8 SITUATIONS NOT TO USE DIFF LOCKERS

[@tomgrimont5062]

Great video! Do more with air lockers, e lockers, and auto lockers. Keep up the good work.

[@pat9125]

Wanted to let you know that between you and Robert Pepper you've literally saved my life with your information on winching and safety. All your other content has made me a better more well rounded off roader and I truly appreciate you and your content. Thank you

[@lukebrady3728]

Same here !

[@joanhuggett5164]

That classic 'look' from Ronny on the Flinders, love it. Your teaching videos are awesome, the explanations with visuals plus years of experience make it a 4x4 educational blast.

[@syntheticjuice9279]

one other thing to keep in mind in an open diff, if one tire is stuck and the other is free spinning, the free spinning tire can spin up to 2x faster than it would in a normal situation vs what ur speedo reports cause the way open diff works. if that spinning tire suddenly catches, thats more shock load than you might expect.

[@BorisEkner]

As a guy on a budget the auto-locker is what I have, front and rear in my 2022 Jimny. Yes, I had to learn to drive the car again but after less than three months it became all natural to me and I’m very happy with what I have. No regrets what so ever!

[@Olive-oilien]

I didn’t think there was much more I could learn on this topic but I stand corrected. Thank you!

[@4G12]

So the ultimate solution is to keep all lockers on all the time and negotiate every turn via 4 wheel drifting...

[@observingrogue7652]

You can also overbuild your drivetrain. While he was talking about stuff breaking, I was wondering. What if you use parts meant for a truck twice it's weight or something? Like that abomination pick up truck body on a semi truck frame, Ford F650.

[@k53847]

@@observingrogue7652 Stress will eventually break something. What will fail first? Is that more expensive than what you reinforced? For example, your axle is fine but the transmission grenades because that was the weakest point?

[@observingrogue7652]

@@k53847 True.

[@rmcnabb]

@@observingrogue7652 Weight, installation costs, fuel costs, difficulty of sourcing parts, the danger of "this thing is unbreakable!" which is always a death sentence.

[@dirkfrazier9779]

I like this guys line of thought- side ways!

[@jupyder4838]

Very informative, thank you! My vehicle has a rear locker and I havent had to use it yet, but this really helped me understand that there is definitely a wrong and right place to use it. Cheers

[@chrisfanchier2318]

Great information to help others that are new to the 4WD Scene!! Even I had trouble explaining when and when not to use and this helps a lot!! I would also like to see a deep dive video of different locker types against each other

[@harrywalker968]

use lockers all the time. but not with 10,000 revs as ronny did.. best lockers are ones you dont fk with.. like detroit, or lunchbox.. e lockers & air, brake, as they have dangling parts & subject to heat.. cant beat yank sht.. if you have to turn your locker off to turn,,you got the wrong 4x4.. great information,,heres some,, join a registered club,,with trainers..

[@chrisfanchier2318]

@@harrywalker968 clearly you don't know what you are talking about. A Detroit Locker is really just a Limited Slip type Differential that Mechanically locks under the right conditions if lucky. A lunch box locker is simply a cheap box that barely puts pressure on the axles. Both an E-Locker and Air Locker have a simple mechanism that will engage when either a Coil is Energized or air pressure is applied. Can these fail? To an extent yes, but usually it's the simple stuff that is able to be replaced. Also if you feel that you have a problem by having to turn a locker off to turn then you don't understand how the drivetrains operate on vehicles.

[@craigparker4108]

Yes Ronny i would love to see a deep dive into all the different types of Lockers & their pros & cons, thanks.

[@trickster8635]

I think you mean how all the different operating mechanism work? Air pressure vs vacuum vs electric vs mechanical? Or do you mean front vs rear pros and cons?

[@craigparker4108]

Air pressure vs vacuum vs electric vs mechanical for Reliability, durability, bank for buck etc. @@trickster8635

[@elmigwar]

Thank you for the great video. Appreciate sharing a video with tips for 4x4 vehicles that do not have lockers and everything is manual, like for old land cruisers . Many thanks.

[@Ghostrider-71]

Excellent explanation and synopsis. Thank you for posting.

[@TLC150]

Great video, with good tips! Greetings from Germany! I drive an 80 Series Land Cruiser in forestry and hard offroad and will remember when to use which locker 👍

[@noahk3976]

Mate, I love your videos even though I don't do four-wheel driving and don't own a 4wheeler but one day I will! You seem like a real gentleman and a genuine man. Thanks and keep'em coming!

[@TilakRajVerma]

A great video, Ronny! Lots of useful information, do's and don't of using diff lock. Nicely presented. I have a question: what if we don't have manual control or don't have diff locks in the vehicle. E.g. Suzuki Jimny 4x4 setup, will this be possible for you to make a quick 3-5 minutes video on do's and don't or how to efficiently use Jimny 4x4 without breaking anything. I don't have the luxury to have these trucks but I drive Jimny. One quick video will help me or many others a lot. Thanks again mate ❤

[@rissoleroostar2953]

Yes please mate, I would love to work out what would best suit my needs regarding lockers, and having the differences and pros/cons explained like you did with the campers. I enjoy your videos and look forward to more mate. Keep up the good work. Stay off road

[@benjaminnissen7977]

Good video. Thanks for sharing it clear and simple. All makes sense and could save a lot of drama. Hard pill to swallow eventually if you’re not wanting to go with this advice Keep it up, good job 👍

[@glennenglish6583]

Brilliant video thanks - I feel I have a much better grasp of when & when not to use my lockers.

[@dixonbuttes6564]

Great video. And the talk about differentials and high traction surfaces is another point of data to support the need for the old 2L feature ... it used to be available on some vehicles, and disappeared. On rock surfaces where all 4 wheels aren't needed, 2L would be a godsend.

[@stpOwner]

They need to bring back 2L great for reversing trailers up steep driveways

[@tahosrfr]

Yes would love to see a deep dive on diff locker types. Keep up the great work!

[@nyausyaoc7207]

Another great video legend. Please do a deep dive into all the diffrent types of diff lockers.

[@trickster8635]

already been done - do a search

[@UnPetitPique]

Thanks Ronny, I wasn't sure if I should watch as I don't have lockers yet but super helpful. You explain things very well.

[@ZCAT-Dubai]

One of the best Videos on You Tube!!! Well done

[@nirfz]

Very informative. Looking at how "brutal" electronic traction controlsystems in modern awd vechicles act, i always thought that that shockloads and stresses the driveline even more than when both wheels are locked together. (There's more seemingly sudden "stops" of a fast turning wheel, loading the stress via the diff onto the other one)

[@lefterisordoulidis1940]

Great video! Tend to not use the rear locker or think of it as a resource tool but got me out of trouble once recently on a sandy bumpy hill that tyre pressure and momentum didn’t help. Rear locker on, climbed the hill like a breeze.

[@cesara.borges9698]

This problems occour when we use automatic mechanic Lockers (Kaiser type) or Limited Displacement Slip (LDS) in both Axles??? Excellent Video👏👏👏!!!

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

Outstanding coverage of the matter.

[@replicant357]

Awesome info , thank you once again.. Buuut, I’m a silly bugger that owns an Iveco Daily 4x4, they are an AWD system…maybe in the future a remake of this but with info about those types of vehicles would be grouse… 😁 . Either way, awesome job on your uploads.

[@rodentofanger1720]

This was a great video. I would really like to learn the differences between say ARB and my factory Nissan rear E-Locker. I am absorbing as much info as I can so I can better tour the USA. Cheers!

[@hmaldonado77]

Hello mate! Here from the states. I wanted to comment on using the rear lockers in high speed. I currently own a ford Bronco with 35” tires and front and rear lockers. My Bronco allows me to travel at very high speeds in Baja mode. Great video!

[@oxidize99]

Great video and on-point. Thanks for sharing.

[@ryanviquiera1406]

Very informative and helpful! Thanks.

[@gregbrown5473]

Nice one Ronny as you know you do learn from mistakes experiences and you have plenty would, love to here more about the different type of lockers good and bad points cheers man 👍

[@bamafencer12]

Thanks Ronny! This was a very very good and education episode.

[@superwag634]

I have ARB lockers front and rear on my 80 landcruiser diesel I’ve owned for 20+ years since I was a teenager when I bought it. I’ve broken three rear diff centres (once was the air locker bolts) and one front. But that’s in Victorian high country. I also have a PTO winch running from gearbox. Good set up. But you’re right, and one thing I know for sure, never reverse up hill with a locked front diff. The rest of the time, I hardly ever get stuck. Especially when I put front and rear chains on in snow season and lock both diffs. Cool info. Many people are totally ignorant and wonder why they always get stuck and cannot follow my path 😅

[@rogerclift2705]

Would love to see a more in depth video on lockers. I have heard that if you have a Patrol, go front because their rear LSD is so good. If you have a Cruiser, go rear. I have a 105 so I get could flex out of the front. Things like this I’d be really keen to know more about.

[@harrywalker968]

front locker first,,it pulls you thru, rears get bogged, try pushing then pulling something.. lockers,,detroit or lunchbox in the front, if,,, you have hubs..

[@alexm.3790]

Brother your editing for the video was pretty good. Just wanted to say that. Thanks.

[@benjaminwilliams3568]

GREAT Great Video. I admit I learned a lot from this very well done video. ❤🎉🎉 Thank you for the amount of work that went into making this Professional grade informative video.

[@samjohnson9894]

Great animations and explanations! Best I've seen explaining what a differential does and how it operates in 'open mode'. (grasshopper speak) Also what lockers do and how they 'level up' the 'mod'. (again) 100% agree. Tho will say that full-time rigs (80series for example) and 'part-time' or AWD rigs can be operated differently still. That'd be a good video if you could wrastle up the rigs to demo for it.

[@joseojea565]

Old video but very interesting and informative, thanks!

[@adrianzbaeren]

I love the 4x4 system of the Mercedes G-Wagon. I drive these cars in the swiss army on and off road. The nice thing on these cars is that they have permanent all wheel drive. You can drive these cars with open diffs on snowy roads up hill with alot of traction and controll (not just RWD). Then when you go offroad, you can engage center locker, rear locker and front locker. The transfer case is also two speed with a low range for creeping really slowly over obstacles. I love driving the G‘s and I am constantly looking im the internet for a „less expensive“ one to buy. Thanks for your Videos! I love watching them.

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

Plenty other modern SUVs work exactly like that. Full-time AWD on roads, Centre-locked 4WD off-roads. LC150 Prado for 1 third of price of G.

[@adrianzbaeren]

@@user-yl9vs9eh1w Yes that‘s right. Most SUVs have AWD but not „real“ 4x4 with all the lockers and two speed transfer case. The G has kind of the best of both worlds, but costs an awfull lot… I like the Prado. Here in switzerland the Prado costs 50k CHF in the lowest 3 door trim with the 2.8 Diesel engine.

[@odysseyusa]

Great advice. It’s confirming my thoughts have been spot on.

[@nicopostigo123]

Great video man! I'd like to see others about the different types 👍🏻

[@leighsdsc9340]

Top vid mate. A long time ago I put an auto locca in the front diff of my 2002 hilux. Wasn't much info about any locca back then. I figured I had LSD in the back and the ifs was limited travel. Still does me good with limited height and articulation also I didn't have as much weight as what every one is carrying now

[@somewheresalty]

Best tutorial info I’ve found on lockers!

[@JTuggy_MissionFrmGlobalMargins]

I always manage to learn something new from you, thanks! Lockers comparison video please, if possible including cable lockers! Majority opinion seems to favor air lockers (like arb) over e-lockers (like harrop), I hear that they engage more quickly, are (maybe?) stronger, don't disengage on rollback, etc. But I really, really dislike the idea of airlines running the length of my chassis. So many places to spring a leak! Diagnosing n repair would terrible on the trail, seems to me! And I have a nice portable air compressor that I like to throw in the back for 4x4ing, n take out the rest of the time when using my kzj78 as my daily driver. So I lean towards elocker, since mine does not have factory locker. But i live in Africa and I love simplicity! What about a cable locker? I see virtually NO reviews, bug 8m the kinda of guy would is open to that option, if they are any good - simplicity is a beautiful.thing!

[@JTuggy_MissionFrmGlobalMargins]

And, I can only afford one. I don't generally do serious uphill rock crawllng, but do come across deeper water crossing and sand/mud and traction issues, with some wheel lifts. Am thinking if only one, go for the rear?

[@harrywalker968]

only lockers to buy, are detroit, or lunchbox.. detroit lock up under pressure, or there then like an lsd normally.. lunch box, good for front diff, if you have hubs.. e lockers, air, lockers, have cables hanging in the air to get ripped off.. & they fail internally..

[@MuddyRuttzz]

Totally awesome Mate! I learned a lot! Did not really know the finer points of lockers. We have front and rear on our Gladiator Ecodiesel.

[@Juan0481]

New to 4wheeling and new sub here. This video was very helpful. Thanks!

[@theborednerds]

This was great, Ronny. What do you think about adding a rear air locker to a rwd vehicle? Worth it? I hear a lot of poeple say a 2wd vehicle with a rear locker will go 98% of the places a 4wd will go, but for me, it's about getting out of sticky situations (muddy mountain roads and sandy beaches).

[@normanmazlin6741]

I have installed an e locker in my Toyota slwb 2wd campervan. It's been a life saver, keeping me from bogging when off the hard surfaces. It's not infallible though and i also carry a winch which i can fit front or rear to get me out of bad bogs. Also chains and mud boards. Who needs 4wd??😂😂

[@CHMernerner]

Defending on the locker with 2wd vehicles to do 4wd stuff is Just dangerous. because you can't get out if you stuck unlike when 4wd with rear locker got stuck, there are not enough ways to get enough traction and right weight distribution. lockers are safety device!

[@Momchi_Cvetkov]

Hey, love the argumented approach to everything in this channel. And if you plan on visiting USA I think everyone would love to watch a desert sand competition in Utah between you and MORR team. 4 years ago when i started watching your channel i got that idea and just wanted to share it already :D

[@NICUofficial]

"ALWAYS use Rear Locker down (a steep) hill, NEVER use Front Locker downhill" "Lockers are for SLOW and CONTROLLED driving ONLY" "NEVER use a Front Locker with full steering lock; even better, don't use past half-lock" writing it down to help me remember (hopefully)

[@fchrisb804]

This was so helpful! Thanks so much!

[@krh007]

Excellent video. I have rear Harrop E locker in the 07 Prado 120 V6 and its handy on the beach/sand tracks. Thought about adding one to the front diff as well but have not made my mind up yet

[@prosunsport1]

Ronny your videos are outstanding, thank u for sharing u knowledge, Vasili South Africa

[@atypicalmotorcycle752]

Great info! Don't worry about Australian terminology. Your American brothers are here to learn the 'right' way to do and say things. I live in the mountains where 4WD is often the only way to reach the house at the end of the day. If Ronny says it's skookum, I trust it!

[@justice6480]

Most informative video yet

[@ApothecaryRdy]

Awesome video and explanation, thanks!

[@elliotkane4443]

Top notch splainin' Ronny.

[@Alsinsin]

What a great video. So many things to learn in 10 minutes. One option for a front differential is a Torsen dif. I would be very interested to have your opinion on this.

[@dudless13]

Great video Ronny. Some vnew vehicles HiLux - downhill desscent engaged, do not engage rear locker, that will turn DAC off.

[@CraigSimons]

Over here in Florida USA (sand and swamp) we try to keep the diffs unlocked as much as possible to reduce driveline stress also. We also add as much flex as possible to the suspension to keep the tires on the ground.

[@jakescot7850]

Great Video! Everyone applicable should watch this. A+

[@simonlopez6381]

Fantastic video, would love to hear the difference in the types of lockers. Looking at getting a rear locker in my 08 200 series

[@davidholyoake5767]

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[@davidholyoake5767]

A good over view of different types of lockers. I have an E locker in the rear and auto locker in the front.

[@mrpeabodythethird]

I think this will be helpful! Thank you.

[@marklaurendet1861]

Great information, please do that follow up video. Also when you do that one could you cover the use of the Prado rear and centre locker setups that some of the models come with

[@grumpydrummer8960]

Great article. Does the Traction control on other modern 4x4's work the same way.?

[@roblynch9219]

definitely do the deep dive on the types of lockers :)

[@ronalduljee3520]

Thanks. Learned a lot!

[@bquade70]

Great vids again! Lake Havasu 🌞 Az USA

[@brettquince4807]

A comparison and rating of the different types of lockers would be great Ronny. Cheers

[@trickster8635]

already done - do a search.

[@eliotspencer9212]

Great video, would be interesting to see a comparison between diff locks and atb's

[@brendonkellynz]

It's great to see Wayne back in the videos ........

[@dgiroday1]

Great content! I like the visuals.

[@kwojciech]

Great information! I always something new with your videos. Keep up the great work and it would be nice to see a video on the different type of lockers! Still trying to figure out what would be my best option.

[@trickster8635]

Going to boil down to what is available for your particular vehicle.

[@christophersaul]

Useful video, Ronny. Love the new Akubra :)

[@kristoferrayner]

Running an E locker on a 2wd truck. Just enough to get out of trouble but I don’t count on it when deciding what to get in to. I’d love to see some comparisons of what a locked 2wd can do compared to an open 4wd

[@johnstripsky8974]

Great info, never used a diff locker. Can you dive deeper into the topic. I am always keen to learn.

[@user24Jerricho]

thanks for a good informative vid, would have loved it if you had talked a little about LSD's and how they work in similer situations and thow you can tighten or loosen them depending on the type of offroading you do.

[@paulbaker7489]

Realllllly great content. Thank you! What about the Raptor’s limited slip diff locker that’s supposed to be high speed desert running?

[@barrymurphy3554]

Nice Ronny Great video Thanks heaps Cheers

[@joe_ful02]

Got any driving style tips for open diff beginners? Would love to see a video talking through obstacles

[@normanmazlin6741]

I have installed an e locker in my Toyota slwb 2wd campervan. It's been a life saver, keeping me from bogging when off the hard surfaces. It's not infallible though and i also carry a winch which i can fit front or rear to get me out of bad bogs. Also chains and mud boards. Who needs 4wd??😂😂

[@JGLEZ69]

Hi, I have a question, please help me. I have a 98 Cherokee with a Spartan in the back, the clearance is 0.133, I think it's within specifications. I used Valvoline Synpower synthetic 75w140 oil. Now, what I don't know is that it's normal that when turning, for example in a parking lot or any other turn, it makes a lot of noise and sometimes when I start straight, is this normal or what do I need to do? Please, thank you.

[@tomlobos2871]

how to break your driveline: use rear locker for drifting on the supermarket parking. cool video, always great to learn.

[@4WheelingSA]

Great video. Well put together.

[@nmda9578]

Excellent video. I’ve heard lots of people say to never put a front locker on an IFS vehicle because it will break a CV. I think the problem is that they are using them at incorrect times. I’d love to hear your thoughts on air versus E lockers.

[@nirfz]

Maybe not the perfect example, but: Audi did put self locking diffs in their quattro cars for years. (torsen diffs front middle and rear) They don't anymore, for cost and weight reasons Audi didn't have problems wiht snapped driveline parts. All of these cars had IFS and IRS, but due to the nature of it, the torsen probably only really "locked up" on snow. So when the traction wasn't sufficient and thus in the right condition for locking a diff.

[@trickster8635]

And a Torsen is not actually a locked centre. It is a torque biasing limited slip centre that still requires some resistance from from the wheel with no traction, ie, it will not carry torque across to the wheel on the ground if the other is in the air. Different animal altogether.@@nirfz

[@nirfz]

@@trickster8635 i don't think that's the case. As soon as there's too much difference betweeen the wheelspeeds it basically locks. You may want to take a look here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbMhIewgJJ0aKM

[@amyfreeze9772]

I'm looking at a 05 Sequoia 4x4 that has the center and rear locker. why center vs front? I'm not planning to use it like you do, but do plan to go to the beach and other places where a AWD won't do well.

[@stevebulach5198]

A deep dive on lockers from you would be awesome, given the detail & no BS approach you do in your vids. I personally run an auto locker front & factory vacuum locker on the rear & have done for many years with no issues, however I mainly run on clay/ mud up in Northern Rivers NSW. It would be very interesting how they all stack up against each other...........😃👍

[@harrywalker968]

in the u.s. there locked front rear allways, off road.. watch trailmater. & any other vids from u.s.. as they have been doing it for 300 yrs, as to our 3 yrs.. most all items 4x4 come from u.s. stikered made in au..or copies..

[@Bushtravellers]

Awesome vedio Ronny. Thanks

[@thfmlymn4498]

Ive got twin air lockers in my jimny. Its amazing what extra capabilities it adds.

[@jksof]

Could you please explain the advantages and disadvantages of a limited slip differential LCD? I have a Delica L400 fitted with one

[@Yhf6649]

Great informative video. Thanks

[@janfourie7590]

Nice video, I have only / mainly experience of Toyota's electrical motor actuated diff lock and have wondered about the speed compared to air lockers (or is it leakers). The Eaton mechanism is flawed in my opinion / understanding. Plus magnets should in my opinion only be on the drain plug. Another question that I have about the use of stiffer side shafts is how much are you now impact-loading the ring gear and rest of the drive line if you do not have flex. This is similar to the impact forces if you should increase your snatch rope rating and reduce stretch Or to make a ridiculous exaggeration to snatch with a chain. I have driven in mud with a Ford that engage and disengage rear diff quickly, but my cruisers are sometimes slower to engage or disengage especially under load - most probably not recommended. Steering in mud if you slide off course is so much easier and sometimes even possible if you are not engaged, but when you need traction, you need quick engaging diff locks before you lose momentum. Diff locks can cause you to lose control / steering without the ability to disengage quickly enough even at low speeds - colleagues ended on their Hilux's roof at low-low speed. thanks for your video.

[@RabidWombatz]

My Grenadier has the factory front and rear lockers, which I’ve never had before. Turning left off a beach on the run up to the big “escape dune”, I discovered the effect the front diff lock has on steering.

[@TheRealHacky]

Very well prepared that video. thx :)

[@aarongerman7857]

2 questions. 1. The slide slope. I live in CO USA lots of off camber shelf roads. Sometimes there’s a lot of loose rock. You’re saying don’t use a rear locker? My understanding is if you start to slide towards the shelf your only hope is to floor it and you need that traction no? 2. I have aftermarket air lockers on my Lexus Land Cruiser. Any reason to use a rear locker with center locked or even in AWD mode (don’t have to go down to 4 lo or lock center with air lockers) thanks!

[@brianmac001]

Enjoyed that video. What about centre lockers? Would love to hear/see more on the different types of diffs/lockers.

[@trickster8635]

A centre locker is nothing more than connecting front and rear drive together, which is exactly what happens in a part-time 4x4 when the stubby lever is pulled. Same difference.

[@Dieiamgi]

Great job on this video!

[@dualcablowlux]

great vid ronny, these videos are ur best

[@bkl8804]

Thanks Ronny! You da man.