FYI, we have a Norco Fluid VLT in-house for testing (it wasn't here in time for this test) and our previous Orbea Rise test can be found here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXaXgqN_Z52ih6s
@marauder74127 ай бұрын
Too bad the Mondi Dune didn't come out a bit earlier. Would have been great to see some Bosch motors on test.
@charlesrichmond44147 ай бұрын
I have the Trek Exe. Changed it to a 150 rear, 160 fork. Mullet out back. Still a great trail bike, but a little more capable. Also, im 5'8" and tend to prefer mullets except for short travel 29ers. This review is solid. I ride it with a buddy that has the ari and one that has the newer levo sl. The guy with the ari has 20 percent more battery than we do at the end of the ride.
@joehoeper39417 ай бұрын
Guy in the Ari is still riding a 20% weirder bike though
@davidgrothen39437 ай бұрын
@@joehoeper3941what’s “weird” about it?
@whitest_kyle7 ай бұрын
I also have an EXe and absolutely love it. Stock rear but I did go up to a 160 fork. Motor is super quiet and punchy enough to make the climbs not suck, but you definitely still have to work for it. Rides like a normal bike, a really well sorted one. FYI overstroking the shock on the EXe comes dangerously close to seatstay bridge/seat tube contact at bottom out, so be careful I guess. It's like 2-3mm gap.
@charlesrichmond44147 ай бұрын
@@whitest_kyleThanks for the warning. I had that concern too, but i think my medium frame has more clearance than just a couple mm. Also, frame is fairly stiff, which i like, and doesnt flex as much as most of the bikes i have ridden. In any case, will keep an eye on it. Thanks!
@youling19973 ай бұрын
His battery life span is probably gonna longer as well.
@joehoeper39417 ай бұрын
You are able to dim the FAZUA top tube lights with black electrical tape. Love this style and format - would love to see this done more in the future. Great test category- well done, fellas❤
@ShapeThings7 ай бұрын
Will try the tape trick, wish they would update the app preferences to allow you to dim or only display the led on mode changes and battery level changes for a set time. Distracting currently
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
agreed. an app update vs electrical tape on $8000-10000 bikes seems more appropriate.
@joehoeper46487 ай бұрын
@@ShapeThingsI would also think very distracting on night rides. That's why I went with the Bullit.
@bearjewmtb48277 ай бұрын
As an owner of the giant I gotta say it’s probably the most underrated ebike out there. I have the version here in the test and while I agree with some of the negatives they pointed out overall it’s a beast. Change out the bars, internally routed headset nonsense, and maybe brakes depending on your style and it’s a beast. Put the fork to 160 overstroked the rear and it’s even more of a beast now. Throw on the battery extender for an extra lb and you keep up with battery life with full fats with ease.
@bearjewmtb48277 ай бұрын
Oh and maybe you got a defect live valve because mine works amazingly and I notice it. And love it. But I am considering swapping to rockshox stuff cuz the new stuff is just so damn good. Especially for a taller/heavier guy like myself.
@adampalma37657 ай бұрын
I agree. The Giant and the Cannondale would be my top picks. May rarely use the 85nm but nice to know it’s on tap if you ever want it
@chrisdidato3846 ай бұрын
So how was the $750 dollar battery upgrade?
@bomb75175 ай бұрын
What a review, awesome job ! Thanks
@starship38617 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was just the best ebike comparison review ever! Great work.
@bostondye37367 ай бұрын
The karbon powerline sl can be bought from Alibaba for like 3k.... its a light carbon lce930
@guambra20017 ай бұрын
This is pretty extensive test. The Cannondale did great!
@taol82587 ай бұрын
Love riding my Gen 2 Levo SL. It's not the fastest nor the most capable but it is the most fun bike I have I just want to ride it all the time. I have the Comp Carbon size S3 and it weighs 39lbs(without pedals). I don't mind having the RE when riding with full fats it adds around 2 lbs and it's still super light!
@_Jake.From.Statefarm_7 ай бұрын
Regarding the fazua's motor matching cadence. I turned the acceleration off because I like the initial stroke to feel like a regular bike and it got rid of that odd movement. I think it's the acceleration kicking it at odd times in the pedal strokes. (Heckler SL)
@chrisdidato3846 ай бұрын
3:01:10 so did specialized fix their dropper post depth issues on the S3 and lower sizes. The older levos could run anything larger than a 150 due to insertion depth limits. I had to ride an S2 and a 150 dropper as a 5”6 medium spec rider. 180 minimum dropper for me. I like to touch the ground on an MTB. Thats one thing I love about transition they are thought through for all riders not just the 5’,9” specialized riders.
@moosicman1017 ай бұрын
just watched it for the third time! agree with everything.
@clive09567 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis and a really good review. Thanks, guys.
@glenfordesty73962 ай бұрын
Trail you guys were testing on looks like Chaparral at Joaquin Miller Park. Many tires/rims felt the wrath of the rock section 🚵♀ miss riding those trails. Great review guys!!! Good to see how the Cannondale Monterra has evolved over the years. Going for a Specialized Levo SL 😁
@anthonynazzal19587 ай бұрын
Orbea rise and pivot shuttle sl….. you can’t have an sl test without those
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
our rise test - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXaXgqN_Z52ih6s
@timwilson91207 ай бұрын
Where is the Pivot SL?
@justind52627 ай бұрын
Yea they missed out on any bosche motors, too bad.
@lee.j70777 ай бұрын
Great job!thanks for the review,would also like to see the fluid vlt review hopefully soon
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
fluid vlt is in-house for testing. didn't arrive in time for this test
@cliffsangelsphotography7 ай бұрын
I bought the Trek Fuel EXe 8. The little extra weight from the alloy frame really helps plant you for a more supple ride.
@lars_atx7 ай бұрын
Great reviews. I was hoping to have the Shuttle SL compared too. Definitely interested in this category. thanks
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson7 ай бұрын
Very nice detailed reviews, I watched the whole thing. 😊 My interests were the Giant (without live valve) and the Santa Cruz (Fazua motor). Thanks for that! 👍
@MountainDeweyMTB7 ай бұрын
My buddy loves his Karbon
@briangong0077 ай бұрын
Awesome to see my local trails used for this test ....doesn't the Cannondale have an option to run rear 29er?
@matthewking44707 ай бұрын
As someone whose stanina is hit hard by medical issues. I've been looking at a few e mtbs that are more pedal assist than full power. But then i see the price of some of these bikes, and its kinda wild how expensive they are.
@derekbisbing11387 ай бұрын
Curious to see how the new Norco sits within these bikes!
@daxolivares69397 ай бұрын
Are they ever going to release the kenevo sl 2 in the US?
@ShapeThings7 ай бұрын
Did not expect to see JMP to be featured so prominently! Would post the Leo Once Upon a Time in Hollywood pointing gif if I knew how. I find running a cowbell is recommended descending Chaparral and Cinderella, as annoying as it may be.
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
we rode mid-week, so it was fairly empty.
@andrewfife84377 ай бұрын
That Nebo looks like a done deal with that performance and price!
@myrideclips50337 ай бұрын
Wish you guys got out on the Norco Fluid VLT to test the Bosch SX system.
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
we have the fluid vlt in house for testing. it wasn't available for this test.
@somerandomperson82826 ай бұрын
Damn, I thought the Trek eXe battery was one of the few lightweight EMTB's that had a removeable battery without bolts?
@spawnrcandbikes5 ай бұрын
hows the bosch cx power compared to the cannondale sl power? i rode the cannondale alloy with cx motor and it rips up the hill in turbo mode....the bad is that bike is heavy AF ....approx 57lbs a brick
Buy the Heckler, burn the Karbon, borrow the Cannondale
@lefty2987 ай бұрын
Will you be testing the Mondraker Neat?
@chosenfruits84577 ай бұрын
S5 on the Levo is a big tank - how big are the testers? great review btw.
@chosenfruits84577 ай бұрын
ahhh , got it from the website :)
@MTB_CRZY6 ай бұрын
where did you guys get those cool "not an e bike" water bottles that look like a battery?! those are super cool!
@vitalmtb6 ай бұрын
we made them a few years ago. we may bring them back
@MTB_CRZY6 ай бұрын
@@vitalmtb that would be awesome!
@isaiahg.247 ай бұрын
Jmp being used for a test is so sick!
@ShapeThings7 ай бұрын
And making it look radder than it is 😂 tho, (I think it was Simonetti?) had some impressive sends on Cinderella.
@ultimatist7 ай бұрын
@@ShapeThings bro, it's very rad for being a backyard destination
@ShapeThings7 ай бұрын
@@ultimatist I know a lot people like it. Having an e-bike does make the monotony of climbing back to Cindy & Chap much more enjoyable (ie faster)
@T0hi47 ай бұрын
Simplon Rapcon Pmax TQ great light e bike
@mitza61627 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see the new Norco fluid
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
we have the fluid vlt in house for testing. it wasn't ready before our test happened.
@mitza61627 ай бұрын
@@vitalmtb good stuff
@paulkahlke22917 ай бұрын
Holy crap, a 3 hr video! Can we get this distilled?
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
chapter markers and 1.5x speed is your friend : ) or hit our site for the write-ups - www.vitalmtb.com/features/vital-mtb-test-sessions-lightweight-sl-e-bikes
@jeremybub7 ай бұрын
SRAM transmission domination!
@jack915227 ай бұрын
This video would be a lot shorter if they stopped using the word “like”
@chrisdidato3846 ай бұрын
GIant FYI: Expansion Pak Battery ($500) Requires a plastic bottle cage ($100) and its own charger ($250). No spliteer like specialized!!(big miss and big prices$$$. =$750 for a battery pak is ridiculous. Get a heckler. Brakes are a joke. Battery cover with sync drive is attached with double sided sticky tape, not a waterproof seal. E-TRX wheels a joke massive flex, loose hubs with not adjustment/tighteners. It’s a $4k bike with a 10k price tag. Oh and support? LOL. None. Your completely reliant on your shop they don’t talk to the public. Quality bike-shops wont carry Giant due to all the above. All my comlliant asside. These bike reviews should include an overview of the battery extenders especially on bike that sell a half pak battery on an SL. People need to know that there is a $750 tax to add that battery capacity back.
@aVesela3_14cka6 ай бұрын
if i get it right for you the best bike is Heckler and thank you for the info about expansion pak price
@Jesse_James_7 ай бұрын
WOOOOOOOOWWww
@akaemzett5 ай бұрын
Why would Specialized offer an upgrade path for motors and batteries when they could just sell you a new bike in five years?
@TheAngryHusky7 ай бұрын
That Nebo Peak is sexy
@jungjoonchoi37447 ай бұрын
my shimano ep8 motor got e01022 code before 26 month. Not durable motor it is.
@tonyvaccarelli79506 ай бұрын
no Scott's ever what gives ?just wondering
@premix5six7 ай бұрын
Can believe how bad I want a Cannondale
@jasonterry2337 ай бұрын
Orbea rise ?
@vitalmtb7 ай бұрын
our rise test - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXaXgqN_Z52ih6s
@TheRexPerkins2 ай бұрын
Giant does not know the average mtber very well. Giant makes bikes for the guy who has a lot of money but sucks at riding 😂