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@billharm6006
@billharm6006 Ай бұрын
Unusual problem in that If I use PEMDAS I get 14, but if I just go left to right, I also get 14. Thus, the problem does not really determine whether a person understands PEMDAS. OOPS.
@Szejski
@Szejski Ай бұрын
IMHO the problem lies elsewhere: some people think that when operating according to PEMDAS, one first multiplies and only then divides.
@billharm6006
@billharm6006 Ай бұрын
@@Szejski True. Some fail to consider (MD) as a type and (AS) as a type with occurrences of a type being resolved "left to right" when they appear. Some do M in preference to D and A in preference to S regardless of order appearing, apparently because that is their order in PEMDAS (just one of several problems with interpretation and application of PEMDAS). That said, The problem shown gets the same answer if I strictly apply PEMDAS or if I strictly go left to right. The strict left to right format is not PEMDAS as preached. Thus, a person can get the right answer for the wrong reason. The problem fails as a test of PEMDAS knowledge. It will, however, trip up an M before D believer, so the problem sort of half-way works. I would not use it on a test.
@paulbrown8402
@paulbrown8402 Ай бұрын
Even more unusual, is that if you do the calculation backwards, you still get 14!!
@xobeijo
@xobeijo Ай бұрын
Not really. If you do multiplication first, you get: 7 + 7 ÷ 7 × 7 = 7 + 7 ÷ 49 = 7 + 1/7 = 1
@TheOtherKine
@TheOtherKine Ай бұрын
BODMAS
@johnhamilton2213
@johnhamilton2213 Ай бұрын
I've no idea where PEMDAS came from. I was taught BODMAS, and that's what I use.
@camgere
@camgere 27 күн бұрын
Bracket is pretty much the same as Parenthesis. Order is pretty much the same as Exponentials. You should come visit our universe on vacation.
@castleanthrax1833
@castleanthrax1833 24 күн бұрын
They both mean exactly the same thing. Not "pretty much" the same thing. Exactly the same thing.
@SuperSarah1954
@SuperSarah1954 Ай бұрын
Answer is 14 - and I'm 71 years old and still remember how to do this. Miss Stennent, my maths teacher back in 1967, would be so proud, Now ask me what I had for breakfast this morning ha ha! - .....nah, I can remember that too.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
I can't even remember when I learned this, it's been so long. But, given your age, it must have been 1966. I can't believe they didn't teach this till 9th grade. But, maybe.
@Kari-j1q
@Kari-j1q Ай бұрын
@@Quakeboy02 I taught the order of operations in grade 5.
@RodCalidge
@RodCalidge Ай бұрын
It's 14. The End.
@MrPrestonmale68
@MrPrestonmale68 28 күн бұрын
The end.....cause you're right. 😊
@NenadGajić-s3t
@NenadGajić-s3t 21 күн бұрын
It is not 14...It is 7: 49 plus 7. The result is 7,143
@ahsmeg4069
@ahsmeg4069 11 күн бұрын
#fail
@jimcorboy4869
@jimcorboy4869 Ай бұрын
Always amuses me to watch videos about math problems we did in like grade 2
@nfpnone8248
@nfpnone8248 Ай бұрын
Why would anyone get this problem wrong, much less 99%, and you don’t need order of operations or PEMDAS! This problem can be rewritten immediately as 7 + 7^2/7 = 7 + 7 = 14. Sorry I didn’t use your left to right or PEMDAS, which have no place in mathematics!
@joeisitt1904
@joeisitt1904 Ай бұрын
I thought that was called the PAWASE way, pissing about with a simple equation😂
@petestransit
@petestransit Ай бұрын
100%
@JohnLast-u8h
@JohnLast-u8h Ай бұрын
Even by doing it the WRONG way, you always get 14.
@xobeijo
@xobeijo Ай бұрын
Not really. If you do multiplication first, you get: 7 + 7 ÷ 7 × 7 = 7 + 7 ÷ 49 = 7 + 1/7 = 1
@xobeijo
@xobeijo Ай бұрын
@@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 No, because 7 1/7 implies a multiplication. 7 + 1/7 = 7/1 + 1/7 = 7/7 = 1
@xobeijo
@xobeijo Ай бұрын
@@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 No, because 7 1/7 implies a multiplication. 7 + 1/7 = 7/1 + 1/7 = 7/7 = 1
@thenuclearsandwich
@thenuclearsandwich Ай бұрын
@@xobeijo 7 plus 1/7 is not 1
@ronrice1931
@ronrice1931 Ай бұрын
@@JohnLast-u8h No, you don't. A change to the order in which the operations are performed does NOT mean a change in the direction in which they are evaluated. That is always left to right. (7÷7)×7=7; 7÷(7×7)=7/49 When you perform the multiplication first here, you do NOT then say: 49÷7=7
@smfvmd
@smfvmd Ай бұрын
In my UK schooldays we knew it as BODMAS. Brackets, Of, Divide, Multiply, Add, Subtract.
@ronrice1931
@ronrice1931 Ай бұрын
Brits, man. Always with the conTROversy. :)
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
Oh, this must have been that new math crap. We couldn't afford new anything when I was a kid.
@castleanthrax1833
@castleanthrax1833 24 күн бұрын
O = Orders.
@michaelannetts5714
@michaelannetts5714 14 күн бұрын
Use BODMAS it’s easier Brackets, Of or X, Division, Multiply, Addition, Subtract. Easy 🤔
@stratovani
@stratovani 15 күн бұрын
Easy enough to solve. Just work it from left to right. Seven plus seven equals fourteen, fourteen divided by seven equals two, and two times seven equals fourteen, which is the answer.
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m Ай бұрын
If MD in that order, then you’d do the rightmost calculation first. 7x7=49. Then the division: 7/49 = 1/7. Then the addition, with a final answer of 7 1/7
@critthought2866
@critthought2866 Ай бұрын
M and D are at the same level of operation, and therefore you use them in order left to right. The answer in the video is correct. You would get the same answer if you use the version in the UK: BODMAS (note that DM order here). Also, remember that division is just multiplying by the reciprocal, so division and multiplication are actually the same operation.
@michi9816
@michi9816 Ай бұрын
this is straight forward following the rules and for sure not a a task for the mathematical olympiad.
@nittneylion84
@nittneylion84 Ай бұрын
By the way, you can get 14 using different approaches: 1. + / x , 2. / x +…both get 14
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
7+7/7x7 = 7+(7/7x7) = 7+((7/7)x7) = 7+(1x7) = 14. There may be other ways to arrive at 14, but those other ways are wrong, and will fail with a different set of numbers, such as 1+2/3x4. OTOH, where the numbers are the same, i.e. N+N/NxN you will always get 2N as the answer.
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader Ай бұрын
There is a lesson here, but it is not a lesson for people who don't know the rule for order of operations. It is a lesson for people who write down these expressions. If 99% of people will fail to understand the expression you write, you should try another way. If you write 7+(7/7)/7, almost nobody will get it wrong.
@jaydee2072
@jaydee2072 Ай бұрын
Pretty much spot on. Math has symbols for a reason, leaving them out and expecting someone to just insert them is the real joke here
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 10 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. People like engineers, physicists, etc. would never write an expression like this. If proper notation were taught from the beginning, all this confusion would be avoided.
@angelagregory1042
@angelagregory1042 Ай бұрын
I got the answer 14 even before I started the video rolling
@DemocratsUnite
@DemocratsUnite Ай бұрын
Ever since high school, I’ve been waiting for an opportunity in life to use this. So far, no luck.
@Bigfoot-px9gj
@Bigfoot-px9gj Ай бұрын
I learned PEMDAS 50 plus years ago, and I agree... Except for silly math puzzles, I have never used it either.
@kellyandrews8161
@kellyandrews8161 28 күн бұрын
middle school
@susangratwick5327
@susangratwick5327 25 күн бұрын
14. BODMAS. Brackets, division, multiplication, subtraction. That magic order of operations remembered from 4th year of secondary school in England, but I do not know the logic behind or the reason for this order of operations. Does anybody here know?
@colinl9018
@colinl9018 29 күн бұрын
It's 14. PEMDAS is BS. I'm 66 years old and when I went to school this was called simple maths. It's still simple. I do not believe that 99% of people fail this test, it's just your way to get clicks. I won't come on to this site again.
@mv69969
@mv69969 11 күн бұрын
You would be surprised how many people are not able to solve it ! I asked some !
@jayvaccaro140
@jayvaccaro140 Ай бұрын
It's an exercise in "order of operation".
@richardcosta3504
@richardcosta3504 Ай бұрын
I’m glad this guy wasn’t my math teacher. There are two components to good teaching. Knowing the subject, which most math teachers possess. He has that. The ability to explain a problem’s solution clearly and without confusion. He doesn’t have that.
@bigdog3628
@bigdog3628 Ай бұрын
I partially agree. Yes for the two you mentioned in general teaching, but when it comes to mathematics there are an additional 4 requirements: 1:) Absolutely NO Multiple Choice Unless you are requiring full work to be shown 2:) All Unknown Variables that are being solved for MUST be verified with substitution. 3:) No partial credit whatsoever the answer is either 100% correct or 100% wrong. The first 2 might as well be written in stone, but the third one is a bit flexible I guess.
@johntorres4573
@johntorres4573 Ай бұрын
I didn’t follow the order,but still got 14
@mimon4884
@mimon4884 18 күн бұрын
The right answer is 7 1/7. Thank me later 😉. Greetings from The Netherlands.
@petestransit
@petestransit Ай бұрын
I looked, solved the equasion in seconds! and did not use your method!
@colinmccarthy7921
@colinmccarthy7921 Ай бұрын
You apply BODMAS.I learnt this at school in England.
@garyfestarini9608
@garyfestarini9608 Ай бұрын
My 7 year old grandson explained this perfectly.. Not sure what kind on Olympiad this is presented in.
@russellesimonetta9071
@russellesimonetta9071 Ай бұрын
I just did it step by step in my head and got 14.
@tonyorwin-nt6um
@tonyorwin-nt6um Ай бұрын
What!! I'm a thicko,but old school got 14 in about 10 seconds 😮 Hang on I've suddenly become a Mathsology Genius😂 No more labouring for me.👍🌟
@randyhanula1265
@randyhanula1265 Ай бұрын
Talk about taking the long way around to get to the end
@AmyraCarter
@AmyraCarter Ай бұрын
If one does multiply first, the result will be (8.14).round. Basically, it's what happens when one divides 7 by 49. 😆
@ronrice1931
@ronrice1931 Ай бұрын
In this particular case, the order doesn't matter. In most cases, it does.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
@@ronrice1931 Say what? 7+7/(7x7) is not 14. Order always matters, and it's always left to right.
@ronrice1931
@ronrice1931 Ай бұрын
@@Quakeboy02 You're right. I think several people here are thinking that 7÷(7×7) is equivalent to 49÷7, when in fact it equivalent to 7÷49. They switched not just the order of the operations but the order of the values as well.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 27 күн бұрын
@@ronrice1931 Anyone who still can't figure this out needs to turn all the divides into multiplications. By this, I mean convert 7/7 to 7*(1/7). It's usually the divides that cause people to screw it up, when it's not, it's because they don't understand precedence and just march from left to right calculating an intermediate result without regard to the operator. To those people, 7+7/7 would equal 2, i.e. (7+7)/7, instead of the actual value of 8, i.e. 7+(7/7).
@andrewellis1934
@andrewellis1934 Ай бұрын
These rules just over complicate a simple problem and make mistakes more likely.
@ahsmeg4069
@ahsmeg4069 11 күн бұрын
Which olympiad would this be from? The Tiddlywinks Olympiad? Because this is not a Math OIympiad question.
@massacmongo995
@massacmongo995 Ай бұрын
The person who struggles with math sees this and just says screw it
@manuelquitevis6794
@manuelquitevis6794 17 күн бұрын
7 + 7 :7 x 7 .= 7 + 1 x 7 =7 + 7 = 14
@thomasharding1838
@thomasharding1838 Ай бұрын
The problem should NOT have been presented in a manner that could be performed in an incorrect manne but still obtain the correct answer. Maybe throw an 8 in there somewhere.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
Presenting it this way made it clear that the answer was going to be wrong if you used the wrong precedence regardless of the numbers.
@ArtinYeghyaian
@ArtinYeghyaian Ай бұрын
Primero, se separan términos. El signo de +, muestra que hay dos términos ( los signos de + (y) - separan términos, los de x (y) : , unen términos. a) Primer término es 7. b) El segundo es : 7 : 7 x 7 ...... (7:7 = 1......1 x 7 = 7 c) 7 + 7 = 14 No es ni necesaria dar esta explicación.
@iceman9678
@iceman9678 Ай бұрын
I guess factoring out the 7 was not necessary.
@KW-gb9cd
@KW-gb9cd 16 күн бұрын
7 + 7 × 1/7 × 7 = 7 + 7 = 14.
@johnshaw6702
@johnshaw6702 27 күн бұрын
Bad example. But I find it sad that so many channels have to explain basic math to people.
@SebastianSkowronek-rp8zv
@SebastianSkowronek-rp8zv 2 ай бұрын
Is this a joke? 2nd grade math is an olympic question?
@umamaheswari4625
@umamaheswari4625 2 ай бұрын
14
@davidwebster9788
@davidwebster9788 Ай бұрын
Is PEMDAS always used on test (SAT, GRE, etc).
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
It's always used by your calculator and your computer, so what do you think? There is only one way to do math and get the right answer.
@davidwebster9788
@davidwebster9788 Ай бұрын
@@Quakeboy02 Yes, I know that. But if one test uses PEMDAS and another PEJMDAS, then you need know as they can give results.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
@@davidwebster9788 I don't know PEMDAS from PEJMDAS. What I know is the calculator and the computer. Additions and subtractions are not in the same grouping as multiplications and divisions. So you have to group the mul/div together which turns them into single entities which can be added or subtracted. Can I assume that PEJMDAS is the HP version (RPN) of PEMDAS for their calculators?
@davidwebster9788
@davidwebster9788 Ай бұрын
@@Quakeboy02 PEJMDAS give implicit multiplication a higher order of precedence. My point, though, was that people who create standardized exams should state which convention they are using.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
@@davidwebster9788 Once again, what does your calculator say?
@RobertCanova-sn4sh
@RobertCanova-sn4sh 18 күн бұрын
It's not a "tricky " problem. It is poorly written. Of no use to snyone.
@TKM1951
@TKM1951 Ай бұрын
14 - no kidding
@hangthuy458
@hangthuy458 Ай бұрын
7+1×7=7+7=14
@michaellong-i9r
@michaellong-i9r Ай бұрын
off the top of mead 36 . 1
@megconnell823
@megconnell823 Ай бұрын
So what about BODMAS.
@freedomjunkie7843
@freedomjunkie7843 Ай бұрын
Yup. Grew up on BODMAS, never did me any harm :)
@Jmax-v3k
@Jmax-v3k Ай бұрын
6 to 1, half a dozen plus 1 to most
@Smf7161
@Smf7161 Ай бұрын
14 is the answer!
@michaelcoulter3696
@michaelcoulter3696 Ай бұрын
Why is it hard to work out 14 as answer?
@edwardenglish6919
@edwardenglish6919 Ай бұрын
2 seconds
@arthurmabeejr8752
@arthurmabeejr8752 28 күн бұрын
The "pemdas" works well and I see some commenting by saying by doing the problem incorrectly they still come up with 14??? I say bologna and hogwash, I think the author of the video will agree with me? When I was in high school in my junior year my math teacher had me teaching her class but, by then I already had and passed with flying colors algebra, trigonometry ect., She said my shortcuts were not taught to her when she majored in Mathematics in college. There are shortcut formulas that will still give you 14 but, never heard of someone doing the problem incorrectly come up with 14???? The "pemdas" as I said works well but, how can someone insult my intelligence? This is what's wrong with the world today........You can help a lot of things but, you can't fix stupid!
@VincentQuinn-ru9jf
@VincentQuinn-ru9jf 12 күн бұрын
14 IAM 85year
@dougmorris5625
@dougmorris5625 Ай бұрын
I get 14
@lifblackberry
@lifblackberry 21 күн бұрын
Why 2 minuttes. 5 seconds
@RonJones-k7r
@RonJones-k7r 24 күн бұрын
49
@DennisHughes-h8b
@DennisHughes-h8b Ай бұрын
49.
@ronaldmcdonald8303
@ronaldmcdonald8303 Ай бұрын
14, easy
@tellecegraham3207
@tellecegraham3207 Ай бұрын
My answer is 14
@DennisHughes-h8b
@DennisHughes-h8b Ай бұрын
56
@michaelmelton7295
@michaelmelton7295 Ай бұрын
Acromem?
@manuelquitevis6794
@manuelquitevis6794 Ай бұрын
7 + 7 = 14
@richb1576
@richb1576 Ай бұрын
2 X 7 = 14
@Stevespecs
@Stevespecs 29 күн бұрын
2 seconds, 14
@nicatare2257
@nicatare2257 Ай бұрын
7+7=14 14
@tapejara1507
@tapejara1507 Ай бұрын
7+1/7
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 Ай бұрын
Try it on your calculator and see what that says.
@phatmanc7078
@phatmanc7078 Ай бұрын
Can you Americans not do maths in your head that's shocking
@michaelmelton7295
@michaelmelton7295 Ай бұрын
Could you enunciat your words better?
@cryptocoinkiwi8272
@cryptocoinkiwi8272 Ай бұрын
Facepalm...
@valuemastery
@valuemastery Ай бұрын
99% fail is nothig more than clickbait. This calculation is laughably easy, it's for absolute beginners in math that have just learned the order of operation. BTW, the result is 14. Where is the statistics that shows the 99%, so that it can be verified? It's just a dumb claim.
@Quakeboy02
@Quakeboy02 27 күн бұрын
And yet, I've been chastised by no less than engineers who say they don't use this rubbish. How they can remain gainfully employed if they can't do basic math is a real mystery to me.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 10 күн бұрын
@@Quakeboy02 Engineers, physicists, etc. would use proper notation that is not ambiguous. I'm an old, has-been physicist and had never heard of PEMDAS or whatever until I found it on the interweb a year or so ago.
@hc3657
@hc3657 Ай бұрын
Solve 7 + 7 divided by 7 x 7 Note there are no brackets to separate the numbers only the division sign which signifies this equation is an algebraic equation for a fraction. 7 +7 = 14 which is the numerator in this fraction divide by 7 x 7 = 49 which is the denominator in this fraction Answer is 14 / 49 = 2/7. or where A = 7 7 + 7 = A +A = 2A and 7 x 7 = A x A = 2A divided by A x A = 2/A = 2/7 Algebra is fun when you know what it is. OR if you have used brackets in your equation which this equation does NOT have. 7 + (7/7) x 7 = 7 + 1 x 7 = 7 + 7 = 14 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪💪💪💪💪💪💪
@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388
@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 Ай бұрын
Even without brackets, the answer is fourteen, because addition is done last. In this sum, division is done first, then multiplication, then addition.
@hc3657
@hc3657 Ай бұрын
@@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 No because the division sign makes it a fraction where the 7+7 is the numerator is separated from the rest of the equation the denominator being 7 x 7. which equals 1. Without the brackets everything to the left of a division sign is a numerator and everything to the right is the denominator. Always solve the denominator first. It is basic algebra. You are doing a linear process as used in basic calculators which can not do Algebraic equations. Brackets were created for a reason. How about this ? Wrong of course. 7 + 7/7x7 = 7 + 7/49 = 7 + 1/7 ? I was an engineer experienced in high order mathematics writing computer programs. Suggest you do some revision in fractions and Algebra. Quadratic equations and such. 💪💪
@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388
@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 Ай бұрын
@@hc3657 The division doesn't make it a fraction. If you were to use Bodmas (or Pedmas or whichever you use), you would know division comes first in this sum comes first, then multiplication, then addition. Either you didn't know this, didn't understand it or have forgotten it, so I'd say you're the one who needs to do some revision, especially if you have experience in high order mathematics as you claim. Who said anything about basic calculators? Ones programmed to use Bodmas are better, and these ones give 14 as the answer. Where you get fractions from, I don't know, as there are no fractions in this sum.
@sibermansgames2110
@sibermansgames2110 Ай бұрын
Answer is 14. Brackets aren't needed, you simply use BODMAS, which states that division and multiplication are done before addition. So 7÷7=1. 1×7=7. 7+7=14.
@SamTether
@SamTether Ай бұрын
Definitely 14. Don't know why you're bringing fractions into this when there aren't any to begin with.
@iwillsaythisonlyonce
@iwillsaythisonlyonce 28 күн бұрын
56
@ainthshifana8296
@ainthshifana8296 Ай бұрын
14
@michaelcarroll172
@michaelcarroll172 Ай бұрын
14
@mikemassey7403
@mikemassey7403 Ай бұрын
14
@michaelpfister1283
@michaelpfister1283 Ай бұрын
14
@marktahriri6581
@marktahriri6581 Ай бұрын
14
@DavidChadderton-g7d
@DavidChadderton-g7d Ай бұрын
14
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
14
@thomfisher1100
@thomfisher1100 Ай бұрын
14
@michaelvessels9668
@michaelvessels9668 Ай бұрын
14
@ljupkaivanovska1275
@ljupkaivanovska1275 Ай бұрын
14
@billhawkesworth990
@billhawkesworth990 Ай бұрын
14
@396Cap
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14
@heritageofhastur
@heritageofhastur Ай бұрын
14
@kathleeno1441
@kathleeno1441 Ай бұрын
14
@dipankardasgupta5125
@dipankardasgupta5125 29 күн бұрын
14
@kellyandrews8161
@kellyandrews8161 28 күн бұрын
14
@Nance54
@Nance54 27 күн бұрын
14
@JoycieMbaya
@JoycieMbaya 24 күн бұрын
14
@Arden-o1i
@Arden-o1i 19 күн бұрын
14
@billhawkesworth990
@billhawkesworth990 17 күн бұрын
14
@PryceMortensen
@PryceMortensen 6 күн бұрын
14
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