722.6 Nag1 transmission mod + repairs, conductor plate, service, program plate W210 E300td

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The shop w210 e300 turbodiesel had some shifting issues after the 7.7mm EDC fuel pump upgrade, finally we make it better.

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@RANDASH 7 ай бұрын

Hey, I'm the creator of the ultimate-nag52 project...during my research, I've found there are actually 2 valve bodies for the 722.6 (blue/brown top solenoids have no effect in this regards), 7700mbar peak body, and 9700mbar peak body (only fitted to 113k and V12 cars). If you want a massive upgrade in what the gearbox can take without upgrading clutches, install the higher pressure valve body

@RANDASH 7 ай бұрын

To add to this, all the blue top solenoids do (there is a ton of bad info on the internet), is react faster to current changes, thus, allow for a faster ramp in pressure due to their stronger valve springs, but they do not create higher pressure, they just allow for more rapid changes in pressure

@DrZoidbergism 7 ай бұрын

There also are Versions with and without tcc dampener valve. What is the exact difference between the two valve body's?

@RANDASH 7 ай бұрын

@@DrZoidbergism yes, tcc damper valve is added to later revisions of both body's, but it doesn't affect the operation of the unit from the TCUs POV. the differences I'm talking about allow for higher working pressure. This is how the early 580 units were mated to a V12, which would output far more than 580nm of torque. It has stronger regulator springs inside, so it creates higher working pressure on the applied clutches. Swapping these 2 valve bodies without coding the tcu would be unpredictable as the pressure curve is different (X amount of current to the solenoids yields Y amount of pressure)

@rokasbaltusnikas6065 7 ай бұрын

@@RANDASH So as far as I understand, if I just put on a whole valve body from m113k car (p/n. A 240 270 01 06) to my w210 om606 gearbox 722.608, and use NAG52 Controller, I won't have to deal with all the v8 transmission swap fuss? And how much torque theoretically could hold such a frankenstein like 722.608 from om606 with valvebody from m113k?

@RANDASH 7 ай бұрын

@@rokasbaltusnikas6065 your probably just better off swapping the whole gearbox, .608 is very old, and a lot of parts have been superseded by stronger components. That said, I wouldn't know exactly how much torque it can hold, since I'm yet to reverse engineer EGS51 (which .608 only came with). There are maps on the TCU for max load with a given pressure, but when I find them I'll respond to this comment :)

@RickRolling-tc7vb 7 ай бұрын

This is quality content. Very interesting and informative, and exactly like working in a well run workshop with experienced techs and good support. Well done, thanks for sharing and teaching us how it's done.

@jasoncampbell4723 7 ай бұрын

The fact that your trying to engineer a manual valve body for that trans kind of blows my mind !!! Seriously! Well done Luke!

@tdotw77 7 ай бұрын

1:44 Dispose of this properly.....put it through a coffee filter and right into the fuel tank. Bamm, 'disposed of'! I have a 7.3 f250 so i just pour it right into fuel tank(after filtering, sometimes). I love these older diesels that have nothing choking them like dpf, scr, egr, etc. 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩⛓️🚜⚡💥💨💨🛢️🚦⛽🚧

@grigoryk6401 7 ай бұрын

I just replaced it with new one "from the box". After 450k it still was ok, but i got lucky, and i found a totally new gearbox in Mercedes box that was lying in a warehouse and no one needed it. I buy it, replaced front oil seal, thrust of the gear lock, main connector, and filter. Fill it with Fuch oil, make an run about 500km, and again replaced the oil and filter. So now my 25year old Benz got an brand new gear box for next 450K :)

@finlay230 7 ай бұрын

10/10 for the manual valve body on the 722.6, thats a game changer !!!!

@curvedbearclaw 7 ай бұрын

The world is still good as long as you're producing videos.

@MatthewDoughten 7 ай бұрын

I am not planning on doing this anytime soon but I just enjoy the content. Luke's great on cam and could host a garage show.

@classicrestouk 7 ай бұрын

Luke, there's a company called Nag52. He makes a programmable version of the TCU to help tune the shifts.

@TheGalifrey 6 ай бұрын

Just managed to pick up a '99 S210 300TD Elegance Estate in Champagne Colour for 1500 Euros, your 210 videos were the inspiration for this choice! Sure I will be making some orders over the next few months 😁

@danny_playswithcars 7 ай бұрын

Did a video a while ago on the FCP Euro channel that got into the blue top solenoids, which I did on my own car (a W208 with a 5.4L/722.636 swap). I will say, driving the car untuned and with no modifications other than the solenoids, the shifts were noticeably firmer than stock. Not jarring, but were more decisive to the point that subframe bushings moved up the priority list quickly on my 232k-mile chassis. When I eventually went to the OFGear standalone TCM, it HATED the blue top solenoids. The factory brown-tops paired with the OFGear was the secret sauce for someone who wanted to abandon the luxuries and comforts the 722.6 provides and instead wants the fastest shifts possible. Excellent video. Having done more or less this same job myself, even I learned a thing or two when it came to the valve body balls

@angavi2000 7 ай бұрын

So what’s your conclusions about ?

@danny_playswithcars 7 ай бұрын

I'd recommend the blue tops, but I'd recommend pairing them with a TCM tune meant for them. Some folks were concerned about the shift pressures being too high with them back in the day...I think that's a load of nonsense, but regardless, it is always wise to tune for modifications and hardware changes. Do the blue tops, but get a trans tune. And DEFINITELY do the OFGear, it was awesome. Just stick with the standard brown solenoids if your car came with them.

@bobandrews2328 7 ай бұрын

Along with trans-service, ( filter&fluid) I've always flushed as much fluid from the torque converter as possible without an active flush system. I simply remove and replace one liter at a time at the trans cooler inlet connection, up front until it runs clean. Usually 3-4 liters. This I do incrementally, "Before" the official startup. Nice to have a spotter with a catch can larger than 1 liter.

@paulfarghi 7 ай бұрын

As per usual, tremendous vid, educational, practical, useful...👍🏼

@spinachmodulo7418 7 ай бұрын

Perfect timing! Planning to service my gearbox this weekend👌

@kamalakrem571 15 сағат бұрын

Enjoyed it like hell Imma go buy a car like this and fix the transmission

@BartolomeOrsini 4 ай бұрын

Amazing vid,I wish I could do this,I have a 2000 E320 Wagon transmission is starting to have problems when cold, I have to let my wagon warm up 30 to 45 minutes before driving it after that works amazing,smooth and strong gears,I don't even feel the gears,but cold it doesn't work well,I'm starting to get really worried it's all I have to put food on the table, I live in USA and here you take it to a mechanic and then you have no transmission they will brake it,I don't trust anyone,same at the dealer, they will brake it so they can charge you more ! I did spark plugs coils and wires myself, I have to get the tools parts and corage, Study this Videos well to do it myself otherwise Mechanics will destroy my wagon!I wish I could find one of those Diesel Turbo Wagons here in USA, Amazing vid thanks for your time!

@heem6619 7 ай бұрын

thanks for including the torque settings, very helpful :)

@startuplyf1503 2 ай бұрын

Please make way more videos I love them so much

@Jonnyxs 3 ай бұрын

Brilliant video cheers👊🏼

@daytonstokes6900 7 ай бұрын

Take off your passenger head light housing (driver side usa version)and inspect the soft lines of the trans intercooler. Big deal right there.had a phantom leak .leaking without showing signs.

@asherkimball8349 3 ай бұрын

What a great video

@martinsuperstar6049 7 ай бұрын

I will buy one for sure ❤

@richardmills5450 7 ай бұрын

Yes , I agree defo got a good voice etc for TV.

@RossiDeakin0406 Ай бұрын

Can be quite Stiff 😆🤣😁,straight over your pals head or he just didn't bite back 👏👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👊

@arm_luvr1002 7 ай бұрын

Great car no doubt

@daveb1242 27 күн бұрын

Spot on description of the speed awareness course 🙄

@tramptruck4859 7 ай бұрын

Good video, the engine mounts are a swine on a petrol V8 😂

@craigk5452 7 ай бұрын

Put your hand up if you have forgotten to put a filter on.

@Robdutton91 7 ай бұрын

Mahker have recently put out a video where they say the OM606 belongs in a Mercedes coupe and nothing else, seems like maybe you touched a nerve with your OM605 series 😂

@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446 7 ай бұрын

INTERESANTE LOS RESULTADOS DE ESE MB

@laserowy_general 7 ай бұрын

Man, for the sake of the climate change! Do something with this exhaust. 3" should do the trick and high flow cat. Anyway,nice dad's sleeper wagon

@mikeducat8729 2 ай бұрын

did rebuild no my C55 722.6 used C180 valve body . vacuum tested and change the o-rings on the soleniods

@Fisgrisen 7 ай бұрын

WHO in the world ”welded” that downpipe? 😳😂😂

@roadiesgarage3816 6 ай бұрын

Dude, king charles fingers 😂😂😂😂😂

@finngames2837 7 ай бұрын

wait what are you supposed to ahve the engine running when checking trans oil?

@Neilzn 2 ай бұрын

I have a 08 jeep commander 3.7 awd with 722.6 nag1 trans. What does this program plate help with? I want to buy the conductor plate. Do you offer both is so where do i buy from? Im in the U.S. Great vid. Thank you.

@Bastard_Operator_From_Hell 2 ай бұрын

The so called blue top solenoids are not AMG related at all. As of end of 2004, all 722.6 were equipped with blue top solenoids. The people who say they don’t make a difference are stupid to say the least. They are modified internally, to withstand higher modulation pressure for faster gear switching. And I don’t just say this. I have the original blue prints of the parts with technical specs attached. Just like I have access to all original blue prints of every Mercedes part thanks to being a former MB engineer who worked in development during the 211 era.

@FADI_Italy 3 ай бұрын

Hello.... thank you for the useful video, but I got a question, I replaced my car Transmission Conductor Plate NAG1 for 2007 Chrysler 300C 5.7l AWD, it works then not shifting, they told me your Transmission need programming to work correct, someone else told me it doesn't need programming, so I got confused does it need Programming as you a professional??? Cuz am afraid to pay money for programming then if it doesn't work then you waste the money for nothing. Thank you

@NicoGbasil 5 ай бұрын

Can you do this modification with a 2004 C320 with the M112 E32 engine?

@liamhoanzl2920 7 ай бұрын

Where did u buy that plate from ?

@lmsilvias14 21 күн бұрын

Any direction or tips on issues related to implausible gear or the transmission is slipping code p2502 along with code p2069 fault is stored in component n15/3 (ETC {EGS} Control Unit) P0730?

@pearcesteve111 7 ай бұрын

Have you done any R&D on using the 722.9 yet? I've had my valve body out of my 722.9 3 times recently, changed the conductor plate and got it working 95% But still some of the shifts feel a bit off at times. I didn't appreciate the function of the programming plate till watching this video, so wondering if there's a future upgrade for the 722.9 you could develop?

@mikeducat8729 2 ай бұрын

solenoid o-rings leak fluided pressure

@zactrimble4343 4 ай бұрын

Should race Kacper Grubba and there 6.2l Mercedes turbo deisel swapped w210

@nobba255 7 ай бұрын

Does the valvebody plate fit a 722.6 trans from a w211 320 cdi and does it bring any benefits for it?

@DieselPumpUK 7 ай бұрын

Yes

@martinsuperstar6049 7 ай бұрын

@@DieselPumpUK sounds like it fits all 722.6 right?

@ptun88 4 ай бұрын

I didn't see the program plate for sale in the shop. I'm about to purchase the kit and would love to do the upgrade as well! Will it be available soon?

@karldingbat 6 ай бұрын

7.1 liters with torque converter drain

@MrNobodyxab 6 ай бұрын

So 5 liters is enough when doing conductor plate change? :)

@no0neX 2 ай бұрын

have extra 1l on the side if you want to have oil level exact afterwards.

@moesboes8023 6 ай бұрын

No related question to this video. I am based in UAE and have a w126 that I would like to swap engine to one of yours. Do you have experience fitting your engines to a w126 body? If so please share the details, if no would this be feasible ? Mind you there are still a lot of w126 enthusiast that would like to use the car as daily drive but original engines lack the power for today traffic..!?

@HoomanR17 Ай бұрын

I don't see the program plate on your website? any links?

@ostapbender952 6 ай бұрын

Fellas got question. I have 92 w140 s300 no motor and transmission. My plan put it on m606 and keep simple no electronics. But I want turbo kit from you guys.Also what is best transmission for m606 .for mpg, ratio, and speed Thanks

@glennshrieves7234 7 ай бұрын

would love to know if one of your 7.7 edc pumps would work with my stage 2 tuned Sean Tracey ecu mod our would I have to have the ecu re tuned for your pump..

@DieselPumpUK 7 ай бұрын

It would work yes but ideally Sean has a different map for the custom edc pumps

@kovacspis 6 ай бұрын

What would you recommend for me to get if I want a response monster OM606? Pump and turbo wise. I don't need 400 hp, I want it to pick up early and have diesel characteristics.