8 Things I Didn't Like About the RV: 2019 Allegro Red

[@michaelshaffer1624]

Guess I'm late to the party but I still wanted to comment on this video because we have a 2018 RED. I have to say that AZExpert really nailed this one. We have a different floor plan but most of what he pointed out have been things that I really would like to change. The spyder system is great about half the time because it gives you a central point of control for everything in the coach. However, when you are sitting in a seat and decide you need more light, its crazy to have to get up and walk across the room to turn the light on. This happens a lot and becomes a major nuisance. Also the small showers that are further crippled by the oversized seat in the shower. I guess some folks like to sit while showering, but I suspect most do not, so you end up with half the floor space you could have had in the shower taken up by a seat you do not use. There was actually a company in Red Bay that was making a business out of cutting out these seats and reglassing the shower without it. And that microwave light is truly bright! We tape paper over it any time we have guests sleeping on the fold out. Last but not least, we have the front TV unplugged most of the time because of the remote problem. Having said all that, these problems are good ones to have compared to some issues I have experienced in previous RVs so a big thumbs up to Tiffin.

[@bobbafett1971]

I'm slowly upgrading my spyder multiplex panels in my 2018 to touch screens. I agree with one panel doing all the functions and in one spot.

[@brewswillis7294]

You have a good eye for the details, and are honest. A rarity in the RV industry today. Kudos! 👍🏻

[@AZExpert]

Thank you! 👍

[@tjnak]

So true

[@stevewhite3753]

Excellent info thanks James

[@AZExpert]

You bet

[@philw7174]

Very good points. Thank you for sharing this video. Happy trails!

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@patserra9506]

it's amazing how the windshield wiper button has not been changed for over 20 years, I have an '05 Tiffin and have the same switch. I have seen some just add a rubber grommet around it to make it a bit smoother and easier to turn on.

[@AZExpert]

thats a good idea

[@jimwickham9395]

Thank you for taking us along on your vacation. Very enjoyable

[@AZExpert]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@darrylwalker2728]

Your list was good. The accent lights on the Phaeton are separated in the ceiling. Light issues are solved in the Phaeton... 😃. USB locations are better in the Phaeton, but the same issue with the blue light. The microwave light is the worst...I agree, but a little window tint works perfect. Entry light...put the kids in a tent ⛺️😂. You already woke them up because you made coffee too! A lot of your issues are solved with the Phaeton...That’s why we bought the Phaeton...Gotta love the Tiffin though. You videos are great and I’ve learned a ton from you! Keep them coming!

[@AZExpert]

thank you very much!

[@6582rg]

AZ Expert is the most credible RV channel on UTube. Nothing can take the place of 25 years of getting your hands dirty and working on RVs of all kinds. Certainly not a big mouth and simple RV walkthrough videos. Thanks for the outstanding videos.

[@AZExpert]

Wow, thanks!

[@w.neddusharm6432]

Thumbs up on that windshield wiper switch

[@AZExpert]

who knew they were so lousy

[@PeterPedroA.Cintron-421Pc]

I agree with you with the lighting sequence on the ceiling I also agree with you on the USB by the table it makes sense having it up top or on the table itself wall hopefully if they design a new rig they can put these modifications to the new ones if they make them good looking out my friend and I'm glad that you were at least able to take some time off for yourself and your family Happy trails my brother keep up the good work when you retire you never know you might be able to open up a training school to teach people how to work on rigs and design rigs and I'm not talking about a big design I'm talking about where to put plugs and systems because you know your stuff well I'll be seeing you around my friend 🇺🇸🇵🇷👏🏼👏🏼✌🏼👍🏼🍍

[@AZExpert]

I think they did change some things

[@robhtwo]

You guys did an awesome job.

[@AZExpert]

thank you

[@matthewstrzelecki4280]

Yeah James I have the lights over my bed and the light switches have little blue lights in them when the lights go out between the TV light the little blue light for the switches it's like it's lit up like a dang Opera Hall same with the downstairs the lighting and the switch locations for things weren't thought out at all you're right mine's a 2019 Pinnacle fifth wheel I have that same issues that's funny you brought it up

[@hcrffi]

👍👍 When one of the best technician/mechanic in the country can only find 10 things negative about an RV after living in it for 2 weeks, that manufacturer made an great RV.

[@AZExpert]

We agree!

[@edwardneilander6427]

Nice that you had no major issue's but a lot of little ones.

[@AZExpert]

Yeah it was a pretty good coach

[@EconomicRefugees]

We have the same convection oven and the way we solved the bright issue was I went to a auto tint place and got a small piece of limo tint and put it over the display, we can still read it no problem and no more bright light at night !! I enjoyed watching your trip, and you went right by us !!

[@AZExpert]

I was shocked it was so bright

[@EconomicRefugees]

We replaced our original Sharp with the same one in the motorhome you were driving and if you read the Amazon reviews that was the main complaint, I went back after solving the problem and gave my fix !! I enjoy your channel because I do all my own work including engine, electrical and all the house stuff. The wife and I are in our 11th year fultiming and have a service, repair and just living fultime KZbin channel Economic Refugees RV !!

[@Chief351L]

In regard to the Teeth Shattering Bright Microwave Display…I put a piece of black tape over mine at first and then bought a little shutter that’s used for webcams that just slide left/right.

[@AZExpert]

lol, I'm glad I wasn't the only one with that problem :)

[@DavidHBurkart]

Glad to hear most of these save for the shower seat are easy fixes. Thanks James!

[@AZExpert]

No problem!

[@shanonqual759]

welcome home!

[@AZExpert]

Thank you!!

[@Recycled1]

I noticed some material flaking on the front of the passenger seat. That was an issue Tiffin had many with coaches a few years back with Flexsteel furniture. They had to replace the entire dinette in my 2014 36LA. Hopefully that doesn’t become an issue on that coach.

[@AZExpert]

oh it's definitey flexsteels/tiffins fault, I've seent that many times.

[@DonniePhipps]

You should buy. It James!!

[@AZExpert]

my wife thinks so too

[@DonniePhipps]

@@AZExpert happy wife happy life..lol

[@badgerpa9]

Our old micrawave had the same kind of display and if you turn it down then I could not read it during the day, pain in the @$$.

[@AZExpert]

seems odd manufacturers have to reinvent something not broke

[@paulshannon4576]

The person that designs the showers has never used the shower they designed. I went through my fifth wheel and added 12 volt relays so I could control the lights from a little fob.

[@AZExpert]

I agree. That's a good idea

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

Honestly if that's all someone as skilled as he is could find, I'd say it's a pretty well built and thought out coach. Glad your vacation went well and you finally got to the chance to use and enjoy something you normally only work on.

[@AZExpert]

I appreciate that!

[@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51]

I have owned my winnebago class a for 18 months now , I agree the shower taps are always to low and the lights are crap (Switch placement ) apart from that i love the old girl . Great vid as usual . Rob NSW Australia

[@AZExpert]

Totally agree

[@rnreajr9184]

Engine brake switch should be on the steering wheel, where it is always near your hand. I have the same complaint for my 2016 Silverado P/U. The light configuration issues you brought up could all be fixed by a software update, which is pretty cool, unless there is no one to make the change available... The bright blue lights are annoying, but can be quick-fixed with some semi-transparent tape to help dim them. The wiper knob can be fixed with some JB Weld and a larger knob, but yet another kludge on an otherwise refined MH. Great review on what is *still* a fantastic MH - but now I want one, so I have to blame you for that!

[@AZExpert]

thank you very much

[@ferrelx]

Its 12:27 am and I'm binge watching your videos in no particular order..as a full timer floor plan and lets call it gizmo placement is very important to me also..so your right on par with these issues..my peeves are putting the sink/stove next to the dinette or couch and I'm going to bash my beloved Winnebago..what's with the back rest of the drivers seat hitting the slide when its in..I'm 6'2 and I have to scoot the seat up once in so I can lean the back rest back..both my 99 and 05 have the same issue..any other coaches have this issue? and last is more of a concern..these touch screen control panels in newer coaches..what happens in 10 years and they move on to bigger and better and those panels are nowhere to be found when they fail..except in a salvage yard....maybe ? its not like replacing a switch 🤔

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@robertburgess6100]

I like switches also.

[@AZExpert]

I hope we go back to them

[@hillbillyrv]

Isn't it funny that many RV techs don't own RVs? I have only spent 4 nights in an RV in my life. 2 nights before I was a tech and 2 nights about 10 years ago. I borrowed a small travel trailer (from a dealer friend) for a weekend event.

[@AZExpert]

they say rv people buy boats and boat people buy rvs

[@hillbillyrv]

@@AZExpert lol

[@thomasschleis2545]

Probably why they are now dropping the seat in newer models.

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@stana2z]

Nice review. I, personally HATE the TV placement above the fireplace.

[@AZExpert]

I liked it

[@jeffpflugrath8607]

Enjoy your vids James....nice list of features designers and engineers overlook/cost cut for competitive purposes/don’t understand

[@AZExpert]

thanks

[@rockeyoliver7254]

James glad you enjoyed your vacation! Loved this doc on this tiffin! Blessings to ya!

[@AZExpert]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mruofacat]

I thought the TV part was the most ridiculous. Wondering if higher end Tiffins fix the light switch issue?

[@AZExpert]

I think the Phaetons and Buses do for sure

[@NYVET48TFW]

Good points, but as far as the exhaust brake, turn it on when you start the engine and just leave it on. It won't hurt anything and will make your brakes last much longer! I always activate my exhaust brake in my GMC Duramax every time I get in. Though GM put the switch all the way toward the passenger side of the switch bank and the adjustable pedals (that you can't use while driving) closest to the driver. Seems brains were in short supply at Tiffen and GM LOL. And all those bright lights...man...the quality looked great but the design looked rushed.

[@AZExpert]

sometimes it's nice to creep or cruise without the delay of the transmission up shifting and turbo having to spool back up

[@NYVET48TFW]

@@AZExpert moving the switch would be a good idea either way. At least it looks like it's possible...on the switch bank in my truck they're all solid state, they can't be moved, almost 3 years later and I'm still pissed that GM put that switch to the far right, leaving one you can't use while driving closest to the driver. Dumb. So, based on other comments that motorhome was a wreck?

[@davidschmidtjr3364]

I hope someone at Tiffin is watching and taking notes lol

[@AZExpert]

that would be interesting.

[@kevinf3861]

Will Tiffin or the seat manufacturer replace that defective Pleather cover on the passenger seat for you?

[@AZExpert]

I dont think so, likely it will need new covers, I dont know how they get away with it

[@markstench4470]

You guys did a wonderful job on that unit. Can't really tell it was a wreck. My compliments to you .

[@AZExpert]

thank you

[@farcohollis1369]

Loved following along btw!👍🏻

[@AZExpert]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@clarencewiles963]

The shower is a issue I think you’re most likely to find a solution for 😊

[@AJ-hm5ck]

I have a 2016 Tiffin 31 SA Open Road. Are there a few changes I would make....sure.....but everything works. Of course I did a ton of research before I purchased my Tiffin.

[@AZExpert]

I really do like Tiffins the most

[@michaelwaller6093]

Interesting comments. We just traded a 2019 Tiffin 32SA gasser in for a 2017 Tiffin Red 33AA. I really did not care for the Spyderco system on the 2019 as I was already having issues with control panels and wiring. It’s pretty, easy to read, but will get pricy to fix. The T handles on cabinets drove me crazy on the 2019. Constantly being loose and turning like you had. The 2017 has the standard round knobs - love ‘em. So far, the only thing I have found questionable on the Red is like you stated on the dinette lighting. Switch positioning does not make a lot of sense. I Enjoy your channel!

[@AZExpert]

That's really good feedback and it sounds like we think alike too.

[@theresaelkins8954]

Gah, I want t know all the items. Otherwise, what a luxurious vacation! I hope your wife enjoyed it too. It’s obvious you did. And I’m 5’8” so that shower faucet would be my first fix (after the super simple switch swapping for the exhaust brake). I work in the truck fleet repair industry, now I’m going to start looking into that wiper switch issue. We have a variety of Freightliners, Sterlings, Hino’s and other heavy trucks to compare. We also get motorhomes too since we aren’t strictly fleet oriented.

[@AZExpert]

thank you. it was a blast!

[@andrewpostal450]

I think you should take Every RV you repair on a cross country trip, good to see you on vacation brother

[@AZExpert]

I agree with you, maybe not that far though

[@tombeilman5579]

Looks like the cabinets are golden oak ? On new home construction most cabinets are darker

[@AZExpert]

Maybe a cross between that and cherry. New home cabinets are whatever you choose usually. I think the lighter colors are more popular right now.

[@irawall9159]

Loved the TV remote issue. Love your videos.

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@williamlambert2865]

James, really loved watching this rebuild, glad you got to test everything out for the next owner, did a great shack down.

[@AZExpert]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@tjnak]

Can the lighting be separated and maybe dimmers added?

[@AZExpert]

I would have thought dimmers would have been built in but they weren't so not on the network system.

[@badgerpa9]

I am glad the shake down cruise went very well and you had a good time. The one item that I think may be a handicap issue is the shower, the valve has to be at a certain height and the larger handles help with older peoples hands like on doors now you have the lever instead of a knob. If you can get a wiring schematic for the bus you can tell if the lighting would be easy or difficult to do. Stay safe thanks for your videos it has helped me with my thinking about future RV. The wiper switch could be swapped out I would think but the knob may be to ugly for Tiffin.

[@AZExpert]

you are correct

[@SpykersB]

Yup, that goofy setup of the lights would bug me too. But if I were to become the new owner of your master piece, all those annoying lighting issues would become an easy fix by calling up your new buddy the master electrician ‘Brian’s RV’. 😃 So your next project is finding an older, more affordable tiffin that you can fix up, by squeezing it into your virtual spare time eh! 😉 Cheers 🍻

[@AZExpert]

I wish I had time for another one

[@hayyarbrough]

Y'all did a wonderful job putting up thing back together that was a mess... But thank you for sharing your vacation with us.. your videos always help all of us... Especially do it yourself person.. maybe I catch you the next time if you're in Wildwood Georgia again.. coming out your way late summer..

[@AZExpert]

Thank you so much 🤗

[@bromistaeljefe4641]

I hate the switch for the wipers !!!!

[@AZExpert]

I agree with you

[@kenkauzens7984]

I'm certain the ceiling lights and accent lights could be separated and switched individually. You can add a fire fly module to the Spyder system and run it all from your phone, all the lights from wherever Bluetooth connects. Microwave light is an issue, I use electrical tape. Better yet swap it out. I found the directional stalk to be far from the wheel, had to reach down. Which model is this the 33AL? Did you have any slide issues? I hated mine!

[@AZExpert]

it's a 33aa I will never be a fan of Schwintek slides in anything more than a trailer.

[@timaz1066]

Glad you enjoyed the RV life for two weeks. I love my 2000 Monaco Dynasty for 6-7 months out of the year. And yes I thought you bought it.

[@AZExpert]

Right on!

[@robertthompson6958]

Interesting overview. Thanks James. Bloopers add some fun.

[@AZExpert]

Glad you like them!

[@abitofeverything1234]

I think you'll have to push the wiper knob first than turn it. Everything else makes sense.

[@AZExpert]

There's always something

[@mrmudstud5980]

Excellent Review, and yes, more engrs and manufacturers reps need to sample their own products to improve them. You hit the nail on the head👍......

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@montyhenson2664]

Thanks, I like your repair or maintenance/ reviews/ for RV as it helps everyone what to watch out for or questions to ask a seller if in the market for an RV. I sub to others but think you have best repair or how-to content. Have you done much on side de-lamination/repairs? I have to look back on your channel. In addition, I like hearing brands or models to stay clear of and why. (Scotty Kilmer) And as a newer RV owner I like hearing about the RV trends since 2020 drove RV prices and and camping to huge #s. FYI, RV Odd couple had recent videos on RV industry you may want to review for insight into newest data and stats. For example most RV are using their rig less than 30 days a year. So really need to factor in the expenses associated with RV ownership including where are you parking it? Getting it repaired, insurance, etc., etc. (endless money pit as it ages) Data from RV industry from RV owners. RVIA recently released. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJWQZoSenbBmmck bit.ly/7TypesofRVers

[@AZExpert]

RVs do require more care than houses but even a house left unoccupied for 11 months will have some major issues from neglect

[@mull3915]

Good video, the lack of a dinette light switch by the dinette would drive me crazy also. I'm sure most of those lighting issues can be corrected by a crafty person as yourself. I agree with your point, those are things that should be planned out better at the factory.

[@AZExpert]

Yeah I agree

[@rickhicks3477]

It is a common sense things that needs fixing. 👍👍

[@AZExpert]

I doubt I would have thought about them unless I lived in it

[@6582rg]

Will Big Red be sold with a salvage title?

[@moegeek]

Excellent work! That RV is probably more prepared for a potential owner than a new one!!

[@AZExpert]

Hope so!

[@MarksKicksOnRoute66]

Is there not an app for connection to the touch pad?

[@AZExpert]

not that I am aware of, but I didn't read the manual :)

[@LayloNewt]

Enjoyed the video and thanks for taking the time to hit all the little things. Disappointed to hear the coach is not yours. Does this mean no more camping trips?

[@AZExpert]

Not at all, I really enjoy camping, I just never have time for it

[@joeparker7423]

It’s the little things....😁

[@AZExpert]

it's always something in a house or RV

[@stevest.martin3940]

If that’s all that wrong it’s a good coach I can’t for the life if me see why people still buy a Palazo or a Forza when tiffin builds the RED

[@AZExpert]

I agree, the Forza does not compete with this and well Palazo's are not built well at all

[@DLTJR1959]

Tiffin sells a lot of the Allegro Red's because they are a great value. Great review as always. Thanks again.

[@AZExpert]

Right on

[@snoogans349]

2019!? Oh hell no, all that would drive me crazy.

[@AZExpert]

It's always the little things that do

[@farcohollis1369]

What length is this coach? You mentioned “short”.

[@AZExpert]

it's listed at 34-35 feet

[@martind701]

Totally agree on the microwave light, too bright. Our microwave fan's low speed quit working ,is there an easy fix?

[@AZExpert]

not that I know of

[@TheGregWallace]

Ok.....$900 dollars and that is my final offer......where do I pick it up at?

[@johnallen6960]

How does someone in az contact you about repairs to their RV ?

[@stevendunn264]

Is there an app for the lights?

[@AZExpert]

There is a panel on the wall but no phone app

[@rickdinkins6718]

EXCELLENT RUNDOWN! Appreciate your attention to detail and given your starting point with this RV, I think it says a lot for your skills and Tiffin's products...all minor issues in the big scheme of things.

[@AZExpert]

Well said!

[@hatenlebron]

I hate those USB LED lights. It is almost impossible to find USB's without them now...

[@AZExpert]

I agree but the bedroom and dinette had non lighted USBs

[@petercolquhoun2086]

I gotta agree with all of your points.

[@AZExpert]

thank you

[@ernestbrothers1298]

Ok here we thought you invested well. Least you had nice trip to shake out the bugs

[@AZExpert]

You got that right!

[@terrytinagero777]

Welcome to shower hell, your now one of us..........

[@AZExpert]

lol, I'm in a glassbox of emotion

[@tommarkosian2703]

I thought Winnebago’s were your favorite coach because of the well built roofs. Enjoyed your trip and shorts. Thanks for sharing.

[@AZExpert]

I do like Winnebago, the just feel bland and boring to me

[@robertbarcus1963]

Do you prefer a Class A or a 5th to travel? Good review.

[@AZExpert]

5th wheels are great living in areas weeks or months at a time, class a are better living for more frequent relocating

[@robertburgess6100]

Sounds like ya'll had a great time! I feel ya on the lighting I hate the key pads in most of the new RV'S.

[@AZExpert]

I like switches

[@kdub1666]

Good feedback on updates/fixes. That passenger seat cover looks pretty gnarled and I imagine ain't cheap to fix. How was towing stability? Did you feel it do that traditional short coach tagless axle porpoise shufffe?

[@AZExpert]

yes it's very upsetting, towing was fine, wind was noticeable and there were a few wavy roads I needed to slow down for due to the dolphin action

[@Tony_in_AZ]

Thanks James... Electrical tape over the display on the microwave?

[@rnreajr9184]

Use translucent tape so that you can still see the display. An expensive kludge would be to use yellow mylar tape, which is for high-temperature applications, but we happen to have it around the shop. Actually any colored film could be taped over the display with transparent tape to help dim it. Like James said, there might be a setting in the microwave to dim it, if you can figure out how to access the right menu.

[@steves3688]

Id put some of that headlight darkening film over it so it could still be read...

[@AZExpert]

tint film is a good idea

[@rickl6697]

Nailed it ! From now on you will be known as " THE HAMMER". LOL

[@AZExpert]

thank you

[@ruthmichigander]

Love watching you and learning. I actually want an Allegro Bus. Will you do inspections on a coach someone is looking at buying if they pay your transportation and fees you would charge?

[@AZExpert]

I can if the schedules line up

[@richbowie76]

Ahhh, A plot twist ! Lol ! I thought for sure you bought it.

[@AZExpert]

I wish!

[@ynAMe6Aj]

For safety reasons I don't drive with the armrest down. I want plenty of elbow room if I need to wrestle with the wheel in an emergency. Those light control panels are terrible. Bad access, multiple touches just to turn on/off. If you have old eyes you have to have your glasses to turn on the lights to find your glasses. When the system fails you probably will lose all access to all lights, dumb. I have been contemplating putting some window tint over the microwave light for about 6 year.

[@AZExpert]

I found the armrest helped but yes, the networked electrical systems are a very bad idea

[@Graygeezer]

Nothing major wrong - except all that rain coming in.

[@AZExpert]

it wasn't a lot of rain

[@hjc5458]

Since you finally stated , ( I DIDN'T BUY THIS ). That was one hell of a test drive. LOL

[@AZExpert]

it was an enjoyable test drive though

[@camfoust3987]

Did the investors ask you to take it out and enjoy a trip to make sure it was all complete. Hoping the rv expert's wife would talk the rv expert into wanting to keep it..lol

[@AZExpert]

no, I needed to make sure it wouldn't break 5 miles down the road

[@camfoust3987]

Did an awesome job. The paint job is very tedious.

[@FisherPost]

Too many switch issues, I’ll have to take the RV off your hands...but give me a great deal with all those gremlins!

[@AZExpert]

I think someone will get a good deal

[@sailorjohnboy2325]

Sure is a nice rv

[@1floon]

At somewhere between $500,000 and 1 million it should be

[@AZExpert]

no nowhere near that, was around $300k new, probably around $220k insurance value now

[@TheBandit7613]

I sold my huge class A for a smaller 2021 F450 class C. MUCH BETTER. Normal windshield, doors, wipers and dash, love the new 7.3 engine. Don't like class A's with the hokey home-built dash, no drivers/passenger doors. Billboard sized windshield. Sell it before something breaks!

[@AZExpert]

that's the plan!

[@rickc9873]

Hey Lighten up !!!!! LOL

[@AZExpert]

lol

[@janebray9392]

1st world problems😂🤣😘😍👍🏻😆🙋‍♀️🇨🇦❤‼️

[@AZExpert]

that's what I was thinking too

[@Yukonjackman1]

Your life seams to be a bit busy with you tube now, don't you miss the simple crap anymore without KZbin

[@rnreajr9184]

Shhhh! Don't tell him! Some of us need him here!

[@AZExpert]

it's a very strange position I'm in with it to be sure. I'd like to not worry too much about the videos, but I do like seeing the channel grow.