8 Horror Movie Fan Theories That Make The Films Even Creepier

[@MelodicQuest]

The aliens being demons makes a lot of sense. The aliens seemed pretty out-of-place in the not-so subtle religious tone of the movie. Also, any beings capable of space travel would not choose to invade a planet that consists of 70% toxic substance.

[@DonCapiche]

It wasn't spouse to be a religion vs. science movie, it was just very poorly done.They **ARE** aliens, the question your suppose to ask is weather the existence of aliens matters in a religious sense. They just wrote themselves into a corner at the end and tried to retro fit it. #mnightshamalan

[@NekoMouser]

I don't think it was "supposed" to be anything of the kind. And why are you so sure they *are* aliens?

[@Sky-si1iv]

But in the movie, they talk about birds mysteriously falling from the sky. This disproves they're demons because A: they're aliens flying around in spaceships and B: it does in fact show alien software. I've heard another theory that the aliens were desperate so they attacked anyway and even left in a big hurry (it said they left some of their wounded behind); or, simply, they'd never encountered water before. They're aliens, after all.

[@MelodicQuest]

Jenna Chase There were weeks of sightings. Meaning they had sent scouts to learn the lay of the land, as you would ahead of planning an attack. In short, still bad movie logic.

[@stin-dog172]

theres a scene where there watching the news on tv and it show ufo in the sky, reporting similar sighting all over the world. there aliens I reckon.

[@BarryAllen-bf1ye]

Billy didn't get released because of Dewey, he got released because Stu (as the killer) called Sidney at Tatum's house and told her Billy wasn't the killer

[@ShadowSora8491]

Plus, even if Dewey had a "thing" for Sidney, he probably got over it quickly, since he took a liking to Gail Weathers really quick.

[@ericsmithhart8509]

You need to get a life

[@calvinscheuerman]

That's not a "fan theory" for Jacob's Ladder, *that's literally just the plot of the movie.* It is supposed to be a twist ending, showing that he died in vietnam, and none of the crazy events of the movie actually happened in the real world; They happened while Tim Robbins' character was dying on the table.

[@theleafflyerteamproduction7978]

Oh, okay makes sense since this are all (well almost all) just hallucinations he is just seeing.

[@OhHelloSugar]

That's what I thought, too, like "That's...literally the plot of the film."

[@MichaelWyattMDW]

See also "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" ... and more recently, the episode of Black Mirror, "Playtest"

[@dmitriblaskowitz2051]

@@Euronymous_Bosch It also has Kurt Russell's son playing the lead role! All around a fantastic episode.

[@0NodMan0]

*_Let us not forget that Childs is one of the few black men (alien monster or not) to make it to end of a horror and/or SciFi movie. That in itself is something that Keith David should be given an award for._*

[@craigs6045]

Fuck off.

[@jimhindell1966]

He was black?

[@grahamburdick]

*How'd you do that*

[@klillym1461]

NodMan dude yes

[@veronicaaccouche1478]

Very true. What to believe? Is he dead or not?

[@truwho82]

Man, the Halloween-Psycho theory is awesome.

[@kiss4jam]

truwho82 it actually makes sense

[@truwho82]

Krystal Santos yeah. I'm going to except it as part of the story lol

[@kaizermengele6669]

truwho82 you shitheads and your bullshit theories, you're the reason why film directors don't disclose the real info

[@truwho82]

K

[@truwho82]

Even though directors encourage open thought, discussion, AND theories. They don't disclose that information because they want you to THINK.

[@Andrew198675564]

I thought that purgatory thing was pretty heavily implied in Jacob's Ladder, not just a theory

[@franciscosanchez7317]

Exactly, but some people still need things to be completely spelled out for them

[@estebk]

Right?

[@chris_c1701]

Louis/God pretty much spells this out with his speech about devils really being angels, and hell burning away the parts of you that won't let go.

[@jimjanssen216]

Louis was his guardian angel, not God. But, you are correct. He gives the entire plot away with his speech.

[@jimhindell1966]

I came to the comments purely to make the same point you have. Its not a theory. Its the plot of the film. How could anyone think anything different and not have been completely confused by the film?

[@MattrickBT]

On the subject of The Mist ending, the irony is that if they'd never left and they'd never turned on each other, the mist would have lifted and everyone would have been saved. They drove for who knows how long...hours? half a day? It's disgusting to think the mist may have begun to clear behind them, but they kept driving away from it, and it wasn't until they ran out of gas, and he took the time to shoot everyone, the army, who were following the dissipating mist on major thorough fares, or were actually the ones clearing it, little by little. The fact that Melissa McBride is on the one army truck suggests that one truck came from the same town and was right behind them, meaning the mist had cleared before hand. It's not a bad theory, other than the fact the movies own logic disproves it. I am not sure why some people dislike this movie. Maybe because it's such a downer? Seems out of nowhere? I thought it was a brilliant ending and even King himself wishes he'd thought of it. Melissa McBride's character leaves when The Mist happens to protect her children and no one will escort her and even Thomas Jane refuses saying 'Lady, I got my own kid'. Well, not anymore you don't. The ending fit in perfectly with the films theme of morality.

[@MattrickBT]

Your mom. She gobbled it right up, I'm afraid.

[@MattrickBT]

I don't think you understand words very well. Gobble and glob are not the same word. Gobble can mean 'to seize upon eagerly' which was exactly my intended meaning. It makes perfect sense. You're just a fucking idiot.

[@celotape1]

I can't watch the movie because the religious woman (I forget the actors name) the one who suggests killing the main characters kid just infuriates me so much. Good acting/writing I suppose but god damn I can't watch that movie without getting pissed off.

[@TallicaMan1986]

then stabs Darth whats his face from the force awakens.

[@MattrickBT]

celotape1 "If I ever needed a friend like you, I'd have myself a little squat and shit one out." I love Maricia Gay Harden in that movie.

[@EnvolSideral]

The Jacob's Ladder one is not a theory... It's the story of the movie! Of course he's in some kind of purgatory the whole time right before he dies. That's not a theory, that's what the movie's all about!

[@KidIntrikit01]

What about the Blair witch theory from Film Theory? Where there was Berber a witch and it was all a plot to murder the girl. This theory actually makes the original movie 25x better.

[@JohnnyMidnyte]

*26x

[@evan7337]

Floki His theories have gotten a bit worse lately

[@BruceWayne-wh4of]

Sorry, but did we ever saw the "ghost children" at some point? Its just a question, ive seen the movie a long time ago.

[@BruceWayne-wh4of]

How about the theory for the last Blair Witch movie from 2016 (I know nobody besides me liked that movie)? Its says that the long limbed creature actually isnt the witch but Heather, who got deformed by the witch (who by the way, is a much more powerful entity without a physical body). Lane was also used by the witch the whole time, to lure the group into the woods. He got the video material from the witch, or exactly from the future, when Lisa is running through the house. So it was the material from her camera all the time.

[@JohnnyMidnyte]

Bruce Wayne No we never saw any damn kids and that's why the theory is legit and makes the movie *26x better, yo.

[@krisjustice2681]

20 years of Scream. It warms my heart.☺️

[@hosni2]

KLightningBolt while it's getting stabbed

[@Gakusangi]

"Not only do we not actually see any UFO's..." You mean the news broadcast with the lights in the sky and how they talked about them cloaking up there and bird running into them while they were invisible wasn't actually a UFO?

[@StephenC914]

Gakusangi thinking the same thing...

[@Smartfunnyandlazy]

Gakusangi those were angels...

[@stevoridesagain]

Well, demons are fallen angels. And the Bible does say that Satan masquerades as an angel of light. I'm sure you meant that as a joke, but ironically you could be more right than you know.

[@Gakusangi]

Delirus Innominata I dunno, lights hovering above a city with enough mass to crush in a bird skull when they're run into and no-one knows what they are certain sound Unidentified Flying Objects to me. But, how exactly would you define them? Unidentified Flying Object =/= Alien Spacecraft.

[@Gakusangi]

Delirus Innominata Which is all I meant, the video claimed there was no presence of them or reference of them in the movie and that was a false statement, they apparently forgot about that scene. Whether it's extraterrestrial in origin or not doesn't matter, UFO's were present. It was also a factor in why the the average viewer (as you've pointed out) accepted them to be aliens and not demons.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

First time I saw "Scream" I thought Dewy was the killer. I guess we were supposed to since, before the final part, he's not around when the killer is (even when the killer calls on the phone) and in that one part where the killer is in the house and Sydney goes running out the door he's right there holding the mask. Then the last part happens and ruins the idea. However I like the idea of him being the never discovered third killer. :)

[@poego6045]

Wait....how is the Jacob's Ladder one a theory? That's just what that whole movie is supposed to be about. Theories are alternate ways of looking at a movie and its themes, but Jacob's Ladder is BLATANTLY about purgatory, especially when you see him die in the end scene.

[@taylorjones8303]

WFDolphinPilot I think what the "theory" is is that the purgatory in the movie (6 years) just seems like it is but really only happened over a couple hours.

[@robirvine6970]

No, its his imagination as hes dying.

[@MickeyKnox]

So Sam Loomis became a doctor of psychiology in Illinois (from running a little hardware store in Arizona) in only 3 years?

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

Correspondence courses? Night school? Fake degree? Who knows?

[@SocialyAwkwardSophie]

Well I now personally want to believe Loomis was doing all of that with a fake degree. 'Behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply evil... yep thats why we can't help him... totally not cause I don't know what i'm doing...'

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

SocialyAwkwardSophie Yeah, and I'm not sure a real psychiatrist would talk like that much less shoot a patient and spend years trying to track them down and kill them. It all makes so much more sense now. :)

[@lionelhutz5137]

He was very motivated

[@YEOsCanal]

So honestly I think this fan theory just great because it moves both films in a better light. I think both films are good in their own way but the idea that they are connected by something like that makes them both better in their own way, even if it turns out that this is not the case, the idea is really something unique.

[@FFFan3445]

I don't think the Jacob's Ladder one is a theory, I'm pretty sure that's how the movie was intended to be interpreted. Seemed pretty clear and obvious to me, anyways.

[@Mikeanglo]

Shit...the water hurting the demons because it's blessed by Mel Gibson makes a whole lot more sense than the aliens just stupidly invading a world where water is literally fucking everywhere. That theory doesn't make Signs creepier, it just makes it make sense. Holy fucking Jesus.

[@TallicaMan1986]

it can go either way, Humans hopefully one day will traverse such a planet in which everything will kill us for precious resource.

[@Mikeanglo]

***** Sure, but if they decide to send down humans to a world where the air is made of acid...without some sort of suit for protection, it would still be stupid.

[@TallicaMan1986]

Of course, but what if they were wearing suits that were just different and a apart of them, what if they couldn't breath the air which contains hydrogen. I highly doubt a space traveler would be naked.

[@Mikeanglo]

***** As far as I can tell the aliens in signs are.

[@TallicaMan1986]

exactly, They're like type II or III civilizations, they AREN'T naked, probably are though, but What makes you believe they can breath in our oxygen, when it contains a high amount of hydrogen? Whatever they were wearing came from their planet which just so happens to be completely different and to them Water is some of the most corrosive shit they ever came across, because most of their materials is made of what ever planet they're from. Which contains zero water.

[@danfors1333]

The purgatory of Jacob's ladder isn't just fan theories. It was always meant to be interpret that way.

[@reoreborn]

I was thinking the same thing! From the first time I watched that movie (Which is in my top 10 movies) I had always took it that he was in limbo or purgatory.... :/

[@EricJay98]

Dewey never liked his sister. He could be the killer, but he also could just not care. 😂

[@linasayshush]

What about the best one, Film Theory's idea that there was no witch in the Blair Witch Project and the boys made it all up to murder Heather?

[@DogFlamingoXIII]

I like a lot of those a lot -- especially the ones for "Scream" and "The Thing". The traumatized police officers of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a complete mess though. Gein only killed two women, which would hardly be the inspiration for a clan of murderers. Most of his parts came from him being a grave robber.

[@mattd9881]

Wait...how is the spoiler alert helpful if the movies are random & people won't know which ones are on the list. LOL.

[@camerondevilliers4798]

xbox

[@delpantion6045]

Matt D I believe I can answer your question. It's simple really what culture doesn't care about their fans not really that much

[@brobot500]

Same thing with WatchMojo.

[@delpantion6045]

Brobot 500 yeah but at least this is bearable. WatchMojo is sometimes unwatchable..... What are you talking about sometimes? most of the time

[@Erlisch1337]

not like WatchMojo provide a list or anything....oh wait

[@gigirauchut1882]

Dewey being the third accomplice makes a load of sense and it also explains a lot of plot holes throughout the movie, but of course, I don't think all of them could be fixed by just adding him into the mix

[@celestialsalamander]

6:10 Jacob's Ladder Wait? are you saying that isn't cannon? But it is so obviously what actually happened. do you have any evidance that this is not what the writer intended?

[@JimBowen1]

I'd agree, I assumed that was the story.

[@bigman7842]

last time I was this early my dad couldn't pull out

[@sorbitolmaltitolxylitolman3355]

Scott 'bang bang scooty' Brooks uhhhhh

[@BB-zy2te]

Scott 'bang bang scooty' Brooks wow. Thats actually hilarious

[@Sener]

ahh the shit for wankers thing. A catch phrase that has never been funny and nobody asked for.

[@davidcharles3871]

Oh....c[mon....you laughed.

[@DirkAustin]

Sener Yeah, dumbest shit i ever heard.

[@erinyoulater]

Its the best goddamn catchphrase on KZbin

[@LETSpeakTRUTH]

Sener Yup. I remember when he first said it and I let it pass as a one off thing. Then he kept saying it. Not only was it never funny but even funny jokes become old when you beat it to death. I get that he's most likely doing it to fuck with us, but still, it needs to stop.

[@dandreperry2608]

LETSpeakTRUTH do you remember what video it was?

[@Daria-bp9zl]

Scream is ICONIC.

[@moodforever]

The first scream when billy & Stu knew where to stab each other without it being “fatal” ... explains how when Dewey is stabbed (twice) throughout the franchise isn’t fatal either . They always find Sidney, location AND number . I loved Dewey but I believe he is the mastermind behind all of this . He’s the 3rd killer . Now we just need a motive ! Could Sidney mother seduce & leave him too ? We need Randy for this one 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@RialVestro]

That one about Signs being demons rather than Aliens actually makes it turn into a much better movie because why would aliens want to invade a planet covered in a substance that is deadly to them? The thing about them not knowing how to use door knobs is still dumb though.

[@RatedRY]

He said that we never see ufo's in the film but I distinctly remember the family sitting around the tv & there being a few invading spaceships on the news. It's a neat theory though.

[@killaxero86]

The prequel Thing that came out several years ago actually proved that Childs was human. The Thing can't recreate inorganic things like jewelry or a pacemaker when it transforms into a human body. Childs is wearing an earring. In the video game sequel(that John Carpender considers canon) Childs is found frozen to death and MacReady is actually revealed to be a Thing.

[@darkmatter2989]

When Is Macready revealed to be the Thing? He actively helps in killing the final antagonist. Plus, both the prequel and the game have different storylines regarding the Norwegian base infection.

[@killaxero86]

Your right it's been a long time since I played that game. Had to look up the wiki. But Childs was still human, so there's that.

[@A-man-chooses-A-slave-obeys]

Yeah, at the very end, MacCready comes screaming in *SPOILER ALERT* on a helicopter to rescue the main player and together you guys go shooting the final boss. Childs is seen frozen to death at the very early stages of the game. Not too sure which is canon, in regards to Norwegian infection to American. I do like the ending of the 'sequel' prequel and how it tied the two films together. I will never look at husky dogs the same way again and carry a flamethrower on me at all times.... you never know right... lol

[@acheat731]

Sokath, his eyes uncovered

[@toongrowner1]

In the prequel, the one guy in the truck who was infected (forgot the name)... he had an earring, just on the wrong side. Yeah, the thing can't recreate inorganic thing, but that does not mean that it cannot still put them on his body, and which it's shapeshift ability, it should be even easier to place these things, it just have to remember where they actually belong... AND SOURCE PLEASE! Did John really said that the game is canon? It's a guilty pleasure of mine, but the story gets freakin stupid, so how can it be canon?

[@MangetsuSAMURAI]

That Sam Loomis one is actually pretty good. I'd totally get behind that.

[@MunchingUpMangosutube]

Dewey is the best character he would never!

[@cortster12]

1:48 Uh... Yes, it does. The Thing copies the host in their entirety. Memories, dreams, sensations -- all of it. It doesn't just pretend to be someone, it actually emulates the host's brain so it doesn't have to put any effort into it. How else could it act so perfect? And when it's discovered, it terminates the emulation and takes full control. As such, it would be able to taste if the drink was wrong and act accordingly. Just like a human.

[@ScienceFoundation]

John Carpenter confirmed that both Mac and Childs were human at the end of The Thing

[@Symbioteposion]

ScienceFoundation source? Pretty sure he left it open

[@ScienceFoundation]

John Carpenter endorsed The Thing video game as canon from 2002 in which they're both human

[@ScienceFoundation]

Childs was dead and MacReady was alive.

[@PortHolio408]

Carpenter said it was booze in the bottle. Monster Childs knows about humans sharing intoxicants, from sharing the joint in the barracks. McCready knows he has to waste Childs with the flamethrower to be sure, so he's relieved when he finds out he's about to roast the Thing and not his buddy. That's why he chuckles. Monster Childs forgot they're not supposed to share food/drink due to contamination, or knows he has nothing to fear cause he IS the Thing and slipped up. Brilliant ending. Also Childs clothes change from before/after the open door scene by the generator room.

[@hbkx5]

also check out the short story THINGS. its the story from the first two movies but from the creatures point of view.

[@Captain-Cosmo]

While many of the theories were new to me, I actually thought the Jacob's ladder theory as I watched it for the first time in the theatre upon its release. I was less concerned about the "real time"aspect, however, accepting purgatory as more of a dreamlike state than a physical - albeit otherworldly - state. The Mist theory makes total sense. I am an atheist, so I don't necessarily relish that Mrs. Carmedy was right, but hey, its fiction, like The Exorcist and The Omen. It's an amazing film now made even better with an ending that actually has meaning rather than just tragedy. Thomas Jane is very underrated.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

Even if she was right doesn't mean that she was right about WHY it would work. I've heard theories tying the things in movie to the Cthulhu mythology (tentacles are a always a dead give away) so the 'sacrifice' could be to the old ones. Hell, if you go that way one of them could've been whispering to her and using her religion against her.

[@Malachiore]

Chris McWilliams I'm more or less of the same opinion as the OP, but Cthulhu using her own mind against her to corrupt the lady into delivering a sacrifice is a total savior for an otherwise mediocre movie. You sir, have made my day. Cheers.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

Malachiore You're welcome, just another way to look at it I guess. I mean she did go crazy Bible lady awfully fast even for a Stephen King movie. :)

[@Captain-Cosmo]

I thought at the time that the creatures were clearly Lovecraft inspired, so naturally I really appreciate the idea that, while Carmedy may have believed her "inspiration" was biblical, the film's reality was somewhat different. Of course, the film itself doesnt really provide enough to reach this conclusively, but it leaves enough room for the possibility. I would enjoy seeing the film again armed with these ideas.

[@AnthonySforza]

Actually, the third killer in Scream was Sydney's brother... they covered that in the third movie. Also, the "bottle of Scotch" that was gasoline concept was the actual concept. Which was backed up by not only Kurt Russell, but also John Carpenter. Apparently Russell was holding the flamethrower just out of frame, hence his laughing.

[@esscate]

Anthony Sforza There is only one scream

[@brianwestmoreland3836]

@@esscate yes as 3 othrr3 movies

[@SeanMcG]

The issue with the Dewey thing is that it basically holds no solid ground in movies 2-4

[@jackson12016]

The 'theory' of Jacob's Ladder isn't a theory; it is the plot of the film.

[@ianfinrir8724]

Alternatively for Signs you could use the Invader Zim explanation: it's not the water that hurts them, it's the pollutants *in* the water that hurts them

[@Okulele-d4t]

Signs demon theory is so convincing since shyamalamala has shoved so many heavyhanded bible references throughout the film.

[@RockyOtter]

Except what about the experiences from around the world? Like the alien at the birthday party? Or M. Night's character trapping one in the closet? Couldn't it pass through it? The lights in the sky on the T.V.? The crop circles? Why would the demons make crop circles? Why make people think they were aliens? What difference does it make? Idk. It just raises too many questions (obviously :P) for me. But it is an interesting thought as to why water of all things hurts them.

[@Okulele-d4t]

Rocky Otter thats the whole point of this movie! it might be aliens, but whats important is that to our hero, an Ex-priest who lost faith in god, it could be interpreted as demons. they could be real alien spices whos weakness is water. but to Graham it is "water blessed by angel(he said Bo was like angel and she took a sip of those cups of water)" that defeats them. why not demons? this is a movie about belief, and belief is connecting meaningless random dots and giving it a whole new name. idk. maybe aliens ARE demons. and vice versa. ancient folks who got attacked by Extraterrestrial beings wrote that demon part in the bible... (too far fetched?)

[@RockyOtter]

I understand the point you're making, and I'm not meaning it to sound like I'm attacking anyone who follows the theory. It's a fun little thought, and connecting dots in plots is one of the reasons movies are made. I'm just saying to me, people are connecting the dots to draw a rabbit, and I'm drawing a sideways duck.

[@RockyOtter]

Also, who the fuck knows what went through the writers' heads when they decided to pen the Bible.

[@Okulele-d4t]

Rocky Otter oh well. youre right. that demon theory has some holes indeed...

[@westinjohnson]

scream 5 proved us wrong on the dewey is a killer theory 😬

[@roboat6755]

#shitfatherwhodraggedoutascaryfogmonsterattackbynotkillinghissonsoonerforwankers

[@imthejokerbaby7830]

samuraigames you put the r before the o in for

[@ArkStClair]

Why this every time stop please

[@danielquiroz7311]

*UGH T Y P I C A L.*

[@colloween8826]

I love Bens videos the best. Too bad he's not with them anymore.

[@JuicyFilms3]

FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED! 0:28 Scream 1:18 The Thing 2:00 The Mist 3:05 Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon 3:44 Signs 4:28 Halloween 5:24 Texas Chainsaw Massacre 6:10 Jacob's Ladder I know I don't like having movies spoiled for me so I thought I'd try and save some people from being spoiled.

[@olivia-lu9kk]

The scariest part about this video was that the ad for me was about Scientology.

[@krishanubanerjee6955]

The scariest part about that is that the ads are *supposed* to be based on your browsing and search histories. :D

[@TheOblake2]

so signs wasn't a bad movie then

[@ambermorganjones8153]

olin blake

[@ambermorganjones8153]

yeah it was a good movie

[@ambermorganjones8153]

olin blake

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

No it WAS a bad movie.

[@Okulele-d4t]

olin blake of course it was a fucking good movie!

[@badskater2657]

When whatculture has a video that's # 18 trending

[@christallh24]

Wow, I guess I'm not the horror fan I thought I was. That 'Psycho'/'Halloween' connection flew right over my head. I LOVE the hypothesis, though! Thanks, for including 'The Rise Of Leslie Vernon'! That movie is criminally underrated or appreciated.

[@RawbeardX]

The Mist one makes the movie less creepy.

[@cloister5613]

At 1:28 you say it comes down to Childs and MacReady while showing Nauls and MacReady. That scene is from when they go to check on Blair. - Doesn't change your point but just felt it needed saying. So in terms of Childs or MacReady being human or Thing I like that there is no definitive answer. They may be suspicious of each other but they are so exhausted and the chance of rescue so bleak that it barely matters anymore. The prequel gives some clues and the game and comic book give their own answers but none of it really matters. For those interested : SPOILERS -------- Prequel - The Thing can't form artificial objects, Childs has an earing. Childs - Human, MacReady - ? Game - Childs body is found, MacReady pilots your character out - Childs - Likely Human, MacReady - ? (does fight the Thing but so do others) Comic - Childs and MacReady both pass the blood/flame test - Neither were the Thing

[@calskuthorpe7406]

Yup, just popped into the comments to say the same thing about Nauls, but you did it for me. Cheers! :)

[@jugghead82]

The Halloween connection got me sounds good

[@Thetazord]

The Sam Loomis one is awesome. For some reason I never realized the guy from psycho was named Sam Loomis also. Well done. That’s a very cool theory.

[@neonshark8084]

I love the idea of halloween being a sequel to phycho

[@dannyboidee]

keeganshigh He could of already had one or was in the middle of college, and only was only running Sam Loomis Hardware as a part time job to earn money.

[@JD_ATX]

Well, there WAS a 3rd killer -- Roman. He admits to Sydney that he killed Maureen and then put Billy and Stu up to the murders in the first film. In SCREAM 3s original script, Angelina (Emily Mortimer) was Roman's girlfriend/accomplice. She had actually grown up in Woodsboro and had an obsession/crush on Sydney, which Roman used to his advantage.

[@crunchychips8123]

The Jacob's Ladder 'fan theory' makes no meaningful difference to the plot. What does it matter how quickly time passes? Also, go back and watch Magnum PI after watching Jacob's Ladder and have your mind blown.

[@Mukation]

In Jacob's Ladder he's struggling to come to terms with the fact that he's dying and all the things he was going to miss out on in life (A family etc). That's how i figured it was.

[@snaxx82]

I remember thinking along the lines of purgatory when watching the film. kinda made sense to me.

[@Mukation]

***** Yeah, purgatory is also a valid explanation.

[@crunchychips8123]

I don't think you guys really get the point WhatCulture was making. They weren't suggesting that the Purgatory interpretation was the 'creepy fan theory' (that's probably the default interpretation amongst Yanks, what with their religious cultural saturation) but that the 'realtime purgatory' interpretation was somehow creepier. As the whole film is from Tim Robbins' perspective, what difference does it make whether 6 years or 6 minutes passed in the external world? What is the meaningful difference between the last scene being him remembering his death or him experiencing it?

[@snaxx82]

this is actually exactly the way I perceived it, the film starts in vietnam, then comes the "purgatory" bit (whether real life experience, future or just a mumbo jumbo created by his mind, then it is revealed he died. i agree with chips that the sensation of time is irrelevant for him during his "moments" of death.

[@jon_snow_420]

good work saying there are spoilers ahead but not saying what movies until you reveal the twist. great job fellas good going

[@dcrawley507]

I can get behind the Sam Loomis theory I almost wish it was true but I can only imagine lol

[@TianaSidhe]

Wow, this is the earliest I've been on for one of Ben's videos. Neat!

[@Zivsick]

The scariest part of 2016 was KZbin's new update

[@NGMonocrom]

With regards to Childs, we then see MacCready lean down a bit. It's out of the shot. But the implication is that he's slowly reaching for the flame-thrower to kill the Thing in front of him as Childs. Before he then freezes to death. Any group finding his frozen body will assume MacCready went insane and murdered everyone.

[@calvinscheuerman]

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre one is really stupid. Nothing in the film hints at anything like that at all. Somebody just made it up because they incorrectly thought it was cool. It's not even a fan theory at that point; it's just bad fan fiction.

[@carlosreturns4557]

the Texas Chainsaw massacre happened in real life so it might be a theory about the real one if anything

[@zionhyomeify]

I posted a similar theory about Dewey on Reddit a while back. However, in mine, he wasn't actually in on the events of the first movie, but he changed after going through all those horrible things, and became the ringleader in the rest of the films. His demeanor is such that nobody would ever suspect him. Also, in every movie there is a scene with Dewey and the killer in the same place without the killer attacking him. Also, any time the killer does attack him, there is always someone there to witness it. Finally, he's always incapacitated when the final showdown between the killer and Sidney takes place. This could be because he is waiting to see who wins, so he won't be suspected if Sidney wins, and the killer can't implicate him if he was helping Sidney.

[@theamazingrobin927]

The Mist theory was bad.

[@RisingBeast00]

Domingo Stevens Yeah very bad. It's all based on coincidence.

[@johnnybananas7783]

Still better than the dogshit texas chainsaw one lol

[@jesseflood]

You forgot VALENTINE. Dorothy was also a killer. In the movie, if you watch at the beginning. Dorothy & Jeremy are kissing under the bleachers. When the other kids discover them, Dorothy says because he's unpopular, Jeremy forced her, so the kids mercilessly beat him up. Years later he gets revenge against Dorothy's friends. She has a fight with her friends (why should the fat girl get a turn). The revenge takes place at her house. At the end she's wearing the Valentine killer costume but falls down the stairs with Kate. When he sits up. Kate's boyfriends shoots her and it's revealed to be Dorothy, even though as the movie closes the bloody nose reveals it's Kate's boyfriend. But the theory says that he told Dorothy we can be together, so she became his accomplice, even though he double crossed her in the end, thus getting rid of the only person who knew he was the killer. Watch the movie and see if you don't agree with me. I remember the whole thing was here on KZbin at one time.

[@trcsonic]

I think officer Judy is the third killer in Scream 4.

[@martacabrerasbf7291]

trcsonic well he wasn't

[@stranco2192]

Iamdonricky15Gaming /TV "she"

[@stranco2192]

trcsonic possibly but she had more than enough opportunities to kill all 3 main characters and never personally I think Trevor was

[@martacabrerasbf7291]

Gaming pro 57 I'm sorry if officer Judy's name is for boys and I forgot the whole movie, everything I remembered is that who is the killer and who survives

[@trcsonic]

It never happened because Scream 4 was not successful enough for a new trilogy.

[@TheNotbadphonedaddy]

"Move into Gein's home" and what, move it 1,300 miles from Plainfield, Wisconsin to Kingsland, Texas?

[@annaleah6801]

do more videos like this, i really enjoyed that

[@LenHazell]

Doctor Loomis being Sam Loomis from Psycho can be backed up by the fact his nurse Marion chambers shares her last name with sheriff Al Chambers and may well be his daughter, this being backed up by her appearance in H20, when she has kept tabs on Michael in a police like fashion, has never married so still has her fathers name.

[@arzn253]

Happy 20th anniversary Scream!!

[@TheRealNormanBates]

1:21 even if it was Scotch, MacReady was still testing him. Remember that even _one single cell_ could convert your entire body (even if it took a few days or weeks), which is why earlier Mac is telling everyone to eat out of cans (that are sealed). By taking a swig out of a bottle that would have Mac's saliva (and "Thing" cells, if Mac was converted) without batting an eye, it shows that Childs either doesn't care or is The Thing (also note Mac's expression when Child's takes a drink without hesitation). Not sure if I buy the whole "Dewey is the 3rd killer", though maybe he set the others up so he could swoop in an be the hero (ie the firefighter who starts fires so he/she can put them out). 3:11 is there any evidence for Scott Wilson being Billy though (other than fan wankery)? PS: check out THE NINTH CONFIGURATION for some great Wilson action. 4:32 that one is not bad... keep in mind that Marion's sister Lila wound up marrying Sam and having a daughter, as played by Meg Tilly in PSYCHO 2. Of course, Lila mentions that Sam is dead.. but PSYCHO II takes place in 1983, and HALLOWEEN 2 takes place directly after the events of HALLOWEEN in 1978, and we all know what happens to Sam at the end of that (posh on the rest of the HALLOWEEN movies), so it could still fit. Maybe it could add to Lila's desire to ensnare Norman Bates, as not only did he kill her sister, but because of the path it put Loomis on, it wound up killing her husband too. 6:10 not sure how that changes anything. Whether he is flashing to a future possibility or it is all "in his head", it doesn't matter if it all takes place "in real time" (whatever that means) or not. In fact, the only _real_ scenes are the Vietnam ones. Everything else is memories and dreams, mixed together with the part that wants to live no matter what, and the part that is ready to let go and move on.

[@jjab99]

I hope that you have a very Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year.

[@humperdinkmagillacuttyiii4004]

The guy you show as "Childs" in the first clip with the hood on is actually "Nauls". Just FYI.

[@superherojai1948]

SCREAM was supposed to have a 5th and 6th movie but ever since Wes Craven died it's nearly impossible...

[@AliaOfTheKnife10191]

There's a deleted moment in Jacob's Ladder near the end where Jacob unmasks Jezebel to find himself underneath, smiling sweetly. If that had been left in, I think the ending would be less ambiguous, since Jez was a stabilizing figure of comfort during the film, and was helping to normalize his life in limbo.

[@seth2901]

The scream one doesn't make any sense... at all.

[@Falling_Stream]

especially considering the sequels

[@seth2901]

Exactly!!

[@wowisntitanamazinglyamazin9550]

seth2901 I always liked to think that in the 5th film Dewey is the killer

[@ranwolf1240]

I'm pretty sure the squid monster in The Mist didn't start "picking them off one by one". IIRC it only killed the stock boy. other creatures killed other characters. Though it's possible the squid killed the biker later on

[@yementaikor4994]

scary movie 1 had doofy as one of the killers

[@Competitive_Antagonist]

1:50 But the narrator has a reference point for what gasoline tastes like. I've never drank it myself, but I can only imagine it tastes like whisky.

[@hammeringhank5271]

I really like the Sam Loomis theory

[@moodforever]

“ slicing his way thru her classmates “ 😂😂😂

[@yourmama7721]

The dewey theory is ridiculous if you simply cared to watch further than the first scream movie,

[@johnnybananas7783]

Your comment is ridiculous. There were no other movies when the first one came out obviously so it was a standalone movie until the sequels

[@billytalley8849]

Actually, The Thing's fan theory has been debunked by The Thing video game (which is a sequel to the movie) where you end up finding Child's body, but you never find Macreedy's body.

[@marymori8959]

Omg. The Mist was ridiculous!!!

[@hfhxgdytfyguyghfyfhrbt6gxc749]

I think it was actually confirmed that Eugene in Behind the Mask was Billy.

[@sajtjakab]

Too bad Carpenter denied that Thing theory

[@Gogetahan]

Its because Carpenter is ......The Thing

[@zackbrangen1528]

Mootthemad Actually In the Graphic Novel, Childs turns out to be infected, MacReedy & Childs escape the arctic and make it to Argentina, but the thing followed them all the way, killing everyone they encounters, at first MacReedy test his blood to see if He's infected, but Childs poor his own blood and mix it with MacReedy, making people think He's infected, he runs to the Forrest, and childs takes the entire Argentina base, and then reveals himself to MacReady before the base is completely wiped out by the military, They kill him but the Thing already made it to land, So I guess the Gasoline theory is true.

[@fullmetalkunai67]

i really like that loomis theory but the only problem with the ed gein traumatized cop family is that ed gein was from wisconsin and for those cops to suddenly move down there for no rhyme or reason is a bit reaching

[@zxywanderer]

The theory about the Thing is just implied. How is that a fan theory??

[@jakemeyers6513]

That's where most of the best theories come from, little implications that get noticed and talked about.

[@nightflyer777]

Plus, the game that came out years ago (if you count it as canon, considering it takes place just a little after the movie), debunks that theory when you find Child's frozen, completely human, body.

[@bearlickus1]

Child's is the alien, but not because of the whiskey. If you look closely at the end of the movie, as Child's and Mac Cready sit out side, you notice that Mac Cready's breath can be seen, proving he's human. You can't see Child's breath.

[@logic7753]

I've always wondered why Dewey never mentioned Tatum?

[@MeDeChamp]

That hashtag was long xD

[@loriautz417]

The flying saucers on Signs were seen during a news report. Later, they became invisible, but they were described as "there but not there."

[@Allsop89]

Does anyone else immediately roll their eyes and feel disgusted as soon as he starts with the "hash tag ... for wankers" gag ...? It's not funny anymore!!!!!!

[@acemendez23]

BROTHERS inARMS it's still pretty funny

[@ArkStClair]

Any more it never was to begin with

[@yvettecarter9273]

Alex Mendez no it's not, it really isn't.

[@walkerlocker6126]

It's never been funny. There is literally nothing funny about it.

[@Andy-lu6sx]

Damn, the Sam Loomis one actually seems legit!

[@jb112011]

ash from pokemon was in a coma the entire time

[@acheat731]

PandaPickle!

[@Juicylemons1212]

It would explain why the fuck he never ages. #creepylittlebastard lol

[@dannygoodwin3746]

Kevin from Home Alone is Jigsaw from Saw

[@IceKoldKilla]

So basically Scary Movie got it right.

[@mattiemattie69]

no, that theory is proven wrong. they even say that deweys sister is killed in the fist movie in this video so it would not be him. also every killer from the scream franchise always unmasks themselves at the end and tells sidney why they did it.

[@azuregiant9258]

The Jacob's Ladder theory? I never even questioned that that was what happened.

[@YouJVFtube]

Heard the Voice over the video, had flashbacks about the fucking long and not funny hashtag shit, and immediately closed the video.

[@ilovemakingcatgirlscry7574]

then how did you write the comment?

[@VC-xj1fs]

God, Jacob's Ladder fucked me up as a kid.

[@sneedclavecheems4114]

the mist first time i saw it i was 11 at the time i was not feeling any bad emotions until he have to shoot the others and the mist disepear i started crying so hard ps sorry if i typed wrong im swedish and not that great at english

[@standardofexcellence]

Terrathor Games thats cool, i like the swedes im an american and of irish and indian decent

[@sneedclavecheems4114]

cool 3 decents your the first persone that have that many of my knowleg

[@randomuser4014]

Terrathor Games your English is better than my Swedish lol ..yeah that part was totally messed up & you see the woman the group refused to help back at the market on the passing army truck safe & sound.

[@sneedclavecheems4114]

Nick Dovie i Got so mad when i Saw that

[@chancewallace47]

Btw, At the very end of The Thing you can also see that only Kurt Russel's breath is visible despite them being just feet away from each other proving he wasn't the alien host after all. .

[@chancewallace47]

Plus, does anybody actually believe that a pre 2000s horror movie would end with a black guy surviving?! Lol.... Don't get me wrong though. To be fair, this film was very racially progressive for its time and showed true bravery in doing so. I mean, the black guy didn't even die first. A very brave and unprecedented decision by the film makers but there is only so much they could do.

[@crapparc]

Re: The Mist. Stephen King is completely anti-religion, so I doubt that a sacrifice to God would be the answer.

[@MaxPwnzer]

Yes, because a person is anti-religion means he can't write a story that makes God look like an even bigger scumbag than his own book does.

[@crapparc]

He'd be a bigger scumbag if he didn't honor the deal, which is what he does if the theory is right. And King loves making God a scumbag.

[@TheNightmareMan]

crapparc Stephen King is not anti religion there is something Christian based in every one of his books be it a Bible verse or in the case of the stand a literal Armageddon between God and Satan ending in a crucifixion and the hand of God coming down and ending everything

[@christallh24]

Sorry, he's what? As an atheist, Stephen King has *never* comes across anti-religion. Especially, not re-reading 'The Stand' as I am now.

[@Jarekx2007]

It's an interesting theory but agreed, the child sacrifice wouldn't have done anything. The woman prophet is theorized to actually be a servant (knowingly or unknowingly) of the evil god/presence that recurs in all his novels. This is theorized because of the fact the one bug lands on her but doesn't attack her. The original ending didn't even end with the dude killing everyone, instead opting for a nice ending since they escaped the supermarket and rode off in the direction of hope. SK loved the movie version though and they went with it because it was so gut wrenching to watch.

[@Sraydog13]

My Jaws fan theory: I have fan theory behind jaws. It goes like this. Jaws is not a real shark, but a evil entity conjure up by the lost souls who were kill by the bomb that was shipped to Japan by the SS Minneapolis. You really never see jaws until the the end, so it always seems that jaws is some kind of ghost that appears when ever someone steps into the water. Jaws is the evil curse that shows up the same time Quint shows up. Jaws is Quint’s curse . When Quint dies, the Jaws cures skips Cooper and goes right for Sheriff Brody. Brody also has a scare on his stomach that is never explained, but as a audience I'm led to believe it’s from shark attack as a kid. I believe Brody was marked to be cursed. It’s also kind of weird jaws keeps going after Brody’s family in the sequels after. What do you think? I like this because it’s kind of reminds me of the Voorhees curse. It keeps coming back again and again