A 1911 that Takes Sig P320 Magazines: The Oracle Arms 2311

[@zombieslayer7759]

I really hope this pistol turns out to be very good. This thing has the potential to be a game changer.

[@SuperTrb0]

Unfortunately it doesn’t live up to the hype. The trigger was terrible. I’m not sure why but at $1,700 to $3,000, that alone is unacceptable. I also question its long term durability. I’d really like to see some hard use testing. I get the impression parts breakages are going to be a thing and when you have a gun full of proprietary parts, that is a problem. It reminds me of the Hudson pistols, lots of marketing, not much substance.

[@petergozinya6122]

How is this a game changer ? Is it much different or better than Sig 226/229 SAO ? Or how bout the just released Beretta 92 xi ? CZ P07/P09 with the SAO Omega trigger ? Cool looking gun ? Yes Game changer ? I think not.

[@JimmySilverFoot]

Lol. Username checks out.

[@fw1421]

Yea,and it’s gonna cost a fortune!

[@abc4781]

Lol what about it is a game changer?

[@stevebutters306]

Good thing it's ambidextrious, I was worried it would just be regular ambidextrous.

[@skepticalbadger]

Annoys the shit out of me.

[@frankfreda8570]

No need to go nuculer dude..

[@stevebutters306]

@@frankfreda8570 AAAAAAAA

[@JimYeats]

Thank you. Immediately looked for this comment.

[@stevebutters306]

@Oracle Arms the gun's pretty cool to be fair lol

[@MojoSoDope90]

This is actually a solid concept. Hope it works out. I’d like one for sure

[@3wheelmannc860]

Those Oracle offerings look amazing. Once durability and dependability are proven, I would definately add one to the top of my must have guns.

[@Lawlzinator]

You can't have a TFB james video without a gun over $1500

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

That’s what some of us are shopping for.

[@tugarin2345]

When your cheap guns break when you need them you’ll wish you bought that H&K or B&T.

[@SFGiantsfan9797]

@@MrMann-gt1eh rather take my chances with the FN 545 45 ACP 18 magazine handgun that’s $1100

[@Omar20v]

Imagine being poor 🥳

[@tugarin2345]

@@parttimecripple H&Ks customer service is top notch, and H&Ks don’t “brake” cars and trucks brake.

[@adamxiong1817]

The Oracle 2311 is by far the best pistol that has debuted so far in 2023. I want this more than the STI 2011.

[@docgillygun9531]

I really hope this catches on. They seem to be working real hard to promote this. I hope they get into smaller carry options.

[@azrazerz1445]

Their compact model at 4.25in wouldn’t be bad to carry! Excited to see if they can go even smaller in the future without compromising too much on reliability or deviating too far from the 2011 pattern

[@stararker]

Let me say that this gun looks amazing and will probably be an awesome firearm. I plan on buying one when they become available. I am being critical of the company because it needs work. Their presentation to the public seems lacking. Their website was blank on the first day of Shot Show which is a big no no in 2023. Your website is your company and if yours is blank it doesn't inspire confidence(they did update it with an info sheet but that still a bit underwhelming). They said Initially on day one of the show they would be launching in May, but now it's late May early June according to them as stated in another video from their booth. They've said that what we are looking at is a 95 percent finished prototype. So you mean to tell me that you are gonna finish the prototype, finalize all the design elements, start manufacturing and assembly; all while having a reasonable number of guns to sell when you officially start selling this gun by May or June. I'm not saying it's not possible but the cumulation of statements made in all the videos I've watched make it seem like they are flying by the seat of their pants rather than having a development timeline. Not to make a pun but don’t shoot yourself in the foot by not being realistic with your possible new customers. If the gun isn’t going to be available till november to the mass of people that really want to buy your product then just say that. No one would be upset waiting but if you tell us late May early June and don’t deliver it's another story. I want them to succeed and regardless of me being keyboard warrior say all this on the internet I’m sure they will. Hopefully I can provide some no bullshit honest feedback though..

[@rudukai13]

We need a comparison review between this and the DWX, since they’re such similar ideas. 1911 trigger system with a modern duty pistol magazine system. Really hoping this spawns a completely new market segment of hybrid 1911/X-style guns

[@erik22lax]

$1,700-$3k. That is a big range in price. Looks awesome though and would definitely like to try it out. 👍

[@joshfelton7652]

$1.7-$3k is the range of the line. The polymer models are expect to be under $2k whereas the high end competition model is expected to retail at $3k.

[@shazmodeus2795]

i saw their price sheet on another channel, the compact (4.25" barrel) is $1700 polymer and $2000 for the aluminum elite; the combat (5" barrel) is $2200 polymer and $2600 for the aluminum elite; the competition is $3000, only 1 model of that.

[@sammyg4806]

It is not a bad deal, especially if you already have plenty of 320 mags to spare. This could be my first 1911, seems like an attractive option.

[@thenricks5063]

considering theyre targeting the staccato consumer, this price isnt bad.

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

Standard prices for high end options these days.

[@82lowe36id]

The weak point for me on the 1911 double stack design is the insane mag prices and Oracle has sovled that. I am very interested for sure. Thank you for going series 70 and no grip safety.

[@fa-ajn9881]

When the DWX has immediate competition lol. Good for them.

[@coles.1524]

Except the DWX is coming from a bigger and more reputable company.

[@fa-ajn9881]

@coles.1524 no doubt about that. Been waiting for the DWX for years disappointed there's no compact model ready to go like this company. Either way nice to see more in this space.

[@SeekerOfTheosis]

I’d take the dwx over this any day

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

@@coles.1524 …out of NY. They won’t be getting my money until they move.

[@GBGuns]

I hope they finish this project. The samples were promising.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Also at SHOT show, Amend2 and Strike Industries announced they'll be making P320 magazines, polymer from Amend2 and steel from Strike. Hopefully they're decent, P320 mags are cheaper than a 2011 mag, but they could still stand to be more affordable.

[@Killjoy.Z]

Aaaaaand my Staccato purchase has just paused

[@fullmindstorm]

What a nice concept. Oracle won me over with this design. I want one.

[@1014p]

Pretty cool update to the 1911, its a true step forward in many ways I think.

[@scottwatrous]

I definitely don't hate it. Take the excellent 1911 trigger and overall form factor and dump basically all the other legacy stuff for modern setups. Plus with SIG mags I could see some mil adoption.

[@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere]

Okay, this. This right here is my Shot Show 2023 Want

[@Centermass762]

I actually really like this. I hope it's reliable and comes out at a decent price.

[@craigjohnson775]

James looks like he is having alcohol withdrawal. Get this man a white claw

[@MF-Rell]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mr.spoonu2d870]

"Hey guys it's James with Truly Freezing Balls TV"

[@never2be07]

2311 was my kick ass MOS in the Corps "field ammunition technician"

[@hkfifty871]

I love ALMOST everything about this. Common magazine compatibility (obviously we’d all prefer Glock mags, but p320 mags are solid, widely available, still MUCH cheaper than 2011 mags and are likely to drop in price as more people get into making them), simplified takedown, fully ambidextrous, optics ready (kind of a given in 2023, but still good to see they’re not foregoing it), eliminating the grip safety, the potential to use a standard 2011 slide on their lower (though I’m a bit wary of that “with a bit of work” part), all terrific decisions IMHO. The points I’m more iffy on- the price (granted, it’s in the double stack 1911 segment of the market, so it’s not crazy, but for a newcomer we’ve never heard of, with unknown quality control and reliability… I’m a bit hesitant) and proprietary parts (they were smart enough to keep the trigger standard, but I still prefer the flexibility of standardized parts for replacement or repair. And hopefully on a $1700+ gun, the trigger is good enough that most of us wouldn’t WANT to change it). Fingers crossed the launch goes well and they’re well made. It has strong potential to be a GREAT pistol (definitely the product I’m most interested in from SHOT show so far) and if this is any indication of what Oracle brings to the table, I hope this is a huge success for them. I’d love to see what else they can do down the road. But we’ll see what reviews say when it comes out.

[@Glock7eventeen]

P320 mags are much better than Glock mags. The only reason why people like Glock mags is because it’s cheap and you can find them for $20. P320 mags cost around $50, still expensive but way cheaper than 2011 mags.

[@definitelyadarkangel9225]

The price point is amazing, this will be a fine addition to my collection

[@iowa_lot_to_travel9471]

The oracle looks into the future. The oracle says make the purchase.

[@DrakeWind]

Love the simple takedown. My biggest dislike of 1911's is the non captive spring and locking lug setup. I hope more companies start to offer 1911 with this more simple and modern setup.

[@jrloman]

Bull barrel and there are guide rod options out there for 1911s for these features. They are more prevalent on 2011/double stack 9 mil guns.

[@imkeerock]

Awesome looking gun. Looking forward to this one.

[@MarkBadia]

Since they were changing the mechanism to break down the pistol why couldn’t they have made it a captive pin so if you were field stripping you don’t run the risk of misplacing that retention pin. Also add about the 57 second mark, there’s a view of the pistol with the slide locked back. The barrel seems really straight for a 1911. Does it not use the browning tilting barrel operating model?

[@joeb2526]

As a lefty this is awesome!!!

[@sheldoniusRex]

More of this. The Sig M17 mag needs to become the universal standard nao.

[@trashcompactorYT]

Weird thing to admire I know but the little music sting on the 5.11 intro is so sick

[@MSSynsyterGates]

I want one of these. I was so disappointed with the Springfield Prodigy. I have so many 320 mags too. Though you know that price is going to be steep.

[@kompletevisionentertainmen371]

Thanks for covering this

[@killervztwogaming5796]

Say it with me everyone... AMBI-DEX-TRUSS not AMBI-DEX-TREE-US Thats your lesson for the day.

[@MF-Rell]

Lol

[@The_PotionSeller]

So it's fixed the issue with 2011's having piss poor magazines. It's intriguing

[@m.w.2401]

They don't if you actually bother to get good ones.

[@The_PotionSeller]

@@m.w.2401 magazines are consistently the number 1 cause of malfunctions with 2011s. Ditching the goofy design parameters of them is the best thing you can do with the platform

[@tobywonkinoby8916]

I like it. Can’t wait to see some reviews.

[@mtiger5]

I’d like to see a comparison video with oracle and Vudoo’s double stack 9

[@MyLonewolf25]

I hope this catches on That or they make one that uses beretta mags! 2011 mags cost way too dam much. Also the ambi controls are awesome. I just wish it wasn’t so dam expensive because this is a awesome development

[@triggerfingerstudios]

How many syllables are in the word ambidextrous?

[@astrodudepsu]

Four. Aka one fewer than a lot of people think.

[@Yellow_Flannel]

Ambidexteriousnessed

[@V1kingBro]

How long till the longslide with a threaded barrel comes out??

[@leroyjenkins4811]

These seem like they could be really good guns. They’re based around a reliable magazine design. The interchangeable polymer and aluminum grip modules sound cool. If the guns work reliably, they could be some serious competition for Staccato. One of the biggest complaints you see with 2011’s is the magazines. The magazines don’t run reliably and they’re hella expensive. This could be a solution to that problem. The price tiers are good too. Now, all they have to do is make sure they make the guns available and produce enough to meet demand and they’ll be golden.

[@calholli]

Now this is a "2011 style setup that I could get behind.

[@Lancersilva]

I hope it ends up being as good as it looks. And it looks cool.

[@fudgerounds91]

A 2011 with Sig mags that takes down like a CZ 75? Sounds interesting.

[@MrGhjkl63]

I hope they come out with a version that looks more like a normal 2011

[@BenRivered]

Lots of info there. Would love to see a slower, more detailed description, specs, etc.

[@soap6416]

Finally, a 2011 for left-handed shooters

[@iansanchez331]

Stop being left handed

[@GiveMeThatCake]

Someone please tell this man ambidextrious isn't a word

[@centermass4962]

I can see your teeth chattering man. Thanks for your dedication to get us this awesome content. Dude i love the fact they did away with that damn grip saftey.

[@newguy9858]

Will any models be steel frame and slide or only aluminum?

[@jado4149]

For those who like the 320 grip, this should be a hit but if you're used to and like the 1911/2011 grip, it's a miss. Linkless 1911's are softer to shoot than linked so that's a plus. It is good to see new designs in the market regardless.

[@steakwilliams4448]

This is what I'm excited for most

[@thestandardmanual3446]

Looks awesome 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@tuberaider]

I'm glad this gun is so _ambidextrious_ , but is that giant magwell removable?

[@noonespecial9840]

I'll be happy to be a test mule if Oracle needs some outside perspective. Sign me up!

[@THEMilkSHAIKH]

Cool to see a IT Cloud Infrastructure company getting into firearms.

[@chgofirefighter]

Would've been nice with a bull barrel to add a bit of more weight to the front muzzle area due to the fact judging by what is viewed on the videos, she jumps (recoils) quite a bit...

[@scottwatrous]

"Can we get more Dugan Ashley videos?" "No, We have Dugan at home" Dugan at home:

[@a1racer441]

I like it all but the price think it was 2k to 3k depending on model, but I’m hoping it brings some change to the 2011 market of guns.

[@seandurns110]

Sounds like a 2011 but without all the things that I don’t like about 2011s. Appealing.

[@newpeupyoass]

Woah, is that a fixed cam path on a 1911 barrel?

[@Highgear145]

On my wish list...I'm so glad someone made a 2011 with no grip safety

[@daver12591]

Why does everyone hate grip safeties so much? If you're holding the pistol in such a fucked up way that you can't actuate the grip safety, how do you expect to make decent shots in the first place?

[@brodyscarlett5527]

Wish they went with glock mags since you can get 140mm mags super cheap, but sig mags are still cheaper than MBX 2011 mags.

[@MyLonewolf25]

Glock mags won’t work. Too far up top

[@theiviachine]

Hope this thing works. Bc this the only 1911 I would ever buy

[@MrDerushingo]

LOVE the lack of a grip safety. I never really understood why there aren't more 1911/2011 without one. Porpably because people who don't like it usually just take a CZ. But i find it even more useless than the AR forward assist.

[@crazysilly2914]

You can't have a TFB james video with a gun less than $1500...

[@l337l0gan]

In this interview he didn't talk about the debris channel/ relief cuts internally. Suppossedly it will make the gun more reliable in the face of dirt and muck and grime and carbon build up

[@evosolutionsllc.910]

What a Frankenstein masterpiece.

[@EricPardo]

Worth the investment for sure

[@SuperSneakySniper]

Oh cool, an ambi slide stop! Now I can not reach the slide release with my left hand too!

[@mortem-tyrannis]

Does it have an ambidextrous trigger?

[@deerstrike1050]

Calibers? I'm assuming just 9mm to start. But 320 is in 10 and 45 now?

[@wanghuenglo5408]

Wonder how it compares to staccato..

[@jeffreydawson4520]

I dig it.

[@BB-yh5rd]

I've been bellyaching about lack of innovation for a year, I stand corrected. 1911 best platform in my opinion 112 years straight especially for those of us who aren't professional marksmen, if this shoots like one I may have to risk divorce and pick one up.

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

Ambi-DEX-TROUS Ambidextrous. Dextrous. Dexterity. Having dexterity with both hands.

[@breaux2806]

Do they make a simpler looking 2311? I like the idea but I don't like the tacticool style slide

[@breaux2806]

@@jacobjohnson6766 call me a fud if you want but I just don't like how it looks. Love the function, but it looks too much like it came out of a video game. It could even be less expensive without all the needless design choices having to be milled in.

[@rudukai13]

YESSS

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

pretty cool but i perfer my gun to have rear sights and a red dot. that looks like you have to remove the rear sights to put on the red dot.

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

@Oracle Arms except there are no rear sights on that gun. there's a front sight and a red dot.

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

@Oracle Arms how queer. okay I checked out your website, I see what you're saying now. I'm now interested in these.

[@robertsimmons1653]

No threaded barrel options?

[@robertsimmons1653]

@Oracle Arms Then this will hopefully be the best gun of 2023. I can't wait to get one.

[@adammorgan7874]

Finally a 1911 I can get behind.

[@sealove79able]

A great video and a nice pistol too it seems.

[@thereloadingcloset7487]

Y'all just out Staccato'd Staccato

[@MrTypath]

Is this gun a DA/SA? 1911 are just SA guns right?

[@MrKingArthurhk]

James wears shorts and then complains that it’s cold.

[@PVTHighspeed]

This guy is definitely wearing a tactical banana hammock. The other guy is trying to sell us a gun. 🤨

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

Holy crap I was wondering why this had not happened

[@trevorcoyle517]

I'm kinda interested to see a 1911 slide on this thing

[@emmw7794]

I love this. Sig is taking over the industry. Still for SA guns, I'd rather that new Beretta 92 XI

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

Beautiful looking guns. I'm still looking at them Springfield prodigy though.

[@sergeantwolf8018]

I have heard that the 5" has some issues due to the slide weight and recoil spring (I could be wrong). I think the short barreled ones are better, but still not there. Honest Outlaw seemed to have a few problems, but it could be just because it was an early production handgun

[@coles.1524]

@@sergeantwolf8018 I think they’ve determined that the problems have been the magazines. I decided to roll the dice on a 4.25” and immediately bought a couple staccato magazines. It’s been flawless with those mags on everything from cheapy 115 grain steel to hot nato ammo to 150 grain subs.

[@sergeantwolf8018]

@@coles.1524 That's good to know

[@borism68]

This is a big leap if they make it reliable (and I don’t see why it wouldn’t be)

[@ROYZARMY]

Looks dope asf

[@Tman2bard]

I think I would have been happier with Glock mags, but this is a nice idea overall. really like the ambi switch

[@Tman2bard]

@Oracle Arms well shit, can't fault me for wanting. Either way, neat stuff

[@Glock7eventeen]

@Oracle Arms glock mags are inferior too, even if it would fit. P320 mags are way better

[@myusername3689]

A cheap 9mm double stack 1911 that uses Beretta 92 magazines would be interesting.

[@TheLazyLabrador]

Cool shit ain’t cheap, cheap shit ain’t cool.

[@fairplayer916]

@@TheLazyLabrador high point yc9. and the 10mm they lovingly call the "yc10"

[@Bigbigpoopi]

Beretta made a 92 SAO now with the vertec grip and frame safety

[@myusername3689]

@@Bigbigpoopi 92XI

[@myelling7773]

Doesn't look like James without the short shorts.

[@albertoriviera8616]

Damn that seems like a sweet package

[@DurgenzBallPeh]

So there's a 1911, a 2011, and now a Sig P32011

[@kenstirling5348]

I don’t understand why people think the grip safety will kill you, like how do you shoot the gun without gripping it anyway

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

The older grip safety was more prone to not engage, so enlarged beavertails became common aftermarket mods and eventually factory parts. If you have a textbook grip you'll never fail to engage it, if you have to whip it out in an emergency and grip it with subpar form, you may fail to press it down. In the old days dudes would tape down the grip safety to always have it deactivated.