#70 Framing and insulating the walls of our old abandon ruin ➔ house

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[@RCAVDH]

My roof burned off because of a stove pipe setup like yours. I later found out you need a air gap and a metal box around the insulated stove pipe where it passes trough combustible materials. Please be careful.

[@Bigz87]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@netby]

Or there are isolated pipes for that purpose....

[@RCAVDH]

@@netby the pipe I had was insulated and double walled too. I thought I was safe too and it worked for 1.5 years but one day it didn’t. A tiny amount of sheet metal costs so little that’s it’s certainly not worth the risk.

[@Rickysaucej]

Don’t bother man they don’t take actual building advise

[@pete3897]

@@Rickysaucej do you take spelling advice? :)

[@meinmaine9138]

Will miss Frank, he is a super talent. You all worked so well together and accomplished a lot. I hope he comes back again!

[@Tylerncm1022]

watching these videos ive come to the realization of how much nicer it is to watch building videos that aren't from American television. no sound effects every 5 seconds, no narrator trying to make every hiccup and new problem along the way seem more intense than it is lol

[@-joe90]

If you stick a screw in front of each cover of the boxes, it is faster and easier to recognize which prototype is inside them, as before in the haberdashery with the button box😊

[@stefang5639]

The screw system deserves a video of its own, this could be a great standard for many projects!

[@VitorMadeira]

☝☝THIS, THIS!!! Please, a video just for the screw system! Thank you. 🙏🙏

[@ProjectKamp]

check out this topic if you want more info or leave suggestions community.projectkamp.com/research/can-we-setup-a-screw-system-for-a-community

[@paullee4442]

If you don't have one you need this: 🪄🧚‍♀😁

[@KoenKooi]

I would strongly recommend adding a carbon monoxide alarm if you’re going to use that stove in the winter. Bonus points for a CO2 meter as well :) After I hooked up the CO2 meters to my home domotica system I was surprised at how quickly the CO2 levels would rise with just 4 people sitting in a room, reading.

[@sleepystar1638]

lollllll bro you are so brave for having 4 people in one room

[@netby]

@@sleepystar1638 kkkkkkkk

[@peterslegers6121]

A small investment, but a healthy one. You can easily check whether you need some ventilation, and prevent a few head aches.

[@brmbkl]

@@sleepystar1638 you demonstrate the intelligence/bravado graph.

[@sleepystar1638]

@@brmbkl you demonstrate submission very well

[@lomalinke5042]

That was some amazing progress celebrated with one of the lamest high fives I've ever seen. I LOVE this channel. No coolness to be found nowhere. What a relief. Congrats to the builders for a beautiful guest house!

[@maretteschulz8898]

The high fives........🤣🤣

The pipe looks very steep. A kitchen 50mm pipe here in Latvia is placed at 1:36 tangent drop. Otherwise clogs are expected. The water flows away fast, leaving the solids.

[@josch468]

It is definitely too steep, Normally, the pipe would be laid in a 1-1.5% gradient (1% gradient = 1cm height difference to one meter)

[@brentverrill]

The speed of the flowing water will be too fast and leave solids behind. That pipe is likely to clog in short order. 1/4" drop per foot of run is how we do it in the states.

[@matthijsvanhouten7869]

You nailed that system. Screw everybody who thinks otherwise!

[@forerunnert]

I think it was Adam Savage who showed he glue's an example screw to the front of his boxes so you easily see what is inside the box. I like that idea.

[@LPmitKev]

this is one of the best videos on this channel! i like the positive energy and the progress

[@bexz5042]

bang on mate

[@cherylmoss3632]

Being adept at all aspects of building must be the most rewarding job in the world.

[@ricardosanfernando7378]

That´s a nice cabin Ask about the smoke pipe to somebody who knows well abot it. The tube SHOULD have a maximun 45º angle to expel toxic gas properly, not a 90º as yours. You could die inside or being forced to keep a window open when you fire the stove. It is pretty dangerous

[@alexsand2556]

When he said: "Without Vapor Barrier" i was so happy. Finally people who use their heads and don't rely on the industry...

[@gorillax1374]

rainy winters + no vapor barrier = mold on brick wall

[@stephanberg7335]

The insulation itself looks really good, but you guys might get some serious problems with moisture in the walls. It's a typical issue with insulating materials on the inside as the temperature will hit the dew point for the given moisture inside right after or even inside the insulation layer. That will lead to having moist insulation and that stuff can get catastrophic. Not only will it not insulate well enough, it will get mouldy after a bit. You should definately think about having a steam barrier on the inside. Right between the cork and the inner wooden panels. Those things are cheap, usually built with aluminum and are really worth it when choosing such a construction as you guys. It'll save you trouble and money in the long run! Edit: Watched a little further, you guys are somewhat right and have thought about it. Nevertheless, the steam barrier is needed! You'll have litres of water on the inside and that will soak the cork.

[@JBLHPJ]

I agree, this house will be a ruin once again in a couple of years if they dont include a damp proof layer and a air cavity

[@arieveloo9808]

Yes I thought every builder know s that????!!!!?????

[@stephanberg7335]

@@arieveloo9808 Yeah thought so as well. I mean you don't necessarily need a study that stuff to to so, but it's usually your best bet to listen to the people that do😂

[@42apprentice]

From what I’ve read cork doesn’t attract as much moisture, dries quickly and has anti microbial properties, so they may get away with having no vapour barrier - also the climate there is pretty dry overall, and the room seems well ventilated. Time will tell…

[@stephanberg7335]

@@42apprentice unfortunately the ventilation won't help and the place they live in is actually pretty rainy during winter and spring especially. And even if the cork can withstand that amount of moisture in the long run, it won't be able to insulate properly. If they are lucky they'll make it a few years without major repairs. Also, the wooden construction means that you have water directly on wood, which is not that big of a deal if it dries out properly in summer. If it does not, it'll start to rot away. In Germany for example we do need to proof that there's is more water evaporating during the summertime than collected during winter. Further you'd need an additional 250ml/sqm just as a safety measure when you have a timber construction in direct contact to the water. Building standards may vary but the physics won't change and those rules are there for a reason.

[@brioshoveit]

Wood in direct contact with concrete = mold bulding up. I would not have done it that way. Electric I would have put high as safety as kitchenwater flows above it. Even 12 volt is usually up high. The untreated pine will get redish as it sucks in/ cleans bad air. So a great choice of what wood to use! Bang on!

[@louisl.8724]

Here is a idea! Hot glue the screw on the fount of the draw, so that you do not need to open it, to see the what is inside.

[@ladyofcuriousvirtue]

I can attest to how useful that is because I do that in Minecraft with item frames, lol

[@JBLHPJ]

As others have said you NEED a damp proof later between the inside of the wall and the insulation and a moist air cavity, otherwise that stuff with rot in no time at all

[@kpakaify]

Yep, inside insulation is not as good as outside

[@dm.robert]

Have you considered maybe attaching (hot glue or epoxy maybe) a sample of the screw that is contained I side to the front of the boxes. This would give the workers a much easier way of not only finding where to put their reclaimed screws but also where to find screws for future projects? Hope this tip helps!

[@dm.robert]

Also you may want to do some research on how much of a drop over the length of your drain pipe is acceptable. Not steep enough and Too steep present their own issues.

[@christopherroberts9222]

HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!!! THIS CHANNEL HAS ACTUALLY FIXED MY SCREW SYSTEM :D

[@merrylkeymymysteryschool4806]

Love the Tas Man. So good to hear an Aussie accent in the Kamp.

[@valentingavran4704]

The screw system is crazy sustainable. Many people don't think about little things like that. This alone will make such a big difference! I'm completely into this kind of thing and I was so excited when you mentioned it in the video. The other comments are right: this is certainly worth a video of its own :)

[@user-rq1ob4ij9v]

It's a completely normal thing to do on a construction site, nothing new there 😎

[@MrPlito95]

A lot of people have commented already, but the screw system is super innovative and a very important step in order to integrate sustainability into the more menial stuff of everyday life. Congratulations guys, it really shows a very important change in your way of thinking compared to the rest of the world, a shift of paradigm from consumerism and waste mentality.

[@TheSteveAS]

Can I expect the "Bang On Mate!" merch to be ready in time for Christmas?😉

[@AB-ke2lw]

You should mount a screw on the front as a visual indicator.

[@ProjectKamp]

Great idea!

[@huntakilla1234]

Sketchy ruin.. I mean house, is making good progress 😄

[@uribove]

My grandpa was a carpenter and his nr 1 rule was NEVER like never ever leave wood unfinished in a finalized project,, so tho i get the "experiment" i just don't see value in not finishing half the wood since that will have more issues... I also might have oiled both sides before screwing them in to protect from the possible condensation in between the wood and cork

[@kschleic9053]

The condensing surface will be the cold brick

[@uribove]

@@kschleic9053 yeah okey fair, still doesn't change the fact they left the visible side unfinished on half of em

[@jimurrata6785]

@@kschleic9053 And so the humidity will be high inside the wall cavity while they have a wood stove blazing in the room. "Experimental" seems to mean disregarding codes and any best practices. But hey, they left all the screws exposed, so the cladding can come off to expose the cork insulation panels.

[@kschleic9053]

@@jimurrata6785 the air in the cavity will probably be close to the external air temperature, being cooled by the cold brick... It will be much dryer than inside, but only because any humidity will be condensing on the surfaces in the cavity.

[@charybeldonato9766]

i loved the idea of how they organized their tools and the screw..its easy to access and find them

[@frannyML]

wow this progress is incredible! Love the screw system too, that system seems like it will help in the long run to extend the lifespan of the hardware!

[@CrazyNapalmGuy]

So I am a senior architecture student at an American West coast university. Right now I am literally taking the class about how to design building enclosures and I have the textbook right in front of me, "Fundamentals of Building Construction, Materials and Methods" by Edward Allen and Joseph Iano". I am looking under the masonry wall construction as that is basically what y'all have built here. Typically a masonry veneer mounted on a wood frame is entirely cosmetic. When one builds the masonry wall the first course has a large through wall flashing right back to the WRB mounted on the exterior of the wood frame (you dont have one, should have installed one, I would suggest probably a tyvek or equivalent with a perm rating about 5~10) as well as periodic weaps to drain the moisture that gets back there via condensation in the winter and vapor drive in the summer. Ideally you also vent the top of the cavity to promote the most drying. Right now. . . you may have problems. The question really lies in what to do, as it is already mostly built. I think you should take steps to add weaps to the masonry wall, and figure out a soffit vent for your roof to vent the cavity between the insulation and the masonry. That should help mitigate the problem, but without the proper control layers I think you are looking at an artificially shortened building life due to high moisture that can never dry, and possibly mold issues. Sorry, I hate to be the guy. I love the channel anyway!

[@CrazyNapalmGuy]

Furthermore, I pray that pine on the interior provides enough sheer to stop that thing from falling on one of you in high winds.

[@thehairydiyer]

I'd happily spend my annual leave from work helping you all out. I wish that was an option as opposed to committing to several months as I'm unable to take that much time away from my day job. I love what you are all doing. 😍

[@netby]

That 90º curve in the wood stove exhaust pipe will be clogged up very fast.... I have done the same in my own "salamandra" and every 3/4 weeks in the winter I have to dismantle it to clean the ashes that accumulated there.....the ideal work is a straight up pipe or at least a 45º inclination.....

[@Alexdelannee]

The house looks beautiful with the planks, but it already looked good with just the cork, it's really a great looking material, so cool it also isolates and is fireproof.

[@stefang5639]

They could have just left the cork walls and used them as 360° pin boards for their plans.

[@RenatoJones]

such a satisfying episode! and that fog shot at 29:50! 🤌

[@ojonasplima]

Make sure to put a base on the burner that protects the wooden walls and the floor from the heat. Nice progress!

[@das_moendchen3250]

It's just so cool to see the transformation of this sketchy thing into kind of a "real house" :D

[@YourGMJay]

this is a huge step towards making this project sustainable long-term. So long as living here is difficult or burdensome it's not sustainable. But this house will dramatically increase the comfort level of everyone at Kamp. Great work, gang!

[@teegee1970]

Exited for the next video 😍 does Comments at this stage already influence the YT algorithm positive for when it gets released? Would be an interesting, completely different, experiment 😂🙈

[@ProjectKamp]

lets try :)

[@JaBa23BatEverythingForYou]

I can feel the Dutch spirit in electronic music! Well done, with a house also 😅🙏🏻.

[@stevenkeller3047]

Another "Bang-on" project team. You all do such good work. Things are coming together. We be interesting to see what happens over the winter.

[@HalsPals]

I've followed you from the beginning. This episode marked something monumental! I do pray that your community will continue to thrive and progress in strong unity. Amen.

[@Donkeh245]

I gotta say those windows and the colour of them is really pretty

[@gekesulen]

I like the "Bang on mate!". that is a keeper for sure :D

[@MaxwellGouldEsq]

Very. Nice. Work. Oh, and I can see "Bang on, mate!" ending up on a merch t-shirt 😄

[@emmaslow]

The jig for cutting the cork boards is so simple yet genius. Solves the potential for ragged cuts, and takes the floppiness out when cutting thinner cork boards. Definitely taking that idea on for the future!

[@peterhicks3516]

looking good, but still so much to do. I foresee a balcony and covered entrance to the second level, at least.

[@giovani6230]

Can’t wait to hear how the insulation worked during winter!

[@donaldauguston9740]

@@BobDevV This concerned me too when I saw this. I hope we're wrong, but I fear all of their work will become trashed. DA

[@leodomingox]

@@BobDevV Portugal. Knowing my country and the area they are I think they will get some issues concerning the wood wall. Cork insulation is used normally as well foam which is cheaper. Viseu area its pretty rainy so honestly I think they will have some problems, Thats why we never use wood framing or walls.

[@stefang5639]

@@BobDevV Thats why they kept the gap between the insulation and the bricks, didn't they? The plan is that the water condensates in the gap and flows out in channels on the floor behind the insulation.

[@clairedavies229]

The before & after for the Sketchy Ruin is going be be amazing!

[@pennyneal2456]

This is my favourite episode yet. Well edited.

[@camillewinnie27]

I love that you guys still call it the “sketchy ruin”. It’s not looking so ruined anymore. I’m amazed at how stable you have made that house of cards!

[@Soundx_on_Pulsechain]

In Portugal you need concrete pillars using steel inside, all around the building on each corners plus concrete beans also using steel inside connecting all the pillars..... otherwise your building can collapse on the firs earthquake.... we have a lot of small ones in the region.

[@arjanvogel6444]

Thanks for your vid 😇💟💟💟 Love you all guys,ha ha you are so funny.

[@Brelis]

18:30 Goodbye frank :)

[@MrPieterohearn]

Bus won’t stop, what a tune

[@bilbea]

"bang on, mate" haha Loving the Aussie :D

[@MrSludov]

And they are all soooooo handsome... specially the dutch and the german guys.

[@aleho1]

You will need ventilation bricks on the outside wall, you need more than one to allow cross ventilation for the trapped moisture between the bricks and the cork….. trust me mate.Good to see an Aussie there! Righto 👍🏻

[@tyonm3018]

You should add a ceiling and maybe attics space for storage although it does look really nice heating that big room up over winter might be difficult also you should properly insulate the stove pipes with heat resistant material if it’s too close to any wood it could cause a fire but great job it’s looking awesome!!

[@valeriucasapu1558]

The screw system is really smart.

[@AlistairWalsh]

love the music, I think the tight editing on the time lapse footage is great too. Really dynamic and interesting. Bang on mate!

[@zayoBIM]

Super impressive. Joints look tight! Most people would have just knocked it down. Good on you

[@amarillasolo5864]

You can get some special thing for the chimney stack, to put on top outside that stops large embers escaping and thus causing fire hazard..some kind of difuser. I will try to remember the name. They have them particularly for bell tents/yurts with fire flues.

[@tordlindgren2123]

luckily that kind of bricks have air spaces inside of them, making the place where potential frost stops being within the brick itself. Otherwise the lack of space in between the insulation and wall would make that space moist. I'm quite happy to see insulation though, because it's severely underestimated.

[@jeremygenslinger4874]

You should build a sleeping loft over the half from above the kitchen over the bathroom it'll get really warm up there with that wood stove You don't need a lot of head room if it's just for sleeping

[@flowmastak1]

Need to insulate that woodstove pipe away from the roof beams. Asking for a fire

[@MusicLockeMusic]

Mhhh... I can imagine how nice it smells inside of the house 🥰 fresh wood smell. 🥰

[@DmitriIvanov]

Oh and one other thing....leaving open areas to see what's going on in the walls is how you get problems. Your open bricks in the inside will be way colder than the inside air, as opposed to the areas which you insulated. The moisture in the air will have a much easier time condensing on the cold brick than on your insulation. The insulation needs to work as a complete system, it does not work piecemeal.

[@CraigTaylor]

Can't wait to see it finished "Bang on mate"

[@jakmiecz]

My favourite video yet!

[@geb212]

The house is becoming amazing, I like a lot the wood boards for the walls

[@fredlucas1972]

Hi! For window door, you can use a magnet lock. I made it. But, when batteries fail, door will open.

[@nehumanoid]

it looks really good and i love how you are using that cork! unfortunately there isnt any steam barrier. thick poly and tape/glue would suffice between boarding and cork. insulation will sooner or later get condensed on in the winter and from moisture, mold will develop...

[@tinalopez1522]

I like cork for wall covering not just insulation!😊

[@jeffjefferson2676]

So no vapor layer in between the insulation and the outside wall? I'm not sure if it is going to work out for you. So Frank left? Not too big of an exit then. With cutting the planks, don't you want each end of a plank to end on a vertical standing beam? If you have lose ends, you can press the plank inward, that is not good.. Yes there is a notch in the planks, but did you read anywhere that it is possible to build like this? If not, its probably not good. I don't think the "freewheeling" will work out well 100% of the times, probably more often then not you well get into more trouble than its worth. You did read up on the chimney stack, and i do really appreciate that. :) With fire you can only go wrong once.. My advice: read up on everything you are going to do, in the end it saves a lot of time, and gives good practice. Reinventing the wheel is an ambition. I get the experimentation on things you are doing, but do it with things where it wont matter all to much. A damp house is no fun. Time will tell, you may prove me wrong. I'm the type of guy that puts in ear plugs, wears safety glasses, a hard hat, gloves, and a dust mask. Greetings, Jeff

[@NRO14]

I love the way you treat each other ♥️♥️

[@MrNobu93]

I read it as a Farming and got excited XD

[@patriciawilson6524]

Wow awesome job on the granite door frame. Always impressed with your skills.

[@ChokyoDK]

Can't wait for the ruin to be completed. Will be a nice relaxation spot in the camp!

[@ryanm2648]

I loved this video! Can really see how you're all progressing in your own specialties! Huge improvements, this channel is going to GROW!

[@MM-ih4rj]

Awesome! Vids better and better each week! Bang on mate!

[@Dianamukusheva]

Amazing skills

[@viebonike5118]

keep up the good work guys! Greetings from Greece.

[@tracyoniya9618]

I have cork envy. Also, very cool screw system.

[@Shinetime23]

Monday uploads are such a happy part of my morning!! Thank you ◡̈

[@scrapxiron]

I can’t explain why but I look forward to these videos every week.

[@MrMarkusmulder]

Hee wikkel house Amsterdam. Thanks for the video and stay safe. ✌️♥️

[@toddincabo]

very nice

[@magorzata7370]

I love your content guys. Can't wait for next video 😊

[@goodgrieflouiser5807]

Looks great guys. Good job.

[@mikeevers6202]

Mooi gedaan fijn om te zien dat het zo goed loopt voor jullie.

[@jcbohls]

Y’all are killing it. Good job

[@miraguedes9339]

Que trabalha lindo,e vocês são lindos e inteligente 😊 maravilhoso esse vídeo..um abraço daqui do Brasil🇧🇷

[@SolarLantern424]

I'm glad to see at the end that the wood stove isn't finished. I guess we will see in a future video the full and safe install of the wood stove. That's fantastic because for a moment I thought you were going to install it as a horrific bodge. I had to reassure myself "of course they won't repeat the mistakes from the pizza kitchen build and do the most shitty and horrific job on the chimney pipe"... Not after what was said last time. I know this job will be done with the utmost regard for safety in mind. 🧨🔥🔥🚀

[@pha1798]

I love the idea of the screw system

[@starypes7595]

well done guys! great job! it looks amazing

[@klappegmbh1340]

I absolutely loved the episode - congrats for the great work. It would be super interesting to know how many hours are spent for certain tasks. Can you include a timer on the next timelapses?

[@sshaw4429]

Loved this video……great content….and love the progress on the house.

[@anthonygrodecki7968]

Hoi the screw system stick one or pic of one on outside of draw. I did this in big engineering shop worked well.

[@mistersniffers5922]

Noyce. Looks like you're making good use of your rotating skillsets & giving the volunteers an opportunity to learn new skills while they work. I'm happy for ya.