$799 Gravel Bike... $1000 of Kinda Dumb Upgrades |TT S1E6|

[@bebopman5]

5:42, I’m glad to know we all have the same excited face when upgrading parts on our bikes 😂

[@Spindatt]

great minds think alike

[@remypascal4872]

@@Spindatt DMN, someone bought these frames in Italy out some years ago. Since not to buy anymore in Europe. And now they do appear in the US? Is producing on their own/ reproduction no option...?

[@jacobgamble3792]

Thanks, I always enjoy your videos!

[@Spindatt]

Thanks so much Jacob!

[@larshardhaus1]

Ordered this bike yesterday and has been a bit worried about the terrain it can handle, but your excellent little ripper montage has gotten me all stoked! Wheels and tires are definitely going to be my first upgrades.

[@vmxd]

it can handle blue trails with "baby heads" rocks just fine. But I use it for road\mellow gravel. for rocky trails I ride my mtb :)

[@AP3X_07]

Do you mind me asking for your height / inseam measurement? I’m 5’9.5” / 32” inseam , and cannot decide for the life of me if I should order a M or L ambition. Nervous the M might be too low of stack compared to the L. Also is the L a good for for you? Just looking for overall sizing rec’s. Thanks!

[@a2cool4u02]

I've bought several Poseidon bikes. They are awesome. And for minimal extra for upgraded cables, pads, and seat you get an awesome entry level bike that won't kill you and will last for years.

[@acsottile]

Thanks!

[@Spindatt]

Thanks so much Andrew!

[@ManicTrailBanter]

She’s a Beaut man, very aesthetically pleasing! I actually live down the street from ENVE headquarters, even applied for a position with them but haven’t heard back yet haha. Cheers!

[@Grrg]

These brutally honest videos are my favorite

[@Spindatt]

lol i like making them

[@CoolDRMONEY2002]

This bike rules

[@Spindatt]

YOU RULE. Thank you very much for the support!

[@mitmon_8538]

I cackled at 3:06. Never heard that audio clip used for a bike trick before. Hilarious!

[@Spindatt]

lol I had to use it to remind myself how silly setting a camera up to ride past it really is

[@and6239]

Glad I wasn't alone at cracking up

[@danielspicer4938]

Seems like a prime candidate for the wheels from the Winspace if they’re still kickin around

[@Spindatt]

yeah kicking myself for not having those anymore

[@cooolerhead]

Is THIS a Doug DeMuro reference?

[@Spindatt]

YES! lol I was going to edit him into it, but then realized "you know what, this audience is good enough to know"

[@cooolerhead]

@@Spindatt I thought I caught in a video a few days ago, but I wasn't sure...

[@compasteedee]

I thought the same thing, but then thought, I really don't know how big of a crossover there is between DeMuro and Spindatt, so I convinced myself I was just reading into it. Guess I was wrong...

[@Spindatt]

the cross over is very strong indeed! lol, believe it or not Spindatt is actually a race car channel; I just can't afford them so I play with bikes.

[@austinkassman]

@@Spindatt I would love to hear a 3.5 sec “THIS” is a cannondale…

[@YoungDoug13]

current Poseidon X owner. I've never wanted to buy a redundant bike so badly.

[@Spindatt]

Thank you for the support Doug!! Redundant bikes are my jam. I'll keep getting them no matter how unhealthy it gets hahah

[@gpeaes]

That peel at 7:59 made me quiver. Wish this bike was around when I got my dropbar X...

[@donttouchthisatall]

I like the name "poor decision tuesday" - should be the name of the show going forward 😂

[@Spindatt]

hahaha the two are interchangeable

[@19quiz76]

Takk!

[@budchap]

Beginner here. Would that crankset also work on the redwood? Thanks

[@tillman5529]

Please just dont think the hint was nescessary for me to superthank you lol. anyway… i hope you finally get your well deserved revenue for all the work you put in this channel

[@Spindatt]

Thank you very much for that! I'm hoping the new style of video/editing makes the content a little more consumable for new viewers, so one day the revenue shall roll!

[@briand8862]

Held off on X because of geo. Was going to be looking at getting a Jake but with this release, I think I have my new prime choice in the X Ambition when it's time to purchase.

[@thenormalberries6767]

is it turbo or sc

[@kidb0o]

I’d love to buy Poseidon bikes in Germany… this Maschine is great! Upgradable af ❤

[@Spindatt]

yeah agree! throwing some choice parts on it elevates it so much.

[@treyhorn5645]

It will be my 3rd one. My newest one is only about 6 months old and I've already murdered it my 1st 1 is a year old it's in pieces. I love them I ride hard urban situations.

[@southoftheborderpanda7216]

Can you run a 2x crank ?

[@lucasdettinger6094]

Could you compare this to the redwood some time? Kinda torn between the two.

[@savoirfaire8979]

*I upgraded the Poseidon X brakes with slick cable housing and hybrid hydraulic-mechanical brakes.*

[@stuartpotter4923]

Totally with you.... a stock bike just isn't 'your' bike till you've changed a few things. While wheels and tyres are always the sensible upgrade and, a wise man once said, a change in tyres is the biggest bang for buck upgrade to any bike both in performance AND in visual appearance... I also find that changing out the contact points for ones I like has a big difference in how much the bike feels like 'mine' when I ride it. All in all... job well done. Enjoy!

[@fiatfixie4344]

I never understood the logic of flared drop bars. The whole point of riding in the drops is the aerodynamic stance. Also, you'd think that added bar width off road would make more sense at the brake hoods.

[@timleborgne]

Hahaha I don't know why but I laughed out loud when you skipped over the build and "it's done"...! Great video as ever.

[@Spindatt]

YES! that's the effect I was going for lol. pretty out of left field for me in general haha

[@timleborgne]

@@Spindatt Haha yes;)!

[@alexanderakins5777]

I ducking love your videos. 100% my favorite KZbinr

[@Spindatt]

Thanks so much Alex! means a lot to me, especially being so matter of fact about it!

[@DanKubitz-gp5nv]

Is there a chance for a how to video for changing to a double chainring. Is it worth it on this bike?

[@TheBassman396]

How does one convert the rear axle from QR to a thru axle

[@Spindatt]

you can swap the dropouts

[@Vondoobie]

Do you always get the same size frame from Poseidon?

[@Spindatt]

for the gravel bikes yes! size large

[@hardmtnbiker]

Why does Poseidon use 135 rear drops? As we know that one of the best upgrades is wheel sets. Just curios, am I missing something?

[@dan_lazaro]

4:40 The enve bars marked 44cm are 44 on the drops, and I think 41 or 39 on the hoods. They're my favorite kind of bars but I unfortunately can't afford them, they're perfect in the 40cm size for me which is technically a 35cm bar but because of budgetary constraints I'm stuck with a MOB Sprint handlebar that is 38 top, 40 drop which is a bit off of my preferred 35-6cm wide bars. But hey I can still kinda reach the brakes on 38-40cm drops so it's cool.

[@Spindatt]

yeah that's sort of what I figured. I'd never go searching for these, but having them left over from the Allez it was time to finally put them on a bike. They were just sitting there doing nothing haha

[@spencerlemon2679]

My first road bike was a Poseidon so I clearly have some bias but man am I so happy to see these guys making cooler and cooler entry level bikes. For the 99 percent of us who aren't pros being able to buy something like this and compete in big gravel races is just *chef's kiss*

[@oo0024]

The frames kinda suck they’re not stiff enough way too much flexing on the rear end But they’re perfect if you’re new to cycling good value for money to get you going

[@Spindatt]

What I really like is that they don't penalize the looks and geometry like other companies do for spending less money. I don't care what anyone says, aesthetics is so important. If you like the way a bike looks, you'll be more inclined to ride it.

[@cradleofphill]

Great video dude. It makes me not feel so bad about doing the same thing lol.

[@fentuz]

pink or purple panaracer tyres would look great! (and color matching gear cable housing)

[@Nick-cs5yc]

All hail Poseidon🔱

[@IanLemmon]

My flatbar Redwood arrived today! I'll be doing the same thing shortly. :)

[@IanLemmon]

Well, the same thing as the first 10 seconds.

[@Spindatt]

Sick! Enjoy

[@The2808erik]

Poseidon hooked you up. Sick dude. now you got a race bike.

[@Spindatt]

they are so good to me it's crazy. very excited to race this thing in Ontario

[@jayzworld31]

Awesome video (as usual)!!! Did you see any difference overall from the switch to 40t. I have the original X and was thinking of going up to 40t for a bit more top end.

[@kipcc3918]

Oohhh, An Ambition, I’ve been wanting to ask you this. Hahahaha. My tracklocross is like this 😍

[@Spindatt]

its basically everything I wanted the original X to be! I should try and do a proper review on it.. but I really don't know how to do a review haha

[@kipcc3918]

@@Spindatt the reviews you were doing were subjective and non biased which is why it was worth watching. Any small hints of when the Norton is gonna drop?

[@kristiandawe85]

Now we have a bike we can buy that looks like Eric's raw aluminum specialized, this is super sweet.

[@Spindatt]

no need for bad working paint stripper anymore haha

[@kristiandawe85]

@@Spindatt I just might have to get one of these bikes, but we need the big spindatt sticker like on your specialized 😊

[@andyamos8594]

Now thats the kind of unboxing speed I like!! 🤣

[@Spindatt]

lol so many drawn out artsy unboxing videos all over this platform. time to break the mold! for once haha

[@LoranBriggs]

Considering this bike. I have a really nice second wheelset for my current Montercross bike and I'm kinda tired of switching the wheelset between rides. This bike would make a great permanent home for the nice wheels as I am assuming a bulk of the weight you could shave off the 25 pounds is likely in the wheels.

[@Spindatt]

I'd say wheels and cassette are the biggest culprits of weight for sure. I had my original X down to something like 20.3lbs with some well thought out parts thrown on it. I imagine you could easily get one of these down to 18lbs IF you wanted to spend the money

[@totalglitch]

I am wanting to start racing gravel, should I put that amount towards a Santa Cruz stigmata? I found a new one marked down to 2900otd. I'm 240lbs and I like to do single track and light to heavy gravel. I prefer lifetime warranty and a threaded bottom bracket on bikes as well. Any input would be great thank you for another great video. I'm also trying to decide on this or the redwood as the redwood already has the thru axles and it $300 to upgrade the X ambition

[@Spindatt]

I don't really know much about Santa Cruz models of bikes, but they are certainly quality machines. I'd be the same, searching for a threaded BB and typical standards as well. In my opinion, the Redwood is more of a fun blast around anywhere cruiser where the X is more of a possible race machine.

[@skinheads]

Really good these Poseidons looks. Tracklocross, full black matt that you used to had and this. Shame it's not as easy to get in Europe. What these "slick" brake cables called?

[@compasteedee]

Wow, this bike is a crazy good value. I'm seriously considering a Poseidon as a first dedicated gravel bike. I wonder how much it is after shipping for us Canadians.

[@Spindatt]

getting them to Canada is a little pricey from what I've heard. I wish there was a solution for that

[@NK72TO]

Duty on complete bikes is a drag... But I think you could use a service like shipsy to get it across the border and get the free domestic shipping within the US to that point.

[@oldfrend]

oof too bad. just bought the X myself, and all i had to do was drive 20 minutes to their office in brea to pick it up XD

[@Nameless_by_dna]

Man, I love parts

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Awesome channel and bike video,I love the Poseidon raw Aluminum frame and for fork,it looks like Stainless Steel,this is my favourite Budget gravel bike I've seen.Well done on part's upgrade with over half a lbs saved is pretty good.Safe riding.💯👌🏻✌🏻

[@Spindatt]

Thank you!

[@spencerlucas5835]

i love the fact that the bike comes in a tv box. you wouldn't drop at tv. Nice ploy Poseidon.

[@Spindatt]

yeah Luis said the amount of shipping mishaps dropped like crazy when they put a tv on the box. Genius.

[@spencerlucas5835]

@@Spindatt that's exactly what i thought and indeed it is genius. Others should employ the same tactics then bikes wouldn't come scratched or with bent derailleurs etc etc.

[@oldfrend]

i'm curious if porch piracy went up tho haha.

[@AccessSolucionesVerticales]

If you had to participate in an ultra-cycling, bike-packing race that covers 1,000 km and 16,000 of unevenness over 6 days, which bike would you take? the poseidon x ambition or the reedwood?

[@AccessSolucionesVerticales]

70% asphalt 30% gravel

[@daniels.2720]

Maybe you'll consider doing an 'Over Spender Saturday' edition vlog. Finally finished wrangling the $800 of parts for my $1300 Kona Rove...& that's without a wheel upgrade > Haha on me

[@Spindatt]

HA one of these days I'll do that, but even this video is a little clickbait-y isn't it.. I didn't spend any money at all hahaha

[@maritimezombie7684]

I really wanted a Poseidon but after the import taxes and foolish shipping cost as soon as it crossed that border the cost effectiveness of this brand was over $1500. Poseidon needs to get a warehouse in Canada.

[@Spindatt]

yeah I always think about how much of a barrier that is too

[@alexjohnson6462]

That is pretty brutal. And I thought the U.S. import fees for completed bikes was crazy expensive. I was all set to buy a Mason Exposure gravel bike out of the UK, but the $5400 retail price suddenly ballooned into almost $7000 with import fees (and I'm not even sure if that included shipping). It is kind of disgusting that governments are imposing luxury tax rates for sporting good items related to health and fitness which should be incentivized with low import fee (tax) rates, rather than penalized by high rates, as clearly health and fitness is a social good which governments should be encouraging.... but anyway... getting off topic there.

[@SHWELL11]

I thinki shall try to buy one..

[@johnbaca8692]

Leaving a bike stock is worse than leaving money on the table! That bare black fork is screaming for a "SPINDATT" stickers. Oh, why not put a cool "Norton"face sticker on the head tube. And, put some insulation under that noisy roof. It will be nicer on cold and hot days too.

[@sandeyd.6017]

Tubeless?

[@RoyRagnar]

😂😂 oOoooOOOOoo fancy brand name parts partsssss

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

IMO, the original bar/stem combo was probably the better choice. Looked better too.

[@alexjohnson6462]

Any chance you could weigh that Prowheel crankset and its matching bottom bracket and post the weight in the description or in a reply? I received my Redwood not long ago and a White Industries crankset and BB is on my list of weight shaving upgrades. That is a really pricey upgrade and I am trying to determine how much weight I can realistically shave off. Supposedly, the aluminum fork is by far the heaviest single component on the Redwood (other than the frame), and swapping it to carbon might be even better bang for the buck than a new wheelset. Still deciding, because I like the idea of a super tough fork for some rougher bikepacking I have planned. Wheelset is my third upgrade. I suspect the fork alone accounts for most if the weiggt difference between the Redwood and the lughter X and Ambition models.

[@Spindatt]

I certainly can! will return with numbers later

[@Spindatt]

1050g

[@alexjohnson6462]

Thanks! Ehh... 1050grams (with bottom bracket?) is not as bad as I thought. A White Industries BB and crankset swap would only save me about 280 grams. That's over a half a pound - not bad, but clearly for the money there are better upgrades. 700c Hunt wheelset and a new carbon fork it is, I guess.

[@MrRedPony01]

FRIENDS 👏 I watched the stock ride b-role like 5 times just to hear that banger of a beat.

[@Spindatt]

I'm getting super into the boogie beats here for these videos lately haha

[@MrRedPony01]

@@Spindatt don’t stop. It’s top tier.

[@jjonkie]

6:14 that hurts...

[@mtbkr1030]

How tall are you? Looks like a LG.

[@walcottav]

Wow, what a great machine right outta da box. Kudos Poseidon! Looking forward to that future wheel upgrade Eric. 👩‍🔧 #tinkertuesdays #spindatt #norton #poseidon #reasonablypricedbikes #wellmade #perfectforupgrades

[@Spindatt]

Thanks!

[@drpulpit]

To wear status symbol, or to wear usable symbol, that is the profit-taker's question. Well done, bro.

[@tpawlicki]

Loved this!

[@Spindatt]

Thanks Thomas!

[@davedelarosa319]

Poor decisions Tuesday. Yeah I had that Saturday when I ordered a bar and stem combo for a bike that was perfectly fine. Justification is that I can swap the ones I'm replacing into another bike, to pull that stem to put on another another bike. So yeah sure, three bikes tinkered with one purchase, acceptable; buying new stuff to replace fine stuff, well that's still to be decided.

[@Spindatt]

LOL this actually happened. I moved so many parts around to make this video happen. And my thought process was EXACTLY the same

[@davedelarosa319]

@@Spindatt I almost did the same with the brakes, but I ended up selling the donor bike before I could get that one set in motion.

[@OneMoment581]

Awesome intro..😅😅😅

[@glennpettersson9002]

KDU's maketh the bike.

[@Spindatt]

Thanks so much Glenn! I had to google what KDU means.. and I still don't know haha

[@scotthughes29]

Great bike, looks awesome. Eric…what happened to Ritchey? Are they still a sponsor? Just curious

[@Spindatt]

Thanks Scott! Ritchey wasn't really a sponsor of the channel, they just provided some gear over for a few builds. I REALLY want to put all Ritchey stuff on this thing though hah

[@Techwonderland]

I’ve been waiting for someone to review this! If I were looking for a budget all arounder, and also something to do gravel races races with, is the Ambition or dropbar X better?

[@Spindatt]

I should do a proper "review" but I'm so bad at them haha Personally I like the compact geo of this one better, and the raw aluminum is chefs kiss

[@kevinmccloy185]

The return of the f-ed up(graded) X!

[@Spindatt]

It's like a tear in the timeline has been repaired haha

[@MikeyTiger37]

Man, I would love for this to be available in the UK, look so sick! Any watches know of something similar that's available here?

[@Spindatt]

good question, the shipping can be so cost prohibitive

[@alexjohnson6462]

Well, I would not say it is aesthetically similar, however a really great budget UK gravel bike is the Pipedream A.L.I.C.E. It is more of a bikepacking oriented bike more so than a racier "all road" bike, but I am sure it would work well in either role. That is a bike I was considering ordering, but ended up getting another Poseidon model instead. I think the Pipedream was the better of the two, however, import fees (into the U.S.) were a motivating factor.

[@The442nd]

I actually live in walking distance from Poseidon Bikes 🤔

[@evanoc12345678]

Everything else is just visual 😂 real talk right there

[@Spindatt]

Pretty much every bike decision I make is based on exactly that haha.

[@EriebyCycle]

Jolly good show. Will you be racing this in the gravel event you signed up for?

[@Spindatt]

yeah! it'll be fun to take it down that mud shoot

[@EriebyCycle]

@@Spindatt Cool. Looking forward to that video.

[@johnbrann75]

"I love this bike! What should I change first?" Yep, fall into that miindset every time.

[@Spindatt]

I love changing things hahah

[@poobalu]

I’ve had an X for about 1.5 years and yeah, the wheels are super heavy. Based on the spacing and the cost of the bike, what are some wheels would you recommend?

[@Spindatt]

I’m going to look at Ritchey, maybe some Chinese carbon.

[@bikesandbeyond618]

that is a nice bike for the price point out of the box....

[@micahsherer7189]

The X-Man has returned to the building!!! 💜

[@Spindatt]

It feels right doesn't it! hah

[@SteezeShop]

I

[@Spindatt]

Yay! Thanks. I've been trying to make them better, and flow better than they ever did in the past.

[@dawidk1109]

Frame looks like Romet Aspre A1 😂

[@Spindatt]

Not familiar with that one

[@peterbaskind9872]

Buying a nice-sized spool of compressionless cable? One of the best buying decisions ever. When you break it down, it’s really not expensive at all.

[@Spindatt]

I keep meaning to do this, but end up spending my money on beer and pizza weekly instead HAHA I really should just buy a spool though. you are right.

[@notpablo8369]

The snap isnt audible!!!!!! CLAP SNAP FRIENDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@jani724]

It's such a heartfelt intro with the FRIENDSSSSS!

[@Spindatt]

Need to try harder!

[@jjaeks5518]

0:46 doug demuro vibes haha

[@Spindatt]

THIIIISSS

[@jjaeks5518]

@@Spindatt love it

[@jjaeks5518]

@@Spindatt Why does it work so well tho??

[@kiethpederson7558]

Prices must’ve gone up in four months as it’s 899now

[@rogerhart612]

Nice bike.

[@Spindatt]

thank you!

[@davidpetersen4970]

Panracer tires where are the tires lol

[@jani724]

It looks so much like the og Specialized you've had forever

[@Spindatt]

lol I keep hearing this comparison

[@jani724]

@@Spindatt it's not a bad thing, raw metal with black accents looks 👌

[@oliverdenford6214]

Until you cut the steer tube it's going to look shiete sorry x

[@Spindatt]

Not going to bother cutting, I want the thru axle one

[@riggseroni]

I love everything this bike is about...except that top tube. For some reason the curved shape just sends off too much of a beach cruiser/klunker vibe for my taste and just kills the look for me. End rant. Now everybody can tell me how dumb and wrong I am 😄. Still a big fan of Tinker Tuesdays!!

[@Spindatt]

lol anyone telling you that you are dumb and wrong for having an opinion is just looking for a keyboard argument. Personally; I'm super pumped on the compact geo for my dumb short legs haha!

[@felixop8324]

What was the size process for you all? I'm 6'0" and the quiz in the app is telling me that I should get the XXL.

[@kellymckenzie4865]

See?!?!? This is why early adoption sucks. Glad I supported Poseidon but I really need all of those changes. 😭

[@kimwarner6050]

Wish the bike came in smaller sizes.

[@Spindatt]

keep letting them know!

[@Potz4pizza]

I only make stupid decisions with my bikes 😎

[@Rob-zf2cv]

Yep, $1000 of unnecessary upgrades - but I enjoy watching people was time and money :p

[@grantgridley6095]

That bike looks sexy

[@anielyantra1]

money /viewer driven decisions and 1000$ poorer for it! Even you can be influenced by artificial marketing values that netted you minimal weight loss and no difference in operation. Good Job!

[@Spindatt]

I didn't buy the parts, I had them.

[@ericanthony1457]

You're sponsored by poseidon because your career is drowning

[@Spindatt]

what do you mean?

[@ericanthony1457]

@@Spindatt I insult you because my life sucks

[@Spindatt]

oh, sorry. if it brightens the day a bit: proceed

[@Pshpshpshpshpshpshpsh]

FYI, I put axs on mine and I will say I think they’re still on sale 😆

[@Spindatt]

I mostly just wish I had it laying around so I could have put it on already haha

[@josephsielaff9181]

Thanks!

[@Spindatt]

Thank you so much!