8 Panharmonicons?! | Mechanized Production | Pioneer | Against the Odds

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MTGGoldfish

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@thomasfisk2467
@thomasfisk2467 4 жыл бұрын
you could have fit siege rhino into this deck if you really tried
@MstrKipper
@MstrKipper 4 жыл бұрын
He even had the prison to mana fix
@erfunk
@erfunk 4 жыл бұрын
Grixis opponent's interaction stats... Swift End: 7 Murderous Rider: 8 (ran one out early with no targets to kill.) Thoughtseize: 3 Thought Erasure: 2 Fatal Push: 2 Terminate: 1 Languish: 1 Bolas: 1 And they had a bounced Rider in hand at game's end, because they were limited by Seth's creatures. The only other cards they ever saw were lands and a JVP they surveiled away on turn 3.
@JackPowerX
@JackPowerX 4 жыл бұрын
Question: Why not add Darksteel Citadel as a Production target? Since the wincon is for any artifact rather than just the enchanted one, putting Production on an indestructible "free" artifact reduces the chances of a two-for-one and/or your oppo ruining your day with a random artifact destruction spell. Also has the side effect of being semi-ramp-ish.
@Humatra
@Humatra 4 жыл бұрын
What are you? Some kinda genius?!
@smartkaboose3806
@smartkaboose3806 4 жыл бұрын
Aw man now I wish seth played this version instead
@x83_t76Y
@x83_t76Y 4 жыл бұрын
A redo is in order
@Tyubirocks1
@Tyubirocks1 4 жыл бұрын
Not pioneer legal.
@JackPowerX
@JackPowerX 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tyubirocks1 M15
@joserene-t5z
@joserene-t5z 4 жыл бұрын
This against the odds is suppoesd to be about Mechanize Production. But seth made it about Panharmonicon
@brandonheselton6872
@brandonheselton6872 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Mechanized Production deck in pioneer would seem pretty cool. Seth: Today we have a panharmoni..... I mean Mechanized Production deck
@ArchbardWava
@ArchbardWava 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to sleep but a title like this is just unignorable. Here we go!
@minebattle5679
@minebattle5679 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@bottlingsho5431
@bottlingsho5431 4 жыл бұрын
Sleep is for the weak
@NatesiKness
@NatesiKness 4 жыл бұрын
Lavinia: Comes down on turn 4-5 Safron Olive: *good against aggro decks*
@Diotialate
@Diotialate 4 жыл бұрын
Colonel Mustard, in the ballroom, with the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench. Good game.
@danlewis7707
@danlewis7707 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Wall of amazing. Lol.
@Auriorium
@Auriorium 4 жыл бұрын
Its morning. The Quarantine is till in effect. And I have a coffee mug in my hand and watching an 8 Panharmonicon deck. This is the life.
@absolutfx
@absolutfx 4 жыл бұрын
Was literally thinking yesterday it's been a long time since we've seen Panharmonicon. Never change Seth, never change.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
It's back!
@dweebyphoebe3033
@dweebyphoebe3033 4 жыл бұрын
The choice to splice the footage of gameplay examples into the deck tech was absolutely perfect. Great way to break the monotony and stagnation of deck techs. A+
@Uzotrups
@Uzotrups 4 жыл бұрын
uhhh, those nice deck tech edits showing the card in game... chef's kiss
@abe10alpha
@abe10alpha 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to put mechanized production on the clue to win with 8 clue tokens.
@joserene-t5z
@joserene-t5z 4 жыл бұрын
It's to assert dominance
@abe10alpha
@abe10alpha 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Rene Ticsay best reply ever 😂😂😂
@DavyMcWavy
@DavyMcWavy 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Rene Ticsay YES! Reminds me of my turn 1 gilded goose, turn 2 swing for 0. Yes, I could’ve made another food token but the disrespect swing is too good.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
We can sac the clue if our opponent tries to steal it though!
@kimdron256
@kimdron256 4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish If they steal it the enchantment will fall off, it has to enchant an artifact you control. Even if it didn't you would still get the copies from Mech Pro
@kevinciccoli7052
@kevinciccoli7052 4 жыл бұрын
I really dig the visual examples during the deck tech. Keep up the good work. 🖒
@brendanerickson2363
@brendanerickson2363 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the production of these video! And this deck is sweet
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Magnivore519
@Magnivore519 4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Whoosh
@johnroyston3859
@johnroyston3859 4 жыл бұрын
Us: "Just how many panharmonicons do you need to win Seth?" Seth: "YES"
@N1ghthavvk
@N1ghthavvk 4 жыл бұрын
Seth: "YES. YES! YES! IT CAN HAPPEN!"
@abelexclusa9856
@abelexclusa9856 4 жыл бұрын
You frigging mad man, you finally went and lived the dream! Good on you!
@AfterHoursRacing07
@AfterHoursRacing07 4 жыл бұрын
Against bant, I think it would have been better to reflector mage the agent instead of verdicting. Plays around them having another agent. They had the knight so it wouldn't have mattered but it forces them to have it.
@geegnomes
@geegnomes 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, I like that you're switching up the editing with the cliffhanger starts. Feels like it could use some musical or sound cue to lead into your deck intro. This is what draws me into every god damn arena boys video.
@DarthTUK
@DarthTUK 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't put the final game in the preview at the beginning of the video. I don't like those previews - half of the fun is finding out if you eventually pull off the "against the odds" finish. I appreciate it even more when you edit them to the end so it's a perfect closure for the whole video - makes me go "he did it, what an absolute mad man..." or something in that sense. I love the jank. I love it when it wins in it's janky way and you KNOW that opponent is either crushed and debates quitting magic right there after losing to the pile of cards you bring in and/or they are equally impressed and befuddled at what just happened to them. I still think about that one opponent you crushed with Ajani and Timestream Navigator. You are the best Seth
@STCWGaming
@STCWGaming 4 жыл бұрын
If I ever see Seth (PBKASO) I will try to get him to sign my foil panharmonicon.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to!
@dizman1235
@dizman1235 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most Seth deck I've ever seen. Panharminicon, drawing all the cards, and complete jank. Well done sir!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@reves432
@reves432 4 жыл бұрын
Mechanized production: You can copy ANY artifact Seth: Today we playing 34 Panharmonicons I can't believe I didn't see this coming...
@PalPlays
@PalPlays 4 жыл бұрын
If the Grixis player is reading these comments, I just want to thank you for letting Seth play out the Panharmonicon win.
@ashheilborn
@ashheilborn 4 жыл бұрын
I love the new video formatting. Showing it working before going into the deck tech. I think that really helps to show why everything is there.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IIIJG52
@IIIJG52 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is why i subbed back in the day. LOVE IT!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@finz
@finz 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the editing!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@heywardcharles3994
@heywardcharles3994 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the new layout/editing for the video!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@UHPhilipA
@UHPhilipA 4 жыл бұрын
I have a foil budget version from a video you posted when this mechanized production card was a standard deck. Looks like I’ll update it to its full potential haha
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@UHPhilipA
@UHPhilipA 4 жыл бұрын
I always loved clues for the win 😂 now panharmonicons which I also love and adore.
@FnordKyuss
@FnordKyuss 4 жыл бұрын
Seth! This is the most satisfying video you've ever made. I don't know how you top this?
@SmokeADig
@SmokeADig 4 жыл бұрын
I dig the intro formatting 👍
@sireklz1169
@sireklz1169 4 жыл бұрын
Never enough Panharmonicons! Love it!
@margibso
@margibso 4 жыл бұрын
25:02 As long as he doesn't exile two lands you could have used Clever Impersonator on the Ulamog to buy time. I'm not saying its a guaranteed out, but their are draws where you might have gotten out from under it.
@brandonbagley795
@brandonbagley795 4 жыл бұрын
I really hate seeing the combo and parts of the gameplay beforehand. I fast-forwarded through the beginning, and then you snuck in another clip in the middle of the deck tech.
@Humatra
@Humatra 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda like it 🤭
@jebooiii6462
@jebooiii6462 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kinda wish he would stop doing that. Don’t know why they started that. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Like ‘hey, here’s the middle of the movie in the previews...makes sense right?’ No...not really.
@GrandGobboBarb
@GrandGobboBarb 4 жыл бұрын
yeah. it kinda makes me uninterested in watching the videos
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. We're trying to figure out some things with the deck tech and trying different stuff. I'll keep the feedback in mind for sure :)
@francescogulisano2917
@francescogulisano2917 4 жыл бұрын
7 clues on the field, Seth puts mech pro on panharmonicon. I don't know whether to admire the dedication or shake my head at the folly
@JoshuaFoy
@JoshuaFoy 4 жыл бұрын
"Definitely a meme deck" 2nd biggest understatement of the year after US coronavirus testing numbers.
@MrMoo2222
@MrMoo2222 4 жыл бұрын
I like the examples in the deck tech... but I don't want to see the sweet combos early... I'm conflicted! Love a good Panharmonicon.
@kallemon
@kallemon 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you would like a couple of the new Thassa to get some awesome end step blink.
@Afronoha
@Afronoha 4 жыл бұрын
The last win was beautiful :-)
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
It took a while, but we finally got there!
@MultiTaz333
@MultiTaz333 4 жыл бұрын
The new thassa would be a good one of in this
@Ghost26968
@Ghost26968 4 жыл бұрын
LOL I love how mechanized production creates clue token tokens on mtgo XD
@KebbieG
@KebbieG 4 жыл бұрын
What if we ran Karn MB? Run one Panharmonicon in the SB along with some other Artifact targets.
@PalPlays
@PalPlays 4 жыл бұрын
21:51 Why not Mirrormade the Mechanized Productions?
@ctomsky
@ctomsky 4 жыл бұрын
Bant Spirits seems fast with Collected Company, but it still seems just as susceptible to wraths. I think going straight UW and using Curious Obsession is just better for grinding out
@MrJerichoPumpkin
@MrJerichoPumpkin 4 жыл бұрын
don't forget staggering insight, just to double down on the real wincon
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Selfless Spirit helps against wraths, but you still might be right.
@Eheq
@Eheq 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of Prophetic Prism, I might sub in Golden Egg or Alchemist's vial. The deck is only two colors (aside from one sideboard card) and the extra help against aggro could have been significant in a few of these games.
@tadashinakano219
@tadashinakano219 4 жыл бұрын
That last guy cast the Swift End half 7 times and the Murderous Rider half 8 times so between the two he cast it 15 times
@cptawesome11
@cptawesome11 4 жыл бұрын
The new editing in the intro is great
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FnordKyuss
@FnordKyuss 4 жыл бұрын
Magic as Richard Garfield intended. Thank you Seth once again for showing off this spicy, spicy deck.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood that statement since he also intended the power 9
@FnordKyuss
@FnordKyuss 4 жыл бұрын
It just means that you're doing something within the game that is so far away from any of those original ideas.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 4 жыл бұрын
@@FnordKyuss I know what it means, what I mean is that Garfield made some of the most broken cards. The phrase implies good, clean magic but he never made anything we would recognise as sutch
@blueredlover1060
@blueredlover1060 4 жыл бұрын
Where does the green mana come from to cast Knight of Autumn? I don't see anything that produces the green required to cast it.
@Daldalusda1st
@Daldalusda1st 4 жыл бұрын
Would a single dark steel citadel be a good addition to the deck?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
I could see running one or two as a backup Mech Pro artifact.
@boogie798
@boogie798 4 жыл бұрын
Love this deck before watching the gameplay
@jeffreylooter535
@jeffreylooter535 4 жыл бұрын
The video we have all been waiting for
@nathanielnizard2163
@nathanielnizard2163 4 жыл бұрын
I hope for more Cipher cards and/or synergies. It should be an archetype, sadly when it got release they were too heavily costed, like 4 mana draw 1 :D.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Cipher will come back some day. It is a cool idea that probably could be explored more (although I don't think it was very popular the first time around).
@tims.8318
@tims.8318 4 жыл бұрын
the new deck tech editing is pretty nice!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Jamie261090
@Jamie261090 4 жыл бұрын
Deck building challenge: turn Mechanized Production into an artifact with Mycosinth Lattice, enchant it with another Mecahinzed Production, then win the game by having 8x Mechanized Production
@blank9735
@blank9735 4 жыл бұрын
@21:52 you should've made another mech pro instead of another prism cause then you'd draw 4 extra cards each turn and speed up the clock considerably
@arthurkeech
@arthurkeech 4 жыл бұрын
That grixis match was pretty great
@trewilliams383
@trewilliams383 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda wonder why Seth didn't run Agent seeing how soundly it spanked the deck. It literally could be another win condition by stealing all the opponent's stuff.
@endermeap6488
@endermeap6488 3 жыл бұрын
This deck’s curve is already so high, that’s probably why.
@lxyacht
@lxyacht 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing kills the mood like agent of treachery.
@mattduarte4914
@mattduarte4914 4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of jank i subscribe for!
@Mister_Tedious
@Mister_Tedious 4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear lord this sounds amazing.
@Mister_Tedious
@Mister_Tedious 4 жыл бұрын
Also, as if the deck isn't called "Octomonicon"??
@TheBlueAnt
@TheBlueAnt 4 жыл бұрын
43:00 you could have cast thraben inspector, mechinized production, and reflector maged their knight to put them dead on board
@CeaseTick1
@CeaseTick1 4 жыл бұрын
He was a clue short at that point
@dragaunas
@dragaunas 4 жыл бұрын
The next commander clash theme should be a intervention for seth addition to panharmonicon
@Alikaoz
@Alikaoz 4 жыл бұрын
Opponent rode murderously into the sunset
@jrvaughn9038
@jrvaughn9038 4 жыл бұрын
The 1st time I read "Masterful Replication" I thought of you Seth. You build a Panharmonicon deck full of artifacts then cast Replication and copy Panharmonicon. Make a zillion copies and win with some weird etb effect. But, this deck is that brew, I think. This seems better. Plus, Mech Pro is a fave of mine. I tried so hard to make it work in Standard back during Kaladesh. It was Esper & it was bad. Nice deck bro.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Masterful Replication does seem perfect for Panharmonicon :)
@kylerocco7467
@kylerocco7467 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make exponential panharmonicons?
@dd7896
@dd7896 4 жыл бұрын
How come there's no indication which format it is in the title anymore? Will all future content be pioneer?
@mirtul1
@mirtul1 4 жыл бұрын
33 Panharmonicons and a Siege Rhino ... do it
@animan9258
@animan9258 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if for the next against the odds would you consider showcasing a deck called Izzet Mystic for the next Against the odds video. It's a delver styled deck that looks like it might have a good shot against the meta just look for the one that has Temple of Malice and Scribe of the Mindful instead of the other one because it seems like the author made a mistake.
@KebbieG
@KebbieG 4 жыл бұрын
Should we even run Stolen Identity and Clever Imp? You SB them out almost 100% of the time. I think it might be better to run a few sweepers MB instead or more life gain.
@StevoM08
@StevoM08 4 жыл бұрын
Pft. Win with Panharmonicon like a real man. March of the Machines. :P
@naphackDT
@naphackDT 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most Seth deck I've ever seen.
@HivefleetMagoladon
@HivefleetMagoladon 4 жыл бұрын
Because Charming Prince says you can flicker a creature you OWN, not one you CONTROL, you can use it to flicker creatures that your opponents have stolen and return them to the battlefield under your control. Just want to throw that out there
@liamwood2878
@liamwood2878 4 жыл бұрын
31:00 I think you scooped too early you might have been able to crawl back in if you cast the Impersonator on their Thassa
@MrNesgamefreak
@MrNesgamefreak 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should really have mystical dispute in the sideboard, it hits a huge amount of the meta
@Shuvinile
@Shuvinile 4 жыл бұрын
In times such as these, I think a fun, janky infect against the odds episode would be cool.
@goldcobraarima9819
@goldcobraarima9819 4 жыл бұрын
That Deck looks very cool, you should play it in the tournament stream in saturday :)
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure making eight Panharmonicons is quite tournament worthy :)
@KebbieG
@KebbieG 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't we run Agent of Treachery?
@madboywhiteboy1160
@madboywhiteboy1160 4 жыл бұрын
At 25:00 you could have copied his nissa or ulamog with clever impersonator, might have helped
@iwatcher69
@iwatcher69 4 жыл бұрын
Is this card still banded?
@jonathanperigo6853
@jonathanperigo6853 4 жыл бұрын
In the last match when you played mechanized production on panharminocon, you could have won by blinking the thraben rather than playing the reflector mage. Even if your mechpro is on panharmonicon, having 8 clues on your upkeep still wins!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
But eight Panharmonicons!!!!
@jonathanperigo6853
@jonathanperigo6853 4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish you got me there. Can't argue with that.
@pmf98
@pmf98 4 жыл бұрын
Only one thing can surpass this: 34 PANHARMONICONS!!!
@TinedAlarm
@TinedAlarm 4 жыл бұрын
48:37 *plays a temple of enlightenment* “Castle Lochwain” Seth pls
@bryantan4228
@bryantan4228 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, Mechanized Production clues seems like it would work. Tireless Tracker, Thraben Inspector, lots of good stuff
@fo-ef8qo
@fo-ef8qo 4 жыл бұрын
Woe that top decking against spirits. It's good to see that the magic God have forgotten about that time you BM"d your opponent by timing yourself out instead of attacking with a giant karnstruck and winning.
@abrahamrokhsar9119
@abrahamrokhsar9119 4 жыл бұрын
why not arcums astrolabe, it is 1 cheaper than prophetic prism and would speed this deck up a bit
@jasondavsi7143
@jasondavsi7143 4 жыл бұрын
How about thassa oracles?
@gavinyoung8084
@gavinyoung8084 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone have the sultai ramp list?
@Dekadin2
@Dekadin2 4 жыл бұрын
Seth WHY didnt you bring in the Damping Spheres against ramp?
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing it really does is make nissa funny
@NMS127
@NMS127 4 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 It doesn't even do that. Nissa adds the mana, so the lands are still only tapping for one.
@jonathana6298
@jonathana6298 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this deck needs Agent of Treachery.
@someweirddog868
@someweirddog868 4 жыл бұрын
Should make the 34 siege rhino in pioneer, with panharmonicon!
@benjamintaylor6878
@benjamintaylor6878 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Damping Sphere would have been great against the ramp deck
@stevekeenan9673
@stevekeenan9673 4 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace vs tormods crypt. It would be another artifact target.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
I think Rest in Peace is good enough (and the odds of us wanting to put Mechanized Production on Tormod's Crypt are low enough) that it's probably the right choice for the sideboard.
@zachgray4767
@zachgray4767 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Panharmonicon, I click Like.
@Beam_on_team
@Beam_on_team 4 жыл бұрын
8 Panharmonicons. Seth is going to deck himself isn't he
@babassoonist557
@babassoonist557 4 жыл бұрын
Ah finally an 8 Pan to go with my 8 Rack
@joserene-t5z
@joserene-t5z 4 жыл бұрын
Seth have you considered Paradox Haze to go with MechPro?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly it isn't in Pioneer (although it might be worth considering in Modern).
@musicmarbless
@musicmarbless 4 жыл бұрын
Why not astrolabe instead of prophetic prism
@endermeap6488
@endermeap6488 4 жыл бұрын
Stolen identity seems like it would be better as another clever impersonator or cavalier of dawn. You cut it literally every match
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, being another Clever Impersonator is probably correct actually. Good point.
@NessaMeowMeow
@NessaMeowMeow 4 жыл бұрын
Seth playing panharmonicon❤
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