800 Fights Old School Muay Thai vs New School Muay Thai

[@LawrenceKenshin]

This is one of the greatest fights of all time. In a truly legendary showdown, Tawatchai Budsadee, a man with 800 fights, faces off against UK legend Damien Trainor. Trainor is a pioneer who combined the best of western kickboxing and Thai style Muay Thai. Tawatchai likes to showcase Muay Boran style techniques and is very aggressive. Both of them being aggressive technicians made an epic bout that the fans will never forget. How to Fight Giants VIP Waitlist: www.strikingacademy.com/giant

[@5ive-5tar]

Yo Lawrence can I have the link to the full clip at 1.32 tank you bro

[@Strongboy1770]

Got any stuff from when groin shots were okay?

[@benhillario3828]

can you breakdown nong o vs saemapetch fight, because in my opinion that was the most epic fight in the last 10 years. in that fight nuclear bomb was exchanged every second

[@oftheone1856]

Whats that trash thumbnail son. You made it look like he jizzes. Disgusting. Dont bring your sexual preferences into this, freak.

[@markanthony5322]

hey @Lawrence Kenshin Striking Breakdowns. what was the name of the song that starts to play at 3:44?

[@tylerhill40]

Can u imagine 800 fights?! Mind boggling amount of experience. These Muai Thai guys don't get enough credit.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

For sure man

[@tylerfuller3690]

No we don't 😂

[@KitKatWiffleBallBat]

Anyone who is great at something had better hope they failed at least 800 times before they start getting that good. I guess what I mean is, whatever your passion is (for me, it's drawing, painting, sculpting) you had better put in 800 days, nights, before you start even claiming any sort of skill at all. Great things take time. Anyone the equivalent worth of their true greatness, will tell you that 800 is nothing. Nothing. If you lose count, then you're hopefully up there somewhere among the greatest, or at the very least, proud of yourself. I wish that everyone could become the greatest in something. Anything at all. Believe in yourself, above all else. And maybe don't worry about the count. Just do it every muffler chuckin' day! (lol...muffler chuckin' sounds like anal...yikes! I take it back!) Just work hard every day!

[@sirbill443]

Never get their credit compared to those MMA fighters

[@bigdumbidiot5357]

@@KitKatWiffleBallBat yea dude the difference is when you look at boxing and mma where the goats only have like 30 fights

[@didxogns1]

How does this brit has the soul to grab that right kick when that side is experiencing a third degree burn. Mad respect.

[@RobertoDavidRusconi]

Tawatchai Budsadee, one of the very greatest fighter who grew at the joint between Muay Borhan and Muay Thai ring style, I am extremely happy you are bringing these masters to the worlds attnetion, i do hope a part of your excellent on line stricking academy will present some of these MB techniques

[@bigmanbarry2299]

Jesus christ. Looks like a second degree burn on his left side or something. Crazy respect for fighting through that...

[@LawrenceKenshin]

definitely takes toughness

[@wk2259]

yeah insane... he would literally eat the kick to the ribs and catch the leg over and over.

[@manhcuong3035]

@@wk2259 yeah, the fact that he can still comprehend Tawatchai's movement and surpass them in spite of those wounds is truly incredibles.

[@wk2259]

@@manhcuong3035 absolutely man.. He's a warrior

[@XtraCrispy]

by the last round i dont think he feel any pain any more ^^

[@YeboSa]

Love these vids. I know nothing about muay thai. My kids are my training teamates when my wife isnt looking :-)

[@LawrenceKenshin]

That is awesome! haha thanks so much for watching

[@LlamasPvP]

Join a local gym, my friend!

[@perrito2239]

And they win :D

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

Where do you live? One of us may be able to give you a recommendation

[@andrewsooknanan3940]

Nah don't do that buddy, accidents happen, mistakes happen, and you could injure your kids, it can even be a life threatening injury, best go to a proper gym with proper training equipment and with expert coaches who can keep everything safe, wether it's keeping you safe or keeping you from accidentally harming others, cheers buddy.

[@MrThaitoine]

I train with him in 2014 he had 700 fights at that point. In 2017 he ask me to be in is corner. Unfortunately he fought a much larger Thai and lost. They call him in the afternoon they where missing a fighter so no problem. This guy became a good friend. But as for many Thai legend he is broke so he has to keep fighting what a crazy life. I am really bless that have learn from him I still use some time is techniques. Take care my friend Lucky 🙏🙏🙏

[@ajaydeepak8812]

No offence to Damien . . . Tawatchai fighting past 800 fights is almost legendary. . Those ribs , damn !!!

[@khaanadian9648]

Muay Thai is so fkn brutal, it's incredible that these guys can withstand such abuse. I did muay thai a while ago and was practicing leg kicks with my partner with the thai pads on my legs, I came home and my legs were yellow and bruised up the next morning. And that was with the thai pads covering my legs, absolutely brutal.

[@gabrielgabriel5177]

You should condition your thins. They get more harder with practise.

[@weirdsciencethe2nd205]

We had that are first day me and my bro we had enough of that amd quick so we taped a thick sheet of card on the heavy bag in are garage amd slammed shins off it until it stopped hurting never stopped bruises just got used to it and my bro I think would legit snap someone's leg if he threw a good one I got my rib broken that sucked amd it was on point right on my small rib at the bottom that was hell for about a year

[@comradeskulerr8522]

@@weirdsciencethe2nd205 card like credit cards or papers? Also what does amd stands for?

[@mindripperful]

It goes to show how amazing the human body really is.

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

That's why most of the time their careers are over in their mid 20s, if they don't off to fight foreigners in some hybrid show like k-1 or now this "thai fights". Many of the greats became stadium champion (which I hold in higher regard than "world champion" titles, if it's rajadamnern or lumpinee stadium.. maybe even omnoi at some point) at age 16. They've been fighting since they were children, taking so much abuse, that their bodies are shot by then. I laugh at Joe Rogan talking about "crisp muay thai" in the UFC. It's a sad joke, American Muay Thai in general is. Let alone the shit they show in the UFC. They'd get blasted out by any better European fighter in a pure Muay Thai fight, let alone by top tier Thai opposition.

[@Wezleechadd1327]

Love how you can see the respect grow from each fighter as the fight goes deep. Less showboating and more lets do this!! Goosebumps tackle. Lol

[@GameIntrosFinales]

7:26 - I also challenged Elite Tie Fighters, back in 1994, thanks to LucasArts great game

[@hehehe2792]

Tie Fighters? u mean office workers?

[@getsugatensho4747]

Damn the old school so damn entertaining. Its like watching a movie fight.

[@unknownentity8256]

Man why did they have to change the scoring system, I would watch modern era Muay Thai 24/7 but there are modern fighters in ONE that I do watch sometimes tho.

[@jansegal6687]

@@unknownentity8256 agree, the score system has to be reworked, clinch should not be encouraged to this point

[@orangefield2308]

Old school? 10 years ago?

[@Flavius7]

Never heard about those two legends, thanks for educating me, man!

[@bandit6272]

800 fights? Christ, I had 3 and all these years later I can tell which chronic issues I can attribute to them. If I'd had 800, I'd probably be a quadriplegic.

[@stephenshw2262]

He probably fights with perfect technique. Good technique is really fundamental for injury prevention.

[@bizmonkey007]

The Thais are a different breed. Born and raised to fight. It’s almost superhuman.

[@snitchywitchy7712]

good thing it's not all about you then huh

[@bandit6272]

@@snitchywitchy7712 Nothing ever is

[@snitchywitchy7712]

@@bandit6272 For good reasons

[@jomarigarcia1309]

Re-upload of a Legendary Match! What a lovely day it is! 🔥

[@hidefreek6905]

The difference between old and modern Musy Thai: - Old schools use for war while Moderns use for sport. - Many old school techniques were fatal and in the it had headbutt, teeth and toes. (Including cold weapon)

[@sorakhar]

U think ppl used flying elbows in war?🤣 "new" muay thai is much more effective than muay boran

[@ghostttriddder]

@@sorakhar u dont know shit

[@sorakhar]

@@ghostttriddder nerd

[@GurneroMaelstrom]

Muay Boran wasn't a sport, it was a fight to the death, and headbutts are lethal, that's why they're not allowed in any sport.

[@GurneroMaelstrom]

Idiot soar kar

[@fluorescent_axolotl]

"You can see how often the Thai landed the kicks based on his opponent's body" - I died :)

[@lowercasepeople49]

He almost did too

[@Samsok013]

Tawatchai is so awesome, what a entertaining fight

[@Bushtl818]

Credits to the western Muay Thai guy. He fought like a Thai.

[@adrianking1332]

damion trainer i have seen him train years ago , there are a few of former world champions where i am from and seen fight ,you dont here much about damien and another one i wont name , i think he is one of the best , to come out of the uk.

[@no1fibersplicer525]

Just in your intro, not knowing Damian, I thought “damn, young man throws that Ernesto Hoost combo to the low kick beautifully!” Thanks for the video

[@FeldyMohrisar]

That respect at the end is the reason I like this kind of sports. Muay Boran more on self defense, so some technique can't implemented on sport fight. Basically is martial arts to protect their emperor, but both Muay Boran and Muay Thai is scary with that kind of agility.

[@mklip2001]

That big red spot on Trainor's back was already there in Round 1. Was he already taking so much body punishment that early in the fight?? It's crazy to see him still catch kicks there despite all the damage to his side.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

yeah man, he said it didnt hurt very much but the roundhouses did hit to cause that

[@wiggoforsmark9802]

Many times the foot slaps the back a bit when u kick good, causing that whipping effect om the skin. Doesn't hurt much to begin with but the Day after it stings

[@wiggoforsmark9802]

@PJ Rivera it useally does

[@hoihallo2904]

Been hit by riot police with their batons. I had 2 bruises bigger than the size of the bruise the fighter had. One on my shoulder blade and one on my thigh.. Didn't feel a thing, that day. The next day however. Adrenaline is a great painkiller. And maybe the few pints did help ease the pain😂

[@unknownentity8256]

@@hoihallo2904 You sure you were sober?

[@kimdesmond3302]

I love muay thai it's so graceful and viscious at the same time 💪❤

[@richardwalsham7573]

Another superb video Lawrence, your ability to pick fighters and styles to showcase the very best of standup combat sports, forever your fan and long live your epic channel 😎

[@gabrielcavazos6957]

Your videos are Kool bro God bless n keep them coming

[@IrishCoffeee]

That was legit an anime fight. Their speed and execution.. Damn that was a top performance. Fights like these are rare.

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

Wow amazing fight and just as good video break down. And thank you mate.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

🙏🙏

[@NoOne-hk2wo]

Wow you are on fire man the video with "sanechai angry" was exceptional but now you gave us an even better thank you and please continue, you are rising to new levels.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

More to come! thanks for watching!

[@YourManifoldWorld]

About clinching taking over Muay Thai. I believe Saenchai or Samart may have said this change was due to gamblers. The gamblers couldn't really "see" the beauty and technical aspects of Muay Thai but clinching was easier for them to grasp. These gamblers love cock fighting and even fighting beetles. So this change was because of gamblers.

[@stephenshw2262]

You cant really tell who is more dominant in a striking match. In clinching dominance is more clear cut

[@rgrtnyjjc]

This was from a great time in U.K. Thai boxing scene with plenty of excellent U.K. fighters like Damian, Andy Thrasher, Liam Harrison, Matthew Johnson, Fash Ferdosian etc.

[@suhribzevolution645]

ผมชอบเรียม แฮริสันกับเดเมี่ยน มากๆๆครับสองคนนี้เก่งกว่าคนไทยอีก

[@damienthetexasian6827]

Great video great channel you truly have an eye for the striking arts. Best breakdowns

[@nickspark7924]

Lucky is a great guy. I was happy to learn from him.

[@Fredostar363]

Another fight were the announcer or narrator does all the fighting.....Muay Boran for life uff the westerners style of boxing 52 blocks for life....Muay Boran......Yarrrroooowwwwww!!!!!!

[@davepowell7168]

Unfortunately old video but the combat appeared high quality 👌

[@darthtepes575]

Lawrence, excellent content But where to find the interview of Tawatchai talking about the dominance of foreigners? Nice work as always

[@arozentz]

Absolutely love your content!!

[@TheFakuza]

Samart Payakaroon 130-18-2 Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn 285-15 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn 110-10 Sagat Petchyindee 266-40 Saenchai Sor. Kingstar 303-41 Buakaw Por Pramu 257-41 . . This is how real LEGENDS looks like.

[@onalonan]

And these records started since they are a kid.

[@mickbotcast]

the funny part is Samart and Dieselnoi low fight is due to how overpower they're to the point no one want to fight with them

[@g06o1]

Wow I have never seen such a beautiful fight in my life until now , both warriors have so much 💖 much respect 🔥

[@imawarrior313]

The thai is a phenomenally experienced fighter but that brit showed that he’s a freakin iron warrior .. amazing bout!

[@Shaklore]

Thank you for the excellent video! May I ask what is the music used in this video?

[@LuCa8_]

Nice I loved the older post similar to this vid, kinda like an updated version lol.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

which one do you like better?

[@LuCa8_]

@@LawrenceKenshin Id Kinda have to say this one because more info and dialogue. As well as more background vídeos not only the fight.

[@robcarter55]

Bet bit was a good fight to watch. Unfortunately we didn't get to see it did we. Just your favorite bits and you talking !!!!!!!!

[@intimatespearfisher]

That was brilliant to watch!

[@johnathancuthbert9925]

Ayo could I get the last song name shit made a brother shed a tear and stuff man

[@zamosamo6793]

Damien is very well known in Thailand. People ask how Thai fighters have so much fights? No amateur fights,everyone starts pro, at 10-12 years old. 3 fights in one day, 3 fights in one week, 5-6 fights in one month is very normal. But not everyone is lucky ,many suffers at teenage age, concussions, small money, 3 fights one week,total money 1500baht ($50+-)

[@rffg781]

Yes. Admire the art but a terrible price for the kids that never make it far

[@zamosamo6793]

@@rffg781 Different system now,but still no headgear for kids. I quit at 16 in 2004,make about 30 fights. Quit to finished school. No fights at all after,now 33 years old . Many friends when they were 12 years old had concussions,also bad fingers,almost like deformed,from punching elbows in fights

[@rffg781]

@@zamosamo6793 hope you are in good health. The possibility of brain damage to the kids is the worst part for me - really ruining their potential for making a living when they become adults. Again i love doing muay thai for fun, just hope there's more support for people with head injuries coz that is so long term...

[@zamosamo6793]

@@rffg781 Thank God, i did not suffer from any injury trauma that time,thank you sir. My best wishes to you as well. Now working 9-5 job in Malaysia. Also Thai have many betting gangster. One time very powerful fighter quit Thai fight, he go to Europe country,because no fighter to compete him,betting gangster stop him, Thai fighter also scared & respect him. Smart guy,speak English,speak Italian. For me he is the wisest champion. Not many KZbin video, Kaopon Lek is his name. Left kicker but right hand is stronger than left.

[@abs5244]

what is the background song at the 4min mark? does anyone know? it's beautiful.

[@olvolv71]

also wanna know

[@HaykAmirbekyanTKD]

age and weight difference should be noted. Theyr'e both great but the thai is technically more advanced.

[@japinoybettajapan]

Respect both of them great fighters

[@zdenekburian-bc9hm]

Tawatchai does Boran muay thai?

[@noasakurada5090]

This was beautiful. Thanks !

[@zgescuro]

Thank you for your work!

[@LawrenceKenshin]

Thank you for watching

[@unknownentity8256]

Ah the Cross lead body hook into low kick is beatiful.

[@ubay8661]

This is the best fight I have ever seen...

[@SinilkMudilaSama]

Without egoism, insults and trash talks. Thailand have proud of Twanchai and Trainor. Both embraced and difunding mthai in ALL world. Uk have proud of Trainor that challenged and learned with Thai people The Spirit and the technique of mthai should be. Thailand and England and other nations now and forever formes a brother/sisterhood in muay Thai forever 🏁🥂🍺. Only sports and martial arts are The true winners.❤️❤️🇹🇭💙💙🇬🇧. Peace n respect n love in ALL The world.🙏

[@GavinKing_AKA_plumpNation]

Incredible, both of them.

[@jaymac7203]

Holy shit even 80 fights is a lot but 800 is just insane 😳

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

Dude, a kid in thailand has that record even before 12 years old. The 80 i mean.

[@erminiovrandi8811]

Damien is so good to watch he breathes muay thai

[@josemucarselsacoto5122]

Fantastico mr lawrence!

[@LawrenceKenshin]

thank you for watching

[@jansegal6687]

Phenomenal, especially Damien, this is how Muay Thai should look

[@bunnyofdoom4501]

Yooooo.... you covered another classic. Love both them guys and love ur analysis even more. U should coach if u don't already.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

thank you, i do selectively coach :). However putting entire focus into it would mean I'd be spread too thin! I do believe I'm innovating some training methods, such as combining true sport science / biomechanics study with technique training. Hope to share it soon.

[@bunnyofdoom4501]

@@LawrenceKenshin awesome man. Would have loved having u as a coach when I was coming up. Keep up the great stuff. I've enjoyed seeing ur vids evolve over the years. Innovate and create!

[@namapena4318]

The muay thai fighters are true knights. Do not hit when the enemy is not facing the face, do not attack the back of the head, do not attack when the opponent falls.

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

cringe

[@DMiddle]

Love this one, keep up the good work bro. Music was on point! what instrumental songs were those?

[@LRkun]

Ernesto would be so proud of his man. :3

[@djkillstreak33]

800!!!! How the fuck the amount of knowledge he must hold is beyond comprehension

[@WahineToa85]

Man what powerhouses such a good fight this was

[@toddianuzzi9296]

Awesome video

[@carloscastillo4082]

Beautiful video

[@imantaqwa9957]

The Thai did'nt care about the score. Never dodge just ate all of hits.

[@outlawandoutdoorstv9901]

That bruise under dudes arm is crazy ASF !!

[@digitalpunk5365]

Awesome videos. I have to subscribe instead of freeloading.

[@JasonTaroOfficial]

Omg, they were so swift and fast, every strikes were so scary

[@chai.bula1]

Imagine if only nowadays Muaythai fighters learn a thing or two from this clip, what a new era it'd be? Due to modern rules and technics as time evolves, it'd be a pity for old school tactics to die with them.

[@anthonysiu6010]

Love his tutorials

[@legion162]

I remember watching Russ Williams from North Wales, probably late 80s to mid 90s, thinking that the British fighters are on the up. Watching trainor and Harrison and realising they're are/were top of the sport, hopefully I'm still alive to see British fighters dominating.

[@LawrenceKenshin]

UK is so legit!

[@legion162]

@@LawrenceKenshin totally legit fighters, but across all the Mauy Thai weights there's only maybe a total of two or three uk fighters that make it in the top 10, and the only name that springs to mind is Heggerty (spelling?)

[@speedrob]

Are you still alive today? UK still going strong 🥊❤

[@demoremda]

holy shit epic fight, thnx for showing this

[@jasonzuvela]

Now you're into adding sound effects? 00:09

[@jackylam4341]

I love the fact that even the GOAT of Muay Thai can see that the Thais are stagnating the sport of Muay Thai with the newer focus on clinching and discouragement of footwork. I don’t know if the coming foreign generations of fighters will surpass the skill ceiling of the Thais but there is a good chance that they could. Edit: forgot about the gambling situation of Muay Thai, I think that is the main hold back instead. As for the “newer” or more mainstream Thai fighters they seem to favor more of the striking aspect instead of clinching although they do use it effectively. They are still raising the bar.

[@erminiovrandi8811]

I don't know man new fighters such as superbon, superlek, tawanchai, yodwicha and others are on a new level

[@VannTheDawn]

@@erminiovrandi8811 Capitan too. Dude is incredible in both Muay Thai and Kickboxing, knocking everyone out.

[@stephenshw2262]

Dont agree clinching has no footwork. A good clinch game is an art onto itself

[@erminiovrandi8811]

@@VannTheDawn right! I just named the first i thought of, i personally like muangthai also, not to say rodtang and stamp... we can go on

[@erminiovrandi8811]

@@stephenshw2262 maybe they mean 'boxing' footwork

[@MrJerrylebron]

Please make one video on tawanchai skills and techniques, from saenchai gym 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@angelojaegerrafael]

Love this man

[@madmaster3d]

so who won? 800 fights old schol or new schol?

[@suhribzevolution645]

Old

[@madmaster3d]

@@suhribzevolution645 ty

[@henning14]

This fight is such fun to watch. Last year I've met Damion at one of his seminar. It's a great investment....

[@firstlast-ns2qo]

Amazing fight

[@LawrenceKenshin]

Indeed

[@eightras.]

tawatchai move's like "snap". you can clearly see the exp. gap..and that bruise...ouch late pain effect

[@danslattery1282]

Damien is our local boy. I train at the same branch of Thai boxing gym as him in Birmingham, K-Star

[@LawrenceKenshin]

awesome bro great gym

[@11176]

अबे चल नारसिसिस्ट छिलपट.... जंगल मे मोर नाचा किसने देखा..?

[@sugunanar6592]

@@11176 yeah right is there muay Thai in India lol

[@GurneroMaelstrom]

There's Muay Thai in almost every corner of the world now.

[@denismutabazi]

I can see both these guys are their trainers favourites

[@mikeypara178]

Those right kicks, like being whipped with a hot chain, absolute warriors 👍🏻❤

[@RRSambor]

Image how the situation would look like if the Thais would not be so open to teach the muay thai to the foreigners

[@mochiisntbad6762]

When the main characters meet each other.

[@javacoi]

Roasted ribs. Haha. But he's up there with dekkers. Great legendary fighters 👌

[@dreadknot2238]

Don't matter old vs new style it all about change and adapt.

[@ahustler81]

Was lucky enough to see trainor fight several times. Uk scene was pumping then trainor, Watson, Harrison, thrasher, dicks, Cadden, and even howson who had a couple of classics which trainor. I saw there match at skens show, was my first show and I could t believe how fast they were, awesome, howson won too I think ?

[@santigallardo3342]

1:32 link of this video???

[@ryanstafford1832]

What happened to the fighting giants seminar bro? Great vid man

[@LawrenceKenshin]

it's not a seminar, it's actually a huge video course... coming within 1 month!

[@hitman3648]

Wait, havent you made a video on this before?

[@capoeirastronaut]

His shoulder - ow!

[@豪傑-h8c]

i want to learn from this man

[@gaminikokawalage7124]

Tawachai should start a barbeque joint. Those ribs were fall off the bone tender

[@johnhasselnook5068]

At what gym does Tawatchai Budsadee teach on Koh Samui Island?

[@kaimuhlenhoff9113]

He used to teach at Lamai Muay Thai Camp (WMC Samui), but left when Covid hit. I thought he left the island then, but I accidentally ran into him in July this year. He asked me to bring him to a small gym where he gives technical training... it's on the road to Chaweng (left side) at the end of Lamai. The gym cannot be seen from the road. He got off my bike and entered a small side road.

[@vandakaii2893]

Imagine even making it thru 800 fights in the first place and still being strong enough or not badly injured to keep going... Hell imagine even getting thru 300 or so...