Pro tip: in most houses in the United States, walls are concealment, not cover B)
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Yes agree with that. In Poland on the other hand they are from bricks, or other concrete type of materials. Very rarely from drywall and wood.
@Jor-El-Earth1Ай бұрын
Came here to say this. If it's your home, you'll know what the construction material is. What I've seen overseas (I'm in the USA) is most are concrete or brick. Here in the USA it would be rare to see interior walls being anything but wood and drywall. Most pistols will zip right on through. With a rifle, you'd hit your neighbor nextdoor.
@gundarvarr1024Ай бұрын
that's why us houses is stupid.
@rmnleyАй бұрын
@@gundarvarr1024 Because they're not designed for combat?
@gundarvarr1024Ай бұрын
@@rmnley not for combat while 52% of US house got a gun?
@Pesquisando0b10112 ай бұрын
This is great. Most weapon channels only talk about shooting techniques, but very rare to talk about tactics. Very good job.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Thank you. We aim to produce more tests and see what actually may work, and what is the waste of time.
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
That's because tactics are very dynamic and situational, that it's almost impossible to train. You can spend your entire life training to work around corners/walls, but the only gunfight you get in (if you ever do) will be between two cars. There's nothing wrong with tactics, it's important to gloss over them as thought experiments (that's why I am here), but shooting techniques are the most important because those are actual hard skills that can be transferred to any situation.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Training shooting techniques it's very important too, great for accuracy, and speed on the flat range. Gunfights however it's a completely different thing where more aspects such as your experience, previous scenario training, mental strength, ability to work under stress, fast decision making, tactics, and environment can play a crucial role.
@Pesquisando0b1011Ай бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland It's hard to find good courses about these topics.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
I know, if you are in Europe, you may try to visit us.
@gunplaytv2 ай бұрын
Everyone knows a slide cancel into dolphin dive is the best way to handle this scenario!
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Too old for that combo:) I'd break my spine if I did that:)
@plantsonfire2 ай бұрын
Duh
@tylerleavitt2715Ай бұрын
Silent full length slow motion horizontal leap 😂
@genin69Ай бұрын
right after doing a wall hack to see the bad guy
@user-oy9zy4ds9mАй бұрын
I discovered ‘pre-firing’ back in the days of playing the original call of duty games 15 years or so ago. That’s where with a full auto weapon you begin firing into the suspected corner just before you enter, if done perfectly it would leave almost zero time for them to react and would die instantly lol. It became so effective and infamous the players hiding in corners would hate on you and call you a cheater lol
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
I'm glad you did the blind fire technique, I didn't think anyone would try it out because of the naysayers who would say you need to confirm, obviously this would be done if you knew for a fact the guy was alone and holding that corner. If one suspected on site civilians, hostages or family members as a possibility, then you simply wouldn't do it.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Correct. We showed this option, as it's a safe option once we have met the condition you mention in your comment. This technique is used often to clear the trenches, and buildings on the battlefield, where you do not expect any friendlies.
@jonkoxl2069Ай бұрын
@@UrbanDefenseSystems collateral damage
@nickloven6728Ай бұрын
Ive seen this done with alot of sim munitions training, I can imagine live fire being even more effective.
@kevinm8865Ай бұрын
My comments are in the context of home defense. Since you used the #HomeDefense tag, I would recommend against blind firing in nearly every situation. You are responsible for every bullet, and if your stray ends up on another structure (especially if it hits someone else), you may be effed. Don't blind fire. You don't know what you're shooting at ... could be a 20lb propane cylinder there ...
@waefawawrgaw283524 күн бұрын
baahahhaah dont act like the military suddenly cares about civilians. Should I bring up war crimes? Or rpes?
@rogeliorodriguez8518Ай бұрын
“Pro tip, hit the breaker then say “Bravo Dad going dark” then put the night vision goggles on.” - Sun Tzu Art of CQC
@Joshy1313Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@OkieDokieSmokieАй бұрын
“Hold on, let me get naked first!” will definitely strike some fear into them
@miketucker28172 ай бұрын
Thorough demonstration. Only positive criticism, maybe use lapel mics because the room echos, and label each attempt for future reference.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
I agree with the sound. It could be better. We are not experts in recordings and sound, but for sure will definitely try to improve it in the future.
@hardcodedsoftware4212Ай бұрын
@@bzacademy-polandEven cheap Bluetooth wireless lapel mics would be better
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
The funny thing is we had them with us, and they were on during the recording on other videos about CQB earlier that day. Not sure why we did not put them on for this video. I can only apologies.
@miguelnascimento28473 күн бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland it's still clear what you all were saying so no big deal but yeah, having a mic closer to each person would increase the volume of your voices in relation to the reverberation from the room making the sound clearer. Awsome video btw!
@Fer-De-LanceАй бұрын
I like how after each scenario, you said in this case. A lot is situationally dependent.
@shilombabaАй бұрын
Well, the situational dependency is quite situationally dependent to be fair.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Correct. We understand, that the fact that I succeeded in one case does not mean that I take it for granted, and when I use it for the second time I'll be also successful. Too many variables, each situation is different and may produce different outcomes.
@KaptifLaDistillerieАй бұрын
It's a gamble with bad odds in the end as the one " defending " always has the advantage if he knows you're coming, my first thought seeing the thumbnail was that the guy defending the corner would be the most likely to use the elevation change to throw off your attack, and you can't just go paper rock scissor on every corner. Best thing to do imo is to get in cover where you have a good view on the exits, then it's a waiting game until the intruder decides to gtfo because he's stuck
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Yes, it's a gamble, and the results are unpredictable. However, we believe that training and testing help bring the odds in your favour. In the scenario you are talking about, I see two skilled guys fighting for the corner. We assume that the skilled guy clears the corner, and a regular perpetrator who invaded your house hides in the corner. I don't think that they have trained much in this subject. Getting into the cover and waiting is the best thing to do, and we talk about it at the very beginning of the video, but if we do that there would be a very boring video to watch. Stay safe.
@jimbo966126 күн бұрын
This is a worthy skill to master, what if I have to move to save a family members
@DennisMski2 ай бұрын
What about the slow-motion diving technique? This works best with guns akimbo.
@tylerleavitt2715Ай бұрын
Great minds think alike.
@DrDeFordАй бұрын
You have to take advantage of the s by combat rolling into the room!
@Shonuff42 ай бұрын
Yes, all fights/battles are determined by the manipulation of speed, surprise, & ferocity. By coming in low you know in advance to shoot high .. while the other person is still focused on shooting high which gives you an advantage. Or even throwing something to distract them.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Agree on that. Good point.
@LokarMLGgamer69420Ай бұрын
Actually wiped a team on R6 siege by using this very philosophy, I was defender on the airplane map, they were breaching, I popped a smoke and went prone inside it, they all walked right over into my spiderweb and I knifed their legs.
@fromthesticks2027Ай бұрын
Had I read more than the first few comments before I wrote I'd have seen your response. Yes, the gist of my response, completely.
@bananainacup2 ай бұрын
If you’re in your home you should be the one setting up the ambush
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Maybe
@rabidskylark20652 ай бұрын
The scenario I see is: You are coming home from work or something, your family is already home, and you see that your home was broken into and so you have to get into there to save your family.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
@@rabidskylark2065 It is one of the many possible scenarios, sure. In this video, we focused more on the technical, and tactical aspects of this specific situation - I got him cornered, he knows I'm coming, I have to go through that room.
@rabidskylark20652 ай бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland Yeah, I know. I was just trying to show the commenter that it's not always possible to set up an ambush depending on the circumstances.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
@@rabidskylark2065 Correct
@pleasurewasmine317329 күн бұрын
yes, i always come home in full tac gear after getting the groceries. preparation is the best of both the offense and defense
@bzacademy-poland28 күн бұрын
You forgot about the grenades, like many of the people suggest here:)lol
@wooden2621Ай бұрын
Interesting video. Fun to see how some of these principals apply to tac-shooters like Counter Strike or Valorant: For example, in the first scenario of slicing the pie, in game we have a term called "angle disadvantage", in which whoever is closer to the angle will be visible to the opponent first, thus increasing the odds of losing the fight. For this reason, you dont slow peek/slice the pie of angles in which the enemy could be further away. This leads into the 2nd scenario, which we would call wide peeking/ swinging the angle. If you know an enemy has the angle advantage, it can sometimes work to get as close to the corner as possible and full sprint out, thus throwing off their crosshair placement as you are moving away from the corner relatively faster. Of course it doesn't always work, but if the enemy is expecting you to slow peek it might catch them by surprise. The third scenario is what we would call a crouch peek. It takes the same principle of the wide peek to throw off the crosshair placement of the enemy by peeking out much lower than what they expect. Only drawback is you are kind of committed to the fight, as crouching hinders your movement slightly. In the last example, we dont really have anything comparable in tac-shooters, as its just not a mechanic in the game to blind-fire around corners. The closest thing we would have is "spamming" in which you shoot through thin surfaces blindly, or perhaps "pre-firing" in which you basically shoot as soon as you know your crosshair will be around the corner, regardless of target confirmation.
@LastStar007Ай бұрын
Angle disadvantage is caused by the fact that the character models in games have their rifles tight in their shoulder pocket no matter what they do, whereas their elbows and legs extend past their guns to the left and right. "Real" humans will lean, switch shoulders, and tuck their stock into their bicep, or even hold it outside their bicep, so that ideally the first thing the enemy sees is your muzzle. Both the wide peek and the crouch peak are exploiting the reactionary gap between where your opponent expects you to be and where you actually are. Perhaps the more "gamey" equivalent to the blindfire technique is grenades/flashbangs, which can be thrown around corners, and are much easier for a video game character to get their hands on than a real person.
@1988maybeАй бұрын
as a gamer ı agree with you, well explained
@magma26809 күн бұрын
another thing that separates reality and tactical shooters is that in the 2nd scenario you mentioned, the mechanics of actually moving your weapon and tracking the enemy are completely different and is by far easier and faster in real life. In the vast majority if not all games, locomotion or the movement of the legs and body to move yourself forward is not simulated fully, however in real life it happens naturally and it can be anticipated. That is why leading targets and shooting them where they will be is easier, not to mention that in games, you effectively do not have a wrist, you use your entire arm. In real life you can use your arm, elbow and wrist as well as fingers individually or combined to manipulate and turn or position the gun, so you simply do not have the problem of a crosshair when you can simply move the gun sideways without turning your bodyy or your entire stiff arm but instead just moving the gun in your arms irrespective of where your head is looking or body is positioned. Games like insurgency do at least allow you to have a feeling for how it would look and feel like although i'm not sure if it genuinely simulates it.
@DarthvaporapexАй бұрын
The whole video is great but the reality check was just perfect. I would add that if it’s a thin wall I would shoot through it. Obviously the wall in the video is not penetrable but all the walls in my house are. I know if I shoot the wall over my stove the rounds will pass through my bedroom closet and shower. If I shoot just to the right my bedroom door frame the rounds will also pass behind the bathroom doorway. No one is going to have a tactical advantage in my own home.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Shooting trough the wall is a possibility, but it depends on the wall. Here in Poland most of the interior walls are build from bricks, or other hard concrete type materials. In my home walls are as thick as the ones on the video, so no way I can do it, but if your environment allows it and you feel comfortable about it it's an option.
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
It's physically possible to shoot through walls, but in the moment, when you know there's an armed intruder in your home in another room with a gun of his own, and adrenaline is pumping through your body... you might not have the time or mental faculties to think/confirm about where the bullet will go if you miss, the bullet deviates, or if they guy moves. Something to consider. That, and handgun rounds are horrible fight stoppers, I can easily see a guy waste more than half his mag of 9mm trying to guestimate shots, and then have a few shots left to actually hit the attacker with.
@abettermind29 күн бұрын
You need to know exactly where they are at to shoot through cover. You will be very unlikely to have this information. Blasting through walls is almost always a bad idea, but it's an option. Either way, though, if you're advancing on them, they DO have an advantage, even in your home.
@mygoodsir5392 ай бұрын
i think seeing first person view of what each method looks like would help too
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Good idea. We will add it for sure on the next production.
@Mingmingmeow903 күн бұрын
@@bzacademy-polandindeed
@legobuildingsrewiew75382 ай бұрын
I predict if you keep making videos like this you will get to 10 000 subscribers soon.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your support. That is the plan. We have plenty of One Man CQB Content recorded and will upload 2-3 videos per week.
@joshprestigiacamo7551Ай бұрын
This video made me subscribe.
@TheOccasionalGunTuberАй бұрын
Gear and split times means nothing without tactics. Happy to see elevation changes and blind corner shots when the target has already been identified. Shooting through drywall is also an option but remember that works both ways.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Agree on the tactics. Flat range target practice got not much in common with a gunfight in my opinion. It helps of course with the fundamentals of shooting, but when it comes to the fight much more variables need to be taken into account.
@literallynooneimportant6083Ай бұрын
japierdole jaki świetny materiał. Teoria sprawdzona w praktyce, nawijacie po angielsku lepiej niż nasz prezydent. Bardzo mi sie podobało, na święta obejrzę z całą rodziną, pozdro
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Cieszymy sie że weszło:) Pozdrawiamy i zapraszamy do subskrypcjii kanału.
@mik10372 ай бұрын
Love the experimenting, more is better! Makes you think about always having a small drone on you and it's applications...
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Yes, drones are being used more often recently not only in the battlefields but also by LE.
@nightcall7398Ай бұрын
I remember playing airsoft and someone tried to flank me in a very close quarters spot. I have been conditioned to react by immediately dumping an entire magazine into any flankers. The flanker himself was not ready for the barrage of bullets (BBs) that stopped him in his tracks. He was too busy telling me he was "hit" than try to shoot back. Lesson I learned: 1. Surprise is always a good thing to have on your side 2. Overwhelm the aggressor to the point they are the victim 3. Always strive to be a highly observant person in all your senses (hearing, sight, smell etc.). You will gain great awareness during times of relaxation and times of high stress.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
We may try it next time, and see what the results are going to be.
@obtuseguru72592 ай бұрын
There is actually a great video of russian military storm trooper explaining this kind of situation. In the video the trooper explains that, you should when clearing a room corner move like you did in "slicing the pie" horizontally, peaking to see the target, not too much just enough to notice where the target is. Then you would fire with "zero exposure">peak again with "slicing the pie" and fire and if the target is still not down you would level change and fire again.
@nickst27972 ай бұрын
What is the name of the video?
@jansvoboda4293Ай бұрын
Another variant is extremely short peekaboo slicing. Where you just rapidly move your head and return back to safety before enemy can react. Then depending on situation either zero exposure at close uncovered target is possible, but IMHO changing elevation is more universal in winning corners at various distances against opponents in cover. You do not always have short corner, sometimes you have whole corridor or hall.
@obtuseguru7259Ай бұрын
@@nickst2797 Saw it on telegram but as yourself, couldn't find it anywhere. Luckily i saved it, so i uploaded it for anybody interested in this topic, also i might add to BZ academy, great video, i didn't give enough credit!
@mike8386Ай бұрын
Its called blind fire, but yeah, a lot of the gun fights in war are like that, you rapidly just snap your head into the corner very slightly just enough to notice A person and then just blind fire at him.
@modalizeАй бұрын
Heil putla
@Rajinbin15 күн бұрын
I love this channel of trying different things.
@dblanco301828 күн бұрын
This is a great breakdown of CQB using different methods.
@bzacademy-poland27 күн бұрын
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching.
@touchedbystylecommunityart535024 күн бұрын
This is very realistic, very and I had thoughts of this before and I’m so glad I found this channel
@Mingmingmeow903 күн бұрын
great reality check mate, thank you so much
@-Tokay-Ай бұрын
You missed one option. The call of duty slide. Gets me every time. Just sprint towards the doorway and start a horizontal slide right before entering while you begin blasting away into the corner. 🤣
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Too old for that:)
@jaimejosepaternina2 ай бұрын
Nice demostration...
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@nightcall7398Ай бұрын
These are great things to think about. In a real situation like this, either one is about to die or be seriously injured, so the adrenaline is also a factor. Your enemy might even think of the same exact things. I think you must be the one to causing a reaction rather than being the one who needs to react in this situation.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Correct, but still not all the options worked in my favor.
@mattdoesyoutube9000Ай бұрын
If I were to ever be in some sort of firefight like this, however unlikely it would be, I would use a mirror to check around walls and under doors! I want to see this method tested!
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
In this case it was known where the assailant is located, so no need to use the mirror. Anyway do you always carry mirror with you?
@mattdoesyoutube9000Ай бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland For sure, not. But maybe it would be a good idea to keep a mirror with your guns just in case! Unless of course that only causes more problems?
@kballs94Ай бұрын
go ahead. try it. try using a mirror around a corner and see how fast you can react
@mattdoesyoutube9000Ай бұрын
@@kballs94 why do you sound hostile?
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
To be honest I never tried using a mirror to check the corner, but only by thinking about it I can already see some issues with hand switching problem (left/right corner). But it's a good subject to actually try how it works.
@protectyour2a4822 ай бұрын
In the end, if you know the threat is behind a corner- the less your body is exposed the better
@salmonskinlover2365Ай бұрын
Thank you, I need to check out your channel more, this is awesome.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@LTVoyagerАй бұрын
It is often hard to be sure that the perpetrator doesn’t have a hostage with them as a shield or to know what is behind the wall behind the perpetrator. Shooting blind is highly risky in most scenarios. I was waiting for you to throw something into the room to draw the perpetrators attention to that moving object and give you time to “slice the pie” and get off a shot and then retreat behind cover to assess the effectiveness of that first shot. Or, depending on the circumstances, you can just go all in and keep shooting and hope to disable the perpetrator before they can land a shot on you.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Next time we will try to do the tactics you have mentioned. For sure worth trying.
@C420sailor2 ай бұрын
Frag out
@DittersGustav2 ай бұрын
The right answer right here 😂
@jross12692 ай бұрын
the mischievous m67
@freddyj17282 ай бұрын
😂
@dantauche7917Ай бұрын
And then your house is fucked lol
@DeadWayfesАй бұрын
You can always just yell it and throw something heavy to scare/distract and go in at the same time
@TheUndergroundGazette21 күн бұрын
Put up some foam padding for the echo man
@patrickbedruz6475Ай бұрын
Great breakdown, love the science of it!
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@joaovictorborges1562Ай бұрын
Very good demonstrations 👏
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@moatdd5 күн бұрын
great video, it also made me consider that sometimes your opponent doesn't go down instantly from getting hit. It really depends on where they were hit and things like adrenaline and luck. It's extremely risky. If you managed to tag the other guy without getting hit, that's great, but staying around to land more hits to ensure their incapacitation opens you to retaliatory fire, but falling back to wait for them to bleed out may give them the initiative. I don't think I would have any confidence in pulling off that sort of shootout and I'd much rather fall back entirely.
@Professor-DatingАй бұрын
Thank you. This will help me to improve in playing James Bond games.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
try zero exposure:):)
@bghiggyАй бұрын
Good argument for recreational frag grenades 😂 Really though I almost wonder if falling back into a darker part of the room and "letting it breathe" would be the safest option for you especially if you know he is alone. Turn the ambusher into the ambushee
@diligentsun11542 ай бұрын
Definitely gonna 'one hand reach' around the corner, and fire without actually seeing
@mike8386Ай бұрын
Happens in war where you dont expect any civillians all the time, most gun fights are like that.
@adam108Ай бұрын
Świetny materiał, zajebiste podejście do tematu - analityczna formuła, like and sub !!! mam nadzieję, że to się będzie rozwijać :) Pzdr!
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Witam, dziękujemy. Chciaż kanał istnieje już dlugo, to nigdy nie skupialiśmy się na nim. Bardziej nas interesowały nasze szkolenia w realu. Ostatnio wpadliśmy na pomysł, aby się wiedzą podzielić z bardzo dobrym sygnałem zwrotnym od widzów. Także motywacja jest i na pewno będziemy wrzucać materiał. Poprawimy też kość, bo dźwięk nie wyszedł tu najlepiej. Pozdrawiam
@adam108Ай бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland Super, dzielenie się wiedzą na YT napewno się zwróci z nawiązką w myśl zasady "karma is a bitch" :) - żart. Pozdrawiam z Trójmiasta
@Mr.Rhox693 күн бұрын
Watching this just confirms my thoughts that the "zero exposure" is the safest bet. A bunch of trench clearing gunfight videos that come up from Ukraine show soliders shooting into dugouts like that. Not exposing yourself, firing a bunch of rounds at a possible target or a confirmed one (they moslty deal with it by chucking a granade inside 1st, but firing a firearm does play out mosly like you show it here). So this practical showcase of different engagement scenarios is very helpful and informative.
@LucLamontagne-g9hАй бұрын
You guys forgot to demonstrate the "Quackbang" technique. For some reason I believe this tactic would work 90% of the time !
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
What is the techniques you call "Quickbang"? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the terminology. Is it when you pop out, place a few shoots and hide back?
@Utopian1234Ай бұрын
yeah Im curious as to what that technique is too
@bolomouser13 күн бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland I think he's referencing The Fat Electrician, who knew someone who would throw a rubber duck instead of a flashbang to confuse enemies, then fire while they were confused. When he threw the duck he'd say "quackbang."
@legobuildingsrewiew75382 ай бұрын
Good video.To the point. Keep them coming. You earned another subscriber.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@MarreadАй бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO!!
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@joco762Ай бұрын
Well, I started with that’s gonna suck without grenades. Then I picked up on “in your house” and went with elevation change. Then I saw blind shot and now I’m back to grenades. Kidding aside really good stuff.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@huymammin5915Ай бұрын
i heared that soviet times kgb specnaz tactics is to look to a corner very fast from lower 1/3 of height(90% of people after a corner are aiming in a chest). and then they shoot without aiming from corner and its working more or less good, sometimes😂
@dexterm200314 күн бұрын
So, full security cams so that you can see the assailants' exact location and no-exposure shot around the corner to neutralize the threat.
@minutemanflАй бұрын
What a great video, thank you.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you. Appreciate it.
@FightingCondition10 күн бұрын
From Germany, we have cover Walls :) ok..very good work here. well explained and good conclusion at the end. what i am missing are: the keypoints for the best/safe strategy as conlusion. Go one with this good work
@ninja5672Ай бұрын
Some observations: An additional technique not tested would be the "pre-fire" where you pie the corner fairly quickly, but already firing and walking the shots into the target (not knowing the exact position/elevation of target). With real firearms, the muzzle blast and fear of being hit might be enough to keep the target from accurately returning fire. Another thing, if you were the one in the corner, to avoid the "blind fire" technique demonstrated last, you might wait in a more open position, which might surprise an attempted "blind fire", and also might give you a slight room to retreat from an attempt to "pie the corner". Also, there is always the possibility at an time that the person in the corner might use one of the same tactics against you to go on the offense. In all situations, this is a very high risk attack. There is a reason the military avoids doing this whenever possible, but instead uses indirect methods to reach a defended confined space.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Very good points here. Thank you for your comment.
@mike8386Ай бұрын
Many militaries try to avoid it by training against it but if you watch enough combat footage youll notice that this is one of the most used tactics to just blind fire (even if trained otherwise, natural reaction of your body not wanting to be exposed to lethal danger) when you either know for sure or even just suspect someone to be there, some militaries are even teaching this way of assaulting a room, throw a grenade, pre fire WITH blind fire both hard corners and keep walking in as you pre fire the entire room which may sound chaotic and unorganized, but if done properly and trained actually very effective and counters many other "flashy/hollywoody/cinematic" tactics.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Agree. As a matter of fact I've seen footage from Ukraine, where UA special forces were clearing trenches from Russians using only blind fire technique. On top of that there were also screaming to Russians to give up before they proceeded with blind fire giving them opportunity to survive. (not sure if they always do that if they don't record it). I've seen also this technique done by the IDF in GAZA. This technique is very controversial, but it's the safest one you can do. However in a civilian environment it may carry some consequences.
@kurtbaier6122Ай бұрын
Interesting. Thank you. If I didn’t know if he was in that room I would expose less of myself.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Me neither
@dandillon8775Ай бұрын
Nice one B, you taught me Krav in the UK Bro 👍
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Good to hear!
@HalfBreedMixАй бұрын
Elevation change (crouching) is risky though, since it limits your movement and exposes your head to shots fired from a lowering gun (bad guy after being hit).
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
All CQB is very risky, especially if you do it on your own. To minimize the risk of getting hit I did it dynamically, and got back to cover quickly after taking the threat down. This part in this particular case was successful, but it does not mean it will be successful always.
@MightOfMjolnirАй бұрын
should always carry a lil paracord "monkeys fist" with a small lanyard handle that you can tug on to unravel into ~1 meter length of rope because if you swing that around the corner you can essentially make contact without ever exposing yourself or at the very least use it to create a distraction. another method i'd incorporate knowing the guy was in the corner waiting like that is to simply take a low stance and get your pistol hand to about "center mass" for a crouch and then just poke your pistol around the corner and squeeze off 2-3 rounds only ever exposing your gun and hand.
@dantauche7917Ай бұрын
This. I'm surprised they didn't try throwing anything as a distraction
@tylerleavitt2715Ай бұрын
Not exposing your head, ever, is the name of the game with this scenario sir. Be safe out there. Elevation chg, fire 7or 8!fast accurate ones with only barrel and little bit of fingers exposed is what works.
@jakes-dev1337Ай бұрын
CSGO tip- you will have peek advantage if you clear the corner from a wider angle than the offender.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Correct, but in this particular set up it was not possible to take an advantage of that.
@markzuckerberg31282 ай бұрын
This channel is awesome.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
👊👊👊
@AMan-JCILАй бұрын
You could also use a psychological method. By trying to talk him out of the situation but half way through your sentence lean out and do the business. By talking to him even though he is still very much alert to the situation you are taking some of his focus away from the situation by conversing with him and so 30-40% of his focus is on your voice. As soon as you stop talking then his focus is back to 100% but it is least expected for you to do the business if you do it before finishing your sentence 😉 Note: Of course talking to him also puts you at risk too since he can gauge how close you are and where you are positioned by the sound of your voice and he may not be at all interested in what you have to say and so it has pros and cons. So it's very much down to personal preference and you don't want to talk too long giving him the chance to gauge where you're positioned and decide to do the business to you before you finish your sentence. That would be a complete flip of the script lol
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Good point here, but the assumption of the video was to try four tactics to see what result we can get. Next time we will also try to do the talking bit. Thanks for the comment.
@AMan-JCILАй бұрын
@bzacademy-poland I didn't expect a response but thank you for the reply, it's much appreciated and keep the the good videos. I always enjoy watching this type of content. 😇👍
@AMan-JCILАй бұрын
@bzacademy-poland I'm not sure how you will be able to test it since he will know what the tactic is. Of course, it still may work but it will not be as effective as it would be in a real life situation against someone who is unaware of that tactic. If you try this method for the purpose of a video, he will know that as soon as you start talking you are getting ready to pop out and do the business, so he will probably be super focused lol. Would be fun to see though.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
No worry, I'll make sure he's not aware. I have my ways:)
@AMan-JCILАй бұрын
@@bzacademy-poland Haha. Can't wait to see it 😁
Ай бұрын
Nice and interesting set of movies. Thx for this. Makes me also even more interested into the C.A.R. System. BZ Home defence course... yes, maybe 2026... already planed another course at ESA next year. ;-)
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Let us know when you free. Take care
@oscardominguez6491Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@benjago9282Ай бұрын
What i've learned from video games, is that the farther away you are from a corner, the easier it is to see an enemy without them seeing you. But this only happens with extended body parts like arms or legs.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
You see. You can learn from video games too. This is correct, the longer distance from the cover/corner you have the better field of view you have, and more time and space for reaction. What was that, COD?
@benjago9282Ай бұрын
@bzacademy-poland the game is called CSGO or CS2, but yeah i do think you can learn import skills from games wether you realize it or not.
@donaldlowe299Ай бұрын
Great video
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@jerneilbautista636720 минут бұрын
Hmm it depends... the problem is the ambience shadow, if the gunner can read that shadows(shadows corners reading).. . Both has a tactical winning techincs. Things are too to complicated but prepairedness do help the gunner to win the firefigth
@chumooskie5527Ай бұрын
I thought they would test the hyper-peek method. If you need info on an unknown threat potential. It can also be followed up by more precise blind fire.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
We did not test this one, but for sure we will perform the test again, as there are many good ideas in the comments we would like to try, so subscribe, so you won't miss it:)
@fromthesticks2027Ай бұрын
In the 3rd response the model appears to be one of doing the unexpected (changing height) - anticipating (the others position - high, low) - acting (shooting). This response was successful and can be fast. It is successful because it employs an action which slows the others reaction by necessitating a correction (change of height). It is fast because it is leading action out front of reaction (anticipation). If in leaning from the crouched position the hands are high anticipating a standing corner guy but the discovery is that he is crouching aiming high both persons must engage in correction. I believe at that point the advantage may be lost and both engage in a burst ( reaction speed) to first shots and accuracy/caliber/type of firearm/lighting for either guy/other factors that may slow reaction or put off aim (light burst)/training,commitment, armor etc. Thanks for doing this experiment which may challenge many truisms and show the difficulty in reality and why better doctrine may prevail over some established truisms.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Very good comment. Thank you for that. If you look closely at second attempt (Running into the room), when I run into the room I was expecting the corner guy to be standing, and automatically I took the shot as soon as I passed the corner. Unfortunately for me he decided to go lower, and lowered his posture. As a matter of fact my shot was the first one, and landed where his upper chest/neck would be if he was standing. (like on the first go). Then I adjusted the high, but it was too late as I got hit.
@fromthesticks2027Ай бұрын
@bzacademy-poland yes exactly. It would be interesting to try the run with a mind set of ' not knowing' where the other is high or low and perhaps a second after rolling in an unfamiliar nonesense object. Pick something up T the dollor store destroy it or a toilet tank floating ball disfigured so it's unrecognizable. The mind is being led to identify 'what is that' sllows reaction. The mind unless the most disciplined like a dog cannot let go of identifying even if it eventually decides, 'it's nonesense'. Again attacking defender must unhook from expectations/anticipstion of his ploy, that it will have x effect. Love the work you do. You have earned my subscription.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you
@Natedoc808Ай бұрын
The move at 6min is what came to my mind first. If you know he’s there and he’s is a solo threat with clear background.
@Nipah.AuauauАй бұрын
To mitigate the blind-fire issue from zero exposure, you could just peek the corner real quick. If done quick enough both of you will see each other but not have enough time to shoot, and exposing yourself just enough to see is a much smaller target than exposing enough to see + shoot.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Sure, but why would I do that in this particular scenario where a the beginning we agreed that we know that the threat is in the corner? It would be good to discover unknown area when we don't know what is in the corners.
@GarciarageАй бұрын
I have a question: If the bad guy in the corner hears you coming and moves slightly away from the corner, wouldn't you miss him, giving him the upper hand in returning fire on you if you do not identify exactly where he is first?
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Sure that may happen. However in most of the cases we try to get close to the corner, so we may see him moving. CQB is really unpredictable, and many things may happen.
@draindopeАй бұрын
Its very hard to precisely predict this kind of situations where 1. bad guy might have a 1second advantage and he gets an iniciative or the fact he will move so the "full covered" tactic might make you not full covered. Also depents of width of the wall between you. Dobry film Panowie.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Agree, the situation is very dangerous, and unpredictable.
@MarksBluesАй бұрын
Also, could you show us one where you use a Flash Bang? ( Not that everyone has a Flash Bang at the ready, improvise! ) Toss it right in front of him with your eyes closed, ears covered for the second. With his wide open waiting for you, off guard he would not be able to see, or hear for that matter for more than enough time to take care of business. Or as noted by other comments a distraction of some sort. A home invasion scenario or situation can happen or change so fast, and no two are ever the same. You have to be ready for anything. Train. Practice. Above all stay aware.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
We could do this, but I don't believe that will bring any benefit to the subject, as we are talking about civilian home defence scenario. If you have one of course sure it may give you an advantage.
@ish1057Ай бұрын
Good video. One of the things I was hoping to see you try was skipping rounds either off the corner or the floor to see if you could disorient him and get in there. Less safe than just blind firing, but in a couple of your attempts both of you seemed to recoil pretty hard for fear of getting shot so it'd be interesting to see if that'd change anything in your favor. Blind fire is probably underrated but I'd guess that's because most this info comes from vets worried about friendlies in an urban war context, just not worth the risk of catching a friendly bullet because privatefaggot got spooked by your boots.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Very good comment, and idea. We will try it next time, and see how it works. Of course skipping rounds may not be good for every environment, such as houses built from woods etc, but here in Poland we have solid interior walls, so it may be a good idea.
@m.jenkins8503Ай бұрын
Good video
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@lawrencemartin1113Ай бұрын
"Frag out!!"😂
@JozseffirstGamingchannelАй бұрын
Would have liked to see elevation change pushed to extremities, basically diving or sliding on the floor and pushing the corner at the same time
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Too much video games. I'm too old for that:)
@jeffjones7427Ай бұрын
Backflips and blind fire. You win the internet. AY first name G.
@martinlescadir1155Ай бұрын
what boots is the guy in black wearing? nice video btw
@slaphappychappy9 күн бұрын
Love to see videos out of Poland. A great country with great people! But for corner guy…FRAG OUT!!! Lol.
@brighambaker3381Ай бұрын
Knowing his position vs clearing without knowing who is where makes all the difference here.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Yes. It changes completely the game.
@alejandromata82528 күн бұрын
You forgot the frag out option.
@maxisalas524915 күн бұрын
At the end u said the best is to wait (if u don't have to enter) but that just contradicts the video bc the invader can do what the video recommended.
@bankztv9630Ай бұрын
What about misdirection? Toss something into the room and then immediately employ zero-exposure?
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Possible solution, we will try to test it next time, and see how it works.
@gmz1997Ай бұрын
I can't see where this would actually be applied except in a combat environment and situation. In that case I'm keeping distance, dumping the mag into that corner splattering tiles in the opponents face, getting the angle and dispatching the threat.
@bzacademy-poland27 күн бұрын
Example we discussed at the beginning of the video. Someone is in your house, and you need to get to your family located in the other part of the house. You spot the armed guy, he noticed you, and took cover. You saw him too. How likely this is going to happen who knows?
@lockedon8953Ай бұрын
I think as a civilian, the best less risky situation would be to lock down the room and wait for police. As police use a flash bang or stinger. Try to do everything to reduce risk
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Yes correct, and I talk about it at the very beginning of this video. However in the scenario when you wait for the cops to arrive, being armed, and having your family being assaulted in the other part of the house, you may have to make a decision to get involved.
@trentbulen3854Ай бұрын
Have to remember this to crouch really low weapon ready when approaching a corner
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
You mean in low ready?
@joe125fulАй бұрын
Throw grenade?:) 5:54 That is correct way to me for close range shots. Also crounch work well too. Its bad always expose too much of body. Or just be more defensive,call police or talk to him?
@volkswangenАй бұрын
I was waiting for that little Saw puppet to roll through on his creepy tricycle.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
You should see the rest of the basement of this facility:) Ideal for next SAW movie stage:)
@XeviousGGАй бұрын
from the defender perspective is it viable to "pre-fire" ahead of time?
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
This is an interesting concept, and we will try it soon.
@Fp-ph7qs2 ай бұрын
Seems obvious to only engage the hand around the corner (not the body), no?
@MannElite2 ай бұрын
That would only work if you had no risk of collateral damage in that direction and you already knew that you wanted to kill whatever is in that corner without looking at it first to make sure... that being said, there is a good chance that you wouldn't kill them instantly with a handgun without aiming, so they would probably shoot back at you either in the hand or through the corner, so it would be a messy gunfight at best. At worse, you just killed your neighbor or your friend accidentally because you weren't sure of your target and what is beyond it, or you miss the bad guy and they shoot you through the corner because they know where you are standing because your arm is visible.
@eduardolimaargimon5499Ай бұрын
Ive seen a couple of people do the running on force on force and not get hit because they hit the actor really fast and a lot of times (I did it once without getting hit) so I guess that it depends on whether you hit the shots or not. The actor got hit once out of 3 or 4 shots fired
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
In this particular scenario if you watch closely, I fired first , but I missed due to threat lowering the level. If he stayed standing as on the first go, that techniques would work on my favor. This shows, how dangerous, and unpredictable CQB is.
@purdysanchez7 күн бұрын
American here. Don't even engage in these types of scenarios unless it is immediately necessary to save people from immediate life threatening situations.
@883492 ай бұрын
I get what ur doin in this training scenario but when it comes to this kind of head to head stand off it will be 50/50 .. these odds are not good so u would need some thing to effect the odds in ur favor slitly enuff that u can get the first shot.. iv plaid out this very thing and used a small item to throw across the room the heavier the better with a high percentage it took ops attention for that split second i needed to place rounds on target..great video thanks cheers mate✨️👍
@MJayzStudio2 ай бұрын
I've always thought about something similar to what you're saying about the item/object thrown across/middle of room.. sounds like a good idea however.... maybe using rounds in place of just throwing an object you find is a better idea???
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a plan. We will try next time for sure.
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
sounds good. We have not tried this distracting tactic, but it's definitely worth trying.
@joeholloway45582 ай бұрын
Yes, throw something, preferably something that looks like a hand grenade.
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
Ideally you want the first shot, agreed, but if you understand ballistics, you know that unless you hit the CNS (and a good hit in the CNS) the first shot won't stop him, and more than likely both of you will have a trade window of lethal shots.
@dannyallen4357Ай бұрын
I like your channel.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
I appreciate that!
@CR3W1SH03SАй бұрын
Flash-bang for the win.
@freddyj17282 ай бұрын
What pants are you wearing and where can I get them? Thanks
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
UF PRO - you get them online.
@freddyj1728Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@the_lyrical_woodsman29 күн бұрын
Going forward, would definitely recommend you to invest in a basic external lapel mic setup. That room has way too echo and reverb to be 100% understandable what you guys are saying, especially the "offender" guy.
@bzacademy-poland28 күн бұрын
Thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are aware of that. Next time for sure we will improve audio, and video quality.
@N0P3SugarАй бұрын
Face as close to the wall and use third person to peek at your enemies and do the peek and weave back and forts. If the enemy pushes you your options are slide jump the hell out of there or bunny hop while shooting.
@jerneilbautista636714 минут бұрын
[2:49] The rules on slicing the pie is that on the stimated last pie... that is your last option to do that running,slide, glide, sidestepp sweaping. Theres no rules sweaping at the 3rd,2nd to last pi sir. Its dangerous. Always considered the last pie rules
@dandetande2882 ай бұрын
The first technique is wromg, he should have the finger on the triger, and in high redy
@bzacademy-poland2 ай бұрын
A finger on the trigger for sure will speed up the response, but I can't entirely agree with High Ready. High Ready is slower to engage (tested it many times with a timer), but most importantly, it disturbs the view of what is below. If the attacker was low (kneeling, sitting on something, or in low squat position, or hiding behind the furniture) you would probably not even see him, as your pistol, and hands would block the field of view.
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
USPSA shooters train both with finger on the trigger and without, the difference is measured to 0.05th of a second. If you think that matters that's up to you.
@mike8386Ай бұрын
@@UrbanDefenseSystems The closer the gun fight is the more lower numbers matter and youre talking about shooters that train for a long time and have drilled muscle memory, most people that buy a gun just go to the range every now and then and not many even dry practice at home or anything so these numbers will go up and matter even more at that range.
@UrbanDefenseSystemsАй бұрын
@@mike8386 I don't disagree about the lower numbers mattering the closer the fight is, but lets look at the bigger picture. 99.9% of people doing this stuff in real life, including police and SWAT, will be doing it while not knowing for sure if the corner has a threat or a civilian, a home invader or a family/friend. That finger off the trigger can prevent you from popping one off unintentionally in a high stress situation. And honestly, if people are researching this kinda stuff thinking they'll need it someday, then they really should train so that they can employ safety measures without hindering their shooting.
@mike8386Ай бұрын
@UrbanDefenseSystems Agreed.
@IAmIM2024Ай бұрын
Grenade. Round the corner. Bosch. Threat neutralised. Lol
@BoroCZechАй бұрын
Can tactical flashlight make a difference? The guy is starting at the corner. In theory intense light can partially blind him for a moment, that may be enough. I really like this experimental approach. The only concern is the opponent is "scripted" to wait in the corner. I wonder how the situation changes if he is allowed/motivated to make move as well. It's reasonable to expect that he will want to run/attack/whatever, not just stay in the corner and wait for cops.
@bzacademy-polandАй бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Flashlight can be useful of course, OC Spray, and other things. We may try it on the other tests. On this video we covered what we covered. Yes opponent was scripted to stay there, but he changed the elevation which caused my second attempt to engage to fail if you look closely.