80 vs 100 Series and Why the 80 Series Toyota Land Cruiser is NOT the Answer

[@avpr1c]

There's something so special about the 80, even if it's just a grocery hauler. I have/had a bunch of Toyota trucks - Land Cruiser, Tundra, Sequoia, 4Runner - and the 80 is still my favorite.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Definitely has a strong personality

[@etienne_oosthuizen]

The 80 series is the car that comes with a smile,

[@edwinthomas618]

80 series hands down. Solid axles and.classic look and a beast

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

As you can see, the third option not listed is to just buy both. ¿Por que no los dos?

[@EightyFiveHundred]

Nice video. Over the last 20 years, had a 60, bought an 80, added a 100, and sold the 100. Today, the others are gone, except the 80. Going on 18 years and 248,000 miles on my locked supercharged 80.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

I have been eyeing forced induction for the 3FE for a while now. When the channel grows a bit more, I think I could justify turboing my FJ80. How do you like the supercharger?

[@EightyFiveHundred]

@@Dan_And_Daves_Garage the SC is great. It’s a savior at altitude, when I lived above 8000’ and on higher backcountry trails. It doesn’t make the 80 fast, but it allows it to keep up with modern traffic. Passing your wife in her stock 100, at 8000’, going uphill in your fully armored 80 with rear drawers, 33s on stock gears, and Slee speedo correction gear - no problem!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. I would just like to pass people going up hill is that too much to ask? Haha

[@bogotstogoskiing]

@@Dan_And_Daves_Garage Afaik there is no supercharger for the 3FE. Only the 1FZ.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

@@bogotstogoskiing I am aware. There are however some turbo 3fe builds on iH8mud that I may use for inspiration in the future

[@IAm1InTheIAm]

Love my '96 LX450. Blueprinted the 4.5L and it is the smoothest engine ive ever had- and a luxury beast- huge axles, coils, the apex of Land Cruisers. Anything after the 80 is an SUV.

[@adrianw3985]

I have a coworker with an 80 and a 100 series. After listening to what he had to say, I went with a 100 for myself. My truck is used as a family car and adventure rig, so what it lacks in more hard core off-road ability it more than make up for in everyday practicality.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Good choice. The 100 is definitely more comfortable on the road, and a lot less likely to hear compliments from the wife when she drives. I actually just got a GX460 for the family, so now I've got the 80 for adventures and the GX for around town. Video on that soon

[@adrianw3985]

@@Dan_And_Daves_Garage the GX is awesome, a Lexus V8 4Runner.

[@NigelNaughton]

For 95% of poeple the 100 series is the way to go. Better power, more comfortable and still very capable. For the other 5% that want to do more off-roading and having it even more capable (and a lot cheaper to mod) the 80 series is king...especially the 1995 and later (OBDII) and if you can get the 3X locked. I have a 1997 Collector's Edition 3X locked and it's absolutely amazing. My 3rd 80 series.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

I enjoy my 80 series a lot and the 3x locked is something I'd like to own one day, however, I'm keeping my eyes open on fb marketplace and prices are coming down on these 100 series fast, making them even more tempting. The cost difference between an early 100 series and 3x 80 is so significant that you could probably buy an early 100 series and build it out for the cost of 3x locked 80 with money left over for gas. Better yet, you won't be afraid of getting crucified by ih8mud members if you beat it up offroad.

[@michaelm9710]

What do you think of the ‘91 Land Cruiser lx470

[@NigelNaughton]

@@michaelm9710 they didn't make the Lexus version then. I would be the LX450 anyway.

[@ThePenatron]

I like my built 80. 4:88s really help. I don’t care that it sucks on the highway. It’s a pack mule.

[@lsvej1]

I love my 96 Land Cruiser has 330k an triple locked. Running like a champ an going to be getting a lift for it soon

[@nicholasaustin2717]

I bought a 2001 100-series in 2019. I don’t need it for any of my hobbies. -the styling was already 20+ years old when I bought it. My perception of its appeal hasn’t moved at all over the past 4 years. I like it as much today as I did then. If I had bought a new vehicle I would want the new hotness by now. -I don’t care if my kids throw a football at the door panel. -a happy-meal or donut with a tailgate is a memory. -3 rows of seats, and the 3rd row reclines. I can put row 2 up and at 6’1” have my legs straight while sitting in a reclined 3rd row. -I can sell it for my cost +inflation. -(90.4 cubic feet of cargo capacity)+(tow hitch box that can carry 500lbs with 24 cubic feet)+(150lbs roof rack limit)=camouflage from 2nd cousins along if I can help them move.

[@Rage_80]

In Australia we had a 105 series. Cross between 80 chassis and 100 cab.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

A couple have popped up for sale in the US now that they are over 25 years old but they want stupid money for them.

[@darnellengelbrecht4400]

We have the 105 in South Africa too, I own one and am enjoying it

[@joshburke4083]

Yeah but unfortunately didn't get the engines the 100 or even the top spec diesel 80's got.

[@GregorsOutdoors]

If I was 20-40 again, I'd go for the 80 series all day long. Keep in mind I owned and drove a 1971 FJ55 3-speed for about 10 years ("adventure only" rig). As I close in on my 60s, the Cruiser in the suit and tie (Lexus) seems to be the smarter choice for my wife and me. She wouldn't drive an 80 series, but the comfort of a Lexus LX 470 can fool anyone into diving into the creature comforts. I am practicing the "grey man" concept (for anyone who knows), and the 100 series neatly falls into this category.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

There's a reason why all the overseas contractors used the 100 series overseas during the GWOT. Creature comforts paired with offroad performance (even better with mods), plenty of storage and towing capacity all wrapped up in a super reliable package.

[@Bruceillest101]

For 90% of people who want an adventure vehicle and don’t wrench in their own cars, Just get a newer gen 4Runner. They are ready to go right out the box. Those old Land Cruiser require a lot of maintenance and you will be replacing old parts every few months. 80 series land cruisers don’t really have a lot of maintenance videos on KZbin. It gets annoying tbh. If you’re looking for solid axles you’re better off getting a wrangler. Way more aftermarket support and maintenance videos. I don’t have any experience with the 100 series but they are kind of dated looking and heavy for actual off-roading. I’m not hating on LC just trying share my personal experience with them. They are great vehicles for weekend camping trips on dirt/gravel roads

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Fair observation that there are other vehicle options out there that offer similar or better capabilities. Really depends on what features you value the most and what terrain you plan on conquering. Buying any 25+ year old vehicle, you run into the same aging issues no matter what make/model you buy. Is there anything specific you'd like to see maintenance wise on the 80 series? Almost everything has already been solved on iH8mud. Personally haven't ran into anything complicated. Even if you ran into something funky you can buy and download all the factory service manuals from Toyota's TIS site.

[@aka7minimouse]

Had a few 97 80 series and recently traded it for a 100. Honestly, the 100 serves my purpose better for long, smooth, highway road trips. 80 felt like a rough tank, it was kinda similar yet so different from the 100. Will get an 80 again some day, some odd nostalgia factor about it that I miss. The 100 is an overall better mix between modern and classic.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

That's our feeling as well. The 80 is pretty much limited to fun outdoor adventures and offroading. David ultimately bought the LX470 because it could haul all his junk, is super quiet, comfortable, fits his outdoorsy and adventurous lifestyle, and can do long stretches on the highway up and down the east coast. I'm not upset that I have an 80 instead of a 100, it just kind of forces you to have two vehicles at this point.

[@don0612]

I’ve got a triple locked (Air ARB, aftermarket) TRD Supercharged 100 series on 35s and a full build. It’s more capable than I am and does everything I ask it to do with SPEED!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

When in doubt, power out

[@jng888]

Both are awesome Cruiser. they are three tons vehicles so gas mileages are expected.

[@Ghostrider-71]

HDJ81 owner here. 1-HDT powered. I wish the USA had gotten the diesel in the LC. The diesel is a great power source for the 80 series LC.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

You and me both

[@wesammansour1486]

Wish the States would get the Mighty Nissan Patrol. Especially the y60 and the y61. They're Legends!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

I've watched a ton of 4WD Action videos with their Patrols and Land Cruisers and that definitely inspired us to get this 80 series. Looks like the oldest y61 patrols are now older than 25 years so they are eligible for import into the US. I'd imagine more will start popping up for sale in the US as the JDM importers bring them in.

[@campampates]

Just get a Sequoia for like less than 10k for a nice example. Nobody in the US needs off road anything right now unless you need 4wd which is ALSO available on a nice affordable Sequoia with much more room.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Sequoias are also sweet rigs, but unfortunately the biggest draw back is that it doesn't say Land Cruiser on it. I also own a 1st gen Tundra, which is built on the same platform as the Sequoia, and I don't have any negative things to say about it.

[@aleksandrnestrato]

Hm, I wonder how that 80 gem would ride with a 5.7 3UR-FE engine with a TRD supercharger?😇 Dealer upgraded Tundras had 500 ponies in that configuration. The 80 would become a reeaaly great sleeper-both on-road and off-road one. :)

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Now thats an idea. It would probably get the same fuel economy as well. I may just start casually scrolling through copart to see if one comes up...

[@don0612]

Just do an LS and an Atlas transmission at that point

[@jraddd3477]

I have a 97lx450, a 2000x470 and I prefer my 80 but both are sweet. Also love my fj cruiser.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Nice

[@bobbelford5040]

Completely wrong about the 1fz comparison. I’ve owned both 3fe and 1fz there is a huge difference in power and speed. The 1fz is not good on fuel but is still better than the 3f with miles per gallon.

[@opsihota2118]

If the 80 could tow my project cars I would have gotten it. It was the only deciding factor.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

They make supercharger kits for the 1FZ no excuse

[@ravholly]

I have a Nissan Xterra sitting on 35” tires but I still don’t consider any vehicle a real off road rig with IFS. I had two solid front axle Land Rover Discovery

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

No issues with 35s on an Xterra? Nit shown on the channel yet is our 88 Pathfinder and that has 31s, and that was good fun offroad.

[@TRONABORON]

Now bring both of your rigs out here to Death Valley/Mojave Desert for some amazing trails!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

I would love to, although that's a little cost prohibitive at this point in time

[@lsswapped80]

I think having the right suspension makes a world of difference in the 80. Kinda hard to compare a solid axle front vs independent front.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Its hard but we somehow managed to do it. If only there were both subjective and objective standards to compare apples to oranges.

[@lmalesci]

hello warm greetings from Pontassieve province of Florence Italy I am the esteemed owner of a 4x4 off-road vehicle Suzuki Jimmy 4x4 with a 1.3 LT petrol m13a engine, all original from 2001, all original that I usually use on rural and forest tracks and with the right mud tyres it goes well and for me the Suzuki Jimmy 4x4 even if it is completely original I see that it is in its natural habitat in tackling rural farm tracks and forest roads that are used by logging companies for the transport of timber with forestry trucks!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Those Suzukis are awesome. Too bad they don't sell them here in the US.

[@willbrewa]

Great video. How many miles do the air ride suspensions usually shit the bed?

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

The LX470 actually has hydraulic suspension, but most people tend to have problems due to putting off maintenance, especially servicing the fluid. Hard to say an exact mileage for when things start to go south with the AHC system, but these vehicles are now basically at least 20 years old so the systems are going to have things fail just due to age. If I was looking at one that still had the AHC, I'd be asking for maintenance records for the AHC specifically. The Land Cruiser version of the 100 series came with normal springs/struts so you don't have to worry about the hydraulic suspension with that.

[@brkbtjunkie]

I had the choice between a 1997 LC or a 2006 LX, the LC was abused with lower miles, and the LX was pampered with more miles. I chose the LX

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Good choice

[@Soundinart21]

Me 2, with a family and growing up in the 90z, Lx470 06 was our choice❤

[@jraddd3477]

Shoulda got both

[@beagler4234]

200 series for the win

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

If I could snag one for stupid cheap, I would

[@RainbowicalPrisim]

Intro is crazy 💀 💀 💀

[@leozz8074]

Does your 80 Series have a small lift? I have a 96 and have an OME 2.5 that I haven't installed yet. Not sure if I want to do it or not. Great video!

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

The 80 series only has KYB Gas-a-just shocks and I believe stock springs. I don't see any labels or anything on the springs to indicate they are anything but original. When we bought it there was no mention of any suspension work done either. Only other mod is the 33" K02s on the stock wheels.

[@JoshLC80]

Which springs have you got. I put on the 2.5 some on my 80 and it ended up too high in the back with J springs

[@leozz8074]

@@JoshLC80 The heavy springs. I'm guessing they will make the back too high.

[@JoshLC80]

@@leozz8074 I think the heavy are less stiff then the J springs. if you have a winch bumper and a rear bumper with a tire they will likely be fine. But if your stock weight it will be too high

[@edwinalexander1170]

Does 80 series have turbo? Does it have AC? Does it have Airbag ? And lastly does it have a port you can put a diagnosis machine to check for any engine fault? Kindly let me know, i like the 80 series.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

No to the turbo unless you import a turbo diesel model. The only other ones that fit your criteria are the late model 96-97 FZJ80. Those will have OBD2, airbags (driver/passenger only), and R134a A/C rather than R12. Hope this helps

[@kcw9313]

friends only let friends buy an fzj80. 91-92 hard pass especially with that Camry dash, no lockers, anemic engine, drum brakes and no full float axles.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

When prices for early fj80s were more reasonable, I did a video on exactly all those points and the conclusion was, if you just want an 80 series to beat up on and enjoy on the trail since people like you write them off as worthless, they are great rigs to dip your toes into the Land Cruiser market. Now that prices have stabilized and the gap between a non-locked fzj80 and fj80 are pretty close (at least here in the mid-atlantic) it would make sense to pony up the little bit of extra cash to get the fzj80.

[@richwhetton]

If you had smaller rims, bigger tyre wall and better tread pattern the 100 would do much better even without a lift.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

All of that is true, tire choice makes a huge difference in off road performance. There's always a compromise somewhere when it comes to optimizing for either offroad or on road performance.

[@tmshowier]

19:30 شكرا فيديو رائع منكما وجلسة في الخلف مميزة 👍

[@tmshowier]

15:03 لذا من أراد شراءها عليه اختيار منطقة غير وعرة عاشت فيها لكي تجدها بصحة جيدة والان قليل جدا لكن ١٠٠ مناسب للشباب والعائلة والسفر والصحراء. شكرا

[@scot-johnson]

I like the 105 series

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

I wish we got them in the states. Early years are now eligible for import being over 25 years old so I expect a few will make their way over here.

[@epicgamer785]

only thing better than an 80 series is a 105, 100 series is too much of a downgrade to compete unless it has an fte

[@Being_Joe]

05 LX. My alternator died 2hrs away from home.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

How many miles did you have on the LX when the alternator died? Mine went out at around 160k and on ih8mud, that's when other people say it starts to go out.

[@Being_Joe]

@@Dan_And_Daves_Garage 310k ish. Mechanic said it looks like it is probably the original.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

It lived a good life

[@tmshowier]

2:24. مثال: fj80 يمتلها جدنا و ١٠٠ يمتلكها الأب 😜👍

[@theonetheycallsix2526]

I love my 80 but sometimes I’d like to get a 100

[@Justin-hb6cg]

If you want an SUV buy a 100 series. If you want a four wheel drive buy an 80 series.

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

The 80 series does lack the "Sport" part of being an SUV

[@Justin-hb6cg]

@@Dan_And_Daves_Garage Yes, and the 100 series does lack the off-road part of being a four wheel drive.

[@tmshowier]

3:27 👍

[@peturssp]

Diesel or gasoline engines?

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

These are both gasoline engines, as that was the only option in the US at the time.

[@tmshowier]

0:15 شكرا لاهتماك..لهذه الفئة التي خدمت عدة ممتلكين وسائقين..بمل جدية وعمل لا تخت المزلة للمناسباا😜 لكن اعتقد اي سيارة أثبتت وجودها وبعد طول عمر.. لا تحتاج منا لمدح وتعريف لها!!😜لكن يبفى وفاءا لها خاصة ٨ سلندر شكرا

[@tmshowier]

13:33 👍

[@tmshowier]

14:34 نعم عائلة رائعة قبل اخرموديل

[@tmshowier]

15:00👍

[@tmshowier]

6: 07😀 الأخ الأكبر

[@wesammansour1486]

Why don't you guys just trade?😅

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Lol, because then we wouldn't have the benefits of the other one

[@Hank_Kingsley81]

My 2014 GX460> 80 series

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Not sure the point you're trying to make. We also have a GX460 and its really nice, but they're easily 2-3x the price of an 80 or 100 series.

[@CalenKnauf]

80 series utilitarian and rugged!? Hahahaha what?

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Lmao are you serious

[@elpatudo3670]

Are these guys twins or.....?

[@Dan_And_Daves_Garage]

Yes actually