8GB VRAM On A Budget

[@aleksadjokic8898]

I just got a RX 570 8GB for 60 euros and being able to max out textures in a lot of 2020-2021 games is a blessing

[@Dragonlord826]

Got one myself in 2021 for the same price (USD equivalent) absolute beast at 1080p and 900p

[@Las_croquetoak_de_Txapote]

Got the rx590 8gb for 90 euros. Since then it's my daily drive for games and I'm as satisfied as my apu

[@goncalomoura9816]

A little known secret, you can get an RX 470 8 GB mining edition for 20 or 30€ (the ones with no output ports), miners are just throwing them away because nobody buys a card with no connectors and CeX does not accept them, but they all have an hidden HDMI port inside that you can easily solder back on, or if you don't want any trouble, just simply use the CPU iGPU output port on your motherboard, it works just fine...

[@Squidgy55]

@@goncalomoura9816 Nice comment! 👍

[@Kosakate]

mine is dying cuz my cpu isn't enough

[@smileyguyz]

The entire reason I chose my RX480 8gb in Jan 2020 was for the 8gb of VRAM. The 2gb of VRAM was holding my GTX950 back in nearly every game, and I knew I didn't want to fuss with things for a long time. I think I chose quite well considering I was able to get it for only $100 used, and I'm still using it with no real plan of upgrading.

[@lukman_427]

What is your CPU?

[@r34ztune11]

Same for me with my $155 new RX 570 8GB in mid 2020. But to be fair, it was the only choice that made sense. Nvidia had the 1050ti and 1650 at the same price point. The RX 580 and 590 cost a bit more for not much more performance and the 1650 Super 4GB cost around $300 (Nvidia fail). Very happy with the 570 8GB, especially after modding the BIOS and pushing it to RX 580 performance while undervolting for less noise and heat. I've noticed almost every AAA game newer than 2016 will use between 4 and 5GB of VRAM when maxed out. RE Village goes up to 7.7GB. If you ask me, cards with less than 8GB of VRAM stopped making sense 3 years ago already.

[@smileyguyz]

@@lukman_427 I have an i5 8600. Surprisingly, I'm more inclined to upgrade that before I'm going to touch the GPU

[@seizonsha]

I play the latest AAA games so my 480 became obsolete a few years ago.

[@smileyguyz]

@@seizonsha Even in AAA games mine will hit at least 45fps with decent settings at 1080p. Dropping to medium/low basically guarantees 60fps in any game, or at least until I get bottlenecked by my CPU. I guess if you want to play on ultra then it probably won't be the card for you lol

[@priitmolder6475]

The R9 390X 8GB version I got in 2015 supported the 4K60 monitor until February this year. Thats over 7 years of service. I will always have a deep respect what it could achieve. 7900XTX will be a worthy successor with its 24GB...

[@Orcawhale1]

The 390X is a rebranded 290X and were never capable of using the huge vram buffer. The 4k 60 was dicatated by the transfer speed of the outputs and cable's.

[@priitmolder6475]

@@Orcawhale1 Indeed, 4K was not recommended, but it could do it. Have a huge respect that it could

[@321backlip]

Frame that bad boi.

[@thechamfam2328]

That's quite the upgrade...I'm assuming you upgraded everything. Good shit

[@priitmolder6475]

@@thechamfam2328 Im waiting for the AM5 platform to mature.

[@TH3C001]

As an RX 6600 owner, I recommend it. It was a birthday gift from a good friend. I don’t play a lot of games, nor very demanding ones, Doom 2016 on occasion, some Minecraft, way too much War Thunder, the Master Chief Collection from time to time. But the way it maxes out each game with ease on my 1080p monitor meets my needs and I can say I’m more than satisfied. I plan to keep this card for a while, the only reason I’d consider upgrading is for an eventual RX 7600, if it ever happens, for the supposed AV1 encode RDNA III GPUs are supposed to be capable of, as I like to record a lot of my gameplay, but my internet prevents me from streaming. Unless of course they start stripping encoders again like they did to the RX 6500...

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

you might as well wait for the 8000 generation.

[@gamingoptimized]

To be fair, I am running a GTX 1060 3GB and if you check my channel that has benchmarks with it. It can handle most of today's games even when going over the VRAM limit.

[@jochenkraus7016]

Do the Ryzen 7000 CPUs include the encoders/decoders? If yes then this limitation is less of a problem in the future. At the release of the 6500XT/6400 that was annoying. Just like 4GB and only 4x PCIe. My old RX550 already has 4GB.

[@Orcawhale1]

No doubt a German main.

[@Droopy95mkDS]

Got a 6600 running alongside a Ryzen 5500 and 32 gigs DDR4. Best machine I ever had on my freakin desk

[@KomradeMikhail]

RX 5700XT is the real sweet spot for used/remanufactured cards right now... But honorable mention to the 5700 non-XT flashed with an XT vBIOS for massive gains.

[@ssben7605]

@@forzaflyracer3473 how long was delivery or have you just ordered the card?

[@fusionmotiontm]

i would flash my 5700 but i dont have a dual switch thingy i forgot the word and idk how risky it is i dont wanna brick my card

[@KomradeMikhail]

@@ssben7605 You quickly get the hang of what parts are good deals and which ones smell fishy. There are reliable sellers and "brands" even within the remanufactured or knockoff chinesium goods. Once you understand the quality of the product, the value of the deals make more sense.

[@fusionmotiontm]

@@KomradeMikhail luckily i have an old rx460 as backup so i might try! ty brother

[@TruzzleBruh]

I hate that I bought one new for 420 in 2020 with all that’s been going on in the gpu world

[@klrct5736]

So nice to see this channel start to get the attention it deserves.

[@Felipemelazzi]

I went from the GTX 750 (1GB) to the RX 6600 (8GB). Let me tell you... that was not a jump, it was a rocket-propelled bunny-hop with a jetpack! I recommend =)

[@Coreydangdoe]

Picked up a Titan Xp for $170 last week and I've been having a blast with it. Always wanted a Pascal reference card, and it's an absolute beast in my setup. Having all that vram is cozy too

[@Canma890]

Is the Titan XP better than a 1080Ti?

[@ez45]

No, in fact it's slightly worse because it's the same card lower clocks. But it does have more VRAM

[@Kaelidoz]

I got a RX6650xt (weird EU prices) for me and I gifted my "old" RX580 8GB to my sister-in-law. My SO got an RX6600, she gave her 980ti to a friend who in return gifted his 970 to my 12 years old nephew. Hardware last and is enjoyable for a long time, that's nice. Really happy that you're close to 25k subs! 100k isn't far now.

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

The thing about more VRAM is that it allows for better/higher texture quality, which usually does not impact performance. So it's essentially a free visual upgrade even if the performance isn't as good. Performance can be improved with lower settings, but losing out on the visual quality at the same time because of lower quality textures even if I could have them without sacrificing performance means I'll have the worst of both worlds. The RX580 8GB is an old card at this point, and performance in newer games is basically a console experience, but games still look nice because of the higher quality textures. I'd rather have that than be forced to upgrade because my game both runs and looks like crap.

[@narwhal4304]

I used an RX 6600 for a while, and it was a great upgrade over my GTX 1070. The card met my expectations when I bought it for 300USD last year, running everything I played at high with 100+ FPS, or 60FPS if I wanted to use ultra settings. I, like some others in the comments, would recommend just pulling the trigger on a 6600 if they live in the US or UK and can spend 200-250 USD or pounds on a GPU, and don't want to look for a used 6600XT.

[@blackraven8841]

With the new prices, I payed $50 more for 6700xt. But that's after a year with new releases out.

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

Vega56/64, or Radeon RX 5700XT are the cards I would recommend for 1080p 60 if you can get them at a good price. The Vega Lineup, which includes the Radeon VII, is quite solid. The Radeon VII is a special niche card that still commands value due to its 16GB of HBM2 memory but Vega56/64 can be had for a very good price. There are also Vega Frontier edition cards that sometimes you can get for a good price and those have 16GB of VRAM.

[@JVCFever0]

I bought a Vega 56 for my wife's PC for $87, and it's amazing for that price!

[@RexNathanChan]

Yep got. VEGA 56 8GB FOR 90AUD OFF FB MKTPLACE

[@WSS_the_OG]

Your wit and dry humour get more and more entertaining with each new video. It's been fascinating to see (and hear) you come into your own since your early days on KZbin. I mentioned in another video of yours (published about two years ago, but only recently watched by me) that I just picked up an RX 480 8GB for $50 USD. At that price, even though I didn't "need it," I "needed it." You know what I mean. No idea what I'm going to do with it yet, but I expect it'll go to a friend in need at some point, haha. P.S. The card was not mined on, and used in a media PC for most of its life. Bargain. Keep up the great work!

[@Centuria-lj9tq]

Very underrated Channel. Hope this will change in the near future! Thanks for the high quality informations!

[@Swishcc]

I recently picked up a 6900xt open box and Last Of Us still mange’s to use all of the 16gb of vram which shows a scary future.

[@ashce10]

6600 is quite good from my own experience, runs great on just about anything modern. It's price being mid $200 or Euros probably makes it a safe bet just to commit if you need an upgrade these days. As you stated near the end risking another GPU shortage imo means if you need something now I'd just commit to a 6600. It's priced about what a 1060 6gb was back in the day anyway in the USA.

[@MAWIMO0]

I have the card, and so far it runs well

[@CJvzla]

Just got a 6600, my first ever gpu upgrade, intended for vide editing but of course I have to play some games and I'm more than happy, plays nice with my old grandpa i7 3770 and my jaw just dropped when I first played cyberpunk, I don't need every single thing turned on and definitely no ray tracing but can handle 60+ fps on mostly everything I've thrown at it!

[@pk417]

Glad u guys saved your money I would say there is huge library of past released games instead of playing newer games that are having problem in running at ultra textures on 8gb vram play older titles untill your next upgrade U guys are atleast on very good side think about people who bought 3070ti

[@cavegamer5989]

Yes! It is really great. Even the latest games can be maxed out at 1080p at over 100fps and at 1440p, 60fps is possible at medium or high on all games Quite impressive for the $195 I paid. It also crushes my friends 3050 and beats my brother in laws 3060 in some games. Fine wine is a real thing, the card only gets better over time.

[@pk417]

@@cavegamer5989 u should have gone with 3060 or 6700xt

[@TheHoldenmcgroin]

The fact the "cracked" version of Hogwarts runs WAY better on my PC than the retail version says a lot. Bought it, as its amazing and the Devs deserve the money, but man its not very well optimised with that awful DRM...

[@Idlepit2]

It's funny because the thing they add to stop piracy (DRM) is actually driving up piracy because the DRM often tanks the games performance, at this point they'd be better off just not adding it especially since it costs them a decent amount to implement and is usually cracked within a week anyway I feel like they're probably spending more on DRM than it's actually saving them by stopping piracy for a week and it only punishes their paying customers

[@telsan4291]

I’d recommend a RX6600 purely for the price to value and also the efficiency of the card as it’s only a 130w tdp. I managed to get one on eBay for £175 used like new however they hover around £200, for that price it’s a 9 teraflop GPU with 8GB of RAM, which going forward seems like will be the minimum VRAM spec. This card sits nicely in my SFF build using only a 330w PSU, efficient gaming FTW ha Maybe if you can get your hands on a RX6600 you can do a review? 😬 Great context btw 👌

[@thevideolord]

I just recently picked up an EVGA 1080Ti from a friend for $200 and I can confirm that it's still a beast. with the help of Fidelity FX, I can get 90-100fps in Cyberpunk 2077 on ultra 1440p with motion blur off, and anisotropic filtering brought down to 4x

[@SanctusBacchus]

I upgraded a little while ago from my 1080 to a 4080 for $1k and have been loving the 250-400% increase in performance; that being said, if I had the Ti variant, I would have definitely held onto it for another year or two. Pascal still holds up incredibly well for 1080p, however for 1440p, only the 1080 Ti can hold its own.

[@MrJaman0083]

My 1080ti just died last week.🫡 thank for your service

[@blackraven8841]

@@MrJaman0083 F

[@MarcosCodas]

Sill holding on fine with my RX580 8GB from my 2019 build.

[@idklmaostilldontknow3592]

Great video. I love reusing older hardware cuz not everyone is able to afford all the new fancy stuff

[@Bunny501]

Well i got a GTX 1070. It's been serving me for 7 years and It's a real bummer how little the consumer GPU's have moved forward. I ain't spending a fortune on a new card with the *same ammount of VRAM* as my 7 yo card.

[@safe2speed271]

Just bought 1080ti for 120$

[@marshallmcluhan33]

vram will matter more than raw cpu clocks in the next little while. I think 8GB might be a little too small but all the cards are overpriced so getting a nice used one for now makes sense. good video

[@marshallmcluhan33]

@Noodles Greenskin Yeah I think Nvidia is heavily subsidized by the US gov so they don't sell too much to China. Add that to the fact that GPUs are a luxury item and they can change as much as they want. AI will push the vram wars to the edge I think.

[@stratuvarious8547]

For anyone interested in playing the newest triple A games, I'd strongly suggest buying the RX 6700 as the lowest option you should consider, with 10 GB of Vram, it has the same amount as the amount of Ram the Series X can allocate to it's graphics. If you don't care about playing those, then there is no reason that 8 GB of Vram can't keep you happy for a long time.

[@paulojamesminimoisaac7858]

wrong, series X has 10gb fast memory and 3.5gb 25% slower memory.

[@Vfl666]

There is allready a game that requires 8gb vram as the absolut minimum Immortals of Aveum.

[@Raging]

For the love of god, the consoles do not have 16gb of vram, it's unified memory that's used for both video and system functions, 13.5gb is reseved for games to use in both, while console games obviously have less and more efficient memory usae due to them being closed platforms that doesn't mean they're allocating a whole ass 10gb out of 13.5 on video leaving only 3.5 for everything else.

[@grainthe2nd71]

As one of the few owners of a Vega 56, at 1440p, it holds up really really well.

[@ez45]

There are dozens of us. We should've sold during the mining frenzy and bought an RDNA2 card for the same money, though, I think. Vega was pretty popular then

[@grainthe2nd71]

@@ez45 Absolutely, I saw them going for $600+, definitely should have sold it

[@dummiesgoogr4357]

Good catches there. Keep an eye out for an R9 390 8gb for $40 used as well as the R9 fury and R9 nano. They might be 4gb, but the different Vram architecture makes them similar to a gtx 1660. -have to really try to add value, great job!

[@darthwiizius]

I upgraded from my 1060 6GB almost exactly 3 years ago because it's 6 chip memory solution was making it's performance fall off a cliff compared to 8GB 8 chip competitors. I replaced it with a 2060S so got both an 8 chip card and one with higher bandwidth per chip. It's still fine at 1080P and DLSS keeps it ahead of anything new at anywhere near the price I'd get for selling it. I'll keep it for another year or two then replace it with a 16GB card.

[@ItsJustElenore]

JUST bought a Sapphire RX480 8G for 59€ on ebay, right when you uploaded this one. To think that people wanted (and got!) sometimes over 200€ for them just a year or so ago is just crazy.

[@stirfrysensei]

VRAM requirements are definitely going up, no question, but one of the best reasons to game on PC is the vast amount of scalability on offer. It’s been like that for over a decade, even on games that were PC only. Graphical presets are a thing and have been a thing for a very long time, and they used to mean something. Now, in games like The Last of Us, turning settings down to Medium results in a muddy mess. A Plague Tale: Requiem (a current gen only title) scales remarkably well with the visual settings, and that studio had less than half the budget and team size. Sure, we’ve had a few Crysis-like games that push the boundaries, and I’d argue it’s good for the industry to have those, but I can’t help but shake this feeling that a lot of studios are just not taking the time to properly scale visuals down appropriately anymore, whether that be due to time constraints or the desire not to. Either way, it’s not the consumers responsibility to brute force system requirements by being forced to spend a grand every couple of years just to be able to get decent performance. For the high end, sure, but for everyone else it’s insane to expect upgrades so fast. If publishers want to raise the price of games (and you’d better believe they will keep pushing for that) then we should expect a premium product that isn’t a buggy, broken mess, requiring 12GBs of VRAM to simply have a game look as good as it did on the PS5 , a console that is vastly out of date already. The Last of Us IS poorly optimized, and side by side comparisons to the console version of the Remake is incredibly sobering just how poorly optimized it is. I find it highly disturbing that so many influential figures in the PC gaming space are using this horribly optimized game as the smoking gun to prove to everyone that we absolutely NEED 16GB VRAM at a minimum, when the reality is that a lot of these PC games, and many PC ports in the past, are just poorly optimized. And of course, in the midst of the “you need 16GB VRAM to run any game in 2023” argument, Dead Island 2 comes out and competently optimized. Yes, a game that has been in development hell for years came out more optimized than one of the most lauded and praised games of the last decade. What a crazy world we live in.

[@tojiroh]

This. When it comes to irrationality, consistently rising hardware specs just to make up for poor optimization (on AAA titles, no less) seems to be the norm. Most low budget/indie games on my catalogue run perfectly fine on my Ryzen 4650G iGPU 😉

[@braxtonprichard7106]

I can't believe you have this few views and subscribers. You deserve 5M+ subscribers. I hope you get sponsors and stuff like that so we could see some current gen reviews. Keep it up man I love your videos.

[@ocha-time]

For the record: 3050 is terrible deal, do not buy for more than $170. 6600 is mostly fine, WAY better performance than 3050. Haven't tried A750 but it sounds like it's pretty good and getting better every day, but the 3050 should not be bought, pretty much for any reason. You're so far ahead with the 6600 that any "benefit" from upscaling/raytracing is lost by being pounded so badly with rasterized performance. It's only good for production, and you should be buying better in that case.

[@CJvzla]

Just got a XFX 6600 for $250, my first ever gpu upgrade, intended for video editing but of course I have to play some games and I'm more than happy, plays nice with my old grandpa i7 3770 and my jaw just dropped when I first played cyberpunk, I don't need every single thing turned on and definitely no ray tracing but can handle 60+ fps on mostly everything I've thrown at it!

[@poorNOOB]

12:27 For someone who interests in this card, The rx5700xt card showed here(with dual fans and yellow/gold accents) is called Dataland X-Serial Rx5700xt. The brand itself is an original/legitimate ones, not a re-manufactured brand, it just is a China exclusive.

[@Forydel]

Description and References to the other videos used in the video are done well. Keep up the good work👍

[@olnnn]

There is a lot to criticize the rx 6500 for but I really don't see what's the issue with only 2 video outputs on a budget oriented cart. Doubt there are that many people in the market for it that need more than 2.

[@grischu8277]

RX 6700 XTs are getting surprisingly cheap on the used market. I got one for under 300. And I regularly see them selling for under 300. With its 12 GB of VRam, it should be performing very well, well into the future (maybe not on max settings). Additionally, the RDNA 2 Architecture will stay relevant a few years after the next gen consoles release.

[@joemarais7683]

After testing with a 3090 and 4090 and looking at allocated VRAM, I do find it funny how RE4R was the first “Unnecessarily High VRAM Usage” game that isn’t absolutely terrible, despite there being issues since 2020, though sparse back then. It feels like 4GB is still good enough if you avoid AAA games, which in 2023 almost sounds like a good thing.

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Speaking about AAA titles, denuvo is also a performance hogger. However, for newer titles, it's expected to be removed at one point. Because denuvo changed from lifetime license to subscription license.

[@lanelesic]

As an owner of the 3060 12GB I was thinking how I overpaid a bit and how 12GB of vram was overkill for 1080p (dual monitor setup but games run at 1080p native on one monitor) but I guess I was lucky I didnt go for the ~100 euro cheaper 2060 6GB. 2060 12GB and 2060 super with its 8GB are real hard to find.

[@TheTryingDutchman]

Same for me, i saved up 800 euro, the price of a 3070 back than, but ended up going for a 3060 12gb because my 2 last videocards were rendered useless because of a lack of vram. (they had 2 and 4 gb of vram) I spend 469 euro on the 3060 12gb and bought an electric scooter with the rest of the money haha.

[@Ignacio.Romero]

Should've bought a 6650

[@Killersnake432]

Yeah I went with 3060 12GB too since my card before I was using 1050ti for 6 years and figured now is the right time to go for it. Since I was gonna wait for a 4060 and 4060ti but seeing the rumors of them being 8GB cards... So I took the leap and have no regrets for the past month. Since im American... I got it for 380 USD.

[@pk417]

@Blue 6700 is not that faster plus have 10gb vram instead 12gb 6700xt is good choice over 3060 if u don't need rt But 6700 is not

[@Ignacio.Romero]

@@pk417 Even the 6650xt is faster, the 6700 is much faster

[@HardWhereHero]

found that aisurix RX580 at a local bin store for $8 freakin bucks! Still in the box. its a return but it works. I have a 3060 ti so im probably gonna give it to a friend. I could not belive no one else had picked it up yet but it did have another box it was shipped in so it was hard to tell what it was. I knew when I read "Light up your JOYOUSNESS" & "MORE COL GAMES" on the box, I had a chinese GPU on my hands.

[@andrerx]

my 6 month rx6600 is still holding strong i dont think i would change gpu in 5/6 years now

[@d8_prime]

Love seeing the rx580 2048sp. It's really good for its cost but needs to be careful while obtaining one.

[@JensTX]

Because most of them have been used for mining?

[@pfizerpricehike9747]

@@JensTX this and they are old But normally mining cards are actually better than gaming cards, miners -even tho they are a threat to society and the environment- actually care about one thing, money, so they don’t wanna destroy their cards. Also leaving a card running for 2 years degrades the card only a tad bit, unlike the multiple tens or hundreds of heat cycles per day in normal use, it’s like a taxi vs your own car, the taxi will probably hold up longer bc it’s motor never has to run cold. The change in temperature therefore expansion of every material used in the gpu is what kills your Hardware usually. Just don’t get ripped off bc like the video says, miners also have no vertebrae and will sell their mining cards as “new”

[@NoseMain]

hey, nice pfp

[@d8_prime]

@@NoseMain you too😂🔥

[@d8_prime]

@Blue true but it's really hard to find them in my country 🥲

[@thefreakhouse]

So I just beat TLOU on PC yesterday, after complaining about getting a 6700xt instead of a 3070 for once I was happy with my decision thanks to the 12gb of vram

[@leroyjenkins0736]

Amd always ages better you made the right choice welcome to the red team

[@cunt5413]

You will appreciate the larger VRAM in the coming years. No doubt about it. Once the devs completely ditch PS4, it will be even more apparent.

[@thefreakhouse]

@@cunt5413 oh yeah, given the new consoles have around 16GB of vram even the 6700xt will quickly be struggling but it’s gonna be good for now

[@cunt5413]

@@thefreakhouse I think it will be fine for a while since the 16 GB is shared between the CPU and GPU part of the chip. Might need to lower the texture quality if you're playing in higher resolution though. But it'll still be able to run everything.

[@RuruFIN]

I'm happy that I went for a 6700 XT as well

[@lord-fishv7355]

I undervolted my ZOTAC GTX 1080TI mini to 1500 MHz at 750mV draws about 130 Watts and get up to 60c best £150 ive ever spent, but sadly it dead so and i had some money that i was saving up for a big PC upgrade anyway so i got myself a XFX 7900xtx black for £994.

[@peterpipe9015]

Yeah bro undervolting is the way to go . My rtx 3070 dropped 15c and once i undervolted my i5 11400 it dropped another 5c .

[@g4md0r32]

There are some devs saying that the standard for 1440p is going to become 12gb and it kinda is already on ultra settings. So if you are going to play the newest games yes 8gb is NOT enough. That said, if you are like me and are a cheapskate you will get by on a 2gb 1050 mobile card for a year or 2 until prices come down a bit.

[@killakame-3434]

You are the only Guy on KZbin who talks about cards below 100$ ... Everyone else don't know that any Card exists below 250$

[@TakaChan569]

For the love of god do not overlook the ARC cards, the work that has went into them since launch has them be great for low to mid end PC builds.

[@groza8179]

Recently bought an RX 6600 for my first gaming PC for the insane price of around $130. It was an ex mining GPU but only for about 4 months of mining usage. I have been intensively testing it and it has no problems at all. Paired it with my Ryzen 5 4500, and it performs really well. I think i just made the best $400+ gaming PC.

[@excavator5136]

I still have the gtx 1050 2gb option and he is really good

[@Sjoukehoogland]

Thanks to your recommandation I got a vega 56 for only €100! For this price it’s a beast!

[@ZetaRidge7]

I've just got an EVGA GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 card for about 150 Canadian Dollars used to replace my still decent performing GTX 970 (which I plan on using for a sleeper build this year) for better performance in system intensive emulators and video encoding during rendering videos. And for sub 150 dollars in Canada, the 1070 seems like a huge boost in performance. :)

[@darthwiizius]

Pascal was a big efficiency upgrade on Maxwell. I replaced a 770 2GB with a 1060 6GB in 2017 because it outperformed a 970 and was way cheaper than an RX580. In fact if you go like for like out of the box the 1060 doubled the FPS rates of the 960, heck of a good bump was Pascal.

[@DarkLinkAD]

@@darthwiizius The 1060 was never cheaper than the 580. The 580 was cheaper that 1050. The 1060 was really a replacement for the 970 and its price reflected that. Edit: Note the 770 is Kepler, not that you said otherwise though.

[@darthwiizius]

@@DarkLinkAD I know the 770 was Kepler and no the 1060 was the replacement for the 960 not the 970, the 1070 replaced the 970. In 2017 1060 6GBs were going for £180 (Why I bought one) and the RX580s were going for £330 (why I didn't buy one), shoot due to crypto you couldn't even find 570s in 2017 for the price of 1060s because miners didn't want 1060s, so you are totally wrong there too.

[@DarkLinkAD]

@@darthwiizius Again, the price reflected the replacement not the names. The MSRP for a GTX 970 was 329$ and for a 1060 300$, with similar if not the same performance at the time. The 480 however had an msrp of 199$ and could be found for 140$ USD in 2017 and Cheaper in China.

[@LurkingLarper]

It's even worse than your conclusion suggests: 8GB cards are quickly becoming obsolete as well. If you're buying a new card, I would highly recommend getting 12 or 16GB if you just can. Otherwise you'll be relegated to playing 1080 low or medium settings with new titles. 8GB is fine if you don't plan on playing new games, but that's kind of a niche case. I'd expect you'd want to play new titles with your shiny new card, after all.

[@Heldermaior]

A lot of the problems with modern ports could be addressed. Including VRAM. Problem is some of the ports basically use PC hardware as if it has a unified memory architecture and call it a day. The Reason the Deck works so well btw is that it can allocate over 8GB of its memory to VRAM and shares a unified memory architecture as well.

[@gunfugames7430]

Yesterday a bought rtx 2060 6bg with ryzen 2600. Hoping to having a blast upgrading from gtx 770 with i7 920.

[@HarimeNuiChan]

I had my gtx 980 from 2014/2021 lasted me many years the 4gb vram but then 2022 was obsolete so I switch to my 6900xt and I'm fine now

[@theftking]

Don't buy an 8GB card unless you intend to stay at 1080p for the foreseeable future. 12GB is the absolute minimum, with 16GB being preferable for 1440p.

[@yasu_red]

The recent 8gb drama is valid, but it's still more than plenty for GPUs at a lower price/performance bracket. My 8gb RX 5700 runs any game I throw at it just fine, and VRAM is rarely a bottleneck for me at 1080p high/ultra even without a lot of tweaks to settings.

[@allmonor]

8gb is perfectly fine for a Rx5700 or a Gtx1080... however, once you get stronger GPUs then that, you will run into bottlenecks with that ram. If the upcoming rtx 4060 for example which should be significantly more powerful then these cards fails to deliver more than 8gb, it will be a huge issue for the card, because it has the power to use much more (we see this on the merely 2 years old 3070 already). This is only amplified by the fact that 1440p or even 4k gaming is becoming the new norm

[@pk417]

Not true for latest games Definitely 8gb vram problem for upcoming titles

[@sL1NK]

These remanufactured 580s are super scammy. Whats even more scammier is that lots of youtubers (e.g. Toastybros) are advertising these as good purchase. What a shame.

[@WASD-MVME]

I hope once you get sent new gpus you don't forget the used market and budget segment..... awesome video and food for thought

[@FireFalcon]

Idk how it is with other cards but my Vega 56 needed new thermal pads and thermal paste because it would crash every hour or so of usage. I repasted my Gigabyte model with lots of K5 for the thermal pads, and made sure that there was a lot of splooge with the HBM chips and the GPU core. Now it runs at 25 degrees idle and 67 Max with a gaming and transcoding workload. 😊

[@kawafahra]

Undervolt it, and overclock the memory. 100mv less voltage at state 6 and 7 makes it run way cooler, clocking the vram to at least 920mhz gives you better min fps. Both are way within safety margin.

[@ghalefamily-qt7jm]

oh i see the gigabyte model of the vega 56 has to be the worst one,the best ones are sapphire pulse or powercolor red dragon

[@certs743]

Looking back when I got a gently used GTX 1080ti it doesn't seem so "overkill" anymore.

[@MrJaman0083]

It came out 7 years ago and you could Sli them.

[@usecode-gb5lj]

This channel will grow very fast soon

[@LUVlxserr]

Im literally on 4gb vram running a gtx 1650 laptop and im hella happy😭

[@TH3C001]

Also, wow, 17k views in 7 hours! First you were gaining traction, now I believe you’re beginning to accelerate! 👍

[@Sheerwinter]

Selling a less loved family member 💀. That's me actually.

[@nanenab8744]

I have rx6600 and it's amazing card. I recommend it to everyone looking for upgrade from something like rx 570.

[@GTFour]

Better to get a 6600/6650 over a 5700xt these days for the longer & better driver support and less power usage

[@ddevin]

I've heard that a magical place called candy mountain sells modern GPUS at a reasonable price.

[@mjworks8025]

Nice video, i actually considered to upgrade my 1060 6Gb card, but i only play small and not really demanding games. also the desire to have those shining rtx graphics cards are tingling to me. so perhaps i just wait until my gpu dies or those mobile games that relased on pc wants more vram

[@Inski584]

I chose an extreme budget option and got a Quadro M5000 for free from work. I only play very light games and it works great there. Looks lovely too.

[@DiamondDepthYT]

I'm still waiting to upgrade, my gtx 1660 6gb is running strong. If I ever do upgrade, I'm praying it will be Intel Arc A770. But, as a mainly Virtual Reality user, I can get that card just yet. I really want to ditch AMD and NVIDIA with their greedy pricing.

[@shakal_]

specifically used 5500 xt with 8 gb is a great option because the card itself is not old, so chances are if you buy one itll serve you for at least 3 years

[@adriandabrowski4990]

i found a gtx 1070 which had normal case fans instead of gpu fans and it works completely fine and costed me 65 usd

[@BuzzBazzJ]

Bought a 1070 used for about 300$ about 4/5years ago… new thermal paste and pad every now and then and it’s still kicking, but oh damn it is being felt.

[@GLDragon93]

Gonna keep my 5600xt for a few more years for 1080p and pick up a decent 12gb or more when upgrading and moving to 1440p, then again if I can get a good 1440p monitor in the near future the 5600xt can somewhat do 1440p 50-60fps with tweaked settings and reasonable expectations.

[@ggmgoodgamingmichael7706]

On VEGA turn on HBCC. Would be an awesome and relevant thing to test it now as it does help extend vram to a great extent.

[@sweatbox128]

it's honestly so frustrating seeing poor optimization becoming such a ubiquitous trend. the capabilities of current gen hardware is more than enough to run these games and anything else we can throw at them, except we barely get more for our money these days as developers rely on upscaling techniques to mask inefficient pipelines and unrealistic expectations from studios. it creates an environment where people are incentivized to toss their older, perfectly working tech in favor of (inadvertently) supporting rampant consumerism and material shortages. i just want my games to run well man

[@cykablyatman5758]

6700xt going for about $250 on eBay US rn. 12 gb of vram and just raw performance of that card Is definitely worth it at that price

[@IdunRedstone]

Watching this months later, but one of main reasons USD price is basically GBP price is the GBP price includes 20% VAT, the USA price does NOT include any of their sales tax. ALthough in their defense sales tax is usually a lot below 20. Also a 2060 12GB is closer to a 2060 super 12GB than a 2060. It's got a lot of improvements from super despite dumb name.

[@kingcrackedhen3572]

Good video thanks for making it

[@silver1407]

my 4gb 1650s ran Warzone and mw2019 multiplayer both fine, at around 90fps at 1080 custom high settings, it even just a few years ago the 1650s was living a good life

[@SnowWow]

I keep finding rtx 2070's for around 200-250 pounds, its insane how cheap they got

[@armed_but_blind2768]

Good vid fella

[@maynardcrow6447]

I have a 5700 xt and a 1080 ti. Just get the 5700 xt for less money. It's the better bargain for sure and since driver updates and optimizations it can be 10 to %20 faster than a 1080 ti in quite a few titles.

[@deepbluereason]

Crazy that this video isn't even a year old the conversation has already catapulted to whether 12GB VRAM is enough for 1080p.

[@dabigbadwolf5081]

I got a 2060S for 130€ last week. I upgraded from a 1060 6gb mostly for half life alyx and because I have a Pico 4 Vr headset now. I think the 2060S is a really good sweet spot for budget VR and DLSS is a good benefit also.

[@michaelbramall6799]

2060super is definitely one of those cards that most overlook, but paired with plenty of ram and a half decent CPU, you essentially get a build that is at the first rung of 'High end' in my opinion.

[@nikosensei1258]

@@michaelbramall6799 mine is ryzen 3600 16gb ram + 2060super, i dont see any problem at 60fps/1080p high setting, maybe some unoptimized game. 2060S is a level below 3060 so it would be fine

[@michaelbramall6799]

@@nikosensei1258 the ryzen 3600 with it's 6 cores and 12 threads paired with the 2060 supers 8gb of Vram and still pretty modern graphics processing features is absolutely fine for solid 1080p gaming. I wouldn't be complaining to much if it was all I could have

[@bakedboii]

I have a 1660ti and it’s on its last legs I feel like

[@leonius]

Me to my rx580 4gb and empty wallet: don't worry, you'll still be used for a while I'm seriousness, I mainly play single player gamer, and not all games I play or like to play at max settings, and the games I ocassionaly play online (I still play bf4 to this day) I play on the lowest graphics settings anyway, so for the time being, my rx580 4gb will still serve me pretty good

[@Sir-Prizse]

I have recently upgraded from a 2GB GTX 1050 to a GTX 1660 Super with 6GB... You might ask why I didn't spend a little more for a card with 8GB... but I had set myself a limit of 200 €, wanted a Nvidia GPU and honestly... I can also just look in 1 - 2 years what will be available and buy something more fancy. Before the 6GB becomes a problem, the GPU itself will be too slow. I built my system around a 450 watt power supply, so i will always have to pay some attention to power consumption... An RTX 3070 would still be feasible.

[@Uraim]

ok, so i got a Vega64 for a good deal, it was 110euro, also local, so the shipping fee was only 5euro, and the GPU ran flawlessly for 2weeks, and the gpu started crashing on game engines, and the issue with amd cards is the phase controller if its bad, or just one vrm rail malfunctions in core supplying, the card is unusable! Same with RX 5xxx and 6xxx cards. Nvidia cards VRM rails are made better, cuz if one goes out, and its open circuit then the card is still allive, just the remaining vrm's are loaded a bit more. I have found locally an RX470 for 50eur and i will ask the dude about the phase controller, cuz the VRM issues started appearing when AMD implemented that the card vrm should send the power to the core in series pulse. It was when the R9-200 flagship cards appeared.

[@Mikaas111]

Another selling point of the vega 56 and 64 is HBCC, which basically makes it possible to use your ram as vram, to give you even more vram! (It works a little different but google it if you want to know more)

[@gradystephenson3346]

Why would u want 2 vram is way way faster and ecc enabled regular system memory is non ecc and is slower with higher latency all ur doing is slowing down ur cpu

[@Verpal]

In a sane world RTX 3060 12GB should have drop its price like 6600/6600XT, and it would have been a perfect entry GPU, with DLSS support and 12GB VRAM for longevity. But this world is insane, and RTX 3060 still hover above its MSRP, actually more expensive than the price I paid years ago.

[@quancena5772]

I got a new rx6600 for ~150$ because every other gpu is way too expensive now, for the price it’s amazing and can play most games on high 60fps

[@Sunlight91]

Just last year I upgraded from a 1070 to a 6700 XT. I'm good again on VRAM for the next few years.

[@mtaufiqnmtn]

Even if you have product review in the future, don't ever stop to make video about old hardware please!

[@insid3493]

My RX 580 8gb card is good enough to run everything at 1080p max settings at just around 60fps, however, It won't be long untill some games come out like Jedi survivor that would require me to drop some settings. I'm thinking of switching to a 5700XT soon, not sure if it's worth it or not

[@apcetojako8219]

It's not get 6700 xt 12gb vram or if u can afford 7800 xt 16gb u can run every game ultra 1440p

[@connivingkhajiit]

I had to upgrade to an RX 580 8GB for my desktop solely because my modded skyrim was built around my laptop with a 1060 6GB, and my HD 7950 with 3GB didnt stand a chance. For $70 it was a great buy.

[@AvroBellow]

It is difficult to be filled with despair when one has an RX 6800 XT with a frame buffer that has 16GB of GDDR6. Having said that, the best value out there for an 8GB card is either the Radeon RX 5700 XT, the Radeon RX 6600 or the Radeon RX 6600 XT. The huge advantage of the GTX 1080 Ti is the 11GB frame buffer. That's even more than the RTX 3080 and with its RX 5700 XT-like performance-level, it will be pretty long-lived when it comes to not being VRAM-crippled. I consider it to be the last TRULY GREAT video card that nVidia ever made.

[@ayuchanayuko]

I'm sad how the Sapphire RX570 ITX was only available in 4GB. Sadly, I have to stick with it until the next ITX card becomes affordable and not priced like an ex-Titan card.