7 Superheroes Betrayed By Their Own Crappy Game

[@outsidextra]

These superheroes all deserve so much better... *sigh*

[@MSGaddicts]

Catwoman a super hero??

[@maxvel0city906]

Hang on, Ellen didn't make a "it's a bit of a Thor point" joke in the Thor game section. Where is Ellen and what have you done with her? Jane I'm looking at you!👀

[@coffeeaddict9605]

I'm glad Ellen feels the same way I do about the Daredevil movie. But...can we get her idea for a Daredevil game to happen? Please?

[@soft_butter4629]

What about the X-men? I’m sure at least one of the X-men video games could qualify for this list

[@slb797]

I actually liked the Affleck movie overall. Relatively decent portrayal of quite a few characters. I did particularly enjoy kingpin and bullseye. Cant have a good story without good villains!

[@esperderek5383]

Fair credit to that guy from the Spawn game who gets his armed ripped off, doesn't even blink, and comes at Spawn a second time. That's some guts.

[@drunkpunch7334]

No thats an arm, guts are somewhere else.

[@callumdonington2227]

Pretty gutsy to fight Spawn dis-armed.

[@zenthegeneral]

Tis only a flesh wound.

[@drunkpunch7334]

@@zenthegeneral A flesh wound? Your bloody arms off

[@apsmain6076]

@@zenthegeneral that monty python reference XD

[@coffeeaddict9605]

Hey look! That catwoman game has the running animation of me going up the stairs as a child. Edit: "The rude lube of Dr. Megaman" and various other names had me snickering more than it should.

[@chieffridge5588]

Which one

[@maxvel0city906]

I was thinking more prudence's spider climbing.

[@terrykarl7085]

The Boobtube of Dr Megalodon got me 😂

[@vacuumdiagram]

Reminded me of the 'Quantum of Solace' pisstake song!

[@Detritiviolet]

its me running up the stairs present day

[@rimurutempest4945]

Man hearing Ellen’s suggestions for a Daredevil game that incorporates not only his blind fighting escapades but also his law career made me so excited, and all the more disappointed considering if likely would never happen.

[@r.j.penfold]

I would 100% be intfinitely more interested in superheros if that were the case.

[@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224]

Ok so a blind phoenix wright

[@SpairM]

@@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 no A blind Phoenix Wright *with action*

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Sorry that still sounds like Phoenix Wright, you may call that action but I calll that as fun as listening to Benstein giving a time share speech, wow...no offense sounds boring Since most the time is dedicated to searching law books for relating precedence in a law career, now thats extra boring

[@SpairM]

@@jamesmeppler6375 I- I was making a, you might have heard of this, joke I know, it can be hard to understand but sometimes people aren’t asking for your opinion but are simply making a joke

[@knowjuansaid]

The ever changing title of captain America's title game had me chuckling. Well snuck in

[@nithin143ash]

Rude lube of dr megaman🤣🤣🤣

[@kevanmcentee2174]

It reminded me of Yahtzee's... verbal antics

[@sneaksyranger]

The game did not betray Catwoman. Patience or whatever her name is in the Halle Berry movie IS the betrayal.

[@magnatcleo2043]

That movie is the betrayal, the game is kicking Catwoman while she's down.

[@GriffinWolf]

What's with the hate? I quite like that movie. Or maybe I just like Halle Berry in a catsuit. It's hard to tell.

[@acesburned]

I beat that game it wasn't too difficult I think as soon as I realized it wasn't actually Selena Kyle I just stopped comparing it to the DC universe I mean I know DC was part of the production but by the time they were done with the movie and everything there really was no comparing it and I think a lot of the hate yes it was a bad movie but I think a lot of the hate comes from the idea of what it could have been instead of what it was

[@tsnap4]

Ellen gets cut off mid Daredevil rant. Me: No, let her talk.

[@scottylewis8124]

The editors were clearly secret fans of the film

[@thomaskhan2933]

Goddamn Ellen really pulled no punches on the Avengers game, respect

[@outsidextra]

I'm still mad about Shadow of the Tomb Raider - E

[@julianmarpez3931]

You're talking about this, right? 8:45

[@thomaskhan2933]

@@julianmarpez3931 Any time an avenger is mentioned really lol I don't remember the timestamps

[@Houldey]

@@outsidextra Same - Crystal Dynamics' work on tomb raider was fantastic, i'm still salty they were put on avongers instead of shadow of the tomb raider :(

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Don't forget Deus Ex: Mankind Divided's sequel. Still waiting on what happens before the events of the first Deus Ex.

[@jonathandavies1716]

They better not mess up the Plant Nutrition Boy game. He deserves only the very best.

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

Haa👍

[@mightybeastofbengal]

I heard he got crushed by Meat Boy

[@BenSKG]

Played the Masks ttrpg with some people from the outsidefanstra discord at the weekend, and I was legitimately gutted I couldn't figure out how to get plant nutrition boy to work in the system.

[@Mattno.777]

I heard it plays like a better Plants versus Zombies

[@boydrewboy741]

Plant nutrition boy? Is he the sidekick to Captain Novolin?

[@szbnahl]

In She-Hulk's defence, she's been an understudy member of the Fantastic Four on numerous occasions. It's like putting Deadpool in an X-Men game.

[@MetalTraveler]

Exactly. For example after the secret wars she was a member for a while.

[@MrBaldsoprano]

I'm glad someone else pointed this out. The nerd rage was strong in me...

[@MrBaldsoprano]

@@gsesquire3441 she's such a great character!

[@bostonrailfan2427]

she was a major part of the main team during the split team era and has bern their legal advisor since her creation…even when not out front, she has been one of them she’s like Spider-Man, a member but not a frequent member

[@shen-long9082]

It's like putting deadpool in an xmen game? She-hulk been an understudy member of FF? You're not a bright individual are you. These are "scripted" stories made & printed in a comic book to make kids buy 'em for monetary gain. Kids are entertained & then move on with their lifes as should u. Oohh wait.....ur not a bright individual so by all means carry on.

[@JA432123]

Fun fact in the late 80s She Hulk was a member of the Fantastic 4 while the Thing was doing his own deal

[@AJadedLizard]

I mean, Thing was running with the Guardians of the Galaxy last time I looked, so I guess he still kinda does that.

[@davidjones3165]

The shield?

[@devlinburgess2463]

"Also, She-Hulk is there, for some reason." Shulkie's there because she threatened to tear up all the developers comics if they didn't let her in. Though if they wanted an accurate depiction of her, they should have let her get halfway through the game before getting unceremoniously cancelled. Look, being a She-Hulk fan is hard, just let her have this.

[@darrenbarlow1826]

At least she's finally joining MCU, im still hoping Squirrel Girl appears \they show the New Warriors pilot

[@thanotosomega]

She has also actually been a member of the team before, and if the games from the 90s it may well have come out while she and not Ben was in the books,

[@darrenbarlow1826]

Joined after Secret War, the first one. Considering how many members there actually had, they could fill out a Lego games roster themselves

[@reinerskye9328]

Also she is a regular fill in member, Usually when for some reason the Thing is unavilable.

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

You have predicted the future, sadly.

[@tuxedotservo]

Small nitpick: The Halle Berry "Catwoman" wasn't Selina Kyle - her name in the movie (and, I'd assume, the tie-in game) was Patience Phillips So Selina and her reputation were spared the horror of being associated with that movie/game.

[@shadowcat1606]

Not really, because details like those don't matter to the broader public. They just see that the title is "Catwoman" and will think the movie is about THE Catwoman.

[@Hellwyck]

@@shadowcat1606 Like people assuming 007 is one man and blow a gasket when the actor's changed. 007 is a callsign, not a person.

[@DeathsjesterKMNP]

@@Hellwyck Wrong. So much wrong in one comment.

[@FirebladesSong]

@@DeathsjesterKMNP Movie canon vs book canon.

[@avathequeen14]

@@shadowcat1606Fair, I do think its funny that Ellen calls her Selina over the clip that very clearly says her name is Patience lol.

[@seraphonica]

"Which he could lose if he didn't pick them back up." I hated this mechanic as a kid, but now that I live on my own, I realize I crawled to pick up vibranium shields so I could walk to pick up mugs of cold tea.

[@infern0711]

Can we get a whole video of Ellen’s breakdown of the Daredevil movie? That would be amazing!

[@RandyRivers2]

She-Hulk was a member of the Fantastic 4 for a bit after Thing lost his powers. So her being in a FF game still makes sense. Game still sucks though...

[@kraziiXIII]

She-Hulk is in Final Fantasy?!?! /s

[@DeAthWaGer]

@@kraziiXIII no, Fatal Fury. Pay attention!

[@TheBloodswordsman]

"She-Hulk you're up!" WEEEEeeeeEEEE!!!! SPLASH!!! I laughed so damn hard at that.

[@sambarnes6265]

Jokes on you, I AM particularly fond of seeing Aquaman get punched in the head by Crab person over and over.

[@lordsidius99]

Truly, being punched in the head repeatedly by a crab person is Aquaman's most rousing performance/appearance to date. I would absolutely watch a stand-alone Aquaman film that was just ~100 minutes of the King of Atlantis being punched in the head by crab people.

[@mikaroni_and_cheez]

CRABS RULE

[@oriolgonzalez9328]

So, I'm guessing the next video has to be "Ellen rants about the Daredevil movie for an hour", right?

[@thundercookie3214]

Surely that's the abridged version, though?

[@joenesvick7043]

Director's Cut is a vast improvement, maybe not the best adaption, but so much better than the theatrical version

[@polkarrty]

I'm personally still waiting for janes unabridged linguistics speech

[@stryph42]

@@thundercookie3214 Only because they had to cut the profanity. So many swears...

[@kevanmcentee2174]

I'd watch that

[@rosskwolfe]

It's telling that so many of these are movie tie-ins.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

At least X-Men Origins: Wolverine is way better than its movie counterpart. And then there's the tie-ins for the first two Spider-Mam movies by Sam Raimi, The Punisher 2004, and Batman Begins.

[@Razuki5]

One of the worst movie games I’ve played ever was wreck-it Ralph. You literally had dozens of game genres in the movie to base it off of. But instead we get a game that looks like it was made in 30 minutes.

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

There's no excuse for Superman 64 or aquaman's video game

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@Razuki5 Yikes.

[@NinjaKIngAce]

Yeah, it's almost like hiring some no-name developer, paying them a piss poor budget, and giving them less then a year to make a game, based on a movie that's not even out yet, is a bed idea

[@basian7365]

12:02 ... i can already hear Edna screaming from the top of her lungs "NO CAPES!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@alhena11]

"Graphics by an artist friend." Another reason to distinctly differentiate between work and private time.

[@themayhemofmadness7038]

I had to pause the video at this point (as I am an artist myself) and yelled at my TV "ARTISTS ARE REAL PEOPLE!!!!!!" My son asked me if I needed a hug. ... I said yes.

[@lnsflare1]

I choose to believe that the artist asked to not be credited in that particular example.

[@alhena11]

@@themayhemofmadness7038 I very much support artists and see them as valuable, so please take no offence. It's just that situation just screams at me with the "why should we hire a genuine artist when my art friend cn do that for me" situation. :D Artists are the ones quite vulnerable to this type of "abuse" from family and friends. And let's be honest, do we believe that specific "artist friend" got properly payed? :D

[@themayhemofmadness7038]

@@alhena11 Believe me, I agree. I take absolutely NO offense. Too often I have had people come to me and ask me to do work for them without pay and/or credit. It’s like some people think artists don’t need to be paid because, what?, we don’t need to eat? We don’t need to pay rent? What’s worse is that a lot of the people who wanted me to do work for them for free, were the same people that were telling me I need to charge higher rates for my work (I charged $10-15 an hour plus supplies), because I was so skilled. They just didn’t want me charging THEM. 😂 So when I saw your comment it lifted my spirits. It was like “YES! Someone UNDERSTANDS!!!!”

[@JachAnen]

@@lnsflare1 I thought the same, because well, look at it? Who would want credit??

[@maxvel0city906]

Luke: don't worry about the spoilers, you won't want to play these games anyway. Me: Well Luke you don't know that do you? Also me: watches this video and comes to the conclusion that I don't want to play any of these games. Touche Luke.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

There are two types of games: games so good spoiling them would ruin experiences, and games so bad spoiling them is a blessing to almost all of us.

[@andymcp4752]

Couldn’t help but laugh at those brutally slow fades between the Aquaman cutscene panels Just imagining that poor exhausted trumpet player filling the dead air Or water I guess

[@piercedsiren]

It looks like comics I'd make at age 10 from screenshots of video game on paint.

[@TransmitHim]

It's also impressive that no-one thought to learn how to do comic book lettering so they could position the words in the balloons properly.

[@AlysonMc]

"Doom tube" has just... so many joke possibilities...

[@knowjuansaid]

Rude lube

[@AlysonMc]

@@knowjuansaid I'm getting college flashbacks...

[@hunternelson2918]

@@knowjuansaid boob tube

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Like what? Nothing im coming up with is funny.

[@z-3to204]

X2: Wolverines Revenge. Where Wolverine tippy toed around killing guards, couldn't heal if his claws were out, and basically found his way around by sniffing enemies farts.

[@slinkbradshaw8674]

The fact that poor Jenneifer Hale was dragged into that awful Catwoman game. Hope that check was worth it Shepherd

[@scottylewis8124]

Really? You think she'd Know better!

[@philiphunn194]

@@scottylewis8124 Well, she did voice Vanessa Z Schneider in the GameCube exclusive P.N.03, so probably not...

[@clarienne7583]

I'm not going to blame voice actors for accepting a paycheck. Work is work, and everyone's gotta eat🤷🏼‍♀️ Christopher Lee famously wasn't picky about the movie roles he accepted, just the stupidity of the lines he was willing to articulate.

[@ThatIckyGuy]

The line about Catwoman crawling around like Samara became a dominatrix really got me. That's such a great comparison.

[@jessicastrike5640]

Ellen throws such shade at the Avengers game and I am here for it

[@AlmightyPolarBear]

Cause we all know that the true good game with Thor is "God of War".

[@kosaba11]

Marvel's Avengers isn't even a bad game. Sure, it can get repetitive, but you can say that for literally every game in existence. But it's still fun to play.

[@deathbykonami5487]

@@kosaba11 Don't bother explaining to the uncultured swine, they'll never understand

[@zairephenom1435]

@@deathbykonami5487 But still no one cares what you say

[@iamsatire2883]

I’m surprised they even decided to make a game based off of the catwoman movie

[@outsidextra]

Around that time it seemed like every action/hero movie had a tie-in game. Technically Catwoman had TWO. From reviews it seems the Game Boy Advance version was marginally less terrible. - E

[@indivian164]

This was before the time of micro transactions. The only way to make money with the same minimal effort was to flood the market with games someone might pick up. Any excuse to make a 'game' was used.

[@marhawkman303]

@@indivian164 ah yes, the days of "shovel ware". a lot of it was more like reskins than proper games. IE the studio had a game enigine and they used it to tell a different story about a different character.

[@callumdonington2227]

The early to mid 2000s were a dark, lawless time.

[@SarahStar246]

Theres a Shark Tale video game tie in

[@l0stndamned]

The phrase "looking like if the girl from the Ring decided to become a dominatrix" amused me far too much. The reason they included She-hulk in that F4 game is because she was part of the team when the Thing was either depowered or comic-dead (I can't remember which)

[@dwighttheislander7369]

That block move though, I suddenly broke out it in laughter for a good couple of minutes

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

She-Hulk was part of the Fantastic Four for a while, that's probably why she's in that game.

[@amyschildgamerlive4519]

She-hulk's inclusion actually makes sense considering she was a member of the ff4 for quite a bit in the comics while Susan was pregnant.

[@amyschildgamerlive4519]

@@gsesquire3441 that too. She's basically their go to when they need a 4th to sit in.

[@Herowebcomics]

​@@amyschildgamerlive4519Yep! Her and Luke Cage.

[@tmmw1975]

I can’t get over how tiny the Thing looked in that FF game.

[@drigondii]

So someone went into the future, saw Thor: The Dark World, and thought, “I need more of this but a clunky video game.”

[@emmabyrne9274]

I'd suggest making a video on the "7 tie-in games that were actually decent" but I doubt there's enough games that actually fill that criteria

[@ClumsyByFact]

Absolute savage comments by Ellen about Marvel's Avengers... true... but savage.

[@shawnfields2369]

Well, if the avengers game didn't suck so badly, and be worse than the 2011 Thor movie tie-in game that had both Chris Hemsworth AND Tom Hiddleston, maybe she wouldn't have had to have been harsh on a s**t game?

[@tkdkid32]

I dont mean to nitpick, but the catwoman in the comics is named Selina Kyle. The catwoman in the horrible movie and game is named Patience Philips for some reason. I guess that's a distinction they made to not get anyones hopes up about her being an interesting character

[@DanStaal]

Honestly, I think that movie probably started life as a decent superpower-revenge movie, and then someone realized that there was some cat-tieins and with some mangling they could use a much more famous name as the main character. So they mangled away and released what we got, disrespecting both the movie and Catwoman at the same time.

[@marhawkman303]

@@DanStaal My guess is they changed the name after they realized they had a plot about what was a different character than Selina Kyle. IE it's Catwoman... in name only. BUT... when you label the movie "Catwoman"... people want Selina Kyle. It might have been better received if it wasn't called Catwoman. :/

[@DanStaal]

@@marhawkman303 What I'm saying is that I don't think it started as a Catwoman movie - that was tacked on late in development, for better marketing.

[@marhawkman303]

@@DanStaal hmmm... I'm pretty sure the greenlight was after it became Catwoman though. It seems unlikely that DC just agreed to let someone use the name after filming started. Nah. Maybe the script got rewritten to add the Catwoman name, but the movie didn't get a greenlight until AFTER that. It does seem possible that the script idea got written and re-written several times before it was filmed thouogh.

[@ArticulatedDoom]

That Selina Kyle is also not Selina... It's Patience Hope or some awfully stupid thing like that

[@jonstone6862]

Phillips? Not that it's any better. Bad film, and terrible game.

[@outsidextra]

Yeah, this Universe's Selina Kyle was "Patience Phillips" to try justify the weird different cat-reincarnation origin story, rather than her just being a cool robber who can do backflips with a whip. WHYYYY, HOLLYWOOD???

[@swj719]

@@outsidextra Because He is a cruel and vengeful God, apparently.

[@Hellwyck]

@@outsidextra As Adam West himself said in The Simppsons: "The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt."

[@jonstone6862]

@@outsidextra MONEYYYYY

[@diquandaniel7953]

This video is the equivalent of that one John Mulaney joke: I wasn’t old enough to review these videos on KZbin. KZbin was even more for cat videos than it is now, G4 was a tv channel, and the term “viral video” was used extremely loosely.

[@Jatt2613]

I know you were sort of making a joke when you were saying Captain America and Thor got popular when played by handsome, charismatic actors, but to take it seriously for a second, it's not just that. There needs to be good character design and a good story for them to be in for them to finally take off. Just look at Green Lantern. Ryan Reynolds couldn't carry that all alone with neither of those things, but stick him in Deadpool with some fun writing and a good take on the character, and bam, super popular. Marvel has just managed to finally get the formula right and focus on making a fun movie first and a comic book movie second. Now I just wish someone would come along and do the same thing for video game movies.

[@pineapplegritz7281]

Hey have you guys ever made a game before? No, but we got Halle Berry as Catwoman!!

[@mightybeastofbengal]

Even Halle Berry didn't want Catwoman

[@jamesscoggin860]

Ellen's dedication to Daredevil is absolutely wonderful. Matt absolutely deserved better!

[@Red-in-Green]

Having heard Ellen’s pitch for a Daredevil game, I now need that Daredevil game.

[@tmoneyananimator3527]

The she hulk addition does make some sense, as she's been heavily affilated with the Fantastic Four, including a period where she replaced the Thing on the team, I believe after the first Secret Wars.

[@stv0036]

"The eyes in Daredevil's mask are weirdly far apart". Well yea, it's not like he a) needs them or b) could see what he was doing when he made it.

[@NoOne-zd6zb]

Ellen "Matt Murdock would be way more careful about not revealling his abilities in his civilian garb" Matt Murdock is the worst at keeping his secret xD

[@runningthemeta5570]

Ellen, it’s important that I inform you that recently Outside Xbox did a video on games that didn’t get a sequel, and Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning was strangely left out.

[@runningthemeta5570]

@The Gaming Meta we live in a society, where honor is a distant memory. Wouldn’t you say The Gaming Meta?

[@runningthemeta5570]

@The Gaming Meta war is a funny thing, it takes a single misplaced card, and the whole card tower comes crumbling down

[@pockylovingranger]

Aquaman Battle for Atlantis was so bad that it even inspired the Golden Mullet Awards from X-Play xD

[@CantankerousDave]

Ah, I remember those days well.

[@AD-6896]

I want to hear Ellen rant about Daredevil. Anyone else?

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Not me, its daredevil we should already know what she's going to say

[@boraxkid1097]

Luke's defeated tone before the spoiler list is just the best.

[@snukastyle]

Calling that version of Catwoman "Selina" (three times) is a disservice to the character. Of Selina Kyle, not Patience. Hmm...wasn't there a bad Green Lantern game based off the Ryan Reynolds movie?

[@CassBlackflame]

It never happened. Both the game and the movie because Deadpool fixed the timeline.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@CassBlackflame Really? That's great! Deadpool got rid of both of those? Can he also get us a GOOD Fantastic Four movie? And did he fix Blade: Trinity? I mean, I know Ryan Reynolds wasn't that good in that movie, but it's not his fault the movie wasn't as good as the previous Blade movies, and plus, Ryan Reynolds is an awesome person.

[@CassBlackflame]

@@shawnfields2369 We should ask him when we see him.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@CassBlackflame Good idea. I'll be sure to ask Ryan Reynolds about it, and see if he can get Deadpool to ask Hannibal King about it, and see if he knows anything about it, and see if either King or Deadpool can find Hal Jordan and ask if HE knows about it. And if not, hey, at least we tried, you know? And, Ryan Reynolds will never NOT be awesome. Dude's a legend.

[@soundpreacher]

That's what I came to look for. I hated the Green Lantern movie and game - and I am one of the biggest Green Lantern fans around!

[@AlphaX02]

My biggest concern here isn't how bad those games were, but that Ellen's description of what a Daredevil game COULD be sounds impossibly awesome and something I would be all for. Which means they'll never do it.

[@blinstales1554]

She-Hulk has been a member of the Fantastic Four in the comics even replacing the Thing for a time that’s why she’s in the Fantastic Four game

[@marhawkman303]

yeah there was at one time a Fantastic Four run with a fully different team. Part of me wants to say Spider-man(Mr. Fantastic), She-Hulk(Thing), Storm(Invisible Woman), and Ghost Rider(human torch).

[@ninefingerjack]

Nice touch with the cover art in the game reveals. Something small but truly appreciated.

[@donovanwilson840]

I was trying to forget about the fantastic 4 game...thanks for that

[@jamesmeppler6375]

I try to forget about the fantastic four in general...thanks guys

[@lordreptilestormblade1749]

"Lego Marvel Super Heroes" I preferred playing as Lizard myself.

[@Nosferatu755]

I'd have also said Hellboy: the Science of Evil. That game was almost painful to play, and not in a fun way

[@matthewm9559]

The other one, Hellboy: Dogs of the Night/Asylum Seeker is supposed to be really bad too.

[@paulellington1505]

Hey Luke She-Hulk was in the Fantastic Four video game because in the comic she joined the team after Sue/Invisible Woman had a mental breakdown and she had helped the team previously as their lawyer. Just a little info from a huge fan of Outside Xbox and Outside Xtra and Oxventure Guild as well as a comic reader for most of my life. Keep it up👍

[@tmelir19]

I would definitely watch Ellen doing full reviews of how bad the films themselves were

[@CyarSkirata]

Okay, now I have an idea: hear me out. A Daredevil game where you always start out each new area with a black screen save for Murdoch himself, and the world is filled in visually by every applicable sensory input that reaches him. Daredevil makes any kind of noise, his immediate surroundings get permanently filled in via echolocation, along with NPCs and the like being shown for the duration of the noise. A character walks, you can see them constantly thanks to the sound and floor-vibrations of their footsteps. They try to sneak, you can still see them but they're nearly transparent because they're quieter. You can basically use the same system Stealth games use for guards hearing you to govern how sound travels - make the environment somewhat transparent so if the sound of footsteps makes it to you around a corner, you can faintly see the walking NPC through the wall. Given the lack of conventional visuals, the biggest game design hurdle would probably be in making the game comfortable and interesting to look at.

[@oriolgonzalez9328]

13:00 "Captain America in the Boob Tube" ELLEN ROSE, stop putting your fanfic titles in the script of the video!

[@thundercookie3214]

It's a far more entertaining and promising title than the original one, though.

[@philiphunn194]

She-Hulk's presumably in the FF game because she was a stand-in for the Thing for a while. Although if that's their reasoning, they probably should have included Ghost Rider and Wolverine as well...

[@kevincarter4782]

As well as Spider-Man

[@countzrathknock6737]

Iron man games for the PS3. Worst thing is. They failed into a sequel.

[@MagTheMercenary]

I am so glad Ellen mentioned God of War as the best Thor game ever, because that's exactly what I was thinking of at the back of my head 😂

[@kevinleonard6855]

I want to hear the rest of that Daredevil rant!😎👍

[@scottylewis8124]

The fans don't want to hear anything negative about their beloved Affleck.

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Daredevil sucks....do you really need to hear her say everything we are already thinking?

[@scottylewis8124]

@@jamesmeppler6375 watch the dang director's cut!

[@jamesmeppler6375]

@@scottylewis8124 is it much different? If so ill give it a shot

[@scottylewis8124]

@@jamesmeppler6375 very different.

[@jodinsan]

Ellen threw so much shade at the end of the Thor entry she now qualifies to be in his Rogue's Gallery of villains.

[@davidmelon9409]

To be fair, She-hulk was for a while a member of the Fantastic Four, so it makes sense to have her around.

[@kevin_f]

Anyone else have a category of “favorite bad movies”? Like you know that the movie is objectively bad, but you can’t help but enjoy them? Daredevil and Electra are both on that list for me.

[@VulpesObscura]

The Resident Evil films for me.

[@user-wj6eq1cx7x]

@@VulpesObscura Yeah, really loved the first one despite its reputation. It had deadly lasers, zombies and Michelle Rodriguez so it's instantly a winner for me.

[@VulpesObscura]

@@user-wj6eq1cx7x They're really good, fun action romps that give me an amazing excuse to stare at Milla Jovovich kicking butt for 90 minutes at a time. I also really enjoy the first Silent Hill film, although the sequel objectively is just bad.

[@philiphunn194]

Plus the director's cut of Daredevil is really good.

[@kevin_f]

@@philiphunn194 Ah! A man of culture.

[@13DeathWolf]

on she hulk's inclusion in the F4 game, to give the developers some tiny sliver of credit. she hulk was a member of the fantastic four for a period of time (replacing the thing who had stepped away for personal reasons) despite leaving the group later on and joining the avengers, she remained a sort of honorary member on whom they could call if they needed help

[@Amy-yf9zc]

she hulk is there because she's often a member of the f4

[@jasminglaiter5863]

Thanks, I was wondering if I was the only one knowing this... xD

[@marhawkman303]

@@jasminglaiter5863 Yeah She-Hulk Spiderman and T'challa show up in Fantastic Four a LOT

[@DirgeTV]

Only two of the games on this list I heard of, the others are just...wow. 3: I share the same confusion in how one manages to mess up a tie-in game this many years later coming off one of the most overwhelmingly popular depictions of Thor in recent times. While I highly doubt that voice in any way was Chris Hemsworth reading lines THAT badly, I find myself trying to figure out if Tom Hiddleston WAS the one held at gunpoint doing Loki's lines or was that someone doing their impression of Tom Hiddleston WHILE doing Loki's lines at gunpoint. Alot to ask if its the latter. 4: This I had no idea even existed and well...now I wish it stayed that way. It looks as if it plays like a terribly adapted Iguana west Wrestling game and it somehow manages to make pulling a guy's arm off look boring and tame even in that era (Meanwhile, a certain fighting game franchise made that look shocking in 2D a few years earlier) 5: Good god, the name alone is just...why? As for the game itself, a luckluster depiction of the source material AND useless puzzles in the middle of fighting AND a Time Limit? Its like they wanted to make a godawful game regardless of what system it was on (Although I think the ZX Spectrum players got the worst end of the tainted shaft) 6: Is it bad that I like the sax-heavy song in Mr Fantastic's intro? Its literally the only thing pleasing audibly or otherwise in this...game (Abit like the soundtrack in that one Sonic game. Can you feel the sunshine?) 7: *Sigh* This falls right in that same category of "I don't know what's worse" as the Catwoman Movie and Tie-in game. Both are terrible, questionable, barely resemble the source material and are only good if all you wanted to see was a celebrity in leather (Although in that last bit, the Movie is by far the better alternative with both so the game is worse).

[@lordreptilestormblade1749]

I miss Marvel Avengers Alliance...

[@Sunprism]

"Matt Murdock would be way more careful about not revealing his abilities in his civilian garb" Pretty sure this was around the same time that he was walking around in a big red sweater that said "I'm Not Daredevil" on it

[@minomininni]

I actually enjoyed "Spawn: Demon's Hand" for Dreamcast... but I'm also one of the four people on the planet to have liked "Rise of the Imperfects", so pay no attention to me 😅

[@thanotosomega]

Rise had some pretty cool villains, and the idea of engineering perfect counters to heroes and villains was neat, gameplay was a bit of a mess of course, but also on the bright side they actually made sure to job out the actual first hero who would die if he ever actually tried to take on a super villain and killed off Punisher in the intro unlike Hulk and Cap who were captured,

[@nickjeffery536]

As someone who once had a Spectrum, I would like to take issue with you blaming "an artist friend" for messing with Cap's costume. The main reason he was "see-through" was the same reason a LOT of big Spectrum games had monochromatic graphics - the system literally could not handle having more than two of the system's 8 colours - black, blue, red, magenta, green, cyan, yellow and white - within the same 8 by 8 character block. Trying to fit more in would result in "colour clash", whereby one of the colours would override another, and make the whole thing almost impossible to play. As the system got older, people found other techniques to avoid this, but it needed VERY careful programming.

[@nickjeffery536]

Also, the 1982 Spiderman text adventure on the Spectrum was pretty terrible. I never got very far, and having watched a walkthrough it is no wonder - you had to gather (steal?) 18 gems and drop them in front of Madame Web, most of the game is spent typing in "get gem" or "drop gem", at one point you are carring (at the same time) a sofa, a desk, a statue, a larje painting, an aquarium and a sleeping Dr Conners as you climb up and down a lift shaft... it needed so many leaps of illogic to complete that I am surprised even the writer knew how to finish!

[@rafaeldiaz2253]

Love y'all's vids, keep up the great work lads

[@Renanbso]

14:55 some poor truck driver dies in an horrific accident while a funky guitar riff plays in the background.

[@jvlemon7455]

Sadly for a lot of comic book characters, the Lego games will probably be the only good game they are in.

[@bigpmp883]

I wasn't expecting the Avengers Alliance reference. That game got shut down in 2016, and I'm still not over it. It was the only game on Facebook worth spending actual money on and I still miss it.

[@TheWretchedOwl]

I’ve seriously never even heard of these games. Jeez.

[@oxfanblink4115]

You’re lucky the Batman Arkham series and both Spider-Man and Spider-Man Miles Morales are the only recent must plays for comic book fans/gamers. Guardians Of The Galaxy is far better than Avengers for it’s story but still not quite up there with Arkham or either Spider-Man

[@edwardnygma8533]

To be fair, She-Hulk has been a recurring member of the FF, and when they occasionally change to be the Fantastic Five or something of the like, she's often the added member. Honestly, I hadn't known of this game, and now I kinda want to play it. I also kinda want to go back and play the GBA FF game I had that tied into the 04 or whenever movie. Y'know, the halfway decent one.

[@Michael_Lindell]

6. So it's a Fantastic Bore? That's Grimm. Lame on!

[@3sydE007]

That was cold. Avengers is NOT a bad game, it just had a bad launch.

[@nymphomata69]

I actually played all the way through the Fantastic 4 game when I was younger and lemme tell ya, its so daft its hysterical. And its hard. Like, stupid hard. Also, there's another PS1 game that would be at home in this list, Iron Man x Man-o-war, that's just as perplexing.

[@Barph]

To be fair, the Catwoman's game is WAY better than the Catwoman's movie, staring Halle Berry...

[@Legion_Immortal]

Captain America: Super Soldier wasn't that bad

[@someonescupoftea7386]

I got the sense the Daredevil sequence was written by Andy before Pheonix Wright was mentioned. Then Ellen started talking about the eyes on the costume xD

[@urchinscurvy2049]

New avengers game, just a bit bland

[@doctorboots1604]

It's been fairly common for other heroes to fill in when members of the Fantastic Four are laid up. Truth told I kinda like the idea of a Fantastic Four game with the expanded roster of reserve members as playable characters.

[@scottylewis8124]

I prefer the PS2 game based on the 2005 film.

[@PitFriend1]

I still remember that the Aquaman game was so terrible the show X-Play named their awards for terrible achievements in video games “The Golden Mullet” in honor of Aquaman’s flowing locks.

[@starscreamsniper926]

To answer why she Hulk was in that fantastic four game is because in a lot of comics she has either been a love interest or replacement muscle for the thing whenever the thing didn't have powers. Sometimes it's both

[@amaronith]

Fun Fact: She-Hulk has actually been on the Fantastic Four! She replaced The Thing for a short time when Ben Grimm stayed on Battleworld after the Secret Wars story arc.

[@MeLeoMiller]

'pissed up crabmen' hahaha

[@totz_the_plaid9625]

She-Hulk was one of numerous substitute members of the Fantastic Four, filling in for quite a while after Thing stuck around in outer space after the '80s "Secret Wars" event. She might have been the longest-serving substitute as well, I'm not sure. Other subs include Medusa & Crystal of the Inhumans, the forgotten Ms. Marvel (Sharon Ventura, who was turned into a She-Thing at one point), and far more recently Spider-Man during the early Future Foundation era while Human Torch was briefly dead.

[@cloudstrife532220]

Your concept for a Daredevil game sounds pretty neat actually, Ace Attorney/Assassin's Creed lovechild.

[@gustonzimasheen]

Catwoman: "I hate Mondays ...and this game"

[@kornprime]

She-Hulk was a legit member of the FF for a while, while Ben Grimm was temporarily "cured" and was living a normal life. Which I think must have been fairly recent/ongoing at the time the game was released. The FF have had a pretty large temp/sub roster over the decades actually. I mean, they've had various Hulks, Ghost Riders, Wolverines, Spideys and a whole bunch of others at times.

[@rayneclouds223]

The thing about the aqua man game not having actual cutscenes is not only in that game. I used to have the ORIGINAL lego Batman on my DS, and the levels didn’t have cutscenes, just comic panels with no words trying to explain the story through only pictures.