7 Things We Wish We'd Known About Commuting On An E-Bike

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@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
🤔 What features would your ultimate commuter bike have? Let us know 👇
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 6 ай бұрын
Regenerative battery top up, a dynamo type function integrated into it!
@shaun7163
@shaun7163 6 ай бұрын
Removable, but lockable, battery. Guarantee that you'll be able to buy a replacement battery in 5 years time. Built in lock, not just turning off the motor, actually stopping the whole drive train.
@JMcLeodKC711
@JMcLeodKC711 6 ай бұрын
Full mudguards
@JMcLeodKC711
@JMcLeodKC711 6 ай бұрын
Best feature would be to to not have to ride through a laundromat 1:24
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle 6 ай бұрын
Bike path, dedicated bike lane, good lock up place at work or school or shopping centre. I think the latter could be managed by having a dedicated bike parking lot with an attendant and security cameras. Also, I'd like to see these bikes sold with a 5 year warranty on the motor and battery, or in the very least 2 years with a warranty to replace the drive train and motor with a deductible. Once solid state batteries come to mass production, I can see one being able to recharge in 10 minutes and get 100 miles of range, with 1000 cycles.
@randycarey-walden8530
@randycarey-walden8530 6 ай бұрын
22,000 miles on my e-bike as a daily commuter (10 miles each way) in five years. Bought a second battery two years ago. Sold my car. $160 US annually for maintenance. $300 every third year for new tires, etc.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! So cool to hear that you are ditching the car and getting out on the bike 🙌
@vilavg3657
@vilavg3657 6 ай бұрын
On this specific bike?
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons 6 ай бұрын
@@gcn this Chanel has the word global but you only show British restricted e-bikes which is not the same as countries where 750 watt motors are allowed which changes the game
@liamness
@liamness 6 ай бұрын
Even if a lot of people couldn't go car free, there must be so many people who could sell their second / third car if they just replaced the trips that don't really need a car with an e-bike
@liamness
@liamness 6 ай бұрын
@@HistoricalWeaponsMight be interesting to go over to Europe and try some of the faster bikes which are allowed there. Up to 45 km/h (28mph), but require registration and insurance, the use of a helmet, and cannot be ridden in many places that bikes are allowed to. Basically they are treated much more like a moped, tax aside. I think I would feel quite vulnerable on a bike going that fast. Maybe it would make sense for more long distance riding, on surfaces that you know are well maintained.
@KarlXByrne
@KarlXByrne 4 ай бұрын
As a disabled person getting an E-Bike has made a huge difference to my life. Having nearly died at the end of the year I made a promise to get one, and have gone from not going out all week to can't wait to get out for a few hours around Dublin City and the Bay area. One of the best things I ever got.
@lsdivers
@lsdivers 3 ай бұрын
I need one for work, but I'm concerned I'm not fit enough, I borrowed my son's pedal bike and had aching thighs after 2miles... Do you find the ebike "easy" to ride or is it still tiring?
@KarlXByrne
@KarlXByrne 3 ай бұрын
@@lsdivers I am amazed at how easy it is. As well as 2 autoimmune issues I have some breathing and a heart issue too. I pedal assist quite a bit knowing I can take a "throttle break" when needed and push myself a little more each time. Perfect if you have fitness issues.
@lsdivers
@lsdivers 3 ай бұрын
@@KarlXByrne thank you, that's great i'm going to try one then. sorry about your health issues, hope the bike helps
@unclejohn5012
@unclejohn5012 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear this. This is one of the overlooked aspect of ebikes. Allows people to get out more because they know they have power that they can bump up to get home. Also it's easier on the joints and is alot more fun then walking or using a stationary bike! Good on ya mate!
@antoh07
@antoh07 2 ай бұрын
Makes me happy to hear about your positive experience, despite all the moaning I actually love all the new cycle ways around Dublin. It's the future :) .
@simoniannelli
@simoniannelli 6 ай бұрын
For me, the best improvement in commuting by bike has been getting panniers and mudguards. Not having a backpack that weighs you down and causes back pain is great :)
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 6 ай бұрын
I agree! Backpacks guarantee a sweaty back. Mudguards allow you to wear normal clothes. It only takes one puddle to mess up your clothes. I use an extension on the front mudguard to keep my shoes clean
@bcb7655
@bcb7655 6 ай бұрын
This! Less fatigue, more comfort, and the possibility to take clothes off while waiting at a red light guarantees the absence of sweat.
@jacksonbangs6603
@jacksonbangs6603 6 ай бұрын
I agree that panniers are a good way to take the weight off of your back. I use them on my trek 520 touring bicycle.
@TheSpaceBrosShow
@TheSpaceBrosShow 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Those are a must. Also consider waxing your chain. You never have to worry about your nice pants getting dirty again
@liamness
@liamness 6 ай бұрын
Mudguards are a huge upgrade for whoever is unfortunate enough to find themselves behind you too!
@vestaalvesta786
@vestaalvesta786 6 ай бұрын
GROCERY SHOPPING! Used to be a torture on my previous hybrid. Also, you are not sweaty while getting to work, wasting precious time showering before a big meeting. Lastly, you bike in good health and bad, no more off days after strength training, when trying to sit on a chair seems like a scene from a cartoon. 😂
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Shopping on a bike can be so much fun! 🙌 Have you mastered the art of loading the bike down?
@darrenhitchcox6345
@darrenhitchcox6345 6 ай бұрын
I am an experienced cyclist and I have an ebike. I ride it in motor off at times to use the battery when I need it or drag me home mode. They are a awesome enabler and I can ride with lads 20 years younger than me and keep up. Did a 100 mile ride on mine last year and got another planned later this year.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
this is so cool to read! 🫶
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 6 ай бұрын
You can attach the battery to your genitals. I use a simple battery charger lead. Hurts though!
@KingCollagen2
@KingCollagen2 6 ай бұрын
I so agree with everything in this video. I'm the fortunate owner of 2 ebikes and at 79 they've brought the joy of cycling back to me ❤. Living in Bristol, I recognise all the places in the vid and love riding them. You're right Si about St Michael's Hill - so steep. I get out of breath just walking up it 😪
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the comment, its brilliant to hear that ebikes have brought the joy of cycling back to you! As for St Michael's Hill, it is a brute!
@roberthenri9945
@roberthenri9945 6 ай бұрын
I support classifying these vehicles as "mobility assistance devices" and as long as driver has a government disabled person certificate, they could be exempt from taxes and regulations. However for everyone else, they should require the same regulation as a motorbikes. As far a mopeds being good for your health, I find most people who use them lose fitness and almost entirely rely on the motor. Coasting down hills isn't exercise.
@tconnolly9820
@tconnolly9820 6 ай бұрын
Another arrogant roadie with his head stuck up his own self important ego.
@kellylingus
@kellylingus 6 ай бұрын
@@roberthenri9945 You have very clearly done zero research on ebikes. Do you even ride bro? Mid drives make you pedal just like a reg bike
@mesiroy1234
@mesiroy1234 Ай бұрын
Bosh is expinve enggiers compnay put 1 doolar lcd screen? Why?
@DeputyChiefWhip
@DeputyChiefWhip 3 ай бұрын
Dutch person here. Just get any ebike that has lights, a comfy seat, a rear wheel clamp lock, a chain lock. and a bell. Make sure it has enough range to get you from a to b! Get on it and ride it 💪
@alikabok-es4sx
@alikabok-es4sx 6 ай бұрын
I used to scorn ebikes when they first came out. Ugly machines, I called them. My prejudice and snobbish attitude got the better of me. Then I suffered a heart attack 8 years ago. As Si so insightfully observed. "ebikes are transformative. After the heart attack, I thought my biking days are over. But ebikes gave my cycling passion an extra lease in life. Now, I thank the people who initially created ebikes and I am extremely grateful for those bike engineers who continue to improve ebikes. God Bless them.
@kevinhoffmann3713
@kevinhoffmann3713 6 ай бұрын
Matt laughing at Si going up the hills is pure joy and that is what any ride should be.
@mattgcn5702
@mattgcn5702 6 ай бұрын
It was a lot of fun, and the only time I'll ever drop him up a hill! I normally dread the times he does catch me on the commute, as he'll be chatting away whilst I'm gasping for breath, nice to that to him for once!
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
@@mattgcn5702 This will explain why you're always leaving early! Getting that head start 😉
@mattburkey8393
@mattburkey8393 6 ай бұрын
Blimey @@gcn
@davidknight2670
@davidknight2670 6 ай бұрын
@mattgcn5702 looking good Matt! Coincidentally I just pulled the trigger on the Grail On this morning.
@smellyelle8422
@smellyelle8422 6 ай бұрын
Si's smiley gurn face as he chases Matt up those hills 😂😂
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie 6 ай бұрын
I got an Aventon Adventure second hand last year. Upright, sturdy, cargo bike. I save about $5 in gas every time, but the big difference is time. Bad traffic in my American truck is 45-60min. The ebike is about 30min. Also fun!
@rabh6746
@rabh6746 6 ай бұрын
Cool video, e bikes are just the best especially for us older folks😉 I treated myself to a Giant Road E+1 Pro for my 60th birthday 6 years ago and have now covered almost 31000 miles! Best bike I ever purchased and it makes me smile everytime I ride it😁Last year I climbed over 378,000ft, I would never have come anywhere near that on a standard bike!
@peteinwisconsin2496
@peteinwisconsin2496 5 ай бұрын
Pete in Wisconsin USA here. After more than 20 years of commuting by bicycle, I think you guys are nuts for riding without gloves or without eye protection. E-bikes are a great addition to my transportation options. With one, there are no hills and no headwinds. It is easy to bring home the "tonnage" on mine. My e-bike was my only transportation when my car failed three years ago (all of June-September of 2021).
@rustyold55
@rustyold55 6 ай бұрын
I'm 69 from the land down under and can't get enough of Ebikes. I have a Focus Paralane gravel ebike. It's awesome. I've also got a Focus dual suspension EMTB. I ride the gravel bike 3 mornings a week with a group of old blokes and the EMTB the other 4 days. Average a total of 250 km a week in total. I was never an athlete kind of guy but I absolutely love riding my Ebikes and the fitness benifits have been life changing. Has worked great for me.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 6 ай бұрын
That's awesome.
@moctarfofana392
@moctarfofana392 6 ай бұрын
I had always wanted to try cycle commuting with my regular bike but the concerns about sweating and not having shower facilities at work, kept me away. However with the growth in e-bike usage, I finally purchased one last August and I regret not having done it earlier. I can ride in dress shirt and pants and arrive without a single bead of sweat anywhere and for the winter I have pannier attached and transport my work clothes, computer, and other items in that. It's also saving me money since I don't have to buy a monthly pass for slow and unreliable public transit.
@gur262
@gur262 6 ай бұрын
It's a horrible societal development. Toilets are everywhere shower's should. But I guess installing showers is not for the relevant industries
@kipcc3918
@kipcc3918 6 ай бұрын
I’m lucky enough that my work is just 3miles, I’m dreading this coming summer. But I’m lucky enough that I start 7 before the really bad heat coming up. So I just switch shirts, and a spray, I do take a shower everyday tho, cause going home with a backpack will always become a sweatfest.
@IowaNinersFan
@IowaNinersFan 6 ай бұрын
I have bike commuted to work for the past 3 years now (14 miles each way) on a three-rotational bikes (Warm weather, Winter and Weekender non e-bikes to boot) and don't have problem. Arriving at work as the Sun begins to rise helps to fight sweats until the humidity rises then it becomes a hassle but I work in a "freezer" section at the office, as the gals at work call it, which helps keep the smell down lol. The only bike that doesn't have a rack is my roadie which is my Weekend ride so I tote as little as possible then.
@steveosullivan5262
@steveosullivan5262 3 ай бұрын
I turned 65, I live in the hills of Eugene Oregon. Getting the e bike took a bit of doing, but I love riding it. Security is my main issue, but the thrill of riding is worth it. Perfect for the small runs I have to do and just the freedom to ride. I do love the outdoors, and this is my ticket. Love it!
@willian.direction6740
@willian.direction6740 6 ай бұрын
Done 18K km on my Turbo Levo now in 2.5 years. Mostly gravels riding and a few trails. 71 yrs old now. The battery is normally charged a couple hours prior to riding and I take it to the bike shop twice a year to get motor and circuit boards checked out. Avoid riding it in the rain and lightly hose it off no pressure washing. Always put a new chain on at each service and keep chain clean and lubed.
@buggen819
@buggen819 6 ай бұрын
I have an ebike that i bought for ~1,6k€ and have ridden 3000kms with it. Its not as fun as my other bikes but i dont do anything to it, left it outdoors when it was -17°c during the winter and it worked like a charm. Its cheaper in the long run than public transport and its faster than public transport aswell. Its a great investment imo.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
-17c! 🥶
@ironman8257
@ironman8257 6 ай бұрын
-17 will damage the battery, dont do that unless you dont care about the money
@buggen819
@buggen819 6 ай бұрын
@@ironman8257 the battery is stored inside, but if i can't use my ebike in the winter why would I have bought it in the first place
@ironman8257
@ironman8257 6 ай бұрын
@@buggen819 if stored inside than its fine. Id still make a fabric cover for battery like from insides of a lunch bag you know.
@mesiroy1234
@mesiroy1234 Ай бұрын
Bosh is expinve enggiers compnay put 1 doolar lcd screen? Why?
@sophiewillemhk
@sophiewillemhk 6 ай бұрын
Have been commuting on e-bikes since 2015 and never looked back. My commuting time is predictable, no sweat, and cruising along the traffic jams at 45 kmh (I have a speed pedelec) is just priceless. My wife has one too so we could sell our second car. Your maintenance estimates are a bit low though - I ride 4-5000k per year - that's 2 chains per year, new brakes etc. So for my next one I'd probably invest in a Gates belt. For a commute, I'd also go for a more practical model with mudguards, sidebags etc.
@ironman8257
@ironman8257 6 ай бұрын
Hi, if is it legal one ( i dont care ) how much are taxes and insurance ?
@stableianF1oracle
@stableianF1oracle 6 ай бұрын
I’ve just ridden 10,000 miles and 1 million feet in altitude on my e-bike in just under 3 years. Only ride for fun on mountains hills etc. I’m over 60 years old so I love the help up mountains.
@kingOfTheMountain76
@kingOfTheMountain76 6 ай бұрын
Apparently, the major issue is still security; in the case of using a lock on this type of high-end commute bike and leaving it somewhere, there is a significant chance of not finding your bike where you left it. I have a simple bike, which I don't worry too much about when leaving it chained somewhere, but I would like to have a battery and motor for an easier journey.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment. Thieves are truly terrible. We always advise to get the best lock you can afford, and beg your employer to have a secure storage area too! (Tell them GCN said so!) 👍
@poztal77
@poztal77 6 ай бұрын
at least you have GPS tracking
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk 6 ай бұрын
I mean you can hide battery under side panniers so that could probably help.
@bikecommuter24
@bikecommuter24 6 ай бұрын
Have you looked into the bike conversion kits?
@danielhayden4240
@danielhayden4240 6 ай бұрын
@@gcn maybe a new vid about locks and antitheft devices should be on the cards. 4iii with apple find my, Alterlock ect. bluetooth vs gps trackers.
@chetmanley1885
@chetmanley1885 6 ай бұрын
I'm a former ebike skeptic who switched a couple of months ago. I'm riding more than I was, up to 172K a week consistently (just commuting). I can get to and from work with between 5 and 15% battery remaining. We have a secure car park with power sockets for charging, so I could top up during the day as well. I'm mostly not in traffic, but there's one bit on a steep hill during school drop off time so I stick it on full power and go at it as fast as possible. Other than that it helps on the winding single track sections and it just keeps the speed consistent without thinking about it. It's also saved me quite a bit of time over both legs, or gets me home when there's not much left in the tank. When I've switched to the manual bike I've noticed the increased fitness, just from getting more miles in, has helped with the fun rides.
@clacclackerson3678
@clacclackerson3678 6 ай бұрын
Rack, proper mudguards, wheel-lock with integrated chain, puncture-resistant tyres (Marathon Plus for me).
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Is that a recipe for your dream commuter?
@MrQuestful
@MrQuestful 6 ай бұрын
I want all of those things, and a belt/gearbox like the Pinion MGU. I’m a decade into using bikes as my primary mode of transit, and my one gripe about e-bikes has been that the drivetrain gets a fair bit more wear and tear from riding (though this is sort of a signal of just how much I used mine). Having a belt and gearbox is the ultimate setup for drivetrain durability with limited maintenance.
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 6 ай бұрын
Marathon Plus tires are the best. Haven't ever had to fix a flat on them.
@clacclackerson3678
@clacclackerson3678 6 ай бұрын
@@gcn That describes the e-bike that I’ve been commuting on for the last seven years. I also own real bikes, but no car.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
@@clacclackerson3678 Sounds like it's a tried and tested system 🙌
@smythie27
@smythie27 3 ай бұрын
I had not ridden a bike for probably 10 years, and that was to with the kids to get them out of the house. I chose an ebike to commute to work. At 50yo, because of the hills in my area, an ebike made sense. And you guys are right, it made me enjoy riding again. I enjoyed it so much I am now making plans to do short term backpacking, on a normal though. E-bikes still give you a workout, but are just a bit easier on an aging body
@Chris-mn7yy
@Chris-mn7yy 6 ай бұрын
i have commuted 2 years on an ebike. I converted my Genesis Criox de fer to a mid mount Bafang motor. It's incredible, i've even fitted the heated grip wraps. 12 miles each way, charge up ever 2 days....at work. It makes me smile every day.
@robcole5805
@robcole5805 6 ай бұрын
Had an ebike since early December and haven't driven my car to work since. Its only a 7k round trip but its quicker than the car, much more relaxing than fighting through traffic and saves money on fuel and car park charges. More importantly im getting loads of weekend use doing much longer rides and thoroughly enjoying it. Well worth the investment.
@colonelclaw
@colonelclaw 6 ай бұрын
For me, in London during the rush hour, the speed boost you get pulling away from stops is the biggest plus of all. It's just so much less scary
@blapip6147
@blapip6147 3 ай бұрын
Ebike changed my life. It got me employment that's further away from where I live without being stuck in traffic and spending money on gas. I don't have to worry about parking and just bring my bike into our office. Light exercise daily too made my mood better. Only thing I hated was when it rained but since getting proper rain gear that goes over my clothes, I don't get soaked at all so I don't care about the rain anymore. I cycle about 2+ hours a day and it's been soooo great for the mental health.
@tl2646
@tl2646 6 ай бұрын
Good video. I ride 12.5km each way to work every day, mostly hilly roads on a normal bike. I think I have the perfect commuter - full mudguards, rack, hub dynamo. Every now and again though I find myself borrowing my wife’s e-bike (Specialized Vado SL with mudguards, lights and rear rack). Especially on a windy day, or when I know I have to do a rural home visit (GP). I’m even more tempted to use it on a Friday after a hard week. I don’t plan on switching full time to my own e-bike yet for commuting, but definitely an option as I move on through my 50s. I find that an ebike is a genuine alternative to a car, once our main family car finally dies I can’t see us replacing it. Maybe a cargo version.
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment, it's really interesting to read your usage and why/when you use it. Thanks again for sharing👍
@chrism5433
@chrism5433 6 ай бұрын
I love it . Great explanation. If your riding every day mechanic job all day It could be a nice break . Mind you I do have a car and need to bring tools and parts for side jobs lol. Not easy to carry on my bike . Keep riding stay fit 🚲🚲☕
@senecaflex4203
@senecaflex4203 6 ай бұрын
My E bike gave me my cycling life back. Knee replacements and other injuries pretty much ended my cycling. Now I can ride any time I want!
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
This is super cool! Where have you been riding on the new E-bike?
@senecaflex4203
@senecaflex4203 6 ай бұрын
@@gcn I bought my bike in April 23, I hit 3000 miles for last year. I live on Seneca Lake in New York so it is hilly and windy, as long as I have juice I can go anywhere. My advice for someone who is going to ride alot is get an extra battery.
@reiddryden9805
@reiddryden9805 6 ай бұрын
I think full fenders/mudguards are mandatory ✌🏼🤙🏼
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 6 ай бұрын
That's the first thing I noticed. A commuter bike with no fenders?
@timbeacon9389
@timbeacon9389 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Mudguards are to me essential
@peteinwisconsin2496
@peteinwisconsin2496 5 ай бұрын
And gloves + eye protection.
@jasondunn5410
@jasondunn5410 6 ай бұрын
I think I want one!!! Hats off to Si though. Even without a motor, he was flying up those hills!!
@Geenimetsuri
@Geenimetsuri 3 ай бұрын
Had a nasty COVID late last year. Lungs took a severe hit. Bought a cheapish e-fat bike few weeks back. Soon 400 kms on it and definitely having my fitness and breathing improve. The 2 × 40 minute commute 3-4 times a week + all the fun riding it everywhere. Perhaps the best thing I've bought ever 😅
@HughCStevenson1
@HughCStevenson1 6 ай бұрын
I have a e-bike that cost 600AUD to convert from a mountain bike that I already had. It has a 480 WHr battery and a powerful rear wheel motor. I had to do 2000 km to get my money back. I'm now on about 4000 km. Several points: My commute is about 35 km round trip - I can do this at quite high speed on 1 charge, just. I leave a charger at work so it gets down to only about 50% on each leg. The battery has reduced in capacity by maybe 15-20% over the 4000 km. It has a huge storage box on the back for luggage - great! Plenty of room for wet weather gear etc. It has full mudguards so I stay dry. Typical speed 30 kph (slightly illegal). Don't forget that the wheel with a motor in it can't have a quick release so punctures are an issue - you either have to carry a big spanner or a repair kit... It is terrible to pedal without power - sooooo heavy! I hope that helps people!
@NY_indy
@NY_indy 6 ай бұрын
I commute on a Cannondale Topstone e-bike and absolutely love it, as long as I remember to recharge it. My commute is 26 miles round trip and I arrive 5 to 10 minutes sooner than a conventional bike. I wish that fenders could be installed more easily.
@FR33_PALESTIN33
@FR33_PALESTIN33 3 ай бұрын
13miles and you only get there 10mins sooner? Thought it would be more.
@neilbailey6983
@neilbailey6983 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I think it would be good to talk about the impacts on your fitness of using an e-bike. I recently bought one and am riding to work on it. Loving it. But a lot of people say to me and think it is not really biking, you're cheating, you won't get fit etc. I reply I get tired and sore legs and sweaty and that is an indication to me I'm getting a workout. While it may not be as gut busting as a regular bike I do it a workout. My intention is that as I get fitter I will lower the level of assistance on hill climbs and use a less easy gear to build fitness.
@CoenFierst
@CoenFierst 5 ай бұрын
Only listen to comments from regular bike commuters that come by bike as much as you do. The others are either jealous or addicted to traffic jams 😊
@Smaug1
@Smaug1 6 ай бұрын
Another cool thing about eBikes? I went for a ride Thursday night, went harder than I intended to. Tried keeping up with my mates this morning on their road bikes while on my gravel bike. I'm REALLY sore now, but there's another ride I want to do tomorrow. I'm going out to plug in my eBike, as that is my only realistic riding option. Then, I will commute on it Monday as well; get my recovery going on.
@electricbikerider
@electricbikerider 6 ай бұрын
You do work harder on flat surfaces but the hills are so much fun. I didn’t need a E-bike, I wanted one, and I absolutely love my Specialized Creo. ⚡️🚴🏻
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
That's such a great point! Want and need are two very different things and both have their merits 🙌
@vincekerrigan8300
@vincekerrigan8300 Ай бұрын
Excellent video. E-bikes are a great boon for many. A keen roadie, I kept delaying getting e-assistance until finally in my late 80s I found my speeds and distances falling off, even by my standards at the time, and hills were becoming very difficult. Not being in the market for a pukka e-road bike, I fitted a light e-assist friction drive kit to my road bike and thus gave myself a new lease of riding life, with a reasonable simulation of an e-roadie which is all up quite light (13.5kg) and performs very well. A prime case of 'horses for courses' I feel.
@madar427
@madar427 6 ай бұрын
Simon is the best presenter EVER.He makes everything interesting. Loved this video.
@Choccytube
@Choccytube 6 ай бұрын
As someone that has used an eBike since 2020 as a commuter bike I'll add some input. Firstly charge the battery as regularly as possible, do not worry about the motor (if it's Bosch, Shimano etc). Find the mode that best suits your commute, remember that the time difference on most commutes by bike are minimal, compared to motorists. In winter wear warmer clothes than you would on an analogue bike, you don't build up the same warmth. Do not worry about buying the best gears for you bike, they will get chewed up and the weight savings of top spec is irrelevant on an eBike (I use cheap Chinese chains and cassettes). Still try to get out on an analogue bike or you will lose fitness, treat the eBike commute as a recovery ride, no sweating or hitting Z4. As for security, I have a removable battery and take it off every time I go to work, if someone steals the bike they'll need to buy a battery to even sell it (with the cheap Chinese components). The main problem is Roadies want to race you all the time.....let them have their fun.
@DaxPlusPlus
@DaxPlusPlus 6 ай бұрын
I like the idea you get the best of both worlds - chunky tyres for the ridiculous road surfaces we face but the motor to mean it's not a bore being slowed down thanks to their rubbish rolling resistance. Also can ride on days your tired.
@cbyron9308
@cbyron9308 6 ай бұрын
1. Ditch the cycling specific clothing as you don’t sweat using one. 2. Belt drive with an internal 7 speed to reduce maintenance 3. The faster pace allows for new routes that favour using better cycling infrastructure. 4. Cargo space as I’m always carrying gear, front and back 5. Room for plus tires with studs for winter commutes. 6. 750 + motors because what’s the point otherwise? 7. Integrated lights to simplify getting ready in the morning 8. Once you’re below -12 C heated clothing is a plus as you don’t generate much heat riding an e-bike 9. Batteries last about 5 years and range drops quite a bit during that time. Replacing one is the price of an intermediate level bike. 10. If you’re fixing your own, look for a bike stand that’ll work, these things are heavy. 11. Smaller diameter tires tend to keep your centre of gravity lower - again, for carrying things. 12. Bike paint that glows in the dark - see Priority Bikes 13. Indoor storage - if you have an e-bike, store it in a secure setting as few counties take bike theft seriously.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 5 ай бұрын
250W works well on my "Hase Lepus" delta trike. NFL-size rider here. Rohloff gearbox!!!
@philcadorette1383
@philcadorette1383 24 күн бұрын
As a life long bike rider of many decades I totally agree and would like to offer more insight. Don't disparage e-bikes , as they often are. I recently pinched a nerve in my back to the point that I could barely walk and got tired of lying around getting better that I tried an e-bike for a short stint. No pain of any kind, then went further and further and to my amazement no pain. I now have an e-bike in the stable to rotate into my weekly riding style, they bridge the gap when you are not quite feeling up to it physically but want to mentally. I also ride motorcycle and get the same sort of enjoyment from those rides as well. All my rides on 2 wheels are great !
@woolfwoolf
@woolfwoolf 5 ай бұрын
I have spent $2500 on my ebike about 6 yrs ago. Best purchase ever. I have replaced tires, brakes, a new battery, new cassette, new chain, all a few years ago. I use it to go to work and everything else.
@dmo6468
@dmo6468 6 ай бұрын
Having changed to commuting 40 to 50 km in a round trip each day to work from a road bike to an e bike I can wholeheartedly agree that I feel safer on the road with the knowledge that I have that little bit of power to pull away from lights and keep up with traffic etc. my commute to\ime is virtually the same but the big difference is I am not as tired at the end of the week which frees up the weekend for fun rides.
@logtothebase2
@logtothebase2 3 ай бұрын
I think the comment about becoming a nicer politer rider is something I agree with, not stressing about momentum. Its not an issue if you have to wipe out a load of speed to wait for wayward pedestrian or red light on a clear junction. the other thing is when you are tired at the end of the day, it not a big deal to blip up the assist level.
@donball370
@donball370 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Si and Matt. Great to hear and see an all rounder e-bike. Do continue to think about getting one, but the biggest problem remains ... bike infrastructure to give separation from car traffic
@gcn
@gcn 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, this is an issue that all us cyclists struggle with - Do you think you would feel safer on the roads with an Ebike or normal bike?
@donball370
@donball370 6 ай бұрын
@@gcn If I was commuting, an E-bike would feel the safer option (especially if e-bikes could hold 32kph which is more than plenty for city centre peak traffic conditions). Own pedal power is fine for the early morning weekend rides when roads are quieter.
@Kenneth_McGrew
@Kenneth_McGrew 5 ай бұрын
try finding a different route to cycle to work, there's many options to avoid cars especially in cities, i cycle very rural for 95% of my cycling and there's still options to avoid national speed limit rally stages.
@minismama2030
@minismama2030 6 ай бұрын
A couple of years ago, I started riding again. It was agony. Then, I got an E-bike. (Momentum Vida E+). Total game changer! It got me moving again and is a godsend on hills!!🚴🚴🚴
@Slash90ita
@Slash90ita 6 ай бұрын
this series of video about the commuting is really appreciated! keep it coming, maybe a video on the best bag, backpack, etc to use would be also usefull!
@Beuler53
@Beuler53 6 ай бұрын
Hi,Guys, fahre seit 45 Jahren Tourenbikes,Mountainbikes und zuletzt Roadbikes und werde mir jetzt dieses tolle Canyon GrizlON CF 7 E -Bike kaufen .Made in Germany .Liebe Grüße aus Essen North-Rhine Westfalia
@notl33t
@notl33t 6 ай бұрын
I use a bike share in the US in the boston area and they just introduced single speed pedal assist only ebikes to the system in December. They are more costly with a 10 cents per minute charge versus the standard models, but they are easy and intuitive to use, and about 15 lbs heavier than the standard models. I have enjoyed using them, but they do not decrease my commute time--they do allow for me to do less work in order to bike further which is really great in bad weather.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 6 ай бұрын
In the US you're much more free to use electric motors on bikes. You can convert MTB why bafang motors for cheap and have very powerful motors. You can check johnny nerd out on YT, he's got a lot of content on it. In Europe pretty much everything is illegal.
@danielpedersen1688
@danielpedersen1688 6 ай бұрын
@@pierrex3226 well not everything sure most, but as long as it meets regulations as usual the 250w motor and 25 km/h then ur good to go. The downside to that is that their aren't many options to choose from, hopefully it changes sometime in the near future.
@jeffreylee5770
@jeffreylee5770 23 күн бұрын
About ten years ago, I moved into an area of the city with hills in all directions and many massive ascents at steep angles that look like walls when you approach them. So I realized an e-bike would help a lot, and it did. So I saved commuting costs and costs from wear and tear on my car by doing most errands with my e-bike, and it made riding into an everyday habit almost all year round. I still ride regular bikes, too, when I have more leisure.
@geoffreyhoney122
@geoffreyhoney122 6 ай бұрын
Wide puncture proof tires, wide gear range, panniers and rack, dynamo hub and lights, mechanical disc brakes, drop angle top tube.
@ironman8257
@ironman8257 6 ай бұрын
, mechanical disc brakes? why not hydro?
@geoffreyhoney122
@geoffreyhoney122 6 ай бұрын
@@ironman8257 Too complicated/finicky for at home or field conditions repairs!
@davidburns5988
@davidburns5988 7 күн бұрын
I am 77 and have a Raleigh Motus, quite a heavy bike, and love it and actually need an ebike. Wouldn't be able to ride a bike without power assist. Just been to the Netherlands, the cycle capital of the world, and did over a 100 miles and loved it. So for anyone thinking about an ebike go for it and enjoy getting out and about and getting a little bit fitter.
@TheHadMatters
@TheHadMatters 3 ай бұрын
One question I wish ebike reviews would address more often, especially for expensive lightweight ones, is how the bike feels to ride when the battery is empty/fully off. For cases where you're on a stressful schedule and forget to charge it, or you're in an awkward spot for trying to find a place to charge at for whatever reason.
@Belfreyite
@Belfreyite 2 ай бұрын
I have a Kinesis T2 Race light with Shimano 105 gearing and a triple chain wheel, I have it fitted with a Boost rear hub drive which is the lightest, most compact system. Believe me, I can ride that machine with a flat battery without a problem. I also have a spare battery which I sometimes carry in my rear pannier bag.
@marcopaganotto9125
@marcopaganotto9125 2 ай бұрын
My previous bosch system bike did 5000m last year, without a single issue. Still going strong although the battery is beginning to hold less charge this year. My initial reliability worries have been significantly reduced!
@colinwood8998
@colinwood8998 6 ай бұрын
I bought my first e-bike for commuting a little over a month ago. My job can be very physical and I have a 325ft hill to climb on my way home from work so a regular bike would have been very difficult for me. It worked so well that I ended upgrading last week to a larger e-bike with a much longer range and payload so now I can sell my car. It will save me thousands of dollars every year. I was a little worried that I wouldn’t get exercise like I would on a regular bike but that hasn’t been the case at all. Even though I do have a throttle, I almost always ride in pedal assist mode.
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker 6 ай бұрын
3:26 I am going to copy the trick of using the u-lock as a shadow stand. It looks so much more sophisticated than a random stick.
@davidwatkin2993
@davidwatkin2993 6 ай бұрын
But I was wondering where they mount the lock on the frame.
@H15W1T5END
@H15W1T5END 6 ай бұрын
Had an e-bike for a little while. A full charge would see me the day for the 38 mile round trip. Was great on days when i wasn't feeling up for the ride home at night, just lean on the motor a bit more; it was faster, in those conditions, than my old commuter. E-bike developed a problem and was back in the shop for months, during that time i resorted to my good road bike and on those low energy days it was just as quick as the e-bike 🤯 When i got a refund for the ebike i bought a carbon gravel bike instead and loving it 😁 Did go for the Fazua system as there is no motor drag once above the assist speed and will go for another one...eventually.
@olemartinoldervik3344
@olemartinoldervik3344 6 ай бұрын
bought my dream bike 2 years ago, Riese & Muller superdelite gt rohloff. has passed 11 thousand kilometers commute to work, from summer to winter with -20 degrees and snow. Have GPS tracking from BikeFinder 👍
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 6 ай бұрын
Now this looks bloody great. Matt looked effortless up that horrid climb!
@Adam_Adam_Adam_Adam
@Adam_Adam_Adam_Adam 5 ай бұрын
St Michael's hill is way steeper than it looks on camera. Having an ebike in Bristol is a game changer for commuting!
@shanelee007
@shanelee007 6 ай бұрын
Really enjoying these videos Si. Normalising using a bike to get from a to b and how ebikes are what we need to promote rather than EVs.
@Guitar6ty
@Guitar6ty 6 ай бұрын
The ultimate commuter bike is the one shown but with straight handle bars and full mudguards. I would also like a luggage rack and bag on it. As you say this particular bike would be great for country rides even a bit of off roading. It looks like a great all rounder and a real alternative to a car. I no longer commute as I am retired but I still ride my bike regularly. Ebikes have come a long way since they first started appearing on our roads and they are superb to ride but in winter you will need to have good base layer clothing to keep warm. One more thing I would add is a more padded seat anything that makes cycling more enjoyable is a plus.
@littlebootsxxiv6871
@littlebootsxxiv6871 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the practical everyday usability of an ebike, especially with paniers and integrated lights. Why does no-one sell secure panniers though? There's an assumption that you'll carry them around with you when you get to your final destination, which is often not what I want to do.
@Kenneth_McGrew
@Kenneth_McGrew 5 ай бұрын
i assume its more to not carry around wet & muddy bags, as nothing will be secure on the bike, you can get "vaude aqua bags", can lock them to your bike with a padlock on the clips, can also fit a standard backpack inside so you can just take the clean bag with you, and leave the muddy wet bag on the bike. personally i wouldn't leave anything in a bag on the bike though, although you can get solid fibreglass lock boxs similar to scooter top boxes if you really must leave something on the bike, but even then, if someone wants in, its not hard.
@marknhopgood
@marknhopgood 5 ай бұрын
I commute and put my bike in a locking cage. I custom designed the battery to work for my journey. I can swap the cells out and a new set costs me about £80. I have 3 locks. 2 chain locks and one d lock with cable. OK so far, 6 months in.
@jacksonbangs6603
@jacksonbangs6603 6 ай бұрын
I ride a Trek 520 touring bicycle. With this bicycle I did a cross country bicycle tour with no trouble. Now I use it to get to and from work. On a cross country bicycling adventure where would you charge an E-bike if you do mostly stealth camping in the wild?
@trailzable
@trailzable 4 ай бұрын
I just added a 500w front hub motor on my Surly Long Haul Trucker. The motor that I got from ebikeling is a geared hub, which allows the hub to freewheel so the bike can be pedaled normally (although it's heavier) Touring, you my not even notice the weight gain.
@Don19762
@Don19762 Ай бұрын
Recently bought one and it saves me 40 minutes of commuting per day. Amazing.
@NubRusty
@NubRusty 5 ай бұрын
I just ordered my ebike yesterday =D. I can't wait to finally get it
@matt821
@matt821 5 ай бұрын
What did you go for?
@NubRusty
@NubRusty 5 ай бұрын
@@matt821 Ariel Rider X-Class
@antoniocruz8083
@antoniocruz8083 6 ай бұрын
On my 5km way to work I gain about 200m elevation with steep parts up to 15%. On the very steep inclines I actually pedal standing up so as not to drain the battery and still can only manage 10km/h. On a regular bike it's like pulling a load of lead.
@FastRuffneck
@FastRuffneck 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Been commuting for a year now on a Ribble SLe, 52 mile round trip and absolutely love it. Agree with all the points made. Additionally, headwinds are no longer an issue. My commute now takes the same time each way, regardless of the weather conditions 👍🏻
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot 6 ай бұрын
Good point about headwinds, my old commute usually involved a headwind on the way home East to West near the Irish sea isn't much fun for about 9 months of the year.
@lafamillecarrington
@lafamillecarrington 6 ай бұрын
Features for commuting: mid-drive motor, belt drive, hub gears, stem damper, hydraulic disk brakes, built-in lights, full mudguards and rack for panniers. Oh, and costing under £3,000.
@calad6482
@calad6482 4 ай бұрын
That's the issue with this canyon bike. Why no belt and proper mud guards?
@MarkThomas-hm3ju
@MarkThomas-hm3ju 4 ай бұрын
What is great and it s demonstrated very well in this very good vid is that on an uphill climb you have more control and you are not having to crank hard and torque the front fork back and forth. This is important in the city commute for the extra safety the ebike affords. Also, I have foresworn the heat retaining backpack for a good back rack and trunkbag.
@totoroben
@totoroben 6 ай бұрын
Let's pick the model without rack and fenders 😂 geez I just got done commenting on this with another video of this channel. Ebikes are changing what a commuting bicycle looks like..... For the better. This is because weight limitation isn't as much of a factor in speed with the motorized assistance, so weight weenies need not be considered with rack and fenders, or kickstand even. Amazing still this channel showcases a model that leans more "sport" than utilitarian.
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 6 ай бұрын
Range is a non-issue with e-bikes, unlike EVs. If you need to stretch 90 miles in a day you can simply pedal more. That's an insane amount of seat time.
@Bluetoothedshark
@Bluetoothedshark Ай бұрын
If like me you're disabled, look at machines like I have, the tri-ride T-rocks. It's not cheap, but it's changed my life. No pedals lol, up to 30mph and with duel battery 40/60 real world miles in very hilly Cornwall. Changed my life. If you get one, fit the schwalbe 20x4 inch super Moto x tyre for great performance.
@grantswheelstohills
@grantswheelstohills 6 ай бұрын
I bought mine second hand, and in 14 months have done 2500 miles. A 10 mile commute each way, sometimes leaving at 05:00 and sometimes arriving home 22:30 Country lanes. Takes be about 20mins longer, than driving. I use two panniers to carry my gear. Great fun.
@tsw123456789
@tsw123456789 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately my bosch battery lasted 4000 miles and the motor lasted 6000 miles and they were both out of warranty, cost me £1200 to get them replaced plus the battery fried the digital display display which was another £100 at the time.My commute is 18 miles each way
@agasdoc
@agasdoc 5 ай бұрын
Love your channel! Glad you are including positive Ebike material. As a former triathlete and serious road cyclist, I have come to embrace the Ebike movement. I will always be in awe of professional cyclists, but if you hope to get average folks to consider commuting, or just getting on any bike again, it won't be on a high end touring or racing bike and having to do a roundtrip commute of 20 K or more. Hence the amazing utility of Ebikes. I believe Ebikes are revolutionary for public transportation ..... much more than electric cars. Love all the variety of your content!
@andrelam9898
@andrelam9898 6 ай бұрын
I’m commuting 32 miles from a suburb into downtown Buffalo NY up to twice weekly. I had a specialized gravel bike and upgraded to a Turbo Creo SL Comp e5. I had a warranty issue with the gravel bike and knocked the full value of that bike off the e-bike. It’s been transformative. Depending on the wind, it’s saving 10 to 20 minutes per leg of my commute. Two reasons. First if I have a solid 10 to 15 mph headwind, that used to crush my average speed. With “e-power” I don’t lose nearly as much speed. Secondly, I can sustain 20 mph on level ground easily with 60% power assist. (Level 2 out of three for support). On my old bike I’d be lucky to sustain 17 mph. I’m safer as I can keep up with traffic and I don’t hold up the cars as much, if at all. The roads are rough so the suspension built into the headset makes for much less upper body fatigue. I can’t ride in rain or with snow or ice on the road as it’s simply too dangerous. Nearly 1/4 of my commute puts me in the middle of a busy 4 lane arterial road cutting through town. There used to be Sharrows on the road (almost completely worn down). Even when they used to be clearly visible, drivers don’t understand they are supposed to share the road. I also can’t ride in temperatures much below 25F, I just can’t keep warm in lower temps. This past fall was crazy wet and didn’t get may commuting days in. We’d have one or two good days, but then that would conflict with days that I had to visit multiple work sites and had to use the car. This winter has been mild and I’ve never ridden so much in January and February, even after a good snow storm that dumped a few feet of snow, I could commute again less than 10 days later. I’ve got nearly 2000 miles on the bike with no issues.
@ravennexusmh
@ravennexusmh 6 ай бұрын
i would deff swap that fork out for the 100mm reba i use on the gravel bike i commute on. it's a game changer on bad road commutes. pot holes, kerbs. off road sections then become irrellevant with so much active travel, running equal pos and neg springs and 30% sag
@tomholdsworth6055
@tomholdsworth6055 6 ай бұрын
Weight of an e-bike is not an issue when in use but can be a big issue for transport and storage. My dad's e-bike is so heavy it is really difficult to load onto a (very low) towball mounted carrier. Impossible to put on a roof carrier or store in a first floor flat.
@nicholasgiles500
@nicholasgiles500 5 ай бұрын
We both have reisse and Muller bikes (cruiser and swing) for everyday use and hardly use the now one car anymore. One other big thing, is the hub, belt drive they have is more reliable, albeit more expensive, but it is worth the extra).Normally around 1500-2k miles a year. Paniers (are a must) on both and we can do a weekly shop between us, or two after work trip with all work stuff too. Charge the battery once a week, and half the time I am currently cycling I am not actually using any power.... Winner. Dropped to one car, saved on insurance, running costs and fuel. Get bike serviced twice a year and we have saved a fortune. People who live in the same clos as me basically get to work in the same part of town at basically the same time and have sat in traffic for ages while I just cruise past stationary traffic.
@marcb1289
@marcb1289 6 ай бұрын
I am not sure that the choosen bike is the best choice to illustrate bike commuting with an E-bike... And honestly, available range has never been a problem (with a nearly 40 km commute (forth and back) with some climbs). And if there is risk of running out of battery, you can switch assistance off and preserve it for your climbs. With your choosen gravel bike, in my opinion, it should be the way to use it: use assistance only when it is really needed, and ride it like a "normal" bike rest of time. For road commute, I will never choose a bike that make me carry a backpack: carrier is mandatory; mudgards are too. And I don't like droping bars for urban riding.
@Jebbis
@Jebbis 6 ай бұрын
I rode my tern gsd a little over 40 miles (64 km) the other day and I still had some battery left over. I don’t really see myself needing more than that unless I wanted to be lazy and not charge my battery. Oh and I still burned around 1900kcal. I also loved that I wasn’t a sweaty bastard when I got to my destination, I was just a normal bastard.
@oldgittim
@oldgittim 5 ай бұрын
got my first ebike last month, Haibike trekking 5 with build in lights and full mudguards and rack. been doing 30 mile commute 2/3 times a week for last 7 years on a touring bike. felt like I was selling out as a cyclist by going electric but agree with this video. It has put a spring back into my commute, now hills and headwind don't exist to me and the extra weight doesn't matter I carry my pack lunch and laundry in a giant pannier bag which I used to do on alternate days on my motorbike.
@pedrolahoz
@pedrolahoz 6 ай бұрын
Older riders are enjoying being able to hammer it with the young studs, thanks to those bosh motors
@paulmeilak9946
@paulmeilak9946 6 ай бұрын
just made over 7780 km on my Ebike. more than paid for itself.
@NickyLong89
@NickyLong89 6 ай бұрын
I bought an E-MTB and have ended up using it for commuting as well as having fun on a weekend. Due to traffic, it takes me about the same time as it would driving but I’m saving money on fuel and also getting a bit fitter. One of the best things I’ve ever bought is my e bike.
@soomad
@soomad 6 ай бұрын
Been eBike commuting since 2017. The difference it has made is not being faster, but now I commute around the year (also Finnish winter) since riding on low tyre pressure on ice is not an issue. I don't have to shower, I used to do 30K a day between home/uni/work. My base condition improved since I get a lot of low HR endurance training in. And I'm a less grumpy person since I get a lot of fresh air and sleep better 😅
@willfriedrich2830
@willfriedrich2830 6 ай бұрын
I love this video! I am a recent grad and I chose to forgo a car purchase to e-bike to work - on a Trek Domane+ AL 5, very similar to this model! You guys touched on all the right topics :)
@crytalfactory
@crytalfactory 6 ай бұрын
I have a short commute that i decided to get a fat tire ebike (rad power6) for and my goodness its been amazing in the rain sleet and snow. I like to say i got it to never have to worry about the weather, and that its better to be over prepared for everything...and it has been! Charge it once a week or so, and just reslly enjoy the ride!
@tomseppe6406
@tomseppe6406 22 күн бұрын
My 87 year old grandma can still bike around because of her ebike. Wonderful machine that gives people mobility until much later in life
@BillReals
@BillReals 5 ай бұрын
What is “super hilly” in UK? I commuted on a non-e-bike for years in San Diego and then bought an e-bike and commuted, it cut my ride by 50% in time. You are 100% right on what else you do with a bike, you start riding them everywhere
@daztastic147
@daztastic147 6 ай бұрын
Good video, so pleased not to hear the terms ‘acoustic’ or ‘analog’ bike, and on another note its remarkable how much older Matt looks in the cycling sections!!
@BernhardErnst
@BernhardErnst 6 ай бұрын
I own a Lark Air which has a front wheel motor and rear single speed. It is pedal assist only. The batteries are also in front which makes the front a bit heavier. The bicycle is great for commuting home from work against 30to 40 km/h wind for 14km plus a slight long uphill in the second part of the route. I did add a cargo rack because I was told by my work to shower when I arrive. Now I carry extra clothing and towel along when commuting to work. Trying to avoid backpack because it makes my entire back sweaty. When it is rainy season, mudguards or fenders are advisable. None of the bicycle have them because of "out of season" and because the racing cyclists want to keep the weight down. I wish that cycling shops also cater for the normal commuters which have less disposable income.
@avidyoutuber4952
@avidyoutuber4952 6 ай бұрын
I converted my old Trek Carbon 5900 to Electric and am now using it to commute to and from work. Amazing experience.
@gnxk1854
@gnxk1854 6 ай бұрын
Weight becomes an issue with e-bikes for commute when you have long segments at top speed. My e-bike is 28 kg, and on easy hill I cannot go above the 25kmph limit because it is simply too hard. That said, my bike has all you can imagine that adds weight for security: frame lock, tools, fenders, racks, bags, lights, etc. I will not trade in for security but I am looking forward lighter e-bikes.
@axuh382
@axuh382 6 ай бұрын
Nothing against ebikes but can't see big market for carbon gravel ebikes in this price range.
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