70 AD Doctrine Pt1

The A.D. 70 Doctrine
The second coming of Christ has been on the minds of men since He ascended into the clouds in the first century. Acts 1 Several false theories were being taught about His second coming. II Thessalonians 2:1-3a. The belief that Jesus came for the last time in the first century is still with us today and must be dealt with.
In particular, the so-called “A.D. 70 Theory” is being advocated by many in the Lord’s church. It is also called “Realized Eschatology” or the “Max King Theory” named after the one who brought it into the churches of Christ. He has written two books that set forth this theory of Christ’s second coming: The Spirit of Prophecy (1971) and The Cross and the Parousia of Christ (1987).
This theory contends that the second coming of Christ, the establishment of the eternal kingdom, the day of judgment, the end of the world, and the resurrection of the dead all occurred in A.D. 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the fall of Judaism.
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[@lightbeforethetunnel]

I have far MORE hope now that I understand Jesus kept his word and returned ~70AD just like he repeatedly told his disciples he would. I've never been this hopeful before in my life, and that's not an exaggeration. Futurism drains the hope away - I remember how it feels and it is a dark feeling compared to Little Season.

[@SpotterVideo]

Hyper-Preterism Unmasked: Is Matthew 10:23 about 70 AD, or is it about Jesus coming as the King to Israel? The answer is found below in Zech. 9:9. Did Jesus "cometh" as the King of Israel riding on a donkey during the week He was crucified? If Matthew 10:23 is about 70 AD, Peter ignored the commandment given by Jesus in Matthew 10:5-7, when Peter went to the house of Cornelius. It did not take the disciples forty years to take the Gospel to Israel. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period of the Gospel going "first" to Israel is found in Matt. 10:5-23, and Acts chapter 2, and Acts 10:36-38, and Galatians 1:14-18. Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. The Old Covenant age died at Calvary when God ripped the temple veil in half from the top to the bottom at the moment His Son died at Calvary. There is no record in the NT of any person coming to salvation outside of the New Covenant between Calvary and 70 AD. Hebrews 7:12 proves there was a change in the law before 70 AD. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant Church of Mount Zion and the blood of Jesus in Hebrews 12:22-24. This passage was written in the present tense before 70 AD. If the Hyper-Preterists (Full-Preterists) were correct the Old Covenant age would come back into existence if a temple were rebuilt, and animal sacrifices are renewed. Any basic book on Astronomy proves we are not now living in the "eternal" New Heavens and New Earth, because the sun only has a limited amount of nuclear fuel. We now understand the nuclear reaction inside the core of the sun, because of the testing of thermonuclear weapons. ==== Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19, right after the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.

[@rebeccaringler1265]

We cannot lose our destiny if we are in Christ. We can’t earn salvation, but we put the armor of God in every day.

[@DavidCHeath777]

The last days are a reference to the old covenant passing away.

[@lesliesavege1206]

You are correct!

[@breakfastbuddy5]

hebrews 8:13 ,,Religion is death .

[@breakfastbuddy5]

1 John 2:18 [ Deceptions of the Last Hour ] Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

[@BibleScribe]

The "last days" were the last days of the "Jewish Age" as is evident from the prophets. it was the end of the AEON/Age. The start of the Kingdom of Christ/Heaven. It's not solely about the covenant.

[@SugoiEnglish1]

@@BibleScribe Both are connected. It was the end of the old and start of the new. At the end, the judgment, resurrection and return of Jesus coming on clouds were to take place. And did.

[@julianwahly3372]

The millennial reign already happened, we are in the short season.

[@globalwarninguk]

If the millennium has already happened, when did the mark of the beast happen?

[@georgebentonjr3876]

We are not.

[@codyalexander2231]

I wish I could hear him explain all the melted structures all across the world... FERVENT Heat, and the 700 years that have been added to our timeline. And all the magnificent structures built worldwide with no power tools... Satan has been loosed on earth for a little Season. I believe we are at the White Throne Judgement. If Satan is not in charge of this mess than who is. I mean he's actually made people believe they're all a ball hurtling thru space 1.5 million miles per hour while orbiting the sun at 66,600mph. Yes, most Christians actually fell for this. We are stationary just like it says in the Bible. Satan controls most churches... The pastors are nothing more than gatekeepers. I'm not sure if it really matters where we are on the timeline as long as we stay ready by staying in prayer and staying in the word. God Bless

[@louism8911]

We are at the New Heavens and New Earth. The end of all ages is marked by the Old Covenant. We are now under the New Covenant.

[@globalwarninguk]

@@louism8911 That is not possible, which bible are you reading ?

[@rogerkreil3314]

“Victorious Eschatology” by Harold Eberle and Martin Trench was a good book to read.

[@jesuslovesyouforalleternit8064]

Wow I believe Jesus returned in 70AD and I have hope, so that’s not true. The ppl who believe in AD70 don’t think all is finished. I will listen to part 2/3 but I’m sure there will be more of the same that we, those of us who believe Jesus returned, don’t have hope. This is not the teaching of who I am in Christ Jesus

[@jonathanm5661]

Agree. It’s as if he doesn’t really know what scripture says happens after the millennial kingdom. There is a little season of Satan before the great white throne judgement and the new heaven and new earth. So if we are in the little season we still have the hope of the final destruction of Satan and the new heaven abs new earth.

[@Dp3.16]

If the second coming happened in 70 AD, why isn't there any record of it? There were lots of believers who would have lived through the second coming of Christ but none, and I mean NONE, of the writers during the late first and early second centuries mention it. In fact, not only do they not mention the second coming of Christ, they clearly believed that the second coming, the resurrection of the saints and the judgment were to happen in the future. Where are the first person witnesses to the second coming of Christ and why didn't they show up to tell Didache, Barnabas, Hermas, Clement, Polycarp, and Ignatius that they had it wrong? Was the second coming of the Earth's Creator done in secret? Is it that no one knew that it had happened at the time and the world was just going to have to wait another 1500+ years until Luis de Alcasar figured it out? Didn't Paul tell everyone what to look for? Wouldn't those witnessing such an important event as the second coming of Christ have realized that it was happening? If they did, where is their testimony? Why is there no evidence whatsoever of a belief in the already past second coming of Christ prior to the publication of "Vestigatio arcani sensus in Apocalypsi" in 1614? A book that was written (i.e. a doctrine that was concocted) for the sole purpose of combating the Reformation, by the way. Maybe all the real Christians were raptured out! That would certainly explain the deafening silence of history concerning God's second coming. Except, then you'd have to believe that either John wasn't a real Christian or that once again all the late first and early second century historical evidence concerning John's death near the year 100 is wrong and that no one showed up to correct the record. (Astoundingly, there are preterists who believe this! - It seems there is no limit to how far they'll go to force both the bible and history itself to fit their eschatology.) Resting in Him,

[@arliegage1380]

There's way to much arguing among Christians over When will the Rapture and Jesus Second Coming take place!! A person must be Saved and Sealed by the Holy Spirit First, or none of this other stuff matters!!🎉

[@breakfastbuddy5]

The Destruction of Jerusalem 20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance LUKE 21 The Destruction of Jerusalem 20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, isaia 61:1-2 malachi 4 and Matthew 11:13-15 New King James Version (NKJV) 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

[@Magic818100]

Yes but if you followed the next chapter and the other ones you thought that come to pass because the scripture says that when the Holy Spirit came upon them when he appeared to them during. 40 days daywind and actin when are you going to establish the Kingdom of Israel in Jerusalem look at the way he responds to them go to Jerusalem feet he's answering them because they were still waiting for a literal Kingdom that they can see with the eyes like many Christians today keto the weight in Jerusalem and wait for the promise what the promise have to do with the kingdom of God being established when the Holy Spirit came upon them like the clouds that cover them that's when they understood that the kingdom of God is within you you're touchy Acts chapter 1-4 you got to read the rest of the chapters and it's answer right there and even in the other Epistles you see it very clearly there is no one coming from the sky and everybody shall see him that is symbolic

[@stereotype5868]

Jesus told his deciples that they would not all die before his coming.

[@breakfastbuddy5]

@@stereotype5868 well Thomas felt his hands and his side , so that was the 2nd comming , its not about going on forever

[@kimwestwood8840]

@@stereotype5868 No, He told them they would see the destruction of the temple. He FURTHER explained His coming by telling them the signs that would take place. Hermeneutics and context is important to gleaning the truth. The parable of the fig tree is Israel becoming a nation in 1947.

[@filiciafertig7899]

Revelation of Yeshua to Yochanan 22:18-19 18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

[@larrymcclain8874]

My take on the narrative, of the Book of Revelation, is this: The Revelation was given to John by Christ to deliver His message to seven churches in Asia, written in signs for events that would soon take place beginning in the first century. The book concerns itself with the defeat of the enemies of Christ and His church, who were empowered by Satan, and ultimately he (Satan) was also defeated. The Jews were the first to persecute the Christians, documented in the Book of Acts, beginning with the stoning of Stephen, and continuing through to one of the last stonings of the Jews, recorded by Josephus (62 AD), the death of James, the brother of Jesus. Israel, with its capital city, Jerusalem, the adulterous harlot, or Babylon, rode the beast (Roman Empire - "We have no king but Caesar, crucify Him! Let this man's blood be on us and on our children"). The harlot acknowledged her adultery, "I am not a widow," meaning that she still has a husband, and he is not dead. The beast hated her, however, and eventually destroyed her (70 AD), and with the punishment reserved for the daughters of priests who became harlots, she was burned up by fire. God had been "married" to Israel, who never was faithful to Him, and because of her spiritual adultery, she was "executed" as Jewish law permits by the Romans. This allowed the Bride of Christ (church), the New Jerusalem, to take her rightful position at the marriage supper of the Lamb. She replaced the executed adulterous Old Jerusalem as this bride. Next, the beast, with the forced worship of its Emperor as God by all of its citizens, was dealt with. The beast continued to persecute the church and eventually was defeated by the rider of the white horse (Christ), whose weapon was the sword of the Spirit coming from His mouth (the gospel, the Word). By the 4th century, the Roman Empire declared Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire and, in complete reversal, the church had triumphed. Eventually, Paganism was made illegal, conquering the beast. For a lengthy period of time (millennium), Satan was prohibited (bound) from empowering nations to continue to persecute Christians on a worldwide basis like the Roman Empire days, and simultaneously the martyred souls who were slaughtered came to life and reigned with an already reigning Christ. This allowed Christianity to flourish and progress throughout this period, uninhibited and spread to every corner of the world. Then, after this lengthy time period (millennium), an event yet still in the future, Satan will be released briefly to attempt to empower all of the nations for worldwide persecution of the church once again, hoping to finally destroy them (he surrounds the great city, the New Jerusalem). Just before this occurs, however, Christ intervenes and destroys Satan and then institutes the final judgment of all humanity. Then eternity begins with the righteous receiving their reward and the damned sentenced to eternal punishment. As far as the millennium goes, I consider myself amill. Things are definitely not getting better. IMO, if we are not currently living in the days of Revelation 20:7-10, then we definitely are not far from it. When the French Revolution happened, with its Cult or Age of Reason, the influence on Christianity in Europe was forever changed. Because of this, by the mid 19th century, you had the writings of Karl Marx and Charles Darwin, both who greatly influenced the 20th century. Here we are in the early 21st century, and Christianity in the West is in retreat. The religious "nones" are the fastest growing group in America. Churches in Europe are being turned into museums. Muslims are growing fast in the East. This is not progress.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

TO ALL PRETERISTS: Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy. REPENT, while you can

[@jennacalicchio4312]

Could you do a video to explain this in further detail, please?

[@larrymcclain8874]

@qwerty-so6ml The Greek word "tachei" (Rev. 1:1) never allows for postponement in all of its biblical uses. It only means immediate or soon or shortly.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

@@larrymcclain8874 Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Shalom.

[@larrymcclain8874]

@qwerty-so6ml John 8:44 (Hey, I can play this silly meaningless game).

[@nathanlidgett5688]

Tov = Second Thessalonians 2: 4-8 is tilling of the PRIEST sitting in the temple making himself out as g-ds Till G-D takes him out of the way. you see they are sitting in Moses' seat (Matthew 23:2 ), == Making himself out as g-ds, Jesus had already raised the dead by this time (Isaiah 26:19 -21) from Ezekiel 37:20-28 is tilling of the resurrection of the dead, and taking them to heaven and in v 25 G-D will also rise there Childrens, Children`s, Children Forever, and G-Ds sanctuary will be in the midst of them. so you see Hebrews 9:27-28 is how you walk. is your Judgment. = Shalom.

[@keittkatranch5167]

I'm basically a historisist, though partial preterism makes a lot of sense. I subscribed to a full preterist publication for a couple of years and the more I read it the less sense it made.

[@seasquawker]

I think Psalm 102 sheds a lot of light on this. Many people say the first few verses of this chapter might even refer to the Holocaust during WW2. Then, it says that favor will be shown to Zion's stones and dust by the servants of the Lord. Psalm 102:13-15. That then at this time the Lord will appear in His glory. Psalm 102:16. And that this is written to the generation to come, still not born. Psalm 102:18. This fits in with Matthew 24:32-35 and the parable of the fig tree. Luke 13:6-8, Hosea 9:10. Note the 3 times He came expecting to find fruit. The first time during the Exodus wilderness wanderings. And a judgment thereafter every time He came and didn't find fruit. #1 perished in the desert #2 Babylonian captivity, #3 70AD Micah 7:1 Before #4 Israel must be regathered, blossoming, and be living safely in their own land. Ezekiel 38:8, Joel 2:22. Israel was scattered and desolate in 70AD, not blossoming or living in safety. Jesus declared this in Matthew 23:37-38. Matthew 21:18-19 But as Psalm 102 and Ezekiel 38 show us, along with the parable of the fig tree in Matthew 24:32-35, Israel cannot be desolate at the time of Christ's second coming. Note again, the arrival of the presence of the Lord here in Ezekiel 38:20, just as we see in Psalm 102:16, and Matthew 24:29-30 accompanied with the shaking of the earth. And see the similarities in the plague that God will send among the ungodly. Ezekiel 38:21, Zechariah 14:13, Psalm 2:4 Because they had an evil plan: Psalm 2:1, Ezekiel 38:10, Psalm 21:8-11 Amos 9 Verse 15: No longer be pulled up It's interesting that while we see all these verses about being desolate, and being withered, and unfruitful, and judgment... within these same verses are verses about a fruitful remnant, a deliverance, and a salvation, singing... Amos 8, Joel 1:12, Joel 2:22, 32, Isaiah 30:27-30

[@larrymcclain8874]

IMO, Dan Jenkins at Palm Beach Lakes church of Christ has the best series on Revelation. It is here on KZbin under the playlist at Palm Beach Lakes church of Christ, in Florida.

[@isaacperez7228]

Jesus fulfilled all prophecy in the first century no one is in there graves that's why he defeated the grave

[@SugoiEnglish1]

Exactly. When Christ was on earth, he said no one has ascended to heaven. Now people assume (rightly) that those who die in the lord go to heaven immediately. Why? Because he returned and raised the dead.

[@paulwise6856]

What do you mean nothing left, all those who believe are still saved, maybe nothing dangerous and exciting left

[@randyfleming3571]

This lesson starts on the assumption that "has already come" 20 years after the ascension of Christ means the same chronology exists 30 years later!" That would mean the 40 weeks of fetal development in pregnancy would continue ad infinitum! Mother Israel was impregnated in 30CE with the blood of Christ, 40 week(years), the pregnancy would have been fulfilled, through much pain, agony and loss of blood, in the birth of a viable child who would continue to grow and develop as the Bride of Christ! The 2nd Exodus, 40 years from the baptism in the water, Israel passed into the promised land, a type of heaven! Chronology is important because if it didn’t happen in 20 years, it doesn't mean it didn’t happen in 40 years! Jesus fulfilled the 7 appointed times (Feasts) in that 40 years, appointed by God in Genesis and Exodus! The Sun, Moon, and Stars were put into place and God told Moses the appointed times of Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Fruits, Weeks or Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Tents or Booths, 8th Great Day! 40 years as the type Exodus, from bondage to Promised Land, antitype! Shadow to reality, physical to Spiritual! Hebrews 8 in a nutshell!

[@wagnerbaseballgloverepair6853]

I'm a Pre-Trib. I do not believe that the OD in any gospel refers only to either 70 AD or the 2C. The more common name for the position you are rejecting is "preterism." Either "partial" or "full." Full preterism is a heresy as it denies the literal physical return of Jesus Christ to the Mount of Olives cp. Zech 14.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy.

[@paulwise6856]

Ad 70 all the saints were raptured, all the rest of Jews were killed, who was alive and remained after the events to write about it, josephes and pilot both wrote they saw it

[@larrymcclain8874]

Matthew 21:33-44 is the Book of Revelation defined by Christ.

[@devinwaggoner702]

The bible says Behold, he cometh in the clouds and every eye shall see him. Did this happen in 70AD? I doubt it!

[@paulwise6856]

Josephes and pilot said they Saw it, most everyone would have been raptured or dead and unable to write about it, like lightning from east to west could mean everyone would eventually understand that it happened

[@purview4012]

The irony is that language always changed. It doesn’t matter what it means to me and you. We must grasp what it meant from the writer to his contemporary audience. “Don we now our gay apparels” in “Deck the Hall” for example. Or like trying to get my grandma to understand a rap song from today, let alone the 90s. The Hebrew culture is a whole different culture. Word for word translations are good but try translating “out of thin air” or “the cat’s out the bag” word for word in Swahili and see how well they understand you 😂. Since the Holy Spirit uses translations in different intelligible languages, He uses the understanding of Hebrew culture, idioms and motifs.

[@user-zd3ti9vl8b]

Math 27:52-53 is on Hebrew day called First Fruits ( plural ) is Rev 14:4:. Confirmed 1 Thes 4:14.( note same ## ) Math 27;52-53 is prior to tribulstion of Nero. Math 24 shall see Fig tree blossom ( Israel ) then this generation shall NOT pass away. No not AD 70 1 Four Zero Three Eight Three Zero Fortyone Twentyfour . JESUS stated "coming again" walked with Adsm and Eve and came as the Lamb Totsl of 7 Enoch "csught up" in first 1000 yrs. Evrrything happen. Lol. Not peace on earth. Romanism pushed Dominion now theology prior to reformation. Then Jusuits pushed everything into the future. Sime things have happend. Naploean took 2 popes captive back to France . Swiss Guard now at Vativian Rev 13 Biden kissed ring hand of first Jusuit pope. Rev 20 after 1000 yrs Rev 21 is 8th event "new brginnings" Zeck 14 no reserection from Mt Olives v 5 saints ( asleep - math 27:52-53 Lazuruis too, dead and alive 1 Thes 4:14-17, Enoch and Elijiah Rev 11 those beheaded Rev 20 ) from the heavenly marriage supper some 14:36 chosen as Ambasdors ( known in city gstes even now ) and reign with HIM for 1000 yrs "coming again" only ref of 2nd is contex died once for all NO RC mass or euchrist. Total 7 like the Menorha 3 events on each side of the cross. Solar evipse in April 8 begins 7 yr trans to next 1000 yrs. Noaha and Lot in contex both died after their event. Bith need reserected. HE told John Rev 1 the 7 churches destroyed. John 15:15 says HE will tell HIS freinds whst the FATHER has told HIM WALK in the LIGHT lest the darkness overtske us.

[@paulwise6856]

Very shallow, you need to dig deeper into the Greek, the elements melted means religious elements, the whole world Greek means entire governed area..etc etc.etc.

[@nathanlidgett5688]

as it is appointed unto men once to die .after this the judgment 70 ad and in 2022 .as you walk you are judged.

[@colingr318]

You gotta die to be judged.

[@nathanlidgett5688]

@@colingr318 You are right, what you do as you walk is your JUDGEMENT, at your death. Shalom

[@Tommo44]

You are misunderstanding Matthew chapter 24. So by your own logic you must want to misunderstand it.

[@colingr318]

Misunderstanding what?

[@johnpatriki5722]

Reread Matt 24 you will see that the chapter is divided. Historical until verse 35. Then, it points forward which some prominent scholars agree.

[@colingr318]

All in your imagination.

[@daviddrew3372]

If i accepted this theory ( I don’t) I couldn’t be more disappointed in the millennial reign of Christ.

[@SugoiEnglish1]

Because you are looking for the same type of kingdom as the Jews who rejected Him were. Stop.

[@CMBCanfield]

Rather, you please notice that Paul is not an Apostle, per the Jewish Messiah directly. Research food that had been sacrificed to idols (especially in Revelation). Please stop teaching and repent.

[@dennismelton2261]

Nice lesson. Pull up the Wilson road church of Christ they also exposed the AD 70 doctrine.

[@breakfastbuddy5]

there is no expose just futerist noncence ,

[@dennismelton2261]

@@breakfastbuddy5 the nonsense is with you to believe that God is working in the present nor in the future. Is God only limited to just the first century? Absolutely not!

[@breakfastbuddy5]

@@dennismelton2261 ???? you are the noncence here , God is always working in the present , faith is now , you can only change things now as a man thinks so is he you have to work on your salvation , (awareness that you are saved , working to rest ) the asurenes of your salvation , that the reason why its says belive in your heart (not make a decision ) ,

[@dennismelton2261]

@@breakfastbuddy5 yes God is always in the present thus providing My point that His judgment is not just limited to the first century. Therefore just as there was judgment on sinful nations in the past there will be judgment on the nations of the world today.

[@breakfastbuddy5]

@@dennismelton2261 thats were you dont understand it , the judgement is finishied , you shall not judge . thats were you have missed it , judgement is the fundation of works and religion which is dead ,

[@kevindevlaeminck1784]

Any person that says it's all done is most likely afraid of the truth or just plain ignorant. Has everything happened that the Bible says will happen ? That's a no. If you say yes then answer this: what happens next , what's the end game ? If you have all the answers then I will be awaiting your KZbin podcast, until then stop bashing the preacher hiding behind a keyboard typing out incomprehensible sentences.

[@stephancobb13]

u want an answer, search out don preston or William Bell

[@jesuslovesyouforalleternit8064]

Great point

[@antoniotulum4776]

@@stephancobb13 heretics for teachers..no thanks, fools who twist teh scripture and mock christians and jesus no thanks

[@SugoiEnglish1]

LOL. Explain what hasn't happened yet. Give it a shot.

[@breakfastbuddy5]

this is noncence , just read revelation 22 , its all done , i cant understand that i come quick will mean that it takes 2000 yrs , so futerist lies READ REVEALTION 22 The Time Is Near 6 Then he said to me, “These words are faithful and true.” And the Lord God of the [b]holy prophets sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place. 7 “Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”

[@dennismelton2261]

If you knew that quick in reference to God is not the same in reference to man. Remember 1 day to God is like a 1000 years 🙏.

[@christohattingh7763]

​@@dennismelton2261 amen brother, agreed!!!!

[@christohattingh7763]

​​@@dennismelton2261 and Revelation was written about+- 26 Years later after 70AD, and it is called the book of prophecy, not of what happened! Then it is not prophesy but of history...

[@johncalvino4508]

His teaching is NOT TRUE BAD PREACHER!!😂😂😂😂😂

[@muscle69sshayes26]

look up jesuits and futurism

[@antoniotulum4776]

look uo preterism and jesuits , also check illuminate stuart russel parousia.. you are deceive dand bewitched by liars..whats sad, you go out of your way to deceive further while you yourself believe you hold the truth...

[@keittkatranch5167]

True. They also came up with preterism.

[@jamesyaun]

Wow you are bloviating

[@johncalvino4508]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😅😅😅😅😅

[@TheSharperSword]

Youre blind.

[@user-fp5gv5xh9d]

false teacher

[@breakfastbuddy5]

there is no 2nd comming , its the day of the Lord , isaia 61:1-2 , malachi 4 , Matthew 11:13-15 New King James Version (NKJV) 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

[@Logan-ce2uh]

Censorship! You will not let anybody get up and present a logical alternative view.

[@cryptojihadi265]

What an idiotic statement.

[@daviddrew3372]

In actuality: All the signs of Christs Presence are here NOW but this has only been true for about the last 50 years. The great commission to witness to all the nations has not been truly possible until the translation tools the internet provides became available. Today the Bible is available to over 90% of the people of earth in their own heart language. when. I say over 90% this includes sign languages which are only presentable in video format.

[@purview4012]

The irony is that language always changed. It doesn’t matter what it means to me and you. We must grasp what it meant from the writer to his contemporary audience. “Don we now our gay apparels” in “Deck the Hall” for example. Or like trying to get my grandma to understand a rap song from today, let alone the 90s. The Hebrew culture is a whole different culture. Word for word translations are good but try translating “out of thin air” or “the cat’s out the bag” word for word in Swahili and see how well they understand you 😂. Since the Holy Spirit uses translations in different intelligible languages, He uses the understanding of Hebrew culture, idioms and motifs.