8-BALL NAIL-BITER | Shane Van Boening vs Dennis Orcollo | 2018 US Open 8-Ball Championship

2018 US Open 8-Ball Championship
July 21-24, 2018
Griff's, Las Vegas, NV
Produced by CSI Media, a division of CueSports International. www.playcsipool.com
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[@shortydancer]

Just finished a final exam. Beer in hand. Got this on my big screen TV. Life is good.

[@seanfinnerty7338]

legendary

[@pacosalomon9523]

Congrats hope you did good

[@casper14301]

The best feeling

[@-Keyboard-Warrior.]

How big the screen can be... This is just 1080p 😂

[@funkgremlin2765]

Same here but whiskey 😂

[@drummingsamir]

1:25:21 I died George: Desperation breeds creativity. Freddy: It also breeds bad late-night choices, but that has nothing to do with this.

[@shortydancer]

Thank you for making this video available.

[@krautmasterr9719]

Great match. Thx for uploading actual HD.

[@rogerharris231]

I've watched dozens of CSI pool videos over the years, and although the general production values have gone up, I don't think I've ever seen one with decent audio. In case no one ever mentioned it, the problem is that if you turn the volume up enough to understand what's being said, the ads will blow out your ears. I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism, but this seems like a problem that's very easy to fix: Just please pay attention to your audio levels.

[@johnstorton]

Ad blockers fix the problem, too.

[@nzbradmorgan]

Agree. Ad blockers are more of a band-aid fix. Much better to get everything right at the source instead.

[@marshalcraft]

@@nzbradmorgan Roger don't knock the audio quality itself, it's very good, it's just a simply matter that the level is a bit low for some reason. Not that big of a deal, but true that it can make the ad's seem very loud.

[@kenfranks1714]

Roger, think AdBlock.

[@rickvassell8349]

Go to end, press circular play again. No more ads.

[@physicsguybrian]

When I watch snooker, the commentary is sparse, no unnesessary talking, and comments are spot on accurate and relevant. These guys never stop talking. It's called commentary, not non-stop jabbering. Guys! Let the game speak for itself! Please!

[@paleshelter4002]

some of those snooker matches from the 80's, are commentated with beauty

[@caseysrodeo14]

Great Match!!! I was there.....Class act for both Players....

[@phillipwilliams2249]

I think we are clear that you were magnificent enough to be there casey as youve told us twice, long as youre here let me ask you..DO YOU HAVE A LIFE ? now do all of us a favor and shutup.

[@caseysrodeo14]

@@phillipwilliams2249 Thank you for your response, I didn't realize I had commented twice on this video. My mistake. In adding though I do have a life and realistically don't think you need to worry about if I do or don't. We all have our passions, I do apologize for you that it seems you must be a little put out because you were not there. Life is a luxury by choice, some of us have more freedom than others to experience things hands on. Since your wanting a favor on being quiet, please come help me be quiet?

[@phillipwilliams2249]

@@caseysrodeo14 with a name like casey rodeo, why dont you just shutup....boy.

[@doubledre31]

The last rack is one of the best 8 ball run outs I've ever seen

[@lancevaldez2381]

The new

[@lancevaldez2381]

Using the most

[@jasonvancleve8140]

Jeez, Dennis took five minutes and twenty-six seconds planning his run, and then he missed his opening shot! No wonder Shane hates playing that guy.

[@mikehopkins7384]

This is why I prefer watching when I can skip ahead 30 sec at a time

[@lewisplayspool]

Begins at 1:39:10, shot at 1:44:31

[@edwardlack2578]

this is where shot clocks suddenly become an amazing incentive to play a shot.

[@pope9349]

Dennis is dogshit,dude is as interesting to watch as paint dry.

[@fubufb420]

I just love how bored.... Ahem... I mean... I just love how "humble and stoic" pool players are during intros 😂😂

[@mikemcnamara3750]

this guy said jayson shaw breaks harder than shane van boening, are you thinking before you speak pal or just saying whatever comes to mind

[@danrion8839]

If I take so much time like Dennis in pool 🎱 then I will be a world champion too.

[@kirschaaron]

That was the most awkward handshake I’ve ever seen

[@maxvirtus2614]

I came for this lolol

[@SuperGouache]

That's the best tournament in world, I LOVE IT. The best comentatores best cameras everything is on point

[@BaconFrisbee]

Shane miscued a couple times in his "Decider" challenge with Earl. It's pretty good. They did 9, 8, and 10 ball races to 30 on a Diamond bar table

[@MrOriuk79]

Where can I find those videos

[@BaconFrisbee]

@@MrOriuk79 POVPOOL

[@adelfamangupag6558]

² was wê⅔w22😊

[@southsidejonny9997]

My 94 yr. old Gram (arthritic) couldn't shoot slower... indecision is infectious.

[@MrDirtyVirus]

?????????????????????????????

[@gtrmusic69]

The endless guessing by the announcers is simply too much. They're not commentating. They're just guessing balls and routs.

[@R1GGLER]

Exactly. It really detracts from the match. They don't need to speak the entire time, there can be some silence. Tell stories about the players or whatever instead of constantly guessing and being wrong most of the time. I've learned with these two to mute them and listen to music while watching.

[@jasonvancleve8140]

@@R1GGLER I listen to podcasts, uses a completely different part of my brain. Plus I watch at double speed (especially with Dennis), so I wouldn't understand much anyway.

[@jumperstartful]

@@jasonvancleve8140 I turn off the volume and fast forward through Dennis, same with Pagulayan.

[@larrycoffey4534]

Do you think Dennis's backer bet on svb and told Dennis to dump? It just has a shady feel. My glass is half empty though

[@mescellaneous]

shane barely cheats the pocket anymore. i like to think chinese 8 ball has a good influence on his overall game. also, shane almost always played the optimistic shot. losing games because he is learning on the job and perfecting his craft :P

[@Floridamanfresh111]

Well said. Why do they use the magic rack opposed to a triangle?

[@mescellaneous]

@@Floridamanfresh111 probably because it avoids the conversation of cheating by leaving gaps in the rack, if you used the triangle.

[@pistrico2215]

Tutto troppo facile

[@BakerNo.9]

Just goes to show you why shot clocks are important in tournaments…

[@ramswaminathan5463]

I was in Rio. Did not see this match.

[@80royce68]

does anybody know what kind of pool balls they are using?

[@ERDG516]

What’s Dennis body language during the presentation?

[@SergeyPetrov1972]

Dennis as fast as a wind

[@jeromegoodwin3848]

There was an example why I hate those racks,

[@killedbycali]

41:37 Some random drunk chick that probably spilled a drink on the table: "Ohh shit haha"

[@hammerlane3871]

What shaft differs svb use to break, anybody know? Need a new shaft but don't know what to get for a breaker.

[@TheBilliardCorner]

Looks like he's just using his playing cue with a Cuetec Cynergy carbon fiber shaft. The Cuetec Cynergy is a playing shaft. If you're looking for a dedicated break cue, Cuetec also just came out with a break cue called the "Breach".

[@arron19]

Rack 3 and 4 Dennis broke both racks??

[@maxvirtus2614]

2:18 oof

[@Fomendiz]

Anyone can explain me where's the finals videos of this competition? Who was the winner of 2018 us 8-ball?

[@vancemagee9280]

Fomen zein Shane won I believe

[@caseysrodeo14]

Shane...

[@jrbr549]

Could the opponent call a foul if you grab the balls to rack when the cue ball is still moving? And if you touch a ball with the magic rack?

[@liveandlearn901]

I don’t know, but this doesn’t seem like the type of sport where players would do that. They understand that it’s just what you do, if you know what I mean.

[@CHADKANDARIS]

magic rack is .14mm thick

[@5153flash]

I have noticed after watching the Las Vegas open,,and other tournys,that these Diamond tables are giving up allot of shots to the corners where the ball hits the rail early. Sometimes a diamond up the rail. Im shocked that some of these shots are going in the hole. Just sayin

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

Depends on how it’s shot those shots will roll tight to the rail so they work

[@franciscodiogo4512]

Yep that game ante easy I'm saying from experiencing alot of looses on 8 ball pool and wins to progress focusing on the game making the shot potting the 8 ball pool

[@ethanletzer3507]

Is Shane using a REVO shaft in this match??

[@eastorange89]

Its cuetecs carbon fiber shaft

[@scotty193]

I got to the 3rd rack and just switched off with Dennis taking minutes for a relatively easy shot and run out........No wonder they introduced the shot clock in Pool its painful viewing.

[@danielwells774]

God why does Dennis have to take so long to make a move?

[@johnstorton]

Thank God for the arrow keys on the keyboard, and/or the time slider on the video!

[@jaroslavcech225]

Dont you have to put the cue ball on the line after a scratch upon the break?

[@NoLimitBamBam]

In bar rules. They're playing BCA rules so a foul is ball-in-hand to the opponent. Ball-in-hand it the ultimate freedom. You can put the ball anywhere you want on the table.

[@kenfranks1714]

Jaroslav, answer: NO. Anywhere in the "kitchen".

[@theresachaplin9770]

Don't like the distorted table view. Silly

[@anon2414]

57:46 never even occurred to me to put chalk on my middle finger. I only put it on my index and thumb...wow gonna try that

[@jeromegoodwin3848]

If a hair bothers players on the table why doesn't these plastic flat racks?

[@jeromegoodwin3848]

What is wrong with a regular rack?These racks interfere with the play.

[@URAsoreloser1]

Regular racks do not give a consistently tight rack every time. And that interferes with play a lot more than anything.

[@FortressOne]

Break without a kiss at 13:49

[@Trollet532]

Thats very satisfying

[@rubberducky1853]

Lag at 2:22

[@linc12910]

Subraan mani sa ka sigurista si Dennis oi, pinugngan na ang tira.

[@koykoymaxx]

Just to let every body know, in the Philippines we don't play 8 ball, or maybe almost to none so to speak🙂

[@NoLaCountryFan1969]

did you say boomberg or bloomberg?

[@reygonzalez7483]

Can they plz use the regular color of billiard balls 🤦‍♂️

[@mannylugo6050]

Rey Gonzalez lol is a diamond set up and diamond tables come with cyclops balls but it would be nice with some aramith tv balls

[@jeromegoodwin3848]

It all depends on how much they bet on the spread.

[@beefonweckeastside3323]

The time these guys are allowed between shots is ridiculous I was never a fan of a shot clock but these guys need some somebody to control them

[@internetcrap7]

a lot of pride and little bit of money are on the line. Not their fault they want to take their time. Like they say, measure twice, cut once.

[@darkangealyt4050]

Why did Shane win on 24:00 without throwing the black ball into a hole?

[@red1349]

easy shot. SVB wouldn't have missed so Dennis just went up to rack and didn't make him shoot.

[@jumperstartful]

Dennis knew it was an easy shot for Shane so he gave it to him.

[@andrewpetrowich7177]

I started watching this and 2 racks in I thought o wow this has got to be a race to like 30 with how much time is on this video. Then I realized it said race to 8 and I thought what in the world happened and the it started happening. Uncharacteristic poor patterns and even more so poor shots by both these guys. They both had stretches where they couldn’t get out. Overall it was a great match but it goes to show you even the best in the world don’t have it everyday but they fight to get threw it and that’s what makes them great

[@bboobbee1965]

If it isn't "Last Pocket Eight Ball" , its not that hard to get out....lol.

[@apexspr10]

Robert Longo yo mommas not that hard to get out

[@edwardfawcett7550]

Great match, but these guys are why there is a mute button!!

[@wolfwoodpriest2384]

1:00:50 Totally unrelated but does somebody recognize the song? It's a very faint sound of someone whisting but I'm certain I've listened it before. Can't get it out of my head!!!

[@Goose1294]

Peter Bjorn & John - Young Folks

[@phillipwilliams2249]

Freddy and Goerge = Dumb and Dumber

[@jovenniomf4987]

Shane was unlucky in the 11th rack, he did lots of amazing shots there

[@robntaylor]

I can only watch a little of this Dennis takes forever to shoot sometimes

[@MaachoMaan]

I'm pretty certain I heard these guys say that guys like Dechaine and Shaw both break harder than Shane. I must've misunderstood them though, because we're talking about something not even close! Van Boening's consistently in the 30mph category, while Dechaine's mid-upper 20's, and Shaw needs to find himself a break. The only other relevant player breaking up in the 30's (mph) is Bustamante.

[@marshalcraft]

Orcollo's break was not working for him in that match.

[@BaconFrisbee]

That's the only time some of these guys look human. Often it's the difference in the match, especially in rotation games

[@marshalcraft]

Against Shane it matters in 8 ball, cause he has run his side of alternate break.

[@marshalcraft]

And if you get two guys playing perfect 8 ball, then it come down to the lag haha.

[@BaconFrisbee]

@@marshalcraft There's a story about Mosconi, where he was playing straight pool with a dude, won the lag and ran out the set. When asked what he thought of his opponent, he said, "He needs to work on his lag."

[@marshalcraft]

thats a good one, i hate lagging.

[@napochulo]

2:01:10 did he mean to hit the 4? Wouldn't this be a foul?

[@mescellaneous]

open rack... *facepalm*

[@napochulo]

@@mescellaneous A simple combos are allowed on an open rack would do. Not everyone who plays pool is playing at a competitive level to know specific rules like this. I've just never seen it before.

[@renzellesanchez4131]

@@napochulo it's fairly common, this rule is not specific to competitive play, should you make a ball or not in the break, the player who shoots right after the break still has the option to choose his balls, thus hitting any ball while pocketing another is legal.

[@internetcrap7]

​@@renzellesanchez4131 It's not common in amateur play at all. I had zero knowledge of this rule before I just joined a league after many years of playing pool. Another is that many casual players think that after a foul the cue ball needs to be behind the breaking line. There are so many rules in competitive play that don't extend to the casual player rule knowledge. I just learned a brand new one in this video, too. That you are able to call a safety in 8-ball, so should you call a safety and shoot a ball in, it will still be your opponents turn.

[@mahditouaba7699]

cc

[@beefonweckeastside3323]

I cannot watch orcollo play just way too long between shots need to put a shot clock on him this is ridiculous

[@uglykid1981]

Both of them are slow boi...

[@jumperstartful]

Orcollo and Pagulayan are feathers from the same dead chicken.

[@nancyfail160]

WHAT ABOUT A SHOTCLOCK. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wakazaay7824]

23:57 no 8 ball?????????????????????????

[@cristiandanielortizcuellar2990]

in the last match Shane was playing with the non-stripes right? why he at 2:01:46 is hitting a stripe? i thought that was illegal hitting stripes and non-stripes in the same rack? thanks and sorry if the question is plain.

[@exyid8744]

Yes it is a foul to strike your oppents ball first with the cue ball. But shane was shooting stripes the whole time in that game. The shot that you linked was him playing into a "stack" of balls. Although the 5 moved he hit a stripe first.

[@cristiandanielortizcuellar2990]

@@exyid8744 thanks mate by your time.

[@steveclough564]

Holy fucking adds

[@StevenPG72]

Dennis plays so damn slow, they need a 30 second shot clock I know the players have complained before about his super slow play, buy anyway just don't like the man, nice beer gut you have there lol

[@jumperstartful]

Dennis and Pagulayan, they both fell out of the same tree.

[@pope9349]

Dennis looks pregnant LOL,maybe time for him to get in shape .

[@ryanhart668]

You just shouldn't be allowed 5 plus minutes without taking a shot, I don't give a fuck what you are playing for. Unbelievable.

[@fartlighter82]

Dennis must drink a lot. He's got a big gut for a small dude.

[@danielwells774]

He drinks a lot of San Miguel and Tanduay Rum.

[@legalmercenary]

Get rid of the golf announcers

[@randallgibson8619]

My God these commentators can’t call a rack for shit. Have they ever played pool or are they just talking to each other?

[@solarnmore4443]

break from right , very low English bob

[@deerkiller2699]

after watching many of these I came to realize that commentators are pointless. they consistently try to guess what's next and they are almost always wrong. after awhile it started to make me sick to my stomach. as hard as they try they are never going to be able to judge what a player is thinking. most likely why they are commentators and not the guy up on the table.

[@nonilondc3503]

Deer Killer true

[@AlejandroInAustin]

I think they're funny. Plus they make fun of themselves quite often.

[@mannylugo6050]

I think commentators are great for the beginner player. In the end is all preference.

[@jamierice9211]

unless you are on the table its hard to see how the balls are set up. Tiny things can make a big difference to if you take a shot on or not. All players think differently even out of the 100 players they would all come up with their own way of playing a rack. And again you can't see the exact positions of the balls and if you think a ball is half an inch from where it is, changes the whole game. And sometimes the commentators are right about what the better shot is and a player makes a worse shot. I think you are generalizing saying they never get right and you have a massive conformation bias. Next time you watch a game, rather than thinking about every time they get it wrong, think about every time they get it right. might see a big difference in how you see things.

[@larrycoffey8076]

i know everything...... no im pretty sure i know more...... are you kidding, i know the most

[@toma-iu9zj]

the magic causes to much dismay. it should be taken off right after the break.

[@alpe6228]

Is Denis Pregnant? lol

[@HighP0ints]

......

[@phillipwilliams2249]

ON THE TOPIC OF SHOULD SLOP BE ALLOWED ? Well lets see what do you gain and what do you lose. The advocates say it adds excitement to the game.. such a statement reminds me of when ignorant people clap when they see a ball slop in, granted theirs shots that werent actually slopped in and the ones that were slopped in sometimes to the unknowing eye appeared to be intentional, but the skilled player and the knowledgeable watcher USUALLY can tell the differance, as far as the added excitement, personally i never get excited over shit in balls..at least not since i had 1 month experiance in game...say when i was 13 yrs old. NOW imagine the players are hill hill for state championship... one player shits in 3 ball then proceeds to run out the easy remaining rack..whereas without the shit the opponent would have run the easy rack..what we gained in some eyes ( the ignorant few) was a bit of excitement. What the opponent lost was his bid for title, that he may have practiced for twice as hard as the lucky ass. What the spectators lost was the answer to the question who is the states champion, simply put absolutely no one knows..they can guess at best...I say the dubious excitement to the knowing is to high a price to pay....Now thats just one shit shot that could have caused this travesty of justice..in reality ive seen numerous shit shots in a few minutes, like we all have, and thats just for state title...how much more terrible for world title, And for the idiot that says its an even chance for both players to slop balls in, i say such an ignorant person is not from this planet, because everyone knows some people are luckier than others on any given day, For the retard that says well it wouldnt be 9 ball without slop, many many games and sports progress thru rule changes to better the event. I say, dont change the rule on any game unless it could change the outcome in an unfair way..say costing player or team the most important thing they have trained for for years and years...Or lets forget players/teams of countries and there hard work and let the few ignorant get some false excitement. Now we all realize ever since we were in 1st grade theres going to be some crybabies who will lay on the floor, kicking their feet, wailing etc. If the more skilled, trained or superior individual has the advantage every time. so the unskilled crybaby will lobby the teacher or parent or principle to allow in a measure of luck. then the namby pamby person of position will say..yeh lets make it more even..as if thats more important than finding the most deserving, i love pool but this one point im so tired of debating for the last twenty years..im ready to stop watching pool and instead just watch two unskilled morons flip a coin over and over to see who,s the best at flipping....how exciting

[@ginonicolosogagliardi5384]

too many errors for that level

[@13sephadex]

The commentary is just crazy bad. Painful.

[@davelarson7628]

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[@Sly253]

These announcers are so annoying get a room both of you

[@andrewverrett568]

These commentators are so horrible

[@robertjr1254]

Commentary sucks, they never know what the guy is gonna shoot lol