Dollar Tree $20 Survival Challange Who WON Brett Or Me !
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@pinger5563 Жыл бұрын
Brett, survival 10, essentials 10, shelter 10. We used to do that with heavy-duty construction trash bags, fill them with leaves, and have a soft bag to lay on.
@rebeccaselvage92113 ай бұрын
Mom worked in lunch room she bring these 5 ft long clear trash bags...they we're industry I'm sure
@naelyneurkopfen97413 ай бұрын
@@rebeccaselvage9211so, she stepped from the school. Wow.
@darrellfincher29482 ай бұрын
One time soft huh? Crush leaves then flat as paper
@cossefamily65014 ай бұрын
That’s gotta be the most organize dollar tree I ever seen, my dollar tree always looks like it just got robbed. 😅
@WorldOfLimbo2 ай бұрын
Holy shit same
@jonathanherbert1346 Жыл бұрын
I’m voting for Brett: 10,10,10. The bed food & water supplies won me over.
@michaelstopher14713 ай бұрын
$20 gas station survival challenge. Case of beer, some roller hot dogs and some snacks. Get drunk, pass out in the woods and take a bus home. I have done this a few times in my youth.
@lorireed80463 ай бұрын
LOL exactly what I was thinking. That's a lot of work for 72 hours. They spent more time setting up than relaxing. Fireball will start a fire, too. LOL No one had big spray though .
@haroldbell2132 ай бұрын
My buddies and me would all go down to the Brazos River. It turned into a drinkathon. While in camp we watched deer only 200 yards away. The only thing we got was a mean hangover.
@lorireed80462 ай бұрын
@@haroldbell213 haaa haaa Hmm maybe I was drunk cause I dunno wtf a big spray was supposed to be??? Haaa
@dbbeck902 ай бұрын
You seen gas station prices lately? You’d be lucky to get the beer for under $20. 😂 Forget the $5 bag of air and $7 two-day -old weener
@johntuel23753 ай бұрын
What I got out of this is that I can spend $40 on myself and be stocked and comfortable haha. Oh, and I vote Brett. The bed and the TP for the win.
@mikereese15 Жыл бұрын
I gotta tell you I didn't think I was gonna like this one, but this turned out to be an awesome challenge and video. I think Brett won for at least the 72 hours. Maybe only thing lacking was good food. But that shelter, mattress, bug catcher. Winner winner grasshopper dinner. Long term though, with the first aid, fire, fishing capabilities, I think Brian wins it. That vasoline and cotton ball trick was new to me and absolutely awesome.
@rod4624 ай бұрын
A doubled sandwich bag of pre-"vasolined" cotton balls have been a standard in my go bag.
@charlessalmond70764 ай бұрын
@@rod462if you store them in a Altoids tin inside a zip lock you have the tin when the cotton balls run out. With the tin you can make char for fire starting. I keep a section of mill file (for a carbon stryker) in the tin with the cotton balls.
@BUTTERFLY75ful2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@mallyredfearn68344 ай бұрын
Have to say, Brett won the day. Shelter gave more protection from the elements including the ground. He took water to put him on, but still had the means to collect and purify. He came up with a good long term solution to food that was able to work catching that food 24 hours a day. He had two methods of cutting materials; more if we count the multiple blades. He had numerous containers including the sardine tin. You gained points for the following: Also having multiple blades and also a tool to manipulate items. Having a reasonable firelighting kit, that being; not one but two lighters and also cotton wool and vaseline. (Brett would have struggled if his lighter were faulty) Lost points for the sugar rush selection and washing detergent. (Much more urgent needs before this) Had good container selections, especially the bucket which can be used to carry items on the move and can also be used as a seat. Brett selection 9 (loses a point for only one lighter) Your selection 7 (loses points for sugar rush items and detergent) For 72 hours Brett selection 9 .. Points are; has water, can get water. Does not have food, loses point, can get food. Has shelter and it's a good 10 out of 10 on its own. Your selection 8 Does not have water, loses a point. Can get water. Has food, can get food. Has shelter, though losing a point as its meant to be a comparison to Brett, and that was the better shelter. For long term I'm going to edge a point in favour of you simply because of the following. Two lighters. Medical and tinder supplies. Tool to manipulate items. Detergent. Yes, lost a point earlier because more short term stuff needed, but you get a point back now. You 9 Brett 8
@violetgentry90415 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this, I think both were good. Only one thing I would of done differently is instead of Vaseline, I would of used the Dollar Tree off Brand Vicks Vapor Rub. You can start fire with cotton balls, but it can be used to keep cuts or even bug bites from getting infected.
@Emeraldwitch304 ай бұрын
Vicks keeps some bugs away too
@tham8233 ай бұрын
Loved the video! You guys are both great! 1st time viewer, just subscribed, can't wait to see more videos!
@talco8813 ай бұрын
Brilliant, Every year we go wilderness camping and this was awesome because I could get four tarps for one at Walmart. This video showed me ideas I hadn't thought of. The bags with leaves, fire starter kit. Hacksaw, there is so much here. Buckets, especially in areas you have to truck water in, need one with water by fire.
@karenswymelar81304 ай бұрын
Brett, he would survive longer. Your sugar rush is gonna wear off, lol. Brett had a way to survive long time. You two are great.
@gonefishing36445 ай бұрын
I would provision the way a hobo would. A packet of birthday candles for helping to start fires under damp conditions. A garden trowel to dig cat holes and dig up edible roots/tubers. A pruning saw for making a debris shelter and cutting dead branches for firewood. A chef's knife. A large metal can of juice/food and some heavy duty wire -- to turn the can into a cook pot and the wire into a bale for the cook pot. An awl or a packet of larger nails for piercing holes in metal cans. Picture wire or thin wire for making snares. A long handled metal spoon for stirring the pot and for eating soup. A bandana handkerchief to use as a pot holder and to filter debris from ditch water. Bouillon cubes. One pound of plain dried pasta (spaghetti or macaroni). One pound of dried lentils. Largest bag of individually wrapped, high-sugar, non-chocolate candy. A solar powered landscape light. Dental floss. One bar of laundry soap.
@charlessalmond70764 ай бұрын
For $20 at Dollar Store?
@gonefishing36444 ай бұрын
@@charlessalmond7076 If combined with Harbor Freight, then yes. Probably could do this.
@chrisrasmussen461210 ай бұрын
I know I'm late, I did this and put supplies in backpacks for my sons for Christmas one year, don't think they were impressed, but you each get 10's in all 3 categories because you gave me more ideas to add to mine. Thank you and I shop there too, for everything.
@mikethomas5412 Жыл бұрын
Brett: Shelter 8/10 Hydration 9/10 Food 6/10 Fire 6/10 Brian: Shelter 4/10 Hydration 7/10 Food 5/10 Fire 9/10
@LunchMeatTrump4 ай бұрын
What would you have done differently?
@Ryu_Shotokan3 ай бұрын
If you can survive it would be 10 out of Ten
@darrelldutsch Жыл бұрын
Love it guys! Enjoying your efforts to share and content with us! Love your idea! Keep up the great job!
@704gear2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that
@katiemccluskey46033 ай бұрын
Both brilliant. Enjoyed watching you shop. I really liked the "mattress" idea. Keep having fun and Sharing it with us..1👌🤙👍
@claudinebernadettejimdar16814 ай бұрын
Make sure you get black garbage bags. And Black duct tape, tarps and 9 volt batteries and wool. Go for gum with the foil on them. Utility knife. If it’s two of you make one of you buy the foods. Or go to a pantry.
@judiehavard49038 ай бұрын
Dish soap was a bad choice. At the water you use sand to clean your pan. In craft area there is floral wire to make fish hooks or paper clips . A piece of beef jerky or whole kernel corn for bait Vienna sausage.
@user-ew8qx6tn1r2 ай бұрын
Another great idea..paper clips for fish hooks 🎉🎉🎉🎉thanks.
@Frankcore4 ай бұрын
That Crystal Geyser is great tasting spring water too. My favorite bottled brand personally.
@Biggiiful2 ай бұрын
Same. Only good tasting bottled water imo. I use fresh spring water, and its the closest to it with no weird tastes at all
@brendasifuentes63634 ай бұрын
Brett all 10's my husband and I are living in our truck and this video was amazing and added to our survival knowledge. Thank you!
@704gear24 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@margaretspurling81623 ай бұрын
Some things from both of you and some things I would do differently. Somehow I would get coffee or at least a tea bag.
@decal1751 Жыл бұрын
They turned my local dollar store into more of a grocery store. a lot more food than anything else about 2 weeks ago and everything went up about 25% also 20 bucks don't go very far lol
@jennifersmith2582 ай бұрын
You both did great! 10,10,10 for both of you! And great job on the sharing resources at the end!!
@shawnbuck6585 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say Brett got a 10 out of 10 on his tent and 8 out of 10 on his survival And on the essentials a 9 at 10
@buzsalmon Жыл бұрын
Looking good gents! Yes, do overnight and fishing. But eat what you catch.
@CryBabysSentimentalHomestead4 ай бұрын
Brett has great ideas! I would have skipped the hand saw and grabbed a food item. You could have shared a few items to bring more food?
@buzsalmon Жыл бұрын
Brian 4 for Vaseline cotton balls! & Brent 8 more ingenuity and essentials water & toilet paper, leaf mattress! And minnows trap Both of you did well! Now fish, cook, tell stories, and sleep! Anyone bring a gun?
@marciag97168 ай бұрын
Brett! Survival 10, essentials 10, shelter and bed 10+. You can survive 3 days with just water.... hello Brian.
@jenniferforrest28793 ай бұрын
I lived in the wild many years. Second guy is much more prepared.
@keflas38424 ай бұрын
That pan is more than likely not safe at those temperatures and was probably chemically treated and toxic if the metal coating burns off which it will in a fire keep safe cast iron or pans made for it are ur best bet in the future
@donaldstepp48508 ай бұрын
Sending this to my bro because he thinks he needs $30k in gear
@Paigerbaby19769 ай бұрын
He "wahchaded" the spider and I hit the subscribe button. Lol
@DavidTodd-id2fl4 ай бұрын
I don't know who to vote for, I mean both have some good ideas and some not so good, but all in all I would vote for Brett but I would substitute certain items for others. I wouldn't have got the tarps or the cordage that you got, I would've got instead, jute twine, a pack of unflavored dental floss, pliers and 6 packages of Raman noodles and if any money left then a small bottle of multivitamins. The razor knife, jute twine, duct tape and the garbage bags can make a great shelter, the dental floss makes decent fishing line (just whittle a gorge hook from a small piece of green stick or other type of hook), if you have or find some small piece of thin metal you can use the pliers to make a hook like Brian did, oh, and jute twine makes great tinder. Take care you two
@margaretsherman75233 ай бұрын
I can't make a choice without seeing you guys fish???😂❤❤
@ronbarton51079 ай бұрын
Love your creativity and showing simple tricks in the words. I have to give you a time. You guys are the best keep it going.🤠
@ednapuckett10424 ай бұрын
Brett 10/10 TP is definitely the plus; Brian 8/10 I don’t agree with the fruit loops or root beer long term. I think they’d end up upsetting your stomach.
@heatherchannel71574 ай бұрын
Water beats root beer! Dehydration kills u quicker than anything..water all the way, great vid! Loved it!
@tiffanywooten52608 ай бұрын
Definitely Brett. He’s got a comfy bed 😅
@coloradopackratprepper9 ай бұрын
Dang i learned things from both of you!!!!!
@704gear24 ай бұрын
Thanks
@chadm6805 Жыл бұрын
That’s creative. Definitely curious how long you’d be able to sustain on sugar..
@f1rebreather123 Жыл бұрын
Not very long. You might be able to live for a little while, but I'd say it's around the same as just not eating at all. It's only good for some quick energy.
@waytoson3 ай бұрын
right off the bat, that hack saw is worthless and the crappiest thing DT has ever sold. Both had good ideas. Sugar high for 72 hours is also a good plan. Water can be gotten from the land but a good sugar high comes from a store. Of course water is best but again, that can be gathered naturally, try wondering the woods and find root beer dripping from a babbling brook. Cotton ball fire is great, as long as your DT sells cotton cotton balls, not all of the cotton balls will light up like that, some are of a non burning material. They both have containers for a fish trap, the root beer jug works well also. The fish hook idea is good, will need to really downsize it. And he is right about the food, only 72 hours food is not even a concern. Fruitloops and rootbeer is a great way to keep motivated for such a short time, and you can collect water. Hands down Brett has the best shelter. His fish trap is great but you can steal that idea and use it as well use your rootbeer jug and a few fruit loops, will work as well. The toilet paper can be used for fire starting but just grap a leaf dude. Both have great ideas. Using my wifes YT account hope she doesn't mind.
@Birchbundle10223 ай бұрын
Well Brett got my vote...gotta have a place to rest..reuse of water jug..etc
@kyleaca51224 ай бұрын
I made a net using the 40 ft daimaond braid rope. It’s not really big but I just did it to learn the knots and it was fun
@travisott97193 ай бұрын
Brian: Supplies - 6.5/10 Short Term - 6.5/10 Long Term - 7/10 I'm judging off of Dave Canterbury's 10 Cs of Survival. You got 5/10 of the 10 Cs, however, you could turn one of those key rings into a needle for repairs. Your pliers could give you a slight edge in long term survival but, the utility knife was not a good choice for a cutting tool. Also, I deducted points for the sugary stuff because that's going to greatly dehydrate you but, I think you could have used the Froot Loops as a firestarter had you thought about it. Brett: Supplies - 7/10 Short Term - 8/10 Long Term - 7.5/10 You got 6/10 of the 10 Cs. Grabbing the hacksaw was a good move, it'll allow you to process wood more efficiently but, again, poor choice with the utility knife. Great choice with the trash bags - they're not just great for a broughs bed, they can also be used as containers, cover elements, a rain catcher, and an emergency poncho. The grill lighter was a decent choice for short term but, not so much long term as you can't use it once the fuel runs out. Grabbing duct tape was a great choice - you can use it for gear repair, first aid, a flame extender, etc. Toilet paper was a great choice for short term survival for hygiene purposes and you can use it as a firestarter. Bringing a gallon of water was super smart for short term and using the jug for a minnow/crawdad trap was choice! The sardines are good bait but, you can also snack on them. In terms of supplies, y'all are fairly even. However, what really matters are your individual skill sets, your ability to make what you have last, and your ability to improvise.
@SteffenBoserup3 ай бұрын
I'll vote for the mosquitoes - I'm sure none of them will go to bed hungry that weekend ;-)
@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын
Imma have to go with bret on this Supplies 8/10 Short term 4/10 Long term 8/10 He set himself up better for a long-term Stay than a short-term you would win with the soda and fruit loops for short-term but where he made the biggest difference was knowing how important it is to get yourself off of the ground and how much better that can make your stay. That ground will Leach your warmth very quickly.
@704TACTICAL Жыл бұрын
I agree !
@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын
@@704TACTICAL this look fun though, maybe do a hundred dollar Walmart or Amazon survival challenge.
@tammyconley10243 ай бұрын
You both had some really great ideas. Brett my family goes fishing we have done the same thing to catch the minnows. Brain I love the fishing rod made from wood and the metal hook. I would have to have toilet paper though . Good job guys.
@nyneeveanya88612 ай бұрын
Also lightly coat outside of pan with dish soap before placing on fire. Makes cleanup easier
@paulahancock71588 ай бұрын
You both did great job. If I had to chose I would choose Brett. Just wondering how it all turned out after the 72hrs.
@user-zq9ym3ue2p4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video--you both did a great job.
@704gear24 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ispeaktothedead4 ай бұрын
I think you both came up with excellent ideas
@MetaloneVidZ3 ай бұрын
Brett 10s across the board. His short term gives him enough to set up longterm. That trap was genius he really scored high with a passive way to get food
@tanapittsford50673 ай бұрын
Brett shelter 10, water and sleeping 10, food for 72 hrs. only gets a 7. You have to have some food. What if you don't catch anything or if the creek is contaminated? Brian, shelter gets a 7, fire and first aid get a 10, food gets a 8, sugary drinks dehydrate you whennits hot out, and surgery snacks don't last long when you're burning calories build a shelter and gathering fire wood. This was a cool challenge. It's one we could do with our grandkids. Thanks for sharing this. It was fun and thought provoking.
@user-zz7eg4te9x3 ай бұрын
Brett is the winner, 10, 10, 10. You can survive long term, food, shelter, water. Love the leaves in bags. I believe I could survive, if I ever get stuck in woods, with a small backpack of your supplies.😅😊😅
@leonardvelasquez41624 ай бұрын
Good video! Didn't think I'd like it at the beginning but y'all surprised and impressed me. Kudos! 👍
@704gear24 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@genocanabicea57794 ай бұрын
Glass can be used to cut things. An empty 2 litter bottle can be used to boil water or make soup. Cordage can be made from weed bark. Water can be filtered with sand and charcoal. Nature provides much of what you need.
@richarddegise6396 Жыл бұрын
Great content. Learned something from both of you!!! Thanks.
@dwaynejackson69353 ай бұрын
FOOD - WATER - SHELTER Brett has a food source already. Brett has drinking water already. Brett's shelter is 8 feet and appears to be more solid and comfortable with the mattress idea.
@Andrew-jm4tp Жыл бұрын
A wholesome and educational internet challenge
@missmajor56404 ай бұрын
I'm give both of y'all a 10 because both are unique love it y'all must've been boy Scott 👍🤗
@jasonhunt41234 ай бұрын
It’s hard to choose between both of you because both of y’all had good ideas
@Ange1Ph1sh3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. Brett for the win, he seems more prepared.
@mfish28324 ай бұрын
Brett for the whole challenge.
@hayleysmith93 ай бұрын
This was Awesome! You both did great & gave us some great ideas when needed!
@user-es2ql4gj4g3 ай бұрын
My vote is for Brett, I have to say that bed looked comfy plus it put a protective barrier between him and the ground. But, I would be concerned about the availability of crawdads or minnows for food. Also the duct tape will come in handy for so many reasons! For a 72 hour challenge, I would rate him at 7.
@terryyocumiii9645 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I'm qualified to "judge" either set up, but they look good.
@almostoily75413 ай бұрын
I've seen people use a soda bottle as a fishing " pole". They unroll the line and let the current take it. Then turn the bottle over and over to wind the string back up. I may also get baby wipes instead of tp and that could be to wash hands, bathe, or clean utensils, wipe butts 😂
@joannaazar73963 ай бұрын
I found every dollar tree sells different kinds of stuff. The one near me literally stinks. Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated from- NewJersey😅
@readingwithgrams94843 ай бұрын
Brett won those trash bags can be used not only for a bed but for much more things.
@ladyrazz3 ай бұрын
Finally someone who brings soap for survival
@superdramaqueen213 ай бұрын
I'm a year late, but Brett gets my vote, 10, 10,10.
@blaqfish2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this and learned something too...sardines as bait 🪤 and getting the water and a closed container 😊
@craneguy38404 ай бұрын
Brett by a C hair. The shelter/bedding. Good nights rest is vital with water in the morning. But it was so close to being a tie i think 🏕 Brian's fire starter/MacGyver fishing gear is brilliant! Learned something new. Hoping for other videos. Great job gentlemen. 👏🏼👊🏼
@Obliticus Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, fun times. Yeah I was wondering about the spring steel used for those key rings and how well they work...make a vid :)
@lindaroyal81612 ай бұрын
I just watched this, a year after it was released. Pretty good on both of you guys. Tarps are a win, most important. You both had good tips for the items you choose. Have to give it to Brett for the garbage bag mattress, toilet paper and water vs. soda. I don't go out in the bush and to the "survival thing". But living in Florida, we always have an emergency kit stocked. One thing I also include, from the dollar tree, clear plastic shower curtain liners, they have multiple uses. Enjoyed the video. TY
@MissingLinkMTB Жыл бұрын
Feel as though Brett missed out on the idea of paracord being filled with pieces of rope. Probably would've been fine with just one roll and spending the money on something else, like cotton balls and vaseline. You spent money on food to last you 72 hours, but then spent money to "hopefully" get you additional food, which also meant buying detergent and a pan. You probably could do a $10 challenge based on your ideas of 72 hours living off cereal and root beer. Brett gets the thumbs up on bed and bathroom. He's relying on catching food though. You've compromised on bed and bathroom, but you have food and basic shelter. Brett: 7, 6, 7. Brian 8, 10, 7. Now if the two of you combined that $40 you could probably be profesionally homeless.
@704gear2 Жыл бұрын
Haha I love the feed back !
@brendamurta8644 ай бұрын
Brett servival-10, essentials-10, shelter and long term-10.
@bderryberry49873 ай бұрын
Nicely done guys! I vote 10 for the video itself and plusses for you both for ingenuity on a budget. I'll never go in a Dollar store again without remembering this video!!
@fjolliff63084 ай бұрын
Y'all did great! I'd probably have skipped the hacksaw because of the low quality and it'd break too easily. Instead, I'd take a knapsack or tote bag. You can forage and collect firewood or leaves, you can carry your supplies more easily. You could use the grocery bags for a little while, but they're too flimsy and will be useless after the first item that pokes a hole.
@lypipherap8993 ай бұрын
Just found the video today. Im impressed with both of you. Shelter would be brett, love that mattress. I liked the crawdad and mino cage. I liked your idea for the fire starters and fruit loops. Boyh of you got the idea for the boiling water, cooking vessel... but how will you flip, turn, or get the food you cook out of it?
@704gear23 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@frithar3 ай бұрын
Chopsticks
@teemuholopainen47454 ай бұрын
Awesome shit and i bet you had fun making it
@crazynok5511 Жыл бұрын
This is the stuff I enjoy , the shooting on your other channel is good too.
@user-xm5wq2by8w3 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea guys.
@704gear23 ай бұрын
Thanks
@edsweeney6843 Жыл бұрын
You both did great. I learned a lot from you both. Thank you.
@karenwhite44843 ай бұрын
Our DollarTree has never been that well stocked.
@rguy57 Жыл бұрын
Picking one against the other is near impossible. You both deserve 10’s all around. So my tie breaker is water vs Root-beer. Sorry water wins!
@adventurouskari60183 ай бұрын
I believe Brett is the winner. 10, 10, 10. I always travel or hike with trash bags, water is key over soda. Though I always have cotton balls and some Vaseline.
Really like this video I'm glad you're gonna do some more
@marlaf15454 ай бұрын
Brett , survival 10 essentials 10 , shelter 10 great job . Brian survival 6 essential 6 shelter 5 .
@fredk41364 ай бұрын
If you put the two ideas together and build your shelter next to each other with a campfire between the two, it can be a fun camping trip.
@jameskelly16803 ай бұрын
Excellent job, both of you. You used different methods, and each had its strengths and weaknesses. You were strong on fire, Brett was strong on shelter. I would love to see a followup video where you actually use the fishing supplies and spend the night in real-world conditions.
@lynnssherredswreathscrafts26684 ай бұрын
You both had great ideas, both get 10, 10, & 10!!
@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын
The best gear for survival are things that can serve more than one purpose, I try to use gear that can do at least 3 different things.
@danielfegley27353 ай бұрын
Don't know how I missed this one I've been looking up camping and survival stuff for the past two years, I agree with the soda and the cereal got to have my sugar rush actually I've been saying for a long time why by smart water for your filter top when it can probably fit any water or soda bottle got to see the second half of this
@jwatson15 Жыл бұрын
If you wanted to make fish hooks it seems like getting a pack of safety pins would have been the better bet.
@704TACTICAL Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@kokopelau69546 ай бұрын
@704TACTICAL why waste money on safety pins, use a gorge. It's natural, replaceable, and been used for thousands of years.
@ramonalanders77494 ай бұрын
This was definitely interesting. With two tarps I probably would have went teepee around a tree.
@robrowe31814 ай бұрын
Sounds like fun to try.
@pboone1231 Жыл бұрын
Going to have to vote for Bret. Sorry.
@user-dz3fo4wl8x3 ай бұрын
Essentials n the mattress did it for me
@doinsngoins5 ай бұрын
Great video and concept
@charlessalmond70764 ай бұрын
As a 52yr old smoker. I approve the Scripto lighters. I know Bic, Bic,Bic,Bic, etc.... Ive used the scriptos for years. A 7 pack at Walmart is 2.97. 2 Bics cost that much. Decent fire source.