9mm Underwood Xtreme Defender (68gr +P VS 90gr +P) Ballistics Gel Test

[@davidh7078]

Thank you again for doing this for me, Ronnie. Great test as always and very informative. I'm very surprised at the amount of penetration. A bit more than i feel comfortable carrying.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@davidh7078 No thank you🫵!! You are the one that made it happen. Can't thank you enough for all ur help and being such a huge supporter of the channel, really means a lot!! I was very surprised and impressed on how this +p version performed.. but absolutely agree with there being to much penetration. Was pretty loud too. Couldn't imagine without ears on😬. Thank you again my friend!!🍻

[@rogerwood5228]

Solid test. Both are these are in my carry arms. I mostly carry the 68gr +P in my 509c.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@rogerwood5228 Thank you sir!! Great choice for sure, I was pretty impressed with that 68gr. Bet that 509 is a great shooter. Thanks again!!🍻

[@rogerwood5228]

@AzAirgunner. yes sir, the 509 is a great shooter. I had to dry fire it for a month to get the new trigger grit out of it, but it's been great ever since.

[@heavycoughin6665]

I got the 68 +P and it's awesome that the POI is the same as my 115 target rounds. No need to change zero or holds. Checked at 25yards, was dead on for my zero with 115 blazers and PMC bronze 9mm.

[@JosephJones.357sig]

My EDC is .357sig in a g31. But i shoot a lot of 9mm at the range out of my g17. I like to practice with the same size gun, with the same trigger and sights as my main carry tool, just cheaper with the 9mm at the range. And you're right, someone was having fun with some full auto. Thanks for another great test, you always deliver with great information and very entertaining videos. Hope you have a wonderful day my friend.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@JosephJones.357sig Thank you very much my friend, always appreciate ya checkin it!! Hope u have a great day as well, take care.🍻.

[@Eric-w1f6f]

I also use a G31 for my EDC, except I slip in a 9mm conversion barrel for practice. I originally used the G31 mags with zero issues, but I’ve since bought G17 mags to practice with.

[@richki.24]

Yay for more tests !!!!!

[@yomomma107]

SMOKIN' 💥💥💥

[@ninjadave1970]

I like reading other people's comments! There's alot of great ones here, a great comments community 👍

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@ninjadave1970 Absolutely agree, love when y'all leave a comment. Great comment community for sure, usually very positive. Appreciate u guys very much!!🍻

[@عباسالشرع-ذ8ر]

Thank you so much this is ammo is very great for my compact ccw ❤❤❤

[@GreyShooter]

Great test, AZ. I really enjoy your work. Thanks. 👊👍👍👍🇺🇸

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@GreyShooter Thank you brother means a lot!! I have to much fun out there😁.. Appreciate ya!!🍻

[@michaelkaczor4206]

Great video. Crazy penetration for such light bullets but that’s what they are designed for. Sound pretty loud too especially the lighter one. Thanks for the video please keep em comin.. and yes someone was definitely having them some fun with rapid 🔥 😂😂😂

[@angrysheepdog9744]

The 90gr always seems to track straight, penetrate deeper while producing the same disruption as the 68gr. Use all the ++ if you ask me.

[@Wifimoneyss]

Thanks cause I couldn’t tell which was better😂

[@angrysheepdog9744]

Ahh sarcasm 🥴

[@Wifimoneyss]

@@angrysheepdog9744 no actually they both do have a pretty similar path but the 90gr barrier blindness just gives it that extra edge

[@angrysheepdog9744]

@@Wifimoneyss Close. They both are barrier blind which is why they are a good choice. The 68gr bore to length ratio makes it unstable which is why tends to veer off. 90gr is the sweet spot between velocity, stability and momentum.

[@Wifimoneyss]

@ so is it better with a longer barrel and not just in the sub compact

[@TransformersHoarder]

YES! Let’s Go!

[@Texas2Step79]

Man those Caniks look like a best kept secret I'm gonna go look at those..may bring one home..

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@Texas2Step79 They're actually pretty nice, no issues either.. runs like a champ.. ohh and great trigger. Just a lil encouragement lol.🍻

[@Bob.W.]

Thanks. That Mete always looks bigger than a 3.2 inch nine. I wonder how these bullets actually do in flesh. Maybe in a meat target.

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

Lehigh's channeled flute design works fantastically in living targets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaqVaYWlbculb6ssi=Img-L_WLbZU2Oc1o

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

Lehigh's channeled flute design works fantastically in living targets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaqVaYWlbculb6ssi=Img-L_WLbZU2Oc1o

[@kennethferguson4283]

Not 357 Sig performance but OK in a pinch.

[@hvymax]

They're going 2,000+fps from my 357sig.

[@DIYDad1]

Sounds like someone is having fun with machine guns in the background lol, good test again, my carry right now is the 90gr+p,amd I know they make a +p+ version too I can't imagine the extra velocity is really necessary or not these things are already cookin pretty quick. Have you tested these in 40 or 357 sig yet?

[@Jrob10mm]

That 68gr is in my inox Ltt 92fs The 90gr is in my Ltt Px4 👍

[@eatherkat4798]

Do you have any 9mm new bullets made by them? I cant find ballistics for them anywhere, its the Sierra bullets…ive heard sierra projectiles suck and i want to know if i should get my money back…please let me know

[@angrysheepdog9744]

It's so hard to choose between good hollow points and fluted copper, especially when these rounds are truly barrier blind and perform 100% of the time.

[@jackf3619]

I’m carrying these rounds all the way. If a hollow point hits any metal barrier it completely turns into an FMJ bullet and WAY overpentrates 30+ inches. They are not safe at all for that reason. These pack the same punch as a hollow point but are barrier blind and won’t overpenetrate like the hollow points do after hitting metal barriers. They are also better at going through body armor.

[@hvymax]

I've found the 90gr to be far more accurate in most of my guns.

[@AngelAlvarez-z2p]

I wonder if these rounds will work against bears. Hiking the mountains of Sierra Vista Az and I had seen them. And I ain’t humping a rifle or shotgun. BTW, my carry gun is a P365.

[@Baddmnkey1]

You would want to go with the Extreme Penetrator and not the Extreme Defender round.

[@taskforce505]

Most likely, I’m in NM and we only get black Bears as-well. They usally are scared of us, I’d be more afraid of mountain lions though TBH. But you probably wouldn’t even see it coming, but 68gr +p 9mm is perfect for lions they rarely get to 150lbs+ In our parts. But for black bears I’d go with the 90gr. Velocity for muscle, grains for fat. I’d avoid the penetrator rounds, because all they are going to do is poke skinny holes.

[@AngelAlvarez-z2p]

@@Baddmnkey1thanks. Boxes of ammo came in!, I’ll test it.

[@AngelAlvarez-z2p]

@@taskforce505We have big cats here in Az. For a while was Coyote attacks. Even wild donkeys. A DOD police vehicle was rammed by a ram!.😂

[@taskforce505]

@@AngelAlvarez-z2p Dang 😂😭, The coyotes be up to no good here as-well! But honestly I’d go with the 90gr. The only thing that it won’t have you covered for there, is the rare chance of a jaguar 🐆, that are sometimes sighted in our southern parts of our states 😂😭!

[@unitfour3097]

I really like the new 15rd magazine with the improved extension that Canik makes for the MC9 now. Yes, less concealable, but a much better purchase on the firearm. Thanks for the testing.

[@dylanunderpar]

Great video as always I just laugh when I see these light and fast rounds work so hard to be a standard 40 s&w

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@dylanunderpar Thank you I appreciate ya!!

[@Bob.W.]

.40 S&W is pretty close to the perfect caliber. No, not 10mm. 😂 It's .41 mag. I really like all the 40s.

[@lynch6642]

They have spent millions on the 9mm specialty ammo trying to perform just as good as the 40. And the 45 for that matter, I've been around and seen a lot of stuff and the 9mm when it came out was so underperforming, you would hear about criminals taking 5 and 10 rounds and keep coming.. and you still see videos on cops mag dumping criminals.. the 40 was designed exactly what it did, hold more rounds and more power than the 45 and more knockdown than the 9mm... I can even remember in the early 2000s, some gun ranges wouldn't even allow you to shoot 9mm or under because of the lack of power... I'll tell you they just brought it back for cost savings...

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

And then the 357 Sig enters the room and puts both the 9 and the 40 to shame.

[@dylanunderpar]

@ yes, but I can shoot 3 40’s or 6 9’s for the cost of one or two 357’s, lol. Honestly I believe we will have a resurgence of the 40/357 sig & further growth of the 10mm..9mm palooza has to come to an end sometime

[@garrettschienschang7898]

How do these work when you pull them then reload them in a 350 legend?

[@wes326]

2600-3000 fps.

[@anonymousf454]

Great work as always brother. I am trying to decide on a 7 shot 357 magnum vs a 5 shot 41 magnum. Both guns are approximately same size snd weight, and both have a 4 inch barrel. With all of your testing, which one would you chose...also im a reloader so ammo availableity is not a factor. Just need one good bullet for either and im good.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@anonymousf454 Thank you very much I appreciate that!! .41 Mag all day.. I do really like 357 mag but there's just something about the 41. Also if ur rollin ur own, u can up/down load in any situation needed. Hope that helps. Thanks again!!🍻

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

what is the intended purpose of the gun? how can AZ know that when you didn't say?

[@anonymousf454]

@bobjones-bt9bh It would be an all purpose firearm. Self defense, Wilderness emergency survival, Hunting type of firearm.

[@anonymousf454]

@AzAirgunner. I would love to see what that 41 would do to that gel block if loaded with something light like a 150 grain bullet

[@rangetime6779]

I believe tumbling is achieving the gel damage and not the flutes. The sectional density is low and their susceptible to tumbling which has a nondeterministic travel path. Thanks for the testing. Those velocities re crazy.

[@BillHimmel]

Two - "Enough overpenetration to kill loved ones, neighbours and innocent bystanders!"- rounds! Hard pass for me! Thx a lot for the testing!

[@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS]

The kinetic transfer occurs within the first 11 inches of gelatin - hence why all of the cavitational damage is confined to the first block. By the time the rounds make it into the remaining 10 inches of gel, they've dissipated too much kinetic energy to kill anything else. Not to mention, this is bare gelatin with a T-shirt in front of it. No bones, organs muscle, ect.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@BillHimmel Thank you🫵 for watching, appreciate ya!!🍻

[@BillHimmel]

@ 🙏Keep it up!

[@Ali-ym8ny]

Very good Thank you sir

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@Ali-ym8ny Thank you🫵buddy!!