9 Movie Heroes & Villains That Didn't Know Each Other Existed

[@Michelle-DiPalo]

For the Fifth Element, while Corbin didn't know of Zorg, Zorg did know of Corbin (albeit not exactly what Corbin was up to). He sent his one lackey as one of the many Corbin dupes to try to board the ship to Floston Paradise and then executed him when he was unable to get on board.

[@thehalcyonflight]

And you could argue Korbin does know OF Zorg, because earlier in the movie, Korbin was fired by him… but certainly not what he’s up to

[@357JohnM]

As soon as I saw the article I told my wife both of these things grogy813 and thehalcyonflight!!!! LOL. Guess some writers don't watch the movies close enough.....

[@nothingmusic42]

Corbin knew Zorg as the conglomerate that fired him, and Zorg knew Corbin as the winner of a sweepstakes with a ticket to where his lackey needed to go.

[@mattbrady5483]

He also sent the police to have him arrested on false charges.

[@SantomPh]

​@@thehalcyonflight Zorg owns the cab company, so it was really an autogenerated message firing him. The guy he sends looks nothing like Korben, which means Zorg didn't even bother to look him up. Ruby Rhod recognized him immediately

[@TheKeyser94]

The irony is that the only reason why Korben Dallas and Zorg never meet each other is by accident, not on purpose, because Bruce Willis and Gary Oldman had conflicting schedules they never could be in a scene at the same time.

[@jedi1josh]

They were in one scene but not together, it was a long uncut scene where Bruce leaves the room and Gary enters it immediately after through another door.

[@TheKeyser94]

@@jedi1josh Yeah, I known, but this are two cuts, one where Willis enter one room that goes to the hangar, and the second where Oldman enter the room, you need to watch the scene three or four time to notice the cut between the moment that Willis enter the room and Oldman come out from the other.

[@steamer2k319]

It's pretty impressive that they were able to write around this and still make a great movie.

[@jeremyadams932]

Before No Country for Old Men, the Coen brothers had already done this twice. Once in Blood Simple with Abby vs Visser and once in Fargo with Marge vs Carl. Strangely enough, both protagonists are played by Frances McDormand a.k.a. Mrs. Coen.

[@michaelvandeginste3497]

Abby: I'm not afraid of you, Ray! Visser:...well, when I see him... I'll be sure to give him the message!!!

[@baxterwilson368]

I don’t think Nedry intended for the dinosaurs to escape considering he was planning on going back to work after he dropped off the embryos.

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

I always thought John Hammond was the main antagonist, if you were smart enough not to blame the dinosaurs. I think WhatCulture saw a different movie?

[@brooksy362436]

But did anyone ever meet Pierce Bronson?

[@ler3434]

I missus doubtfire so.

[@themayhemofmadness7038]

Except that, even if they were the same person, Mort Rainey and John Shooter were aware of each other. And they had many conversations and confrontations, even if it was all in his mind. So really, they shouldn’t be on this list at all.

[@jafar_snaids6047]

Yeah, this one was a stretch and quite dumb, imo.

[@kelseyredford219]

I was going to say the same thing.

[@baronvg]

I’m convinced they INTENTIONALLY said Charles BROSNAN in order to get everyone to comment. So, well played!

[@Melsharpe95]

This is what happens when the people reading these lists have never seen the films they're talking about. Happens all the wime sadly.

[@danwarrjack]

@@Melsharpe95 Nah they do things wrong on purpose to generate comments to boost the algorithm. More comments = their video being shown to a broader audience. That’s why such blatant “mistakes” will be made in captions and narration

[@darahdoyle3176]

Charles Brosnan? Ah Pierces brother.

[@robertlie325]

The name is Charles Bronson not Brosnan

[@OmnicidalClown1992]

Do the duo of Frodo and San never meeting the likes of Sauron and Saruman count?

[@ultimedjsg8716]

No because Frodo has visions of Sauron, and I'm pretty sure Saruman is mentioned vaguely by Gandalf. And Sauron for sure knows about Frodo. So although they dont meet, they do know about each other

[@MostBronzeChunner]

Nedry wasn't the villain. Hammond was! He had two guys running ALL the IT at Jurassic Park and apparently he underpaid them for what is, essentially the most important job at that Park. If Hammond actually valued and paid Nedry, there wouldn't have been a problem.

[@Sacaen]

Javier is pronounced in Spanish, not French. The "r" is audible.

[@yodasears]

Nedry isn't the villain of Jurassic Park; Hammond is. Nedry is responding to Hammond's gross mismanagement, non-payment etc. Hammond, on the other hand, is a con artist, looking to exploit everyone around him. Nedry is the bullet, where Hammond is the gunman.

[@samuelwallace2782]

I don't remember if it was different in the book, but in the movie, Nedry is mad that he isn't being paid more than what he himself bid for the contract. So he puts people in danger, and justifies it by rationalizing himself as the victim. But he's still a villain. Hammond isn't a villain except as an embodiment of the dangers of rampant capitalism 🙄

[@VukaniMde]

I did not know that Pierce Brosnan's dad starred in Death Wish. Or that he even acted at all

[@brorjordas1979]

WhoTF is Charles Brosnan??! 😉🤣🤣

[@vincentmutel7313]

Thank you ! I was afraid something might be wrong with my hearing. 😊

[@joshuaisrael9397]

They purposely pronounce names wrong, to promote engagement. It's actually pretty annoying

[@RandomScreenAlias]

⁠@@joshuaisrael9397It’s deliberate? Now that’s really irritating.😐

[@baronvg]

@@joshuaisrael9397YES! I didn’t think it was an accident AT ALL lol

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

​@@joshuaisrael9397You dropped your tin foil hat.

[@alm2187]

By the same token that Captain Jack Sparrow is not the Curse of the Black Pearl protagonist, Mary Poppins is not the protagonist of her own movie. She does pretty much qualify as a heroine, but I'd say that's one film that lacks any definitive protagonist or antagonist.

[@liliaeth]

I'd say that if there is a hero or protagonist in the movie, it's either Mr Banks, or the kids. But I agree that Mary Poppins is not the protagonist. She's a force of nature (or magic) that changes the course of the main protagonist(s) lives, but she herself does not undergo any changes, or any real conflict. Her presence creates the situation for other characters to go through their story arcs, and develop as characters.

[@shanesawhutchison9255]

His name is Charles Bronson…not Brosnan. Hell of a thing messing up a legendary movie icon’s name like that. Cheers. 🇨🇦

[@karawardlaw4090]

Oh, it's absolutely intentional. They do it way too often for it to be accidental. They do it for the comments

[@pacman52280]

You forgot Shoot to Kill. Sidney Poitier was the main good guy, a FBI agent. Clancy Brown was the main villain. Sidney's character never sees Clancy's face throughout the whole movie, even at the end when he shoots him underwater in the eye. He does so after turning his face away.

[@alexmartin3143]

That.. doesn’t count. He knew exactly who he was…

[@pacman52280]

@@alexmartin3143, yes, but he never saw his face.

[@Chyronn]

@@pacman52280 Read the title of the video again

[@michaelvandeginste3497]

You could also make a case for "Mr. Brooks". While Earl Brooks and Detective Atwood do have a brief phone conversation at the end of the film, Atwood does not know who she's really talking to and presumably never learns Earl's true identity or catches him. Also, in "The Fog", Stevie Wayne never learns of Captain Blake (the other protagonists do, but not her). Finally, in "Blood Simple", Abby kills Visser after shooting him through a wall, but all the while she mistook him for her ex and knew nothing of Visser's existence.

[@dadabetic]

technically, Nedry had seen Dr Grant on the systems he was or was not paid enough to debug?

[@fakename2212]

Dennis Nedry is not the villain of Jurassic Park, John Hammond is. If Hammond hadn't insisted on continuing to pile more work than the job advertised onto one single underpaid disgruntled employee, (who in the book he literally blackmailed into working for him for free) the whole thing never would have happened that way.

[@4plus20isHappy]

Book Hammond and movie Hammond are very different. Spielberg said he saw a bit of himself in Hammond and changed him in the movie to be more sympathetic.

[@jakealter5504]

@@4plus20isHappyyou’re forgetting Dodgson, he was the one behind nedry

[@michaeljohnson6905]

A) We're talking movies, not the book B) Just because his actions are sympathetic, doesn't make Nedry any less the villain who set forth the resulting catastrophe

[@minohki]

@@michaeljohnson6905they mean that Hammond is more sympathetic in the movie. Not Nedry. Also you could use the same logic to say that Hammond’s refusal to pay Nedry led to Nedry s action so he’s still the villain in the movie.

[@johnrodgers8457]

​@@jakealter5504Dodgeson! Dodgeson! We got Dodgeson here. Nobody cares.

[@jaycondron1063]

The villan of jurassic Park is Hammond not nedry. Expenses were definitely spared

[@minohki]

I was coming to comment this too.

[@spiker.ortmann]

And he was told SEVERAL times NOT to bring the raptors to the island and let them in one of the 4 others he had... AND, he was covering the deaths of the 13 workers the raptors already killed by the time the movie begins... not to mention the rest of the things that Hammond's greed and incompetence caused in the book.

[@don63]

Charles Brosnan ???? Yeah, AI is going to end us......... 😂

[@BagofRicks]

Corbin worked for Zorg's cab company. You hear Zorg "fire one million" almost halfway into the movie.. Corbin knew Zorg existed

[@CosmicDuskWolf]

Jurassic Park I would argue didn't have much hero's or villain's. Just greedy people, people being people, and a few heroic people. I would argue that there are no hero's and villain's in Marry Poppins. The real villain in The 5th Element wasn't Zorg. Zorg was more of a underling.

[@ConradSpoke]

Charles Brosnan was my favorite Bond.

[@williamr1088]

The Greedy Lawyer on Jurassic Park is the real villain.

[@Terastas]

Is it really wise to say a hero and villain never met, then use footage from that movie of them talking face to face with each other? There are so many others you could have mentioned here. Turkish / Cousin Avi & Boris the Blade (Snatch) Ash Ketchum / Giovanni (Pokemon: The First Movie) Marlin / Philip Sherman & Darla (Finding Nemo)

[@WhatTheFirstAidSpray]

Nedry isn't "the villain" of Jurassic Park. It's more accurate to say John Hammond is the villain of the piece, because everything that goes wrong is a direct result of his decisions to cut corners to save of cost (despite his insistence that they spared no expense). Even Nedry was hired because John accepted his severely low bid on the project, when anyone in John's positions should a) have been suspicious of a lowball bid and b) should have had alarm bells going off when Nedry was continuing to complain about money issues. Anyone working in cutting edge fields knows the risks of corporate espionage and also knows that your biggest risk points are people who are liable to take bribes (people with money problems being top of the list). As to the rest- - John went for electric vehicles rather than fuel, stranding the visitors during a power failure - John allowed the raptors and other carnivores to be bred despite the danger they posed, when there was no conceivable reason to do so other than making money - John approved a cheaper enclosure process (electric fences) rather than a more expensive method (excavated pit / concrete walls) around the T-rex which are again vulnerable to power loss - John brought his GRANDCHILDREN to an unproven tourist attraction where the danger of risk to life from the attractions is a factor in an lawsuit against him Hammond is the real villain.

[@LednacekZ]

I agree. Alan is no way the Hero of that movie. That movie had no hero, just incompetence, greed, stupidity and survival despite the incompetence, greed or stupidity of the characters.

[@spiker.ortmann]

Is worse on the book, Hammond had 13 workers killed by the raptors and everyone was telling him that they shouldn't be in the island, less so the actual park... but he still brought them for money despite having 4 more islands where he could have left them...

[@WhatTheFirstAidSpray]

@@spiker.ortmann yeah but he also at least gets a nice karmic death at the hands of a pack of procompsagnathus, so swings and roundabouts. In the film he gets off scot-free. Well, company gets taken away come the sequel, but still.

[@spiker.ortmann]

@@WhatTheFirstAidSpray company isn't taken away, they just force him to retirement (which he says everyone is expecting because of his age), but he still has the money income and is connected with the people (they ignore him, since he can't fire them anymore, but that's aside the point) and even in the 4th and 5th movies they still say he and his family were connected to the company (not leading it, and Hammond died a few years prior, but still)... movieverse Hammond had it too good, he wasn't even properly investigated or billed. Meanwhile, in the books, the survivors where put under "house arrest" in Puerto Rico (I think, not sure which country was anymore) to prevent them talking or kill them if they did...

[@aaronreynolds1504]

Not only did Nedry Give the lowest bid. But Hammond kept adding to what he wanted Nedry to do, demanded he do them at no additional cost, threatened to call other clients of his to slander him, and threatened to tie him up in court for years, which is why Nedry was complaining about money and eventually gave into Dodgsons offer. Hammond was absolutely the bad guy. Nedry wasn't a good guy but he was a victim of Hammonds greed.

[@grantkruger3689]

You mean, apart from Mort Rainey "answering" the door to find John Shooter "accusing" him of stealing his story?

[@Garlarg]

4:57 Charles Brosnan? Really???? Shame on you.

[@l00k4tstuff]

WhatCulture has really good ideas for these videos. In my opinion what I think keeps them from being good enough for a Thumbs Up or Subscribe is the disconnect between the script and the video cuts. Using this video as an example: each movie discussed has a montage playing in the background. The description depicts specific scenes to make the point. However, the specific scene isn't shown in sync with the narration pointing it out. If the video editing was coordinated with the script then the point can be made however to say one thing and not show it defeats the purpose of this KZbin entry.

[@corinnekoladay4392]

I believe Mother Abigail and the Walking Dude never met in The Stand... I can't remember now if they actually knew of each other or not

[@williamshafer9110]

Never in reality. In a dream in the field of grain.

[@michaelvandeginste3497]

They definitely knew of each other's existence. They just never met face-to-face.

[@glennbabic5954]

Mary Poppins is about Mr Banks. He has the character arc. So he does indeed meet the villian

[@steamer2k319]

Nedry isn't the villain of Jurassic Park and Dr. Grant isn't the hero. Dr. Grant is the guide/narrator who explains the details for us as we go along. Nedry is just an opportunist who happens to trigger the inciting event. However, Hammond is essentially a corporatist Frankenstein. It's his hubris in standing on the shoulders of giants that makes a foul-up like Nedry's inevitable. The real hero is Dr. Malcolm who tries to warn Hammond about trying to wrangle primal forces that he's fundamentally incapable of understanding or controlling.

[@KIRAMH1023]

Omg was that Jeff Goldblum as one of the muggers in Death Wish?! Hilarious! I had no idea.

[@srstriker6420]

I thought this was Heroes and Villains that hardly know each other like say for example Spider-Man and Electro from Amazing Spider-Man 2, Batman and Penguin from Batman Returns, Taran and the Horned king from the Black Calderon and Aladdin and Jafar. Movie where the villain is defeated pretty early before the Third act and movies that have no villains like Fields of Dreams

[@alm2187]

While indeed Korben and Zorg never meet, the case that they are unaware of one another is highly inconclusive. Isn't Zorg too rich not to also be famous, and isn't it plausible that Korben viewed records of who authorized his termination? And couldn't Zorg, or someone who reports to him, have been listening to the radio when Korben was announced as a winner, and/or later been monitoring Ruby Rhod's show? AND, when one of Zorg's agents gets in on Korben's Spartacus moment, was he acting on orders or just improvising? Yea or nay? We can't really say either way.

[@ler3434]

I picture Zorg as a man too busy being at the top thinking he’s the god emperor king of all time to bother with one single fired cab driver. Even if the cabbie won the flotsan paradise prize.

[@spiker.ortmann]

Aware of their mutual existence as human beings, yes. Aware of their existence as enemy/rival/whatever word you want to use? No. Both know SOMEONE is acting purposely against their desires/mission/whatever, but neither knows WHO that SOMEONE is.

[@GioMarron]

5:02 Charles Bronson is in Deathwish, Pierce Brosnan wasn’t and Charles Brosnan doesn’t exist

[@ProudAnselmo]

A better example from the Coens is Blood Simple

[@Phoenixesper1]

Actually Billy does see the brain grimlin while watching the new york new york song near the end. Though brain is oblivious to billy and the rest.

[@filmbuff2777]

I think it is probable that Grant would have seen Nedry during the tour of the visitors center. We just didn't see them interact. In the book, Nedry is on the flight to the island, so they certainly did know each other in the book at least. The movie follows it fairly well, so I think it makes it more likely that at some point, they were made aware of each other.

[@AshleyPW]

Memento never made this list? WOW!

[@lukewright9031]

If you're going to mention _Secret Window_ you might as well add _Hide & Seek_ with Robert DeNiro

[@ConflictedSwitch]

But didn't Corbin Dallas work for Zorg Industries? I've worked for a lot of companies and, although I didn't meet the CEO of all of them, I was certainly aware that they all had a CEO or some lead person in charge.

[@Willy_Milano]

4:59 "Charles Brosnan" No, you idiots, it's Charles BRONSON.

[@FreeRangedPuppets]

How does The Secret Window even count? They knew each other! They had direct interactions. Sure they were technically the same person but they still knew who the other was. The only thing they didn’t know, until the end, was that they were both in the same head but that doesn’t count as not knowing of one another.

[@KaZuKan]

Alot of these seem like a stretch, just to make a video.

[@BD-or5yh]

You couldn’t think of another example to make the list a nice round 10?!

[@DonEBrooke32]

5:25 Jeff Goldblum?

[@PushThatMakesYaMove]

So just to make something clear: according to the video's title, all those detectives mentioned were investigating crimes, but somehow didn't know that culprits of their respective crimes _existed_?

[@samya1231]

Max and Immortan Joe from Mad Max Fury Road !

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

I was gonna go all Keyboard Warrior and throw a bitch fit about your Secret Window entry, but then I remembered that Tyler and The Narrator technically did "meet" in _Fight Club,_ so I'll let it slide.

[@jacklow9611]

The name "Javier" is pronounced with all the letters clearly sounded. You pronounced it in the French way, leaving off the 'r' at the end. As a Spanish name, it is pronounced "Hah'-vay-err", not "Hah-vee-ay". I'm kind of wondering though, what is the actual point of this video, and why is it really important. Anyone who saw any of these movies would be, at least partially aware of these facts.

[@tompadinho]

I think Nedry saw Grant on the TV monitors

[@NightHawke]

Everyone's got their knickers in a twist about Charles BROSNAN, but nobody else picked up that JEFF GOLDBLUM played a hoodlum in the original "Death Wish?!" Holy mindfucks, Batman! After seeing the original "Bedazzled," I cannot hear the name "Julie Andrews" without immediately hearing Peter Cooke's sing-song version: "Julie AN-droooooose!"

[@FlyingFox86]

Yeah, he played one of the thugs that rape the protagonist's daughter. The reason I remember it well is that they used a clip from this when it was wrongly announced on some TV show that Goldblum had died back in 2009. They thought he had died, and that's the clip they picked: him raping a girl in a very small role early in his career.

[@metalcorequeen]

I love Secret Window but its a really dumb choice for this video. 😂

[@jodysmoviesandshowschannel8698]

Fifth element should have been number 1.

[@Davofromdownunder65]

Charles Bronson not Charles Brosnan

[@mage1over137]

John Hammond was the true villain of Jurassic Park. The park was poorly engineered, that's why everything failed. Dennis caused it to happen earlier before it was full of people. Sure he did it for evil reasons, but you really should stress test you facilitate before putting the dinosaurs in the pens. Like maybe back up generators attached to each fence.

[@liliaeth]

Mary Poppins isn't actually the main character, let out the hero, of Mary Poppins though. She literally has no story arc in the entire movie, she's the exact same person she is at the end, that she is at the start. She's more like a force of nature (magic) that the actual main character, aka Mister Banks, has to deal with, that changes his life, his family's life and has him end up confronting the 'villain' once he learns to choose his family over his work.

[@Scrobbles]

Charles Brosnan, I ‘member him

[@RichardA.-yi5sz]

That's Charles Bronson, not "Brosnon."

[@ryanmiller8273]

They purposefully mispronounce names to get more comments. They've admitted to doing it.

[@the_lotharingian]

Heroes and villains who never met each other= the undead Obviously zombies BUT additionally Could vampires be demons controlling corpses?

[@phillipscheid4505]

Charles Brosnan? Smh

[@DavidGowers]

Charles...Brosnan??

[@neuroticmuffin8791]

Green?

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Keep up the good work 😊😊😊❤❤

[@StanHalen1936]

Keep up the spam work 😊😊😊❤❤

[@nicknoble9693]

And WhatCulture gets it glaringly wrong AGAIN! It's Charles BRONSON, not "Brosnan"! 🙄

[@Zed-fq3lj]

Excellent video!

[@tomstamford6837]

Charles Brosnan eh? But it was weird to see Jeff Oldplum as a punk, I've seen that film so many times and never noticed him until now. I don't believe it was a deliberate ploy to get comments... Channels like these just churn stuff out with no quality control or even knowledge of their subject.

[@brianvernon249]

What’s wrong about Charles Bronson? The Death wish movies are fantastic.

[@tomstamford6837]

@@brianvernon249 Nothing wrong with Bronson. The genius who made this video called him Brosnan! So much for knowing their subject.

[@janidlo]

This is unwatchable on the KZbin app as a commercial starts before each item on the list. I am all for you getting paid but this is excessive

[@aquabuddha]

Jen sounds like she's narrating with someone sitting on her torso, and I think about it every time I watch a video with her in it.

[@wolfhodgkinson6866]

So the top film I waited for is some obscure foreign film no one ever heard of. Thanks, that's 10 minutes I'll never get back.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

It's not obscure, it's among the most well known foreign films in the west.

[@Darapsa]

You didn't care about any of the other films on the list, just the number one? If so, you could have saved your time and skipped to the end.

[@RandomTChance]

No Country sucked... 🤢

[@rainbowslushy223]

i agree. it started off ok but then went noe where then just meandered to the end

[@michaelvandeginste3497]

I also did not like it. Just because a movie subverts expectations doesn't mean it's good.

[@dannykent6190]

It's a stretch to call either Nedry or "Brain Gremlin" villains.

[@Runescope]

Dawes Sr. Isn't the villain in Mary Poppins. Mr. Banks is the villain. He's blatantly the villain.

[@glennbabic5954]

Mr Banks is the hero of the story. It's about him, not Mary Poppins or the children. Watch the film Mr Banks

[@Runescope]

@@glennbabic5954Every villain is the hero of their own story. That doesn't change the fact that he's the villain of the original.

[@PedroOhPedro]

Why say 5th element is probably the best example... then put it at nu.ber 2?

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Because of that word "probably".

[@coreyhutton478]

Videos Like This ONLY Prove To Show That MOST People (Children In Adult's Bodies) Are Raised With MOVIE LOGIC and NOT Real World Experience and Knowledge. LOL!