8 Times You Should Have Killed Your Nemesis Much Earlier, Saved Hassle

[@Zac99]

I don't know why but I will always laugh at the palpatine scene in the Force Unleashed. Just the way he says "and then you will die" fucking kills me every time.

[@Prince__Teclis]

same! he sounds so casual

[@edited115]

lol

[@twanduvigneau5809]

hahhaha lol

[@CurtisAlfeld]

It's been years since I've played Force Unleashed, and when they showed that clip I honestly thought it was some fan creation. Seriously, it sounds exactly like something you'd see on Robot Chicken.

[@MrPidi86]

No wonder it kills you, Palpatine told you that you were gonna die.

[@willieoelkers5568]

The Jedi: "No, don't kill in anger, that's bad." Me: "I'm not, I calmly thought about it and decided that since this guy already wiped out the Jedi and is ruling the galaxy with an iron fist and has plans for a planet destroying weapon, he needs to die." What now Jedi?

[@moodymoosh]

Ye, but why are all the Sith's lightsabers cooler. Like I've never seen a jedi with a different saber.

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

@@moodymoosh windu

[@moodymoosh]

@@justarandomtechpriest1578 i don't recall Windu having a lightsaber that has multiple blades, a different shape, etc.

[@codyboothe2310]

Which is why Spock was star trek not star wars

[@Dovah_Slayer]

​@moodymoosh4462 there was a jedi in legends (who's name escapes me at the moment) with a double bladed lightsaber (that also didn't immediately turn to the darkside like pong Krell)

[@Zyk0th]

I love the way Emperor Palpatine says "And then you will die." It's like he says that more of an afterthought then originally part of his plan.

[@edsapien548]

The timing was quite comedic wasnt it😂 i thought only i saw it

[@ToreDL87]

Yeah he said a lot of things as if in mere afterthought. "And then we shall have...... ... peace!"

[@andimason3370]

The force unleashed one got to me too. "Don't strike him down out of anger". Fine... but how about pragmatism? Or common sense? Can I strike him down out of those?

[@tyrant-den884]

I am the first person to defend the Jedi and the light-side (Anny could have just left the order, but nooo, being a master was more important than his wife) and even I think it was stupid.

[@Dust514rocks]

Yeah, even with what he said, sometimes it can be more noble to sacrifice ones soul for the greater good. Plus starkiller could always commit honourable suicide afterwards lol

[@When_did_they_add_handles]

I absolutely hated it when Kota kept me from killing Palpatine. If the game devs can't let me kill Palpatine for the sake of preserving the Star Wars timeline, they shouldn't give my character the chance to kill Palpatine and then make me watch said chance be pointlessly wasted because of that Light Side nonsense.

[@slb797]

Uncle Sam And yet the 2nd one ends with u somehow capturing Vader...how was the timeline preserved that time devs?

[@Ghidorah96]

implying Vader throwing Sidious down the shaft wasn't the right thing to do... These fools have no idea how to star wars

[@estebson]

...and then in the second ending you *kill* Vader. And then you die. So much for preserving the timeline,eh?~

[@mehmzay3022]

Just give ut multiple endings fuck lmao

[@mehmzay3022]

@@estebson oh Well give it even another ending 😬😬😬

[@guardian9394]

To be fair, I don't think not killing scrotus was a mistake on Max's part, because he tried REALLY hard to kill him and any normal person would've died from such a wound.

[@WingedSebas]

True.

[@tweetug3697]

Well,Scrotus is basically really hard to kill but in the end we kill him with a few Thunderpoons lol

[@guardian9394]

+Tweetug 36 True, not many can stand up to the might of a thundering poon.

[@TrenchCoatDingo]

theres a chainsaw blade through your head Tis but a flesh wound

[@patrickmccurry1563]

Any real world animal let alone human would have died from that. I didn't know zombie super human monsters existed in Mad Max. Weird.

[@kiera6646]

I can't believe there's a villain named Scrotus.

[@deathmoonnn]

+Kiera Bolden ikr it isn't that treating unless his name was big scrotus

[@beenhereallalong9093]

Japan

[@gownerjones2]

+Kiera Bolden It's Mad Max, what did you expect?

[@jimboycalloway1000]

+Kiera Bolden Theres also a character in the game named Rim Jobbie

[@LAnimeMaster]

+Kiera Bolden I hear he's a real dick.

[@CreedofDarkness]

Ah Pagan Min... one of the few villains I just couldn't bring myself to hate. More often than not, I was amused with his flamboyant persona, his straightforward but somehow eloquent mannerisms, and seriously, that suit!

[@MrMeddyman]

8 times you stood within reach of the antagonists at the start of the game

[@PeterParker-zu8js]

yes

[@jezd2223]

Mr. B the adventure pals.

[@skrumblebumpkis5460]

8 times a mass effect character held someone at gunpoint but didn't take the shot

[@AJadedLizard]

You actually can kill Makarov during No Russian...and then fail the mission for failing to gain his trust. Yeah...

[@danielramsey6141]

Screw the trust part. Trust only goes so far.

[@BATCHARRO]

I bet you handlers are all like "You idiot, now he won't trust you! You're fired!"

[@Temmmpla]

I don't see that as "Game over" I see that as "good job, you really did us a favor by stopping world war 3"

[@DutchGabbers]

They would not know WW3 would happen now would they? USA government logic.. Intervene or tackle a problem when it is to late. And just TRY to do some damage control once the mess is happening.

[@twayland6186]

DutchGabbers you dont sound like a child at all

[@davrulesdawurld]

I accidentally shot Makarov a few times, everytime I killed him the mission failed.

[@JoshuaRobertMoser]

And that's bullshit for which the programmers should lose their jobs.

[@death299]

+Joshua Moser why? in that situation the moment you rose your weapon like that you'd be dead similiar has happened to spies and agents before even if you HAD managed to kill him (unlikely) you would've turned him into a matyr, making it even more difficult to oppose the ideals he was after plus, not your job you were there to gather intel not kill the king a spy is never supposed to try and kill but rather do whatever they must undercover cops do this regularly (drugs, murder, torture..nasty affair) all you killing him would do is hasten war, and make the group you're fighting against near impossible to hunt and destroy sure shit went south due to sheperd..but no one knew that at the time, thus you were supposed to obey your orders besides a 3ish mission game would be...well bad even for a CoD game

[@clone3_7]

So, a world war would have still happened if Makarov and his crew would be dead along with a CIA agent?

[@death299]

TK-315 CloneM most likely, sherperd was playing you from the go, meaning that they most likely had backups The thing about killing a groups leader..is often it causes dissarray then a reformation quickly with people now having a renewed reason to fight 4 people weren't the entire group, and given all the effort and planning i'd wager there was a backup in the works in case sheperd or markarov died

[@UnitScout]

I tried to kill him too but we couldn't because the game said no that is not how our story goes.

[@utzadgame8047]

To be fair, I bet if Laura did shoot him, she would be shot by his guards

[@vembernov]

*Lara

[@1money11]

so she destroyed a tomb instead....selfish bitch

[@elliottblair31]

+Erin Byrne no one cares

[@leoblackwood8380]

Force him to the back of the tomb, shoot him, blow the detonator.

[@Sniper13111]

Well he also would of had a level 3 - 4 plate carrier witch would have stopped the 45 apc or 9mm round allowing Konstantin to live

[@guicaldo7164]

That's what really annoyed me about The Force Unleashed! I mean, goddammit! Does killing the worst man in the galaxy to save 2 billion people really lead you to the dark side? I mean, Starkiller didn't have to "strike him down in anger". He could have just done it for the greater good.

[@guicaldo7164]

Bloodybeans Sometimes, they can be, I agree on that. At least Mace Windu didn't do the same mistake... before Anakin cut his hands off.

[@canadian__ninja]

Real talk, it was a cop out to ensure there was a meaningful ending to the game, AND kept continuity to the movies

[@guicaldo7164]

James Brooks I know, but it's still annyoing.

[@bthy384]

Gui Caldo Yea. Even Yoda tried to kill the emperor.

[@Patrick-Phelan]

Look, I'm still pro-no-killing, but Kota clearly had the wrong things to say there. "He's beaten. Let it go." is a terrible idea. "He's beaten. Put your knee in his back and tie his hands behind him so he can't Force Lightning anyone and gag him so he can't speak for a Mind Trick, and then we can cart him off for a trial and proper punishment/neutralisation." is still PERFECTLY Light Side and wouldn't have gotten everyone murdered.

[@vc180191]

MGS3, ultimate case of this actually done right. You get a ten second window early on where the third main boss of the game, The End, is just sitting in a wheelchair, before being carted off into a warehouse by the guards. Perfect opportunity to kill the old bugger with a few sniper rounds, and completely avoid the 3rd boss later in the game (I wouldn't suggest it though, The End is a freakin awesome boss fight, but the opportunity to down possibly the most dangerous and difficult boss of the game early is there if you wish to take it).

[@bliczb8772]

+vc180191 And that's why I like Metal Gear Series. It have a good idea, that some of the games should learn. But now, it would be just a destroyed franchise on pachinko machines. Thanks Konami.

[@bliczb8772]

***** Poor old-timer. The End had 100 years on his neck if no more, and he died waiting for some sneaky fuck.

[@Dracinard]

ThePolohetfan276 Same boss in the same game, actually! That's a way to deal with the End if you don't snipe him, but you miss out on an awesome boss fight. And if you wait less than... I think it's a week?... for the End to die of old age, he'll be right behind you when you reload the save. Damn... MGS3 really was the best of the series. Controls were rubbish compared to MGSV, of course, but it was a much tighter game overall, with so many clever little interactions. And a sense of humor, and an incredible theme song. And you got to fight a Russian giant with electric knuckles, a living hive of bees, a vampiric spider monkey looking mercenary, the 100 year old "grandfather of sniping" with photosynthetic skin, and two ghosts, one of whom jumps around in a space suit with a flamethrower. It was amazing.

[@Markgangzta]

You will be interrogated...endenuwilldie.

[@starkiller0235]

Lol that had me dying

[@1234ommot]

on par with 'DEWIT'

[@Onyx1987]

KEELHIM

[@killerkid2028]

AAA hahhahaahahahah

[@abramtroy6099]

Bless you

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

Mad max doesn't count. Max damn well tried to kill scrotus, but then got thrown off.

[@Jonnyg325]

I mean, the chances of a guy not dying from chainsaw to the head are 1 in a million, so yeah, not nax's fault

[@zackarynigbor7821]

I would have to agree under normal normal circumstances anything that has its skull pierced would be considered dead

[@CloudHiro]

@@Jonnyg325 not to mention medical tech is pretty much non existant so it should be even more impossible to survive that

[@ishinomorileon]

know what's cool? From this list you made, I bet Tom Baker would be so proud. *Both Pagan Min and Joker...were him. Well, at least, his voice.*

[@outsidexbox]

And Joseph Allen!

[@LOLWUT8D]

+Leon Ishinomori Wow, Doctor Who, Pagan Min, and The Joker?! Tom Baker sure has range.

[@SaltDoesArt]

Tom Baker...?

[@pavetheshave]

+Leon Ishinomori Bruh, it's Troy Baker. Tom Baker was Doctor Who in the 70's

[@Spence1115]

+Josh Niquette God, only now have I realised how much I want the Joker voiced by Tom Baker...

[@MasterCode3000]

"if you kill a killer the number of killers in the world stays the same"-Batman.

[@brownking96]

Not like the number of victims would drop considerably.

[@MasterCode3000]

yeah true

[@brownking96]

Batman is the true villain.

[@MasterCode3000]

I guess so like in arkam city just let them do.

[@Mousekins]

idk man if I kill two killers that makes me a killer and one less -rival- killer. I don't think Batman thought that through very well.

[@ArcticTemper]

Great video, do a video about the times the Antagonist could totally have killed the good guys and won? :D

[@howlingwestyseacaps8841]

Yes!

[@packiemcreary7188]

+ArcticTemper Yesssssss

[@mrwindupbird101]

+ArcticTemper That's like 60% of games. The "Villain Monologue" trope exists for a reason lol

[@dandunning7731]

+mrwindupbird101 I can't say or hear the word monologue without thinking of Syndrome :P

[@lucasgray9846]

I agree

[@Akehiko_Urabaya]

Some of these would have ended with the main character dying instantly

[@bomapdich]

+Edvinas Tamošaitis I know, the Lara one like if she shoot him right there, wouldn't the guards fuck her up, although she has regenerating hp so :))

[@davidspring4003]

+Edvinas Tamošaitis like shooting the villain in front of his intensely loyal army. Also, Batman wouldnt' have let Joker, who he didn't know would be his arch, die, and he couldn't kill either Bane OR Joker.

[@chavamara]

+Edvinas Tamošaitis It's for the greater good. :P

[@S3rp3rior]

+David Spring Plus doing nothing to stop someone from dying when you could save them some people feel they just as much killed them. Knowing Batsy, he would've.

[@davidspring4003]

S3rp3rior except in Batman Begins when he let Ra'z die.

[@Outlaw7263]

I would have worked with Pagan Min if it meant I could kill both amita and sabal

[@hydra5758]

I said I would kill Amita, only to spare her and later hunt her down somewhere in the mountains and THEN kill her, complete the game and then kill Sabal on the one holy island. It was fun to say the least.

[@hydra5758]

Yeah, Pagan Min ironically appears to be the best person of the three.

[@Outlaw7263]

Philip Whan i know right

[@enzojobert3848]

I just think Pagan is a cool guy... is that so wrong?

[@rerditirerthz5568]

+Outlaw7263 Sabal was a pedophile?

[@KoinzellGaming]

Pagan Min is literally the "Good" person in Far Cry 4 if you paid any attention to the story. The Golden Path simply wants to make a terrorist state (Or Drug country.).. Pagan tried to improve the country at the very least. The stabbing is done because he takes drastic measures against Golden Path (Which is a terrorist group.) and the reason for the stabbing at the start is because his orders weren't listened and they risked his "Son's" life. I think the best part is the hidden ending at the start, as that would've been the most logical outcome.. And it was put into the game. xD

[@isaacgleeth3609]

Imagine all the times in-game where the entire game could be avoided if you just listened to what someone said instead of being curious.

[@OneWingedHoneybee]

It's been a while since I played FC4, but I believe Pagan was completely sane and a semi-good man in the past, until Ajay's father killed Pagan's baby daughter, who was Ajay's half sister. And Ajay's father was a member of the Golden Path. Hearing that story, and how the rest of the Path idolized Ajay's dad, made me realise how messed up they all are. Pagan started out with good intentions but how do you treat the group that killed your baby kindly and fairly?

[@Neakco]

I kind of wish we could follow Pagan at the beginning and go against the hidden path.

[@TrueFlameslinger]

@@Neakco I mean, you CAN just sit at the table and wait (although I have no clue when that happens).

[@thesoulofcinder4811]

The first thing came to my mind was Libyan civil war

[@aron_wyn]

Lara didn't shoot Konstantin because he had more than a dozen men there with him. I know Lara is a badass, but I feel in this situation she wouldn't have been able to survive.

[@Nyerguds]

At least in Assassin's Creed, it was canonically completely moronic in the storyline.

[@silverwolf2676]

So moronic you teacher stabs you and demotes you to new recruit

[@chriswhite7565]

In rise of the tomb raider I think she didn't shoot because a bunch of other people had guns on her

[@AKAdaJoker14]

i was thinking that the entire time, cheers for common sense.

[@maj1166]

That's what I said

[@migraine9402]

Coulda shot him in the face then jumped into the coffin

[@AKAdaJoker14]

+Supreme Randomlynessish and then there would've been no game to play

[@bluhmer1990]

And she had the never to say "shoot him in the heart." HE'S WEARING A BULLET PROOF VEST!

[@zackityzoobz2536]

9:14 "You're right hand comes off?" How did I not see this before

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

This one of the reasons I loved the original Deus Ex. You were able to kill bosses before the boss fights using underhanded methods. (i.e. Planting a bomb before they monologue, sniping them as they are discussing their evil plans, saying phrases that would make them explode) The early Fallout Games had that feature as well.

[@WackoZacko1]

to be fair putting a chainsaw through someones head is definetely trying your best

[@roguebard]

*Lara shoots bad guy* *Bad guy's henchmen shoot Lara.* We were dealing with cut scene logic there, not in-game. Only when you are in control of a character can you survive multiple gunshot wounds. Not when cinematic/'realistic' logic is applied.

[@krys889]

+Rogue Bard She should've shot him and then immediately hid in the coffin where she would blow the place up, or just activated the explosives and shot him as he was running.

[@Dreez76]

Like i always say, all those people the Joker has killed, their blood is on Batman's hands because he refuses to kill the Joker.

[@alexeistrife56]

...No. They aren't. They're on the Joker's hands. Refusing to kill someone doesn't mean that anyone they kill is your responsibility, or your guilt to bear. That's asinine.

[@Dreez76]

Alexei Strife The Joker is someone that is a waste of air, he should've been killed long ago... Batman failing to realise this and putting a stop to it, is just as guilty of those murders as the joker, because he ENABLED Joker to keep killing by not ending him.

[@HankJ666]

+Dreez76 This makes a lot of sense actually

[@Dreez76]

***** That's why my favorite hero is Rorschach from Watchmen. He's willing to go that extra mile to make sure that evil will never do evil again.

[@mrwindupbird101]

If you decide to become a superhero you are already bending the law to suit your own idea of morality and in doing so, how you handle villains is your responsibility. If you know that someone is without a doubt unable to be rehabilitated and will always get out of that rotating door called Arkham, it falls on you to do what must be done. Saying it isn't Batman's responsibility is like you seeing your neighbors house on fire and being like "Well I didn't start it so if it kills anybody it's not really my fault if I don't tell anyone". Except for that analogy to work, it'd have to be probably a few million houses considering Joker's kill count.

[@MeKaNiNjA8]

"If we kill the Emperor now, we'll save millions more lives from the dark side!" "Nah man, I'm sure he's a good guy, he's just misunderstood, let him live."

[@mrmcjeff385]

Assassin's Creed 2 There's a mission where you have to tail literally ALL of the remaining templar leaders including Rodrigo Borgia to eavesdrop on their plans, but if you go up and murder every last one of them then you FAIL the mission - this also leads to assassin's creed brotherhood happening where your entire town is destroyed and your uncle is shot in the head. Good job Ezio.

[@bobtehguy2989]

...

[@mrmcjeff385]

Bob TheBest What?

[@WhatIsSanity]

+Whacky Fishi Spoiler alert. Though anyone that is surprised that there will be plot reveals in the comments with a video of this title is a damn fool.

[@mrmcjeff385]

Well honestly even if they weren't expecting spoilers in the comments (which if not WHY NOT?), You literally had to read to the very end to find the spoilers And honestly the game's Six years old if you haven't played it already then sorry bro but spoilers are only spoilers when it's relatively recent

[@hardwirecars]

+Whacky Fishi that would be me i had not finnished the game but dont plan to either so thanks. now dick heads that talk about star wars 7 i want to murder them!

[@thatblutf2pyro261]

9:14 Leon: "You're right hand comes off?" 10/10 grammar.

[@nowhereman6019]

To be fair, if you pushed a chain-saw through someone's head you'd expect they die.

[@Pl4sm4Ro4ch]

+Sean Drum yeah, just a minor detail i guess, next time push the chainsaw all the way through.

[@Torthrodhel]

You didn't understand that bit in RoTR, then. She wasn't the only one pointing a gun at someone; all of those trained mercenaries were pointing their guns at her whilst her and Constantin were talking. That's why she needed to find a different way out of the situation, and her gun-to-the-chest thing was a bluff to buy time. If she had have just shot him there and then? Then she would've been quickly killed by the many mercenaries pointing their guns at her, angry that she just killed their boss (and paycheck means) and rightfully not about to take and chances with someone who wouldn't think twice about killing them too. Her pretending to be all reasonable and going all like "look, you got me - honest voice now"? More buying time whilst she thought of and enacted that sleight of hand which actually ended up being pretty much her only option. So, no... not a short-lived crisis of conscience at all. A time-buying bluff for a strategic manoeuvre, in the midst of an otherwise-unwinnable situation.

[@pepsiipep7842]

+Jane Ross Exactly. If she shot him she would be dead instantly.

[@flyboymike111357]

She was aiming right at his body armor, if she shot him he would just be pissed.

[@pepsiipep7842]

Mike Mac She could quickly aim up and headshot him. But as established earlier. She would be dead in a second.

[@Torthrodhel]

It's funny how "pissed" means angry for people who speak American. Over here it means "drunk" and it's quite hilarious whenever someone says "he'd be pissed" and it's all like "but he hasn't even touched a drop!" lol I can imagine her shooting him in the chest and he suddenly stumbles over with a big grin and says "I fuckin' love you Lara mate, you're my best mate you know that? Let's go jump sideways and kill some tigers" and Lara's all like "okay, okay, I think you've had enough now let's get you a taxi and go for a kebab or something" and he goes "ooh what kind of kebab" and she's like "I'm a posh burd, I have zebra or swan" and then he goes "let's get some hookers and make the place look crowded" and she's like "shit I would but Winston normally deals with that kinda thing and he needs to thaw out first" so he pushes her down a physics engine and she says "aaaaaah!".

[@flyboymike111357]

Jane Ross That is a funny image.

[@andrewkuban5701]

Resident Evil 7, the old lady just lays around the house while you explore.

[@zakazany1945]

You just don't know better about what she really is

[@thezachvolt6883]

I think we can excuse Rise of the Tomb Raider from this list because there were, like, what, 4 men with AK-47s aimed at Lara.

[@pepsiipep7842]

+The Zachvolt Yes

[@WingedSebas]

I was thinking the same thing while watching that part of the video.

[@Nukem9999]

Yup. She shoots him, then she gets shot approximately 200 times in retaliation. All things considered, blowing up the tomb was probably about the only way she was getting out of that alive.

[@MouldMadeMind]

@@Nukem9999 this is just stupid in another way.

[@thejazzienerd3780]

Do the flip side. Times villains could have killed you (or let you die) but didn't, for some reason. Number 1? Skyrim.

[@cptseagrave1191]

+The JazzieNerd To be fair, Alduin didn't know you were the dragonborn, and was attacking the entire town by himself. He could've either killed the unarmed prisoner with his hands tied, or the guards shooting arrows at him.

[@thejazzienerd3780]

Yeah, but what about Kynesgrove?

[@cptseagrave1191]

He sent another dragon to kill you. He addresses the dovahkiin, and then tells the newly revived dragon to kill you and Delphine. This isn't the Western Watchtower where you and a detachment of guards killed a dragon, just you and a tavern owner. He might have thought that one dragon would be enough that time.

[@66Roses]

I always wanted to team up with Pagan Min.

[@CrystaJoy]

Pagan Min wasn't any worse than the golden path....I loved him.

[@Cceternal]

Best Far Cry villain

[@humbertovasquez6185]

Halal Memes I always thought hoyt was the best villian

[@isaacgleeth3609]

"I like this phone. It is a nice fucking phone."

[@veronica_hon]

props on the resident evil 4 bit man, had me laughing the whole time

[@Ryattt81]

I love the captions for these videos...best so far just happened. The Tomb Raider cup where Lara says "found you" was captioned as "pouchy". That was awesome.

[@awsmedude2739]

To be honest, Lara didn't kill him because she was surrounded by enemies, so if she shot him she would've been murdified by like.. Eight million bullets

[@gaymanlover]

What hes trying to say is when she heard the baddies about to open the tomb, she should've set off the explosives to kill them by surprise.

[@BlackAirProductions]

+Awsmedude Well she did duck into the Tomb before blowing it up. So she could have shot him and ducked before he fell and then blew it up

[@awsmedude2739]

+Daniel West she didn't have the detonator when she was hiding from them

[@awsmedude2739]

+The1Commissar I doubt she'd have enough time, the only reason they didn't shoot her before she blew the thing up was because they didn't know if she would actually blow them all to smithereens (and honestly they probably should've shot her as soon as she popped up but.. Game logic), so maybe if she had the detonator she should've shot him? But then I'd wager they would just open fire anyway..

[@BlackAirProductions]

Awsmedude Well they didn't shoot at first because he basically said not too as well as walked up to her. But she did steal the detonator and could have easily while she had that point blank range (her gun is in his chest) shot to shoot him, his body would be able to stop any relation for about 5 seconds more than long enough to duck into the tomb and press the button.

[@basicoptimalmouse]

What monster would kill Pagan Min? Dude's a legend.

[@GlennDavey]

I found a way to kill Caesar in Fallout: New Vegas very early, as soon as I got to his camp. Didn't affect the game much at all, the Legion still existed and the 2nd in charge just took over from Caesar. But for the rest of the game everyone was talking about Caesar's death and it got repetitive, because I was definitely supposed to do it later on, as revealed by a second playthrough.

[@JohnLockley23]

LOGHAIN. That mother-flipping power mad snake in the grass should've been eaten by an Ogre at Ostagar.

[@xytren8974]

Right!!!

[@DeathBy_Chair]

Did anyone honestly trust that guy? His face screams main villain

[@JohnLockley23]

Pretty sure it was the eyebrows.

[@DeathBy_Chair]

+Jake Johnson Thats my point stupid general could have blamed darkspawn but nope lets blame the only people capable of slaying Archdemons

[@JohnLockley23]

If I recall correctly, Cailan just wanted to forge an alliance with the Orlesians through marriage, and Loghain considered that a betrayal.

[@SrmegaCabra]

You know what would have made Far Cry 4 baller as fuck? Getting the option at the very start of the game to side with Pagan Min and being able to play the entire game obliterating the rebels.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

+SrmegaCabra just like in skyrim,either be with the just empire,or side with the great assholes stromjerks

[@SrmegaCabra]

I know about that, I mean the actual opportunity to play out the entire game as Pagan Min's enforcer rather than opposing him.

[@pepsiipep7842]

Yeah... I'd shoot a guy while 5 other soldiers have a clear shot on me. If Lara shot him she would be dead in a second. And Batman doesn't kill. But he wouldn't kill him if he let him fall... But if video games learned me anything... It's too finish someone the first chance you get.

[@TheHutchy01]

Fallout 4, one condom and the villain never exists.

[@user-ql7jv9bn2x]

TheHutchy01 lol

[@madjesterguy2369]

damnit I just got my town started no spoilers

[@guyfawkes3940]

I hate it whenever that happens, when you play the entire game just because someone couldn't do something right in the beginning. "You had one job ..." The plot has to make sense, you must play the rest of the game for a legitimate reason. If the protagonist was unable to stop the bad guy(s) for example, then it's only logical that you're playing the entire game just to right your wrongs and set things straight. Not if you've had plenty of chances to stop the bad guy in the beginning, and then fail to do so. Makes me play thinking "Now I've got to clean up your mess." That is never a good thought to play a game with.

[@pillestyrer]

We so need a game where this is possible. A game with like a branching storyline, where it's possible to kill your nemesis right at the start, but if you do, another chain of events happen. And you're just given choice upon choice that makes the story different.

[@timothymclean]

Which is weirder-Batman not being willing to kill even the worst of the worst (despite being the grittiest big-name DC hero), or Lara Croft not being _un_willing to deface or destroy priceless, unique archaeological finds for little to no reason (despite nominally being an archaeologist)?

[@annonymousvector1690]

+Timothy McLean Still Batman. If you have seen, "Under the Red Hood", Jason Todd kinda makes a point with Batman with the whole "stupidly ignoring the graveyard's he has filled" thing. That is the 1 aspect of B-Man that I really hate. I'm assuming the only reason the Joker is still alive is cuz DC fans loves the Joker too much and that he drives the plot.

[@ChaoticSphere27]

It's funny cause in MGS3 you can snipe The End before you even encounter him and skip his entire boss fight completely :>

[@colecanady227]

I actually planned to do that, but there were guys around him and I completely forgot

[@ChaoticSphere27]

+Cole Canady you can also skip his fight if you wait a week (just set your console's clock a week forward) when you fight him. He dies of old age and you skip his fight :3

[@timothymclean]

+ChaoticNightmare Isn't that the guy who dies of old age if you put the game down for a week or so?

[@ChaoticSphere27]

+Timothy McLean Yesh but you can also snipe him before hand after a cutscene plays. You have to snipe him before a guard comes in to take him away. One headshot, and boom, no more boss fight :)

[@luzcro7345]

+ChaoticNightmare. Wouldn't that be a good list for another day. :)

[@yanchebanche]

Skyrim. You meet with the main antagonist twice before you actually kill him, once in the very beginning of the game and once you fight him, but he escapes

[@Poldovico]

Yeah, but in that instance you actually can't kill him.

[@thereallybadanimationshow3277]

It is 3 times

[@ruttsuco.804]

at the beginning you stood no chance.

[@HankJ666]

Yeah because without the thu´um to make him fall to the ground you have a LOT of possibilities to kill him Skyrim is easy but not THAT easy

[@penguinplayz112]

yanchebanche Also Alduin can only be killed in sovengarde

[@flashgordonsthemesong2838]

It doesn't matter how many times I play it, I still never forgive the Call of Duty story-line for NOT LETTING ME JUST KILL MAKAROV. Was the CIA worried about retaliation? Makarov and two of his highest ranking officers were right in the open. I mean, it's not like he even sent hired guns to do the dirty work... HE WAS RIGHT THERE. And he escaped a besieged airport in a van. IN A VAN. Did all of MOSCOW not have A SINGLE POLICE HELICOPTER AVAILABLE TO TAIL THE INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST THAT JUST SHOT UP AN AIRPORT? Did the CIA really only send one operative after Makarov? They didn't even have a contingency plan? And then, Russia, the country that can't successfully defend an airport against four guys, manages to invade almost every major U.N. Member in the world, including the U.S., England, and France. AT THE SAME TIME. Oh, and let's not mention the fact that an unregistered nuclear missiles was launched at Washington D.C. without any retaliation whatsoever, and without any apparent concern on the part of the Russian government that, oh, I don't know... SOMEONE JUST SNUCK INTO A NAVAL BASE AND LAUNCHED ONE OF OUR NUCLEAR MISSILES?! I got seriously carried away here, but I think I've made my point.

[@thegigmasterjr6643]

+Flash Gordons Themesong Call of Duty logic.

[@theboojahideen3551]

To be fair, COD games have more plot holes than your average Swiss cheese

[@mrwindupbird101]

+Flash Gordons Themesong Seriously I mean say the agent you are playing as "goes rogue" and immediately shoots Makarov and his crew right when they go to step out of the elevator. Once the officials realize he had just offed the world's most wanted he'd have been a hero who averted WW3....instead you shoot a bunch of civilians and cops because...something.

[@headshotgaming2984]

+Logan Grimnar Swiss cheese have plot holes?

[@Knalxz]

+Flash Gordons Themesong Literally all Allen would have to do is during the elevator ride pulling the pin on a grenade and scream. "NO RUSSIAN!" and save the world.

[@jinhunterslay1638]

Might as well put every single AC game up there where the *DAMN ASSASSIN WON'T USE HIS/HER DAMN GUN IN A CUTSCENE*

[@KefkeWren]

AC2 that part where you have to tail the Templars, listening to them discuss their evil plans of evilness, have every opportunity to take out their leader and several other members of the order at the same time, and _fail the mission_ for doing so, even though it would absolutely have prevented everything that goes wrong later.

[@ianvalkenborgh]

What about Assassin's Creed 2? At the end Ezio just fights and knocks Rodrigo down instead of really killing him. Which set Assassin's Creed brotherhood in motion; Rodrigo escapes and decides to have your hometown destroyed, killing Ezio's uncle (one of the few family members he has left) and basically screwing over all of Italy. Should have killed him Ezio.

[@Dafuqinator7]

Actually, Rodrigo got the message and left Ezio and his family alone. He was smart enough to realize that trying to kill an Auditore or their close allies (especially Ezio) was equal to making an elaborate suicide plan. His son Cesare on the other hand, wanted to conquer Italy, and ignored his father's warnings that attacking Monteriggioni was a very, *very* bad idea. Heck, nearing the end of Brotherhood, *spoilers* Rodrigo tries to kill Cesare with a poisoned apple, but ends up being force-fed said apple himself.

[@ianvalkenborgh]

Oh yes! You are completely right! Sorry, it's been years since I've played that game, my bad :o I stand corrected 😧😉

[@anna-flora999]

Ian Valkenborgh and in the Assassins Creed 2 books (which is very close to the game but not completely canon but still interesting here), Rodrigo tells Ezio that he took poison after the fight

[@AdderTude]

"No Russian" is a perfect example of a gigantic plot hole that was twisted into a device. Can't turn around to kill Makarov because he has plot armor so thick, he gets to kill you at the end and cause mayhem for the rest of the series. Just like all of the primary antagonists of the modern titles (Black Ops series and all of the "Warfare" titles). One more reason why I hate the modern era CoD games. Same story every year. Also, I have gripes about Scrotus surviving a chainsaw ripping through his frontal lobe like that. I have yet to see anyone live through such an ordeal, but hey, it's video games so plot armor saves the day again.

[@deathcharge811]

i just love how emperor palpatine speaks to the prisoners. "you will be interrogated, tortured. you will give me the names of your friends and your allies............. *speaks fast* and then you will die."

[@marcuscraft492]

did you forget about Seymour from FFX. You battle him 4 times before Yuna finally sends him

[@nathanbrown8680]

One thing I'll never understood about the Joker. Every time Batman brings him in alive there are dozens of cops and prison guards who have the opportunity to ensure that he falls down the stairs on the way to his cell however many times it takes to make damn certain that he's never getting up again. Not one of them ever wants revenge for one of the thousands of people he's murdered. Nor do any of them ever recognize the pattern that he always escapes and murders thousands of people and that they or someone they want to keep unmurdered could be one of them next time. Why is he still alive?

[@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х]

Most are on pay from criminals?

[@Zoomies212]

Emperor Palpatine's delivery of the line "And then you will die" always gets me 😂

[@gordonjamescowiest]

So that's why people slag The Mad Max game, they expect you to believe that someone could survive having A CHAINSAW SHOVED INTO YOUR SKULL! Even my cats wouldn't buy that storyline!

[@kecukritiques2943]

I don't think he'd be in the best health, but there *are* survivors of serious head wounds. Just look up 'man with head caved in' on Google images, just for an example.

[@gordonjamescowiest]

Kecu Yeah but nobody in real life is going to survive A CHAINSAW SHOVED INTO THEIR SKULL!

[@kecukritiques2943]

Gordon Cowie "nobody in real life" - That's kinda where you've lost your argument. Also, the human body somehow surprises survivors of all sorts of accidents on a daily basis. In some cases, there have been survivors of incidents in which it's almost medically impossible to have survived. Such as Lareece Butler, who survived a 3,000 foot sheer drop, at accelerating speeds without a parachute; having only had a broken leg and concussion. Ask any medical professional and they'll tell you that sort of stuff is near unheard of in human endurance.

[@gordonjamescowiest]

Kecu​ considering the speed that the blade on a chainsaw moves at its statistically impossible for a person to survive a chainsaw going through their skull because it would hemorrhage their brain from the loss of blood. Also no medical professional has encountered a person surviving a chainsaw through the skull!

[@kecukritiques2943]

Gordon Cowie You didn't question why your own statement made your entire argument, even your last point, irrelevant. We're talking about fiction. In real life, people have survived some brutally amazing feats of endurance. But fiction *always* trumps reality on such things for dramatic effect. Sooooo...your turn?

[@michealdrake3421]

Okay, I just want to point out something about the Makarov one: at the time, they didn't know that Makarov was a the ringleader. The last time they killed a bad guy, it turned out he had a protege waiting to take his place (Makarov, incidentally). The only link they had to Makarov's network was Makarov himself. If they killed him and it turned out he had a lieutenant, or was just a puppet, they would be back at square one. They had to get close to him to make sure that they could eliminate him and everyone connected to him. It isn't until later that they learn that he actually is both the head honcho, and the only guy holding his whole organization together.

[@MyChevySonic]

You know on that first one, other people had guns pointed at Lara right?

[@DinoDive]

Could check just dump Wheatley in the furnace and waltz out of the whole game

[@RinIsArty]

+Dino Dive Nope, he was actually trying to help and besides, you really think GLaDOS would have let ya go?

[@Terastas]

+Dino Dive Yeah, if GLaDOS wasn't standing between you and the exit, and the only way to get rid of her didn't involve the stalemate initiative.

[@LSB001]

That Mad Max one is just sooo dumb. His brain, including the part that controls auto-respiratory functions has been cut in half and minced.

[@DeaconStJohn-kz7io]

I just randomly started fangirling the moment I heard Troy Bakers voice❤️😍 great video btw

[@romaniangamer1]

what about that 1st grade teacher? had to stand her 4 years!

[@Daboodeedabodah]

Savage

[@ImperativeGames]

Before you killed her?

[@All4Randomness1]

What

[@ColeVecsion]

couple things... first, who remembers their first grade teacher? second, this is video games, not real life, you should know better, three, so your brain went straight to murdering another human being for petty reasonings, four, the fuck is wrong with you? five, seek theropy and chug some medication

[@ColeVecsion]

CommieGamer When you have to back peddle to it being a joke, it wasn't very good to begin with

[@zackarymarsden7923]

You know... I actually liked Pagan Min.

[@001hellcat1]

When I did the mission "No Russian" for the first time, I actually tried killing Makarov. Turns out he's bullet proof, even to headshots.

[@omni-sett6532]

You cant really blame Leon in RE4 though Salazar in the 1st 2nd and 4th encounters did have one or both of those Alien-esc body guards with him.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

+OMNI CORE yeah they would have probably killed leon too,i mean one of them literally was just optinal to fight and you could just choose to run away like a bitch

[@b-b-bbravo6990]

Revolver Ocelot in MGS3. Kill him and none of the other games ever happen. Game even tells you with the "Time Paradox" death scene if you do.

[@OrangeRising]

+B-B-B Bravo I was going to make sure no one else said that before I did. Great minds think alike, eh?

[@ElSalsaRey]

To be fair, even when one manages to kill the main villain, some story-related shenanigans tend to happen that end up making said villain more powerful. Examples: Final Fantasy. You kill Garland at the very beginning...but then Chaos warps him back in time and fuses with him, creating a cycle that repeats every 2000 years in which Garland, after being defeated, kills the Warriors of Light and over the next two millennia loses his powers until the Warriors of Light, new to their adventure, can kill him, renewing the cycle. Fire Emblem: Athos inflicted a wound on Nergal that very well should have killed him. It did leave him permanently scarred so that he has to hide half of his face, but he survived thanks to the life force he absorbed. Also Eliwood's father stabbed him in the back. Fire Emblem: Awakening. You land a fatal blow on Validar, the guy responsible for causing the end of the world...but then the dragon destined to end the world revives him. Then, Gangrel crawls away from the battlefield where he died, Aversa lived on to find the truth of her past, and Walhart actually did die, but thanks to probably vegetarian powers proved so awesome that he kept living without his heart beating. Arkham series: Yeah, how well did killing the Joker work for Batman? Oh yeah, Joker's still in his head.

[@cc-ol4wi]

What about assassins creed unity? In the beginning when you break into Elisis party all of the Templars are there and alone in a room : /

[@XxAshenxX]

Killing the Gang Leaders in Assassins Creed Syndicate in the Gang Stronghold takeover before the actual gang fight...good times

[@Greek_Valkyrie]

To be fair with #1 Lara probably noticed that had she shot the guy then his goons would have killed her. And she only got the trigger for the explosives after he came closer to her in order to threaten her. Sooo...logically it made more sense to try and let him go, before using his trick against him when he showed signs of going to kill her anyways.

[@Jason0binladen]

If you wanna see a funny glitch in MW2 try to run away from Makarov at the end, turn the corner hide behind a barrel, and the magic bullet that shot JFK manages to kill you

[@xBINARYGODx]

Batman: "I wont kill people, so I will not kill Joker... however, I feel no responsibility for the all the people HE will kill every time he breaks free - innocent people who would be saved if I killed him. Also, letting him die even if I didn't cause the events that led to him about to die is also equally unacceptable - I can not ONLY not kill him, I must actively make sure he NEVER dies! I do this for all the innocent people I claim to care so much about." IOW - Batman is a fucking dangerously-insane moron who should be charged with crimes against humanity. Still my favorite comic book hero.

[@Steak-ml9ix]

+BINARYGOD arkham night he kills joker

[@xBINARYGODx]

Stevehero55 True - but perhaps too little, too late - at least according to surviving family members. :-P

[@Steak-ml9ix]

Yeah atleast he evntually goes to kill him

[@Underworlder5]

+BINARYGOD you think the limit would come somewhere. joker is an insane murderer who loves killing people in sadistic ways and he always escapes no matter how many times he gets imprisoned. there is nothing morally wrong with killing him

[@Pemj2k]

+very mad guy If Batman followed that logic, then all those crippled thugs would be dead thugs. It may seem like it's for the better until you wake up one day and realize you've got a body count higher than any or them. Right or wrong there will be consequences.

[@ethanbailey708]

Everyone forgot the first mission for the Brotherhood in Saints Row 2. You easily had the chance to put a bullet in his head. You even had a gun to his head. That would have made the game a lot easier and wouldn't have to waste ALL YOUR GOD DAMN RESPECT!

[@masrocksgaming6224]

Maybe Laura Croft didn't shoot him because his men all had those rifles aimed at her.

[@RamaBunza]

that douchebag from skyrim with golden claw, i know hes not the main nemesis but still, :D

[@Gyrannon]

In that instance, you gotta wonder if Alduin realized "Oh shit, did I just SAVE the Dragonborn?" cause seriously, if he had skipped that place entirely, the Dragonborn would be dead and he would be free to do whatever.

[@Poldovico]

You totally can kill him without cutting him down though.

[@tictococlock6000]

Lol. BRING ME THAT CLAW.

[@ruttsuco.804]

+Gyrannon he probably would have only had to wait 3 seconds longer and BOOM no dragonborn.

[@150booyadragon]

8 times the antagonist accidently saved the hero that kills him? I mean think of it this way if Alduin saved me (back before I knew the game and the characters and the stories really well) and then actually said "yo you're my kin let me teach you these humans were going to murder you for no reason let's take control" I would of said "HELL YEAH MY BRO FROM ANOTHER MO

[@patience1926]

I don’t think Salazar would’ve died from a single knife or bullet to the head and he did have bodyguards with him to protect him from further attacks. That’s what Leon’s logic there was I presume, also it looked cool and Salazar’s reaction afterwards is comedy gold.

[@applewithaknife658]

i would never have killed pagin even if i had the choice to.. hes my favorite character in the whole series

[@zZundel]

Pagin? What about Vaas? He was great.

[@Chil1will]

You dont need to kill pagan, even if playing the entire game, you just need to get to the very end and don't shoot him, then he will [SPOILER AHEAD FOR THIS ENDING] go outside and say something like: You can keep the country, but the helicopter is mine! As he enters his helicopter to flee Kyrat, thus making you Kyrat's emperor and leaving you with the ending song (the classic shurastei o shuraigou song from the soundtrack (btw i know how to write the name, its just a joke))

[@thesimmist]

+William Cunha aaand then you find the chopper wreck just down the road :D

[@Chil1will]

Monochrome Fox Well, never saw that... But can you play after the credits? Long time since i played but i thought you did the final quest and thats it.

[@thesimmist]

yeah, you pretty much start off right where you were standing as he flew off iirc

[@Pandawadless]

number 2 isn't evil though technically

[@Pandawadless]

+William Scanlon when you say his actions without context yeah he is evil, but in context of your options he isn't so evil

[@SSSniperSkank]

William You have to understand the game itself before you make that kind of accusation.

[@Pandawadless]

+Pair of Great tits ^^^^^

[@maj1166]

+William Scanlon yea but everyone else is worse in my opinion

[@BBMoney007]

Better than everyone getting slaughtered by a civil war.

[@patrickstar6458]

I'm not gonna lie I love this channel

[@a_cynical_mad_man_vods]

Pagen Min is actually a decent guy if you don't kill him at the end of the guy.

[@koobyboy4304]

He still did stab that guy with a pen tho.

[@a_cynical_mad_man_vods]

Some MLG name idk no one cares honestly True but he was the father of Ajay's half sister and he was one of the best bad guys I've ever seen in a game

[@koobyboy4304]

With a pen.

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

You mean the guy who went against his orders and tried to kill you? I wont say Pagan Min is a sane man, but he is a rather fun guy to hang around. I wish there was a DLC where we fight on Pagan Mins side.

[@a_cynical_mad_man_vods]

+Jordan Smith same especially since I don't really like either of the golden path leaders

[@Rikent]

FINE KZbin.... I watched this now please stop recommending it

[@rustyschwa9562]

‘No thanks bro’ ‘Your right hand comes off?’ ‘Rain or shine you’re going down’

[@chrisc9592]

I did not kill or what to kill Pagan Min. He killed a guy who tried to kill you and dipshit was using A PHONE AT THE FUCKING TABLE. Sorry, sorry, manners are important to me.

[@Neelmay13]

+Chris “hayhowareya” C Agreed. Courtesies are important.

[@SRWolfderg]

+JACOB CORCORAN Why not? I say it should be legal to do just that.

[@hunterrhone2773]

the golden path are the bad guys

[@PennyDreadful1]

"If you strike him down in anger..." "Fine then! I'll just strike him down in joy!"

[@gautambiju4376]

Dishonored. you could kill Havelock at the start!

[@dtw_1995]

I'm only like 2 minutes in but maybe Lara didn't shoot Konstantin because she was surrounded by like 10 of his guards armed with sub-machine guns.

[@FlamingNinja]

+TheGolDan95 but of course, she could have grabbed the detonator as she shot Konstantin and destroyed the place. Unfortunately she did the latter when he was right in front of her.

[@PrototypeNinja16]

+Flaming Ninja Doesn't how fast she could have tried to do that, the trained mercs and PMC dudes with automatic weapons trained on her would of filled her with holes instantly. Trinity would find the Divine source eventually since Konstantin was a low level field guy, now there's no one to stop them... the world is fucked.

[@ryanclemons1]

Never seen that starwars game but that part where the one guy says "and then you will die" was funny as hell.

[@kinkshamer5067]

Batman has a mental disorder , he lets the joker live to foil one of his Plans again so he can feel like a hero

[@TheRealParallax]

+Preston garvey So he can put more settlements in danger, therefore making Batman necessary.

[@kairobertson2847]

I think Game Theory covered this in one of his old videos, you should check it out if you haven't seen it before....... Also shouldn't a settlement be in trouble or something

[@krys889]

+Kai Robertson That's exactly where he got it from

[@anneelk9066]

+Preston garvey Ah yes, because nothing screams "FACTS" more than Game Theory...

[@kairobertson2847]

***** Well maybe this document proving Batman's mental stability can ! **pulls out document written in crayons**

[@un4fnvectarn317]

But I love pagan min

[@AnotherStudent96]

His character was good actually I liked it too

[@un4fnvectarn317]

yeah

[@Thedarkassassin88]

I've never exactly played the game, but to me, has always Pagan seemed like an alright guy.

[@Zyk0th]

I think Batman's code is more than just "don't kill" it's "don't let anyone die if at all possible." Batman knew it was possible for him to save Joker, so he did. That's also why he killed Bane then resuscitated him after Joker was free from the electric chair.

[@RandomL0s3r]

So, Is Max the ONLY one that made the effort to kill the fucker AND fails miserably?

[@RandomL0s3r]

I know. Altaïr. But Max actually got it in his brainbox

[@thunderbirdlead7135]

Raven John Borja and SOMEHOW LIVE A SAW RIPPING THOUGH HIS BRAIN ULTIMATELY DESTROYING IT yet he functions perfectly fine