10 Movies Where The Good Guy & Bad Guy BOTH Lose

[@isomeme]

When I saw this video's title, I started imagining the rant I'd leave in the comments if "The Seven Samurai" wasn't on your list. The ending of that movie just destroyed me. It made me cry the first time I saw it, and decades later, it can still put a lump in my throat. That ending is the distilled essence of tragedy.

[@brianartillery]

'A Simple Plan' is loosely based on a segment of 'The Canterbury Tales', by Geoffrey Chaucer. It's the segment known as 'The Pardoner's Tale', where three men find a horde of gold - proving that 'The love of money is the root of all evil', all three wind up dead.

[@SilverSpectre266]

Might be a stretch but Watchmen. The only real hero of the story, Rorschach, ends up dying, and the villain, Veidt, deploys his plan but it ends up failing in a twist that Rorschach had already mailed evidence of to a news outlet. So while the main villain did end up killing the hero and initiating their plan, it ultimately would come undone at some point.

[@kris242]

What about “Burn After Reading”? The ending legit summarizes how every single character failed and then says “So what did we learn here? …I don’t fuckin know either.”

[@DrNothing23]

A Simple Plan is sublime. Greatly under rated, indeed. Speaking of Films where everyone loses, you need to put Oliver Stone's U-Turn on the next one of these. Wow, talk about a grimly dark comedy fiasco... I believe he made that right after Natural Born Killers, as it definitely has a similar tonal and stylistic vibe. GREAT performances by Sean Penn, Billy Bob Thornton, Joaquín Phoenix, J-Lo, Nick Nolte, Jon Voight, Claire Danes, Powers Boothe......

[@NDTexan]

Leon the professional is another one

[@srstriker6420]

And the Northman as they both die

[@jamespope7669]

Leon wasn't the good guy, he was a hitman lol being the protagonist doesn't make you the hero of the movie.

[@deadhead8323]

He didn't really win in infernal affairs. If you see part 3 it shows the fallout of the whole ordeal. He's still under investigation his wife left him. And the guilt was making him go insane.

[@jamespope7669]

He won in part 1. You don't have to see part 3. Godfather Micheal won, then lost in part 3, Darth Vader won and lost in part 3

[@deadhead8323]

@jamespope7669 but if you see the ending he doesn't feel like he won. He feels completely lost and the flashback he remembers chan being kicked out of the academy it shows how he wished he could've taken another direction in life. Because now he's a murderer and a dishonorable cop.

[@beatrixdobson4795]

I think you kind of just proved that the Joker actually won in TDK

[@martinwestern3334]

The Joker didn't lose,he wanted to prove that you can drive someone to madness with one bad day which he proved when Harvey became Two-face and started killing people even going so far as to plan to kill Gordon's son if that's not crazy I don't know what is so the Joker won

[@jamespope7669]

Joker wasn't responsible for Harvey's criminal actions. All Joker gave Dent was a push.

[@travisstevens2432]

Not quite. The Joker wasn't out to prove that "someone" can be driven to madness with one bad day, he was out to show that "anyone" could be pushed to that point, and that's where he lost. Batman didn't turn, neither did a literal boatload of criminals. Joker only pushed one person past their limit. Just one. Everyone else in the film proved him wrong.

[@ChewieBabyTW]

Naw Seven. Whats in the BOOOOOX!!!? That was number one for sure. That messed anyone who saw it, minds right on up.

[@Xone9]

Not necessarily. John Doe got exactly what he wanted in the end, including his own death.

[@TheTlin82180]

John Woo’s the Killer

[@bheast86]

the good guys 'lose' in SEVEN SAMURAI (apart from the majority of them being killed) in that their way of life means they gain no advantage from their victory, while their employers are saved. It is rather difficult to work out who's a good guy in RAN - there are some - but pretty much everyone loses (the same goes with movies of the actual KING LEAR). Nobody really comes out well in the straight versions of CYRANO DE BERGERAC.

[@SinCity2100]

Donnie Yen's Killzone should be on the list too

[@fasttrack70]

I agree ohmss is the most under rated bond movie ever ruined by the argument of who the best bond was gets lost in what the best movie was

[@BlackFlash7]

I completely gave up on M. Knight after Glass

[@drumaticpageofmusic4148]

I thought for sure Oppenheimer would be on here

[@nicholasharvey1232]

Surprised that not a single Quentin Tarantino film is on this list. At least one of them ends with the entire cast dead (trying not to spoil anything).

[@justsaying14]

Stop being that hateful!

[@nicholasharvey1232]

@@justsaying14 There's the Seven Samurai, and then there's...

[@Hipp0campus_1]

Bold of you to assume that there are heroes or good guys in a Tarantino movie. (maybe in Jackie Brown)

[@Oroku_Sensei]

If I Saw the Devil isn't on this li.... oh. Well. I'll just shut up then.

[@HereForTheComments]

Who is SFX Magazine? Is that you guys?

[@adamwatson2914]

Well maybe sometimes you can win by losing

[@98nh3609]

I mean in fairness, Seven Samurai but more so the American remakes of the Magnificent seven series. There is definitely the case those who died won, the villiagers won and in the case of Magnificent seven Chico wins. Just not at all a traditional win

[@petra_kalbrain4426]

I can believe SE7EN isn’t on this list. 😳

[@bradleysteinert8957]

187 should have made this list

[@BlackHammer0891]

Bout time somebody said where The Departed came from

[@fredricclack7137]

Glass 🔚 Start ☘️

[@srstriker6420]

What about movies that the villain should have won like say Kang from Antman 3, the first order from the last Jedi and anyone else?

[@nathansmith8310]

I like it both good and bad have there chances at winning

[@bryanc1984]

The Prestige

[@jshy6969]

GREAT one

[@bryanc1984]

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[@jshy6969]

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[@bryanc1984]

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[@jshy6969]

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[@ShanaJahsintaWalters]

I don't like when the bad guy wins.

[@zengram]

It happens sometimes and in real life

[@srstriker6420]

And when is it that a villain should win?

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

It happens too often in real life....movies are supposed to be my escape from that. I agree with you

[@wuuudidit]

hot take

[@DJGamingSmash]

That's okay. I enjoy the subversion of a bad guy winning for once in a movie.

[@jvondd]

I thought The Godfather Part II was a shoe-in.

[@DBradar]

In SEVEN did the killer win?

[@bryanc1984]

Yes, he accomplished exactly what he set out to do.

[@ChewieBabyTW]

@@bryanc1984I mean they all lost something in the end of that one.

[@bryanc1984]

@@ChewieBabyTW Yeah, but dying was part of John Doe's plan.

[@marvelsProtege]

Was I the only one who was shocked that 007 died? I mean he has been shot poisoned tortured lost at sea and space been electricity you name it he has had it done to him and that killed him?

[@jamespope7669]

Yes. 007 was killed for diversity purposes.

[@marvelsProtege]

@@jamespope7669 smdh

[@Hipp0campus_1]

Old Boy.

[@mylsyl]

Where's gladiator?? Maximus and commodus die

[@Fkn_ducks]

Can I be pinned I was first

[@StanHalen1936]

Virgin

[@bheast86]

you pick SEVEN SAMURAI instead of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, but you should have picked INFERNAL AFFAIRS instead of the incredibly inferior THE DEPARTED

[@re1010]

Seven Samurai ends on a more dreadful note, that the Samurai find no resolve in their interpersonal conflict. while Magnificent Seven is more joyous. The survivors and fallen find glory in saving the day.

[@HereForTheComments]

Infernal Affairs has the villain win, this is a video about both sides losing.

[@bheast86]

Infernal Affairs baddy came out of the elevator to find a lot of police waiting for him@@HereForTheComments