8 Things That DID NOT Age Well in HARRY POTTER

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[@MovieFlame]

Just to be clear, I don't agree with a lot of these. I'm just basing this on how society is today.

[@angrybirb756]

Not trying to be rude but could you make a video about Neville Longbottom?

[@_Majunior]

As far as the midget thing, I don't think it's that bad considering it's depicting teenagers boys. Seems pretty accurate considering most teenaged boys are crass and just say shit lol.

[@shivendra3019]

Can you please make a video on what form a Boggart will take for all the Harry potter characters? I find your content entertaining and informational. Keep it up.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

Like there aren't zoomers who won't be triggers by it

[@charliecomer6001]

Yeah, the dursleys treatment of harry was horrible. Minerva herself didn't agree with placing harry there. Though tbf to Rowling, some of the stuff on this list was never SUPPOSED TO age well. If anything, they were ment to age faster than drinking an aging potion

[@sebastianstaadt5984]

I personally feel like it would be literally impossible to write a good story/book if you would have to think about offending 0% of the people seeing it.

[@lahlybird895]

Yep if this character isn't 100% exactly how I am in relation to a demographic it's a bad representation of course if the character is 100% accurate to how I feel the demographic then it's a shallow copy paste stereotype

[@moviemelody2210]

@@lahlybird895there is no one situation 😂

[@ChrisPTY507]

Given how sensitive people are these days, it's basically impossible not to offend anyone. Most people are emotionally weak

[@lahlybird895]

@@ChrisPTY507 I wouldn't say emotionally weak just lacking in nuanced critical thinking and reading comprehension

[@lahlybird895]

@@moviemelody2210 last thing I need is people analyzing the land in my fantasy world deciding it's very similar to some country I've never heard of then deciding how the people who live there are clearly racist interpretations of fed people and said country is purely on pond location regardless of any similarities, then point out how the lack of similarity indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of the culture I'm supposedly trying to represent even though I made the whole damn thing up.

[@BlueB360]

One thing a lot of people should keep in mind that the series took place in the 1990s…to put it simply, a different time compared to nowadays.

[@ThePokemonPrinceYT]

Agreed

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

True blue, baby, I love you (sorry, I wanted to say only true blue, but it reminded me of the song by Madonna with this name)

[@dansattah]

Very true. Going forward, I could still see Harry Potter as English literature that's appropriate for schools and higher education, provided that an annotated version is released. Providing annotations is always better than forcing publishers to change the original with modern vocabulary. When I heard that Astrid Lindgren's works are being rewritten instead of annotated, I got very upset about this gross disservice to Swedish literature and the study thereof.

[@tamara_diamonds422]

A different time. You’re acting as the 90’s is a different century. I was a teenager during the 90’s. The 90’s was not that long ago.

[@moviemelody2210]

@@tamara_diamonds422it was still a different time. Depending on where you live, If you were a teenager in the 90s then you lived a portion of your life were the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) as not in place and therefore affected how the world viewed those with disabilities.

[@Ori_Kohav]

One more thing that didn’t age well is Snape’s abusive teaching. Looking back at his behavior towards Harry, Hermione, and especially Neville, teachers in real life would get instantly fired for that, unless the school is okay with bad press from outraged parents.

[@erikagholston6610]

Dumbledore need ed to have a strong talking to with Snape about his treatment of students.

[@jaydas8976]

Yeah, you’re right. Snape would’ve been fired immediately if he was a teacher in real life.

[@dannyjorde2677]

You all speak as if people approved abusive teaching when Harry Potter was released. 😑

[@thewhitewolf58]

Between snape and the dursleys, Dumbledore comes off as a well meaning idiot.

[@moviemelody2210]

@@dannyjorde2677this!

[@OgreJoe]

The "weighing as much as a Killer Whale" line is still hilarious 😅

[@jigyasaagarwal9462]

on a deeper note, considering how being as overweight as dudley was super unhealthy for him, it showed how the durselys bullied both the children they were incharge of, just in different ways.

[@lesinhhung6999]

​@@jigyasaagarwal9462Bully? No, just not being able to raise children.

[@ThisIsMyRodrick]

@@jigyasaagarwal9462 I think Movie Flame may been little sensitive but he is right. I think JK Rowling would make fat jokes because you are suppose to hate the Dursleys.

[@Essam975]

I don't really care if a series has an lgbtq character because if it's good, then it's good

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

True, you don't have include non straight and non white characters to write good books, TV shows and movie

[@Roter_Lotus]

Facts! LGBTQ-Characters in a story is not equal to a good story.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

@@Roter_Lotus So true, I wish Disney would understand that already

[@Roter_Lotus]

@@ThePersephoneDiggen Oh I think they do understand very well but they don't care which is sad.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

@@Roter_Lotus I wonder what made them not caring because without Walt Disney and his vision, they wouldn’t do whatever they do now.

[@williamwright4813]

I think that some of these come down to the fact that, no matter what you write or how you write it, somebody somewhere is going to be offended by it.

[@bengheinrich7500]

In the end of the day the books were written in the late nineties to 2000s so I don't care if things are considered racist or problematic by todays standards. People really shouldn't be too upset about books, movies or TV shows for being racist, sexist or homophobic if they were made just twenty years ago or several decades ago because we had different standards on what was okay or not.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

Totally agree, especially if the author hasn't written them intentionally like that, I mean that she wasn't any of that stuff, books, shows, and movies are sort of a reflection of the people who lived in their period, look at the books that came out hundreds of years ago, the author didn't have the same standards we have now

[@karlijnbellemans8964]

We shouldn't ignore it either, we can frown upon it! Because something was "right" decades ago, shouldn't mean we have to brush it off because it was "normal". Slavery was seen as "normal", inhuman behavior towards other humans because of skin, should we simply say "Oh well, it happened in the past." To put these topics in media, to me, is a way to make viewers aware that it's still happens and everyone has their own right to be mad about it, or to simply ignore it (which doesn't make the world a better place, not like it's a good place). Feel about it how you want, but be mindful some people will take offense to it, even if it was written 27 years ago.

[@Dunneisdone1313]

Just because it was a different time doesn’t mean we should ignore it

[@AmazingAnes]

agreed.

[@vinniequick]

@@karlijnbellemans8964 right but if you get most people from today who are not looking for it to be a problem no one will care hence why we still read and watch them because we don't really care

[@landibear6509]

You said it in the beginning yourself. It was 27 years ago. Different time. It's like criticizing Jane Austen today for writing about a cousin wanting to marry one of the Bennett sisters because none of them could inherit from their father. Different time, different era.

[@Gat_Play]

Because of fatshaming in books, i starting loosing weight, looking at what im eating and start going to gym. Now im not obese as i was. Some things are not just for laughs or to shame someone. Some things are for your own good.

[@Gat_Play]

Another one calling Jewish people goblins, untrustworthy greedy etc. Its not problem with goblins or Jewish people, its problem with your antisemitism. Why you think that goblins and Jewish people are similar ? Why you think that Jewish people and goblins are untrustworthy and greedy ? Shame on you if you think like that.

[@Gat_Play]

Im from another country, so i care less about lgbt. I think that the fact with which gender character prefers to have romantic relationships and more, is not that important at all for story. Did any of characters in the original tells anyone that they are straight ? No. But it still good book that people of all races and genders could enjoy.

[@dmulders5347]

Good for you men

[@SRI_IRS]

W congrats on the journey

[@M.A.C.01]

Guess you can give credit to Rowling for your weight loss journey.

[@ashutoshrai3369]

TBH people are getting a lot touchy these days Taking offense at almost anything. Btw love your videos bro Love from India ❤

[@amandafelix-amadi5334]

Honestly. It makes me scared to write sometimes. Like art doesn't always have to be socially and politically correct. It's meant to entertain and make people feel something.

[@moviemelody2210]

@@amandafelix-amadi5334100% agree

[@lahlybird895]

​@@amandafelix-amadi5334I used to want to be a writer I have officially given that up. I don't need people making guesses about my personal life or values just based upon how they decided to interpret a random thought I had once into a story spinning it out of context and making it something it was not and it was never intended to be because they can't possibly think of their being nuanced opinions.

[@joshuahecht6866]

A bunch of Umbridges and Karen’s these days.

[@Higherthantheheavensabove]

@@amandafelix-amadi5334then go do it

[@lizzyfleck7705]

jk rowling: makes 1 gay character the hp fandom: a few characters are gay the marauders fandom: EVERYONE is gay

[@HannahShae16]

I love the marauders fandom! It’s so chaotic & SOOOOO gay 🤣🤣

[@andreykarbinovskiy430]

Except James? And Peter?

[@itztocazozo13]

@@andreykarbinovskiy430jegulus exists but idk why like wolf star is normal but jegulus is weird in my opinion

[@redrex6642]

2:05 fat shaming someone is different to insulting someone that has been rude to you for entire life

[@codemanthe2nd343]

Dang, didn't realise it was 27 years old

[@ThePrincessSabrina]

Yeah! Talk about feeling old!

[@ChriStellalla]

Just like me, I was born on the publishing day!

[@AnimeSlayerAllie]

that’s about a decade before I was born🤯

[@ThePrincessSabrina]

@@AnimeSlayerAllie for a different perspective, I was into ny 3rd year as a blind person when HP was published

[@AnimeSlayerAllie]

@@ThePrincessSabrina wow

[@Dlineman91]

Thank god these books had not been written today.

[@angelaslayz]

Yup

[@SleepyHollowFan777]

That’s why I’m scared for the reboot. HBO don’t Wokisize Harry Potter.(By the way, not saying I hate LGBTQ, I’m just saying keep the series the same)

[@da-vidcargill4975]

​@SleepyHollowFan777 remember jk rowling is a producer it's going to be fine

[@cybersoldierforever]

@@SleepyHollowFan777 Oh please.

[@nahor88]

@@SleepyHollowFan777 Good God... I honestly didn't even think about that until this video. Fat shaming? No LGBTQ characters? Sounds like "wokiness" for sure, not "didn't age well". Maybe didn't age well for "snowflakes".

[@qrow7215]

The house elves being slaves is an interesting subject as it is stated in the books that the hose elves like being enslaved and several got upset when they were presented with freedom. Winky was destroyed when Crouch gave her clothes and all the house elves at Hogwarts (apart from Dobby) refused to clean the Gryffindor common room because of all the clothes in there. Kreacher was honoured to serve the Black family and later Harry. Of course one could argue that they don't know anything different but they clearly do. Ultimately this begs the question: what is a willing slave other than a volunteer?

[@Capnasa]

its house bud not hose, hoses are for gardens.

[@lahlybird895]

Exactly Hermione is trying to be helpful but it's actually being deeply culturally insensitive. Not to be fair there's the whole magical contract thing to consider, but I like to view it kind of like in nature there are mutualistic and symbiotic relationships between things in the natural world. Why not have a magical symbiosis as well. I think what Hermione ultimately ends up doing is perhaps advocating for better treatment of them getting them more respect which is fine and I think even they can agree to that but everything else she was trying to do with hugely overstepping and unwanted to them the people she's trying to care about.

[@sawanna508]

There is still the problem with the selve punishments of house elves when they do things wrong. This makes the enslavement questionable alone. This also means a house elf can be basically to be ordered to do anything and they have to obey. A lot of the house elfs are born as slaves they never had the chance to chose there fate from the start and I think the intoctrinatiation that freedom equals shame is only there to keep them into subjection.

[@Belgi_an_pizza]

You can stop volunteering

[@qrow7215]

@@Capnasa thanks mate fixed the typo :)

[@derandreas4766]

Viktor Krum, the only 18y old who looks like he's 36

[@amandafelix-amadi5334]

The actor probably was 😂

[@AnOldFashionedWoman]

@@amandafelix-amadi5334, Stanislav Yanevski was born in 1985.

[@kims8752]

​@@amandafelix-amadi5334 the actor was 19, turning 20 during th3 production of the movie

[@amandafelix-amadi5334]

@@kims8752 oh okay

[@ChelseaChfy-ex1po]

@amandafelix-amadi5334 He looked his age

[@Wailerman]

Never have i ever thought MovieFlame would mention Adolf Hitler in a Harry Potter Video

[@karenstrong6734]

Also, Jewish stereotypes had always existed long before Hitler was born.

[@hillyplays29]

About the thumbnail: at least she never kissed Krum. Robert Pattinson, on the other hand, wasn't allowed to go too hard with Kristen Stewart in Twilight because he was 21 and she was still 17 at the time

[@capriciousstudent]

It’s kinda funny that in real life we’re like “he was 21, she was 17, so that’s not appropriate” (which is the correct take), but the whole premise of twilight is “he’s 104, she’s 17, but they’re in love and that’s romantic and hot I guess”

[@charliecomer6001]

​@@capriciousstudentI've GOT to stop drinking when going through dthe comment section, you made me do a spit take

[@James_new]

Am i wrong or didnt ginny tell ron that hermione kissed krum?

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Well, it saying she snogged Krum implies that they did kiss at some point.

[@sarahliu5310]

She kissed krum in the books

[@Lupinemancer87]

This is not a criticism of you, but about the so called "modern society" that we live in. The fact that we are in a place where people get so offended over literally nothing is not a good thing. This is why we can no longer just enjoy media and have fun like we used to cuz someone is gonna take offense of something and find something to complain about. I absolutely hate where the world is going and I fear for our future if this continues. I finally understand why old people used to say how the good old days were better then today, cuz they were.

[@blindmanwakeboarding2625]

Yeah the good old days, When people like Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris could get away with whatever they wanted to do.

[@maxonite]

Old people say that and are talking about times of literal segregation. The good old times do not exist.

[@Lupinemancer87]

@@maxonite Sure they do, it was back before this nonsense happened. Back before people got offended over nothing. Back you could actually have fun and it wasn't seen as opressive to be who you are.

[@D95-zf6mz]

​​@@Lupinemancer87 Like the 1990s, 2000s and 2010s. These were the good old times. Everything went downhill since 2020.

[@monaeckle]

Ah yes, society was definitely better in the 1990s when racism, fatphobia, slurs, antisemitism, homophobia, SA, adults dating minors and child abuse were seen as okay. What the hell are you even saying here?

[@philipjohn1254]

I wouldn't say that it is fat-shaming as such. Unpleasant characters have less than pleasant descriptions. It's Harry's viewpoint. Voldemort is thin, but that is presented to us, the reader, as him being spidery and skeletal. Dudley is the same idea, but in the other direction. Hermione is also presented as being in the right about SPEW. There are scenes with both Sirius and Dumbledore where that happens.

[@sidr8920]

I've always hated how JK Rowling made Sirius mistreat Kreacher in the 5th book, especially since in literally the previous book, he says "to know what a man's like, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals" about Barty Crouch

[@babyecho-_-3610]

@@sidr8920it’s not the same tho. He treated buckbeak very well. Kreacher and Sirius had mutual dislike for each other

[@LukeMcNeely-d1m]

​@@babyecho-_-3610agreed

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

​@@babyecho-_-3610yeah, Sirius was kind to House elves in general. He just had bad blood with Kreacher specifically

[@dannyjorde2677]

@@sidr8920 One the contrary, you should *appreciate* JK Rowling for creating flawed characters. You speak as if Sirius mistreating Kreacher was represented as a good thing. It never was. Both Dumbledore and Hermione explain that plot point very well.

[@ssl3546]

think you mean "8 ways society was better in the 1990s before people got butthurt about everything"

[@salarshah901]

Lol agree

[@MovieFlame]

Lol

[@monaeckle]

Ah yes, society was definitely better in the 1990s when racism, fatphobia, slurs, antisemitism, homophobia, SA, adults dating minors, child abuse and slavery were seen as okay. What the hell are you even saying here?

[@Yomim1984]

The first and the last I understand but the rest are just people getting offended over everything.

[@Yomim1984]

Correction, first and second last

[@DerpKarp]

I'm surprised Umbr*dge saying "The ministry puts a higher value on my life than yours I'm afraid." Because where does she end up?Oh yea,Azkaban.

[@Timotheskyrimfan]

But that is only after the Ministry was controled by Kingsley not when it was controled by Fudge and that was the case when Umbrige said that.

[@moniqueboucher8011]

Why u censoring umbridge?

[@ninjaluc79]

1:52 2:34 Another thing is that Neville was portrayed as chubby in Sorcerer's Stone (but not as much as Dudley) but he got thinner as he gained more confidence in himself and got more badass. Moral is, get in shape, I guess.

[@moviemelody2210]

Or that the more confident you are in yourself the more your body will reflect that

[@sawanna508]

Also Dudley get's in shape later in Order of the Phoenix when he takes on boxing as a hobby.

[@Nemo12417]

@@sawanna508 Technically, getting in shape doesn't make Dudley a better person. He does that after the start of Book 4 but before Book 5, and there, his morality is at the absolute nadir, and now he has the muscle to act out his worst self. The dementor attack and Dumbledore calling his parents out is probably what made him reevaluate himself.

[@kaiumeda6341]

Honestly some of this stuff I was fine with -fat jokes (they aren’t real people & they’re bad people at that) - not a lot of LGBTQ representation (I feel like the story didn’t need that to be good) But a lot of this stuff made sense: -Jewish propaganda -“midgets” -dating someone underage -child abuse -love potions

[@moviemelody2210]

Jewish propaganda: Goblins have always been depicted that way so I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to antisemitism Midgets: I’m a little person and I think if your heart is in the right place you’re fine (is a person has a problem with you calling them something they will let you know) Dating someone underage: it’s only a problem if it turns sexual in nature while one is a minor Love potions: they were always portrayed as a problem

[@TomTomBL3]

And child abuse dumbledore only made Harry stay their because of the protection in petunias blood

[@agentspaniel4428]

Don't forget Hermione being made fun of by everyone for being an abolitionist (that's most deserving to be on here)

[@batmanbeyond5766]

no way some on you are crying about ''midgets'' being used and the goblins being jews

[@kaiumeda6341]

@@batmanbeyond5766 well in case you didn’t know, midgets was a term used in 1800s freak shows to advertise people with disabilities, it still is disgusting & degrading & Jewish propaganda is worth criticizing too

[@toumabyakuya]

Eh, I think most of these are just a consequence of society's evolution. What was normal to laugh at back then isn't anymore.

[@MovieFlame]

That was the entire point of the video lol. That was the first thing I said.

[@moviemelody2210]

@@toumabyakuyathat’s society’s mindset

[@AnOldFashionedWoman]

Not sure evolution is the right word. I don't see being offended by everything as evolution.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@AnOldFashionedWoman By that I meant that society keeps changing, no matter if said change is actually good or not.

[@stephencarmody5375]

It's still normal to laugh at these things if you have a sense of humour and are not some pathetic, miserable loser constantly looking to be offended.

[@l.tc.5032]

Harry would 100% be taken by CPS and there's a chance Dudley would be too.

[@Jedda678]

I will say with the love potion while it is never ever justified. Slughorn did ask whether the potion was out of date or not. Stating they can strengthen the longer they are out of date and Harry had it for 3 months. His symptoms were an extreme. But Meropi shows us just how terrible it can be by using it to force Tom Sr. Into conceiving a child with her.

[@failurenotsorry6600]

yeah, i despise it when people gloss over the Meropi thing.

[@ajmalmalik5005]

1) Please make the Harry Potter and the deathly hallows part 1 movie breakdown. 2) Please tell us your sequel to the harry potter series.

[@ShmiMonika]

Krum will never sit well with me especially since it seems to be a repetitive thing with him as at Bill and Fleur's wedding he shows interest in Ginny who is also not yet 16 and he is 21. And if you add the matter that he was not only older but also an international quidditch star that is even more creepy in terms of power balance and him going around asking 15-year-old Hermione to visit him in Bulgaria.

[@GrassyBoy]

I don't mind LGBT characters in media as long as it's not forced in and their whole identity is, "Hey I'm the gay or trans character."

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

It's everywhen nowadays, especially in Disney movies and shows (that includes Star Wars), also the non white characters are there

[@grahamdamberger7130]

A lot of the time movies and TV shows will add a "gay male best friend" to the straight female protagonist, and him being gay is usually for comedy purposes. Not once have I seen (at least in Western media) a straight male protagonist with a lesbian best friend. But I am with you on that. As long as there's a setup to someone being part of thee LGBT umbrella and it isn't dropped like a bombshell, I'm fine with it. Like, maybe a guy once tried dating girls during his school years, but towards the end of senior year in high school found out he was into guys after spending time with a guy and landed his first boyfriend at Prom (or their school/country's equivalent to Prom). Or a girl unknowingly hit on another girl in first year of high school and expected to be ridiculed but the other girl ended up asking her out weeks later. It's the genuine buildup that people want to see, not something being thrown in for the sake of "representation".

[@DrJones0801]

This is one of the things I can't stand about Hogwarts Legacy. I like the game, but oh my god the diversity feels so incredibly forced. The game introduces certain lgbt characters just for one quest and then never mention them again.

[@ChelseaChfy-ex1po]

@DrJones0801 It’s for brownie points and completely not realist for the 1800s. In the 1800s everyone was ethnic British too

[@alight_everdeen]

BABE WAKE UP MY FAVOURITE KZbinR POSTED

[@harrison4473]

Not having a gay/lesbian character doesn't hurt the story. It's not that big of a deal. As long as the story is good, who cares.

[@justkiddinbye]

About the age difference 8:20 I don‘t think it‘s that much of a big deal. Girls tend to mature faster than boys and with eighteen years you‘re still a teen. I grew up in Germany and it was pretty common for me to see this age difference.

[@sawanna508]

Same in Austria were the consence age was only change recently form 15 to 17. (Means even an adult older then 20 could have dated a 15 year old)

[@konquerorkayleb]

if I were Harry living with the dursleys I would have called cps the first chance I got 💀

[@Cfaogbsyi]

another thing is the way that fleur was treated by ginny, hermione and mrs weasley especially when they made fun of her accent

[@tylerblevins1728]

I still laugh at fat jokes in movies! It's a movie everyone signed up and was paid! They aren't victims 👏

[@AmazingAnes]

another thing that didn't age well was hHarry's detentions with umbridge. teachers would be fired and might even face ail time in real life if they forced their students to write in their own blood. but because the wizarding world's laws are different and because umbridge is a naturally cruel person, it wouldn't work like that.

[@corgimom5626]

No, even in wizard world it was cruel but Harry didn’t want to seem weak by telling other teachers.

[@Lil_Valor]

Not sure how that could be considered not aging well, when it was a literal part of the storyline. She was evil… That was acknowledged and the whole point of it.

[@JuanAcosta15X]

The lack of lgbt characters could be explained out of universe because of Rowling’s declarations and values growing up in a different time. But inside the universe I guess we can assume the magic society, much like ours, wasn’t as tolerable with those demographics by the time the books were written. And in my opinion, having lgbt characters in the original books wouldn’t made much difference. It would’ve been cool but at the end it wasn’t totally necessary. I’m latino and visually impaired and I think it would’ve been great to see characters with Hispanic ancestry or visual disabilities, but I’m okay not having them in the original books.

[@moviemelody2210]

I also have a visual disability but think it’s completely fine that they didn’t show any in Harry Potter. The point is making good story

[@blindmanwakeboarding2625]

Also visually impaired, Absolutely love the books and I keep re-reading them. But yeah, not very good for disability representation

[@SuziQ.]

*Harry* wore glasses, and he wasn’t the only one, but he was the star of the series.

[@blindmanwakeboarding2625]

@@SuziQ. yes Harry wore glasses and so did quite a few characters. This really isn't a representation of visual impairment.

[@quaktoons331]

Albus Dumbledore being gay makes sense because he never dated McGonagall. Have you seen McGonagall in her 20s?

[@JackalBlender]

Regarding S.P.E.W, I think Rowling wrote it that way to highlight how in the real world there is still some form of slavery but "nobody cares". As for the abusive Dursleys described in book 1, it was to give hope to kids that lived through horrible environment and by reading this book, they would have an opportunity to dream. I'm not sure but I think she had an interview where she talked about her own life and how it oriented her books.

[@moviemelody2210]

I think that is a good observation

[@JackalBlender]

Ok I'm not sure everything is covered in this interview but some things are mentioned in it, it's "A Year in the Life of J.K. Rowling"

[@moviemelody2210]

@@JackalBlenderI’ll check it out:)

[@vortexalliance9938]

I disagree with 4 and 8, 4 cause the goblins are a fantastical creatures so i find it silly trying to compare them to real life group of people. As for 8 I don't see why a story has to have a lgbtq+ character especially HP cause of the time it is set im

[@rjd-kh8et]

Funny how the Goblet of Fire movie included a conversation between Harry and Hermione that I suspect was just put in to confirm that Hermione and Krum's relationship wasn't sexual, yet also included a scene where a 40-year-old actress flirts with 15-year-old Daniel Radcliffe in the bathtub.

[@andreykarbinovskiy430]

Didn't she say that Victor was more on physical side?

[@Kelseyalicia]

I've had some serious disccusion lately about Harry Potter. And I think you should talk about the lack of proper parenting and how badly the wizarding world needs to invested in proper therapy for everyone!

[@laurenrodriguez4786]

Hi! I agree with almost everything except one thing. Toning down the abuse Harry suffered would be a dishonor to his character, J. K. Rowling work and the thousands of children and teens who suffer abuse on a daily or weekly basis and no one comes to help them. People who inflict harm on others specifically children Would do anything they can to hide the fact that it’s happening from the public eye so kids being rescued isn’t that easy. I know, I was one of those kids. Fortunately, for me, my life did turn around. But that was only because a family member stepped in. Most abused children unfortunately aren’t that fortunate. I could empathize and relate to Harry because of what he suffered at the Jerseys hands. Obviously, I would never condone something like that, but it helped to make him relatable. I’m excited for your next video! I actually said Dursley‘s, but I’m dictating this and Siri changed it

[@moviemelody2210]

I disagree with everything in the list. People are too soft these days

[@lahlybird895]

That Harry Potter is without there being a bad family like if he had a loving family then how are the weasleys or Hogwarts supposed to be his rescue his home his safe place

[@sawanna508]

@@lahlybird895 Exactly. There is also a certain nostalgia feeling to him because he is similar to other classic british heros like David Copperfield or "The little Princess".

[@sawanna508]

I'm sorry you had to go through that. -And it's a very sad truth such things still happen. Only couple of moths ago a little boy starved to death because of neglect in my country. This case shows no one noticed or did anything untill it was to late.

[@lahlybird895]

@@sawanna508 yeah, I never compared him to the little princess before but you're absolutely correct

[@clawy777]

For me, the amount of animal abuse is horrible. The children get living animals regularly in Transfiguration and McGonagall says in OotP "Mr. Thomas, if you do that to your mouse again, I'll have to put you in detention." And in one book she even mentions that a needle pillow of a student still trembles of fear if you get close to it with a needle, which indicates that its able to feel pain, if pinched at with a needle, when the charm wasn't done right. And in GoF, the Dragon which Krum has to fight gets a curse in his eye and tramples his eggs. Not to mention the amount of fear and stress for the dragons for this "game". And the treatment of the dragon in Gringotts is very similar to the treatment of "Dancing Bears" in Europe, which "dance" because the, expect pain at their feet when the hear certain music. I've just listend to all the audiobooks again, and while I still love the story and characters, the situation of the animal abuse didn't age well for me

[@angrybirb756]

MOVIEFLAME IS THE BEST HARRY POTTER KZbinR. Love from India ♥️♥️😄😄

[@rabiadhunna1912]

Me also from India Great to hear that people watch him from india

[@LazyOldFusspot_3428]

Agreed.

[@Kramachandraapatnaik]

Yes

[@marekmizerak2255]

also Snape's love or more like obsession for Lilly... making him a simp and a toxic, for the way he called her mudblood, and even when she was dead for years he was still hopelessly in love with her, manipulated to care for a boy he half/mostly hated which she had with another man (the one he hated and was bullied by him)... while he himself was a terrible bully to most of students... does not sound very heroic or touching anymore does it?

[@blindmanwakeboarding2625]

My biggest problem with the love potions, is they are written about in a very sexist way. They are aimed at women and girls and apparently are only used by women and girls. In fact the way that the relationships are written about, it always seems to be the women pining after the man. Just my observation

[@alettagijsoppelaar8077]

I agree, it bothers me when I read halfblood prince.

[@sawanna508]

I notied that as well but just recently eventhough it would be realistc that men would use them too.

[@dannyjorde2677]

@@blindmanwakeboarding2625 You're admitting that mostly women use the potion to rape men, and yet you think that women are the victims here. Ew.

[@skullwarriorr75]

The rampant bullying at Hogwarts is DEFINTELTY not okay by any standards, even in the 90s.

[@gamerstheater1187]

Idea for a video: Differences and similarities between Harry Potter and Star Wars

[@lahlybird895]

Harry Potter it's just a rip off of Star wars and refuses to accept the idea that both simply use the same lineup from the hero's journey

[@aslamnurfikri7640]

​​@@lahlybird895 At least Anakin Skywalker redempted himself while Voldemort was evil until the very end

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

There is debate over the name of the first movie in both series. Calling the first Star Wars movie Star Wars rather than A New Hope and the first Harry Potter movie title saying “Philosopher’s Stone” rather than “Sorcerer’s Stone”.

[@lahlybird895]

@@aslamnurfikri7640 see, different

[@aslamnurfikri7640]

​@@ConnorWiederich-hr4zuin Harry Potter's case both titles are correct. They use either sorcerer or philosopher depending on countries

[@quaktoons331]

The Death eater tattoos people got. That was hilarious, like, yeah getting a tattoos of a hate group will never age well lol 😆😂🤣 Can we appreciate the wine that didn't age well? It's timeless 🤩

[@BenDBeast]

1) Harry's Family 2) Cedric Diggory 3) Dobby 4) Fred 5) Lupin and Tonks

[@lgt.jne3]

I -

[@Paismarie]

It took me second 😭

[@amandafelix-amadi5334]

​@@PaismarieCan you explain it to me, please?

[@Paismarie]

@@amandafelix-amadi5334 the video is about things that didn’t age well, and all the characters listed are dead so they’re can’t age

[@amandafelix-amadi5334]

@@Paismarie ohh... thanks

[@harrygeorge6325]

8:07 it honestly ain’t that bad when she is 15 and he is 18 as he may be an adult but he is still in school

[@sawanna508]

I don't think it is that bad either since he is only three years older. It would be worse if the age gab was bigger.

[@harrygeorge6325]

@@sawanna508 agreed

[@grace19005]

​@@sawanna508 I think 3 years is pushing it. 2 years imo is when it's acceptable.

[@ChelseaChfy-ex1po]

@grace19005 It’s not pushing it at all. If you are a senior saying a sophomore, no big deal

[@harrygeorge6325]

@@ChelseaChfy-ex1po I’m British so I don’t understand that term

[@vernicajain]

The bew intro is lit bro literaly😅😂❤

[@hamnaenjoysbreakingtablets]

Yeahh this new jntro is sick 👍

[@AlexB-vt5xe]

each thing on the list of things to please people in a book/ film creation is turned to shackles to the writers, freedom of expression should be the only sensible thing, this has always been the case, not every book or film is for literally everyone.

[@lilbigbro-z5k]

I don't think the fat jokes aged that bad cause all the characters that are made fun of for being fat play mostly villainous roles so its not so bad

[@lilbigbro-z5k]

for example it would be a lot different if they made fun of Mrs. Weasley, but since it's Umbridge I think I can let it slide

[@MovieFlame]

There were several comments that made fun of Mrs. Weasley's weight. Vernon did it in the beginning of the fourth book when talking to Harry, and later on in that same book Malfoy called her fat right before he was turned into a ferret.

[@SophiaSMD]

To be fair though anyone who pops out 7 kids isn’t gonna be a “skinny legend

[@mistyashcraft2149]

I know Hermione was trying to stop slavery but she was making the elves unhappy because they liked work

[@mistv901]

Yes, she was forcing her beliefs on them. Not trying to change their mindset so that they could have a better life if they chose to do so. One of my favorite parts is still when Ron uncovers the hats Hermione hid and said, "There, now they have a choice." Because that was the right thing to do.

[@mubzytv]

They don’t age well today however people need to realise the books were written in the late 90s and early 2000s with the books being set in the 1990s. A lot of things that are frowned upon now were never an issue back then

[@octavia1996]

Kissing is also a form of intimacy, physical intimacy comes in many different forms to varying degrees.

[@Schoolrecording]

6:16 to be fair house elves WANT to be slaves no human wants to be a slave so the eres more of a difference

[@grace19005]

Thing is, why the heck did she write that storyline in the first place? What was she trying to achieve with it? "Oh this community actually likes being enslaved" like it comes across in a very awful way and rightfully so.

[@Kuzon13]

Honestly, I think the goblin comparison is accurate and hilarious. They certainly fit the description

[@popcudson4820]

as a jew..... yeah a bit

[@Kuzon13]

@@popcudson4820 you want me to bring a furnace for you?

[@redrex6642]

9:00 even though I do that it’s good to have inclusivity I don’t think it’s something that didn’t age well it just something that wasn’t included

[@moviemelody2210]

Agreed

[@iivarikoutonen9027]

As you include Rowling, it is.

[@moviemelody2210]

@@iivarikoutonen9027what?

[@vishwajeetpanwar3271]

Love potions would be easy to find out, Tom Riddle Sr was kinda kidnapped

[@whirl43]

Herminor Granger

[@LazyOldFusspot_3428]

Best comment yet 😂 Ye you're absolutely right here considering the questionable age gap between Miney and Krum.

[@cosmicwolf9918]

A messed up idea to think about is that if Child Protective Service did try to take Harry away, Dumbledore would’ve put a stop it…

[@classicalricky]

i mean, im 1000% a lgbtq supporter, but at the same time, idrc if there is a lgbtq character in smthg or not.

[@wilsonbelle6600]

I forgot about Ron calling the first-years the M-word. Hysterical line.

[@dracoorian3029]

I still laugh at the Dudley. Soft times makes for soft people 😂😂😂😂😂

[@M.A.C.01]

Maybe Dumbledore should have gone to the Dursley’s as a social worker to ensure harry was being treated safely.

[@SuziQ.]

Petunia had met him. He could have sent McGonagall, as a muggle CPS inspector. That would have been hilarious.

[@samuelcarvallo402]

I used to make jokes about how I felt offended by gobelins representation as a jew. Never thought people would take it seriously someday. I wouldn't change a thing to Harry Potter books or movies. I'm tired of this cancel culture that want to sanitize everything and produce only soulless products like Netflix movies. I don't mind LGBTQ representations but since when did it become a necessity in every work of art. It looks like a new form of Hays Code to me.

[@MizuRuiNeneCanon]

New MovieFlame video i click

[@stevenakins9388]

I feel like this argument could be applied to a lot of these points, but as a gay man, I will point out that specifically, with LGTBQ+ representation, it doesn't always have the intended effect. If someone has a great understanding of LGBTQ+ culture, it's almost always a hit with me. But, on the other end, there are also a lot of LGBTQ+ characters that, to me at least, come off as very stereotypical and, as a result, seems to be more of a slap in the face than genuine representation. Luckily, I do feel like this has gotten better over the years, but there are still times where it's very clumsily represented in media.

[@idapetersson345]

And a lot of the time, a character's sexuality isn't relevant to the story. There could be loads of LGBTQ characters but we just don't know them well enough

[@lucyb5673]

also the fact that the only East Asian character was given the name "cho Chang" and a black character being named "Kingsley SHACKLEBOLT"

[@Filotea.Atanasova]

Bloody hell, people are way too sensitive!

[@omarbaba9892]

I mean, come on though with the child abuse stuff and r@pe potion

[@moviemelody2210]

@@omarbaba9892these are still very relevant topics and therefore aged just fine

[@omarbaba9892]

@@moviemelody2210 I mean like, the r@pe potion was definitely glorified given the fact the twins literally sold it in their shop

[@moviemelody2210]

@@omarbaba9892I conced that you do have a point their. I guess I just mean the idea of the love potion aged fine not necessarily where it was sold

[@He-Man00]

Also isn't it sort of problematic that Albus Dumbledore not only employs but let's him Teach kids, Snape? Snape who was basically a nazi (who turned coat) who mentally abuses and torments kids . Dumbledore never seem to take issue with this? Nor the fact that Snape shows clear bias. It's weird, even Harry barely brings this up. He only ever brings up Snape in relation to himself and their shared history. Not once (that I can think of) is Dumbledore ever challenged on WHY HE ALLOWS SNAPE TO BULLY KIDS

[@nialgeorge]

New intro is epic!!

[@grec.]

I read the books constantly and yes, i was thinking about the fat shaming. Obesity is bad, but using slurs insulting people's appearances to provoke destain for certain character is not good. And also i kept thinking about Hermione and Vickor's relationship. I was like "bruh, i mean, wft 😳" i never reslized that Viktor was that older than Hermione. The age gap was/is concerning (i always thought Viktor was like 16 at most).

[@whirl43]

Victor Krum became drake for an entire book and movie

[@audrey2181]

I see a lot of people saying that the fat shaming is not a big deal, because the people fat shamed are the villains of the story. I think you don't see through the right angle. The problem is not the insult of the bad characters, but the fact that there is not a positive character that is fat, and not shamed for it. (Neville who is chubby, is the victim of Drago and his gang, until he shape up) Crabbe and Goyle are big and stupid, wich is also a cliché about fat people, same goes for the Dursleys. Even Ron in the movies is the butt of a bunch of fat jokes, because he is a bit of a gluttony.(he is also dumbed down a bit, wich goes along with the cliché again) The fat shaming come from the lack of balance in the representation of the fat people. (I get that the Dursleys are fat as a comparison to Harry who is malnourrished, wich is a way to emphatise the mistreatment he receive and the menace they project) The story lack of a nice and strong chubby character (well actually we have Molly, but she is not really a character that children can identify with).

[@Person-wz6iy]

Why couldn't Dumbledore, just like put charms on the Dursleys, so they'd treat Harry well, but also still let him go to Hogwarts.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

@@Person-wz6iy He could’ve but that’s not who he is.

[@tsugambler]

@@Evoker23-lx8mb Yeah, I don't think adult Dumbledore would be OK with taking away people's free will.

[@Capnasa]

that would have aged worse, also you are supposed to feel bad for harry.

[@sawanna508]

If Harry''s live with the Dursleys is that of a very traditional british hero like David Copperfield. Also his entry in the Wizard World were he is someone important would not feel so wonderful. His first chrimas at Hogwarts would not be as wonderful if he had gotten at least some presents before. It is so wonderful because he never got any presents before. Of course his mistreatment could have been tuned down a bit and Dumbledore might seem crule for not stepping in but is that something we really would have wanted?

[@joshuahecht6866]

Dumbledore could have talked to them in person and force them to be nice to their adopted child. Otherwise, he will come for them and remember their deeds.

[@mrigankjain8626]

I think it’s important to recognize that the story is set in 1991-1998. And Harry is raised by the Durselys starting in 1981. Child abuse was not treated with nearly as much severity at this time as it would be in 2024. Also, the dursleys really cared about their reputation, if they were abusing Harry behind closed doors, this is not something they would want people finding out about. So they would make sure to keep it a secret.

[@sebastianbaldeo3209]

oh no we found a drake clone get the cops! 8:02

[@iamawesome4026]

There is a fanfic called The Best Revenge where Snape and Mcgonncal use charms and stuff to treat Harry right and have him do stuff with Snape.

[@kshitijaa1301]

It is super intriguing to see how the TV show adapts all these things to make it entertaining without offending anyone or turning some heads. Considering society today, many things have to ve changed in the show. I love your videos btw.❤

[@seanrogers9129]

I feel that some of the names Rowling gave to her characters didn’t age well. To be specific, i mean names like Seamus Finnigan, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Parvati and Padma Patil, and Fleur Delacour as while some of them are plausible, they are also considered stereotypical by some fans based on the character’s ethnicity or nationality, and I can see where they’re coming from. Then there’s the name Cho Chang, which has become very controversial as most say it’s not a real name and that it sounds to a racial slur.

[@seanrogers9129]

However, I don’t believe that that should affect most fans love for this series, mine as well.

[@mjb6442]

​@@seanrogers9129I remember reading the books as a kid and thinking Cho was a pretty name. But I get you.

[@Yourleicestercityfan]

Morgan I have been watching your for like 6 years

[@M.A.C.01]

The love potions were always seen as immoral in Harry Potter. Marope using a love Potion on Tom Riddle senior is suppose to show how messed up that actually is.

[@user-yu6wt4id6g]

These aged well except for the love potion people are too sensitive

[@monaeckle]

Ah yes, racism, fatphobia, slurs, antisemitism, homophobia, SA, adults dating minors, child abuse and slavery definitely aged well. Are you even listening to yourself?

[@jackmellor5536]

Somebody could write a best-selling novel today, and it'll be outdated within 10 years. Let a lone 30.

[@ameers1]

I feel like the WORST thing the harry potter fandom ever created that did not age well is.. Draco x harry💀💀

[@LazyOldFusspot_3428]

Drapple

[@TaylorG88]

Love potions were bad when it was written. No need for it to age badly.

[@izzyeasy]

People are too sensitive nowdays...

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

yup

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

It’s weird love potions are allowed when they work kind of like the Imperius Curse with depriving the character of their free will.

[@miguelsantos-cd9tu]

9:15 Sorry, but if you need LGBT's character in Harry Potter's media to like books and movies, you are not fan. You like to see yourself in media.

[@tommyroberts4577]

For the abuse harry sustained Also dumbledore knew he had to stay at 4 privet drive. When Vernon tried to kick him out the house, dumbledore told petunia to "remember his last" dumbledore knew he had to stay

[@ChickenBiryani2247]

Tbh, not having lgbtq character does not matter, even in today’s world. The story is not at all related to that, so JK didnt need to include things about this.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

true

[@Roter_Lotus]

Damn right!

[@josecuestas7246]

In real life, i wonder which could be the sentence of the Dursleys for their abuse toware Harry, that consisted in neglectment like forces him to uses worn clothes, child working to forces him to makes the chores, forces him to sleep in a cupboard, starves him, and allows that a rabid dog had him in a tree for long time.

[@johnni-raecalzada2500]

I think it would be several years in prison

[@syrianaspect6281]

Harry Potter is 27 years old???? It seams like 3

[@angelaslayz]

38

[@sawanna508]

And Harry as a character would be 44 four by now.

[@emilydwelch3962]

Honestly, I wouldn’t change a single thing about the series.

[@ChrisPTY507]

Given how sensitive people are these days, it's basically impossible not to offend anyone. Most people are emotionally weak

[@chillinchili5683]

basically all these things mentioned in the video are part of everyday life and these weak snowflakes nowadays getting offended by everything. xdd i'm actually ashamed that i'm gen Z (although I rather consider myself zillenial or even millenial). hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create weak men.

[@ChrisPTY507]

@@chillinchili5683 Agreed. But I must say that, as a millennial, this nonsense has been taking place even on my generation. I can’t even imagine the future generations in regards to their oversensitivity to anything that goes against their preconceived biases: it will be like walking on eggshells when talking to almost anyone about the most mundane of things…

[@monaeckle]

Thinking that racism, fatphobia, slurs, antisemitism, homophobia, SA, adults dating minors, child abuse and slavery are not okay isn't been sensitive, that's just basic human decency.