7 Time Fans Had to Fix the Game: Commenter Edition

Some games need a bit of extra work to make them better, and often it falls to fans of the games in question to do that extra work just for the love of said game. So often, in fact, that we received tons of suggestions from you, the Outside Xbox viewers, for more examples to fill this follow-up video about times fans had to fix the game. Enjoy, and subscribe for a video like this every Thursday from Outside Xbox!
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[@dcspike66]

I think Sarana smithing in the middle of the memorial ceremony was her way of passive aggressively saying "screw you" to the werewolves.

[@frankwest5388]

I like to think she was just heating the oven because she is a cannibal. “So are you going to eat that or can I?… I take everyone’s silence as a yes.”

[@DFloyd84]

Whatever world you're in, vampires and werewolves hate each other for some reason.

[@bustinarant]

@@DFloyd84 In Elder Scrolls Werewolves lose out on the "well rested" bonus from sleeping, but the slightest amount of immortality immediately turns every vampire or god into a big jerk lol

[@Kr0noZ]

To be honest, this (not deactivating the idle script for an NPC during a "cutscene") is less bad than I expected. What I thought might have happen instead is... Serana just "raise the dead" on old Kodlak hand have him run around as a thrall, because Serana does that very thing to most every corpse in range whenever she sees fit. Alas, that seems to be one thing Bugthesda actually thought about.

[@henryviiifake8244]

She was literally putting nails in his coffin. 💀

[@wipplewopple1876]

As a programmer, finding a single typo that causes cascading breaks in your code can certainly FEEL like a 3 year task in a small code project.

[@marhawkman303]

yeah, really, it's the little things that really trip you up.

[@koutetsushimobe]

Amen to that. I just finished my capstone project, which involved making an alphabetical sort algorithm. For the longest time I could not figure out why words that needed to be moved up in the list wouldn't go up, then I realised I forgot the curly brackets {} for a loop.

[@Kheper1]

@@koutetsushimobe what language did you write it in?

[@bandana_girl6507]

Especially when it's somebody else's typo

[@cmdraftbrn]

did enough of that in bitburner. one damned typo just kills your code

[@jdazzani]

I laughed at "team of mother enthusiasts" makes it seem like the project was very different

[@TJDious]

OH WHAT'RE YOU DOIN TO HER DUDE

[@ekrathrawl]

Wait, step-developer, what are you dooooiing????

[@twinodoom]

So they're the same kind of hunter as Kakyoin?

[@ZackC]

Probably not all that different, though

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Sephiroth has entered the chat 😂

[@alexixeno4223]

The way she just stares at you when working the forge too... that just... puts it over the top lol

[@Weazel1]

It’s a stare that says “What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Thought so.”

[@marhawkman303]

@@Weazel1 I was thinking "I'm forging a blade to kill.... THAT one."

[@azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700]

*Aela:* "..." *Vilkas:* "..." *You:* "..." *Serana:* "...What?"

[@Vinemaple]

It's stuff like that that keeps me from even playing Bethesda games. I'm glad to see that there's a patch for that kind of thing, but I wish there was a patch that gave the characters natural poses and facial expressions, matching their dialogue. I can't deal with such well-rendered characters standing and walking like robots.

[@RAHelllord]

@@Vinemaple There are mods that try to fix that, though the facial expressions are still never that good since they are procedurally generated based on the text.

[@Jessie_Helms]

Every Bethesda game I’ve ever played’s top rated mod is “the Unofficial _X_ patch.” New Vegas, FO4, Skyrim, and the list goes on.

[@whocares9033]

That's because Bethesda has a habit of using their player base as free labor

[@Gatorade69]

@@whocares9033 It's also cause their engine is crap. It still has unfixed bugs from 1998, when it was the NetImmerse engine, in it. It's like adding an addition to your house when the wood is rotting and the foundation is bad but hey, it looks good with that new coat of paint. It leads them to doing janky fixes to get certain stuff to work because the engine doesn't support it.

[@bilateralrope8643]

@@whocares9033 Fallout 76 suggested that Bethesda didn't understand just how much work the fans did to fix their games.

[@The_Ghost_King]

I eagerly await the day when the Unofficial Elder Scrolls 6 Patch comes out so that I can play Elder Scrolls 6 after it's finally released. I estimate a good ten years on the game, and at least one more after that for the Unofficial patch.

[@daggern15]

@@Gatorade69 Not to mention not fit for purpose. Most don't realise it's as unstable as it is because it was designed to only bare the load of linear shooters, not whole open worlds.

[@synthraofficial5366]

Mike's laugh at Andy's Sonic question is an absolute treasure.

[@le-grey-far-away]

Internet gold

[@shanedawndusk3290]

Yes

[@deathraygonzo6339]

18:07 Making a sword in warriors funeral pyre is pretty metal. Could have even been a part of the actual lore.

[@fireblast133]

I mean you can forge 'nord hero' gear after all's said and done, Kodlak's essence adding potency to the forge. It's buffed and reskinned ancient nord gear, but hey, there you go.

[@Janoha17]

Right after the funeral, Eorland Gray-Mane sends you to retrieve the last shard of Wuuthrad from Kodlak's nightstand, and while you meet with the Circle, he reforged Wuuthrad.

[@blindsightedkill]

"And as we cremated the dwarf we found that the legends were true. The iron in his blood was strong. His family (metallurgical talented) saw no better way to honor his fighting spirit than to make a sword from his heart" seems like decent lore

[@Kar4ever3]

Well you do need to carbonate iron to make good steel. And myth/internet rumour has it that vikings did use bones to do just that. So headcanon could be that. Although using a furry to make a sword would imply putting a curse on it.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Something-something-quenching a blade in blood-something.

[@CRYOKnox]

Do you know what makes Skyforge steel so special? Its the ash and blood of a werewolf. Serana just was smithing the iron at just the right time.

[@shinyagumon7015]

I will never understand why Nintendo refuses to give us western fans Mother 3. They'll give us Lucas in Smash and even re-release Mother 1 internationally as Earthbound Beginnings, but Mother 3 is apparently too much to ask for. Also shout out to everyone who does fan translations regardless of what medium, you are saints and I respect your dedication.

[@michaelnettles3059]

They think we can't handle the power of Mother 3. We will prove them wrong.

[@smashpro1]

The original version was released on GBA at a time when Nintendo of America wanted their handheld marketing to focus exclusively on the DS. The Virtual Console version wasn't released in the west because it was on the Wii U.

[@H0lyMoley]

I don't know what it is about much-anticipated third installments of popular franchises that fail to appear. It's almost as though videogame franchises have a natural... half life. (Yep, that doesn't even work as a metaphor. I'll get my coat.)

[@Chernobog2]

a theory I've seen is that it's entirely due to the Mag*psies. in the 2000's the very idea of GNC characters could've potentially caused outrage among parents in America. Nowadays while being GNC is more socially acceptable the Mag*psies could be seen as outdated and stereotypical depictions (it also doesn't help that g*psy is now recognized as an ethnic slur, though a simple name change could fix that

[@Altoryu]

At this point why would they even care? Fans already did their work for them so not like they need to get off their asses to make a more official version for people. Though considering their attitude to fan projects in general I could be wrong though pretty sure I read somewhere that the person who created the Mother series is pretty alright with fan projects.

[@ZeeZeeVee]

You could make an entire series about things fans had to fix for just skyrim alone

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

Like the lack of trains

[@luisyupari]

@@mycatistypingthis5450 please elaborate

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

@@luisyupari I was referring to the mod that changes dragons to Thomas the Tank engine.

[@luisyupari]

@@mycatistypingthis5450 my god

[@Chris_Sizemore]

You could make an entire list of Fallout bugs that kept reappearing in later editions of the game. The Creation Engine plus Bethsda's perchance of recycling code between games had them reintroducing bugs they fixed in previous games that somehow made it past their QA and needed to be fixed again after release.

[@archellothewolf2083]

You know you're doing good when Nintendo allows a fan project without filing a cease and disist.

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

6:00 Considering the crew on Mars received a shipment of CHAINSAWS, I'm only mildly surprised by the absence of ol' reliable ductape ;7

[@krampusklaws2238]

or any kind of adhesive strips on a roll

[@ivanhunter6492]

"if you want something done right do it yourself"

[@michaelsouslin891]

Or if you're American like me pay sumbody way more qualified and hard working to do it right 😆

[@hcitask]

That's what I am doing with the DOOM 3 BFG Edition

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

Exactly. If it's done wrong than damn straight do it yourself and laugh at the dumbasses who fucked it up....

[@BlackDonMetallo]

Bethesda could fill a list of their own in this category.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Or could they? They've made and released more than just Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Heck, if ESO could take a spot, then Bethesda had next to nothing to do with that game. That was all Zenimax.

[@OniGanon]

Individual Bethesda games could each fill their own list in this category.

[@enlongjones2394]

Shulk kinda was a known factor. There was that whole “project rainfall” campaign from fans to basically beg for certain RPGs to get localized on the Wii. Xenoblade was one of them.

[@Xaiclun]

A shame the other two didn't get so big. The Last Story and Pandora's Tower were amazing games

[@garsedj]

It was weirder at the time of the gamecube, now everybody screams you that those character come from an rpg you never played

[@NuminorTheFool]

I wouldn't say amazing but they're fairly decent. TLS I think will forver just be known as Sakaguchi not being able to name another game Final Fantasy and Pandora can be summed up as man goes into tower to find meat for his missus while she stays home and looks after the house.

[@SpoonOfDoom]

The Titanfall 2 campaign was short, but absolutely brilliant and BT was an amazing companion.

[@warp302]

I still love campaign especially the time traveling mission where your swapping time and free running

[@SpoonOfDoom]

@@warp302 probably one of the best levels in any shooter ever

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

My Favorite FPS campaign of all time. I'm still waiting for Titanfall 3 and the Return of BT due to the End credit scene of TF2.

[@Toboloco]

Great game and the online is still fun!

[@acorr14]

What was wild to me was that they managed to make me prefer playing as a pilot instead of the big robot. By the end of the campaign I was actually disappointed when I didn't get to play in pilot mode lol, the movement just felt so good.

[@frodobaggins7710]

I never even got to discover the end of the Companions questline in Skyrim because one of the missions glitched out and caused the game to think I'd completed it, even though I hadn't spoken to the person that was needed for me to complete the quest. And by the time I realised, it was too late to reload

[@ellathompson6052]

That’s just the Skyrim experience, my friend!

[@Altoryu]

@@ellathompson6052 More like the Bethesda experience amirite

[@FelisImpurrator]

Heh. I'm always a mage main in games, and yet when I played... My College questline was unsalvageably broken, preventing me from entering the barrow with the dragon priest Morokei. Reload old save? Still busted. No mods, just the game as Todd intended.

[@tubensalat1453]

@@FelisImpurrator For me it was one of the low points in that game when I couldn't even get the quest line started (Tolfdir didn't fire at me); searching the inet and trying stuff to get around it sure wasn't fun.

[@danielmiller3596]

I have three Skyrim games with this story, Companions (and the Cleansing), can’t recall the second one, and getting a glitch at the end. It is the BethSoft way.

[@rrodey]

These fans deserve the attention they deserved, they’ve saved some good games!

[@BLOODLUSST666]

what is the game without fans to keep it cool???

[@fabianlaibin6956]

@Alvaro Chavarria it doesn't just look good, it's perfect.

[@basicjenkins]

Mike just casually slipping in a Venetian Snares reference. Legend.

[@ShadowOfTwilight]

I know, right? I had to go back and listen again ‘cause I couldn’t believe my ears!

[@basicjenkins]

@@ShadowOfTwilight plus, y’know, unlike Greg, Mike Loves Car Culture.

[@gumeme]

hey there, is that the corner where the idm/oxbox fans intersection hangout?

[@basicjenkins]

@@gumeme Yes, but shhhh. Quick close the door.

[@wwklnd]

This is the *second* time this week someone says something that makes me go and relisten to Rossz Csillag Alatt Született. Also, look at vinyl prices and try to make responsible financial decisions.

[@dima_keller]

1:05 Wow! It really hurt when Mike started laughing at that question

[@TheEquestrianGallade]

Overdosing on hopium for Frontiers right now.

[@Michael_Lindell]

1. I see they're making something playable out of "Sonic Oh S***". 2. My favourite FanDoom.

[@Kozoku]

The new sonic frontiers gameplay reveal was giving me sonic 06 vibes.

[@AngelBeatYunara]

Saints Row 2 on the pc had... a lot of problems. Thankfully someone named IdolNinja was there to fix a lot of it with his Gentlemen of the Row mod. May he rest in peace.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

May it finally be released successfully in the next few years or less.

[@SkyRied1]

He's dead? 😮🙁

[@Avrysatos]

@@SkyRied1 Oh no, you didn't know? He was working on it till he died from cancer. He also was super excited for us all to see the new saints row game coming out. He died the day the announcement trailer hit and never got to see the overwhelming negative reactions out there from loud people online. If it's something he thinks we'll love I trust it and am hyped for the new saint's row, you know? Anyways, this death was not a surprise, he knew, everyone knew, deep silver was even super kind and helpful to him at the end, and he left the project in the hands of others. When the new saints row 2 fixes come out it'll be free to everyone that already owns that steam copy of saints row 2 and will have a LOT of the gentlemen of the row fixes, the (previously xbox only) dlc, and the multiplayer features that were done through gamespy very poorly will go through steam. It won't be compatible with your old save files. It's not just a patch, they got ahold of the source code and are FIXING it.

[@crows2808]

huh, I thought you'd have gone with Daggerfall, where Bethesda did not fix a game-stopping bug even after an enormous amount of patches. By that point, they'd written off the game and called it quits. A user mod had to fix that. Also gave us the ability to warp from quest location to quest location inside the massive, asset flipped dungeons. It's one thing when you have to explore a massive environment for the main game, quite another when you need to do the enormous number of randomly generated quests from guild and rando NPCs. Anyway, that's one of the reasons I don't get the affection some people have for the bugs in Bethesda games. Some of the games are good, but the company does not care about giving you a working product.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

A lot of the bugs in Bethesda games are more fun quirks than truly game breaking stuff, and those are fairly enjoyable, essentially Bethesdas trademark (stuff like the mistagged cheese being a good example, or the various superpower glitches) Which is why people like them. When there is game breaking stuff that makes the game literally unplayable, Bethesda fans do get rather irate. Bethesda not fixing them promptly is why they aren't as highly rated as they coukd be.

[@drake713]

yeah, there is a huge difference in sims swimming in the floor because you moved them from the pool vs being locked in a restaurant because the waiter is a transforming vampire who loses your food to the void.

[@begoodjohnny1866]

This just reminded me of a bug I had in Morrowind, where I could never talk with the dude you're supposed to in the first mission. Either he was sleeping, or not in his house. I tried to pay it several times before I gave up. That was my first and only foray into The Elder Scrolls games.

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

@Mister Han 2000 fun glitches like say yeeting a brief case Into someone's skull in hit man or when I played COD zombies the zombie would stretch out like taffy...and stay like that or a head get stuck in the wall. I've had zombies run into walls and it's absolutely hilarious. Now game breaking crap like a timing error when jumping is annoying. I used to play a game called legands where the boss would freeze for about 5-7 seconds in a staff to the ground kneeling pose...and it was more of an exploit.

[@cericat]

Arena, Daggerfall... seriously every Bethesda game is a buggy mess on release with at least one that will kill the game in some manner, ie the saving bug that mostly hurt console players of FO3, FONV, and Skyrim (mostly Skyrim). The day they release a game without one, or actually fix most of the more serious bugs I will die of shock.

[@unknowable4147]

I refer to my previous comment for a suggestion; The sims 4 (especially my wedding stories) We couldn't save, nothing worked, getting married was near impossible and if it wasn't for our dear modders I don't know where we would be

[@annana6098]

Sims has a long history of this, I was hoping to see it included.

[@TessaOswin]

I would also add sims 3 island living. That maps and dlc was broken from the start which is so sad cos I want to be a free-roaming mermaid darn it.

[@SerathDarklands]

As someone who has played through _Mother 3,_ I can say from experience that they did an amazing job with the translation. I has the same kind of odd, quirky feel that _Earthbound_ does.

[@anglewyrm3849]

It should also be noted that sometimes developers take an adversarial attitude toward players, or judge the quality of their work with a score system quite different from what a player would choose. And thus modifications (mods) have a market for providing different takes on the rules of the game.

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

Yeah sometimes it feels like Developers hate it when players enjoy their game in an unintended way when they constantly patch out fun things while ignoring literal game breaking bugs.

[@venator-yv1gw]

It’s purely because the companions are werewolves that Serana was smithing. A vampire princess flexing on a bunch of doggos writes itself

[@lightsideofsin8969]

The whole and only reason that Trials of Mana and the Collection of Mana had any hype in the west was because of dedicated fan translators. If Nintendo and Square Enix give me no legal way to pay for a game, the emulation community will find a way. Now that the game has been remade and the old one ported to the Switch, I have purchased both. I no longer emulate the game because I finally have the option to legally pay money for and play my favourite game. But I have been playing Trials of Mana (Secret of Mana 2 back then) since I was 5 years old because of the dedicated work of fans and I'm eternally grateful for it.

[@chrismanuel9768]

Facts. There's no port of Rune Factory Frontier for PC, but who has a Wii anymore? So emulation it is! I figure it's fine because I actually bought the game for the Wii anyhow, I'm just playing it on different hardware

[@lightsideofsin8969]

@@chrismanuel9768 Yeah, I agree. You did buy the game legitimately so it's should be your choice how to play it. I usually only emulate games that are impossible to buy either because there's no official version outside Japan or because it's so old and way too expensive.

[@cericat]

Yep thanks FuSoYa and others who did way too much work because Square wouldn't for Seiken Densetsu 2.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Nintendo: *laughs in lawsuits & DMCAs*

[@multiverserift]

Man, it was a wild ride downloading this thing from my parent's pc, trying to zip it via a few floppy discs and transport it to my PC to play it. Most of the floppy discs were faulty, so I had to restart the copying process. A lot.

[@0PercentImagination]

Its always nice to see people try to improve actually bad or flawed games instead of dogpiling on whatever is popular, I wish I had the knowhow/skill to do it myself so I could fix up random stuff.

[@MrHypnofan]

The way she slowly grabbed the sword and appears to stare at you, makes it seem like some kind of power move.

[@Emerl18]

11:13 "to seek out the fanfics on their own" I have the feeling Andy will regret this turn of phrase.

[@alexpage4355]

"Earthbound was received extremely well in the west...." In what world did _that_ happen? I'm guessing they probably _did_ get an official translation of Mother 3, and there would've been much rejoicing. Meanwhile, in our universe, it went on to _become_ a cult classic, but it was _received_ horribly... not helped in the slightest by horribly misguided marketing. I mean, when the ads are literally telling you "This game stinks!", you shouldn't be overly surprised when the customers respond with, "All right! I'll go play something else, then!"

[@TheBronyBraeburn]

From my understanding, releasing the game near the very end of the SNES life cycle did it no favors. I was a Sega Genesis fan as a kid and it physically hurts to see so many people say "I owned a Genesis back in the day but I had no idea that *insert awesome game here* existed until decades later." All because said game was released in 1995 or later.

[@alexpage4355]

@@TheBronyBraeburn That certainly didn't help, but it underperformed, even compared to other, late-gen RPGs, like Chrono Trigger, which came out the same year and also didn't have the luxury of brand recognition as part of an established IP.

[@lordpsi99]

It was received extremely well in the west by the people who actually bought it. He didn't say it sold extremely well. Bladerunner 2049 was received extremely well but didn't sell that many tickets (although it did ok in sales, in my opinion, but I consider breaking even a considerable achievement, the movie will live on and only keep gaining love exponentially).

[@LilacMonarch]

@@lordpsi99 Yeah. It's one of those cases where poor advertising made it fall into obscurity until the internet came along to pick it back up.

[@Darcnhife]

@@TheBronyBraeburn I saw a full 1-page (possibly two, but I think it all fit on one) advertisement for Chrono Trigger in a gaming magazine, and magazines themselves had guides on it, and awesome, fantastic artwork alongside it. The boxart as well was fantastic even though inaccurate (and tragic) as Marle doesn't use fire magic. (Maybe they thought she wasn't enough of a beauty. But everyone was a beauty in that game. Except for Toma. Seeing what he actually looked like from the official art dispelled my concept of him being chic and mysterious.) I can see why it sold well, that one page advertisement for Chrono Trigger hooked me. I loved to spend my time just admiring it. Same with the Megaman X3 page of advertisement. Loved the artwork, and inspired me to get the game. I rented Megaman X before it in anticipation. Zero was radical. How heroic. How gallant. Also, thought she was a girl. Tut, tut, too bad, too bad...

[@SolaScientia]

Depending on the bug/glitch, I sometimes find them endearing in a way. I've never played far into Skyrim (more of a Kingdoms of Amalur person, like Ellen), but I was laughing at the blacksmith working away at the funeral and I'm pretty sure I'd have left it like that because it's so funny.

[@GhostBear3067]

That sort of sentiment is why the glitch of getting launched into the stratosphere when smacked by a giant stayed in, and was even incorporated as a feature in the VR version.

[@Pseudowolf]

I like that she stares at the player the whole time. Like, "Yeah, I'm doing this. What're you gonna do about it?"

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

@@Pseudowolf it's such a big "fuck you" move

[@alexkuhn5188]

@@GhostBear3067 that glitch got patched out then patched BACK IN due to how much demand there was for it!

[@ulfrick11]

If you sat through the credits of titanfall 2, a scene plays the implies BT downloaded himself into Cooper's helmet.

[@AdderTude]

Too bad Respawn isn't interested in doing Titanfall 3, since they're too focused on Apex. Much like Epic is far too focused on Battle Royale to ever give Save the World (the real Fortnite game to the players that actually helped fund it) a fighting chance.

[@LunaPPK]

we never going to now the truth of that since you know respawn being shitters sold out for easy Battle royal bucks and has shown plenty of times to ignore the TF community

[@jeremygilbert7989]

How did Kotor 2 not make this list? The Sith Lords Restoration mod was years in the making and turned a rushed but ok game into an exceptional one on par with its game of the year predecessor.

[@DeathByInsanity]

Was it not In the last list?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Yes, it's on the last list. Oh, and it's so good it's becoming KotOR II DLC for the upcoming Nintendo Switch port release (and I heard it'll be free).

[@zulubunsen9067]

I would like to remind everyone that back in the day Oxbox used to have an "Aliens: Colonial Marines jar" to put money into whenever someone would start to go on a tirade about the problems with the game. Time to find it in storage and put some more into it.

[@chris18560]

My favorite part of the video is Andy saying “you can watch the original up here” while gesturing to the 7 More Genius Ways Games Justified Stuff video. Surely this was caused by a glitch.

[@obieldenook1142]

The Unofficial Patches for Oblivion are my favorite. However, I really want to try the Sonic '06' fix mentioned in this video. I so want to try out the fixed versions of these games.

[@aaronkj8797]

I feel like Mass Effect 3 is another good one, there’s a multitude of mods that make the game a lot better than the regular version, like EGM, MEHEM, Project Variety etc

[@michaelandreipalon359]

This. A bit of a shame the LE didn't officially utilize some EGM stuff in its content.

[@danielharvison7510]

I'm thinking of the mod you could use that allowed you to have more than 50 saves per game in ME3. Would have been nice if they let us holster our weapon on missions too, that was just ludicrous. It was because the console versions needed to shave off a couple of megs of stuff that was loaded into system memory, so they chose to cut the ability to holster weapons. So...damned...annoying!

[@42Dragons]

That may be very true, but Mass Effect 3 didn't really need to be FIXED. There were many improvements that could be made, but the game worked just fine.

[@prismknight353]

anyone makes a video on players fixing games. Bethesda: “Hold My Beer”

[@dnakatomiuk]

Titanfall 2s official servers don't work due to a constant hacker who's been doing it since 2021, the rumor is he tried to con Respawn for a job on a cancelled game called Titanfall Online. You still can't play on the official servers it will work for one day then stop. EA/Respawn won't fix it at all But fans now have fixed it with the Northstar client I just waiting on them adding frontia defence Publisher's/developers should pay these fans who fix the games for their troube

[@AdderTude]

Respawn is too fixated on Apex to really give Titanfall as a series another look...despite the fact that Apex takes place in the Titanfall universe.

[@Roxor128]

They should turn over the copyright to them as well. Unlike the publishers, they clearly know what to do with it.

[@jacobwells9207]

I wonder when the modding community will realize they're being used by gaming companies to fix their games for free, which contributes to the companies' "fix it later" mentality

[@alwaysxnever]

I mean. Modders have been doing this for decades. Long before incompetence was the reason. The mentality hasn't anything to do with the consumers but the companies themselves who should shoulder the blame . Not fans trying to play a game.

[@unpunlievable]

@@alwaysxnever yeah, also one of their examples was about how Nintendo is still ignoring the western world's desire for mother 3 even after such a huge and well-received English translation project

[@jacobwells9207]

@@alwaysxnever If that's true, then stop modding and let the companies suffer for their incompetence

[@cericat]

The attitude isn't from modders fixing stuff, ie Bethesda always sucked in this regard. Arena never got fixes for a lot of release bugs. The attitude is just from "we got our money and they can't get refunds so ha ha."

[@gsgaming6976]

I mean, yeah greed is an issue but also like.... Time is a limited factor? Devs could spend decades making the perfect game only to have the software of the time outpace them by the time they're finished. You can also spend thousands of hours of time playtesting and still not catch bugs that millions of users interacting with the game in ways you never imagined would produce. I'm not saying you're wrong, or that corporate greed doesn't exist, especially with things like micro transactions. But some incomplete games, like VtM Bloodlines and KotOR II I really do feel like we're big ambitious labors of love that just didn't have the resources they needed to realize their vision because life is complicated. They can only justify spending as much developing the game as they're expecting to make back you know?

[@plageran]

gotta love when a community can come together and grind on

[@JoeBuk724]

I distinctively remember playing Sonic 06 in front of my friend. Who after hearing me talk about it for a while said “it sounds like you really want to like it but dont” lol. Its a shame, what they wanted to do sounded great. Most of its issues stem from not being in the oven long enough.Just goes to show why you should never rush out a game early.

[@rakewind]

Earthbound is still one of my all time favorite RPGs. I was very excited to discover the fan translation of the sequel shortly before they finished it. Mother 3 isn't as good as Earthbound but I'm glad I got the chance to play it. There are lots of other amazing games from this time period that were only released in Japan that have fan translations as well.

[@carsongiles7024]

Holy crap they took my suggestion

[@heathernicol3026]

I love the continuity of Mike translating what he said in the last video. A+, good job, well done. xD

[@SquishyProductions]

The fact that these modders aren't gobbled up by companies for their drive, passion, and skills is a red flag bigger than the continent of Australia just how out of touch the industry is.

[@dima_keller]

I loved Doom 3. And the fact that you can't use flashlight alongside a real weapon does not mean you can't slay demons. I killed my first pinky demon with a flashlight

[@whocares9033]

I have to imagine that the people praising that mod are afraid of the dark

[@michaelandreipalon359]

In Berserker mode, even.

[@ArchHippy]

I remember seeing quite well with only the muzzle flash.

[@starscreamsniper926]

If he ever finishes Project Sonic06 I would love to play it.

[@n-rage531]

I actually made a mod for The Sims 2 to cover the whole neightborhood in snow during winter for the Seasons Expansion. For some reason despite having a 7 feet layer of snow covering my house, when I would switch to the neighborhood view, there would only be some minuscule snow patches and lots of green grass exposed. I posted the mod on an old sims 2 mod site and it was very popular. It only took me about 5 minutes to make the mod, think Maxis owed me some money there.

[@t1mast3r7]

This video is probably my new favorite. The joke in the intro, the callback to the Japanese translation joke, and my enjoyment in seeing the Northstar mod getting some attention all made it entertaining and memorable. Great video!

[@senpafl4405]

7:47 Studied Japanese for about 6 years now, still my reaction when I see what I'm still missing. Seriously, that language is an endless abyss XD

[@nvelsen1975]

Try Cantonese. 4 tones in Mandarin difficult to master? The Cantonese said "Pff, uneducated amateurs" and went for 9 different tones.

[@Strathclydegamer]

More of that sweet oxbox content, always a mood booster 😁

[@markj3169]

if you weren't playing DOOM 3 with that Hello Kitty flashlight mod I can't help you

[@goodmanpatryk7155]

Skyrim VR is the best example. So many features added wich feel so essential were added in mods and make game immersive

[@James-gj8rn]

There was nothing wrong with the original video Andy, it was a great one :'D

[@schuylerevans5094]

I feel you should add the restored content mod for knights of the old republic 2. It really enhances the story of the game and fixes several plot holes caused by the games rushed development. It was such a popular mod that aspyr are putting the mod in the regular re-releases of the game.

[@retrogamernes3121]

That was discussed in the first video of fan fixes

[@schuylerevans5094]

@@retrogamernes3121 yeah I didn’t see the commenter edition sign on it initially then I saw the original video and I was like dang it

[@tylerthompson5859]

The way Serana looked at Aela right before the end looked like she was just asked "do you mind?" And her reply was "No, not at all", and she just continues forging.

[@Alex_YJ_Reed]

Mike's unending grudge against Aliens: Colonial Marines is something I keep forgetting about, and it's so much fun being reminded about it. Also, we need the inverse of this list: 7 High-profile Mods That Completely Missed What Made the Original Game Great. Mostly, I just want this to hear you guys rail on Hunt Down the Freeman and Fallout: The Frontier.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

There's Deus Ex: Revision, but that's my opinion.

[@zulubunsen9067]

"Having more glitches than a Venetian Snares album" is an unexpected line but a very welcome one and now it got me wondering who the breakcore fan might be among the crew.

[@MumonguGaming]

Would never complain, Andy. Stellar job as always. That outro though....Hmmm

[@Icam_here]

love that bit about Mike learning what he said about himself in japanese in the previous video on this topic

[@truehopey8045]

I genuinely never expected to hear a reference to Venetian Snares on an OxBox video! Now I love you even more!

[@FaTerokiMenra]

If there's a third version I hope you split out translations for non localized games because that could easily take over an entire video and be its own thing.

[@mariawhite7337]

I would add in Sailor Moon another world onto that list. As a kid I would have grabbed that game in a instant. Huge Sailor Moon fan. Huge RPG fan. I've played the translations and adored each one. There are even patches that fix some of the translation errors! Its wonderful and it honestly is a good game.

[@nashvontookus7451]

Hell, you could make the entire video exclusively be about Nintendo.

[@myst6673]

*Cough* Final Fantasy IV *cough*

[@rissaarei5336]

"Fans translating thousands of lines" me laughing in a minor European language at English speaking folks thinking this is something out of the ordinary.

[@rissaarei5336]

@Avalie Which was exactly my point.

[@Mr_.G]

I think this Channel needs to do a detailed video about every broken Bethesda game. Could be quite a long video, but think of all that monetisation LOL

[@sebastianwlodarczyk]

Great reference to the subtitles in the previous list:)

[@PseudoNom]

At the very least, Sonic the Hedgehog did have fantastic music!

[@rileymiller3154]

Serana "right I'm going to start making the grave marker or something like that for everyone to remember him by" Everyone else "ok but did you have to start now" Serana "yep"

[@bbriiannz]

I was there when the Mother 3 fan translation was in development! The man behind it, who goes by Tomato, wrote a blog about it as he was working on it.

[@unokitsune]

For the Doom series and being an actual gun owner, gun mods are made to have both flashlight and laser on your gun. They are expensive but they exist! And yes, anyone military may have one or law enforcement. The flashlights and lasers are so bright, they are blinding.

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

But some good ole duct tape and a mini flashlight works...

[@kaneprenter9011]

There is a mod for fallout 3 and new vegas called tale of 2 wastelands, that not only lets you switch between games at will but also means you dont have to put time into getting fallout 3 working on windows 10

[@gorimbaud]

Brawl was out before the Mother 3 fantran, though, so Lucas's inclusion wouldn't have had anything to do with its reception. It has more to do with both franchises having started at HAL Labs. Lucas was originally planned to be in Melee, but got cut due to Mother 3's long, troubled development cycle meaning the game wouldn't be out for another five years.

[@sagacious03]

Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@Xeragon]

I'm pretty sure the ending of Titanfall 2 implies that BT is still alive (his "brain" was copied in your helmet) and would just need to be rebuilt.

[@nromdotcom]

I'm just saying, we need a Sonic game that's a "real-time with pause" tactical RPG that takes place in the classic 90s comic universe. I know it's only loosely relevant to this video, but I'm just trying to put the idea out into the universe as often as possible in order to manifest it.

[@SorcererLance]

That's Sonic Chronicles, which the former comic writer Ken Penders sued Bioware for "stealing" his ideas... And is the reason we'll never see Shade again

[@nromdotcom]

@@SorcererLance that sounds exactly perfect. I see it was on DS which explains why I hadn't heard of it.

[@cericat]

@@nromdotcom it got shit talked a lot by players which helped to ensure it'll probably never be done again too.

[@o.k.productions5202]

If you’re taking more suggestions I would recommend Space engineers, modders have been fixing the game since before it’s final release.

[@tristanrouse6150]

There's one Bethesda game that does not need patching for the game or for its first DLC: Prey 2017, the Mooncrash DLC

[@THNWraith]

Everyones favourite cuddly murder furries is possibly the best line in any OX video. Had me in literal tears of laughter.

[@zantheros4927]

"cuddly murder furries" That is officially the new name of the Companions.

[@marhawkman303]

hmmmm are hey cuddly though? murderous and furry, yes, but cuddly?

[@zantheros4927]

@@marhawkman303 I dunno, if you have a male werewolf character, might be nice to snuggle up with Aela. XD

[@jackweighill-diceaveragerp2056]

Fans have made a launch program for Guilty Gear STRIVE that cuts its 2 minute long boot time down to about 20 seconds

[@browninplay]

Literally every modern Bethesda open world game, almost every aspect of them - you need quest fix patches, combat overhauls, missing/upgraded texture replacements - everything! :')

[@TonytheTono]

I had the most amusing glitches in titanfall 2. I once ended up joining the enemies in the escape ship somehow and was just shooting them from inside their own vehicle; I got ejected in orbit and fell back into the map. In an especially laggy game, I had the UI slowly rotate clockwise on me until I finally died.

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

I used to play wizard101 and we'd make our characters kneel...and skid around like we where in ski's

[@LAZERAK47V2]

The fact that the devs released a broken patch that ruined the patch that fixed the game THEY broke and just left it in that state is BEYOND scummy. Personally, I despise the fact that some companies pull crap like this. They break the game with a patch and then just bail on it, leaving it in a garbage state and making it impossible to get a refund because it worked fine before they broke it. A good modern example is Firaxis and 2K. Their future patches in CIV VI ruined a ton of game features (one even bugged the AI into overprioritizing Science, meaning any and all Domination/Culture/Faith AIs all behaved the exact same way). What are they doing about it? Releasing an incredibly buggy launcher that nobody asked for that negatively impacts game performance. I kid you not, their tech support recommends *BYPASSING* the Launcher. Yeah, your OWN employees are telling people that your product sucks!

[@Account037154]

Civ 6 isn't the only game to receive that treatment. XCOM 2, also by Firaxis and 2K, got a new launcher of their own not to long ago. Unfortunately though, it broke mod support on a lot of mods. So once again the community had to step in and create a community made launcher to bypass the broken official one.

[@rainmaker3082]

I haven't watched this yet but I'm guessing it's going to be Skyrim all 7 times, once for each rerelease?

[@backpug1228]

When LoversLab fixes/improved the "romance" system of Skyrim 🤣

[@bunniluvd]

Aela: members of the circle- Sirana: *casually smithing at the background*

[@MythicBeanProductions]

Personally I'm amazed at some of the Skyrim mods that I've seen. Especially the ones that add depth to characters. The Serana mod comes to mind as I downloaded it for fun and suddenly she had dialogue for practically every mission in the game. The dedication and care is awesome

[@Mrkitterman]

I had 800hrs in skyrim in the first 2 months it came out. That was my first play through next 500+, and the last run was 900+

[@Feasco]

fun fact about the Unofficial Skyrim Patch: the creator is an absolute diva who will include a lot of unnecessary changes to the game world according to his singular vision and will throw a tizzy if anyone uploads a patch that reverts those changes (see the story about Oblivion gates inside cities for the most famous example)

[@RageUnchained]

Please tell me there’s some sort of video essay on this? I love me some interwebz drama

[@LunaPPK]

lol wut

[@Gokenshiba]

Earth bound 2 is such a goooood game, I still remember everything about it. Ness's baseball bat lol and firecrackers, I even had the guide that came with the original with the scratch and sniff stickers

[@equinoxeternal]

i used to take advantage of every single glitch and bug that occurred in 06 sonic, while everyone else got the game breaking glitches and bugs i got the glitches and bugs that helped me clear certain parts where you'd normally be stuck.

[@pinkliongaming8769]

I already knew titanfall 2 was gonna be here

[@barryallen2240]

Same

[@pinkliongaming8769]

@@barryallen2240 What the Flash!

[@betteryou7hanme]

Serana is voiced by Laura Bailey. She voiced Abby in TLOU2, so making a sword at a funeral is only the second worst thing one of her characters has ever done. It ain't easy growing up with Vegeta for a father.

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

Wonder how many times she heard her dad referred to as vegetable....

[@Brasc]

Oh wait, there was also Grand Theft Auto 5/Grand Theft Auto Online where a fan named T0ST figured out why the loading time for the game was so horrendous and came up with a fix to reduce it back in February of 2021. Rockstar ended up introducing it into their own fix a couple of months later in April 2021.

[@DeadHornetGaming]

i love this channel i always enjoy these videos

[@TheMan83554]

re: Bethesda "It just works, it just works, little lies, stunning shows, people buy, money flows it just woooooork"

[@kennethschick4304]

this is gonna be a list of 7 Bethesda games

[@anon_y_mousse]

Forging in the middle of a funeral has got to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

[@yoshilu7451]

In the last "7 Times Fans Fixed a Game" video Mike's subtitles were an awkward translation of "my face looks like a monkey butt", for those who don't remember😆 He now knows the truth