7 Gritty Reboots That Were Trying Too Hard

[@beholdnonsense5100]

If you think about it, Outside Xtra is like a gritty reboot of Outside Xbox, except when they were writing down the concept for it, they accidentally mistook "morbid" for "adorbs" or something.

[@pcport2698]

Too accurate.

[@coyoteone6197]

It's like a gritty de-boot. Like back in the 80s when they made a kid's cartoon out of "Rambo", a film series about a traumatized veteran who embodied the national scars of the Vietnam War. Fun, kids!

[@piyam5000]

So many adult/teen movies got the cartoon treatment :/

[@KerwinmusicNL]

Hmmm, with Oxtra's love of cats, someone probably misread Gritty Reboot as Kitty Reboot.

[@murphythelatecomer4608]

Eh, I think it’s more like a lighter and softer spin-off that actually winds up being just good as the original show.

[@SwordSaint892]

I love how Jane can't say "I'm too cool for this" with a straight face.

[@eoghanfeighery7383]

And the shades. 😎

[@timothymclean]

My favorite gritty reboot was Sandpaper. Previously only good for taking notes, now a vital part of every carpentry project I've taken on.

[@timothymurauzi5144]

Fellow Timothy Hi.. lol :)

[@squiddymcsquidface3097]

Well done. I give you a single clap. Just one.

[@delpantion6045]

Timothy McLean but that "gritty" reboot worked perfectly!!!! People like me who actually work with their hands love sand paper a thousand times more than the original

[@carrickschwartz5503]

You sir have earned my like

[@callumjapp544]

Brilliant lmfao

[@gideonavery3677]

Jane is so cool, i need to start living by her and Yoda's teachings, "There is no try"

[@300Drizzt]

Jane trying not to laugh while ‘being cool’ was surprisingly cute

[@xXChaoticRavenXx]

Just like spore

[@TheIronMask1954]

jane is always cute

[@300Drizzt]

OwnedTribe Obviously

[@warandpoetry9542]

I can't wait for the OutsideXbox gritty reboot. It's basically the same except everyone's wearing fingerless gloves.

[@TheUltrasora]

Bailey Alexis Snow dont forget black eyeliner.

[@beholdnonsense5100]

TheUltrasora so if the Ox studio was taken over by Evil Luke and his pals? I'd watch that.

[@jacobgame2757]

Think the gritty reboot already happened with Oxtra being created. Just didn't work out as they turned out to be super cute, although Jigglypuff still haunts my dreams.

[@sheolcodemonkey4027]

Petition to get an OutsideXbox gritty reboot, OutlawXbox needs to be a thing, with fingerless gloves and shades and ripped clothes and uncensored swearing

[@joed3436]

Well we all know it definitely isn't Outside Xtra. Those two could probably manage to be cheerful in a house fire.

[@rashkavar]

To be fair to Warrior Within, from a pure gameplay standpoint, it was the best of the Sands of Time trilogy. More varied and less grindy combat than the first game, less Vizir Butterfly puzzle bosses than the last game. Large areas to explore with a focus on learning the areas instead of just passing through once. The Dahaka chases that have you racking your brains at times to figure out how to platform your way out while running from one of the more alarming creatures in gaming at the time. Also, from a story perspective, I liked the idea that the Empress of Time was creating the Sands of Time in hopes of finding a way to not get murdered by the guy who wants to kill her to stop her from creating the Sands of Time. Tragic irony is fun!

[@mar_speedman]

It all just proves that violence isn't the answer lol

[@84Yeratel]

yeah, I don't really think Warrior Within fit in this list tbh...

[@gur262]

Not in my mind. Liked the 3rd best. Nice balance. Missed the bright feel and the nice palace in the second.

[@Rattchen]

From my perspective, Warrior Within was the best game of the three. It had a compelling story, the best combat mechanics, puzzles in nearly every room and the tone that was never replicated in any of the POP games so far. I also liked The Two Thrones, due to similar combat mechanics but still, I deem Warrior Within to be the superior one.

[@t.jockel25]

i totally agree. I played it several times with total joy, but as more dissapointed i was from the 3 PoP. But still played it heaps coz fanboy :3

[@A.Tag90]

Oh man, Mike is so cool that he forgot to care about coming in to work.

[@johngervais230]

Say what you will about The Legend of Spyro, but you have to admit, Cynder, both corrupted and free, is a pretty cool character. From her design, to her backstory, to her abilities, she is an amazingly underrated character.

[@Wandergirl108]

Agreed, 100%! Also I personally don't think TLoS is all that gritty. Maybe the story is actually supposed to be taken seriously, unlike the originals, but it's still colorful and magical, and honestly, a story that's supposed to be taken seriously isn't a bad thing.

[@hetalianotaku7103]

@@Wandergirl108 As someone who grew up with the originals, I got the first TLOS game when I was 12/13, I was willing to give it a chance, and even then I thought it played repetitively and thought it was trying too hard. It's fine if you like it, but there's a reason it's divided the fanbase. Plus Spyro's redesign was a bit of a turn-off.

[@michaw.2168]

I didn't even know there was a dark sequel spyro 😳😳 maybe they bring it back with better handling

[@yoda908]

I was kinda split on the LOS series with growing up with the original trilogy. The original is remembered more also because of how world engaging the levels were. It had skateboarding, underwater racing, boxing against a yeti and even hockey just to name a few. What I didn't like was when Spyro became a gimmick in the skylander series.

[@kosmosstormstrike3438]

I also agree with this statement, she is extremely underrated, what really ruined spyro for me was when he was put into skylanders like my lord he and cynder looked ugly in that

[@honeyroastridgman4301]

NOOOOOO! Cool Jane has too much power!! There isn't supposed to be this much cool in the universe at any one time!

[@honeyroastridgman4301]

Kain Beamsley they always said that heat death would be the end of the universe. And Jane is sufficiently cool to warren that

[@Raven1024]

Warrior Within was actually my favorite of the Sands of Time trilogy. Also it wasn't a reboot at all, it was just a sequel.

[@blue-pi2kt]

Likewise. It was a rare case of a game series changing direction and getting better.

[@joevenespineli6389]

@@blue-pi2kt well gameplay wise perhaps.

[@donovanfaust3227]

Yes it's a direct sequel but it is also a soft reboot, set in the same universe but style and tone completely changed. Similar to Batman Forever, Jurassic World, or Mad Max Fury Road.

[@debroizem]

Janes' cool factor has tripled! Someone get Bud Fensler on the phone for her own gritty spin off!

[@mattball8622]

Matthew de Broize She split that Goblin's head like a ripe tomato. That was her bitty spin off.

[@SithCats]

"Permanent scowl, too much eyeliner - Your Highness, we've all been through that phase." Wait - goth Jane was a thing that happened? Does photo or video evidence exist? That would be something to witness.

[@premiumheadpats4150]

That is a very good question.

[@thomaskhan2933]

I believe Goth Jane is just Prudence

[@hazemalagha]

Can Oxbox get a gritty reboot ? Like, Mike could be a post apocalyptic paladin dragon thing , Andy a cool cowboy and Jane , well she just needs to throw away her mortal disguise . Simple

[@tba113]

DoomedAssassin 132 That's what OutsideXtra is for. Sure, they may look light and cheerful, but there's a darkness behind that channel.

[@heathperceval4387]

Oxbox is the gritty reboots

[@Chris_Sizemore]

I'm a bit confused. You want Mike to be a highly moral lizard mutant, Andy to be a cowboy Popsicle, and Jane to be a zombie? So, Fallout 3 all over again?

[@jacobgame2757]

tba113 Jiggilypuff, Jiggilypuff.

[@samdilks9516]

should also have luke as the hulk with a guitar and ellen as a wood-dwelling magician with a hatred of technology

[@edrichlouw1790]

The 2000’s were edgy as hell...then we got twilight. Not exactly sure how to feel about it.

[@HappyBirddi]

I mean we also got the fic My Immortal and Forbiden Fruit out of the 2000s so it's not all bad

[@andymcp4752]

If this video was made in 2002 it would have been '7 most radical reboots' also i would be watching it tomorrow after leaving quick time to load it overnight

[@Jambobist]

Pfft, Quicktime, everyone's on RealPlayer now, get with it grandad.

[@glassphoenix9095]

if this video was made in 2002 you wouldnt be watching it because youtube didnt exist until 2005

[@hamstsorkxxor]

grimdarkpixels You are aware that there were multiple video sharing sites long before KZbin? KZbin is just the one that did to all others what Facebook did to MySpace, aka killed them.

[@kyriss12]

and god forbid you get a phone call, and have to restart the download after you dial up connection is dropped.

[@hamstsorkxxor]

STORI-01 I think you will find that the original comment used the word "radical" in its correct meaning and in proper context. Also, just so you know the word is still in use in that (correct) form. Example: when they talk about "radical" terrorists on the news, that does not mean that the terrorists are rad skaters, performing sick kick-flips and whatnot. /snark

[@GMdelsXT9]

DmC: Devil May Cry forgot that. Right?

[@aidangordon2713]

This. This oh-so-*fucking*-much.

[@sinistraartsinis8808]

Lets not talk about that unholy dumbsterfire...

[@gothnerd887]

I don't think it technically counts since it tried to scrub Devil May Cry of all it's goth points instead of adding more

[@savvysnake7711]

Suprised at no mention of DMC reboot. Seems ideal for this list.

[@robertjoasilus5230]

I think the reboot was less dark and gritty

[@savvysnake7711]

Robert Joasilus Perhaps I'm thinking edgy more than gritty what with the f bombs and sexual themes.

[@robertjoasilus5230]

Savvy Snake well i guess you're right.

[@mgk-metalgearkelly5054]

Because it was good. I think it's the best DMC.

[@edude_127]

Midsummer Knight Not the best, but it was a great game.

[@GameRaider3223]

“Permenent scowl and too much eyeliner” and Jane said we’ve all been there?! I would pay good money to see that.

[@WickedRibbon]

It's never been so easy to brush off the spoiler-warning list. What a bunch of clunkers.

[@TheUltrasora]

WickedRibbon these are super old though.

[@memebot6490]

Warrior Within was decent

[@Eunostos]

Let's just pretend it's a reboot so we can repress the very idea of it being part of Mechner's continuity.

[@mbrillon765]

@@Eunostos But it was better and didn't do anything that hurt the story

[@URBACKFAT]

Hold up are you telling me Spore got a sequel.

[@klony1280]

URBACKFAT thought the exact same thing. And then 'awww... What?' when they said you can't play it anymore.

[@Grigeral]

The game was also inherently flawed in that it flagged the mission as complete when done, so you couldn't replay the missions. At all. So it was basically a game you could play once.

[@lumen8341]

It was so shitty that I was gifted it on Steam and it was shut down before I got around to playing it. D:

[@scottylewis8124]

Mandy C. The game was garbage anyway.

[@dragonlordthekingofdragons6373]

@@lumen8341 Wow

[@Gggly2513]

“You tried your best, and you failed miserably. The lesson is: Never try” -Homer Simpson

[@robertjoasilus5230]

theres something about jane that's so cool.

[@Jambobist]

Is it the sunglasses? It's the sunglasses.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

Jam Dev nah, it's that lil wascally wabbit. Everyone knows Watership down is.... what are the kids saying nowadays? Nightcore? Where it is at? Ah, sod it. I am 30ish.

[@fimbulventr522]

I still liked The Legend of Spyro series. Pretty, fun to play, good music, and I can't imagine Spyro sounding like anyone other then Elijah Wood now.

[@MmeCShadow]

Psst, guys...? ...Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't a reboot. It was just a weird spinoff. (Also, some kind of irony for saying 'if you weren't thinking that, you must not have worked at SEGA'. Shadow the Hedgehog was made in response to fans demanding a 'darker and edgier' Sonic game where Sonic 'had a gun'. You can actually, legitimately blame fans for the fact that Shadow the Hedgehog, the game, exists-- and that the character survived Sonic Adventure 2. He was actually supposed to die at the end of the game, but fan outcry caused Sonic Team to find a way to un-kill him. Oh yeah also Sonic Adventure 2 originally intended to straight-up kill a character by hurling him through the void of space and burning him to death atmospheric re-entry, after his backstory was all about getting vengeance on humanity for murdering a sick ten-year-old in a hail of gunfire because she sacrificed herself to get him to safety. The whole Sonic Adventure series was the franchise's gritty reboot, really.)

[@TurtleDragonSilent]

But Sonic Heroes already unkilled him.

[@isabeltheacegal3384]

Chaos Shadow RIGHT!!!

[@everythingyoucantouchandse6786]

wasnt shadow the hedgehog cannon though? like i know its a spinoff but the game still affects the overall story right?

[@icemonitorlizard]

Shadow the hedgehog was riding on the hype from the best sonic game; sonic adventure 2 battle. So no it wasn't a reboot. It was, however, one of the first in the long list of mistakes Sega has tried to pass for sonic games since.

[@apurpledragon]

Looking past the cheesy lines in Adventure 2, Shadow's baclstory is quiet tragic and sad.

[@timedragon5492]

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GRITTY REBOOTS?! DmC: Devil May Cry TRIED SO FREAKING HARD IT WAS EMBARRASSING!

[@silverrider99]

Time Dragon seriously it tried so hard yet failed miserably especially since Devil may cry never needed a reboot in the first place! Thank god for Devil may cry 5.

[@ashtherion]

What if Jane's secret plan to take over the world all along was to just be so cool that we'd all willingly slave after her every order to win even a second's worth of approval? **removes sunglasses** My gods, she's already won...

[@IamaPERSON]

ashtherion Mother of God...

[@sampeters5589]

This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a meh.

[@icemonitorlizard]

Winter is coming.

[@Konpekikaminari]

Gotta say, Legend of Spyro was epic Especially the last game, after all these years, we got free-flight Edit: I did NOT know Spore got a dark, diabolo-esque reboot, and I am glad I did not find out until after it died

[@isupergirl]

"Andy say things while I point at them." Man, Jane is so cool.

[@Shadowslash1]

Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't even a reboot, but putting that aside its one of my favorite games. Sega took a hell of a risk on that one, so many ways to play it and each path holds a piece of the puzzle of who Shadow is. It made me like him more and understand him, he just does whatever he feels he has to get what he wants.

[@zatumk]

jane is all of us

[@lordilluminati5836]

lies, nobody is as cool as jane

[@vgm_29]

You: "Motorboats on skateboards" Me to my friends: "Hey guys I have a great idea..." Me and my friends 3 days later: "Why the hell did we build that?"

[@TempestFox]

Shadow the hedgehog was actually a spin of because some younger fans requested that sega gave sonic a gun, sega believed that sonics character was too positive for a gun so they created shadow the hedgehog as a spin off and gave him a gun to please the fans that requested it.

[@Vergil21a]

Prince of Persia: Warrior Within is a direct sequel, not a reboot... Also I like that game, it was good; also it had Godsmack in its soundtrack.

[@HalfBreedMix]

Yup, when I started hearing "I Stand Alone" playing in the background; every character on the screen knew it was about to go down >:-)

[@Ale-mv3gr]

I like godsmack, but I dont think most people would consider it a good thing.

[@GabrielGamingAtYt]

its a reboot on theme, the first game was preety light hearted but then the sequel became this dark game

[@thecastawaydc]

That Jane Douglas is just too cool!

[@cribb]

I've gotta say, I think "phallus through the looking glass" is my favorite pun that you guys have done.

[@tmb11212]

Uh guys, Shadow is a spinoff, not a reboot.

[@jakitron890]

Legend of Spyro a New Begining was my childhood

[@benford1726]

Jane's so cool 😎

[@beelzebubhasagun7940]

Ben Ford no

[@Mathijsss247]

I only have fond memories of PoP: Warrior Within. Easily my favorite PoP game.

[@jordanmoores2654]

Jane that was the coolest intro I've ever seen! Sign my leather jacket, sunglasses and gel backed hair?

[@th1anonly309]

Jordan Moores mine too please

[@brainnjnnn]

I love the lists, and the theme; but, uhm, Prince of Persia was a sequel, not a reboot. And, Shadow the Hedgehog was just a separate game in the Sonic Universe, also not really a reboot....

[@Gadgitmin]

Thank you, it’s good to see we have a real sonic fan.

[@CabooseRvb509]

Trying too hard? I always thought that Shadow the Hedgehog was a subtle parody. 'This is easier than taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me!' 'No, Shadow, I AM your father!' 'DAMN, not here' 'Now Doctor, you're going straight to hell!' I mean, Sean Schemmel voiced the evil bad guy. Kamehameha, Shadow...

[@SleuthCriminalGaming]

I actually love Warrior Within and i think its the best of the whole series. Didnt really like Sands of time. That mechanic where you have to stab every enemy to really finish'em off was so freakn annoying. Two Thrones was also a great game... would put it on the same quality level as Warrior Within.

[@hannahmae676]

Jane is too cool.. it's too much... I've spontaneously combusted 🔥🔥🔥it's too much coolness... Yes the irony.. 🔥

[@ElementalLeaf]

As a 90s kid, I appreciated the dark and gritty reboot for Shadow....it appeared just as I was hitting my teenage years and gave me a way to channel that inner brood that came with the territory of being a teenager in the myspace era. The opening definitely found itself on my Sansa.

[@Tragedy01xx]

Shadows badass! Ima 90s kid too and never understood the hate for shadow!

[@Chourtaird1]

I actually kinda like the Legend of Spyro trilogy (especially Dawn of the Dragon). Should the semi-confirmed remaster (or remake?) succeed I wouldn't be against an HD port of the Legend of Spyro trilogy.

[@CyberneticHusky]

Chourtaird1 I would buy that hands down

[@rheawolf3439]

The way Jane just baby yeets the control... freakin hilarious!

[@DiscordN7]

I actually enjoyed the legend of Spyro trilogy some really fun gameplay, overall good voice acting, an epic fantasy story sooooo...I actually prefer these Spyro games and wish they were remaking them than the older ones

[@kosmosstormstrike3438]

Same

[@varunchaturvedi2581]

"More overblown than a house of cards in a hurricane."

[@sivert42]

Jane is so cool.

[@maydubz1471]

Okay, let's Add "Cool Jane" to the list of Ox Persona's- oh wait, she's Always been Cool :P

[@StephenFlagg01]

A Reboot means discarding all continuity in an established series in order to recreate its characters, timeline and backstory from the beginning. Shadow the Hedgehog is a spin-off; not a reboot.

[@princeevilregal8209]

Wow, Jane is SOOOOOO cool! :P And Andy is SOOOOOO gritty! XD

[@delpantion6045]

So that's Jane's Secret!!! No wonder she's so cool all the time!....... And no wonder she makes the majority of the outtakes in the end year videos{~`, so cool

[@SHARDK2]

The Legend of Spyro series is actually super fucking awesome. Even if it's a bit darker, A New Beginning is really a great story and game. The Eternal Night is obviously even darker but stupidly engaging. Third game in the series was okay, I guess.

[@junko4166]

I've got to say, arriving early in a video without anything creative to comment is extremely frustrating.

[@justinthompson6364]

Agreed. I always feel pressured to think of something witty.

[@ollies2000]

POP2: Warrior Within was an amazing game though! The two timelines on the island were brilliant. Still one of my favourite games to date. All the scenes with the Dhaka were sooooo cool.

[@IceHeartAlpha]

I liked the legend of spyro a new beginning saga tho Skylanders was the bad one imo

[@yoshi24800]

Skylanders isn't even a Spyro game, we need more Spyro games

[@ARKumalarkey]

I actually loved Prince of Persia Warrior Within. That may have had something to do with me getting it as a free game on my new PS2 though...

[@HalfBreedMix]

...........or perhaps the game's tone was way more in keeping with the theme of the game ?????

[@yastaav]

You'll forgot to mention Smash Blue Whale and his Dark Souls variant.

[@alexsvetlichnyy2283]

"Seeing and catching are two different things big boy" - best line in any video game ever

[@Loanderson8]

Jak and daxter had a gritty reboot as well. In jak 2 main protagonist jak's the first words that jak ever says is, "im going to kill praxton."

[@ballz8014]

darksoul yeah but at least jak 2 was good

[@austinslaughter319]

Yeah but that actually worked.

[@TwistedMe13]

While darker and edgier (TvTropes is your friend) than the first game, it is not reboot as it a canonical sequel like PoPWW) and the IP did not lie fallow for a decade or so.

[@VisualGourmet]

*I never Warrior Within were cool, nor that it tried to. It was meant to be gritty. After everything the prince went through in Sands of Time he was bound to become grim and moody - it just made sense.*

[@humgrillo]

Jane doesn't seem really sorry for bombermen...

[@meowdynyall9284]

I am only just now finding out that Spore had a sequel, and I’m already disappointed that EA made it a dungeon crawler of all things. The original Spore had so much potential, and just because it had a lot of flaws didn’t mean they couldn’t be learned from to make a really good game, instead of abandoning the concept altogether.

[@CaitlinRC]

Anything with Shadow The Hedgehog in it, is probably trying too hard. Case in point, the Team Shadow run in Sonic Heroes.

[@pcport2698]

I find it amusing that this comment is the first CaitlinRC comment on an OXbox/OXtra video to not be at the top, given the topic of "trying too hard"

[@elliottwatt5297]

If I remember right they’re literally called team dark, because subtlety.

[@Jill4ChrisRedfeild]

Yeah but then you have THAT DAMN CROCODILE IN TEAM SONIC

[@CaitlinRC]

That's quite funny actually aha. I never try to be on top though >_

[@kstephenson5857]

Sonic Heroes was amazing tho, so I can't be too critical of Shadow

[@369destroyer]

I kinda liked the Legend of Spyro series, but the original trilogy will always be the best

[@nickjeffery536]

So when is the Oxbox gritty reboot? Jane as a leather-clad biker gal, Mike as the grizzled veteran cop, and Andy as the ex-Marine who has seen too much...

[@normalhuman9878]

I remember when my dad got a Sonic game and I managed to convince my little brother that Knuckles was actually Shadow

[@mgk-metalgearkelly5054]

Hey! Warrior Within is the best Prince of Persia game ever, period.

[@jackercooper4078]

agreed

[@mgk-metalgearkelly5054]

Cam Well, not every country on the planet. You'll get laughed off my country if you ever say any PoP game is better than Warrior Within. And Two Thrones is the worst, according to everyone here (including me).

[@KaiserHabsburg]

OMG shadow the hedgehog was AWESOME ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

[@vincenttickle8984]

Yas

[@connormurray5526]

God Jane looked cool not trying to present a KZbin video I’m gonna try that in my job as a train driver

[@moralityisnotsubjective5]

So Spyro just never noticed that he was several times larger than any of his relatives? Hilarious.

[@nummy_nummers]

Tomb Raider's become a bit too dark and gritty. Gone are the simple days of shutting your butler in the freezer and wandering through ruins occasionally blasting the heads off endangered animals: now it's all sneaking round camps of trigger happy dudes with automatic rifles and nightmare fuel close-quarters freaky corpse ankle grabs. Times has changed.

[@hetalianotaku7103]

Tell me about it. Not to mention the puzzles are much easier and Lara falls down all the time.

[@tani7895]

I loved the Legend of Spyro games! They were amazing and I played them for a very long time as a kid. (And they were my first Spyro games after all.)

[@phoemix7043]

As soon as I saw Shadow in the thumbnail, I KNEW this was gonna get edgy!

[@Team_BaM]

Alone in the Dark did one thing I thought was really cool. Every time you loaded your game it did a "Last Time on Alone in the Dark" style loading screen inspired by drama series.

[@Bluemaverick11]

I loved the whole that prince of Persia trilogy. Worked my butt off to get the good ending.

[@thepopeofatheism]

Umbra pressure is the best pun I've seen in weeks. Top class punsmanship, OxBox.

[@thomas-stilinski8149]

So you mean to tell me that the dragonflies had to tell him he wasn’t related to them?

[@simonbriggs203]

Lots of people are saying it in the comments, and I'll say it too. The Legend of Spyro was my jam back when I first bought and played Dawn of the Dragon (before any of the other two). People are still to this day ignoring the fact that he used the “puny god” move four years before it was cool, and used a chain to prevent split-screen and provide cool gameplay features in single player and coop which would be later evolved in Astral Chain (makes me want to play Dawn of the Dragon again due to that vibe). Not to mention it had great music, and in Dawn of the Dragon it spared us the embarassment of falling to our deaths every few minutes despite having wings meant for flying. When you consider it the bosses in the franchise went from a coward who would only run from you and took two hits to defeat to a hoard of rock and lava giants and a dragon version of Ganondorf. Not to mention Cynder who became a fan-favorite people are asking for in a sequel to the Reignited Trilogy to replace Enter the Dragonfly and anything after it. Though not perfect due to time and budget restraints for all three games, it was still great for what it was for new and returning audiences who felt it was fair that Spyro would only grow up with its audience. Thanks to reignited I'm glad I finally know what made him special in his classics, I will always love both of those trilogies, and I hope the Legend of Spyro at least gets considered for the same treatment that the originals received. And need I mention that classic Spyro burns innocent sheep alive for his own benefit instead of buy armour so he doesn't have to? It's pretty dark when you think about it that way. Does that make both of them gritty?

[@musicf3b]

Outside Xtra is the grittiest of reboots...(looks at Labo video thumbnail)...yep gritty af.

[@gothnerd887]

8:35 M&S advert voiceover: This isn't just an early 2000s goth makeover, this is an early 2000s cybergoth makeover.

[@maxernium]

I almost forgot Shadow was a thing, he's hilariously edgy and I love it

[@MR-vz7ro]

Honestly really surprised that DMC wasn't on this list. It went from a witty, charismatic, and really cool main character who; yes, lost his family, but seeks to get his revenge through helping people deal with their demonic problems. To a dark and gritty world where demons rule and cause the world to sin through media and the only one who can stop them is an edge lord nephilim, who doesn't care about anyone else other than himself until way later in the game. That is the perfect example for this list.

[@lewiscarrol6193]

Prince of Persia Warrior Within was the best game in the series, what the hell are you talking about?

[@HalfBreedMix]

They are talking about a game they most likely never played. After playing PoPWW, all the other games in the series seemed weak by comparison. When Godsmack was playing in the background, you felt like a total beast; but then when the Dahaka was after you, it was time to run like a scared b!tch,,,,,,,,,,,,and that switch-up made the game feel more realistic and involving.

[@TheDeanglen]

I actually like Shadow the Hedgehog. I will freely admit that the controls were touchy and the plot, depending on your choices in the game, could be disjointed and hard to follow sometimes, but the concept was amazing and I wish Sega would make a sequel to it that improves on the choice based storyline progression and gives it more polished controls. I played the game for months making sure I unlocked all the possible endings and the true ending

[@llawliet9256]

Wait. If you use the sands of time to stop the sands of time being created, then you wouldn't of had the sands to go back and stop the sands being created. So the sands would be created any way.

[@makalasiner7149]

Fun Fact Shadow the Hedgehog was suppose to be Sonic’s fatherly mentor like figure. But decided to be the emo rival. Like Knuckles wasn’t enough. I do love all Sonic characters. Just still wanted to see that.

[@AikawaJin]

The Legend Of Spyro trilogy was actually pretty good imo

[@jongofett]

It's not a reboot (which makes the tonal shift even more jarring), but Jak 2 was so much darker than Jak & Daxter. Where the first game was more like a Super Mario 64-style game, the second one opens with Jak being experimented on, gaining dark eco powers, his first-ever words being his proclamation of his intention to murder the leader of a city, a Grand Theft Auto-like open world, and the very liberal use of many types of futuristic guns.

[@DragoSonicMile]

Legend of Spyro's on this list? Them's fightin' words.

[@ColorlessQueen]

A new beginning for the gamecube was the first spyro game i ever played, i loved it!

[@jakethepillager1682]

heyheyheyhey prince of persia didint need to try to be cool IT IS COOL

[@YDgy772]

But...I thought that one of the cardinal rules of coolness (other than the fact that coolness follows NO rules) is that if there is even a QUESTION of trying, said entity is, in fact, NOT cool....

[@msm3150]

Say what you will about Warrior Within's drastic tone shift. It remains the PoP with the tightest platforming, best puzzles, and deepest combat system. And, well, Two Thrones basically retconned the whole edgy prince, while Forgotten Sands at least explained what caused it during the time skip

[@devin8367]

I liked the legend of spyro, but I was young so it may be nostalgia bias

[@Blueblaze25]

Devin West I like the original and the legend series

[@devin8367]

Nightfury 1507 Yeah the original were amazing some of my favorite games. I so hope the rumors of the original trilogy remaster on kotaku are true and the remaster comes out later this year

[@onefeatherboi2342]

The legend of Spyro series was my favorite of the 3 versions, still hoping that Skylanders will crash and we can go back.

[@gangstapuppy340]

Devin West Same. A new beginning was my favorite Spyro game.

[@K4RN4GE911]

I grew up playing the second and third from the original trilogy and absolutely loved them. When the Legend series came out, I was around fourteen years old, so it seemed like the most natural progression, with Dawn of the Dragon being my favorite of the trilogy. Not too keen on Skylanders design for Spyro, but I hear that it keeps him relevant enough for an original trilogy revamp like what Crash got.

[@supermariof0521]

One griddy reboot that had ZERO business existing is "The Banana Splits Movie".

[@captainzac24]

Jane tries to make an ironic joke about not trying to be cool, which is secretly trying rendering her uncool but is cool anyway cos it's Jane and yet again the universe is put in jeopardy by outside xbox's meta tomfoolery. Dam it when will you learn!

[@davidsprod529]

Jane has me weak “yup science checks out”