7 Years Later... Should I Sell My Acura NSX?

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Zygrene

Zygrene

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@rj8954
@rj8954 9 ай бұрын
As a long time viewer of your channel, here are my thoughts: your passion for track driving and KZbin is evident, yet I believe your NSX is in a way holding back your potential. With your preference to maintain a two-car garage, you always have to choose a daily driver that's also track-capable to keep the NSX in the picture. I think you're due for a pure, hardcore track-dedicated car, built or bought. I personally would love to see you build a dedicated track car, I think it'd do great for your channel too. Nonetheless, now that you're not obligated to retain the NSX, consider foregoing the compromise of a dual purpose vehicle and embrace the thrill of a genuine track beast.
@tigim101
@tigim101 9 ай бұрын
this is the way
@davidzebar6876
@davidzebar6876 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, man needs a track prepped dc2
@alexlai2580
@alexlai2580 9 ай бұрын
Despite giving you a hard time on IG DMs about not going all in on the NSX, I think you should go something like a K-swapped Elise! Forgo the “date night” requirement. Go all in on a dedicated track car. The build process could also double as YT content.
@rj8954
@rj8954 9 ай бұрын
@@davidzebar6876 i don't think he's gonna go with a FWD if he goes with a built car.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 9 ай бұрын
Dedicated track car would need a trailer, which means tow vehicle, so maybe just the most trackable yet still street legal and deliverable to the track?
@pab3783
@pab3783 9 ай бұрын
I have sold many cars. Regret never lasts. I fully understand wanting new experiences in car ownership, particularly high performance driving experiences.
@Carlos.Rivera
@Carlos.Rivera 9 ай бұрын
I want to sell my modded FRS to have cash around for new projects lile RX8, Mustang GT or old school muscle car
@TheBucketOfTruth
@TheBucketOfTruth 9 ай бұрын
I haven't sold a lot of cars but regret more the cars I didn't buy than the ones I've gotten rid of.
@Genevagirls-h2x
@Genevagirls-h2x 9 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. Regret never lasts. At the very core we are enthusiasts, its not necessarily getting bored of old things its more a wanting to try new things out. I say sell it, make a nice chunk (if you can) and on to the next fun vehicle. Good luck either way!
@overbuiltlimited
@overbuiltlimited 9 ай бұрын
I sold a Ducati 996SPS (yes it's a motorcycle I know) and 16 years later I still miss that bike and regret selling it. Also miss my M3, the 66 Mustang convertible, the really cool VW type 3, the Ducati Monster with amazing sounding Keihin flatside carbs.
@esqu1re
@esqu1re 9 ай бұрын
As a current nsx owner, I understand your feelings. I've had the same. But, there is no other car that is as "special" for the price. Those who know, know, and will strike up conversations with you. I haven't owned my car for 7 years yet, but the specialness and uniqueness of this car still does it for me. The fear that something will break with which there is no replacement part does scare me. Good luck with whatever decision you make!
@pab3783
@pab3783 9 ай бұрын
Your ownership seems to center around driving hard/track days. You’re right, it’s not the right vessel for that and it’s a lot of $ in the garage. I say sell and go for a c7 z06 (w cooling mods). Of course, you’ll go for your cup of tea. Always enjoy your cars.
@cingkole7893
@cingkole7893 9 ай бұрын
+1
@waveslicer
@waveslicer 9 ай бұрын
Even a C6 Z06 would be good... and personally I prefer how it looks over the C7
@pab3783
@pab3783 9 ай бұрын
@@waveslicer I have a c6 z51 for weekend and track. They’re a performance bargain. Great cars.
@HtriZzy_
@HtriZzy_ 9 ай бұрын
I second this. The C7z does it all. 2017+ for the revised lid and coolers. Or you can always go aftermarket with a 2015-2016. Can't beat it for the money.
@barryrodgers3039
@barryrodgers3039 9 ай бұрын
I've owned an NSX for around the same amount of time you have. In that time, I have rotated through a Fiesta ST, FK8 CTR, and a Tesla M3P for my daily. The M3P is about to be replaced by a 992 Carrera T. That is going to be the first real competition to the NSX, but even then it won't be as special. I don't think I could replace the NSX without going to something like a Lambo or Ferrari. The NSX doesn't just bring me joy, but joy to others everytime I drive it. I have never had a car that gets attention like this. I also love the NSX community. I do a local group meet at the Tail of the Dragon every year and last year I went to NSXPO in Atlanta and had the most fun I've ever had at any car event. I'm still trying to get my car perfectly sorted. I've very close. I'm comtemplating getting the suspension setup that you have.
@derktheterk
@derktheterk 9 ай бұрын
I was looking for a very similar dream car when trading in my 987.2 Cayman S. The 981 GT4 was near the top of my list for all the reasons you mentioned. When my local dealer had a 981 Spyder I couldn't pass it up. The torque, manual trans, engine/exhaust sound combined with all the "luxury" of a modern chassis and car made it impossible to pass up. I think the only car I could see myself trading the Spyder in for, would be a 991.2 GT3 with a manual trans. At 100k mid engine you're at a goldilocks zone for performance cars that the laws of diminishing returns starts to apply. Good luck with the search!
@hamidakintomide5644
@hamidakintomide5644 9 ай бұрын
Like you said I think the only viable replacement would be a GT4 - will give you that blend of use-ability and enough of a "special" car feeling as well with driving dynamics you know you love. However, I feel like if you keep the NSX and almost force yourself to drive it more often you'll fall back in love with it. As a long term viewer I know how much you love your hondas/acuras and this really is your dream car, would be sad to see it go. In a weird way, long term, I don't think you'd miss it if you sold it but you wouldn't love any car as much as it.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
I think you're onto something. Anything less than a Porsche GT car will still feel like a interim solution. Until then, the NSX just needs more love.
@EstorilE36M345
@EstorilE36M345 9 ай бұрын
Why not do a little bit of upholstery work to perfect the NSX, add some creature comforts, and then daily the NSX?
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 9 ай бұрын
@@EstorilE36M345 agreed, that drivers seat has gone beyond 'patina' haha!
@jn4988
@jn4988 9 ай бұрын
Gts 4.0 is the way. A modded one will easily keep up if not surpass a gt4. If the gt4 is modded your outta luck. gts 4.0 90% of a gt4 end of day.
@alexlai2580
@alexlai2580 9 ай бұрын
@@ZygreneK-swapped Elise.
@champloogamingtv7447
@champloogamingtv7447 9 ай бұрын
I think the worst part is the time/money spent to maintain a car you barely drive. If money isn’t a factor, sure why not keep, but if it is, there’s only so much time/money that can be allocated to something that’s barely used, especially as you get older.
@flat6croc
@flat6croc 9 ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. But I'm always amazed how little most so-called driver's cars actually get driven. The reality is that most people barely drive their toys.
@champloogamingtv7447
@champloogamingtv7447 9 ай бұрын
@@flat6croc by the time you can afford these drivers cars, you’re too busy to enjoy them lol
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
@@champloogamingtv7447 man, that's the truth. If I had as much time as I did in my early 20s, I'd probably go rip up canyons with the NSX every other day
@rogermartinez78
@rogermartinez78 9 ай бұрын
I agree with all you guys responses and I am feeling the same about my last two gas cars, a MK5 GTI that is modded, a 2K Maxima, and the fact that I have gotten older and now my daily driver is a electric Mini Cooper, so now I drive the other two cars even less.
@champloogamingtv7447
@champloogamingtv7447 9 ай бұрын
@@Zygrene Yeah I bet, we’re all aiming for an early retirement so we might be able to enjoy these cars stress free
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 9 ай бұрын
I was in the same boat. I currently have a highly tuned AP1, FD RX-7, as well as a few other girls like a Z4M Coupe, RX-8. I've always wanted an NSX but the NA1s especially are a little underwhelming for the money. So it's a hard car to justify, but damn are they cool cars with so much history behind them. I remember when you bought yours before the spike. I recently pulled the trigger on a MK5 Supra 45th AE with manual transmission in white. It gets delivered next week after almost a year of waiting. I won't know if it was the right decision until I can set the suspension up and really spend some time with it, but the GT4 was another car I considered before ultimately pulling the trigger on the Supra. The biggest factor for me was that I wanted a big torque car. I'm not a fan of the LS (Had a C5Z). MK5 Viper was a consideration also before the price spike. Supra seems the best blend of comfort, speed, style and most importantly for me, hoonability. It will be the heaviest car I own though so we'll see if it delivers being over 3300 lbs out of the box. I look forward to see what you ultimately end up doing.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 9 ай бұрын
long winded essay length reply incoming..... I relate to a lot of this. Everyone is different but personally I think you're looking at it all wrong by trying to apply a logical, analytical approach to dream car ownership such as "extracting value". At this point, an NSX is not a logical ownership proposition, unless you're in it purely for financial investment purposes which you're clearly not. Owning an NSX is an emotional choice. So it's value should be thought of in those terms, otherwise you run the risk of doing something you later regret. Your current use case for the NSX sounds great to me, regardless of it's relative lack of use. It's the special car that comes out for special occasions, or when you are in the mood to appreciate it's specialness. When you've already got something as special and precious as an NSX in the garage, there is just not much you can go to that will top that experience. A GT4 would be an amazing car, but I've heard of too many people moving on from them and saying that they are only truly amazing at 9.5 tenths and a lot of the time suffer from the classic modern Porsche "problem" of being too refined and capable and therefore (whisper it) boring....at other times. Each to their own though, of course. My journey for context: Early on I went from S/C'd AW11 MR2 to MGF (Lol) to early Boxster. Then I got a JDM DC2R that I initially bought as a track day car to sit alongside my (at the time) late model Boxster. I later scratched the 4WD Japanese rally rep itch with an Evo 9 that I tuned to a moderate 400/400 and had all three cars at the same time. Financial rationalisation led me to selling the Boxster, then the Evo, because the DC2R was the most fun of all. The one I would take for a drive when I was driving just for the sheer enjoyment of driving. That car was going to be my forever car until after owning it for 11 years the opportunity to get my dream car, a Lotus, presented itself and heartbroken, I had to sell the Integra. I got my ideal spec Elise which was my new forever car. Then later I had the incredibly fortunate opportunity to buy a V6 Exige final edition new, but it still took me a year of near financial ruin before i was able to come to terms with selling the Elise. So now the Exige is my forever car and I don't think there is anything that could replace it because of the car it is and how it drives, but also because of what it means to me. My only ever car bought new. The ultimate (in my eyes) from my favourite marque that I never tire of fanboying over! I'm confident I'll never replace it, because there are only cars that I'd like to have alongside it now, not instead of it. But I don't have the means to start buying Manthey K400 996 GT3's, or NSX-R's or Ferrari 348 GT Competizione's anyway! So for me it's simple. I've "completed" cars and can accept that. In fact I can still dream of cars like the above mentioned like I did as a little kid reading car magazines, but the difference is now I have something just as special sitting in the garage ready for those moments when i want to enjoy it. And with a near mint fit and strong NSX, so you do. So as time goes on and you become more familiar with what you have and wonder about what different driving experiences other things might offer, it's important to not lose sight of what you already have parked in the garage imo, because Exige 420's and NSX's are no longer made, and never will be again, so if you love them, they are in one sense priceless for people like us. As an alternative suggestion, is there an option of getting a cheap, humble, non petrolhead DD, and something more extreme for regular track work, like a US alternative to a Caterham? While keeping the NSX as the very worthy jewel in the crown. Finally, just a big word of caution, because years ago, there was always the likelihood of something better or more wonderful coming along in the future. Those days are now long gone and the new NSX proves that there will never really be a new NSX ever again, because a auto trans, 4WD turbo electric hybrid with brake by wire brakes doesn't even enter the equation of a dream car for me. I'm a middle-aged old fart but I believe that there is an important and useful life lesson in learning to appreciate what you already have, and not losing sight of how awesome that is as familiarity does it's best to dull the excitement of owning an NSX, an Exige, or...whatever special or cool car (86, MX5, etc) anyone reading this is fortunate enough to have parked up in their garage. Maybe take the NSX to another trackday or for an early morning 5am drive on a perfect day into the canyon's before making any decisions. GL with the decision, I know it's not easy :)
@paolovitale9948
@paolovitale9948 9 ай бұрын
As a proud owner of a 96 nsx that I have owned for 22 years I have contemplated selling it a few times because of offers/value of the car and all I had to do is drive it and completely changed my mind and reminded me of the history and significance of how the nsx changed the supercar world with its timeless design, reliability and performance that put all other cars in the same category on notice with Honda engineering and revolutionary design, technology and the pedigree from the success of F-1 and its legendary test sessions with 3 time world champion ayrton senna. I have been blessed to have owned many cars Some have come and gone but the nsx will always remain a stablemate in my small collection. It’s not my fastest car but it is one of best driving and rewarding cars to drive next to my 89 E30 M3.
@gazman9468
@gazman9468 9 ай бұрын
I see your point about hard tracking it and breaking things. I just think a 10yr+ old Porsche is equally likely to have things go wrong with it and surely cost just as much to maintain. I guess the real argument is that maybe you wouldn't want to risk the NSX getting hit/crashed or damaged beyond repair.
@JacobMueller
@JacobMueller 9 ай бұрын
The main difference is parts availability. I just sold my NSX because of some of the horror stories from the boards. 3-4 months waiting for a drivers window, zero rear hatch glass available aside from totaled cars, over a year waiting on electrical components and it's only going to get worse. There are work arounds for some things but it's a big issue. Honda isn't making any replacement runs for parts like other JDM mfgs are.
@shakespeareracing7822
@shakespeareracing7822 9 ай бұрын
@@JacobMueller exactly this, I can't even find parts for my EM1 Si. I can't imagine how hard it is to find things for an NSX.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 9 ай бұрын
Porsche still making replacement parts for every 911 they ever sold pretty much. If you own a 944 you can get f*cked though lol.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 9 ай бұрын
Also, keep in mind, 911’s have been sold in the thousands year after year, now around 10k a year in North America alone (maybe fact check me before quoting lol), whereas the NSX for many years the production numbers didn’t even have a comma. Some specific configurations (non-Zanardi 97-01 manual coupes, 21’ish for all years combined?) are super rare.
@frederickcook87
@frederickcook87 9 ай бұрын
Keep the car (you will regret selling it) and drive it more (cars were meant to driven/enjoyed) I have 4 vehicles each to fit my different needs/moods 👌🏾
@NikiLauda-b2b
@NikiLauda-b2b 9 ай бұрын
You have finally seen the light. You will never make your NSX perfect. It's a 30 years old car. It does have a special feel to it. However, you have driven too many modern cars that perform so much better and feel almost as special that you eventually stop coming back to your NSX. There's no point in holding onto things that you don't use anymore. You just move on and get to experience new things.
@HigeYatsu
@HigeYatsu 9 ай бұрын
I think it really just comes down to cars having to be treated as cars, and the same is true for these older JDM legends. I actually think your NSX is in the pocket; it's high enough mileage and has been modified enough that it's not a museum piece, but it's a very nice driver. Hearing you talk, you're definitely aware--while the value of the car is high, when you think relatively about what you can get new for similar money, it's not insanely high. A Porsche will cost just as much to repair, if not more, should something go wrong, but for some reason golden era JDM cars are often treated like cars worth 10x what the market tells us they're worth. There's really no reason why anyone should be less nervous about potential repair bills on a newer Porsche, but that's honestly how it feels. I'm the the market for an FD at the moment, which are like $40-50k cars in good-to-great condition. In today's car market, $40-50k is relatively cheap, but it feels like a $40-50k JDM legend is actually a $200k car when you see how they're treated. I would say keep the NSX, it's an insanely special car...but force yourself to drive it and remember that at the end of the day, as a car, it deserves to be driven, and as an owner, it's your unique privilege to be able to enjoy driving it. A $70k car will always cost a bunch to repair should it be involved in an accident, and outside of warranty-covered issues, they'll always have $70k car problems to fix--that's true across all generations and makes of vehicles. If you're comfy owning and driving a $70k car, there's no real reason why it couldn't or shouldn't be this one, in my opinion, unless you like something else more.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Great insights!
@yunggoku6248
@yunggoku6248 9 ай бұрын
i understand the fear of being hit or having things damaged with this car, and not being able to drive it hard like your new integra. I picked up my dream jdm car last year and it would crush me if anything happened to it as well. But i keep in mind that life is short, and these kinds of cars are becoming rarer by the day so the fact that we have them now is something special in itself. Part of the experience is the fact that they don't make cars like this anymore and i believe they will only keep climbing in value with time. However, if you really aren't finding the same joy in it you once had then maybe it's time for a change; either in mindset about the use of the car, or the car itself. It might help to sit on it for a year due to the fact you just got the integra recently, and that honeymoon phase of that car may be affecting your mindset toward the nsx.
@flat6croc
@flat6croc 9 ай бұрын
I'd suggest trying going back to small wheels. Big wheels and tires kill cars like this for fun road driving. They reduce feel and feedback fairly drastically and increase the limits and make the car less interactive. You might find that the NSX becomes sufficiently compelling that you really want to drive it despite the downsides. Or not. In which case, you have you answer.
@verdict1163
@verdict1163 9 ай бұрын
I have a similarly modified FD RX-7 and ask myself the same thing. These cars are icons but it doesn't make sense if they're not being used. For me it's the opposite problem, I don't track, but I feel like that is where the car shines. For my driving habits something with much lower limits that you can reach on the street would probably be better suited. Honestly part of the reason I have kept mine is I can't bear to see another FD turned into some weird overmodified show car, which many of them seem to be. That and the market is severely down right now. I spent so long looking for it and I would never be able to find another like it - it's hard to pull the trigger to replace.
@hhaste
@hhaste 9 ай бұрын
How do you like your RX7? I would love one, one day but I've heard many people say they are very high maintenance, is that true? If so, have you had any issues with yours?
@verdict1163
@verdict1163 9 ай бұрын
@@hhaste Mine has a few basic mods (exhaust, downpipe, etc.) and it is one of the most fun cars I have experienced. The engine (especially with the stock sequential turbos) is wonderfully characterful and the car handles very well, though if I had to nitpick I prefer a lighter, more darty feel. It's very planted. I have never really had much of an issue with reliability. Though my car is also a really nice example and I do all the proper things, like always get it up to temp before revving out. Most FDs out there have poorly tuned modifications and neglected maintenance, or owners who don't follow basic automotive good care practices, and these are the ones that you hear about with problems. The bigger issue is that when something does break, it is not easy to find a rotary mechanic. Unless you live in a big city you're SOL, and even then good specialists are few and far between, and only getting rarer.
@tylerrynberg
@tylerrynberg 9 ай бұрын
@@verdict1163 what shape is your suspension in? An FD certainly shouldn't feel heavy or slow to turn in... What are your alignment settings?
@verdict1163
@verdict1163 9 ай бұрын
@@tylerrynberg Hey there, I've seen your name on the forums and enjoyed reading your posts back in the day! Some of them helped me with boost control questions. For the heavy feeling I'm more talking about the relatively slow steering ratio and the minimal P/S assist giving a heavier feeling, compared to something like a Miata for example. Re: alignment, I do have 1/16" toe-in in the front that I have been meaning to change to toe-out, that would probably make a bit of a difference. Suspension is all in good shape other than the conservative alignment, stock garage kept R1 with low mileage.
@tylerrynberg
@tylerrynberg 9 ай бұрын
@@verdict1163 sounds awesome, and ok, the FD might feel a little heavy compared to a Miata. 🙂 I used to run zero toe with maybe 1.5 deg camber, loved the handling so much. The steering feels natural to me, unlike overly fast modern racks. I'm glad my old posts helped you, although I was pretty young back then and a bit hot headed. 🙂 I would keep enjoying your FD and keep it fairly stock. A driving experience you can no longer find with modern cars.
@_initial_dow
@_initial_dow 9 ай бұрын
Speaking from experience and also as an overthinker. DON’T. You will likely regret it. I do. Stop overthinking it and don’t make a multifaceted decision like this based on solely on logic/“value”. Love is more than just that.
@jasondoulkeridis6202
@jasondoulkeridis6202 9 ай бұрын
I think we are in similar situations, to a degree. I have owned an R33 GTR for 6 years and I feel like the circumstances about usage are similar. I won’t track it, it wouldn’t be rewarding even if I did, and I’m selective about how I do use it because well… People suck. Originally I thought it would be my one and only build and seat time car, but over time I realised it wasn’t realistic (I hate to admit it but I guess you can say I matured). In the same year I acquired the GTR I also had a 2014 Suzuki Swift Sport which was my backup daily (work utility daily). I had to sell the car the following year for financial reasons and quickly regretted it, realising it was infinitely more enjoyable, analogous and robust. The swift was more of a race car than the 30 year old GTR would ever be, just because it would do it all day and quite honestly also do it cheaply - and that’s a big thing when you’re actually poor and do everything on credit. After much painful moaning and loss of sleep my wife tells me to replace the swift with a brand new one so we can get back to trouble free track days and having fun. That same year Toyota announces the GR Yaris (sorry don’t mean to tease) and it was only $8k aud more expensive than the current model swift sport (Toyota ran a crazy sell at loss promo for the first 1000 units in Australia). I’ve now had the GRY 3 years this month and have tracked it monthly since purchase except for 2 6 month stints of Covid closures and overloaded work commitments. The car is faultless and continues to improve as I fiddle with it over time, although, the GTR is still here and still costs money to not be used all so often. So why keep it? Well, the truth is it was my childhood dream car. I always thought I was in a different league to the other kids because they would rush home to play Mario, and I was the only one with Gran Turismo. They would talk about Lamborghinis and I would be doing the Sunday cup over and over to buy the R33 GTR! So there’s a lot of childhood nostalgia in it for me, and after experiencing most of the good JDMs I’ve rested on the R33 being the pick of the bunch, so selling it is not something I want to do. TLDR if the NSX was always a dream of yours I think you should keep it, regardless of practicality. It only appreciates. However, if it was simply a dream at the time then I’d say you’ve owned it long enough and you should get yourself something that you can actually say is a dream car. Every man needs 3 cars; a utility daily, a fun reliable sports car, and a dream car in the garage. Hustle hard until you’re got all 3, and a nice plot of land with a garage to keep them! Good luck. Love your content.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 9 ай бұрын
Great post, better than my ramble. Also, "$8k aud more expensive than the current model swift sport" Wow!!! Deal of the century?! Toyota AU must surely have been kicking themselves since?! Also great work on the R33. Enjoy it and love it, and thanks for sharing. Enjoyed reading that.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insights! NSX was always my dream car, and will likely continue to be.
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og 9 ай бұрын
This is my dream car. I had the opportunity to buy it the last few years but I went with a GTR instead for the same reasons you mentioned. This is a old car and parts are harder to find. I'll be hard to fix it if something breaks.
@dylansorenson2784
@dylansorenson2784 9 ай бұрын
When you said 80k budget, good balance of track and liveability, date nights, special, etc I immediately thought Lotus Evora GT. I think that car is very special and will continue to be since the new Emira has gone into the tech area a little more for my taste. The evora still has the analogue dash and hvac. Styling is a little more tradition Lotus imo as well. They've come down a LOT in price because of the Emira. There are some really special green and blue colors as well.
@smitty_schmitz
@smitty_schmitz 9 ай бұрын
Boom! I came here for this comment. I want a Porsche, but my gut is telling me Evora
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
I want to love the Evora GT but there are some quirks that hinder enjoyment, mainly the inconsistent throttle response and hit-or-miss shifter feel. Also I haven't seen any at/under $80k yet.
@smitty_schmitz
@smitty_schmitz 9 ай бұрын
@@ZygreneI’ve seen 1-2 pop up on CarGurus below $77-78k with sub 15k miles in the last 3 months, so you’re not wrong. But still waiting to at least rent/turo one to get some longer miles on one to see if the quirks out weigh Porsche perfection lol
@johnconnor7501
@johnconnor7501 8 ай бұрын
More lotus content creators would be cool
@FizzyMotors
@FizzyMotors 9 ай бұрын
One thing that I can relate to is if you have a mint classic car, every time you drive it you feel like you are making it a little bit worse. And you pay attention to every little bit of damage you do to the exterior or interior by simply using it more. Eventually the feeling overwhelms you and you feel like selling the car. I go through cars really fast as well because of this
@tbonafied1742
@tbonafied1742 9 ай бұрын
As the newer owner of a 981 GT4, I don’t think you can go wrong, it has a good amount of power for the street, a great sound, and the drive is special imo.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 9 ай бұрын
The EPS is a downer though.. if you've driven a 987/997 car, you'll be very disappointed by 1st gen Porsche EPS, lol.. you can retune it to get some improvement, but there was a hardware change, on top of a software change, in the 982 cars to increase steering feel.. still not as good as a 986/997 or older P-car, but about as good as EPS is gonna get currently with Porsche..
@tbonafied1742
@tbonafied1742 9 ай бұрын
@@dre32pitt I also own a 997.1 C2S Cabriolet, and you are not wrong. The steering on the earlier car is better, but it doesn’t have the same performance car feel overall in this day and age. I think a 997 GT3 is probably the best of most worlds, but those don’t really exist in the sub 100k category, at least not for a clean one.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 9 ай бұрын
@@tbonafied1742 Depends on what you're after and what you're used to. the 295/251 in the Cayman S I had was plenty.. just wish the gearing was shorter lol (as does everyone).. I would settle for a 997.2 C2 w/Bose and Sport Chrono, lol.. Do some OEM+ mods and just enjoy her on my local back and coastal roads.. much like I do my miata currently, lol (yes, I drive top down even in sub 50 temps.. dgaf) Edit: How's the soft-top 911? I have a rule about soft-tops.. I don't buy one unless it was designed from the ground up to be a soft-top (i.e. miata, boxster, z4)... HOWEVER, there are WAY more soft-top 997 911's than coupes running around and lower prices too.. What say you sir? If I loved driving my 987.1 CS on backroads, will I be disappointed by the 911 vert's increased weight and less structural rigidity??
@tbonafied1742
@tbonafied1742 9 ай бұрын
@@dre32pitt on backroads I think you would love the 997 Cab. It feels like a classic sports car in 1-8/10’s driving. I only notice cowl creaks when leaving my driveway at an angle, but on the open road it’s phenomenal, and with the top down you can hear the flat six all the better (the induction noise north of 5k is still awesome). I love the car and have no plans to part with it, even with the GT4, they just offer such different driving experiences, and both great.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 9 ай бұрын
@@tbonafied1742 Sounds like my kind of car.. I'm 1-8/10s for sure, lol.. That's a good mix you have. My gut tells me I'll probably end up preferring the mid-engine feel vs. the rear-engine feel (I haven't actually driven a 911 yet, lol) and I'll end up in a 987.2 BS (w/Bose and Sport Chrono), lol..
@spencersgarage
@spencersgarage 9 ай бұрын
Be confident in driving it man! I daily drive my 1991 civic with 222K 100 miles a day with confidence!
@dmanatan
@dmanatan 9 ай бұрын
I daily’d my NSX for the first 5 years and 50k miles. Since 2018 I’ve driven it only 19k miles. I’ll probably never sell mine but I’m with you in that I’m becoming more mindful of wear and tear parts that may become discontinued.
@jn4988
@jn4988 9 ай бұрын
Hey been watching since you were on the smoking tire. So many moons ago. Heres what I suggest!!!! Used 718 gts 4.0 manual, can be found for well under 88,000 used. Your review of the 4.0 gts You seemed to love the 718 gts 4.0 Sell acura nsx, get 4.0 gts. Modify 4.0 gts with suspension and full bolt on, wider rims and tires, ugrade brake pads and fluid. Probably be at fun car to poke around in😂. Might suprise few gt3 and gt4 owners that are stock
@nomadic_mind
@nomadic_mind 9 ай бұрын
Yes. My own experience: I acquired a bone stock s2000 with only 9000 miles 5 years ago thinking it would be my forever car. 5 years later, the car has 13k miles and a few track days but I finally sold it. With the low mileage I just didn’t want to modify it, and imho a stock s2000 doesn’t live up to its hype, mines an ap2, the steering ratio feels slow, the narrow front tire doesn’t offer a great turn in, the brake is not confident on track without extensive mods; most importantly as I aged in the past 5 years a 16 year old car just becomes too tiring for me to drive on the road, so I took it out less frequently and in the end it just sits in the garage collecting dust. Life’s short, go try different things. ❤
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like I just need to mod my car more lol
@HoleLeeAutomotive-rb2qs
@HoleLeeAutomotive-rb2qs 9 ай бұрын
This was the main reason i didn't want to step up to the NSX when i had opportunities to buy one at reasonable price. I listed my s2000 because i thought i was ready to grow up to the Cayman, but i pulled the listing before any offers. The Cayman, which is probably the most track suited car i own (can't mod the s2k for obvious reasons), does not put a smile on my face like the s2000 or even it's older ancestor, a restomod 914-6. If i can't see myself wrenching it myself, i don't think I would keep it.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 9 ай бұрын
C6 Z06, 2013/14 GT500, s550 GT500, Gen 2 Vipers, GT-R, GT350R, c7 Grand Sport.. honestly, so many cars. But it seems you prefer JDM and some Porsches only.
@hadrienlf23
@hadrienlf23 9 ай бұрын
I might be able to enlight you. I own a NSX in full R spec that i build over the years. ( LWFW, non compliance, diff, ohlins, 4,23fd, JDM Gears, 1230kg all in... ) It was my dream car for a long time and I build it into a TypeR replica as i hate rhd and wanted a LHD. Then got more money and got lucky to snatch a 1st hand 997.2 3.8RS for a bargain 3 years ago. The NSX was my Granturismo dream car and the RS my youth magazine dream car ( i am 31 ). In the end what happened, when i got the RS, i started throwing more mods at the NSX. Drove it much less, but every time i got in it, there was something special. RS is amazing probably one of the best car ever, but gearbox and engine aren't as good a 91-94 NSX cable operated. But the RS has other things much better of course. I used to race F3 and 997 Carrera Cup, and i wanted to sell one of the two to get a dedicated track car because there was no way i would mod more those two and transforming them into lesser road cars. In the end the NSX is not a good track car, and the RS is okay but it is slow or heavy and you burn consumables. I ended up not selling them cause the two driving experience on the road are some of the best i ever had ( and i owned and drove most of the stuff you presented on your chanel which i particularly enjoy ). I got back to karting in Shifter KZ karts. It is the best track experience you can have for mere humain that don't have budget for 200k+ cars. And if you don't want that, keep you NSX and save up for a caterham with slicks and a durance 2.0. All you need.
@gregjones2472
@gregjones2472 7 ай бұрын
Based on everything you said, as much as I hate to say it, it sounds like it is time to sell it
@mrmonday42
@mrmonday42 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like you want a GT4, so save up if you have to.
@ossBASHA
@ossBASHA 9 ай бұрын
Just saw a video of Misha flogging a GR86 on the Nurburgring and can't help but think that it's the prime track car with the right mods.
@Jeremyyy412
@Jeremyyy412 9 ай бұрын
996 Turbo is well within the budget with leftover. I had one that I regret selling with 130K miles. It's AWD but easily converted RWD and back. It's the cheapest race-derived Mezger engine that's good for track after coolant pinning is done. It's starts off as more grand touring, but modifiable for track use.
@curtishuzarewich7033
@curtishuzarewich7033 9 ай бұрын
If I were you I'd keep it, its got higher mileage so its not as collectable as a low mileage garage queen. That being said you can actually drive it and it won't depreciate much, and it is a dependable, fast, engaging sportscar. Other new sportscars are much more expensive to maintain. As you get older as you say you will drive it less, but at some point you will regret selling it, especially if they aren't going to manufacture ICE manual sports cars in about a decade. If you end up selling it for $75k all the replacements you mentioned are more expensive to buy and maintain.
@Milano322
@Milano322 9 ай бұрын
I can echo some of the feelings you’ve got about this car. My C5 Corvette Z06 still is an amazing performance bargain, but I can’t get out of the back of my head the worry about pushing a 20+ year old car. I don’t know what I’d rather have for the money and I know I’d feel some regret selling it, but it sits too much and I think I would get more enjoyment out of something newer, even if a less objectively fun car. EDIT: along these lines, with your budget, what about a C7 Corvette Grand Sport?
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
I haven't driven a C7 GS yet, but if it's anything like the C7 ZR-1, it's not really my cup of tea. Too big and blunt on track.
@TechNoir841
@TechNoir841 9 ай бұрын
​@@Zygrene The C7 GS is nothing like the ZR1, as the steering is lighter and nimbler. The power delivery is more linear and controllable and is easier to reach near the limit without reaching an unforgiving tipping point like the ZR1. It has all the brakes and tires like it's older siblings but is much more of a comfortable track car being able to ring it out then the Z06 or ZR1, IMO. Worth a try.
@chadevangelous589
@chadevangelous589 9 ай бұрын
Have always been a fan of the gt350. Also a pretty special car that should hold its value!
@DavidFigs
@DavidFigs 9 ай бұрын
has to be a gt350r, dont get a non R
@danielmembrillo6472
@danielmembrillo6472 9 ай бұрын
Tracked my 350, engine blew. And that’s a typical story. Definitely stay away from the platform unless you budget for a new motor.
@saviorstyles9148
@saviorstyles9148 9 ай бұрын
@@danielmembrillo6472the voodoo engine is that unreliable? 🥹
@DavidFigs
@DavidFigs 9 ай бұрын
@@danielmembrillo6472 shouldnt buy one without extended warranty and it's a FPC race motor, need to monitor oil.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 9 ай бұрын
wont hold it's value like a GT4, but entry price is about half though too.. Has Ford fixed the Voodoo from wanting to shake itself to pieces though??
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 9 ай бұрын
I think if you drive it more often then you'll love it. I had same feeling with my s2000 when it was originally a garage queen purchased in 2007. When I started drive the s2k daily in 2014 till now, I love it alot going from 30k to 127k miles on the meter. Now I won't be able to daily the s2k bc I have the new 2024 Honda pilot trail sport on the way for my newborn so priorities change in life. I have a new interest in off roading adventures with family and kids. Same goes for you so do what you feel is right. For me I'm still keeping the s2000 no matter what and I would recommend keeping the nsx to sell out later on or you can always modify it to keep up with the newer cars in the track. You'll never see a naturally aspirated V6 mid engine rear wheel drive on a Honda ever again. I think you will regret giving it up Honda's supercar of it's time. everything is going EV so the current integra you already own will also become outdated in the next 17 years as well so no difference with your nsx.
@jn4988
@jn4988 9 ай бұрын
After owning my gts 4.0 for last year. And driving some of the gt porsche products. You cant go wrong with a gts 4.0. Better than many of the older gt products. Out of the box the gts 4.0 is ass is many ways as far as handling at least compared to gt porsche products. But goooood suspension set up, and bit of negative camber transforms fully how these gts 4.0 handle. A good track alingment even on my not as great as could be aftermarket coil over suspension. The alignment makes such a huge difference here. Enough rambling from me. I'm excited to hear your picking up a new toy. So many options!!!!
@TheGkump
@TheGkump 9 ай бұрын
I would say keep it. I have a 91’ NSX and the NSX Types S. Best of both worlds.
@rickvang7313
@rickvang7313 9 ай бұрын
This subject and your dilemma about your NSX. Is a personal decision. You have to figure out what value or emotions you get out of it? For my me? I'm 50yrs old and owned lots of different cars/ sportscars. NSX, C6Z , Vipers and 911s are the obtainable forever dream sportscars. There's no money that can buy emotional connections. I've sold past things for a profit investment and had regrets to this day but had the experience of ownership and also had moved on. As humans we have to constantly evolve and reinvent ourselves....1.0..2.0..etc. Hoping you 🙏 for the best❤.
@Ulesca12
@Ulesca12 9 ай бұрын
Your logic is sound. I have been using 90's jdm cars as track machines for years at this point. Mostly fd rx7's. My last 90's jdm for track use was a 93 GTR, properly tuned for handling/ track work. I sold the gtr in july, its just to much gap between modern cars to truly compete in timed events. I was at a point of either sinking a ton of money into the car to bring it up to performance standards, or selling for a modern machine. I ended up with a Shelby gt350. I dont have regrets moving into a modern chassis. I can drive the gt350 to the track, run all weekend, and drive home. Telemetry and lap times on ps4s match my old 05 sti ttb scca car, and blow out the gtr. Its hard to compete with modern machines
@icebrew
@icebrew 9 ай бұрын
i think theres a bit of a conflict of interest here, you said you wanted it to be a "comfortable grand tourer" but you've also only driven 13k miles, it might be the way you've approached the car so far. Just something to think about.
@waynemillis4418
@waynemillis4418 9 ай бұрын
Same thoughts about my 91 NSX of 15 years especially going to Suzuka and seeing Civic Type R's running much faster laps. The Civic is a modern practical car with 4 seats and rear hatch while the NSX is none of these. However the drive feeling and the smile on my face when I see it makes me talk to it and say hello and the Civic is none of that. My wife says it's part of the family so I'm keeping it.
@waveslicer
@waveslicer 9 ай бұрын
Some random suggestions for you besides the Cayman GT4 and since the 996 GT3 is out of consideration: AMG GT S (can't believe you can get these for like $70k now, lot of car for the money), E36 M3 w/ S54 swap, E92 M3 w/ Team Schirmer Kinematics, M2 CS, W204 C63 AMG Black Series, Exige, C6 Z06, 4th Gen Viper ACR, Mustang GT350R, Camaro ZL1 1LE, 987 Cayman R, CT4-V Blackwing... OR WAIT FOR THE SUPRA GRMN (w/ BMW S58)
@johnmitchell2269
@johnmitchell2269 9 ай бұрын
Only if you are going to replace it with an NA2 NSX from 96 to 05. Otherwise, absolutely not! AP1 S2K with an F22 swap and an NA1 NSX, you are living the Honda dream! But.... Given the prices of lower mileage good condition NA2's (which is scary now) I think the most sensible thing to do would be to just modify your current NSX. Put a premium quality vinyl wrap on (silver is a bit meh) a colour that will work with the bronze wheels (so either white or black maybe). And then if your budget allows, maybe buy a used supercharger or Toda ITB's?? Not only would that be awesome (for you) it would be good for us viewers as well 👍
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
As much as I want to mod the NSX, it's expensive and not easy to find parts. I'd love JDM short gears but they are rare and therefore cost a fortune. By the time I'm "done" modding, I'll easily be $100k+ into the car. Hard to justify.
@johnmitchell2269
@johnmitchell2269 9 ай бұрын
@@Zygrene TBF you could buy an Evora 400 with 70k. More torque and power plus lighter than a 981 GT4.
@TheBucketOfTruth
@TheBucketOfTruth 9 ай бұрын
@@Zygrene That's where I'm at with my 996 Turbo. I wrote a longer comment elsewhere here, but it's one of those things where I could dump 15k into it and make it excellent, but what if I still don't want it? And it's all money I won't get back on a sale because most people want a stock car.
@jn4988
@jn4988 9 ай бұрын
Mmh also a 2021 mach 1 with track package. Good track alingment and sticky tires, goes a long way. Few bolt ons get close to 500whp, at or over 500 whp with ethanol. That 6 speed is the business as well
@evorinc
@evorinc 9 ай бұрын
Try the Alfa Romeo 4C, it’s probably the most visceral driving experience for $50-60k. Owned my 4C for 3 years now and it’s most reliable sports car I’ve owned thus far, make sure you use a trickle charger when you aren’t using it daily. Carbon fiber tub, weights about 2,400 lbs, all the crazy sounds that it makes when you drive it. Try one and you’ll know what I’m talking about.
@davendrabrijlall5184
@davendrabrijlall5184 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I wonder if the NSX is your real concern, or is it just masking your true thoughts on your Integra. You replaced your fun and tossable track car with a mature, buttoned-down luxury sedan. And while the Integra is no doubt a fun vehicle for canyon blasts at 8/10th, you can't fight physics (and replace oversteer) on the track, making you quickly realized the trade-off between FWD and RWD. Ask yourself, did you ever think about getting rid of the NSX when you had your BRZ?
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Thought provoking question for sure. To answer truthfully, I did but possibly more seriously now.
@unearthednsx116.
@unearthednsx116. 9 ай бұрын
This 100%
@harris7963
@harris7963 9 ай бұрын
Pure driving experience to take on track and commute; usability, performance; rwd sports car. Sounds like you’re describing your BRZ or a Porsche.
@bemoremad
@bemoremad 9 ай бұрын
I think if you boil it down to value, it isn't a car you should keep given your track tendencies and channel needs. I also totally understand that worry about potentially driving an older car that could string along an expensive repair at any moment and brings you stress potentially damaging a pristine car. That said, cars like these aren't really logical purchases outside of that realm. I understand the pressure (especially financially) to only keep things that 'make sense', but if it brings you joy, it is what it is. I would do what makes you happier, and perhaps getting rid of things that give you anxiety is that.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Excellent advice!
@Unicornpirate
@Unicornpirate 9 ай бұрын
Lotus Emira is pretty much a modern day NSX. RWD, mid engine, V6 supercharged, mechanical LSD, 6MT, hydraulic steering, double wishbone front and rear suspension, modern tech all for $100k. It's pretty much the best old feeling new car you can buy. I'd have it over a 981 GT4, 718 GTS, M2, Supra, Nissan Z, 992 911, C8 Corvette, Camaro SS 1LE.
@JKnationTV
@JKnationTV 9 ай бұрын
I can confidently say go with a 981 GT4, even with an LP560 Gallardo in my garage, I find myself driving the GT4 more, having more fun in it, it’s a really special driving experience
@jasonvandehey5660
@jasonvandehey5660 6 ай бұрын
I have the exact same thoughts about my 1987 Callaway twin turbo Corvette (though I would much rather have an NSX and the vette has lower value than your NSX). But it is a rare car with low miles that I drive less than 200 miles per year. When i do drive it, people approach me and want to talk about it and find it cool, but I don't get a lot more out of it than that. It is not practical to drive it regularly.
@scottcolpitts8521
@scottcolpitts8521 9 ай бұрын
What about an ariel atom? Or a similar dedicated track toy? How many cars can you realistically own? If its three, you got the acura for daily, maybe a special street car that you actually want to drive, and a dedicated track weapon. All street cars are compromises, they will never be true race cars, which is fine. Driving down a winding road at 7 or 8 10ths is a different kind of fun. Its escapism, being in the here and now, its mediation. The only car I would sell your nsx for would be an air cooled 911. A viseral sense tingling experience. Thats my opinion.
@Drewster23
@Drewster23 9 ай бұрын
I was in the same boat 5 months ago. Sell my 91 80k mi NSX or not. I eventually sold my dream car for another dream car, the 34 GTR because the low yen made it more accessible and I knew that would be a short window. I do miss driving “Bruce” - it was euphoric
@gregb_
@gregb_ 9 ай бұрын
I’m in your boat right now. Sell my NSXs and get an r34 GTR or keep them and enjoy seeing r34 GTR in the wild.
@Drewster23
@Drewster23 9 ай бұрын
Yeah for me I knew if I didn’t take this chance now, a chance may not come again esp at this price.
@supers0nic77
@supers0nic77 9 ай бұрын
How do you like the 34? By itself and compared to the nsx?
@darksunrise8777
@darksunrise8777 9 ай бұрын
To me, the mark of a car that you love is you can't keep miles off it. I'm currently putting 8k miles/yr on my 2nd gen BRZ in combined canyon/track and occasional daily driving. I'd like to put less miles on it, but it's so enjoyable to drive in so many settings that it's hard to keep the miles off it even though I have a DD and access to my wife's car. I think you would enjoy something like a manual A91 Supra. Lighter and smaller than a Camaro/Mustang, good power, RWD, trackable, mod-able, refined/fancy enough for dates, and not so expensive or old that you'd worry about things breaking or needing to find parts. It's not collectible in the way an NSX is, but that's why you wouldn't worry about fully using it either. It comes down to whether you like cars to collect them or to drive them. Might also consider an M2/CS.
@MrMirofl
@MrMirofl 9 ай бұрын
Man the NSX is truly special. Just the feeling when I see this car goosebumps. But when you own it for 7 years, depends if you can find a newer car that you can enjoy right now as well as in the future, a future classic basically. You mention it's your dream car, so maybe keep it forever? Then you don't have to worry as much about the value decreasing or something breaking. Either way the car deserves an owner that enjoys this beautiful machine and gets "the most" out of it, like it was intended to when it got build.
@apricott1
@apricott1 9 ай бұрын
As an NSX owner for 3 1/2 years, I still get that smile when I get in mine. When you lose that, maybe it is time to move on and let someone else have that smile. Think about regrets. Anyone that has sold an NSX that I’ve met, wishes they had not (not about price, but about love for a special car).
@bboixtc
@bboixtc 9 ай бұрын
Go with an Evora 400/GT. It's a cheaper Emira with back seats and no nonsense tech and screens. Hydraulic steering, reliable power train, mid engine, etc. It's the spiritual successor to the NSX. I simply picked my GT over a GT4 for sheer cost of consumables on track and daily. The Evora GT is also the highest US spec'd. So theres no Porsche model/trim rabbit hole.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 9 ай бұрын
The I'm reading through comments, this sounds like the best option if the NSX really is to go.
@alan292161
@alan292161 9 ай бұрын
I've pondered this myself quite a bit, and I've come to the conclusion that my NSX holds such a sentimental value for me that it'll probably be the last car that I sell. I do have an Emira on order, but if I had to choose I would keep the NSX. One sub 100k (I think?) car that I wish I had a chance to own is 987 boxster spyder.
@jackzhang6705
@jackzhang6705 9 ай бұрын
Why not the 981 Boxster Spyder if I may ask?
@sassthathoopie
@sassthathoopie 7 ай бұрын
@@jackzhang6705 Hydraulic vs Electric steering most likely
@YumboYack2521
@YumboYack2521 9 ай бұрын
Your reason for selling is the same reasons why I sold my 997.1. It’s a great car, lovely drive and feel. I always found myself with excuses to not drive it though, like what if this is the drive where I score the bores, or what if this is the drive when the belt tensioner gives out. I found through that experience that older cars just aren’t for me. Ultimately went with a newer 911, a 991.2 C2S. It’s more comfortable, and gives me less excuses to not drive it which is the point of car ownership.
@dsher503
@dsher503 9 ай бұрын
Heck of a car but there's nothing worse than having it sit there in the garage. Unless you know for a fact that you'd want this exact spec again in the future, I say let it go. I'm sure in 10 plus years this will be even more expensive but over that time, you'll be able to experience a ton of new things and really decide if you miss the NSX enough to buy one again. Good luck with the decision!
@aconfusedazn
@aconfusedazn 9 ай бұрын
This really resonated with me. As a GT4 owner there’s still this weird desire to want the “pinnacle” - the GT4RS or even a GT3 because I’ve been brainwashed to think the GT4 is an “inferior” vehicle.
@opmike343
@opmike343 9 ай бұрын
The marketing machine is real and effective, unfortunately. I currently have a Ducati Multistrada 950, and I keep having a nagging itch that I SHOULD have gotten the V4 model. Even though I KNOW I'll never use all that power from my past experience with high horsepower motorcycles, even though it's heavier and more expensive to own and maintain. I fight back the demons by trying to get more in tune with the concept of nuance over novelty. Our brains want that constant dopamine drip and I'm tired of it emptying my bank account each time I need to go chasing down something new or "better."
@Powerofthecloud
@Powerofthecloud 9 ай бұрын
Sorry if I missed something in the video preventing this option, but perhaps sell the NSX and get a new Miata and a GRC you passed on before if you want content. You would have fwd, awd, rwd cars. You can mod the Miata to your delight without breaking the bank for track work. If your so worried about the NSX, maybe it is time to move on. Best of luck with your choice, anyway about it your going to be in a pretty good place. Cheers!
@samuelsimonis7508
@samuelsimonis7508 9 ай бұрын
I’m about the same age. Had my Nsx 4 years now. I’ve put 40k miles on it and none of those are daily miles. Also tracked my other cars and built my s2000 track car. The answer is simple; this car owns you, you don’t own it. The “pristine nature” is holding you back from using it, aka: driving it. You’ve not yet scratched the surface of the connection you can create with it. My FD rx7 was the same way for me. Too pretty, too perfect, and a rolling dollar amount. If you were still in love with the nsx it wouldn’t matter what it was worth. I’d recommend taking it out like it’s gonna disappear tmrw. If you don’t mind, then pass it on. It a great car, I remember when you bought it. Enjoy!
@gt1r
@gt1r 9 ай бұрын
Curious why you wouldn’t want a 996 GT3. I personally found the 996.2 GT3 more rewarding to drive than 997/991s.
@bryanlarrea2867
@bryanlarrea2867 9 ай бұрын
This suggestion would definitely get shot down immediately due to some of the reasons you listed, but... eg hatch! There will definitely be lots of value and they make ohlins dfv for those too...
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Lol time to turn into a full on FF boi
@JacobMueller
@JacobMueller 9 ай бұрын
I just sold my NSX because of some of the horror stories from the boards. 3-4 months waiting for a drivers window, zero rear hatch glass available aside from totaled cars, over a year waiting on electrical components, zero OEM bushings available (poly replacements only, and those need work) and it's only going to get worse. There are work arounds for some things but it's a big issue. Honda isn't making any replacement runs for parts like other JDM mfgs are and they don't even have a refresh service to my knowledge whereas Nissan has that for all the Skylines.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, one of my major concerns.
@popart7722
@popart7722 9 ай бұрын
Honda hasn’t officially announced a parts supply program but has continued to make parts, albeit not in an official way like Nissan. That being said Honda does have an official “refresh” program in Japan down to bare metal. I would never sell my NSX over parts availability. Yea, you may have to wait a few weeks/months for parts but all of the consumables you can buy in advance. I’ve driven almost everything out there and you cannot replace 90’s technology in terms of analog feel and ease of maintenance. The NSX is special, and will always be. Modern Porsches are great to drive, but lack a lot of feel that you are driving not the car. I think you will regret this decision. That being said, if you want a true driving experience, buy an Alfa Romeo 105 couple with carburetors. Nothing is more of an experience and car than that.
@Crisheight
@Crisheight 9 ай бұрын
Listen, as much as we love these cars, change is equally good and it sounds like it might be that time.
@kdpwt
@kdpwt 9 ай бұрын
Been watching since 2016 man. I want to first say thank you for years of content and contribution to cars and culture. We are both getting old lol This is a left field answer, imo it depends on who buys it. It’s maybe esoteric and childish but what kind of owner does an nsx want? With the way prices are it will probably be well taken care of, but I think the car should be owned by someone who can drive, who can take care of it, who will mod it well if they do, who can appreciate it, who has the right amount of knowledge. I think you fit the picture of that owner well and are cut from the right cloth. I wouldn’t sell it to anyone who can’t exceed you in all of those aspects, I wouldn’t sell it to someone I can’t contact, and I would sell it for a good price. Maybe I’m biased ofc because I just listed all the traits I think I possess lol. Also the amount of roles the nsx can play is really dimishing imo, it’s a canyon carver and it’s special, while your track/daily car has a conflict of goals. With all due respect, wouldn’t a track/canyon carver/special car make more sense? Imo a heavily modded cayman is the closest thing to that. Plus the fear of being hit is a bit less. I say that with awareness though that i’m heavily applying my own logic.
@FujiboHeavy
@FujiboHeavy 9 ай бұрын
This is my halo car! Its literally a live museum of Honda's best showcase of 90's japanese engineering. If youre not using it and youre not in love with it anymore, its time to let go. Only you can make that call. And Im sure you can get a good amount for how clean she is and try something new/different. Best of luck!
@riceball777
@riceball777 9 ай бұрын
I call bs on you being scard about the reliability of the nsx. You simply are not satisfied with the performance of the nsx and it’s worth too much money for you to throw big mods to it. In my opinion since you already have the new integra type s for a great daily /track car you other car should be a hard core built 500+whp caged track car something that you only drive to and from the track. Something 500whp+ caged and with suspension so stiff and uncomfortable you won’t want to street drive it. Something that the noise and vibration is so bad that its a track only car.
@DC5Brandon
@DC5Brandon 9 ай бұрын
My RSX was getting older and I was nearing the limits on track, so I bought a 987.2 Cayman to replace RSX track duties 6 1/2 years ago. Now I'm trying to "restore" the RSX back to a comfortable daily, while modding the Cayman to be really close to the GT4 for far less $. IMO, I've had similar thoughts about replacing the daily RSX. You've already owned one of my pics, the BRZ, my second would be the new manual Supra. While not a fav of mine, I couldn't help but think of your requirements and budget and thinking of a C8 Corvette with the Z51 package. Mid-Engine to replace your mid-engine, great performance for the $, and it would be great on street and track.
@jackzhang6705
@jackzhang6705 9 ай бұрын
C8 Z51 is vastly not as special as the NSX tho..
@CarsandBikes
@CarsandBikes 9 ай бұрын
I almost sold my 93 nsx because i had a 430rwhp 93 rx7 and 550rwhp 2005 GTO. The nsx was anemic in comparison. Namely having to wind up the engine to get anywhere. After building the engine and adding the kenne belle 2.1 blower it bow makes double the power. Now i love it
@Datsun510zen
@Datsun510zen 9 ай бұрын
When you're engaged and enjoying life, your passion never remains static. Its a bitch, but sometimes we're slapped in the face by the impractical reality of our youth. Don't go peacefully in to that good night. No my friend. Rage against the dying of the light. In the 7+ years I've known you Fenton, your focus has always been on the experience of a given car. Face it bro, you enjoy driving too much to have a collector taking up space in your garage. There's no boubt you'll regret selling your dream car, but this vid says its time to move on to other dreams. Like a 2020 Lotus Evora GT
@jackzhang6705
@jackzhang6705 9 ай бұрын
Lots of solid reading materials in the comment section.. Wow! Personally I think a dream car needs to be more than something just to be looked at in the garage or driven occasionally. If you cannot fully enjoy driving it due to parts availability / things that will likely break, then maybe it's time to move on and find your new dream car!
@SaveTheManuals
@SaveTheManuals 9 ай бұрын
I feel uniquely qualified to add my 2c here given that I've been a long time subscriber of yours and I own multiple old Japanese performance cars including the 1991 300zx Twin Turbo and the built Forester XT. The most important thing is the Smiles Per Gallon. I've rented and driven newer, nicer, faster cars. Yes they're nice. But something about that Forester and the Z, always always always puts a huge smile on my face. No nanny controls. No traction control. Raw driving experience. Character. Personality. Nostalgia. I'm going to try and keep them and drive them until the body rusts to dust. Put more miles on your NSX. like someone else mentioned, put oem wheels back on to improve daily driving. Daily it. Enjoy it. We're not here for a long time but for a fun time. Even a $200K car won't replace the NSX for you bc it's not about the $... It's about the experience. Happy new year 🎉
@justsomerandomguyman
@justsomerandomguyman 9 ай бұрын
The 718 GTS 2.5L with an upgraded turbo and tune could be really special, IMO.
@masetcp
@masetcp 9 ай бұрын
I’ll chime in. Just like you I have had a lot of cars. And I mean a lot I have had recently my first NSX that I bought and sold. And, do I miss that car? Yes, I don’t think I will ever not miss that car. But just like you. There were things that the nsx didn’t do for me also. I do share your feelings about the fact that it is old and that it does not perform as well as other cars. The biggest thing with that car was the fact that it was so special and the looks and the way it felt when it drove, but that kind of stopped at that. Right now, going after cars that I longed for when I was a child. I was thinking, if you want a special car, maybe a r34 gtt, gtr, s15. But again they are old. But I don’t think if you had those cars in your garage, that you wouldn’t regret that. Another car I’d say can replace the nsx that I can think of is a 911 gt3. You can do some modifications to it, and I don’t think it should bore you for a while. Good luck and you can always buy another nsx later!
@WatchingYoutubeVid
@WatchingYoutubeVid 9 ай бұрын
Here I was looking to buy a S2000 but you did bring up good points that I won't be able to drive it to its fullest potential just because of the car's age, required maintenance, and its value. Even if I were to replace every seal and gasket, there is still a worry since it is an old car (where replacement parts may even be harder to get) when compared to a brand new car that you have that confidence to beat it to the dirt fully.
@itspronouncedjello
@itspronouncedjello 9 ай бұрын
For what you want it to have, the perfect blend of usability, performance, emotion, as well as modern enough to not have to worry about it breaking every time you drive it, nothing less than a Porsche will do it. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. And even then, nothing short of the GT models will feel as special as your NSX. Also I think it would be good to point out, I dont think any other manufacturer still makes parts for their older cars like Porsche does, so as far as forever cars go, there’s really only one choice if you want to keep it on the road.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Facts. Porsche GT is the way.
@jackzhang6705
@jackzhang6705 9 ай бұрын
@@Zygrene There is no substitute!
@stevegonzales527
@stevegonzales527 9 ай бұрын
No newer car will ever feel like a 90s sports car. This is why I decided to skip out on the new m3. I’ve owned CTS-V, 2 m4’s, an FK8 civic type R although fun, they just never felt the same type of fun as older cars. If anything the civic type R made me realize how much older cars are although they are slower compared to modern cars but they for sure are more fun to drive and reliable
@frederickschulze8014
@frederickschulze8014 9 ай бұрын
Porsches provide the most options for having that desirable rear biased weight distribution and great balance in a car for below super car prices. I even have a Porsche 986 myself. The problem I've noticed with Porsches is that even though they have great handling, you can almost always get a faster overall track car at any given price until you get to the very high end models. Sure, I can get a 987 Cayman S for 25k, but for that price, I can also get a Corvette C5 Z06 or C6 that doesn't handle as well, but ultimately puts down much better lap times because of the power. Around 50k, I've considered a Porsche 996 turbo, but for that price, I can get a couple year old Mk5 Supra that has equal acceleration and is almost brand new, so way cheaper to maintain. It's only at the very high end with the GT4 and GT3 that they become a really fast track car for the price.... but that's way over my budget now 😅
@Slowster
@Slowster 9 ай бұрын
I’ve always been a fan of your channel. Thanks for your time and effort on creating the content Anyway, it’s a tough call. Personally I am biased and went down similar route. I chose the GT4 and found it a good balance between being relatively modern in safety and comfort features, performance characteristics, parts availability, relative ease of maintenance and all that. I feel like there really isn’t much out there around this price range that strikes a balance in the things that you are looking at. Good luck with your next move!
@rjwagz
@rjwagz 9 ай бұрын
I'd say keep the NSX, and maybe mod it and go through it so you can get what you want out of it while not having to worry about it. It could be a cool project car, and an interesting way to add viewer engagement on your channel.
@northcamarolina7453
@northcamarolina7453 9 ай бұрын
I'm a bit biased, but you can't go wrong with a Camaro SS 1LE. And if you're looking for lighter weight, consider the turbo 4 1LE. It's several hundred pounds lighter, but still has decent power. Good enough for Randy Pobst to purchase and relatively rare. Consumable costs would be very manageable with either version, though not sure why you list that as a criteria when you simultaneously are considering a Porsche.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 9 ай бұрын
Few years back I finally got to the point where I could afford a “dream car” and I looked at my childhood cars, the NSX and FD3S. The price that nice examples where trading at had me cross shopping Porsches. I test drove a 991.2 Carrera T and was sold. I ended up with one with a slick top and carbon buckets and it has a very special feeling when ripping up the canyons, compared to a base or S 911 that can feel kind or basic if not optioned well. I was also looking at GT4 but the turbo motor torque is addicting to me, and the first nice car from a good owner I came across was a cherry condition 911T, so that’s what I ended up with. I still side eye NSX and FD’s and dream about having more garage space for a car I don’t mind sitting while I wait on parts.
@rekt_86
@rekt_86 9 ай бұрын
Gated V8 R8 with a RWD conversion (fully reversible). these are ~32xx with a few mods in RWD form
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
I would love to drive one first to see how it feels.
@rekt_86
@rekt_86 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@Zygrene i’d let you drive my V10, but i’m across the country 😅. you should see if you can find someone local, the weight reduction, double wishbone suspension and RWD conversion makes for a fantastic driving experience.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 9 ай бұрын
Now That sounds like a great suggestion!
@matke8282
@matke8282 9 ай бұрын
This is the first video that i have watched on your channel, came up as a recommendation, if I was in your position I wouldn't think for a second and keep it that car can't be replaced.
@Mr_Kristofer
@Mr_Kristofer 9 ай бұрын
This is similar to my current dilemma. I cut sling from my mkiv Supra while the market was good and currently only have my G80 M3. Great all around car but definitely doesn’t have that special feeling. Now I’m debating on getting another 90s JDM icon again or getting another newer 2010+ car instead due to the overall ease of ownership and reliability versus 20+ year old cars. With everything you’ve said I think moving on to another car can benefit you in multiple ways. Relatively stress free ownership, KZbin opportunities, and just being something new. The NSX IS rare, but if you find yourself wanting to get into another one in a few years, they will be available. Plus the benefits you can possibly gain from switching out now can possibly assist you in getting back into one again in the future.
@studioreferral
@studioreferral 9 ай бұрын
I have had my 92 NSX for 12 years now and I also have an 89' Carrera, they are totally different and equally enjoyable. The NSX is a benchmark car and as others have commented it always gets thumbs ups and pictures and videos taken of it whereas the Carrera doesn't get as much attention. Mine is bone stock which I think long term will have better value than modified ones, that being said I think long term they are all going to as long as they're not heavily tweaked, continue to appreciate. Gordon Murray wouldn't have used it as a starting point for the F1 if it wasn't a special machine. We all have exit points on our cars at some point. I just don''t know when and if my NSX will have one. Last point is that you should factor in that you are probably going to need to do the major service that the prior owner had done in the next year or so. Good luck with your decision either way.
@blueshark3098
@blueshark3098 9 ай бұрын
I just got finished watching your video. If you have the income, assets and garage space to keep this car, there is no way you should get rid of it. It sounds like it's in relatively good shape, since the previous owner did all that restoration work on the engine, so if you want to keep it, sure, you'll have to do some rubber seal and gasket type replacement work, plus other categories, but you've got a car that's in pretty good shape. If you have the resources, I don't think you need to demand that the NSX be your everything car. It is what it is. It has an intense, but limited value. You can't track it, because you can't push it as hard as you would like. So, just keep it around and do your canyon drives every now and again. There are not a lot more naturally aspirated, relatively simple technology, mid-engined super cars coming from anyone, anytime soon, least of all Honda. We are in a turbo-charged and electric world. Enjoy the relics of the past like the NSX, because there aren't going to be more of them. I think the major "flaw" I see in your thinking, is in demanding that the car be an everything car. If you enjoy it for what it's great at, and good at, and you respect its limitations, and you can afford to keep it, why get rid of it? As you keep noting, it is a very special driving experience, even if you no longer want to track it at the high limits you can do with newer cars.
@omgr86
@omgr86 9 ай бұрын
i think you should start looking into a c6 corvette. Amazing sports car for the money.
@hl2408
@hl2408 9 ай бұрын
Save up for a 991Touring. The fact is tracking anything emotional is too expensive because its too nice to crash. in another words, you cannot afford it. Maybe spend 20k on a spec miata and go race. That might satisfy your tracking itch?
@BrianSilvestro14
@BrianSilvestro14 9 ай бұрын
I vote sell it. Life is all about getting as many different experiences as you can. Make room for something you've always wanted to drive. You'll still have the memories of the NSX once it's gone.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
I'll just put my NSX video playlist on repeat every night and cry myself to sleep
@flat6croc
@flat6croc 9 ай бұрын
Or life is about quality long term relationships, not chasing the next thing! There's no right or wrong, no easy answer. Personally I lean towards changing less rather than more when it comes to cars. I see too many car lovers buy a new toy and almost immediately the thought is what's next? Plus, this guy is getting plenty of experiences with other people's cars. You can't keep other people's cars long term, so I think the the balance available here of long term ownership mixed with the variety of experiencing lots of other cars makes a lot of sense, though again I wouldn't dictate that it has to be the best answer.
@sf8025
@sf8025 9 ай бұрын
I had a similar thought process selling my Evo 5, my childhood dream car a few years back. I daily drove and tracked it but sold because of age and worries around reliability, Looking back, I don't think I regret the move overall. I had my ownership experience and my realization was that these cars with a strong emotional connection to can only ever be collector items and pushing hard on a track causes more worry than fun. Owning a car mostly as a collector item gets boring so for me I think it was the right move to have sold. (I now ride dirt bikes)
@justing888
@justing888 9 ай бұрын
What about a C8 Z51 or A90 Supra? I know both are in the opposite direction with them being heavy but both have shown to be great track cars, alot of fun, and they sound great. Maybe the best thing would be to save for the Porsche you want and in the meantime keep the joint owned Porsche at your place 😅
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 9 ай бұрын
Can't get on board with the C8 exterior. Supra is great but still not special enough. Patiently waiting to see how the GRMN turns out.
@stevendonnard
@stevendonnard 9 ай бұрын
I have an Elise 111r and mk1 Mx5 , the only car I would want regardless of price is a Mk1 NSX. I probably wouldn't dare driving it either as the values are shooting up. Maybe an Emira?
@AP1GO9K
@AP1GO9K 9 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about my R33 GTR. Never drive it because I'm terrified of it getting stolen, crashed, and attention. Then when things break have wait because obviously not US car. They really bend you over for the smallest things smh. Have a new Supra also drive it everywhere treat it like a Camry in comparison(42k miles)
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