Delta 747 CRASHES into Tug | Viral Debrief

[@aamirmasood2193]

I like his humility. “I make mistakes myself but am willing to learn to get better.” His channel is both entertaining and educational. I love it!

[@John.Oliver]

I was just about to same the same thing. No sense of superiority.

[@kenneth804]

"maybe I have, maybe I haven't I don't know" Translation: He's done it

[@susanfanning9480]

Kelsey has some "x-plane-ing" to do.😁

[@kenneth804]

@@susanfanning9480 boss: “did you?” Kelsey: 🤷‍♂️

[@davedennis6042]

LOL My thoughts exactly. That was pilots talk for "I plead the fifth".

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

(Shhhh, his bosses legit watch his videos!) He's defo not done it. (wink wink)

[@MrNicoJac]

Translation: He's done it, But doesn't want to get in trouble should HR keep an eye on his channel*

[@Michelle2A]

I love your self-deprecating approach and your inclination to seemingly admit to making every mistake, yourself, at one time or another. I'm waiting for the day you say something like, "Yeah, the plane bounced off two runways and then flew through the tower, inverted, but I've done that several times, myself, when I was starting out."

[@lindseydaynnightpatterson1813]

You are alleviating my fear of flight. Heights scare me, but understanding what's going on in plane is very helpful 👍👍👍

[@simplefilipina90]

That little 4 engine jet is a British Aerospace BAE 146. They are beautiful, quiet STOL aircraft. They work well in city centre airports which have notice restrictions which is also one of the reasons they don't have thrust reverses. They do have very powerful brakes though. I have flown on them many times, really loved them and was sad to see them go.

[@stevstro4498]

Hey Kelsey, when will you be moving to the left seat? Great videos BTW!

[@psychotictactoe]

Is the 'grass cutter' clip at Manchester? man that airport has a lot of crazy wind, i thought Liverpool was bad being near the river but Manchester always makes me nervous!

[@hllboi817]

A lot of airports now have basically traffic lights set up on a pole that the marshal controls thats flight deck height so u can get in closer and still see the directions.... some have the guy on a scissor lift basically

[@jun3078]

Hi sir, have anyone called you Captain Picard? 😂 just kidding, love your content.

[@yaris5150]

Do the three stripes mean that you're a first officer? I'm asking based on a photo I saw trying to explain the stripes. Love the content, thank you for the video!

[@Butter2.0]

Yes

[@yaris5150]

@@Butter2.0 thanks!

[@gdotone1]

man there should be a few cameras and monitors so you guys can see ground level when parking.

[@ibhasu]

So let me get this straight, pilot gets "punished" because the landing gear was faulty? That pilot should have a huge "you can get any job" on his record. That landing was awesome.

[@AdamGbl95]

That was a horribly hard landing on that first one. Way too slow! Flight Simulator AI style 🤣 The 2nd guy didn't get yelled at to "keep it on the center line enough." Lol

[@shaunholt]

Is it bad that after watching your channel, I kinda want to be on a plane where the pilot does a go around, just so I could think yep, that's the right decision.

[@fernandocrux3363]

17:20 - He was just helping the airplane scratch an itch.

[@jaytea3299]

Just like in the movie Airplane! 15:00

[@ariwoodward]

If I've learned nothing else from this man's channel, I've at least learned to just do a go around

[@MsJubjubbird]

I wish my job allowed for go arounds.

[@JoshuaTootell]

I still haven't landed

[@farmersmith7057]

I remember one time I couldn’t parallel park my car properly. I did a go around the block and then parallel parked successfully.

[@conorjohn490]

@@farmersmith7057 I know this is a kinda light-hearted commented, but I've actually done this more than once on a street in NY because I knew my approach had no quick readjustment to fix and the traffic pattern was unsafe for too much faffing around. There's always time for safety.

[@MarsJenkar]

@@farmersmith7057 Even with parking lots a go-around can be a possible course of action. "Oh, there's an empty spot there, but I didn't see it until I was already past it. I'll just go past, and if I can't find another good spot I'll circle around and try my approach again."

[@racingfuel28]

Second one Pilot: “Ladies and gentlemen we’ve hit some turbulence.” Copilot: “No sir, that’s the grass.”

[@katt5746]

That runway would be turbulence…

[@patricialisa197]

hello, i am patricia, how are you doing?.

[@katt5746]

@@patricialisa197 not good

[@patricialisa197]

@@katt5746 why nit good, whats wrong

[@1951split]

It's turFbulence...

[@joshuac5229]

That landing 5 minutes in looks exactly like how my flight sim games all go.

[@74gear]

well my sim landings aren't the best either 😆

[@giganetom]

I just land on the grass. If 'm not stressed about it, I can land on the grass beautifully. The runway repels me. :D

[@ruancktalles1274]

🛬🛫✈✈✈✈🌎🇧🇷🇺🇸👍👍👀👀😍😍Cuiabá aeroporto Internacional marechal Rondon VG Mato Grosso

[@jackielinde7568]

You know, if you just land at airports that don't have grass (like KPHX) you never have to worry about going into the grass. :D

[@jackielinde7568]

@@The_epic_chicken YOU! YOU! You are the JOKE RUINER!!! I've heard stories about you, but I never imagined ever in my life crossing paths with you. Also, I have to ask: Slew mode or no weather?

[@dodoubleg2356]

"Fix the skin, fix the propeller, no big deal." Should probably fix the gear too, ha 😂.

[@treeguyable]

Yea, was gonna mention that.

[@kenbrown2808]

my thought, too.

[@aircastles1013]

Would make a good viral debrief though……😂

[@philchia4764]

Landing debrief #2: "Skipper, what does INOP L.Gear mean?" Oh mother*-$-_-#+$$

[@Stefonius]

"For the rest of their career, they'll have an 'incident' on their record"... Yeah, and a nickname like "Skidmark Jones".

[@jackphillips5524]

The belly landing : When I was an A&P student, one of the student mechanics accidentally bumped his tool box into the retractable landing gear of one of the student pilot planes. He did the right thing and told the teacher and they came out and inspected the gear and came to the conclusion that he bumped the tire and no damage was done. What actually happened was he bumped the break line and shifted it slightly. So when the student (on her first ever solo) went up, she had an awesome flight, felt good , communicated with the tower perfectly (I happened to be friends with her and she wanted me watch the flight and her instructors had atc tuned up) but when she came in for a landing only two of the three landing gear came down she tried three times and no good. She ended up having to do a gear up landing. The landing was perfect except for no gear. It was impressive. She's now an airline pilot.

[@LeverPhile]

That is one hell of a first solo flight. Getting through that no doubt made her a better pilot ... I would think.

[@MikeDCWeld]

Hopefully that teacher was properly disciplined and the incident went on his record too.

[@88silvergt]

Kelsey, I’m an instructor for an international company and have used your videos as examples in class multiple times as it’s the same issues my clients have at times. Keep up the great content and I hope your brand continues to grow.

[@mrnimbus730]

Better be sending those royalty cheques @74gear!

[@88silvergt]

@@mrnimbus730 playing his video on my phone counts for his account, not mine lol. I don’t copy or transfer his content.

[@MXedits_1]

@@88silvergt even if you did copy his material, as long as you don't sell it or make profit otherwise, I think it's fair game to show for instruction/safety purposes

[@LeviForWaifu]

@@MXedits_1 Yeah I mean it's implied that you can use it if it's a public video, pretty sure KZbin Terms of Service say so as well

[@yabiyabi]

@@MXedits_1 What the hell is your issue??? You watching this video is no different someone playing it before class!!! As a former school teacher we use youtube every day ! Calm down!

[@christopherg2347]

Question about the channel name: "Gear" starts with "G", 7th letter in the Alphabet. Meaning the channelname is basically 747. Is that intentional or a lucky accident?

[@mattburgess5697]

It's deliberate. The site is really named 747 Ear.

[@CAP198462]

Probably intended, which is to say I can come up with plausible meanings for 74Gear that are really used in aviation. . 74Gear could be written as 74G-ER (pronounced gear; because, pilots). Things like that are a shorthand way of identifying a specific aircraft. The 74 means he flies a 747, the G refers to a specific variant so 747-300 or 747-400 and the ER stands for extended range. So he’s saying “I fly the 747-400 Extended Range” in the channel name.

[@rabbit251]

Christopher, thank you for exposing this Illuminati!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@denisdeari1]

He has a video on this and I don’t think this was the reason

[@christopherg2347]

@@denisdeari1 Do you happen to remember the title? It was propably part of a larger video and I can find nothing with the search function.

[@David-qp9bq]

Pilot : You are a plane and you are going to land on this runway Plane: No, I am a helicopter, and I want to hover on the grass.

[@skylerallens]

lmao

[@emotionaloveracorolla5274]

Plane.exe is having an Identity Crisis

[@BoomerangNebulaCitisen]

BAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

[@tomast9034]

plane: i like that soft green stuff :D

[@CruelestChris]

"I forgot I wasn't flying a B-52 and so the gear will not correct for my ridiculous landing angle."

[@vodnurse5702]

“ nobody wins when you prematurely celebrate”. Truer words were never spoken lol.

[@jeschinstad]

Well, it can be a double win for your opponent.:)

[@annakeye]

@@jeschinstad Hmmm...

[@rosegroshek1218]

I'm not an aspiring pilot, I've only been on a plane once round-trip, yet this is my favorite part of Sunday mornings!

[@gutemacupcake6278]

@Samson Holdsworth very lucky lol

[@shawnshurtz9147]

@Samson Holdsworth you're either loaded work for a company that's loaded or.... you're lying. Not really sure.

[@57thorns]

Same here, even if I flew a few more times. The only time I might get use of this is if I get a flight sim game. And with all the information I get here, I probably won't. :-) But I like knowing about stuff.

[@shawnshurtz9147]

@Samson Holdsworth I concede 747 are always over seas. I don't think they do domestic short of freight.

[@gutemacupcake6278]

@@shawnshurtz9147 that would honestly be pointless and waste fuel and waste of a useful aircraft.

[@ronpaulssecretary]

I bet pilots have the best answers to "what was a time you were challenged at work and how did you overcome it?"

[@karenbrakefield5873]

“Tell me about a time”

[@ronpaulssecretary]

@@karenbrakefield5873 "tell me about a time you had to resolve a conflict at work?" "Well, one time a passenger..."

[@joeshmoe7967]

I only ever did 1 interview (not flying related) where they asked that type of question. I made an answer on the spot as the way they phrased it, I'd never had happen. I didn't get the job, and I have never been interviewed again. Self employed since '98. I am not a fan of touchy feely interviews, where they ignore my skill set and intelligence.

[@sharoncontini3284]

Well, there was one ATC that was mute, but I still managed a perfect landing and got an award after making a phone call.

[@ML-xp1kp]

@joeschmoe7967 currently a CO-OP, have been an intern at 5 companies so am starting to be involved in the interview business as well. It's a farce, it feels like there is a conspiracy where everyone knows these questions are stupid and unrealistic, but asks them anyway because of corporate momentum. I have been asked the exact "how did you overcome x in the work space" question after 1 collective year of intern 'work experience', where I couldn't have possible experienced anything out of norm. Either they know that there is no way of answering these questions without lying, or they are simply stupid.

[@sampletxt9099]

your intro should be "welcome to 74 gear, this is your captain speaking"

[@patricialisa197]

sounds funny

[@hedgehog1965uk]

I believe Kelsey is a first officer (three stripes) not a Captain (four stripes).

[@patricialisa197]

@@hedgehog1965uk why do you think so?

[@sampletxt9099]

@@hedgehog1965uk shush now, we dont use logic here

[@ElMenorLatino]

@@hedgehog1965uk Depends where you work. Some captains have 3 stripes. But then again, i come from another country

[@Yora21]

"Oh, he actually touched down on the center line." "...and then he went into the grass."

[@tomast9034]

because centerline is the "LAW" :D:D:D for example, russian pilots dont give a f..... had he landed a bit more on the right of the line it would be still having fun on the concrete .:D

[@davidhibberd]

if he saw an obstacle on the runway, then a 'go around' has a new meaning :)

[@CassandraCompton]

Omg

[@karanveersinghtoor3345]

Kelsey , do u plan on making a video on your career story ? Would love to see it 🙂🙂

[@arranpaterson2390]

agreed

[@Beverly_Wilshire]

He shares stories from his career all the time.

[@billy4072]

And holiday snaps 💡🙄😖

[@jamescollier3]

@@Beverly_Wilshire $100 from me to you for each example, Jussie.

[@Beverly_Wilshire]

@@jamescollier3 Don't you watch his videos?

[@anhingathing2382]

‘The bigger the plane, the easier to fly’ Antonov AN-225: “Am I a joke to you?”

Did you ever try to fly a paper airplane?

[@JapaneseSoomi]

@ **10/12 flashbacks**

[@riks8269]

then my in FS2020 with 747: stalls on final and thought: Not so easy isn't it

[@LordOfPanzers]

@𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙 True

[@etzgames996]

Who tf said that

[@Suburp212]

"Nobody wins when you celebrate early" :) ah, Kelsey, the pressure!

[@rabbit251]

I used to work for UPS unloading cargo jets. We ran a very tight ship and followed all the rules exactly. For marshallers we had the point person and a person on each wing. A jet like in the 3rd segment would never had been allowed to move without marshallers. I have often been dismayed traveling on a commercial jet and see the wing walkers barely caring about their job. They are very lax and with that comes accidents, like this.

[@shuttleman27c]

im a ramp agent and the marshaller at the front probably gave the chocks in signal prompting the pilots to let off the brake when the chocks werent actually in

[@hoopslaa5235]

No, cause the push back was probably in park or gear also and the plane rolling wouldn’t hAve moved the push back that far

[@shuttleman27c]

@@hoopslaa5235 a 747 weighs a lot more than the tug and the tug might have not had the parking brake set. Might have been in neutral but hard to tell. Also possible that the person with the wands at the front walking up to the plane made the pilot think he was ready to be towed in

[@CooManTunes]

@@shuttleman27c How do you become a ramp agent? I don't see any colleges that have that degree program.

[@coreyhuggart9481]

@@CooManTunes usually you have to be a ramp handler for a bit

[@JanPeterson]

I think my favorite part of these is just watching Kelsey's facial expressions. You can see him thinking "oh, oh, ow, no. oh well. any landing you can walk away from..."

[@Michelle-fm2iz]

Omg, rewatched you are so right!

[@SirPlazz]

Ah Yes,the notorious ‘comin up’

[@spraggaa42]

The Delta Tug incident the marshaller and his ground team had a huge miscommunication 74 towbars are heavy difficult to manipulate and require two agents to make the connections to the nose gear. The towbar must be dead straight with the nose wheel an lifted to the correct height. chocks must be on the nose gear bypass pin installed. with all the agents converging the marshaller thought they needed help he dropped his "X" to go help the ground crew, the pilot took that to mean tug is ready an hooked up he released the brakes aircraft rolled flight crew realized something isn't right applied the brakes. safedoc is used at JFK its not very reliable. especially with the tight gates at JFK

[@kenbrown2808]

well, that's a very clear explanation. I can understand what went wrong.

[@karlpron]

Was it my favourite delta tug two?

[@spraggaa42]

@@karlpron naw the super tug doesn't do gate tow in its assigned to the move team

[@ursodermatt8809]

so 74 gear did not research this properly.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@ursodermatt8809 or he didn't have a connection to get the information.

[@CitizenChef]

15:36 is called VDGS or visual docking guidance system. Much more common at newer, major airports. Got installed at the midfield concourse at LAX. Newest version is A-VDGS, which use a highly accurate scanning cluster to warn the flight deck of possible obstructions. Can also automatically line the jet bridge up.

[@einar8019]

we have them at all gates at the airport i work at, we rampers arent even allowed to marshal planes if the system breaks, we have to just call ATOS and they come out and marshal the plane

[@ryanm7263]

Years ago I was picking up my wife from the St. John's International airport during windy, snowy, blizzardy weather. Her flight was delayed, so I was in the observation lounge waiting. A group of pilots showed up and filled the lounge. They started taking bets on the incoming flights, "I'll bet you $500 this one's gonna go-around!" "I'll take that action!" "Is that Kyle's flight next? Oh he'll never stick it, he's going right off into the bank!" Every plane that came in, they were cheering and jeering, and some of those landings were pretty harrowing. I had mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, they were being pretty cavalier about the dangerous conditions, and they were doing it in front of a civilian who's obviously waiting for someone on one of those flights. Not very professional. On the other hand, it was hilarious and they seemed to be having a lot of fun, no doubt blowing off a little steam after their own stressful flights.

[@frederickhoward4940]

Gt

[@Person01234]

"this plane" is a BAe 146 and indeed they don't have thrust reversers. Those big airbrakes at the back compensate for that.

[@dennisharrington6055]

I’ve read the BAe... have no reverse thrust because they were sold as real quiet so they could land/operate out of downtown airports with noise restrictions.

[@JoshuaSobel]

@@dennisharrington6055 Partially true. Also saves weight, and the brakes are pretty beefy for a plane that size.

[@gregculverwell]

I have flown on the 146. Don't remember any of that nose high malarkey, but this video is @ London City Airport. Its quite a short runway so maybe an approved procedure?

[@roanschaffer7720]

We know aready

[@qtheplatypus]

Doesn’t the high angle of attack reduce the effectiveness of the airbrakes ?

[@willjohnson211]

In the flight school I went to there was no emphasis on “aerodynamic braking” but we kept the nose up as long as possible because the C-150 feels like it will shimmy to death with that nose wheel on the ground

[@zaaajac]

hahah exactly what I've thought

[@Valantir]

Easily fixed by not using 40 year old aircraft that have been abused their whole life…. But that’s crazy talk.🤣

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

3000+ dead stick landing here... always flaring is a good rule...lol

[@maeton-gaming]

@@00BillyTorontoBill flaring is that pro move that makes you feel and look like you're goddamn Neil Armstrong in the Eagle on the Moon.

[@samiam619]

@@00BillyTorontoBill Glider pilot?

[@MurderMostFowl]

As a person with a moderate fear of flying, I want to thank you for this channel. It calms my fears quite a bit to hear you talking confidently about situations like these where it’s clear, as a professional, pilots deal with situations like these and worse with skill and confidence. As weird as it sounds, talking so frankly about these things shows how common it is to deal with surprises and how comfortable pilots are with handling them.

[@jeschinstad]

I feel the same about Air crash investigation.

[@mattscarf]

Check out Mentour Pilot as well. He’s been a real advocate for this approach to help people with a fear of flying

[@AlaiMacErc]

Guess it potentially works on a "well, at least *that* didn't happen this flight!" basis, too...

[@jasoncentore1830]

Kelsey has the best Aviation channel, I subscribe to about 5 of them. Kelsey is a wealth of knowledge with that dry sense of humor people love. I sure would like to meet Kelsey. I probably used to live close, if he's living in TX, it be near DFW, all the Pilots lived in my neighborhood

[@jasoncentore1830]

@@mattscarf Another good channel, Captain Joe is another, he is now a 747 FO Cargo. My favs are 74g, Mentor, Cpt Joe, sometimes I watch Dutch Flying Girl

[@NemoHose]

I travel international a lot for work and it’s a real struggle for me because I have a pretty decent fear of flying. Watching your channel really helps me out. Idk what it is but when you tell me how rare anomalies are when flying It feels like you took a chunk out of my fear. Thanks man keep it up🤙🏽

[@cbbuntz]

When I see a 747, I'm always blown away that we've figured out how to make something that big fly. It's almost a little terrifying. What would people from previous centuries think if they saw one?

[@sourisvoleur4854]

probably that it was witchcraft.

[@fibre_foxx]

God Protect Me is that a dragon?

[@Itiswhatitis638]

They’d probably look for a woman to accuse of witchcraft

[@BlinkOnWheels]

Which craft

[@XaviRonaldo0]

You know A380 are bigger right?

[@ericbailey9549]

It looks like we have to take that Delta variant seriously. Look what happened to that tug.

[@southwestclown1314]

Boooo lol

[@audreyhogan8285]

🤦‍♀️😂

[@jackielinde7568]

When Delta 747's go into rut, not even the tugs are safe.

[@philchia4764]

Get out dad

[@AnimationGoneWrong]

"Nobody wins when you prematurely celebrate"... OMG... laughing my ass off here, Kelsey! Can I borrow that?

[@txcrix9236]

"Dammit, hey tower? They dropped the chocks too soon" "Um captain, that wasn't a wheel chock.."

[@kennelsen7459]

Hey Kelsey, I hope you never give up on your show. It's fantastic. And this is coming from an old groundpounder.

[@FreeTim3]

Yea, this. I'm passenger on 2000 + flights (mostly for work,) 59 yo now and i do find these informative , reassuring + entertaining KEEP IT UP Kelsey thank you good sir.

[@plantfeeder6677]

I was in a Cessna 210 when 20 miles out of our destination we had a total electrical failure loosing all our instruments, radio, and most importantly, our ability to lower the gear. So flying right seat, I was in charge of operating the manual hydraulic pump to lower them. We knew the mains were down but had no idea about the nose wheel as we couldn't see it and couldn't comfirm it from the ground without the radios working and no idicators working. I've never cranked on something so hard in my life as I did that hydraulic pump till just before touchdown you could see the shadow of the nose wheel. The pilot was just getting ready to shut the engine down when he saw that nose wheel shadow. That was the biggest relief I ever felt in my life

[@LuxPlanes]

These episodes always get me so exited!

[@LuxPlanes]

After watching the entire video, I can confirm it was worth the excitement and was very enjoyable. The only annoying part was the fact it finished

[@KingoftheJuice18]

Good, but don't celebrate prematurely.

[@LuxPlanes]

@@KingoftheJuice18 why not?

[@KingoftheJuice18]

@@LuxPlanes It was a joke based on Kelsey's comment about "premature celebration"....See 10:06 and following.

[@LuxPlanes]

@@KingoftheJuice18 ah I see, my bad sorry

[@Raptor747]

That last clip's landing was beautiful. So masterfully done. And, hopefully, having such clear video showing that their incident was resolved in a very well-executed landing even in an emergency. Hell, if I were determining who to hire, that would actually be a plus--it's hard to know ahead of time how well a pilot will handle a crisis.

[@markpereira3931]

"could an A380 work with two Ge9x engines?" --my shower thoughts

[@Der_Yoloist]

Had the same thought some time.. keep me up if you know more

[@HDJess]

It COULD but it probably never will. Such modifications are really expensive on the engineering side. A lot of systems will need to be modified, almost all computers will require new software to accommodate the new handling characteristics, fuel metrics, etc. This would cost Airbus in the billions so that's why they would rather manufacture new aircrafts instead.

[@gurukn]

@@HDJess Perfectly agree dude... Now, no offense to all the 747 fans, I do love the queen, but the A380 to me is just something special. There are right now more 747-8's flying than A380-800's because it's almost like Airbus lost interest in i, while Boeing kept fitting new engines, new winglets, increasing the length, efficiency in just so many ways... I do wish Airbus were more active with regard to the A380...

[@clapanse]

It probably could, though it'd be a bit underpowered. It also could never ever be certified, since it'd be screwed if it lost an engine - engine sizing is based more on engine out requirements than nominal ones, and there's no way a single GE9x could get an A380 to an acceptable climb gradient if it lost an engine after V1 near MTOW.

[@aaronposteraro1986]

@@gurukn also there aren’t any freighter versions of the A380. There’s quite a big market for 747-800f’s.

[@nepocrates]

I am for lack of a better term a retired 172 pilot. I still remember the first time I flew through the VFR corridor over LAX airspace as well flying near Ontario airport in California. It was an amazing experience. I flew out of Fullerton airport when I did fly. Thanks for the videos

[@kayakutah]

Re: the Delta 747. I was an LCA at Delta at the time, but not on the 747. I retired in 2017, so I'm not sure I remember the exact specifics, but I think that was a tow in gate and when the marshaller walked away, the captain believed he was hooked up to the tug. At the time, having a headset wasn't required. As I recall, the procedures changed after this incident!

[@CognitiveHeatsink]

Yeah, I worked as a ramp agent for Delta about 20 years ago. First thing we did was chock nose gear and insert bypass pin. Pilot was expected to hold brakes until we connect coms and said plane was secured. My airport didn't have tow in gates and we saw smaller jets like MD-11 and DC-10, but I would think you would still want a chock and bypass pin first thing on a 747. Ground crew failed to secure their aircraft. Also, the marshall should have held his position. If ground crew needed him then they should have got on coms and informed the flight crew. I remember one time we couldn't get the bypass pin inserted. We got on coms immediately to make sure the pilot didn't bump the steering handle.

[@maireweber]

Having that incident on your permanent record with one or two youtube links attached should get you hired immediately by any airline worth working for!

[@sebtheneb318]

I've literally just been binging your videos all day and then this comes up, love the videos man!

[@74gear]

really great to hear, thanks Seb!

[@account4935]

Same

[@mystifiedoni377]

Same. Felt a little empty when I realized I watched all the hollywood vs reality videos. Time to marathon all the viral debriefs!

[@alisha8676]

@@74gear what are the safest airlines crash wise to fly in the u.s?

[@rogerbivins9144]

His foot slipped off the brake while watching a 74Gear video.

[@AdelaidePacNorthWest]

Hey Kelsey, sometimes it just as fun to watch your face as it is to see what the pilot is doing (or not doing, as the case may be). I love your videos!

[@notevenclose.]

"As your plane gets bigger a lot of times it get easier to fly, I know that's not really fair but life's not fair" -Pilot Kelsey,( note that.)

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

12:00 "do you know where the bathrooms are ? -Sure, it's over there by the fuel truck !" **Engines reving up**

[@hkr667]

When you need to go but the plane is out of toilet paper

[@JimAllen-Persona]

I had to go back and check … I thought that was the line from Airplane where the nose of the plane crashes through the window. 😂

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

@@JimAllen-Persona That was the intent, also it's been a while...

[@plsniper]

The Delta 747 that crashed into the tow tractor/tug was the pilot's fault. I used to work ramp in that terminal, which was the old Pan Am terminal. This was either gate 4,5 or 6. This terminal was so old that the lights to bring a 747 to the T and stop it did not work. I never remember those lights working at all in that terminal. A marshalling agent had to bring the 747 on to the gate with the wands, and stop it about 50 feet before the gate. 747s parked at the T at that terminal had the nose about 5 feet or less from the terminal window so the agent would have to be parking the 747 standing in the bagroom, :) which would make it impossible for the pilots to see him. That's why it had to be a tow on. The pilots ALWAYS knew beforehand that this will be a tow on. Stop the airplane, SET THE BRAKES and perform the engine shut down. Tow bar will be hooked up, the tug and the headsets. I've seen this happen a number of times but without incident. As the pilots shut the engines down and are given the sign to set the brakes, sometimes they don't set them. The taxiing pilot just holds the foot brakes while waiting for the tug to be hooked up with the tow bar and the headsets. Usually while holding the brakes, the pilots have their heads down, packing their flight bags with approach plates, charts, ect... so they can get the heck out of that cockpit after so many hours in it. It is not hard to slightly release the brake pressure on the pedals. Aircraft starts moving and when the pilots realize it, it has moved at least a few feet. If they only set the brakes, this would have been avoided. No, I'm not trying to badmouth the pilots. I'm a licensed pilot myself now. I'm only stating what I saw many times as I worked at JFK for almost 10 years.

[@patricialisa197]

but you need to realize that everyone makes mistakes

[@plsniper]

@@patricialisa197 When it comes to aviation, it is very unforgiving. Not only in the air, but also on the ground. Rules and checklists were made for a reason. If a pilot needs to set the brakes while being connected to a tow tug, he needs to take the two seconds to set the brake instead of holding the foot brakes. A guy gets run over by the nose wheel of a jumbo jet and gets cut in half, then you can explain to his family that everyone makes mistakes? Something that simple and stupid as setting the brake should be performed by a 747 captain making around $300 k per year. If he can not do it, he should learn how to say ¨welcome to McDonalds, how may I take your order. Forgetting to hold the pickles or onions and screwing up an order will not kill anyone. By the way, I knew a guy that was cut in half by an L-1011. Different circumstances. That was not the pilot´s fault. But something I´ll never forget.

[@patricialisa197]

@@plsniper oh boy, that must be a very disturbing thing to see ,i wonder what the airline company is going to tell the family ,i think agree with you , i see your points now , i wouldnt want to be a flight that is 30,000 ft above and the pilots makes a mistake, that would be a disaster ,do you fly planes?

[@plsniper]

@@patricialisa197 I used to. Last time was about 18 years ago. :) I have a private pilot´s license and some instrument time (flying in bad visibility and clouds) and multi engine time. (Two engine airplanes). I had to stop as I couldn´t afford to pay for it anymore. I understand what you wrote before Patricia. Everyone makes mistakes as we´re all human. But in that situation where the pilots should set the brakes to get connected to a tow tug, choose not to and I don´t know why. It´s not a mistake, just carelesness. Setting the brakes actually is the same thing as pulling your emergency brake in your car. Two seconds. The accident I mentioned happened to my co worker. The guy on the tow tug screwed up. In a turn pushing from the gate the headset cable stretched and got disconnected. The guy watching the wing (called the wingwalker) ran to the nose wheel to jump on the tow bar and reconnect the headset cable. At that moment the tug driver turned around and started pulling the airplane without looking first where his two wingwalkers were. The wing walker fell off the tow bar right under the nosewheel. I could´t get that out of my head for months. I still keep him in my prayers. All the best Patricia.

[@roberteltze4850]

I have heard an instructor advise to keep engines running on a gear up landing because if the engines are running insurance will pay to have them rebuilt but if they are off you might still have engine damage but insurance won't pay for it. Of course the same instructor that said this turned his engines off when he had to make a gear up landing.

[@kenbrown2808]

that sounds like someone who knows more about teaching people to fly, than about insurance.

[@KindredAutomotive]

I’ve heard the same but the reason to keep engines on was safety. Reduce mental load on the pilot and in case you needed to do a go-around at the last minute. Basically, you’re in an emergency, land safely and deal with the damage later. Same reason Cirus pilots crash and die trying to save their planes and never pull their CAPS recovery chutes.

[@martynh5410]

Great video Kelsey. I always learn something new watching these. I think the incident on the last pilots record could prove to a positive for him, since (as you noted), he did a great job of keeping the plane on the runway center and minimizing damage to the aircraft. I’ve only flown R/C planes and was always running out of fuel, so I became fairly decent at “dead stick” landings 😎

[@alecwhatshisname5170]

"The only reason you're gonna keep your nose up like that is to look cool. Have I done that in any of my aircraft...? Maybe,,, maybe not,, I don't know..." The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[@TheWoundedWarrior]

Flaring is generally done in lighter aircraft I believe. That being said, it's pretty clear why it was done this way. I'd much rather deal with a low risk potential tail strike versus the front catching and flipping the entire aircraft

[@seriouscat2231]

What he is trying to say there is that it's also easy to do it accidentally. Or attempt to do a proper flare but overdo it.

[@drewsmith3973]

When you land an Airbus, below 50ft, it behaves likes a conventional aircraft. :)

[@drewsmith3973]

It’s called flare mode :)

[@cloud1973]

@@drewsmith3973 Huh, interesting

[@drewsmith3973]

@@cloud1973 yup! Totally is. That thing is an engineering marvel.

[@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862]

@@drewsmith3973 flare mode has a whole different meaning with the planes i deal with haha

[@Rokomarn]

I always land my Airbus 51 feet up so it's levitating.

[@SamMurphyHSV]

"Mowing the lawn" Love it.

[@barbarachambers7974]

Mowing the lawn: reminds me of "crab walking" the plane. I have seen that on Flying Wild Alaska.

[@fanitram]

can you do "snakes on a plane" , "united 93" and "flightplan" vs reality?

[@patricialisa197]

soumds funny , how are you doing

[@Agent-ok4fc]

@74 Gear hey man just wanted to say thanks for everything I went on my first flight today and it went really well and you helped me not be so worried or nervous and I actually loved it

[@plane15man]

Don't kill the engines before a gear up landing. If you need to go around, you've got no power to do so. The second you touch down the plane belongs to the insurance company, and they'll need to inspect and overhaul the props and engines anyway. It's not worth crashing short of the runway to save your insurance company a few extra dollars. Your life and everyone else onboard comes first.

[@MsrTimToo]

Right, that's exactly how I learned it as well. When you kill the engines you now have two emergencies to deal with: gear up and engine failure.

[@ImperrfectStranger]

Pilots are not taught to improvise. They'd be doing what their FCOM told them to do. There are probably other reasons for stopping the engines (e.g. spinning prop tips not breaking off and spearing into the side of the fuselage or into fuel tanks).

[@tyw4439]

@@ImperrfectStranger the props will bend and be ruined but won't break off, even under takeoff power (there's a video of a twin doing a late gear-up go-around). there's some good videos about why @plane15man is exactly right here. I don't fly anything with retractable gear but in the same situation I'd be keeping that running. insurance company will pay for the necessary inspections/replacements.

[@wayneconrad9955]

Also, if the props touch the ground, whether they are turning or not, that engine is getting torn down anyhow.

[@tomcorwine3091]

Yeah, saving the airplane from damage should be the last thing on your mind. Safety of the flight is all that matters. If the plane never flies again, so be it.

[@malootua2739]

I wonder what it sounded like inside the plane when they struck that tug

[@justing42]

Bigger question ....why did they keep going?

[@tomast9034]

those people didnt poop for a week :D:D

[@leandrotami]

@@justing42 I guess inertia?

[@malootua2739]

@@tomast9034 haha

[@dynad00d15]

That crosswind landing: no matter the criticism, he landed that damn plane with very strong crosswind.. Kudos to the pilot, who got better that day.

[@Cyba_IT]

You know its a good vid when 20 mins goes like a flash. KZbin is a damn time machine! Could you please do a vid commenting on the Memphis Belle movie Kelsey? It was my first and still is lbw of my favorite flicks.

[@davidfrank3728]

when an aircraft hits that center line coming into the gate, it does not move unless guided by rampers.. EVER! They sit and idle until we get out to them, one ramper on each wing tip and one ramper guiding the pilot in, stopped and chalked. We own the ramp! nothing moves unless we say so! We are the eyes on the ground, This was all on the pilot..

[@Gregorius421]

The crosswind landing facial expressions tell a rapidly developing story: 4:36 It's a really cool shot. 4:40 Well, the crosswind will blow your cool. 4:42 That's too high. Should consider going around. 4:43 No? 4:44 No, (s)he's going for it. 4:46 Strap in boys. 4:47 Here we go, head first. 4:50 Not that high anymore, is it. 4:53 Turn back over the runway. 4:57 Are you going to put it on the grass? 4:58 Still floating past one quarter of the runway. 4:59 And now... a dutch roll? 5:01 Which direction is it going? 5:03 Might actually pull it off. 5:05 What? 5:06 No, the other left... 5:07 Now we are skate dancing. 5:09 Hold it there, that's the sweet spot! (one leg in the air) 5:11 Will they survive? (offroading) 5:12 Mmmmm. 5:15 It's on the ground... literally. 5:20 Oh no, it still might roll. 5:24 Yeeesh, that was close. 5:27 And... they made it back to the asphalt as if nothing happened.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

Nice 😆 This one actually had me searching to see if you'd left anything similar on the channel! Very clever...

[@GucciGeorg]

Hey Kelsey, could you make a video explaining the ranks y’all have and the procedure it takes to be promoted?

[@patricialisa197]

yes i also want to see that

[@Treadstone7]

easy, when you are First Officer (three stripes), you have a CPL (commercial pilots license) with ATPL(airline transport pilots license) theoretical exam passed (so called frozen ATPL). To get an ATPL, you need 1500hrs of flight time. The ATPL is what you need to be allowed to act as the pilot in command on a commercial flight in dual operated aircraft. So usually, once you hit your 1500h mark, you can do the ATPL practical exam and get promoted to captain (four stripes). But I think many times it's also dependent on the airline if they let you do the exam or give you the promotion (since it is probably connected with a higher wage).

[@mrjaycam18]

@@Treadstone7here in the US part 121 and I believe most if not all part 135 FO’s have ATPs as well with a minimum of 1,000 hours if its a R-ATP, 1500 if its normal. Things changed after Colgan 3407 for us over here. I know a few people who jumped across the pond to fly with EK instead because of this.

[@Treadstone7]

@@mrjaycam18 I don't know, I am only familiar with the EASA regulations, which I stated above.

[@mrjaycam18]

@@Treadstone7 and since Kelsey flies under the FAA requirements I provided the facts for us on this side to clear up any possible confusion for others.

[@dekcgi7891]

Great video as always ,Kelsey.I learned this trick while flying 737s in Brazil. The sunlight is verystrong and makes the marshal difficult to see when the sun is low in the sky. Just look at the shadow of the marshaler on the ground. Much easier to see early/late in the day. If you look at the mans’ shadow here, you will see clearly that the wands are in the crossed/stop position while he walks back towards the aircraft. When the a/c fails to stop he (sensibly)performs a hasty retreat! Canadian Dave

[@davidgapp1457]

So this was an RJ85A at Dublin airport, registration EI-RJI. A characteristic of this aircraft is that, if you bounce on a heavy landing, it tends to pitch up. I doubt very much the pilots intended to land this way. The shortest runway at Dublin is 4393 feet which is well within the capabilities of an RJ85 (the other two runways are 8652 ft and 6800 ft.) - certainly aerodynamic braking is not required here! The RJ85 (BAe 146-200) doesn't have reverse thrust as this would tend to bounce debris (FOD) against the fuselage and (possibly) back into the engines. The tail brake (deployed here) helps slow the aircraft and can be used for steep descents. I suspect that's what the pilots were attempting (reason unknown) and simply misjudged the landing - the approach, even before touch down, looks wrong.

[@aappbb]

As the plane has a nickname Jumbolino I think this should be known for Kelsey.

[@beeble2003]

Could it have anything to do with that airline also flying RJ85As into London City? I believe they do some unusual stuff there because of the short runway wih high buildings nearby.

[@markb.1259]

Sully had an "incident" on his record that ultimately likely made him millions of dollars in movie revenues.... that's not so bad!!! :-)

[@aviationdude1]

@@blankspace178 First of all, his career didn’t end after this “incident”, he kept flying and retired a year later in 2010. Second, he was hailed as a hero, and the NTSB stated and I quote,”A safe return to La Guardian was… uncertain.”

[@elijahjakobsen7898]

@@blankspace178 You named your youtube-account after your brain? That's nice.

[@jinde75]

@@blankspace178 after the fact when you have plenty of time it is easy to run simulations. But he was flying over a heavy populated area and he didn't think he would make it. He had to think about people on the ground too. A cargoplane in Amsterdam thought they could make it to the airport when they had engine failure. They didn't and crashed in a highrise. That was 1992. I wish they would have tried to go to the huge lake nearby instead. It was very tragic and sad. I still remember interviews with people who lost family members.

[@jameshall7293]

@@blankspace178 If Wikipedia counts as basic research, then according to the Wikipedia entry on the Miracle on the Hudson, the NTSB concluded that the probable cause of the crash was because of the bird strikes, and almost total loss of thrust. The simulations where the return flights were successful were deemed unrealistic because there was no time delay accounting for assessing what had actually happened, and etc. Also, almost half of the simulations led to crashes anyway. When a time delay was added, there was a crash too. So I wouldn't say the simulations supported trying to return to the airport, if it was basically a coin flip in the BEST possible case, with instant reaction time. And the NTSB outright said that Sully did the right thing. So there's that.

[@jameshall7293]

@@blankspace178 One more thing: someone being sued doesn't make them NOT a hero. Lawsuits can be frivolous. Or, things can be more complex. Sometimes there isn't a "bad guy," and maybe there are cases where someone doing the right thing can be justifiably sued, because of the weird circumstances involved. Point is, lawsuits are a bad thing to go by when deciding the correctness of a course of action.

[@yashandnikita]

Hope you are having a good day there brother, been watching you for some time. I am a research scientist and I am inspired by your videos, which has now led me to join a flight school and I am soo excited. Thank you so much for being inspiring, entertaining and educational. Been watching your videos for around 1.2 years.

[@welkinator]

"As you learn in your teens, Nobody wins when you prematurely celebrate..."

[@Puppy_Puppington]

You eventually come to learn that control is awesome. And painkillers or adhd medication make you last forever lol. Isn’t it mind blowing the first time you realize that like touching YO self feels insanely different than actually doing it with someone else

[@K4inan]

@@Puppy_Puppington Uhh... ok buddy.

[@sharkir9289]

@@Puppy_Puppington wtf….

[@monavie9110]

@@Puppy_Puppington in the future builds on the right to be the first time in the future builds on the right to be the first time in the future builds on the right to be the first time in the future builds on the right to be the first time in the future builds oikl

[@red_ravenhawk]

@@Puppy_Puppington ???

[@philunited8119]

Man, I would have loved to hear Kennedy Steve's thoughts on that Delta situation there :D

[@kenbrown2808]

I said that, too. you know he would have the perfect comment.

[@user-qr8ki8ue4i]

Hilarity would ensue!

[@Iwillfigureoutanamelater]

“Nobody wins when you prematurely celebrate.” I’m going to have to remember and borrow that one.

[@petdetail]

My 16 year old son in the other room has no idea why I'm laughing.

[@andrew_koala2974]

Nobody can win , because when one is a body then they are DEAD and with all the other Bodies at the Cemetery. You should learn correct grammatical English and know the difference between everyone/some'one' // every'body/some'body' Get the point that there was NO one like YOU before you were born and there will not be another 'one' like you after you are dead. Because One is unique and one is alive. A Body is a DEAD entity. This is your free English lesson. * People routinely interchange the two words, but it is only that they are uneducated in rules of grammar and do not know the difference, and the 🐑 imitate the other uneducated 🐑

[@Iwillfigureoutanamelater]

@@andrew_koala2974 Thank you for the correction. I constantly try to improve my grammar and will have to remember this distinction.

[@danceswithbadgers534]

The advice to shutdown the engines is a bad idea. You've already got an emergency. Now you shutdown the engines you create another emergency and eliminate the opportunity to perform a go-around if anything else goes wrong. Regardless of whether the engine was running or not, you bend a prop blade and the insurance company is going to insist upon a teardown anyway. So don't compound an emergency, fly the aircraft the whole way down. As soon as the gear failed, the aircraft became the property of the insurers, so you owe it no further loyalty.

[@davidcole333]

Kelsey flies 747's and has thousands of hours...your credentials are....???

[@wayneconrad9955]

@@davidcole333 Credentials or not, Jason Clements is correct. The modern standard is that if the prop touches the ground, the engine gets torn down and rebuilt.

[@joshualandry3160]

I'm going to have to argue shutting down is a good idea. I don't care about repairs or insurance. What I don't want is a fire. Fuel being pumped into a running engine is just an extra risk I'd rather not have. If I'm committed the engines are not doing me any good anyway so might as well kill them.

[@brownsville2467]

Shutting down the engines also adds an additional area of operation most pilots have little experience with. The focus should be on the safety of passengers and crew, not saving money. I used to fly for a company that flew Gulfstreams (mostly GIIs and GIIIs). I remember the DO opining over how much it cost in fuel to go around. Entirely the wrong focus. If you have to go around….go around.

[@kevinbaird7277]

When learning to drive heavy freight trains back in the day we were encouraged to let the drag of the train slow it down, the bad drivers raced then heavy braked, the good drivers used the more professional long run up to a stand, every second a train brakes it costs roughly $90, plus timeout for repairs.

[@jasoncentore1830]

My Father's side of the family has 4 generations of Engineering. They started back with Steam and the last just retired after 40 years. All named George 1-4. (Freight), my cuz was a conductor would have been 5th, he was on fast track to Engineer but went to the Marines. He regrets not sticking w the RR by now he would be top 10 seniority making 6 digits.

[@Cal90208]

Fellow railfan and avgeek I see. However I’m still a minor

[@cgrtbjj]

Rumour has it Kelsey only wears a pilot's shirt while making his videos

[@FlyingMozzarella]

XD

[@jamescollier3]

True that. Is he even a 747 pilot? I hear he loads the cargo, and obviously has a private license

[@cgrtbjj]

I think the humor has been lost, I'm suggesting the pilot's shirt IS the thing he is wearing. 😑

[@jamescollier3]

@@cgrtbjj right, I'm sure you can Only buy that after a background check [eyeroll] lol

[@Aegirak]

Lol

[@TechTimeTraveller]

2:34 - "So really the only reason to keep your nose up like that is to look cool.... have *I* done that on any of my aircraft? Maybe.. maybe not.. I don't know." Suuuure you don't. 😏

[@Zyantastic]

Just wanna say im scared as all hell to travel in airplanes. Thankfully i did not have to fly a whole lot in my life, but every single time it was the most unpleasant experience, simply because it scares me so much. For whatever reason I found your channel by complete chance (thanks weird af youtube recommendations) and I just want to say that I think youre fricking awesome and I would probably feel safe enough with you as my pilot. I definitely learned one thing from you, and that is that i dont need to fall into full on panicmode from a bit of shaking. Because when that aircraft nudges even just an inch i usually go into full on panic thinking its gonna crash and start imagining all the horrible scenarios i could die in now. Im still gonna continue avoiding using that method of travel though. Its just not for everyone and thats totally okay. I admire those who find joy in it, whether it be passenger or pilot. Thank you for all your amazing videos and for how educational you are.

[@doltBmB]

I gotta say I'm impressed, that is possibly the hardest non-catastrophic landing you could possibly make. Bravo!

[@davidmalone9022]

I have over 1700 hours, all in smaller planes, and the crosswind landing here is the reason I am a long-time advocate for cross-controlling all the way through final and landing. You are exactly right, as soon as he landed the aileron and the rudder were in a completely incorrect configuration, shooting the tail to the right and nose left into the grass (hard to believe the landing gear didn't collapse - which is probably why he took so long to recover to the runway, not wanting to provide any inputs until the plane slowed down.) Cross-controlling (and sticking with it until the airplane loses enough speed) means no sudden inputs, unlike crabbing into the runway. One additional comment: I don't know where this is and whether the airport had a crossing runway; however, if there was and this wind was, say, at a 45 degree angle from port, it would be a better choice to land on a runway where the wind is coming from the starboard side of the aircraft since wind gusts bat counterclockwise. That means that if you are hit by a gust, the wind would move more toward the nose, reducing the crosswind component. With the wind off port (as in this case,) a wind gust would exaggerate the crosswind component.

[@danielnoriega6655]

Really it could have been better, but I think we can't blame the pilot too much either, that was a badass crosswind, and the side wheel was not touching ground. At the end with bumps and everything, all passengers and plane were safe.

[@islandlife756]

@@danielnoriega6655 I am wondering if the wind changed suddenly at a really late moment, or if the pilot had enough time before the decision to land, to wait a bit longer or divert. If the latter, then would a poor decision have been his responsibility?

[@cata8602]

I have never been interested in aviation before, but these videos are so informational and engaging I can't help but watch them! New subscriber!

[@iitool]

They still need to tear down the engines for a gear up landing even if they were shutdown beforehand.

[@JeyKru]

07:58 Releasing the rudder input after touch down during a cross wind landing on the A320 will let you deviate from the centerline, eventough its a flying PlayStation :D

[@KS-dm9yb]

177 dislikes from flight school teachers.

[@michaelpcooksey5096]

I really appreciate your doing something creative when doing rest / layover in motel rooms. Outside can sometimes get into difficulties no one needs, as well as making yourself a target for people looking for folks with $$$ Great job with the videos. Both the wife and I appreciate your instructive monologue. Outstanding.

[@panapollophotography]

Re the turbo prop.. Kelsey:uncomfortable for the passengers Me: that's West Atlantic it's a cargo airline, nobody got hurt My amazon package: am I a joke to you

[@eme.261]

"Nobody wins from prematurely celebrating." 😳 Oh, jeez.... 😂😂 Kelsey's so bloody witty!

[@jjohnston94]

Commercial jets may be different, but in a small plane, if you have enough forward speed to keep the nose off the ground, you have enough rudder authority to steer. One of the main reasons small airplane owners try to save their brakes is that they pay for their own brake jobs. No, no, no. It's absolutely terrible advice to shut the engines down on a no-gear landing like that. It's a distraction you don't need at low speed and low altitude, and it leaves you with no options. No go-around possible. As far as costs go, that airplane belonged to the insurance company the moment the gear didn't come down. It's absolutely egregious to give a replaceable piece of metal priority over the lives of passengers and crew. There are documented cases where the pilot started screwing around with the engines on short final and stalled it in because he quit paying attention to his glide.

[@Saml01]

IMHO, I think the technique has more to do with preventing prop strikes than changing brakes.

[@jjohnston94]

@@Saml01 They're two totally different issues, in response to two different scenarios in this video. 1. It's perfectly safe in a small airplane to roll out with the nose off the ground as long as you can, after a proper touchdown (and even after nose touchdown, you keep the elevator all the way back, even in a tricycle, to increase drag). This can save brakes. I conceded that commercial jets may be different. 2. It's not the right thing to do to shut down the engine(s) before a gear-up landing, just to save the engine(s). As PIC, your duty is to the passengers, the crew and yourself, not to the insurance company. You need all options available, including a go-around, which you won't have if you shut down, plus you owe all your attention to the approach and landing, which you can't give if you're screwing around shutting the engine down and bumping the starter in an attempt to get the propeller to stop horizontal.

[@ceciljavis1470]

i like your reactions to dislikes .you inspire me especially in my position where everyone tells me you know you are african and all pilots are white (wazungu). your reactions enlighten me thanks alot KELSEY

[@Yokovich_]

Great timing 74, just sat on the toilet. Now I’ve got some good content for the ride.

[@djbeezy]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@74gear]

well hope you can complete your mission in 21 minutes

[@djbeezy]

@@74gear Right?! Ha ha ha!!!!!

[@coolpad9111]

Same here

[@dungareekogi2442]

My GI doctor will tell you. You need to vacate and vacate the area quickly; it's not a good idea to linger.

[@wh8787]

The most alarming landing I've ever experienced was landing in a thunderstorm. It was on one of those fairly compact twin engine air bus short hall airliners and we'd had to take off with thunderstorms across Europe. I'm not really sure why we didn't divert, maybe there simply weren't better options but coming down I think the plane may have been struck by lightning, additionally, it's the only time I've seen the cabin crew stop smiling and chatting during landing and just sit, totally stony faced in their seats just staring dead ahead. The runway was also inches deep in water and the airport exit tunnel was do badly flooded cars couldn't get in or out so we had to walk out of the airport.