucianCanad]

There is a great comic strip detailing that. Lv. 100 Gyarados uses Hyper Beam against a Lv. 3 Pidgey. Nuclear explosion ensues. *Wild Pidgey FAINTED.*

[@theprofessionalfence-sitter]

In assassin's creed odyssey, you could use your super strong exploding shot ability with "non-lethal" arrows.

[@AlecDraven]

For the T-800, I keep thinking of that moment in the film where he shoots that one security guard in the legs and follows it with the comment "He'll live." directed at John Connor's panicked face. So you can shoot a guy several times without killing him, the film even says so.

[@rommdan2716]

Shooting someone in the legs WILL kill them, wtf?!

[@azalkathegunpowderdragon9439]

less lethal shotgun rounds do exist, they're usually made of rubber instead of metal.

[@morrigannibairseach1211]

Rubber bullets definitely can kill.

[@enlongjones2394]

Of course, the important word is “less”, not “not”. Rubber can still kill that way.

[@theprofessionalfence-sitter]

@@morrigannibairseach1211 Similarly, game devs (and film directors) love to forget that blanks can also totally kill people, if you hold the weapon straight to someone's head.

[@elysiumsexsmith]

Yeah...no. Rubber may be softer and less dense than lead reducing penetration but if propelled at similar velocities to a 'lethal' round , the concussive impact is enough to break bones and cause internal haemorrhaging that if left untreated can kill. Just think. If a car going from 40mph to 0mph in the fraction of second is enough to kill, just think what effect an object a fraction of the size going from 60 metres/s to 0 is going to have in the same circumstances Whether its made of lead or rubber or duck feathers doesn't matter.

[@Hellwyck]

they're actually mini bags filled with lead shot.

[@dudebladeX]

Speaking of the web-slinger, he gets a similar treatment in _Shattered Dimensions._ Local Precog and Psychic Madame Webb decides to teleport enemies falling from a great height to safety, but not civilians when they're being attacked by one of Scorpion's spawn or one of Silver Sable's mercs.

[@aaronwilcox7]

I think something we're missing with the spiderman one, is that spiders absolutely do web up and hang their enemies after defeating them, but it ain't to save them.

[@Robwithakick]

Imaging being super powerful, fighting goons on a high rise rooftop, and NOT sending any of them falling to their death? What a PITA.

[@ShadowJCreed]

How about any of the non-lethal taser weapons in any of the WatchDogs games, especially in WatchDogs Legion? I’m pretty sure getting shot at with any form of electricity is actually pretty deadly to you but when these weapons are used the enemy will be unconscious as your profiler app will tell you, no matter how many times you shoot them even when they’re already on the ground they’ll still be unconscious.

[@ralphbutcher7294]

Injustice points out how unusual Batman is when robin says “so you won’t kill be you’re fine with giving then traumatic brain injuries”

[@scrillthebeast2066]

3:30 yes they are unconious but at what cost: concussions, broken bones, beuises the size of the moon, probably damaged organs and maybe internal bleeding too

[@TheMagnumExpress]

2:43 “Because YOU’RE BATMAN!” Missed opportunity there...

[@edwardjohnsonbooth3854]

automatic webbing device does not stop you killing in spider man. i webbed somebody to the floor of a pool once

[@obsessedwithguitars3157]

How about Super 3D Noah's Ark? You use a slingshot to shoot food that puts animals "to sleep". Yet, if you hang around in the level forever, the animals never wake up. That's called death.

[@leguan278]

8:41 hold up, i tought we went over this, you can not copy a dance move, its free to use and needs no credits... this was fought over in court.

[@HelloThere-pp1wo]

4:50 alfred doing his best to make the detective vision show unconsious no matter what.

[@fatrobin72]

Assassin's creed... You play the person connected to the animus who is just reliving the memories of someone... Who did a lot of killing...

[@KnightRaymund]

Oh they use the worse than death loophole all the time. So many tortured, crippled bad guys.

[@phoenixcierebiej9763]

AkibaStrip: Undead and Undressed. You literally watch the vampires turn to dust after you strip them in the daylight, but at the end apparently everyone survives.

[@SwordsmanStudios]

In the Arkham games the invisible walls don't always work. I once punched a goon in the underground sewer city (I forget which game) and the goon ragdolled underneath the water. Detective vision assured me that he was "unconscious" and not "drowning", but I suspect Alfred may have tampered with detective vision to spare Bruce's conscience.

[@ccbempire6543]

To be fair the injustice one is based of the comic book series injustice where Superman goes evil and makes super strength pills for his soldiers and Batman gets a hold of them and mass produces them for his group.

[@katherinebarber711]

Nope, it started in the game. The comics were made as a tie-in, meant to explain more of the plot and 'explain' some of the contrivances.

[@rafaelpando7052]

Some bats carry rabies, so i guess batman is ok with potentially killing people indirectly with his brutality.

[@RokuHanmar]

If you think about it, he causes more crime as the people he beats up need to make money to pay off their hospital bills

[@0ceanicify]

6:40 Austin Powers level "Little Arnie" blocking there

[@averagegamecritic]

Boss Battles that have multiple encounters no matter what. Like Carlito in Dead Rising, you shoot or stab him in game, but he still runs off

[@cryptnick_]

Clicked LIKE before watching. Again. Thanks OutsideXBox. 😂

[@Banquet42]

Undeserved like spike!

[@thecommonman9524]

Two things. One: The thugs are all breathing in Asylum and City. Two: Do you guys *not* cut down every thug you string up?

[@se7enist]

I mean, dropping someone 20' straight into their head while they're already unconscious might not be the argument you think it is....

[@thecommonman9524]

@@se7enist I was just confused as to why someone wouldn't cut them down. Opens up that gargoyle for use again.

[@se7enist]

@@thecommonman9524 I agree. I did the same thing. But it's still no less an example of "This is only non-lethal because Batman"

[@Kunodesign]

11:12 So I've never played guilty gear... However I do play Epic 7 and there is a guilty gear crossover. In the story for this crossover Sol and Baiken explain to Dizzy that while violence is bad sometimes the only way to protect yourself and your loved ones is to fight back. Dizzy agrees that she can't always run away and that she is going to have to fight, but she will avoid it if possible and she will never kill anyone. Also she was banned in pvp for a long time because of how quickly she can knock out whole teams in Epic 7. So as Peter Parker would say "With great power..." (and yes her instant kill move is in Epic 7)

[@williamwinder3466]

10:00 I'd like to point out that Superman just hollowed out the inside of a kids skull.

[@manuelmoralez2257]

I swear kiryu better be on this list 🙃

[@outsidexbox]

haha they don’t even bother explaining that

[@MrTricksleR]

Actually, in injustice Nightwing isn’t Dick Grayson, it’s Damien Wayne. And the pill is technically is alien

[@marhawkman303]

In the comics Superman actually developed something similar that will give a Human Kryptonian powers temporarily. So it's not unprecedented. this is actually LESS powerful since it is only the strength and toughness, maybe reflexes too.

[@GodOfOrphans]

Depends on the skin actually, Regime Nightwing is Damien and Prime(?) (can't remember the name of the main universe ingame) is Dick.

[@brianschoner3350]

In the late, lamented MMO City of Heroes, defeated villains were "teleported away to jail" - regardless of whether you defeated them with your fists, or a katana, or an assault rifle, or a telekinetically-hurled forklift...

[@coyoteone6197]

I always wondered why they couldn't just teleport a few right away after their crimes, so my character could go get a smoothie or something.

[@brandenplesh9889]

One of my personal favorites is the cat-like reflexes of all the pedestrians in La Noire. The residents of Los Angeles were all able to impressively fling themselves out of the way of Detective Phelps’ police car. While vehicular manslaughter is nothing the rockstar pedigree is shy about it would have somewhat undermined Cole Phelps’ “good cop” narrative.

[@dnakatomiuk]

If only they released a DLC add on for Injustice games to have blood or a code like the good old days Guilty Gear Strive animation is just Amazing

[@TheDan337]

I hope someone makes a game in which Shazam fights Frankenstein. (No, _Andy’s_ trolling. I’m just feeding him.)

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

3:57 Batman can cut them down with Batrangs. However, he'll only aim at the cord if it's a plausibly non lethal fall.

[@CromaRLZ]

Something that passed unnoticed by Insomniac Games in the Spider-man game: Spiderman can use Man-hole covers and other hard materials to hit people. While he won't "kill" anyone by throwing them off the ledge of a high building, he definetely can cause life-treathning injuries with metal and/or concrete objects

[@finnover9781]

Saint's Row IV. All those civilians you've blown up, shot, and generally murderized throughout most of the game? No worries, they're computer simulations and not real people.

[@sgtraytango]

To be fair to them, they did witness the Earth being completely obliterated before they were stuck in the simulation.

[@andymcp4752]

Of course Batman appears in the nonlethal handwave excuse list 3 separate times LOOPHOLE!

[@Jonathon_Hennessey]

In the pokemon games the titular creatures never die in battle they only faint and have to be taken to a pokemon centre to be revived. The creator of the series actually preferred a non-lethal KO system because of the abundance of pointless violence in video games.

[@Dekaku]

I remember fighting some dudes on a low roof in Spider-man. I punched one off it to watch the web to wall thing, and instead saw him fall all the 2-3 stories down unto concrete... whoops. One other time the web decided to break the baddies fall by webbing him... you guessed it... to the ground...

[@princesszelda1997]

I mean, given that the Mortal Kombat karakters seem to recover wonderfully from every fatality no problem, heroic brutalities are just a matter of aesthetic, aren't they?