"7 False Catholic Teachings" (REBUTTED)

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The Counsel of Trent

The Counsel of Trent

Күн бұрын

In this episode, Trent debunks Protestant apologist Allen Parr's claims about 7 false teachings of the Catholic church.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Alan Parr's claims about 7 false teachings of the Church
00:35 Intercession of the Saints
06:20 Purgatory / Praying for the Dead
10:30 Transubstantiation / Eucharist
16:05 Mortal vs. Venial Sin
19:35 Assurance of Salvation
23:50 "Faith & Works"

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@TheCounselofTrent
@TheCounselofTrent 12 күн бұрын
21:49 The episode I referenced discussing Joshua Harris’s “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” will come out on Monday, so stay tuned for that!
@Justice_Levens
@Justice_Levens 12 күн бұрын
Wouldn't miss it for the world
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 12 күн бұрын
Thanks, Trent. Be sure to check out another KZbinr who is attacking the Church: IThink Biblically.
@zavaughnkirkland5892
@zavaughnkirkland5892 12 күн бұрын
What would you say to someone who claims Pope Gregory the great prescripting purgatory is analogous to Joseph Smith inventing the canon of his own golden plates?
@josh39684
@josh39684 12 күн бұрын
I know Joshua Harris. I went to his dad's church (Greg Harris) for years
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 12 күн бұрын
​@@josh39684 Just sad I actually was involved with homeschooling circles and met the family.
@vtaylor21
@vtaylor21 12 күн бұрын
What is sad about people like Allen Parr is that they don’t have a public dialogue with other Catholics to discuss these issues. Instead, they stay in their echo chamber and beat up a strawman.
@humbirdms2784
@humbirdms2784 12 күн бұрын
Unfortunately for people like Allen they make a living off stuff like this in so much there's no way they could afford to come out and admit spreading false doctrine. We all live in a echo chamber but I will never understand how people who claim to love Christ Jesus could attack thr oldest church who established the new testament, have traditions all the way down to the time of Jesus. It's madness to me
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 12 күн бұрын
@@humbirdms2784 Parr sounds so ignorant of basic Christianity. Its embarrassing.
@naelbi8870
@naelbi8870 12 күн бұрын
Of course Parr doesn't, he just shows ignorance of all the basic creed whenever talking about the Catholic Church, so sad to see him spreading lies about our faith
@3miL_2012
@3miL_2012 12 күн бұрын
The worst example of this is Todd Friel. The coward literally has most, if not all his comments disabled
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 12 күн бұрын
@@3miL_2012as well as white
@theurzamachine
@theurzamachine 12 күн бұрын
"Do this in remembrance of me" 1. Do what? "This" 2. What's "this"? Eating the bread and drinking the wine. 3. What does Jesus say the bread and the wine are? "His body and His blood"
@siddywiddyb
@siddywiddyb 12 күн бұрын
So simple, i can't see how protestants not only go of course with the understanding, but how they would not admit to “following the many disciples” that walked away from Jesus when they could not agree with the literal understanding. Pride, perhaps.
@theurzamachine
@theurzamachine 12 күн бұрын
@@siddywiddyb It's because before "Sola Scriptura" or "Sola Fide", it's "Catholicism is wrong". Imagine doing math insisting on PI being exactly 3. It won't work out and you'll need a lot of extras to make things kind of work.
@Clyde-S-Wilcox
@Clyde-S-Wilcox 12 күн бұрын
"This is my body" not "this is just a neat symbol."
@eucharistenjoyer
@eucharistenjoyer 12 күн бұрын
And if this wasn't enough, John 6 makes it even more obvious. But they can dismiss anything as a metaphor.
@HB_IE52829
@HB_IE52829 12 күн бұрын
I am the door - made out of wood I am the way - now He is tarmac The house, the sand and the rock - instructions for engineers and home owners The lamps and the oil - instructions for procurement The hidden treasure - Good luck finding Gods kingdom by digging in your garden Could tell you more, but need to drive to town now for classes how to sell and buy pearls...
@2ndSelf03
@2ndSelf03 12 күн бұрын
The irony of him wearing a "sola fide" t-shirt and then saying "After a person dies, their eternal fate is sealed BASED ON HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIFE whenever they were living."
@masterchief8179
@masterchief8179 12 күн бұрын
I noticed it too😅!
@phild3936
@phild3936 12 күн бұрын
"HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIFE " Is that a 'work'?
@gabriela6584
@gabriela6584 12 күн бұрын
​@@phild3936 Yes. Either good works or bad works
@dinaandrade5415
@dinaandrade5415 12 күн бұрын
Contradicting himself. Says one thing on his T-shirt and then states that, 'their fate is sealed based on how they lived their life whenever they were living'.
@Sharkman1963
@Sharkman1963 12 күн бұрын
Did you catch that he paused just a little bit as he was saying it? Like he was aware of the ridiculousness of his belief system, if only for the briefest moment.
@vtaylor21
@vtaylor21 12 күн бұрын
Allen Parr said the early Church didn't teach transubstantiation. Tell me you haven't read early Christian writings (i.e., Church Fathers) without telling me you haven't read early Christian writings.
@Justas399
@Justas399 12 күн бұрын
There were four views of the Eucharist in the early church. In his magnum opus, History of the Christian Church, historian Philip Schaff (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 2, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 241-245; Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 3, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 494-500) documents the four views the early church held in regards to the way in which Christ was associated with the bread and wine. You had the (1) mystical view of Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Cyril of Jerusalem which said the body and blood of Jesus are mystically in union with the elements leading to a sort of repetition of the incarnation, though no change in substance actually takes place as in later Romanism; (2) the symbolic view of Tertullian, Cyprian, Eusebius, Gregory Nazianzen, Macarius the Elder, Theodoret, Augustine and Gelasius which said the Eucharist symbolizes the body and blood of Jesus and is a commemoration, not Rome’s literalistic transubstantiation; (3) the allegorical or spiritual view of Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Athanasius which said the believer receives the spiritual but not physical blood and life of Jesus at Mass; and (4) the literalistic view of Hilary, Ambrose and Gaudentius which affirmed the bread and wine as being the literal transformed body and blood of Jesus which is basically in line with the modern Roman Catholic system. The Roman view is in the minority, while the symbolic and mystical views seem to be the most primitive and popular.”
@davidestate
@davidestate 12 күн бұрын
@@Justas399 You can also find it in the writings to Emperor Marcus Aurelius regarding the early church and eating of the flesh of Jesus. Early Romans called Christ believers in the Eucharist cannibals but the letter to Marcus explained, they don't eat people, they eat the living Jesus spiritually that has transformed into living bread.
@Justas399
@Justas399 12 күн бұрын
@@davidestate You are not getting that doctrine from exegeting the Scriptures.
@ghostapostle7225
@ghostapostle7225 12 күн бұрын
This is clearly secondary protestant source claiming this kind of nonsense.
@vman9347
@vman9347 12 күн бұрын
This is all great information but let’s not forget all the early church fathers disagreed on seperate issues but the important thing to remember is What the church teaches.
@SouthernFriedPap1st
@SouthernFriedPap1st 12 күн бұрын
This guy is on the same level as Ray Comfort and Mike Gendron. He has no interest in a dialogue with any Catholic apologist. He doesn't want to explore truth. He wants to feel good about his spirituality. Really old, tired arguments that are easily refuted.
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 12 күн бұрын
They need to justify their belief by trying to knock down Catholicism. No matter how emphatically people deny the church their conscience troubles them, deep down they know better.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 12 күн бұрын
No, no one is as bad as Mike Gendron. He might be as bad as Ray Comfort.
@frisco61
@frisco61 12 күн бұрын
@@MeanBeanComedy I saw a video of a Lutheran pastor defending infant baptism against Mike Gendron and you could tell how appalled he was at Mike’s out of control hubris. Mike actually said “anyone who defends infant baptism clearly hasn’t thought about it very deeply” it was so ridiculous that it still makes me laugh. The pastor replied with “sooo people like Martin Luther didn’t think about this very deeply.” It was golden.
@john-paulgies4313
@john-paulgies4313 12 күн бұрын
"Assurance of Salvation" is emblematic of this hubris. "I want to be saved, but I don't want a real relationship with God, just a Divine sugardaddy."💔
@banmancan1894
@banmancan1894 12 күн бұрын
Makes me sad. Trent and Jimmy are some of my favorite Christian apologists (period) and I'm a protestant. To not have dialogue and glean insight from such great minds is a terrible disservice.
@bencook6585
@bencook6585 12 күн бұрын
The portion on assurance of salvation is 100% accurate. In my life as a protestant, which is the vast majority of my life, I had constant fears along the lines of "what if my conversion wasn't genuine?", especially as I sinned. When converting to Catholicism this past winter (confirmed at Easter Vigil), I was often asked "how will you have assurance of your salvation, how will you have peace?". Since crossing the Tiber, I have never felt more assurance of my state with God than following confession. Hearing the words of the priest in persona Christi, "Your sins are forgiven, go in peace" is the assurance I had always been lacking in the protestant world.
@lumberzach77
@lumberzach77 12 күн бұрын
God bless you, brother. I'm also a convert from this past Easter. I was an atheist before, but God gave me the grace to see how wrong I was.
@bencook6585
@bencook6585 12 күн бұрын
@@lumberzach77 likewise, peace be with you. Pray for me, I'll pray for you
@izxy70
@izxy70 12 күн бұрын
This is my same experience converting to orthodoxy, instead of always worrying whether or not I was “truly” saved, the only thing I worry about now is if I have broken God’s heart. A Protestant objection is how we’ve made Christ as a “fearful judge”, but I was never more scared of God than when I was a Protestant. No assurance of true salvation, especially when I sinned and walked away from God. Since finding the truth I am no longer ruled by a fear of Hell or not being truly saved. Once saved always saved is a recipe for paranoia. Knowing that though I fall I have God as my Father welcoming back His prodigal is so much more assuring.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 12 күн бұрын
Also confirmed at this past Easter with the same experience! Did you watch Trent's video "Protestantism's Not So Simple Plan for Salvation"? I saw that last Summer when I first learned about Catholicism and it resonated with me fully
@juliuslinus
@juliuslinus 12 күн бұрын
I can relate to this, back when I struggled with Masturbation it felt as if I was somehow never enough, that I was doomed to succumb to my flesh. If It weren't for confession, my scruples would have led to me renouncing the faith entirely. It felt so peaceful, knowing that even after failing uncountable times, that I could always find a guaranteed assurance, even If that state of grace didn't last long. It was as if I had the ability to restart my life again, with a fresh new beginning, every week.
@nashfordtx
@nashfordtx 12 күн бұрын
Coming from a southern Baptist background, I had no knowledge of "church history." Then I started to wonder what was the first church like? What was first apostle's church like? What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings? I did not know Jesus in the southern Baptist church. This lead me to the Catholic Church and church history. I hope to join the true church one day.
@patricial.321
@patricial.321 11 күн бұрын
what is stopping you?
@davidthegood
@davidthegood 11 күн бұрын
I converted last year and now attend the Traditional Latin Mass with my wife and children. It is a huge blessing to be in the Church that stretches back to the Apostles. Now when I saw the Apostle's Creed, I mean all of it! One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. You won't regret it, my friend.
@mattduin7144
@mattduin7144 10 күн бұрын
​@@patricial.321Usually new catholics are baptised into the church at Easter
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 10 күн бұрын
quote---What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings.. unquote QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is a mediator. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will go to heaven. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is every ones mother. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Sunday is a holy day QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught .a mere man is head of His church. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will remain a virgin. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is never sinned. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Peter was named a pope. .etc, etc
@mattduin7144
@mattduin7144 9 күн бұрын
@@mitchellosmer1293 quote where any of that was not church teaching until 500 years ago
@pixelprincess9
@pixelprincess9 12 күн бұрын
I was banned from a 'Christian' discord server for posting this video in reply to someone posting Allen's original. Keep up your great ministry, Trent!
@cristinamz2137
@cristinamz2137 12 күн бұрын
Yes!! My comment on Allan Pars page was removed because they didn't like what I said about his erroneous assumptions.
@461weavile
@461weavile 12 күн бұрын
Keep fighting the good fight. The world will hate you because they hated the savior first.
@enderwiggen3638
@enderwiggen3638 12 күн бұрын
Yeah you attacked his monetary base of followers so they will always block your comments. They don’t want you to erode their base of followers
@TheJmlew11
@TheJmlew11 12 күн бұрын
That’s rough. Shows quite a bit of insecurity that they need to ban anyone who would dare suggest anything different from group think.
@EatMyKos
@EatMyKos 11 күн бұрын
Interesting, I was also banned from a Christian discord server - which one were you a part of?
@moosechuckle
@moosechuckle 12 күн бұрын
My wife and I have been on a search for a new church. The modern church continues to move closer to closer to culture and further and further away from the gospels. We want authenticity and tradition, and I’m thankful for these resources when it comes to learning about Catholic teachings.
@glennlanham6309
@glennlanham6309 12 күн бұрын
even in Catholicism, its tricky today, find a conservative Catholic chruch...
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
I've been there last year when I was seeking which church is truer. All I can suggest you is that you seek truth itself and not just a good preacher. Of course I truly believe fullness of Christian truth is only within the Catholic Church, but it's your choice in the end. My suggestion is that you also try an Eastern Catholic church if you got one nearby.
@fohombrice
@fohombrice 12 күн бұрын
@@glennlanham6309 What you're saying isn't true because there's only one Catholic Church and only one doctrine. If people say things contrary to doctrine, it's the people who are the problem, not the doctrine. Whereas with Protestants, doctrine is the problem.
@contemplatingchrist
@contemplatingchrist 12 күн бұрын
God bless you and your wife 🙏
@shortyshea27
@shortyshea27 12 күн бұрын
​@@glennlanham6309aka traditional. Grew up in what I found out is a liberal church and now attend a reverent one....quite different in reverence and piety
@bethezebra
@bethezebra 11 күн бұрын
As a Protestant, I can safely say that it is a good idea to ignore Allen Parr a good majority of the time. 🤷 And also, thanks to my Catholic brethren for standing so doctrinally strong on the Incarnation. I ❤️ you forever for that. 👑
@frankovstovski
@frankovstovski 12 күн бұрын
Like a typical Calvinist, Allen hates Catholicism more than he loves Jesus Christ.
@ianmiller07
@ianmiller07 12 күн бұрын
Could be wrong here but I don’t think Allen is a Calvinist
@PatrickInCayman
@PatrickInCayman 12 күн бұрын
@ianmiller07 he's a once saved, always saved.
@AJsoment95x
@AJsoment95x 12 күн бұрын
​@@ianmiller07not outright a Calvinist but in some of his videos he admitted on leaning towards Reformed views which are based on Calvinistic teachings.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
You're supposed to hate false doctrine/
@ianmiller07
@ianmiller07 12 күн бұрын
@@AJsoment95x Ah didn’t know that. Thanks for the info
@ginomaietta2702
@ginomaietta2702 12 күн бұрын
My whole life I never felt comfortable in my protestant belief. Since I converted to Catholicism, I can't stand even listening to them anymore and their weirdly enthusiastic tone while flat out lying.
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 4 күн бұрын
Welcome home! Best choice!
@MagnificatForever15
@MagnificatForever15 14 сағат бұрын
I agree (convert also) it is hard for me to listen to protestant "preachers" anymore.
@ronciego9249
@ronciego9249 12 күн бұрын
I hope Trent would do a Free for All Friday where he discusses how he researches, because he is so good at supporting his arguments with sources
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 12 күн бұрын
I love how he quotes protestants to put them up against other protestants. They both go by sola scriptura and both claim to interpret the scriptures with the Holy Spirit yet contradict each other. Who do we listen to? It's as if he is showing the protestants that 1. another protestant refutes their position, 2. the division in protestantism and 3. no authority to say who is right or wrong in protestantism.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
I hope he makes a video using the gospels to support his claims.
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager Cool straw man. Is this what protestant "pastors" teach at bible "study?"
@EmberBright2077
@EmberBright2077 11 күн бұрын
​@@FleurPillager Please try to not act in bad faith. It is certainly unchristian behaviour.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 10 күн бұрын
@@EmberBright2077 He doesn't do that in this video. He's just quoting Catholic scholars instead of comparing the words of Jesus to false Catholic doctrine.
@TheMOV13
@TheMOV13 12 күн бұрын
He said that "we protestants" believe the bread and wine to be purely symbolic. Actually, even in the protestant world, this is a minority view.
@peterlee6148
@peterlee6148 10 күн бұрын
Protestant here.He is right purely symbolic.
@TheMOV13
@TheMOV13 10 күн бұрын
@@peterlee6148Sure, but in the Protestant world it’s still a minority position. It’s probably only in the Protestant evangelical world that it’s a majority position
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 10 күн бұрын
@@peterlee6148 Which church? There are hundreds of Protestant denominations.
@yeuxverts8494
@yeuxverts8494 10 күн бұрын
@@peterlee6148wrong, Lutherans, Anglicans, reformed don’t hold to symbolic view
@yeuxverts8494
@yeuxverts8494 10 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillagerthere are no hundreds, that’s a straw man there’s only a small handful of Protestant traditions
@HotManJonah
@HotManJonah 12 күн бұрын
I’ve always found it interesting how some Protestants go after Catholic beliefs and teachings. Yet never attack Orthodox views who have like 90% of the same views as us… (saints, Theotokos, etc)
@ChristiFuturum
@ChristiFuturum 12 күн бұрын
Most don't know the Orthodox exist.
@sasquatchhunter86
@sasquatchhunter86 12 күн бұрын
All they know is Catholics, other Protestants, and Jewish. Tell them about the Orthodox and their brain will short circuit!
@drangue9017
@drangue9017 12 күн бұрын
It's a american protestant thing to go after catholics. And because they're americans, they don't even know what orthodoxy is. I live in Switzerland and catholics and protestant go hand in hand with each other. you often have pastor preaching in catholic churches or catholic priest preaching in protestant churches... or holding together a mass. But here in Switzerland the protestant or more or less "homogen"... here you have the "protestant church" and not 1000 variations of protestant churches.
@Brainboxreview
@Brainboxreview 12 күн бұрын
Not surprising. The Catholic Church is by far the biggest denomination in the world. So it’s the big bad boogeyman
@lumberzach77
@lumberzach77 12 күн бұрын
​@@Brainboxreview not to be "ackshually" but we are not a denomination. We are what they come from.
@nickswicegood4316
@nickswicegood4316 12 күн бұрын
Thank you Trent for pointing out the many blind spots in Protestantism. It’s a little wild that while you’re explaining Catholic teaching and correcting Parr’s misunderstandings, you also have to correct his own views of Protestantism! Thanks for your good and careful work brother.
@user-th6yf5uo6h
@user-th6yf5uo6h 12 күн бұрын
I applaud Trent Horn for his loving patience to respond to such weak and faulty arguments. As a manager I often fail to show so much kindness to such poor reasoning and research. A convert from Pentecostalism to the Catholic Church 😂
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 12 күн бұрын
Ha! Bet that's a wild story. 😜😝
@frisco61
@frisco61 12 күн бұрын
It is incredibly frustrating for sure, feels like beating the proverbial horse.
@jamesjacob4002
@jamesjacob4002 12 күн бұрын
God bless you!
@jtbasener8740
@jtbasener8740 12 күн бұрын
As I am protestant, I'm usually an affiliate with the Gavin Ortlund Mafia, but I did really like the points you made here. I believe I actually agree with your wording more than that of Parr's in a number of areas. I appreciate that you make it clear not to treat all Protestants the same since it is a rather vast spectrum of belief. Thank you for being so charitable, Mr. Horn! Have a very blessed day as well!
@erin6083
@erin6083 7 күн бұрын
I pray you’ll come to your true home - I’m a convert myself and I assure you, Protestants are missing an ocean of beauty and a depth to their faith that they don’t know is missing. The sacraments are so important and powerful, too. Please don’t hesitate. God bless you.
@jtbasener8740
@jtbasener8740 7 күн бұрын
@@erin6083 My dear friend, I sincerely appreciate your care for me despite our disagreements. I never want to take anything lightly that I should have pursued more closely and that most definitely includes the sacraments and tradition of Christianity. I wish you the best and pray that God blesses you as well.
@Issacandjacob
@Issacandjacob 7 күн бұрын
Sanhedrin pt 2 arrived. Congrats, you will be the recipients of Matthew 7:21-23. You will proclaim you “kept the church” “performed miracles” and Christ will turn you away cause you lost the message, again. Just like the Jews did first go again, the second generation of those Jews is showing itself
@erin6083
@erin6083 7 күн бұрын
@@jtbasener8740 That was so kind and beautifully said. Thank you. Truly, I pray for God to bless you and for the Holy Spirit to lead you to the Church if that is God’s will for you. Regardless, thank you again.
@jtbasener8740
@jtbasener8740 7 күн бұрын
@@erin6083 Certainly, dear friend! Thank you for your kindness.
@LaEsoterica
@LaEsoterica 12 күн бұрын
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, Trent, for making this video! Allen's video irked my soul. I was talking to my phone the entire time, refuting his claims. I thought I was going to have to break my social media silence to make a video refuting his outrageous claims. Bravo, Trent. Bravo.
@LukeBowman08
@LukeBowman08 12 күн бұрын
as a Lutheran, it annoys me so much when people like Allen Parr make Protestantism out to be low church, non sacramental, and osas. i would rather go to a Catholic church than a Protestant low church because even though i disagree with Catholics on points about justification (which isn't as grave as a difference as people make it out to be) or the treasury of merit, at least Catholics realize the importance of the sacraments and that we must continue in the faith. and Trent saying that "Only God can get me to heaven but you and I can certainly get ourselves to hell." seems very similar to the Lutheran view which would be that we don't preserve ourselves in the faith, God the Holy Spirit does, but we can also still resist God's grace which is a reality we should acknowledge as possible.
@John_Fisher
@John_Fisher 12 күн бұрын
I appreciate your thoughts. I agree, there are certainly meaningful differences between us as Catholics and Lutherans, but you are right about this issue. We as Catholics have to be careful not to say "Protestants believe [X]" as if all Protestants are one and the same, but it is also all too common for some Protestants to say "Catholics are wrong because they believe [X]" and not realize that they are actually denying a common or even majority held belief/practice that other Protestants affirm as well.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
The Catholic Church makes things up contrary to the teaching of Jesus. No such thing as mortal sins, intercession of the saints or the infallibility of the Pope. Not to mention the history of the church and what they did to the peasants who translated and dared to read the gospels. Thousands unalived.
@theyliveyousleep8965
@theyliveyousleep8965 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager please explain what the Catholic Church has made up? If you are a Bible alone “sola scriptura” Protestant, then do you realize how much of YOUR beliefs are made up? Protestantism is a man-made gnostic religion…with a bit of Jesus added in. Why did the Protestants REMOVE 7 books of the Bible? Do you know anything about Martin Luther and what a crass, immoral and evil man he was?
@theyliveyousleep8965
@theyliveyousleep8965 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager and please, feel free to research before posting ridiculous rumors about Catholicism. Each one of your claims have been entirely debunked and clarified. But you’d have to actually take the time to go research those claims on your own. It seems though, that Protestants would rather spend that time posting insults and attacks instead.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
@@theyliveyousleep8965 I did explain what the church made up contrary to the teachings of Jesus. There's more too.
@tigar007
@tigar007 12 күн бұрын
I love this kinds of videos.. respect from catholic Croatia
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@heathc148
@heathc148 6 күн бұрын
Croatia is beautiful country
@InTheCloudsFilm
@InTheCloudsFilm 12 күн бұрын
Im subbed to Mr. Par because up until this easter I was protestant, I saw this video in my sub feed and thought "well this is heresy... can't wait for trents video on it." thank you Mr Horn for your continued defense of the faith. :)
@MarceloIsasmendi
@MarceloIsasmendi 12 күн бұрын
Welcome to the Catholic Church, brother
@InTheCloudsFilm
@InTheCloudsFilm 12 күн бұрын
@@MarceloIsasmendi It feels good to be home, thank you. Praise God.
@shepherddog1199
@shepherddog1199 12 күн бұрын
​@@InTheCloudsFilm soon I shall come home to the Church of Christ soon too! May God bless you and keep you and may Our Lady pray for you.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 12 күн бұрын
Praise to God! I had the same experience with Mike Winger. Was also confirmed at Easter this year and get Mike's videos in my feed only to roll my eyes every time he mentions Catholicism
@InTheCloudsFilm
@InTheCloudsFilm 12 күн бұрын
@@shepherddog1199 AMEN! praying for you!
@r.j.miller
@r.j.miller 12 күн бұрын
As a Protestant, I’m so sorry that your teachings were treated with so little care and education. Specifically, transubstantiation, Communion or The Eucharist is so amazing and is the tangible grace of God! As I watched I realized how much evangelicals do not understand the omnipresence of God and how he is amble move outside of time.
@TitusFlavius11
@TitusFlavius11 12 күн бұрын
Truth is, Evangelicals are a caricature of historical Protestantism.
@davidestate
@davidestate 12 күн бұрын
God bless you.
@scrapdog2113
@scrapdog2113 12 күн бұрын
Thank you and God bless you, my friend :)
@banmancan1894
@banmancan1894 12 күн бұрын
Me too.
@pdxnikki1
@pdxnikki1 12 күн бұрын
Look, I didn't either when I was an atheist & then an evangelical. They don't encourage sincere inquiry. They want to hand you the answer with no effort involved. No one gets anything worthwhile that way, except the gift of redemption which still requires our acceptance for salvation. 😁🌹🙏
@SquattRakk
@SquattRakk 12 күн бұрын
The misinformation about Catholicism actually pushed me to learn the truth about it. After realizing how much slander the church has endured, it led me to believe it to be the true church. “The gates of hell” attack the Catholic Church more than any other, and they still have not prevailed against it ❤️✝️
@empackmanmueller1725
@empackmanmueller1725 12 күн бұрын
So did you come home?
@SquattRakk
@SquattRakk 12 күн бұрын
@@empackmanmueller1725 God willing I will be starting RCIA this fall 🙏🏻
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
The Catholic Church has their own doctrine and it's not in alignment with the gospels.
@phenomenal821
@phenomenal821 12 күн бұрын
​@@FleurPillager 🥱🥱🥱🥱
@_ROMANS_116
@_ROMANS_116 12 күн бұрын
The RCC preaches a perverted gospel and is accursed per Paul.
@georgeperez611
@georgeperez611 12 күн бұрын
I think the worst part is that allen mentions the 400 years of silence as fact and presents it as biblical, even though it is not explicitly in spcripture. What happened to sola scriptura
@rubemartur8239
@rubemartur8239 12 күн бұрын
Allen have opinion on fake gospels spread during those 4 centuries, Full of gnosticism, but prohibited by the Church by the Canon List?
@n_l19
@n_l19 10 күн бұрын
I don't understand why Protestants in the US are attacking Catholics, even though both believe in Jesus. In Asia, all Christians stand together and never badmouth one another despite being assaulted by non-Christians, especially Muslims. The attack on us is even more severe than we are called infidels and whatnot. Some Muslim Friday sermons are about Christians and talk through a loudspeaker. Thanks for this video. I am a proud Catholic.
@angelalewis3645
@angelalewis3645 6 күн бұрын
THIS. ❤
@LuisFernandoImperator
@LuisFernandoImperator 12 күн бұрын
I’m a professional videographer. Great lighting, Trent. Love it.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 12 күн бұрын
Same here, yup! 😎👍🏻
@shieldoffaith8798
@shieldoffaith8798 12 күн бұрын
I’m so saddened by Allen now I couldn’t finish the video. I used to listen to him when I was Protestant and never felt his arguments against Catholicism made sense. It also breaks my heart that so many believe Catholics are not Christian’s. It seems really disingenuous of him to not investigate the teachings of the Eucharist. I discovered that without this belief, one would not even be considered a Christian back before 100 AD. I was shocked to find out what St Ignatius and others who learned from the disciples taught. It blows my mind how early church history is not being taught. At the very least, he should study history first. I’m so happy to leave Protestantism behind. His comparison of Catholics praying to saints, as necromancy just proves how sola scriptura is wrong. These people believe they get to interpret all the scriptures however they want to 😢
@empackmanmueller1725
@empackmanmueller1725 12 күн бұрын
Amen welcome home! I pray you will discover all of the rich treasures of God's true and holy church
@miguelsemidei7619
@miguelsemidei7619 12 күн бұрын
Mr Parr does one thing in his video... he says I THINK a lot , so it's all basically "his opinion". I would like to see him explain away Eucharistic miracles.
@sezcerjan4431
@sezcerjan4431 12 күн бұрын
He would say they are demonic.
@brittanywhittingham1658
@brittanywhittingham1658 12 күн бұрын
As a orthodox Christian, it’s very hard to respect protestants that don’t recognize Catholics or Christian and disrespect the teachings and history and theology of Catholics. I’m recognizing evangelicals talk about no division and Christianity but continue to divide if any other Christian does not think like them example Catholics and orthodox Christians
@jherandsoleil6335
@jherandsoleil6335 12 күн бұрын
Seems one sided on your biases here. More likely to see a Catholic talk about no one else is a Christian since they are not a part of the "one true church" compared to an evangelical who would be more likely to admit other denominations can be saved whereas differ on doctrine.
@MaaFreddy
@MaaFreddy 12 күн бұрын
@@jherandsoleil6335Actually the answers to your questions are in the catechism of the Catholic Church, I would encourage guy to read it.
@billystorrs6054
@billystorrs6054 12 күн бұрын
​@jherandsoleil6335 I disagree. The church acknowledges that people who are not Catholic can be saved. Evangelicals? They often say that the Catholic church is satanic and is damned to hell.
@jherandsoleil6335
@jherandsoleil6335 12 күн бұрын
@@MaaFreddy There was no question
@MaaFreddy
@MaaFreddy 12 күн бұрын
Let’s call it misconceptions then . Anyway the way we ought to relate to our Christian brothers is explained in the catechism.
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 12 күн бұрын
Never heard of Allen Parr but I'm glad we have Trent to explain what the Church actually teaches.
@kenid4144
@kenid4144 11 күн бұрын
Ask Trent what the churches teaches about Islam, then you find him in trouble😅
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@Swish82
@Swish82 12 күн бұрын
The moment he said, "I personally don't think" was where I knew he was wrong. He's using his own opinion to try to disprove Catholicism.
@Swish82
@Swish82 11 күн бұрын
Also the NLT is a horrible translation.
@Disguised31
@Disguised31 8 күн бұрын
As horrible as he is! 😂😂​@@Swish82
@oliveoilsupremacist5314
@oliveoilsupremacist5314 5 күн бұрын
Same thought here 🙋🏻‍♀️
@Tony-cm8lg
@Tony-cm8lg 12 күн бұрын
It’s funny too because the Church has dealt with, clarified and taught all of this throughout the centuries since the apostolic age. It’s like there’s a mass amnesia
@bikesrcool_1958
@bikesrcool_1958 12 күн бұрын
That’s almost exactly what it is. Many evangelicals completely forget the thousand years before Martin Luther, and some done even care about the reformation denominations and are less traditional with the ted talk churches
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
About church atrocities and corruption, yes, amnesia. False doctrine.
@JohnPaul-wn6xh
@JohnPaul-wn6xh 11 күн бұрын
​@@FleurPillageryeah false doctrine created by the deformers, who worship Martin Luthefer
@stickmastergib3665
@stickmastergib3665 12 күн бұрын
Been looking forward to this rebuttal since I saw this Allen Parr video show up on my homepage. It was uploaded just after I watched your debate with Gavin Ortlund on Sola Scriptura, very peculiar timing indeed. Edit: The new setup is clean!
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 7 күн бұрын
Praying for the dead is a sign of brotherly love. There is nothing to lose to pray for our brothers who needs cleansing of imperfection.
@BuffetNeverDies
@BuffetNeverDies 12 күн бұрын
As usual, Trent delivers. Always addressing the argument and providing evidence for his claims. Trent’s straightforward and evidence based videos are a huge reason for my reversion!
@PhillipCalvin627
@PhillipCalvin627 10 күн бұрын
So glad that you are here, Trent. You do great work.
@genevievemallon821
@genevievemallon821 12 күн бұрын
Is anyone else bothered that the Sola Fide shirt has a space before faith and then none after alone?
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 12 күн бұрын
On the bracket? Yeah. Looks printed on and someone made a typo
@matthewjohnston1400
@matthewjohnston1400 12 күн бұрын
I am now.
@milkeywilkie
@milkeywilkie 12 күн бұрын
oh lol I see it
@Mikolaj_Kapusta
@Mikolaj_Kapusta 12 күн бұрын
Faith has a space with it, and alone is alone. Never thought I'll write such a sentence.
@wetfart420
@wetfart420 9 күн бұрын
can't unsee it now you mentioned it
@ShadyJay27
@ShadyJay27 10 күн бұрын
I've only been Catholic for 7 years and all these protestant arguments are all the same. I thank God for opening my heart to the truth and giving me a home in the Catholic church.
@JoanArc-or9sr
@JoanArc-or9sr 8 күн бұрын
Home is in Jesus and heaven, not in a institution
@ShadyJay27
@ShadyJay27 7 күн бұрын
@@JoanArc-or9sr of course. The Church is his bride.
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls 6 күн бұрын
Spiritual definition of church is[ faith in Christ ] Not a building or instution.
@ShadyJay27
@ShadyJay27 6 күн бұрын
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls Yes, the Catholic church has faith in Christ. What's your point?
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls 6 күн бұрын
Faith in christ is personal. .RIGHT
@kaiserconquests1871
@kaiserconquests1871 12 күн бұрын
I did find it quite strange that he showed the correct definition of indulgences but then didn't quote from it and instead said that indulgences pay for sins and not temporal punishments of sin.
@CTdonnner1991
@CTdonnner1991 12 күн бұрын
I appreciate this guys zeal for the faith but man would it hurt him to sit down with an actual Catholic theologian to bounce his thoughts against to at least criticize us correctly? Catholicism is the largest faith in the world, and we have access to the internet, it cant be that hard to do given he walks in Christian circles.
@PrzybyszzMatplanety
@PrzybyszzMatplanety 11 күн бұрын
It will greatly hurt him, apparently this is a way Parr is making money. He's not interested in scholarship and theology as it may diminish the number of people giving him money. That's why this kind of preacher is afraid to go out of their echo chamber and confront arguments with other side. He doesn't want Catholic arguments to convince any of his sheep, therefore he prefers to create made up positions to represent Catholic teachings.
@Given_Grace
@Given_Grace 12 күн бұрын
It feels so nice now watching Catholic content not in a state of contempt or fear. I dont know why but when I was a Protestant I would avoid Trent's content because what if he actually causes me to doubt. As a Catechuman in the Catholic church I am do at peace noe with the Christian faith 😊
@tammywilliams-ankcorn9533
@tammywilliams-ankcorn9533 12 күн бұрын
I was just at my former Baptist pastor’s memorial service. They quoted Hebrews and said he was in heaven cheering us on. I sat there realizing they just agreed with Catholics 😀
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan 12 күн бұрын
Catholics don’t believe that people automatically go to heaven. We do believe in judgment day, so your old pastor had to go through his judgment day.
@dananderson6697
@dananderson6697 12 күн бұрын
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan Technically, you do not believe his old pastor can even make it into heaven to begin with.
@EmberBright2077
@EmberBright2077 12 күн бұрын
​@@dananderson6697 No. We hold that Protestants are in a partial communion with the Church, and that Protestants may possibly be saved. We do not assume of any soul that they are 100% in Hell.
@dananderson6697
@dananderson6697 12 күн бұрын
​@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics. You say you do not assume anything of any soul, meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation. It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
@dananderson6697
@dananderson6697 12 күн бұрын
​@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics. You say you do not assume anything of any soul - meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation. Worse, a very great deal of Catholics (including Trent here) would say a "protestant" isn't even allowed to participate in half of those sacraments, specifically *because* they are "protestant" and purposefully rejecting Catholic authority. It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
@dsmp7
@dsmp7 12 күн бұрын
Man I’m in the first rebuttal section and this is hard to get through. This reads like Parr is being willfully ignorant/obtuse but maybe he’s just that convinced of his false position. Immaculate heart of Mary, pray for us
@user-or3xx6rk2s
@user-or3xx6rk2s 12 күн бұрын
Your rebuttal videos are always on point. Charitable with the people, savage with the ideas.
@adrianrg75
@adrianrg75 12 күн бұрын
You'd think they would come up with some new arguments from time to time, but, alas, here we go again with the same arguments...
@DanielDiaz-uw2ob
@DanielDiaz-uw2ob 8 күн бұрын
Good job, Trent. Documented, Compelling, Repectful and Charitable. Thank God for your talent and your work.
@TradPapol
@TradPapol 12 күн бұрын
18:00 did he just equate smoking crack to texting while driving? To even suggest those two things in the same sentence is wild.
@Broooooo-ww7hw
@Broooooo-ww7hw 12 күн бұрын
18:30
@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation
@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation 12 күн бұрын
Yes he did 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@heyman.712
@heyman.712 12 күн бұрын
It is simply unwise to smoke crack, brother. But, yeah, onto heaven you go lol
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 12 күн бұрын
If you are addicted, your culpability may be lowered, but it's best to never use that drug because of guaranteed addiction.
@CatholicSamurai
@CatholicSamurai 12 күн бұрын
I can accept smoking crack, but texting and driving is where I draw the line!
@justinmartyr6454
@justinmartyr6454 12 күн бұрын
How dare you question Pope Parr? He has definitively defined the entire Bible according to what Jesus intended. All hail Pope Parr!
@Ahope4444
@Ahope4444 12 күн бұрын
Keep it up!! All holy angels and saints alive in heaven, pray for us! Jesus, I trust in you take care of everything. 🙏🙌🕊
@christianorthodoxy4769
@christianorthodoxy4769 2 күн бұрын
The hand soap 🧼 😂 😅 lol
@catherinemcdavid1533
@catherinemcdavid1533 12 күн бұрын
Asking a saint to pray for us has nothing to do with communicating with the dead. The Saints do not talk back.
@peterlee6148
@peterlee6148 12 күн бұрын
Nah 😂go to jesus directly.
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, talking to the saints is not necromancy. We’re not using any voodoo to talk to them.
@Fiddleslip
@Fiddleslip 12 күн бұрын
@@peterlee6148 I hope you have never asked another person to pray for you, otherwise you're a hypocrite
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
Asking a saint to pray for us is found no where in the gospels. The Catholic Church made up their own religion and it's not based on the teachings of Christ.
@catherinemcdavid1533
@catherinemcdavid1533 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager I would think that a Christian would understand that eternal life is exactly that .. eternal life. For the righteous is doesn't start after death and it doesn't end after death. Alan mentions necromancy. Asking a saint to pray for us is not necromancy. Necromancy is trying to communicate with the dead. Communication is a two-way conversation. I speak to them and expect them to engage in a conversation with me. Catholics do not engage in that. When we ask a saint to pray for us, just as we ask our friends here... the prayer we ask them to pray for us goes ONE WAY...to God in the name of the Blessed Holy Trinity. Why would we ask saint to pray for us? We usually ask a saint that has experienced what we feel we are experiencing or a saint we have something in common with to pray for us .. We pray to God. Just because we ask a Saint to pray for us doesn't mean we bypass God...but we know our prayers will usually be what we think we need, not what we truly need. The saint will pray for what we need which will bring us closer to Christ.. ..while our friends will pray for what our earthly minds want...
@MrJayb76
@MrJayb76 12 күн бұрын
Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right.
@hatkingempire6286
@hatkingempire6286 12 күн бұрын
No y’all don’t so try some other lie
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 12 күн бұрын
Having been on both sides, lay Catholics are just as bad. But it's definitely the case that informed Catholics better represent Protestantism than the other way around
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm 12 күн бұрын
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._ Nothing wrong with being ignorant of pagan Catholicism, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics being ignorant of Christianity, which they are.
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc 12 күн бұрын
@@hatkingempire6286AMEN. ITS ANOTHER CHRIST
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm 12 күн бұрын
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._ Nothing wrong with being ignorant of Catholicism and it's man made doctrines, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics lacking knowledge of Christianity, which they are.
@AquinasAssociate
@AquinasAssociate 12 күн бұрын
New set looks great, Trent. Excellent video!
@CatholicNonno
@CatholicNonno 12 күн бұрын
'The Catholics' is a passive aggressive way of speaking.
@poesia-com-cafeina
@poesia-com-cafeina 11 күн бұрын
I spoke with a Presbyterian pastor once and everytime I used the word Catholic, he would correct me and say "Roman Catholic". Very annoying, as If he would honestly call himself Catholic in his day to day life.
@KacperMigdal
@KacperMigdal 12 күн бұрын
Thank you mr. Trent for clearing up a lot of confusion. I've been watching these types of videos and didn't know what to think. Your videos strengthen my Catholic faith and calm me down, haha! God bless!
@TheCounselofTrent
@TheCounselofTrent 11 күн бұрын
Most welcome! Thank you for your support of the channel! -Vanessa
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@victormossiii1196
@victormossiii1196 12 күн бұрын
I was explaining to my grandmother (non - Catholic) about purgatory. I explained how many Protestant/Evangelical Christians believe struggle with sins or don't have a chance to ask for forgiveness and repent will make it to heaven "smoking" (I was one of those that believed that way before my conversion to a Catholic Christian). This sounds a lot like purgatory and this helped me to accept the belief in purgatory.
@neverclevernorwitty7821
@neverclevernorwitty7821 12 күн бұрын
I think the main problem I have with Parr's arguments is they frequently assert "I don't think... ." He consistently places his own opinions as if it were an authority in of itself, there seems to be a lack of any true humility.
@JasonScott-eo4iy
@JasonScott-eo4iy 8 күн бұрын
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@ChristopherThomas-tk8xx
@ChristopherThomas-tk8xx 8 күн бұрын
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@JasonScott-eo4iy
@JasonScott-eo4iy 8 күн бұрын
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@JasonScott-eo4iy
@JasonScott-eo4iy 8 күн бұрын
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@RobertAnthony-kh5kk
@RobertAnthony-kh5kk 8 күн бұрын
I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...
@RobertAnthony-kh5kk
@RobertAnthony-kh5kk 8 күн бұрын
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@utit-ofonidaraibangha1460
@utit-ofonidaraibangha1460 12 күн бұрын
I love the new thumbnail graphic and the studio setup. It's absolutely wonderful. Keep up the good work Sir. May the Almighty God continue to bless and guide you.
@WilliamNoelle
@WilliamNoelle 12 күн бұрын
The sheer ignorance of Catholic teachings shown by Parr here is absolutely embarrassing. Considering you would go through the trouble of making a video about it you would think you should educate yourself about what Catholics actually believe.
@Rahner79
@Rahner79 11 күн бұрын
Excellent video, Trent. I have recently returned to the Catholic faith, and I am currently reading your book, "The Case for Catholicism," which I am enjoying. I am a trained theologian, with two Masters degrees in theology, and discernment, prayer, returning to the Church Fathers, and the prospect of teaching theology at a Catholic school brought me back. Thank you for defending the faith.
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@wyattbenson8516
@wyattbenson8516 6 күн бұрын
Im Orthodox but It’s so nice getting to cheer on Catholic defenders against protestant attacks.
@lesmen4
@lesmen4 12 күн бұрын
Protestant buisiness is threatened by the large scale exodus to ancient Church.
@banmancan1894
@banmancan1894 12 күн бұрын
Honestly, as long as a person is following Christ I am happy (Protestant here).
@lesmen4
@lesmen4 12 күн бұрын
@@banmancan1894 Following the inspired teachings of early Church fathers and martyres, thier inspired tradition is what flourished the early church.
@reginald6803
@reginald6803 12 күн бұрын
​@@banmancan1894how can you be a follower of Jesus and be protestant at the same time??
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 12 күн бұрын
My listening attention shut down when Parr started talking about how he's assured of salvation and has no restrictions on anything he wants to do. It's not that I was blocking his voice out of prejudice against his view, it's because what he says is so utterly nonsensical that my mind refused to consider it. So I just went with my instinct and didn't rewind. Life is too short for such nonsense.
@RabidLeech.
@RabidLeech. 12 күн бұрын
The NLT “translation” of Ephesians 2:8-9 is probably the most egregious mistranslation of that passage I’ve ever seen.
@Brutananadlewski
@Brutananadlewski 12 күн бұрын
I like to imagine purgatory like someone picking crops. Some of the crops are not salvageable and are thrown out. The ones that are in good condition may be dirty or have other small impurities that need to be cleansed by the farmer.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 12 күн бұрын
Purgatory does literally come from a verb meaning to scrub
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
Where is purgatory explained by Jesus in the gospels? Oh yeah, it's not mentioned.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager he also never says the word trinity
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
@@marvalice3455 Priests absolving people of sin? also not mentioned.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 12 күн бұрын
@@FleurPillager "those whose sins you forgive are forgiven..." Learn scripture
@gregbradburn
@gregbradburn 12 күн бұрын
Thanks so much Trent for your clarity on these topics. I'd love to see a discussion between you and Allen Parr.
@Purpose_of_Christ
@Purpose_of_Christ 12 күн бұрын
Catholicism makes you yearn for righteousness which to me is better than some protestants saying i can't lose my salvation. there is no assurance whatsoever. At least I know when I do good works, even if it doesn't contribute to my salvation, I know to some extent I know I will be with God when I die. Your faith in Christ should come with love for Christ. I have always said Catholicism always make so much sense compared to Protestantism.
@faithshare7200
@faithshare7200 12 күн бұрын
I want to explain to you why God sees our works: A lot of people claim, "Once saved, always saved." But there is something they completely forget about--the carnal nature. When we are saved, we are not automatically released from our carnal nature. We must crucify it. That's why Jesus says to take up our Cross. A lot of people say, "Works can't get you into heaven. Only grace!" And they are correct. But grace links me up to the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is active! He wants to work for God! Just because I am linked to the Holy Spirit, that doesn't make me a self-indulgent slob. Just thinking that is blasphemy! Because I am linked with the Holy Spirit, He does His works through me! He wants to serve God, and He does it through me! Let me share a story with you: There is a doctor trying to work on a patient. But the patient is being wheeled around by a nurse who won't let him stay put in his wheelchair. Every time the doctor tries to get to the patient, the nurse whizzes him away. The Doctor is Jesus. The Nurse is the carnal nature. And the Patient is you and I. The carnal nature always wants to be in control. The carnal nature can be tamed and can even follow rules because it wants the spotlight. It wants to feel self-righteous. But, there's one thing the carnal nature can't do: it can't be reborn. So, the patient has to look at the nurse and scream, "GET OUT! Leave me alone!" and then the doctor can get to work. The patient isn't doing a good work when he tells the nurse, "Get out!" On the contrary, he is NOT doing what the carnal nature wants. Wouldn't it be better if the patient was connected to life support, the Holy Spirit, and the doctor can work freely? It would be far better if the patient was critical and supported by the Holy Spirit's life support, then if he was being wheeled around by the carnal nature.
@rebeccaboukouvalas3137
@rebeccaboukouvalas3137 12 күн бұрын
Excited to watch, I was waiting for this one 😂🎉
@robinson5923
@robinson5923 12 күн бұрын
Woah the quality of his videos escalated so quickly, thank you for your efforts, God bless!! 💖
@Catmonks7
@Catmonks7 12 күн бұрын
Protestants still bring up old arguments that have been answered for years now 😂
@christianorthodoxy4769
@christianorthodoxy4769 2 күн бұрын
You mean for centuries.. 😅
@g2g.crusading
@g2g.crusading 12 күн бұрын
My brother Trent putting in good work as always!
@CloroxBleach-cq7tj
@CloroxBleach-cq7tj 12 күн бұрын
Lutherans don't believe in "consubstantiation" - nor do they believe that there is only a spiritual presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Spiritual presence alone is more of a Presbyterian view
@CloroxBleach-cq7tj
@CloroxBleach-cq7tj 8 күн бұрын
@@mpkropf5062 I'd agree that they have the correct view. But I'm partial to the metaphysical explanation provided by Aquinas
@RobertHallKoC3
@RobertHallKoC3 12 күн бұрын
Before I even get started, what's sad about Allen is Frank Turek had Jimmy Akin on recently to talk about misconceptions about Catholicism. However, Allen is now an instructor with Frank's Cross Examined Instructor academy (which I and Cameron Bertuzzi are graduates). I can't for the life of me figure out why you would have a guy like this be an instructor when he is producing this kind of content.
@michaelfowler9467
@michaelfowler9467 12 күн бұрын
Loving the production value with the new studio, and the content of course is also top tier! Keep up the good work Trent!!
@rachelrines6713
@rachelrines6713 12 күн бұрын
“This verse is clear that immediately after death people will be judged based on how they lived their lives.” *Wearing sola fide shirt* 🧐
@angelalewis3645
@angelalewis3645 6 күн бұрын
😂 Yup.
@TrapperDavido
@TrapperDavido 12 күн бұрын
“Righteous” has a quantifiable definition. Three stages of the interior life explains it clearly. It’s not subjective.
@Nidhogg13
@Nidhogg13 11 күн бұрын
The Purgatory part reminded me of a story I read once of a saint who had visions of Purgatory. I can't remember who it was, but she said there were protestants in Purgatory, but they have the hardest time there because their families and friends don't pray for them.
@annamariamix5963
@annamariamix5963 11 күн бұрын
Protestants are mistaken thinking the dead in Christ are cut off, the Communion of Saints is actually based on Scripture with Paul's teaching, as in Romans 12:4-13 and 1 Corinthians 12:12-27, that in Christ Christians form a single body.
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 12 күн бұрын
After watching this I can't help but feel like Parr actually made the Catholic argument sound more attractive.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 12 күн бұрын
Calvinism has been addressed long ago by Saint Francis de Sales, who used to live in Geneva. Unsurprisingly, no Calvinists at the time were willing to have a disputation with him in public, so he had to write a very long letter instead addressing the Calvinist sect. It has been edited and published in book format in recent times by the English title, "The Catholic Controversy".
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 12 күн бұрын
Probably because they were in danger of being un alive d by the Catholic Church. They literally burned people for publishing the Bible, reading it and questioning the teachings of the the church.
@johnangelino437
@johnangelino437 9 күн бұрын
Loving your new setup, sir Trent! Prayers and cheers from the Philippines. Thank you for your works!
@casanovagirl
@casanovagirl 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for this great video, Trent! Also love the new studio setup!
@TheCounselofTrent
@TheCounselofTrent 11 күн бұрын
Glad you like it! Thanks! -Vanessa
@Skymast3r
@Skymast3r 12 күн бұрын
A discussion with Allen Par about this would be awesome and benefit the body of Christ. Would love to see that.
@r.c4914
@r.c4914 12 күн бұрын
If the Bread and wine is just a " symboL" Why would this symbol can condemned you if ... 1 Corinthians 11,27-29 27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. 28. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
@jacksonrpaul
@jacksonrpaul 6 күн бұрын
I like the production value of your new videos Trent! Keep it up! Sending Love from the LCMS! ❤️ 🤝 ✝️
@Qrischun
@Qrischun 5 күн бұрын
Keep up the rebuttals. That’s how I discovered your channel and continue to be my favorite kind of videos.
@Frug4l
@Frug4l 12 күн бұрын
Wow right off the bat he shows so much pride by saying he knows he is a righteous person.
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 12 күн бұрын
The devil, I mean John Calvin giving them a false sense of security with that OSAS doctrine.
@ethanmiller5487
@ethanmiller5487 12 күн бұрын
​@IoannesVI wow, that's a lot of pride in thinking he's not a righteous person as if you know his heart and have the authority to judge it. Both of you can be prideful at the same time.
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 12 күн бұрын
@@ethanmiller5487 Is bearing false witness a sin? That's what he's doing in this video against catholics. You should go watch his video on losing salvation since you think he's not a Calvinist.
@ethanmiller5487
@ethanmiller5487 12 күн бұрын
@@IoannesVI Is this how you want others to react to your corrections? Did I say anything about my views on his views? Where are you getting that idea?
@TheMOV13
@TheMOV13 12 күн бұрын
He would probably say that any righteousness we have as Christians is "imputed" righteousness, given as a gift from Christ. I think, however, that this is a very narrow view of what it means to be righteous.
@YvesAlexandre-ov2td
@YvesAlexandre-ov2td 11 күн бұрын
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@YvesAlexandre-ov2td
@YvesAlexandre-ov2td 11 күн бұрын
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@EzechuHeadd
@EzechuHeadd 11 күн бұрын
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@Mallinson-zt9ou
@Mallinson-zt9ou 11 күн бұрын
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@Mallinson-zt9ou 11 күн бұрын
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@sheltonunrabbe
@sheltonunrabbe 11 күн бұрын
Can I also do it??? My life is facing lots of challenges lately
@franciscoguido3087
@franciscoguido3087 12 күн бұрын
Love the new format Trent!
@RenegadeCatholic
@RenegadeCatholic 12 күн бұрын
Allen Parr is the Mike Winger of Calvinism.
@angelalewis3645
@angelalewis3645 6 күн бұрын
This.
@catholicocdpodcast
@catholicocdpodcast 12 күн бұрын
Good job. I made a couple videos last week rebutting Allen Parr's video. I hope trent will check them out. One lady said " wow, this is the greatest video ever and you are so special!" Was that lady my mom?? Sure, but a subscriber is a subscriber lol
@phenomenal821
@phenomenal821 12 күн бұрын
I just subscribed.
@catholicocdpodcast
@catholicocdpodcast 12 күн бұрын
​@@phenomenal821thank you. I'm no trent horn but I try to. Defend the faith. I've learned a lot from Trent. He is a blessing to the church.
@Ziiphyr
@Ziiphyr 12 күн бұрын
Hey you gotta start from some where
@riferoad
@riferoad 9 күн бұрын
The IHM TREE of life project kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KcgIR-jbdlbaM a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
@angelalewis3645
@angelalewis3645 6 күн бұрын
@@Ziiphyr That’s right!
@chancewilson6256
@chancewilson6256 12 күн бұрын
Loving the setup and lighting, Trent!
@Catholicdad_23
@Catholicdad_23 12 күн бұрын
Amazing job as always Trent! Thank you!
@fhblake04
@fhblake04 12 күн бұрын
Christ is King.
@MontyRL
@MontyRL 11 күн бұрын
I love your rebuttal videos. Not only packed with immense amount of information, but also how to deal with certain accusations from others
@TheCounselofTrent
@TheCounselofTrent 11 күн бұрын
We appreciate your support! Thanks! -Vanessa
@oluwafemijoseph2830
@oluwafemijoseph2830 5 күн бұрын
As an Anglican, I love the charity displayed by Trent. I would have expected Parr to seek dialogue with seasoned apologists before posting the video. Trent speaks with such clarity. In our Euchariistic Prayers, we say ''grant us therefore Gracious Lord to eat the flesh of your dear Son Jesus Christ...''
@mariocano2767
@mariocano2767 12 күн бұрын
Allen Parr would never have a debate with Trent. It would be like me getting into the boxing ring with Mike Tyson in his prime. I would get knocked out just by him coming towards me 😂😂😂 same if Parr were to get into any kind of debate or discussion with Trent 😰😱
@Bizub4
@Bizub4 12 күн бұрын
Surely I'm not the only one who thinks Trent looks older with the new camera and lighting 😂
@john-paulgies4313
@john-paulgies4313 12 күн бұрын
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