you could have fit siege rhino into this deck if you really tried
@MstrKipper4 жыл бұрын
He even had the prison to mana fix
@erfunk4 жыл бұрын
Grixis opponent's interaction stats... Swift End: 7 Murderous Rider: 8 (ran one out early with no targets to kill.) Thoughtseize: 3 Thought Erasure: 2 Fatal Push: 2 Terminate: 1 Languish: 1 Bolas: 1 And they had a bounced Rider in hand at game's end, because they were limited by Seth's creatures. The only other cards they ever saw were lands and a JVP they surveiled away on turn 3.
@JackPowerX4 жыл бұрын
Question: Why not add Darksteel Citadel as a Production target? Since the wincon is for any artifact rather than just the enchanted one, putting Production on an indestructible "free" artifact reduces the chances of a two-for-one and/or your oppo ruining your day with a random artifact destruction spell. Also has the side effect of being semi-ramp-ish.
@Humatra4 жыл бұрын
What are you? Some kinda genius?!
@smartkaboose38064 жыл бұрын
Aw man now I wish seth played this version instead
@x83_t76Y4 жыл бұрын
A redo is in order
@Tyubirocks14 жыл бұрын
Not pioneer legal.
@JackPowerX4 жыл бұрын
@@Tyubirocks1 M15
@joserene-t5z4 жыл бұрын
This against the odds is suppoesd to be about Mechanize Production. But seth made it about Panharmonicon
@brandonheselton68724 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Mechanized Production deck in pioneer would seem pretty cool. Seth: Today we have a panharmoni..... I mean Mechanized Production deck
@ArchbardWava4 жыл бұрын
I was about to sleep but a title like this is just unignorable. Here we go!
@minebattle56794 жыл бұрын
Same
@bottlingsho54314 жыл бұрын
Sleep is for the weak
@NatesiKness4 жыл бұрын
Lavinia: Comes down on turn 4-5 Safron Olive: *good against aggro decks*
@Diotialate4 жыл бұрын
Colonel Mustard, in the ballroom, with the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench and the wrench. Good game.
@danlewis77074 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Wall of amazing. Lol.
@Auriorium4 жыл бұрын
Its morning. The Quarantine is till in effect. And I have a coffee mug in my hand and watching an 8 Panharmonicon deck. This is the life.
@absolutfx4 жыл бұрын
Was literally thinking yesterday it's been a long time since we've seen Panharmonicon. Never change Seth, never change.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
It's back!
@dweebyphoebe30334 жыл бұрын
The choice to splice the footage of gameplay examples into the deck tech was absolutely perfect. Great way to break the monotony and stagnation of deck techs. A+
@Uzotrups4 жыл бұрын
uhhh, those nice deck tech edits showing the card in game... chef's kiss
@abe10alpha4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to put mechanized production on the clue to win with 8 clue tokens.
@joserene-t5z4 жыл бұрын
It's to assert dominance
@abe10alpha4 жыл бұрын
Jose Rene Ticsay best reply ever 😂😂😂
@DavyMcWavy4 жыл бұрын
Jose Rene Ticsay YES! Reminds me of my turn 1 gilded goose, turn 2 swing for 0. Yes, I could’ve made another food token but the disrespect swing is too good.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
We can sac the clue if our opponent tries to steal it though!
@kimdron2564 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish If they steal it the enchantment will fall off, it has to enchant an artifact you control. Even if it didn't you would still get the copies from Mech Pro
@kevinciccoli70524 жыл бұрын
I really dig the visual examples during the deck tech. Keep up the good work. 🖒
@brendanerickson23634 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the production of these video! And this deck is sweet
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Magnivore5194 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Whoosh
@johnroyston38594 жыл бұрын
Us: "Just how many panharmonicons do you need to win Seth?" Seth: "YES"
@N1ghthavvk4 жыл бұрын
Seth: "YES. YES! YES! IT CAN HAPPEN!"
@abelexclusa98564 жыл бұрын
You frigging mad man, you finally went and lived the dream! Good on you!
@AfterHoursRacing074 жыл бұрын
Against bant, I think it would have been better to reflector mage the agent instead of verdicting. Plays around them having another agent. They had the knight so it wouldn't have mattered but it forces them to have it.
@geegnomes4 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, I like that you're switching up the editing with the cliffhanger starts. Feels like it could use some musical or sound cue to lead into your deck intro. This is what draws me into every god damn arena boys video.
@DarthTUK4 жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't put the final game in the preview at the beginning of the video. I don't like those previews - half of the fun is finding out if you eventually pull off the "against the odds" finish. I appreciate it even more when you edit them to the end so it's a perfect closure for the whole video - makes me go "he did it, what an absolute mad man..." or something in that sense. I love the jank. I love it when it wins in it's janky way and you KNOW that opponent is either crushed and debates quitting magic right there after losing to the pile of cards you bring in and/or they are equally impressed and befuddled at what just happened to them. I still think about that one opponent you crushed with Ajani and Timestream Navigator. You are the best Seth
@STCWGaming4 жыл бұрын
If I ever see Seth (PBKASO) I will try to get him to sign my foil panharmonicon.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to!
@dizman12354 жыл бұрын
This is the most Seth deck I've ever seen. Panharminicon, drawing all the cards, and complete jank. Well done sir!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@reves4324 жыл бұрын
Mechanized production: You can copy ANY artifact Seth: Today we playing 34 Panharmonicons I can't believe I didn't see this coming...
@PalPlays4 жыл бұрын
If the Grixis player is reading these comments, I just want to thank you for letting Seth play out the Panharmonicon win.
@ashheilborn4 жыл бұрын
I love the new video formatting. Showing it working before going into the deck tech. I think that really helps to show why everything is there.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IIIJG524 жыл бұрын
This stuff is why i subbed back in the day. LOVE IT!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@finz4 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the editing!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@heywardcharles39944 жыл бұрын
Loving the new layout/editing for the video!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@UHPhilipA4 жыл бұрын
I have a foil budget version from a video you posted when this mechanized production card was a standard deck. Looks like I’ll update it to its full potential haha
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@UHPhilipA4 жыл бұрын
I always loved clues for the win 😂 now panharmonicons which I also love and adore.
@FnordKyuss4 жыл бұрын
Seth! This is the most satisfying video you've ever made. I don't know how you top this?
@SmokeADig4 жыл бұрын
I dig the intro formatting 👍
@sireklz11694 жыл бұрын
Never enough Panharmonicons! Love it!
@margibso4 жыл бұрын
25:02 As long as he doesn't exile two lands you could have used Clever Impersonator on the Ulamog to buy time. I'm not saying its a guaranteed out, but their are draws where you might have gotten out from under it.
@brandonbagley7954 жыл бұрын
I really hate seeing the combo and parts of the gameplay beforehand. I fast-forwarded through the beginning, and then you snuck in another clip in the middle of the deck tech.
@Humatra4 жыл бұрын
I kinda like it 🤭
@jebooiii64624 жыл бұрын
I agree
@CyberNewType4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kinda wish he would stop doing that. Don’t know why they started that. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Like ‘hey, here’s the middle of the movie in the previews...makes sense right?’ No...not really.
@GrandGobboBarb4 жыл бұрын
yeah. it kinda makes me uninterested in watching the videos
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. We're trying to figure out some things with the deck tech and trying different stuff. I'll keep the feedback in mind for sure :)
@francescogulisano29174 жыл бұрын
7 clues on the field, Seth puts mech pro on panharmonicon. I don't know whether to admire the dedication or shake my head at the folly
@JoshuaFoy4 жыл бұрын
"Definitely a meme deck" 2nd biggest understatement of the year after US coronavirus testing numbers.
@MrMoo22224 жыл бұрын
I like the examples in the deck tech... but I don't want to see the sweet combos early... I'm conflicted! Love a good Panharmonicon.
@kallemon4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you would like a couple of the new Thassa to get some awesome end step blink.
@Afronoha4 жыл бұрын
The last win was beautiful :-)
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
It took a while, but we finally got there!
@MultiTaz3334 жыл бұрын
The new thassa would be a good one of in this
@Ghost269684 жыл бұрын
LOL I love how mechanized production creates clue token tokens on mtgo XD
@KebbieG4 жыл бұрын
What if we ran Karn MB? Run one Panharmonicon in the SB along with some other Artifact targets.
@PalPlays4 жыл бұрын
21:51 Why not Mirrormade the Mechanized Productions?
@ctomsky4 жыл бұрын
Bant Spirits seems fast with Collected Company, but it still seems just as susceptible to wraths. I think going straight UW and using Curious Obsession is just better for grinding out
@MrJerichoPumpkin4 жыл бұрын
don't forget staggering insight, just to double down on the real wincon
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Selfless Spirit helps against wraths, but you still might be right.
@Eheq4 жыл бұрын
Instead of Prophetic Prism, I might sub in Golden Egg or Alchemist's vial. The deck is only two colors (aside from one sideboard card) and the extra help against aggro could have been significant in a few of these games.
@tadashinakano2194 жыл бұрын
That last guy cast the Swift End half 7 times and the Murderous Rider half 8 times so between the two he cast it 15 times
@cptawesome114 жыл бұрын
The new editing in the intro is great
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FnordKyuss4 жыл бұрын
Magic as Richard Garfield intended. Thank you Seth once again for showing off this spicy, spicy deck.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche43034 жыл бұрын
I never understood that statement since he also intended the power 9
@FnordKyuss4 жыл бұрын
It just means that you're doing something within the game that is so far away from any of those original ideas.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche43034 жыл бұрын
@@FnordKyuss I know what it means, what I mean is that Garfield made some of the most broken cards. The phrase implies good, clean magic but he never made anything we would recognise as sutch
@blueredlover10604 жыл бұрын
Where does the green mana come from to cast Knight of Autumn? I don't see anything that produces the green required to cast it.
@Daldalusda1st4 жыл бұрын
Would a single dark steel citadel be a good addition to the deck?
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
I could see running one or two as a backup Mech Pro artifact.
@boogie7984 жыл бұрын
Love this deck before watching the gameplay
@jeffreylooter5354 жыл бұрын
The video we have all been waiting for
@nathanielnizard21634 жыл бұрын
I hope for more Cipher cards and/or synergies. It should be an archetype, sadly when it got release they were too heavily costed, like 4 mana draw 1 :D.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Cipher will come back some day. It is a cool idea that probably could be explored more (although I don't think it was very popular the first time around).
@tims.83184 жыл бұрын
the new deck tech editing is pretty nice!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Jamie2610904 жыл бұрын
Deck building challenge: turn Mechanized Production into an artifact with Mycosinth Lattice, enchant it with another Mecahinzed Production, then win the game by having 8x Mechanized Production
@blank97354 жыл бұрын
@21:52 you should've made another mech pro instead of another prism cause then you'd draw 4 extra cards each turn and speed up the clock considerably
@arthurkeech4 жыл бұрын
That grixis match was pretty great
@trewilliams3834 жыл бұрын
I kinda wonder why Seth didn't run Agent seeing how soundly it spanked the deck. It literally could be another win condition by stealing all the opponent's stuff.
@endermeap64883 жыл бұрын
This deck’s curve is already so high, that’s probably why.
@lxyacht4 жыл бұрын
Nothing kills the mood like agent of treachery.
@mattduarte49144 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of jank i subscribe for!
@Mister_Tedious4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear lord this sounds amazing.
@Mister_Tedious4 жыл бұрын
Also, as if the deck isn't called "Octomonicon"??
@TheBlueAnt4 жыл бұрын
43:00 you could have cast thraben inspector, mechinized production, and reflector maged their knight to put them dead on board
@CeaseTick14 жыл бұрын
He was a clue short at that point
@dragaunas4 жыл бұрын
The next commander clash theme should be a intervention for seth addition to panharmonicon
@Alikaoz4 жыл бұрын
Opponent rode murderously into the sunset
@jrvaughn90384 жыл бұрын
The 1st time I read "Masterful Replication" I thought of you Seth. You build a Panharmonicon deck full of artifacts then cast Replication and copy Panharmonicon. Make a zillion copies and win with some weird etb effect. But, this deck is that brew, I think. This seems better. Plus, Mech Pro is a fave of mine. I tried so hard to make it work in Standard back during Kaladesh. It was Esper & it was bad. Nice deck bro.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Masterful Replication does seem perfect for Panharmonicon :)
@kylerocco74674 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make exponential panharmonicons?
@dd78964 жыл бұрын
How come there's no indication which format it is in the title anymore? Will all future content be pioneer?
@mirtul14 жыл бұрын
33 Panharmonicons and a Siege Rhino ... do it
@animan92584 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if for the next against the odds would you consider showcasing a deck called Izzet Mystic for the next Against the odds video. It's a delver styled deck that looks like it might have a good shot against the meta just look for the one that has Temple of Malice and Scribe of the Mindful instead of the other one because it seems like the author made a mistake.
@KebbieG4 жыл бұрын
Should we even run Stolen Identity and Clever Imp? You SB them out almost 100% of the time. I think it might be better to run a few sweepers MB instead or more life gain.
@StevoM084 жыл бұрын
Pft. Win with Panharmonicon like a real man. March of the Machines. :P
@naphackDT4 жыл бұрын
This is the most Seth deck I've ever seen.
@HivefleetMagoladon4 жыл бұрын
Because Charming Prince says you can flicker a creature you OWN, not one you CONTROL, you can use it to flicker creatures that your opponents have stolen and return them to the battlefield under your control. Just want to throw that out there
@liamwood28784 жыл бұрын
31:00 I think you scooped too early you might have been able to crawl back in if you cast the Impersonator on their Thassa
@MrNesgamefreak4 жыл бұрын
I think you should really have mystical dispute in the sideboard, it hits a huge amount of the meta
@Shuvinile4 жыл бұрын
In times such as these, I think a fun, janky infect against the odds episode would be cool.
@goldcobraarima98194 жыл бұрын
That Deck looks very cool, you should play it in the tournament stream in saturday :)
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure making eight Panharmonicons is quite tournament worthy :)
@KebbieG4 жыл бұрын
Why don't we run Agent of Treachery?
@madboywhiteboy11604 жыл бұрын
At 25:00 you could have copied his nissa or ulamog with clever impersonator, might have helped
@iwatcher694 жыл бұрын
Is this card still banded?
@jonathanperigo68534 жыл бұрын
In the last match when you played mechanized production on panharminocon, you could have won by blinking the thraben rather than playing the reflector mage. Even if your mechpro is on panharmonicon, having 8 clues on your upkeep still wins!
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
But eight Panharmonicons!!!!
@jonathanperigo68534 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish you got me there. Can't argue with that.
@pmf984 жыл бұрын
Only one thing can surpass this: 34 PANHARMONICONS!!!
@TinedAlarm4 жыл бұрын
48:37 *plays a temple of enlightenment* “Castle Lochwain” Seth pls
@bryantan42284 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, Mechanized Production clues seems like it would work. Tireless Tracker, Thraben Inspector, lots of good stuff
@fo-ef8qo4 жыл бұрын
Woe that top decking against spirits. It's good to see that the magic God have forgotten about that time you BM"d your opponent by timing yourself out instead of attacking with a giant karnstruck and winning.
@abrahamrokhsar91194 жыл бұрын
why not arcums astrolabe, it is 1 cheaper than prophetic prism and would speed this deck up a bit
@jasondavsi71434 жыл бұрын
How about thassa oracles?
@gavinyoung80844 жыл бұрын
Anyone have the sultai ramp list?
@Dekadin24 жыл бұрын
Seth WHY didnt you bring in the Damping Spheres against ramp?
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche43034 жыл бұрын
Only thing it really does is make nissa funny
@NMS1274 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 It doesn't even do that. Nissa adds the mana, so the lands are still only tapping for one.
@jonathana62984 жыл бұрын
I feel like this deck needs Agent of Treachery.
@someweirddog8684 жыл бұрын
Should make the 34 siege rhino in pioneer, with panharmonicon!
@benjamintaylor68784 жыл бұрын
Man, Damping Sphere would have been great against the ramp deck
@stevekeenan96734 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace vs tormods crypt. It would be another artifact target.
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
I think Rest in Peace is good enough (and the odds of us wanting to put Mechanized Production on Tormod's Crypt are low enough) that it's probably the right choice for the sideboard.
@zachgray47674 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Panharmonicon, I click Like.
@Beam_on_team4 жыл бұрын
8 Panharmonicons. Seth is going to deck himself isn't he
@babassoonist5574 жыл бұрын
Ah finally an 8 Pan to go with my 8 Rack
@joserene-t5z4 жыл бұрын
Seth have you considered Paradox Haze to go with MechPro?
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Sadly it isn't in Pioneer (although it might be worth considering in Modern).
@musicmarbless4 жыл бұрын
Why not astrolabe instead of prophetic prism
@endermeap64884 жыл бұрын
Stolen identity seems like it would be better as another clever impersonator or cavalier of dawn. You cut it literally every match
@MTGGoldfish4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, being another Clever Impersonator is probably correct actually. Good point.