Between Bloke and BritishMuzzleloaders, I am having a grand time remembering a good friend who served in the British Army back in the 1950s. He had one thing to say of the Stens he had to work with: "If it worked still after a decade of being in the hands of bloody fools like me, I think the bullets occasionally went the direction you asked them to, but they never did reply to queries on the matter. They may not have been literate enough to write back."
@El-Burrito4 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic :D
@ptonpc4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't help that by the 50's they would basically be pretty worn out I imagine.
@Muster_Muckee_II4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you can still find tons of them in the Middle East, along with several other oldie SMGs. And I suppose, if situation dire enough, an old piece of sheet metal formed into angry tube that happens to spit lead is better than nothing.
@eugenemurray29403 жыл бұрын
Never forgetting Gun Jesus of.. Forgotten weapons...
@tomsoki57382 жыл бұрын
@@Muster_Muckee_II At 10m for urban combat it really doesn’t matter how accurate your gun is, it needs to put that 9mm projectile on a human sized target…
@Chlorate2994 жыл бұрын
Official directions on the use of a Sten gun: 1. Come within 50 yards of the target 2. Point nozzle in their general direction 3. Hold down trigger until either you run out of ammo or the target is sufficiently perforated. That blob of weld looks suspiciously like it could be undone by a very naughty person with a dremel.
@doktormusmatta4 жыл бұрын
3.b. Or, indeed, you are sufficiently perforated.
@Chlorate2994 жыл бұрын
3.c. It doesn't really matter so long as *something* now resembles a colander.
@kennethcrane98484 жыл бұрын
best $3.95 ever spent~~
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
Most of those guns were carried a lot but never used in anger. I have shot a couple and they are remarkable for how cheesy they feel. I'm still obsessed with them and the much better Sterling.
@andycraig69052 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people don't realize how far 50 or 100 yards is when you're in a fight.
@matthewspencer50864 жыл бұрын
I second the idea that installing the barrel at 180o to the way it was, might have worked. Once, in either the eighties or the nineties, there was some sort of WW2 anniversary programme on the BBC and a couple of (relatively youthful) Home Guard veterans were interviewed, on a firing range. One of them was give a STEN gun for a firing demonstration, but the first thing he did was face the camera over a bench, take the gun to pieces and very deftly put it back together again. He didn't stare at the barrel, he just gave it a glance and popped it into place in a particular way. Then, I think at 50 yards, he proceeded to fire in very controlled two or three shot bursts. When he looked at his target, they were all pretty well centered. "Not bad for a STEN gun firing bursts" with a gentle smile. Why would a Home Guard know how to do this better than then a conscript in the regular army at the time? It was a conscript army, to some extent trained by other conscripts, and few of the regular army would have any prior knowledge of guns other than what they were told in training. In contrast, the LDV ("Home Guard"), in Bromham, Beds, at least were recruited thus, according to my late mother. "The gamekeepers were all called in to Bromham Hall and told by their employer to volunteer. Then the policeman went round to all the poacher's cottages and marched them all down to volunteer." My grandfather, being a clerk and a Baptist lay preacher, was politely encouraged to join the ARP, which he did. Other men were recruited once the poachers and gamekeepers had become familiar with the available weapons and felt able to tell novices how to actually hit things with them. After Mr Eden's speech in 1942, describing what he knew of what is now known as the holocaust, even my grandfather was allowed to join the Home Guard and given a STEN gun. It was left to my mother to teach him about it...
@awmperry4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Spencer Having a hunt around for that, but it’s not easy to find. If you remember what it was called I’d be fascinated to see it.
@matthewspencer50864 жыл бұрын
@@awmperry I think it must have been BBC, and look in years that were Home Guard anniversaries. It might have been 1991 therefore. I was living in Clifton when I watched it, so not after 1999.
@awmperry4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, will look around. :)
@matthewspencer50864 жыл бұрын
@@awmperry In a way I would almost hope that it was Channel Four: the BBC tends to put the tapes of all the good programmes in a skip and burn them.
@awmperry4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewspencer5086 You're not wrong. Back in the 80s there was a terrific kids' science show called Big Top Science, and there's hardly any record of it anywhere. :-(
@jandayranl4 жыл бұрын
"Hi, we're out on the range today so please bear with gunfire you hear in the background."
@ragnarragnarsson31284 жыл бұрын
Very Paul Harrell-esque....
@skuzapo93654 жыл бұрын
jandayranl ....go play with yourself.
@jandayranl4 жыл бұрын
@@skuzapo9365 Just quoting another great gun expert
@johnwillis47062 жыл бұрын
I machined a 16" barrel for my MkII from a large diameter 9mm barrel blank. It solved the eccentric problem and improved accuracy greatly. It now actually shoots to aim point at 100 yards.
@johnhaynes99104 жыл бұрын
My Father who joined the British Army in 1937 commented on the WWII Sten that a left handed man couldn't hit a barn door at 10 yds on full auto ! I only ever fired the Stirling version and that was 'very sophisticated, comparatively' :)
@535tony3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sten MKII parts kit in the early 90's so I could have some spare parts for my transferable Sten . the parts kit came from either India or Pakistan. The barrel nut was actually spot welded to the receiver. Now I know why, the Army didn't want the soldiers to change the point of aim by messing with the barrels. Great video. Information I never knew about.
@BokoDisraeli4 жыл бұрын
Now I’m curious how often a sten in service would have be off that badly in elevation. The grouping is impressive regardless. Kudos to the man behind the trigger!
@petoncovet84764 жыл бұрын
Been there, done that! Persistence and ALOT of ammo pays off sometimes! Good job Mike 😜
@xaquko97184 жыл бұрын
Lmao I readed persistence as pestilence
@dave_h_87422 жыл бұрын
@@xaquko9718 well it's been a bad few yrs 😂
@Leatherbark3 жыл бұрын
My semi-auto Sten I installed a locator pin to align with a notch in the barrel flange to where it indexes the same all the time. I then removed the front sight and installed a No. 4 Mk 1 Enfield sight with protectors on the barrel. Mine fires from a closed bolt and everyone comments on the range as to how I can ring the 250 yard gongs offhand. Replacing the sight and moving it out to the end of the barrel really made a difference. But firing from a closed bolt probably helped as much.
@535tony3 жыл бұрын
I have owned a Sten MKII since 1991 and I never knew this! I just looked at my barrel and found the mark. My Sten has always shot a little to the right. I will have to see if indexing the barrel helped. Thanks for this information.
@hlaingminnhtut57413 жыл бұрын
Hello .Can u help me please ? I'm from Myanmar ,the country which the dictatorship military kill thousand of innocent citizens. We need to fight back to these murder army.But we don' have automatic guns even rifle.we only have muzzle loader. It's not ok in closed range . Now we are making LUTY SMG gun .we need some technics such rifling. Can u tell me how to riflinh for SMG ? We have man power but no weapons . We must fight for Democracy. Sorry for bad grammer.
@StacheMan264 жыл бұрын
I initially heard "the sight radius is kind of short" as "the sight radius is kind of shit" which, well, I guess it's not inaccurate that way as well.
@heikopanzlaff37894 жыл бұрын
During my apx. 4000 days with the German Military I carried an UZI Submachine gun, the version with the folding stock. Was quite accurate @ 100 m and usable up to 200. Barrel can only be installed in 1 position there.
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
The Uzi is a fine weapon.
@johndobbie5283 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a sten gun demo in the 50's being fired at about 25 yards at steel plates possibly 6 or 8 inch square and the guy was picking them off one at a time on semi auto.
@MadMadCommando4 жыл бұрын
Can’t you see that the runout on the bore is a feature not a bug? “Eccentric Zeroing”, just turn the barrel for a completely different POI. Very advanced stuff!
@ragnarragnarsson31284 жыл бұрын
Just like the leaky window on Top Gear was a safety feature to keep you awake while driving. 😉
@afroliciouspresents36033 жыл бұрын
By 'free floating' barrel, I don't think they meant for it to float as free as a stoned hippy at Woodstock.
@Rupan-rx4 жыл бұрын
At my clubs zero range we have a giant berm at 185 yards. During real busy times I just shoot the berm. I am good at getting a sight picture and peaking over to see where my shots land. Saves time setting up a 50 yard where am I target. Especially when people shoot the dog crap out of all the target stands. We also do not have designated cold range times. This was awesome, thanks Bloke and Chap!
@petermainwaringsx3 жыл бұрын
I had a STEN as a kid when I gave my pal an Elvis record for it. I never had any ammo (if I had I'd have been too afraid to fire it) and surrendered it at a local police station during an amnesty in about 1960. I used to enjoy stripping it down and rebuilding it.
4 жыл бұрын
We compete with the Swedish K at 100m. Best group I ever saw was ~15cm standing from 100m with sling support only and the Swedish nationals. Edit: 5 shot group and the Swedish K also has a removable barrel that changes poi after removal. Regular sight leaf though.
@kevinroberson1985 Жыл бұрын
My father said put a piece of shim stock thin brass sheet cut to fit a quarter area of the the ring of your barrel the shape of a quarter of a letter C and rotate it until you get it to hit center target like you want it to hit. That will move point of impact. shim stock is very thin and easy to cut with scissors ✂️ and it should work very well
@Xoarkitty4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered trying this will the barrel effectively upside down, so your mark is 180 degrees from where it should be?
@mossgardener29494 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought that!!! 🤔🤔
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent idea--I was trying to ponder why the sights would be set too high given that a full auto Sten would already be climbing off of the target. If anything, you would set the sights up to shoot low in order to compensate a bit.
@georgewashington924 жыл бұрын
I have shot my MK V at the 50m range quite a few times (prone position only) and it is surprisingly accurate. Probably due to the formidable adjustable sights. Something the soviets did always right, even my pps43 made in occupied Leningrad has adjustable sights for individual zeroing.
@edmundcharles52783 ай бұрын
The weight of the 9mm projectile may make an impact difference. I once fired a WW II Walther P38 with 115 grain bullets and I could not get the pistol to print the target at 25 yards, I changed over to 124 grain bullets and it made a world of difference in getting my rounds into the bulls eye of the target.
@tylervasquez16277 ай бұрын
Im supposed to get an semi only pistol grip one on Thursday and iam so excited!
@kevinroberson1985 Жыл бұрын
Hey you have a sten magazine loader also thats a good thing to have it really better than useing just fingers. That loader makes it way more enjoyable.!
@Veritas4194 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a range that nice near my home.
@jameshealy45944 жыл бұрын
"Blocked at semi-auto, back in the day, by the judicious application of welds to the selector" Now that's how it's done! I'm sure there's some American collectors who have now melted due to jealousy. :D Thanks for the video guys.
@DoubleOddJosh4 жыл бұрын
American here and yes, you spit the truth. Where in the world is Bloke on the Range located????
@jameshealy45944 жыл бұрын
@@DoubleOddJosh Switzerland, I'm sure living there has it's downsides but their flag is a big plus.
@DoubleOddJosh4 жыл бұрын
@@jameshealy4594 I should have known, it's one of the best places in Europe to be a gun owner. Cheers from across the pond 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@lordsummerisle874 жыл бұрын
Before 1988, that was considered a perfectly acceptable way of turning a Section 5 (prohibited) full auto in a Section 1 semi-auto rifle (an easy to acquire slot on your FAC) in the UK. Brens often just had their change levers pinned at 'R'. SLRs had the auto notch filled in with weld. Sudanese and Portuguese AR10s (original style, with the trigger shaped cocking handle under the rearsight) were common on the market once their TMH had been fettled. Different times, different attitudes. Gun owners were largely trusted to obey the law. Dodgy pornstaches and aviators abounded at shooting clubs. Plenty of surplus ammo and gats available. Jumpers for goalposts. Tea on the lawn. Labourers doffing their cloth caps when the vicar walked past. Cricket on the village green. Pert, fresh faced young ladies cycling to tennis lessons. Perpetual summer.
@peterclarke72404 жыл бұрын
And then something unfortunate happened and the national mood shifted a smidge. There's little like some absolute goit hauling off and shooting up a town to make the non-gun-owning british public put down their pipes, briefly lower their broadsheets and declare "that's quite enough of that sort of thing, thank you." before returning to the FT.
@snowflakemelter11724 жыл бұрын
The practical test would be snap shooting in bursts on a fig 11 set up to drop if hit and see how effective it is in its role.
@davidbrennan6604 жыл бұрын
Another example of video craft from the Bloke....... great consistent work in the character of the channel.
@mattorama4 жыл бұрын
Some weld on the receiver is what keeps it from going into full auto? Sixty seconds with an angle grinder and I could fix that.
@vaughanerwin71954 жыл бұрын
And if that the day? The cops show up
@snowflakemelter11724 жыл бұрын
The deterrent is the prison sentence if you get caught.
@kevinroberson1985 Жыл бұрын
Try putting your front sight lower in your rear peep sight. Use maybe a third of your front sight sticking up in your rear peep sight hole and when you figure out how high or low to hold your front sight in the rear peep mark it with a line of yellow or white paint in a thin file mark . Or add more metal to the front sight and if it's to much on front sight file it down until you get it right where you want it. Either way will work I'm pretty sure I have set a few of them and sweating a peice of metal on front sight is pretty easy just put wet rags around your tubing and keep it cool and only use silver solder to add a piece of bent metal maybe 1/16th thick. Shoot it and file if necessary to right height and then put flat black paint on it.
@xx38682 жыл бұрын
Probably more suited for a gun fight in a telephone booth!! Hickok's channel had him firing for a couple hundred meters and hitting targets so that was impressive but he had a modern made Sten and maybe its perfectly inline machined? Never jammed once and he was impressed as so cheap and rustic but gets the job done...
@samcleaver33153 жыл бұрын
I did some long range pistol shooting one day ( 200 yards) and my friend could see the bullets path in the spotting scope. I didn't believe him, but it's true. I was able to hit steel rams at 200 yards without a rest with a 44 magnum revoler. This was a sport in the US years ago called silloette shooting. Mind you this was with iron sights, flat on my back, with my pistol against my calf.
@loquat44-404 жыл бұрын
If it was mine, I would mount a red dot sight on the exposed end of the barrel and blue locktite the barrel thread. I think you might get more usable groups.
@AA-dn8dj4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing somebody on the internet say that the test for accuracy for the sten was that on automatic it could put all 32 rounds from a magazine onto a 4 by 4 foot wooden square at 100 meters.
@CL-vz6ch3 жыл бұрын
That's an unrealistic test. MAYBE at 25m...
@dave_h_87422 жыл бұрын
Feet not meters old chap
@kevinroberson1985 Жыл бұрын
P.S love your video keep them coming and good luck for southern Georgia USA.
@HO-bndk4 жыл бұрын
I get the impression from the WW2 training pamphlet that you are supposed to read out the "from 10 yards" bit clearly then the "to up to 100 yards" bit very quickly while hiding it with a cough.
@juggr-naut31964 жыл бұрын
Thats some fine swissgerman right there bloke
@johanlundstrom15614 жыл бұрын
And here I thought hitting the target at 100 m with the Swedish m/45 SMG during my military service was bad...
@jansundvall20822 жыл бұрын
Kpist m/45B is a marksman’s SMG compared to the STEN gun.
@thesheepman2204 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the video, Sten was really intended for CQB or tank and artillery crews looking at its limited range , this why the m1 carbine type weapon would have been a better choice and a effective range of about 300 yards max i did read somewhere atvb Steve
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
No one takes an open bolt Sten into a tank with them it's ludicrously dangerous. Stens were issued to the infantry section commander and the 2IC. The 2IC was the commander of the "gun group" and his job was to spot for the Bren and to defend the flank of the gunner - with the Sten. Artillery crews just had rifles. Nearly all AFVs had a Bren gun as well.
@wcharliewilson70042 жыл бұрын
"Bloody hell! I'm in the next township over. Could ye stop peppering me flat, mate??"
@zachariaszut4 жыл бұрын
7:30 'Gar nüt'. Interesting exercise... but that weapon system strikes me more like a close quarters gun than anything else. Cheers.
@losonsrenoster4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the 9mm x 19 round is not supposed to be all that effective at 100m anyway. Good enough for suppressing fire though, I shall be hesitant to expose any vital parts of myself with those 9mm bullets zipping around my close proximity.
@peterconnan56314 жыл бұрын
What a mission! Just wondering, what happens if you turn the barrel 180 degrees? Does it get better or worse?
@mrcaboosevg60892 жыл бұрын
My grandad was a sharpshooter in the early 50s, he said the only way you'll ever hit anything with a Sten is when they're within punching range
@blackvulcan1004 жыл бұрын
Having fired both the sten and the sterling in my opinion they are only useful at short range ie house clearing.Give me the FN if you really want to damage the enemy.
@quagmire57834 жыл бұрын
Back in the day where i come from the military used these to clear out bunkers/ im from ireland btw
@ngauruhoezodiac31432 жыл бұрын
The Sten is good only at ranges of 50 yards or less. I tried one. I got only 3 hits on the target out of 20 rounds from 150 yards and none of them were in the centre.
@cycadaacolyte63494 жыл бұрын
NCOs were predominantly armed with STENs within regular infantry divisions.
@Parawingdelta22 жыл бұрын
I've only fired the Australian designed Owen and the love child of the Owen and the Stirling; the F1. The Owen was OK; although (from memory) at targets no further than twenty five yards. I made conscious decision that if I were ever to be equipped with the F1 in combat, I would just throw it at the enemy and run away.
@yfelwulf4 жыл бұрын
That's why it was known as the STENCH gun also loved to run away when dropped by tripping the Sear.
@skepticalbadger4 жыл бұрын
True of any open bolt SMG. And could not happen if carried bolt closed in the correct condition.
@cnlbenmc3 жыл бұрын
So the Sten Mk II qualifies as a "Ramirez" Challenge at those aranges?
@JohnEast-b1d2 күн бұрын
Nice gun
@MothaLuva3 жыл бұрын
I guess, by trying to hit something with this at 100 meters one could just safely say the bullets were landing in the same country (provided the shooting range was not close to some border).
@versoarmamentcompany4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@l2a3sterling4 жыл бұрын
Not all Stens were created equal. The Canadian long branch was much tidier and completely made in one factory. I have seen pics of British made Stens with crooked trigger guards as a sample of a Sten made from parts from different shops. Apparently troops were trained with Stens for use in Dieppe raid and when it was postponed and re-planed for a later date, the troops were re-issued new Stens (not broken in). the previously issued Stens had been tested and in some cases gone over by armorers.
@snowflakemelter11724 жыл бұрын
You can't have a "crooked" trigger guard as both ends are positively located within the trigger housing and welded in place . The only way it could be out of shape is by damage after manufacture.
@alsplace41903 жыл бұрын
Sorry watched vid again, got it wrong you need a taller front sight. Sten front sights can be had in different (numbered) heights, a taller front sight will push the poi down at 10yds it may be a + 1/16” which would mean glue the filament on top. Still , show it to a gunsmith (let him fall about laughing) perhaps he can fix your issues(fit a new barrel)
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
The steps between the 3 STEN front sight heights are 3" at 100 feet.
@JM-iu1yg4 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't realize Sten barrels were that hard to come by... I would just throw a fresh Barrel on , I'm sure you can find one as good as new ... I guess you like a challenge, lol....
@SpencerAK74M4 жыл бұрын
They aren't hard to come by at all
@redjoshman4 жыл бұрын
In service, if they had to replace the barrel, how would they go about re-zeroing the weapon?
@BlokeontheRange4 жыл бұрын
With the same gauges I would presume. If they even bothered replacing the barrel and didn't just junk the whole wpn cos they're practically disposable.
@3of114 жыл бұрын
I bet they never replaced a barrel. Pistol bullets just don’t wear out barrels like rifles. As Bloke said toss the gun give another. I bet they all knew they would be scrapping them all as soon as the war was over and a better gun could be made.
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange Yeah, you just get another one. It's a war, there's plenty of extras laying around usually.
@cowstable3 жыл бұрын
Hello Bloke. Great video and surprising accuracy from this much maligned tool. If I may suggest... maybe align the electropencil mark 180degrees different, on the underside of the gun. Reason I say this is, why leave such a crude mark atop a shiny new gun? The perfect horizontal sight alignment, along with the extreme vertical misalignment, says the gun is better made than it appears but also that something is being done wrong, such as a barrel exactly 180 degrees out, thus affecting only elevation zero.
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
Cos the mark is meant to be at 12 o'clock according to the manual, and if you put it at 6 o'clock, it shoots disasterously low (I tried it when I first got it) :D
@theconfidence_lounge2 жыл бұрын
hickock 45 did very well with his ?
@rebralhunter60694 жыл бұрын
WHat are the laws when it comes to open bolts in Switzerland? Are they treating like any closed bolt guns in the same category or are they considered in the restricted category along with full autos?
@thebotrchap4 жыл бұрын
It’s either full auto (restricted) or not. Operating system is irrelevant.
@rebralhunter60694 жыл бұрын
@@thebotrchap thanks for the reply, thats very interesting and makes a lot more sense than the American system.
@garytucker57484 жыл бұрын
Good shooting nice bit of history thanks for sharing.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
If you could find a suitable rifle barrel to lathe down would 7.65 Luger be a possibility? Most .30 ish bullets seem to require around a 1 in 10 twist just like the Luger round?
@ArchieKeen14 жыл бұрын
zoiders would probably work however getting a magazine that would fit and feed correctly would be the hardest part, however the Chinese did convert some stens to use 7.62 Tokarev and use pps43 magazines so it’s not impossible
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
@@ArchieKeen1 7.65 Luger fits in any 9mm Luger magazine. 7.62 Mauser or Tokarev is a different/longer cartridge. 9mm Luger is a 7.65 Luger cartridge necked up to 9mm.
@ArchieKeen14 жыл бұрын
zoiders oh sorry I was getting confused with 7.63 Mauser sorry
@billmccrackin88254 жыл бұрын
Yep, you are just a Nightforce scope away from complete accuracy and precision-at 5-15 yards. Ymmv. Good video! Thanks!
@juststeve55424 жыл бұрын
I did laugh when you showed the sight picture!
@charlesmartel95024 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the barrel index mark would better serve for 200 yard zero!
@jonathandench91024 жыл бұрын
Did the sten not usually be used with mk2 ball which was a hotter 9mm + would that explain the zero
@BlokeontheRange4 жыл бұрын
STEN was used with both mark 1 and mark 2 ball, and also captured ammunition.
@wolfganghuhn77474 жыл бұрын
Your switzerdütsch is adorable
@genericpersonx3334 жыл бұрын
A bit off the video topic, Mr. Bloke, but I am curious if you have any information on how many Swiss men, after they aged-out of service, kept their military-grade weapons. I was just thinking about the situation in 1939-40 when the Landsturm age was pushed up to 60 after many years of being 48. Just how many of those men who had aged-out in 1927-1929 still had their military-grade rifles ready to go in 1940? Did the Swiss have to rush out government reserves to make up for all the old droopy-mustached fellowed who had gotten rid of their old service weapons or did those old boys mostly still pack their old gear? Maybe a topic you can expound upon for us all who want to know more about the mysterious militia of the mountains. Cheers!
@canicheenrage4 жыл бұрын
A complete mystery why the french resistance fighters liked Lee-Enfields, loved Brens and hated Stens.
@JohnHughesChampigny4 жыл бұрын
After the war Stens were used by prison guards and maybe police.
@worldtraveler9304 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Chap could enlighten us? 🤔
@rbm61844 жыл бұрын
@@JohnHughesChampigny JohnHughesChampigny It was used by the Israelis as that is all they could get and make early on in 1945-1948 were British guns. The Israelis made a lot of Stens. It was later replaced by their own UZI.
@snowflakemelter11724 жыл бұрын
They had no choice in the matter.
@malcolmlane-ley20444 жыл бұрын
My Dad was fighting in Palestine in 1947 with his Sten; I asked if he had ever hit anyone with it and his response was "not that I'm aware of". In essence, trying to use a this weapon against a target like you are doing is a ridiculous exercise given it wasn't intended to be effective at anything like that range by design.
@3eightiesopinion5244 жыл бұрын
I remember the sten i shot had probably the 3rd worst trigger ive ever used. (Fie derringer and p64 are worse)
@jamesbromstead49494 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, but did you try shooting with the electro-pencil mark on the bottom?
@tjp3534 жыл бұрын
Would rotating the barrel 180° make things worse or better?
@anthonyfoutch31522 жыл бұрын
I think the Sten was more of a spray and pray weapon. Of course WW2 soldiers were issued new weapons.
@gatlingbert4 жыл бұрын
The spray and pray gun
@The_Greedy_Orphan4 жыл бұрын
How was the sten gun in street battles like Caen though and was it as effective at clearing rooms like the ppsh or the mp40? How did most soldiers effectively use the sten?
@JohnyG294 жыл бұрын
I'd have thought it would be exactly the same in a room clearing capacity as an mp40. Both used 9mm I think.
@wierdalien14 жыл бұрын
@@KeterMalkuth i mean its an MP4 that had an unfortunate incident in an alleyway and Picasso
@wierdalien14 жыл бұрын
@uncletigger yes
@gwtpictgwtpict42144 жыл бұрын
@uncletigger Think @Alistair Shaw was actually agreeing with you, the Sten was 'good enough'.
@zoiders4 жыл бұрын
The Sten and the MP40 effectively have the same magazine give or take a mag catch cut out position so both guns suffer from the problems caused by double stack/single feed magazines. Room to room they are functionally no different. The single biggest improvement to reliability is the magazine, which was addressed in the Sterling and its prototypes. Prior to deployment to Normandy British and Commonwealth troops carried out extensive live fire exercises. Faulty mags were discarded. They knew what was coming and prepared accordingly.
@kristerforsman24484 жыл бұрын
When I did military service in the 60's, we trained single shots at a distance of 100 meters. It was with m / 45 Carl Gustaf submaskingun 9mm. Mostly everyone hit the target in the black field without difficulty. We were 19-20 year old lads who did 1 year of military service. No elite soldiers just ordinary conscripts. I guess Carl Gustaf m/45 was a much better gun.
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
Yes, a much better weapon. The Stens were wartime expediency.
@thatonecamel4 жыл бұрын
Wait , the only thing keeping it semi is a weld 🤔
@RpattoYT4 жыл бұрын
This issue you're having with this non-concentric barrel is curious. Is there to your knowledge any small arms that take advantage of such an effect and incorporated this into the gun mechanism for say adjusting zero?
@bb52423 жыл бұрын
It's not a desirable quality.
@annairinastoll29604 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful to hear bloke speak Swiss German xD
@kclaptraffic4 жыл бұрын
I wish we could leave them as open bolt in the us, we have to buy an expensive closed bolt setup to build one. If we could just weld the selector it would be hundreds of dollars cheaper to build.
@535tony3 жыл бұрын
The reason you can't just weld the selector for a Sten is that you can buy a $5 part and turn it into a full auto part in about five minutes with a file. You could then install that part in less then a minute and have a full auto Sten. Replace the original part and you have a semi auto sten.
@louisvanrijn39642 жыл бұрын
295st comment. With a standard UZI, on semi auto, we could do groups of 30 cm diameter on 100 m. Every guy of my peleton achieved that.
@andrewsutton70074 жыл бұрын
...where are you shooting? Range location?
@Strongpoint1003 жыл бұрын
The swiss german caught me off guard lol Wohnsch du i de schwiiz?
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
Ja genau. Das sott klar sii :D
@normmcrae11404 жыл бұрын
My Dad (WW2 Vet) said that you "kind of point it in the general direction of the Germans and sprayed it"...... LMAO
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr4 жыл бұрын
Its easy to tell if you have hit your target. The bugger stops shooting at you.
@rubennasser69074 жыл бұрын
Holy crap... how does a STEN group at 50 yds?
@peteraugust52953 жыл бұрын
Some guys in Bern are probably still hiding in their nuclear bunkers since those rounds impacted in their kitchen windows.
@wolfganghuhn77472 жыл бұрын
Das switzerdütsch ist süss
@paddyglenny2 жыл бұрын
Dear Bloke, what language were you speaking to friend in?
@BlokeontheRange2 жыл бұрын
Swiss German (specifically Bernese)
@baobo674 жыл бұрын
Where term "spray and pray" came from.
@vaughanerwin71954 жыл бұрын
Some barrels were 1 piece There are different front sight 3 I think the best were canadian made some had pins that held the barrel nut to the barrel so it would go on in mostly the same place or had pin drilled into the barrel frm the recever tube the sten gun is the #1 illegal gun in Canada then FN ak & the other 1 you are know
@donaldconnolly2202 жыл бұрын
You might try firing United States grease gun up alongside of a sten
@donjones57932 жыл бұрын
I wish you would’ve had a scope handy when you Shot the sterling
@Bethlehemthesavage4 жыл бұрын
How do u have these in the eu?
@Britiswitz4 жыл бұрын
Not in the EU.
@johnnygooch83614 жыл бұрын
No wonder this guy left the homeland. Getting caught in possession of that thing in Brittanica would result in some serious judiciary book throwing.
@peterclarke72404 жыл бұрын
Only if you don't have the correct license, which is true in most countries. Of course, in the UK, getting the correct license in the first place is the tricky bit.
@CactusforceX4 жыл бұрын
I'd be so tempted to take a dremel to that selector switch and go down the range on a quiet day... why cant us brits have any fun?
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle2 жыл бұрын
Two reasons. 1. There were a couple of twats that gave the government an excuse to disarm folks. 2. Since 1917 the government has not wanted an armed population.
@notsoserious09443 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out if it is steam punk or not. It has a sort of hand-made Pakistani-mud hut roughness but it was a full auto sub of the XXth century. I notice a lot of government arsenal produced Lee Enfield rifles are quite roughly finished however well they perform. Maybe it's a cultural thing. The Swiss or Germans wouldn't stand for it. Even the American arsenal rifles were actually pretty nice.
@MrSiestaFiesta4 жыл бұрын
Is that a single feed mag? Was the bolt changed?
@3of114 жыл бұрын
Sten has Always been a single feed mag. Sterling is double
@michaelreeves81643 жыл бұрын
An old uncle of mine fought in WW2 and he said the Sten was made a cost of 10 shillings and sixpence. A weapon made for this price has to be an inaccurate device.
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
They weren't made for 10 shillings and sixpence... There's no exact figure, and it will have varied, but somewhere around the £5 mark seems about right. Maybe as low as £3 for the Mk.III's, but that would surprise me somewhat...