8 Affordable 'Future Classics' Of Car Design!

[@FrankStephensondesign]

I hope you enjoy this weeks episode. I've tried to include some alternative designs that don't immediately spring to mind when making a list of this kind. I'd love to hear what cars you think are in the category of 'Future Classic'! Let me know below which cars you think are worth getting hold of (if you don't mind sharing your tips!). Enjoy! Frank

[@lr_s3102]

The Polestar 1 I think will be a future classic. Just look at it! The Rimac Nevera as well will probably be another classic, as a pioneer of the electric hypercar. If you want an affordable option, the new Honda E will definitely be a classic as well. Edit: The new Defender and new Mazda 3 as well. Maybe for some older options there's the Boxster and maybe the Vauxhall VX220. Another edit: The Toyota GT86 and the MX-5 are definitely going to be classics. Edit 3: The Peugeot RCZ is a really interesting car for not a lot and the newer Scirocco looked really sharp.

[@StarWarsToysTV]

The BMW Z4 for sure!

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

I think the Mercedes S65 coupé will become a future classic. Or the S-Class coupé in general, but paired with an AMG V12? Well it will be extremely desirable. I also think the F80 M3 could become a future classic considering the direction BMW is moving towards at the moment. It's a sporty, light RWD sedan with subtle styling and an amazing Inline-6. The new M3 is just over engineered and way too heavy in my opinion. I definitely agree on the R32 Golf and the E38 BMW

[@964323]

My affordable 8’s are: Coco’s Citroen C3 pluriel , Bangles Fiat Coupe, Peugeot RCZ , Volvo C30, Alfa GT by Bertone, Mercedes W212 coupe, Audi TT mk1, Peugeot 306 cabriolet / 406 coupe by Pinifarina. Seeing any of these on the street nowadays will put a smile on my face. 😊

[@StarWarsToysTV]

I’m a little bias. I have one of Franks designs already. 2001 X5 :)

[@jusuttajah]

Could you make an episode of the cars you've owned?

[@ayushagarwal2103]

Yes sir pls make

[@brunodelanghe2994]

That would be an interesting video!

[@BlahBleeBlahBlah]

Yes please!

[@Wytnucls]

Probably the Z8. :)

[@triwahyuutomo4224]

make it happend

[@justamanchimp]

The s2000 already is a classic. The prices are going through the roof as we speak! And the early 2000s Civic type R's.

[@FrankStephensondesign]

Thankfully, it's still in that phase where, every now and then, one will pop up at an absolute bargain price.

[@justamanchimp]

@@FrankStephensondesign Yeah, I would absolutely love an s2000! Such gorgeous cars

[@MrFlyingPanda]

Same for z3 z4 coupe

[@dragospahontu]

@@FrankStephensondesign probably because it's all rusted out underneath

[@missilegod6522]

Same with Nissan 200sx S13

[@dominicrusho]

Where is the Multipla, Frank? WHERE IS IT?

[@FrankStephensondesign]

6 feet under d, a packaging wonder but with a face and body made for radio.

[@augustinf]

I think it’s so ugly and interresting that it’s got a thing. Kind of like the Aztek

[@carlgeorgtsigakis498]

@@FrankStephensondesign HAHAHAHAHA Made for Radio, man that is hilarious

[@plxton]

@@augustinf I kind of agree, I think there's something to old ugly cars. Also, if something appearded on Top Gear 10+ years ago it's usually risen in value.

[@hegeliansours1312]

@@FrankStephensondesign haha

[@dragospahontu]

Finally cars that normal people can buy 😅

[@alidaraie]

*could

[@dragospahontu]

@@alidaraie lol

[@finalpharoah1]

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah the 1 off $100mil Ferrari's are a little out of my reach

[@Gaphalor]

still too broke for them...

[@HardcoreMotors]

If you mean poor people by "normal".

[@thelastsurviver_]

So glad he mentioned the Alfa Romeo Brera. I instantly loved that car when I was playing NFS Carbon as a kid. It's a timeless design

[@finalpharoah1]

My heart literally skips a beat when I see a Brera on the road

[@TVDota2]

Unfortunately, it has only the design good, and I say it as an alfista, it is too heavy, the engines are not particularly exciting (the only decent engine is the 1750tbi which is quite rare)

[@parismalaspinas2488]

@@TVDota2 Indeed, but it doesn't really matter. I can look at that car all day long in my garage

[@salvofarnia8046]

I have a brera and 159 both carbino black, great cars. Getting old now so sills and subframes need yearly wax injecting, only bilth hamber s50 creeps into weak spots ie rear of the sills.

[@WarrenF]

@@TVDota2 They made JTS versions with the 3.2L V6 engine. I think The spider is a better investment though.

[@sohail9munir]

Audi TT Mk1 is a future classic for sure.

[@christiancolstruplarsen9813]

Was hoping to see this. A bit disappointed that it didn't even get an honorable mention.

[@kahumike]

@@christiancolstruplarsen9813 ditto. It was quite a ground breaking design when it first appeared, and still looks good today. Give it a few years when most of them have been killed due to lack of maintenance and prices will stay to climb.

[@FeroxX_Gosu]

Its already a classic in my eyes.

[@christiancolstruplarsen9813]

@@FeroxX_Gosu good point. I'm really happy to see so much positivity around the Mk1 TT lately. When we got ours 5 years ago it was considered uncool by most people I talked to.

[@egotist11]

call me naive,, mk3 is way prettier

[@F010782]

The Fiat Coupé is also a unique, timeless and beautiful design that deserve to be in a future list.

[@RacingVideoGames]

👍

[@Gaphalor]

i somehow never liked it... Kinda similar design idea but better executed is the Alfa romeo GTV in my opinion!

[@martokisful]

As soon as i read the title think it made it to the list, such a example of early 2000's beauty also a rare Fiat try on sports cars

[@venglomarci]

Id say its not timeless but definitely iconic!

[@marcocerqueira2732]

I don’t think Frank is a big fan of Chris Bangle

[@laylahassomethingtosay]

Glad to see the CR-Z finally getting some love on this site. The design of the dashboard still outclasses some cars 10x its price. I'd also say that while the current Mazda 3 (2019-) isn't yet cheap enough to make this list, it's certainly a future design classic. With its shoulderless flowing silhouette and the funhouse-mirror-esque side panels that bring the surface to life once in motion, Mazda has found a style that is truly unique without being garish or overly aggressive like so many other automakers. The rear light signature is very recognizable and truly fitting for a cute little rounded out city car, while also giving off an air of precise performance. The interior is elegantly and thoughtfully crafted with the controls and infotainment feeling effortlessly integrated into one continuous piece of sculpture. And on top of its excellent design, I think that in 10 years we'll look back on it as Mazda's first step into moving upmarket, giving it historical significance as well. And I'm not just saying all that because I own one...😉

[@SkittyDoogle]

CR-Z owner here. I supercharged mine with a bunch of goodies from Japan. Takes it from an attractive economy hybrid to a genuine hot hatch that looks like nothing else.

[@byst33]

I have a crz and love it! It has the lovely Honda 6 speed and is a cool looking little city car

[@QuinnTheTailor]

Especially the later models have an "electric boost" option. Its not really adding a lot of power, but just the ability that you can press a button and get more power is so exciting to me.

[@Emppu_T.]

I see one, a white one sometimes near where i live. It looks epic.

[@andrewduong2740]

Mazda has killed it consistently with design since at least 2011. So many models that could be future classics, especially the Mazda3 you mentioned. It's only a shame that - according to reviewers at least - it doesn;t handle the way it looks.

[@MrRodBraga]

The new Toyota Yaris GR is already a future classic. Run and buy one now! Trust me. Honor place: new Suzuki “Gmini” ! Might be small and rough, but it will hold its value well!

[@admiralkipper4540]

The only problem with that being how ugly the Yaris is

[@JoeDaeHimself]

@Aryan A exactly. And also a three cylinder electronic infested car. Things that will be nearly impossible to preserve.

[@MrRodBraga]

@Aryan A That’s the point. It’s just a Yaris. Completely understated.

[@azaz911c]

MINI Hatch years 2000-2006. This design captured the spirit of 'Cool Brittania' at the end of the 1990s. It was inspired by, but not a pastiche of the original. It remains a charming design after all this time. It is both at once Brit pop, and Savile Row.

[@CaptainHoratioPugwash]

Jaguar XK8/XKR. Great looking cars in the right colour/specification and they are just stupid cheap right now. You can buy them for under £10,000 all day long which I'm certain won't be the case forever.

[@n.d.4317]

I'd agree for the supercharged coupe, seems like a good deal. Plenty of power and good looking (shared platform with aston martin). However, unlike with aston, no manual were offered with the ford' sourced v8. Reliability is questionable at best. The second gen also had its problem, they went with an alluminium chassis but cheaped out on the subframes that rot away faster than a late 90's mazda

[@svenn6242]

Peugeot RCZ 2014 with design elements from their Le Mans race car. It's affordable, and looks like pretty special. I guess that car will be a future classic. Maybe the most affordable car with double bubble roof or Zagato roof.

[@heiniheinsen5866]

The 1st gen. Audi TT is quite cheap. The nice interior makes it a decent package overall I think.

[@christianfranke6652]

Definitely missed this one his list.

[@alainprevost5374]

was about to post this

[@patrickbateman6885]

@@christianfranke6652 There is a reason its not here because it’s a hairdressers car and he doesn’t respect it.

[@christianfranke6652]

@@patrickbateman6885 maybe, that’s what Clarkson said. Still I think designwise it’s a True 90s Icon. Prove me wrong 😉

[@konstantinosstag6436]

@@patrickbateman6885 This kind of mentality leads nowhere really. The Audi tt is a great car designwise. But it is not rare enough to become highly sought after at this point.

[@peterblumbach6600]

Fiat Coupe, Maserati 3200 GT, 90s Maserati quattroporte, Lancia Thesis, early Saab 900 turbo, Jaguar XK, Aston Martin DB7, the world is full of interesting cars..

[@ArdaiThomasPoker]

literally during this video I went online and searched for the Opel GTC to see what the offers are in my area - this car looks gorgeous, along with Alfa Romeo Brera... and I kept looking around until the video in the background was coming towards the end to the honorable mentions, and I almost dropped a tear when I heard BMW e38 7 series as I own this car and want to sell it... but I just can't, my heart is not that strong.

[@Khan.WrathOf]

C'mon, Frank. You just upped the asking price on S2000's by a quarter at least. Next time just DM us or something 🤣

[@kaksidaksi3455]

this video only has 78k views and most youtube users are under 18 so they cant drive

[@interianesq]

Frank might have been too humble to suggest it, but the R53/50 MINI will always be a classic.

[@luispereira953]

Undoubtely

[@WeMuckAround]

I have an incredible lust for that generation of Mini. Now is the time to buy them too. You can get an average R53 for around £2000, a mint one for £3500 and a project for less than £900

[@IceDree]

Boy oh boy the Z4 Coupe's design was controversial back in the day, but man, it stood the test of time and people came around to it. Spot on with the Z4, E38, S2K & Berrara. I'd add the TT, E46 ZHP & R129 to that list.

[@moneyshifters]

The zhp is the facelift, which is quite ugly

[@TorkildKahrs]

Was surprised the Brera didn't show up un the Alfa video. Glad to see it here.

[@supersecularboypants]

2.5K for a Z4 coupe? Can’t find anything less than 13K in EU.

[@cybair9341]

It is just a trick to make you dream ! ;-)

[@fortheloveofnoise]

@@cybair9341 No, for some weird reason used sports cars are much cheaper in the UK than anywhere else....I have been trying to figure it out but I can't.

[@davidd4531]

@@fortheloveofnoise it’s a closed market where people are wealthy enough to change car often, so the second hand market is saturated. Also, cars rust severely after just a few winters which makes them more expensive to maintain when they’re a few years old, but cheaper to buy as a result.

[@clorox1676]

@@fortheloveofnoise The wheel on "the wrong side" makes the second hand market very small

[@AndyMiron]

@@fortheloveofnoise steering wheel on a wrong side ))

[@matthammer3488]

I'd still add the Audi TT first gen.

[@the80386]

gotta agree

[@kaksidaksi3455]

no lol its so ugly🤮

[@Nathan93Baker]

What cars does Frank have/owned? Also E46 M3 is definitely a future classic.

[@emrefifty5281]

They are already so f*ckin expensive

[@Hopgop1]

Laguna Seca Blue E46 M3 would do me nicely.

[@Freimopp777]

@@Hopgop1 E46 M3 CS Interlagos Blue

[@ZAINALI-xm8ln]

@@Freimopp777 bmw m3 csl wagon conversation in Laguna seca blue truly unique

[@Freimopp777]

@@ZAINALI-xm8ln BMW M3 GTR cabriolet in Phoenix Yellow Metallic

[@bobimoto28]

I really think the Z4M coupe is the most beautiful bimmer ever made ...the Z3M coupe was kinda weird looking but the Z4M is just gorgeous especially with the M3 CSL wheels...i think is one of the most underrated bimmers...u have to see it in real life to appreciate it ...its a rare sight though...the first time i saw it , it was love at first sight

[@dppopov]

Here we go - BMW Z4 E86 owner here... Best toy I have ever bought!

[@Hopgop1]

Wow I've never seen a Citroen C6 before, they are stunning; I bet it's incredibly comfortable with the hydropneumatic suspension too. What's your favourite Renault Clio generation from a design perspective? I've always like the MK2 Renaultsport Clios

[@onelyone6976]

I’ve seen a few C6’s in the wild, they look really good and they are the last big Citroëns. To me they honour the days when flagship Citroëns were synonymous with high class luxury and unmatchable ride quality.

[@fapulousboy3228]

my favourite lio is the mk 4, C6 isn't really for me, style wise, but thats better for the ones who enjoy it.

[@mater753s]

I am VERY suprised seeing C4 on this list, since that is one of the ugliest rear end imo.

[@fapulousboy3228]

@@mater753s do you mean c6 ? With those bendy rear lights, very curvy aesthestic

[@mater753s]

@@fapulousboy3228 yes, C6, sorry - the one featured in this video...

[@onyxcourt]

The alfa and opel look so good. Very sad we didn't get them in NA

[@chrisfreemesser5707]

Seriously...I've never seen a Brera before. Absolutely gorgeous!

[@draftnotion]

The 2001 BMW 740iL is one of the best cars ever produced imho. They got absolutely everything right and dialed with the E38. Such a smooth and linear power delivery with minimal NVH while being roomy and having good handling etc... It's been difficult to reconcile in my mind but the E38 definitely wins out overall vs all of my current vehicles (1996 Volvo 850R, 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16, as well as my first car - a 1988 Volvo 780 Bertone)

[@dragospahontu]

The Z4 is a must have

[@dragospahontu]

@UC93xkBO9rejlWOn8rE5Prnw with some LED's its basically a 2018 car

[@yoshi879]

Had a bmw 130i with the n52b30, so same engine as the z4 coupe. Absolutely brilliant engine, loved to be revved and totally reliable.

[@patrickbateman6885]

@@yoshi879 Any BMW In-line 6, turbo or not turbo are the best motors ever. Mechanics I know will say it’s the best motor ever and the reason I bought my 2011 E90 323i over the F30 is because I just couldn’t get over the fact they had gotten rid of the small inline 6s in place of 4 cylinders. I think I made the right decision as the motor has had no problems and it’s as smooth as Silk and it Revs out beautifully. The rest of the car I’ve also had no issues. Best car I’ve ever owned and mainly because of that Small in-line 6. If I do stop driving it I’ll probably give it to one of my sons and buy a new G20 330i or 340i, Kia Stinger (with the V6), Mercedes C300 or Audi A5/S5/S4.

[@LevPicaresco]

I'm glad you included the Brera, because that is a masterfully designed automobile. Thanks.

[@JoeDaeHimself]

I have a suggestion, Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 V6. Last executive car of Alfa Romeo (probably ever) , really unique line, gorgeous interior, amazing engine.

[@iainbradley2847]

I hadn't got to your response before I penned mine. On the 166 I totally agree especially in the original slimmer fronted design. The interior finish is superb too.

[@JoeDaeHimself]

@@iainbradley2847 indeed the first series is my favourite

[@maxomans]

Completely out of this price range but i think the alfa romeo 4c will become a design classic. A lot of alfa romeo's are just stunning

[@akar2755]

Really agree with the Brera. I've noticed these all the time, just a shame about the lack of performance options.

[@iainbradley2847]

Not quite so. In the UK a limited number were passed to ProDrive to tweak the weight and the handling. and that transformed the car for me. So it's the Brera S to go for to get the best looks and better performance. Mind you I have a real soft spot ( and one in the garage too ) for the much rarer Alfa Spider also built on the same floor pan. Again not fantastic dynamically in standard form compared to the Porsche Boxster but when you look this good who needs speed? Frank what are your thoughts on the much - maligned Alfa 166 probably the most svelte and understated Alfa of the 2000s? Well curated list but there are stunning Jags out there selling for washers at auctionso that's my addition to your excellent list.

[@andiundertaker]

I really love my Laguna 3, especially the Laguna 3 Coupe, incredible design

[@RacingVideoGames]

Agreed, love that coupe!

[@machomb]

Great video as always! I would also mention the Volkswagen Scirocco!

[@einautofan6685]

All BMW Z3/Z4 are future Classics! Also Honda S2000! That's true!👍 I guess, all Lotus cars too!😉

[@S0UNDWAVE]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Lotus Emira.

[@RacingVideoGames]

I think the Fiat Coupé is always massively underrated in these sorts of lists! Definitely deserves to be there 😊. The C6 & Brera are great picks! Fell in love with their unique designs from the moment they were revealed.

[@Pwwh0711]

I had a 1999 20v Turbo; BRG with tan leather as my first car at 17; the insurance for one year cost almost as much as the car...what a car, though! I put it in a ditch (oof that understeer) while showing off to my cousin. Ahhh good times!

[@easydrive3662]

I own a fiat coupe 20vt, what a car, seriously i think its one of the most beautiful looking cars ever produced!

[@markscotchford4159]

I love this Frank. Brilliant. I like the way design is subjective, some we all may agree on, some we won't. That's the beauty of it because when we agree we may shout "yes, nice one" as I did on a few of these. I do think you are a bit out with your values. One is obvious, Porsche always go up. But what I really love about this is you are not falling for stereotypical cliche like say Italian cars. You are not judging by badge but by design and that is what I love about this one. Honda is a great shout and gets on with stuff, they take risks and have great designs. Well recognised. I owned a Brera 2.2 petrol but found it a bit wide (lucky I will never be able to afford a Ferrari) and pretty heavy. It was lovely to look at and had a tobacco and blue interior. I think you should mention the Alfa Romeo GTV 916. Well done though, great video, thank you.

[@alidaraie]

STOP INFLATING THE PRICE OF COOL CARS WE CAN AFFORD

[@carlosgallegorodriguez7281]

I just sold a Z4 3.0 si Coupe. Almost cried when I saw it. It was a great car. After lockdown I wanted freedom and open spaces and wanted to buy a roadster, so I bought a Abarth 124 spider. Mad mad car. Great fun, and painted as the mad car it is. Black and white with red mirrors

[@Boolean21]

I just bought a 500 Abarth a couple of months ago. its got the same engine as your car, it is an absolutely crazy machine. I hope to have a 124 in my garage as well someday.

[@donjuan150]

I own a 2003 Z4 2.5 with sport package convertible....love it! However I have driven the Abarth and I agree it's a great drivers car. Much more raw than and higher revving than the Mazda version. Looks better too!! Congrats!!

[@carlosgallegorodriguez7281]

@@Boolean21 yes! Great fun too!! I cannot believe that you can have such fun with a 1.4 litre engine. The BMW had a fantastic engine as well but it was a much more serious car. It was more of a gran tourer as well. The Abarth is a joke. And everytime you drive one you are smiling. No, you won’t be the fastest, but you’ll be the one having the greatest time. That’s for sure. Hope you enjoy your 500!!!

[@carlosgallegorodriguez7281]

@@donjuan150 BMW straight six is hard to beat. It is one of the all time greats. As a car, the BMW was a much better car. But as a toy, the Abarth is hard to beat. And since I use the car as a weekend toy, I’m enjoying it a lot, even more than the Z4. But, I’ll miss the Z4 of course. Hope you have a great time with yours!

[@donjuan150]

@@carlosgallegorodriguez7281 Sounds perfect! Thank you my friend....

[@basmca1]

Don't get the cheap Brera for 2k. Get a 1.7TBI with 2 wheel drive, those have the best dynamics as it is the lightest version. The 1.7TBI is also very good for (chip)tuning, just a stage 1 brings you to about 240hp.

[@justamanchimp]

Frank, what's your opinion on the 2010 ish VW scirocco? I think they're gorgeous, especially in red.

[@kahumike]

Thanks Frank for this channel, it's helped to understand things that I was kind of aware of but didn't really know how to articulate or understand. I think the Mk1 Audi TT could be a future classic, it was such an unusual and groundbreaking design when it appeared, and still looks good today. I love the Brera, but the original Alfa 156 is also a stunning design, it just needs a bit of tidying around the front to clean it up and a decent set of wheels to set it off nicely. I was slightly surprised by the CR-Z, but it's not a bad design and you've given me a whole new appreciation of how to look at the design.

[@basmca1]

The S2000 is pretty much already a classic and veeeeeery high in demand

[@Meeswijnants]

No way! I’m actually picking up a CR-Z today! For my job as an architect I needed a reliable, affordable and economical daily driver. But I wanted something interesting, relatively unique and quirky, so CR-Z! Thanks Frank for this ‘stamp of approval’!

[@Dzaen2]

I think the VW Scirocco deserved to be in such a list.

[@damilolaakanni]

True, especially the last generation.

[@nikosstories]

Vw Scirocco looks like a bad copy of alfa romeo brera. As the passat cc looks like a bad Mercedes cls.

[@Dzaen2]

@@nikosstories Copy of the brera? what do you mean? In terms of shape? Cause many cars have had that shape, it's not like it belongs to the brera. Apart from that, there are no similarities. Different headlights, fascia, bumper designs.

[@lqr824]

I liked the second-generation. Corrado too. Funny, the gen1 Scirocco had nearly the exact same side-view of the Corrado but the micro-design of the Scirocco put me off, I prefer the Corrado detailling.

[@AlbertBuckinghamEllison]

I had an original Vauxhall/Opel Tigra. Still a beautiful little car, arguably better looking than it's more successful rival, the Puma. It had a stunning square front with angry narrow headlights which have clearly inspired the GTC's'. It was one of the last affordable little coupe's of the 2000's. Sadly I was very poor at the time and I got shafted by the seller as it developed multiple problems. so had to get rid of it.

[@DaveP668]

There's one car I have owned which ended production about 16 years ago, yet it still looks fresh and I'd have a good one in my garage. The original Audi A2. All aluminium, no need to lift the bonnet, very roomy interior, yet compact enough to park anywhere. If had the garage I would also happily drop £10k on the 10 year old Outback 3.6 currently for sale at my local Subaru dealer.

[@lqr824]

At the time it actually had the highest average buyer income of all Audis. My dream garage was 10 different cars, and included the original A2 for runs to the train station or to pick up milk. From memory it was an F430 spider manual (got it), 911, E39M5 (had two). Date car: Eagle E-type. Tuner car: MkIV Supra (had one). Supercar: McLaren F1. Track day: Ariel Atom or Caterham 260CSR. Milk run: A2. Schlepping and snowy conditions: old Land Cruiser or Defender, never wash it. Museum car: Alfa Carabo (for looks) and Rekordwagen (performance).

[@Challenger160]

Wow I'm so glad that you've mentioned the Astra GTC VXR! Absolutely love the look of that car with its connecting lines around the car and the raw power to back it up. It feels like such an under appreciated car design wise.

[@dragospahontu]

1:08 or an endless money pit

[@johnregan4228]

I actually had a CR-Z. The car was pretty good in almost every way, except……..it simply couldn’t get out of its own way. If it had ANY power, it would be an instant classic, IMHO.

[@red00eye]

Exactly.

[@ronochow]

Loved the look of it, but as many have complained, it didn't have much grunt

[@somevids4187]

I was in high school when it first came out and I was in love with the car. The CR-Z with the Mugen kit...just right. Bisimoto tuning with the turbos and stuff got it up to 500hp, but at least 200 hp would've matched the looks and weight. Now I think I would just spend my money on a Hilux or something utilitarian but damn if it wasn't an underrated car...the hybrid system probably made some people also look somewhere else.

[@MdvK13979]

Hi Frank! Chuffed I am that you mention the Brera! I own the V6 version and am not disappointed with the performance at all. Its four wheel drive system keeps it glued to the road surface and makes it a tremendous joy to drive, especially on mountainous roads. Love it to bits and intend to keep it as long as I can! Beware of timing chain issues though ;) Cheers!

[@lightningchin1980]

I think the r230 sl mercedes, especially the sl600 with the v12 will be a future classic. Also the first generation mercedes cls. Such a unique boat tail design.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Why are used sports cars cheaper in England than any other country?

[@120M]

They all have stearwheel on the wrong side.

[@1maico1]

@@120M @Same side as Japan, India, Australia etc.

[@Maxmulham]

Used cars overall are really cheap cause insurance and registration is brutal.

[@tbmada]

The Audi A2, underrated but if you take a closer look, it ticks all the boxes.

[@albertorodriguezfernandez5956]

100%, the A2 is a masterpiece

[@alexandercarabitses8081]

Man, the US has really missed out on some great European cars over the years.

[@chrisfreemesser5707]

Seriously....they got cars like the Brera and we got the Pontiac Aztek? SMH :(

[@iainbradley2847]

Yes but look what you gifted us in Europe - SUVs! Not sure thanks are really in order after all. Keep the flag flying for class wheels A.

[@UPnDOWN]

Quite happy with my C6, seeing as I only paid £750 for it! Two years down the line, values on them have dropped further, though I can't see how they'll drop much more. They only made 23,000 of them. The number surviving in the UK is in the hundreds, and less than a thousand ever found homes here. I love it, it feels so special.

[@huskidusk]

Alfa Romeo should build a Brera with performance that matches the look

[@michaelsiegel9658]

There are supercharger kits for the V6. Together with the Q4 awd this is a very nice GT. Or just tune up the Tbi, this would be the more sporty option.

[@FabioTWK]

Lol, Z4 coupe for 2500 and M coupe for 10? That’s funny. 😂

[@MartinKusimo]

Yes, there was just something about that Brera! Mean and sexy embodied in a single body. My big bro got me into Alfas haha, he had a high spec Alfa 156 at one point 👌🏾

[@MrPotato16]

I loved the CR-Z when it came out and I still love it. Such a cool little car. If it had more power and a little more space I would own one

[@octocat76]

I Think the 2016 Toyota Aygo could become a classic.

[@misternordberg3675]

I want to go to the place where you can buy any of these cars for Frank's target price. Some of the acquisition prices are literally 10 times lower than what people are actually asking.

[@davidsherley2652]

Agreed - the prices Frank mentions seem low to me also. I’m a Porsche guy, so I’m more current on those prices. I think 997 in the US are more in the high $30K to mid $40K range.

[@jeremystig98]

I was on holiday in Italy as a 12 year old and when i saw a Brera i couldnt even believe it excisted. It's amazing in Person.

[@basmca1]

The Brera is such a great looking car, i never understood why the sold so poorly.

[@JoeDaeHimself]

Bad timing, an unloved V6, a bit too heavy.

[@hugopacheco3575]

I read about some people complaining that it was like a boat. Very heavy. Not very fun to drive, it seems.

[@basmca1]

@@JoeDaeHimself if only it came with the 3.7L version of the Busso that they created just before it came out...

[@DEW1TT18]

VW Scirocco for me, it looks like how i imagine the sketches for the Golf GTI looked like, with the exagerated swooping roof line, and that foward heavy stance, makes it look like a sprinter at the blocks for me. Great looking thing.

[@ashkan.arabim]

Yes! And it is SUCH a shame it didn't come to the US. The facelift was a downgrade though.

[@PaulTC777]

But at the end of the day it stills drive like a normal Golf, bland.

[@DEW1TT18]

@@PaulTC777 the brera mentioned in the video drives famously slow and bad compared to the competition, and aren't the early golfs classics?

[@anttitirri5818]

I had previously peugeot 406 coupe. Now I have Z4 e85 roadster. I just love the design of both of these

[@MarshallHurtado]

I own a 6 speed CR-Z, made my whole day

[@K0Kaz]

I'm not sure about the Astra, but I think the rest are pretty spot on. Even the Z4, which stylistically I dislike, has matured nicely, and having had the opportunity to take a M one on track in anger, they drive great. Prices are a completely different story here in the US where these are all 2x, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less of a value from this standpoint, I suppose.

[@Jams56]

Thoughts on the 2012 Maserati granturismo and quattroporte? One of the most beautiful Italian cars in my opinion

[@audiquattros6]

I think the 5th generation quattroporte is the most beautiful sedan ever designed

[@odyn1c]

I kinda missed the Audi TT Mk1

[@curtrossel610]

Very happy to see my car on this list!! Crz’s never get enough love. As soon as I laid eyes on it I knew it’s potential was through the roof.

[@marcelhandsome6042]

I think the Fiat Punto MKI and Fiat Uno by Giugiaro were great designs but very scarce in the 2nd market especially in the UK. Lancia Thesis and Lancia Kappa like the Citroen C6 very rare and quirky but hugely desirable! The Chrysler Ypsilon based on Lancia Ypsilon would be on my shortlist too.

[@jorgeg162]

That Alfa Brera is absolutly stunning! ❤️

[@farukibisevic6886]

Can you do a RIMAC Nevera design review please. I am really interested on your view on such a successful young company :D

[@ItsTheNada]

The 2000 Audi S4 prices remained stagnant for a long time even though they’ve been cult classics for a while. Recently they’ve skyrocketed. Timeless design, fun driving experience and an endlessly tunable engine have made people forget how difficult they are to work on.

[@wardmontgomery9259]

In America I seldom see a Citroen, Vauxhall, Opel or Alfa Romeo - many of these have classic styling and performance. I do see many BMWs, Jaguars, and Chevrolet Corvettes- maybe you could include a Jaguar or Corvette in your videos ?

[@lord7739]

How about VW Scirocco? I find it very difficult to choose from Scirocco and Brera, both are brilliant.

[@DrittAdrAtta]

Forgive the joke, but if you find it hard to choose, then there must be something wrong with your eyes😉

[@howardlake6178]

I thought of 3 more. Fiat Barchetta. Renault Avantime (although I believe only 250 were ever bought in the UK so hard to find one). And the Fiat Coupe. What do you think? 😀

[@paulcfyeung]

No Mk1 Audi TT??? Surely one of the most iconic car design in the 90s/00s?

[@johanwejedaldesign]

Great episode! Btw, I was working at GM Europe Design in Rüsselsheim while the Opel/Vauxhall Astra GTC was designed (as 3D-modeler and I did wheels and logos for the Astra "J"). I can tell you that at first it had an even more extremely raked windshield, almost like a Lamborghini Gallardo(!). Always loved this car, even if it got a bit more sensible as production model... Also - I have always had a craving to own a Citroën C6 sometime, even though I don´t really need such a big car and prefer hot hatches. Coolest luxury sedan ever.

[@gaurav6002]

Waiting for your take on the lotus emira

[@mamaliakaro9890]

But what about w140, it is not my favourite Mercedes, but w140 very popular. What do you think?

[@mr.carguy654]

As someone who spends a lot of time on autotraider I can confidently recommend the 93 Saab as a future classic! Also any ford escort is gonna be worth a lot and I have a feeling that Citroen's quirky c3 pluriel will soon increase in value too! The latter is probably what I'd personally buy on a tight budget! They start at around £700!

[@timonbotha476]

Great video as always, I would add the Fiat Coupe to the list; Its a unique design that really stands out. Glad the C6 got a mention as well.

[@DrBoobY2K]

There are quite a few "ugly" car designs, such as the Fiat Multipla, that I feel have huge amounts of potential but have made a few mistakes and needed one or two significant changes to make them design classics. I'd very much enjoy a series on cars that are "Nearly Classics" obviously starting with the multipla, or perhaps the Chrysler Crossfire. Thanks for the insights

[@mgtf-supercar9358]

Hi Frank. MG TF is a good idea for the category of "Future Classic". I have such a model and I recommend it.

[@MrMinecrafter720]

Amazing to see the Brera on this list! I own a 159 right now, same front end as the Brera. Beautiful beautiful cars 😍

[@rootmebb]

I wanted to buy CR-Z but i bough Peugeot 206 xD (for fuel efficiency reason)

[@MiniMii550]

I would say the first gen Volvo S40 from 1995-2004 (especially the facelift). Everyone gives credit to the V40 estate (which is understandable, the thing is beautiful) but I feel the sedan is underrated. It's just such a beautifully clean design with the proportions done right, very well balanced. My sister had one, it was so comfortable and that 1.8 turbo 4 cylinder had a nice engine note to it and was remarkably fuel efficient. Oh yeah and the seat warmer was the best I've ever used in any car.

[@mgt864]

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the BMW 2010 135i as I have recently purchased one when I was looking for a Z4. I have instantly fallen in love with this car and don't think there is anything you could say to change my mind but I would still like to hear what you have to say that may make me more humble about my BMW. Thanks, Michael T

[@Rafoo4397]

The Z4 M Coupe will definitely be a classic I believe. The lines are amazing from a design standpoint, and the M treatment with the S54 andthe CSL suspension, brakes and steering rack make it the perfect sports car. Oh and it is rare too !

[@shahinchegini9953]

Totally agree with you, funnily enough there are roughly the same amount as Z4m coupes out there as Z4 3.0si manual

[@spinister4357]

Ferrari 458 Itaila my favorite future-classic design 🏎

[@mamaliakaro9890]

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[@gilmacarico]

The Citroen C6 it's not an obvious choice at all, but it has a timeless beauty from the first day. And it looks even better in close real contact.

[@DrittAdrAtta]

Exactly!

[@FastlifeTodd]

I feel like the Volvo C30 should be in this list . What’s your thoughts from a design standpoint?

[@aomoussynonymous8712]

Edward Cullen's car (Robert Pattinson) in Twilight 1.

[@PaulSpades]

I really like the Megane 2nd gen. That back end was really interesting when it launched and I think it still looks good today. The 2nd gen Laguna is also a pretty sedan with great proportions and a hatchback. And another french car - the 406 Coupe - styled and built by Pininfarina if I remember corectly. For fast cars: The Alfa Romeo 147 GTA (with the v6). Actually all Alfas with the GTA badge are pretty damn quick (including the Brera). The Seat Leon (2nd gen) FR or Cupra, if you can find one in decent shape. (Designed by Walter de Silva after he jumped ship from Alfa Romeo, I like most of his cars before Audi and VW).

[@channel_abc123_]

Citroën is so underrated

[@MrFlyingPanda]

C4 coupé looks better than crz imo

[@fb1000000]

Their quality is awful

[@channel_abc123_]

@@fb1000000 Be more specific they exist for 100 years or so

[@djdewaal289]

@@fb1000000 On some cars in certain specific time periods, but on average they are not too bad imo

[@cybair9341]

It has the best wheel design of all cars of the video.

[@chiquislife9301]

I have 2 cars that I love: a Lexus Ls 400 1996 and a Lexus Ls 430 2003. Some of my dream cars will be = 1.- Toyota Century 2.- Rolls-Royce Ghost 3.- Rolls-Royce Dawn 4.- Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz 1959. 5.- Lincoln continental cabrio 1963. 6.- Chrysler Imperial 7.- Fiat 500 Riva cabrio automatic. Etc