A 2023 Look at the Gaggia Classic Pro & Rancilio Silvia E V6 | Comparison

[@aidandalgliesh7750]

Hi Pedro, I have had a Rancilio Silvia for 20 years and it is still going strong, so I can testify to its robustness. I also run a Rancilio Rocky grinder that I bought at the same time. I am a customer of yours and have been sourcing my spare parts from you for the Silvia for the past few years. With a bit of regular maintenance and a disciplined cleaning regime, I wouldn't be surprised if the set up lasts forever, or at least my lifetime. Very happy with the service I get from your company. Keep up the good work!

[@danjv]

Thanks for the comparison Pedro. I got a new GCP two years ago. I wanted the most for my hard earned money. The Gaggia was the clear choice for me. I spent a couple of years researching new espresso machines. You and your contemporaries really helped me make my decision. Keep up with the great content.

[@Jaroslav.]

I’m feeling nostalgic all of a sudden 😊 Loved the V6, such a lovely machine.

[@eduardorocha2860]

There's a new Gaggia Classic pro 2023 model. Did you use it for this comparison?

[@ganbly]

Its called the Gaggia Classic Evo, I think they use in this video the 2019 model classic pro...

[@PeterDoughman]

If Gaggia updated the Classic Pro with a PID and slightly larger boiler whilst keeping the price about the same, it would be such a deal for those getting into specialty home coffee.

[@CoffeePartsTV]

I agree, and a serviceable steam valve! Either way, still think its a great entry machine into home espresso, and always performs better than I expect (considering price etc)

[@mannyr8795]

Wet dream, they aren’t gonna add PID and not hike the price significantly

[@kstessel1]

I agree but I believe they can raise the price and still sell alot.

[@sleepygummy7816]

Great comparison. I was looking for these two machines before I decided to get GCP. The reasons are - in my country, there is no service center for these two brands, and only one distributor for Gaggia, which offers warranty and provides parts for repair. - Also, the price difference is around $300 in my country. Meaning that I can get a decent grinder at that price range.

[@woxiduswoxidus1167]

But if you had plans to own silvia 10+ years this difference cost just 30 bucks per year, almost nothing

[@anthonytorgerson4175]

Great video. Would you recommend the Silvia with PID or the breville bariata pro for a first espresso machine?

[@robertharnden5472]

This is where I am, but with the GCP

[@playnicegames]

Love these videos, could you review the La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II please?

[@JohnDoe-kl8cd]

I have the Rancilio Silvia V2 (with some upgrades) and it hasn't failed me once in 10 years. Haven't needed to replace anything that i didn't choose too. Also here in US lots of aftermarket accessories to really make it your "own".

[@10jsfvideo44]

Nice comparison. My only suggestion was to add the steaming comparison. Many consumers buying either of these are also looking to make milk drinks. I understand the GCP is much quicker to steaming than the Rancilio.

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

I don't like saying which one is better. I shopped and bought the gaggia and a Silvia Rocky grinder so they got my business. I'm happy with my purchases. And enjoy them everyday.

[@tomscott4438]

In the “bang for the buck” category the Gaggia wins hands down. In the US, the Silvia is $865 while the Gaggia Evo Pro is $499, but is currently on sale for $399. With that much of a price gap they really shouldn’t even be in the same conversation… but they are.

[@earnado]

This is the only espresso machine compared to thousands of dollar machines. this is not a coincidence. indeed gaggia could make this machine the best selling machine in the world right now but for some reason they don't think about it. We all know that adding a pid and bar indicator will increase sales. I think, this is the most stable machine ever made in terms of price performance, we all know this day. Congratulations to the gaggia brand, but I really want them to know that they missed this marketing opportunity.

[@coolkid111111100]

There is a 125 dollar difference between both machines so would make sense to go with the rancilio as it has a bigger boiler and powerful steam wand

[@coolkid111111100]

Compared with the new Gaggia classic pro model

[@tomscott4438]

Where? In the US the Silvia is $849. The new Gaggia Evo Pro has an SRP of $499 to $549, but is currently on sale for $399. Even at full retail, the Silvia is $300 more.

[@coolkid111111100]

@@tomscott4438 in Australia the new is $949 and the rancilio is $1139

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

I love my gaggia. There both great.

[@phillipzx3754]

The Silvia cost (almost) twice that of the Gaggia, so I would hope it's the better machine.

[@melonmelon7427]

Only £100-150 difference in the UK. For this difference I believe it’s worth spending more for the Rancilio.

[@phillipzx3754]

@@melonmelon7427 "Only." It's such a big word for having only 4 letters. A Classic Pro is $439.00 vs $865.00 at the place I buy my gear (Whole Latte Love). Which is why I said "almost." Can we call my "almost" and your "only," a draw? 😀 I have a 1995 "Gaggia Espresso" with a STM32 (Gaggiuino) mod and the Classic Pro pressure release valve (The Gaggia Espresso and the Classic are the same machines minus the 3-way valve) that would give a Silva a good run for the money. 😇 I'm not fond of the "industrial" look of the Silva or the Classic/Classic Pro. So I found an old Gaggia Espresso (used) for $25 and rebuilt it to act as if it's a Classic Pro.

[@melonmelon7427]

@@phillipzx3754 you make a good point! I am in the market for my first ever coffee machine. I never owned even a coffee filter so I’m trying to do my research and from what I see online, gaggia is more popular but it seems the silvia is a better build. In the UK the Gaggia is £450 and the Silvia £570-600. For this price difference (and considering it will be my first time purchasing a coffee machine at the age of 34) I was thinking I may go with the Silvia. The new gaggia classic pro from what I understand is not as well built as the older gaggia models so you might have bought yourself a little gem. The home coffee machine situation seems so complicated, it’s hard to make up my mind! And that’s before I even get to the grinder saga. Speaking of which, from your experience, is a grinder necessary considering I come from drinking instant coffee (thus nowhere close to a coffee aficionado - my standards are pretty low) 😅

[@phillipzx3754]

@@melonmelon7427 A good grinder is mandatory for espresso.

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

There both great machines if your making back to back milk get the Sylvia. I sold mine bought the gaggia I absolutely love it. It's just me I drink espresso my wife the occasional cappuccino. For me the gaggia works better. Sylvia water resivor and drip tray atr a pain great machine besides that. I don't think the build quality is any different. There both built like a tank. It's all preference with these two. But what do I know. They both make great espresso.

[@JohnSmith-bn7bl]

the V6 is great, just dont make the mistake i did, and get the E auto cut off version.... get the manual version.

[@BlissfulGardening15]

I got the Silvia V4 with PID for $450

[@CoffeePartsTV]

Thats a great deal!

[@BlissfulGardening15]

@@CoffeePartsTV yeah I think so too. PID really help beginners like me dial in the espresso fast. One button to do everything once temp is set.

[@woxiduswoxidus1167]

Strange comparison , without making coffee for two cups in row....especially steaming milk fight to show differencies

[@sabrinafields9395]

Gaggia🎉

[@evakeizers9670]

The Sllvia has already been on the market for 25 years and really nothing has been changed except for some mimor updates. That clumsy driptray is so irrating.

[@Todd.T]

If they were the same price, you'd be getting a Silvia. A PID modded Silvia allows for even better steam performance and it is already better than the Gaggia. The drip tray might suck, but I don't taste that in the cup. If I'm limited by dollars, I'm not going to compare the GCP and the Silvia, it doesn't make sense. The Silvia doesn't look or feel like a toy and when the machine is hot, the stability is fantastic. The portafilter is the samw quality as anything top of the line from any brand. You don't have to hold the machine from the top when you lock it in, because the machine has the weight to let you twist the filter in. Seriously, these comparisons just make some people feel better about not spending the money. The Silvia doesn't stand a chance against the Profitec GO and those two are way closer in price. Compare the GCP to a Lelit Anna or something else. The Silvia is more durable and has incredible steaming power to the point where it is difficult to use. The Silvia has a real steam wand. Steam first and then pull a shot will shorten the wait times.

[@DNA2000-8bit]

That boiler explanation made zero sense. FYI.

[@dejedejsson]

In stock design, both of these models are outdated, and with either aluminum bolier or brass boiler both belong to the dump.

[@martinkulik9466]

Which ones r with stainless steel and no e61

[@dejedejsson]

@@martinkulik9466 If you care about your health, then buy a machine with SS boiler, a cheap alternative is e.g. ECP3420(35.31 in EU). If you don't think a 3420 is fancy enough for you, then buy an E61.

[@martinkulik9466]

@@dejedejsson e61 not for me. Too much iron. That delonghi better

[@ArnieRodriguez]

which is aluminum and whats wrong with copper? what do you suggest thats healthier but with good quality espresso?