A $5 Fix for CPU Temperatures

[@AgentTex13]

I think the AM5 Contact frame is worth it solely for the fact that it will keep most of the thermal paste out from the weird shape of the CPU

[@11KAB11]

I bought it for the thermal paste clean up and it just looks better haha. So satisfying to install.

[@jamesbyrd3740]

you can use a pad or the noctua am5 solution, a thin plastic shim

[@AndrewB23]

Nope

[@tyson8585]

Don't know why people care about thermal paste getting in those nooks. As long as the surface is clean it doesnt matter and hidden anyway...

[@JuneyP17]

@@tyson8585 Because cleanliness/ocd. i can throw clothes under my bed, i wont see it and i can walk around my room just fine, but its not clean and i like clean

[@hwi7114]

I installed a Thermalright contact frame on my 12th gen, definitely helped. The fact that I got it for $10 and it's super easy to install make it a no brainer.

[@richardfarmer6570]

Same, I figured at that price was worth giving it a try.

[@jm9371]

Same deal here. My 12700K averages 4-5C lower with my NHD-15 on standard TDP settings. However, I can still hit thermal throttle when I crank things to max.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Same, Have on a 12700KF and 12900KF builds. Cheap and easy.

[@asysjr]

and it will prevent the CPU to get a permanent bend over time. I use one of these in 13700k

[@michaelcontreras890]

@Hardware Canucks Thank you for taking the time to obtain the 7 mm Offset Brackets from Noctua and running these tests, As I stated in your previous video comments; for me they made a Huge difference on my NH-U12A and I'm glad you took the time to showcase this AM5 Hidden Gem.

[@maozedowner5915]

Gamers Nexus tested both Thermalright's and Thermal Grizzly's contact frame and they saw a way bigger temperature diff of 8 degrees on the 12900k. The one from TR actually performed slightly better than the one from TG and they cost a tenth of the TG one.

[@kotztotz3530]

From my own testing using the Thermalright contact frame, I found about a 7C difference on my 12700K with a low profile ID-COOLIING IS-55. Pretty insane difference when only paying $10.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

TR doesn't charge a ricer tax like TG does. TG is like the weathertech of Thermal Paste, their profit margins are insane because they charge 20 dollars for a tiny tube of paste when you have much cheaper alternatives that do the same.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Like I said, the reaction will differ based on CPUs and situations. I would say however that 8 degrees is excessively high if they used it under normal circumstances.

[@wildgg]

@@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep they also make everything in house in germany, it's expensive.

[@Fate025]

Thermal Grizzly is a German company and we are paying for their wages and higher material and shipping cost. TG also has nicer packaging. So if you don't feel like contributing to that, sure no problems. ThermalRight from China is here to serve our needs.

[@DunceRuleZ12]

I used the LGA1700 contact frame when I was building a family PC for my brother, as I was building them a PC with a 12th Gen Intel CPU in a SFF case. As far as I know, neither my brother nor his wife know too much about computers aside from basic use and a bit of gaming, so I opted to get the contact frame to remove temps as a factor. From my testing before I shipped it off to them, the CPU temps were well within the acceptable range. That particular PC was quite the learning experience for me, and I'm pretty darn proud of what I've accomplished during the building process.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Have used 2 contact frames LGA1700, 12700KF and 12900KF both are performing well air cooled, TR PA120SE & TR PS120 respectively. Am proud of the builds, cooler mounting is still annoying but am getting better each time doing it becomes more natural.

[@aaronhopkins7354]

A couple thoughts: 1. It would be interesting to see frequencies / Cinebench scores for the before and after on these. See how much the temperature differences make there. 2. Regarding the AM5 contact frame. I recall hearing, around the time AM5 came out, that AMD had said that would be unnecessary because they solved the mounting pressure vs. Intel.

[@OneShotCS]

I mean it wouldn't hurt to have it still, right?

[@nordvestgaming1238]

@@OneShotCS No, you just won't really see any benefit to thermals but it also won't harm them.

[@bocahdongo7769]

They solve it by just not making the entire CPU not as big as Xeon CPU that indeed need 2 retention mechanism.

[@sbme1147]

They can say that. But heat _Destroy's_ all man made things. I was on some forum many years ago, well several here and there. One was Slashdot another was who knows what not too long ago. At least two different people who worked on _submarines_ talked about working on computer, IT items, who knows what else. They noticed if they could get things down by just 2-3 C things would last A Lot longer, I mean a lot longer. So I always had that in the back of my head. When I first built my first desktop many years ago, I went to Home Depot and cut a hole in the side of the case for a 120mm fan, whatever the perfect size for that is ( still have that ). Also a hole right behind where my new Q6600 ( one 1st consumer quad cores that wasn't 1k ) went and put a 80mm fan or ? don't remember the size on that one. I OC'd that one a fair bit and always put new paste on it every year. Had that thing for over 6-8 years, honestly don't remember and it was still working well. IIRC also put a hole in the top of that case or two. However: You or a Family Member may want your current desktop as a Media Server or NAS Server one day. It appears we don't own anything we purchase anymore if you've been following the tea leaves the last three years... Just a NAS, 4 to 6 is fine. So really with more Cores (P) and (E) cores if you took care of a desktop longer you could actually turn it into a fairly powerful Proxmox type "Server" down the line. Depending on the CPU of course (14+ I'd say ?? ), it could run Proxmox with TrueNAS Scale, CasaOS or UnRaid *AND* a Firewalls; pfSense / OPNsense with 10GbE or 25GbE in like 4-7 years *AND* have another 2-4 VM's with like 20 or 50 Docker type or LXC's containers running *AND* Jellyfin / Plex and maybe Home Assistant... That's why I'd rather have the E cores as Proxmox and such can take advantage of them unlike the new Intel CPU's coming out, your going to have to pay A Lot of money to get the same vCPU relationship from the what I understand ( which isn't much to be honest at this time ). Only limited amount of YT vids on future desktop Intel CPU's in 2025-2026. Didn't see crazy numbers but I also watch so many things on laptops to, so who knows.

[@GanymedeXD]

@@OneShotCSOf course it might as it can void warranty of the mobo!

[@HugoLamarche]

I have the Thermalright in my Fractal Design Ridge on my i5 13600K and it was part of the solutions I use to have good temps. The other part is bios tweaking :)

[@karlchiasson4946]

Thanks for taking a look at these offset brackets.

[@harryhalfmoon]

Short, interesting, detailed enough, sweet. Thank you! Commenting for the algorithm.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks. The original video was a lot longer. Haha

[@happysideoffear777]

I got to say, I'm incredibly happy that KZbin suggested this channel. Y'all are amazing

[@GamerofGamesGG]

These videos are helping me build my future AMD/Nvidia PC. Thanks for this.

[@masterinico]

I love that my new Noctua NH-D15 came with the offset brackets considering I had no idea this was a thing assembling my new AM5 build

[@LapNgo-h9u]

I ordered an off brand frame off of Amazon at no charge (I'm a product reviewer). I never did extensive testing, but it really didn't do much for temps during gaming. That being said, I have a power sipping i3 12100F, so I wasn't expecting any differences. It does look nice under there and it gives me some reassurance that my CPU won't warp. I would definitely recommend it if you use a beefier CPU and/or overclock.

[@ishiddddd4783]

power sipping 12100K lol, the 12100f barely goes to 55W of power draw at 100% utilization

[@GanymedeXD]

And you are a product tester? 😂 They are not for temperature reduction! They are for pressure optimisation and the optional silicone guard to reduce thermal paste problems with the am5 design. Thats what the manufacturers state!

[@Atrumoris]

Installing contact frames isn't much of a trouble. Installing them correctly however, that's another beast altogether! When screwing them in on your CPU, if you go just a smidge too tight or too loose and you're in for a world of pain regarding your PC performance, and even stability! My suggestion is if you do get one of these, ignore the included Allen wrench and get a really good torque driver instead.

[@yousuff1]

Arctic gave me offsets for free for their 280 AIO, because AM5 was released after the product was designed. Great company.

[@GainingDespair]

Lucky you, they told me I would need to RMA my unit for a replacement since I had a first gen AIO (not offset compatible).

[@iixixiboy3475]

im personally using LGA1700 contact frame.. i strongly suggest using it, easy install, easy thermal paste apply, easy clean thermal paste without worries.

[@ydin9]

I can't believe that with this bracket ol' U-12 becomes viable for AM5. What a champ grandpa.

[@JannyBesmircher]

I am a caveman and was able to properly install the plate with the tutorial on Gamers Nexus. My idle temps for my i7 13700k are around 28-32 degrees which is pretty good. (I also have a nice AIO)

[@arbiter1]

its as simple as taking 4 screws out and puttin the plate in. the screw holes are setup in a way its impossible to install upside down as they won't line up.

[@bullseye06]

you've won a french follower, simple & clear video with beautifuls diagrams. Thank you

[@markus.schiefer]

I can only recommend the combination of a contact frame and KryoSheet. Both improved temperatures on my 12900k noticibly, but the combination was amazing with a hotspot delta of only 8° at full load and didn't change over time because the KryoSheet performance stays constant over time. In comparison, with the default ILM and MX4 even after a few months this went up 25° due to faster drying out in the higher temperature of my very SFF in a hot country.

[@wolfzatyt]

Glad to see a video just explaining it and being simple, I'm planning to build my first PC soon and I am worried about the 1700 gen temps so I looked around for anything to fix it and found these frames. When searching videos I just got a lot of people saying mixed results and saying it can damage the cpu or motherboard etc, yet I look at reviews and personal experiences from people and they say it's super simple and efficient, just glad to have someone confirm it being relatively a newbie.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

I used the AMD Thermalright Mount........I started Cooling my processor with a Thermalright Peerless Assassin Air Cooler while I as putting together the watercooling loop and buying components, I always recommend for custom loops keeping an Air cooler Just in Case, it was worth it just for the ThermalPaste cleanup, and If you ever do cleaning maintenance on a Custom loop, It just saves so much time the $5 is worth it even if it does no actual thermal improvement.

[@wilazn]

I bought the TR frame after watching GN video and my Temps went down about 8C on my i7 13700k with my artic freezer 360 AIO.

[@artosbear]

The benefit on my 5800x 1 installing my arctic offset is actually like 3°, which is pretty significant I wouldn't call that minimal

[@StaySic4Ever]

Can confirm Arctic AIO for 7800X3D offset mount works great.

[@manicseamonkey]

I use a contact frame in conjunction with a NH-D15 on a i7 13700K. Temperatures during gaming are between high 50's to mid 60's. I've set intel's 253W limit and allow the processor to it's thermal boost, no all core OC, but do have a +200Mhz on all set points with an -0.65mV undervolt.

[@Davinmk]

i don’t understand why people buy the NH-D15 when you can buy aios for the same price

[@manicseamonkey]

@@Davinmk I bought it when I upgraded my first build in 2017, a 6700 to 7700K. It has served me well since then with a few modifications along the way.

[@Ravenx217]

some ppl want less moving parts/points-of-failure. i still went aio tho

[@MadridistaFrieren]

Yo mike, does the offset mounts & contact frame helps the low profile cpu coolers alot?

[@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn]

I used the Thermalright one for my 13900K and works great.

[@sandornyemcsok4168]

Few weeks ago I ordered a frame on Amazon together with the Ryzen 5 7600, it was another brand than Thermaltake and slightly cheaper. But it did not fit precisely to the shape and dimensions of the chip (it did not touch the motherboard at all, there was a few mm gap between them) so I returned it. And I decided not to order a Thermaltake frame, because I was surprised how small the AM5 CPU and socket is (compared to the AM4 I had before). I thought it cannot make much difference, since this frame was developed for Intel 12th gen first, which was bigger than the other Intel CPUs before thus created the bending issue. But on a smaller size the mounting mechanism simply cannot bend the CPU as much.

[@GanymedeXD]

Thermaltake does not offer any … Thermalright does.

[@jcto6013]

This is good but my results are still different. I installed a contact frame on my 12700k and saw a 5C reduction at idle. And the "warping over time" is not correct. The warping is immediate as soon as the temperatures begin to rise. This is a tiny warp that causes a small gap between the CPU and cooler. The warping from the stock ILM does not cause permanent deformation of the CPU. It's purely because of the rectangular design of the 12/13 gen that causes weak and strong stress planes during operation, instead of an equal stress plane from a traditional square design (this is why it does nothing for the current AM5 chips). The contact frame I installed also reduced the frequency and severity of temperature spikes under load, and the power consumption charts were more consistent under load, as opposed to the stock ILM that had a erratically variable consumption as reported from HWinfo64. The contact frames are a no brainer for 12/13 gen CPUs.

[@Cwronaga216]

Just a suggestion that I think would be an interesting test but since the contact frame itself acts as an aluminum heatsink you should check to see how much of the total cooler cold plate surface covers the contact frame and apply thermal paste beyond the CPU IHS partially on to the contact frame. The contact frame itself should absorb some of the heat from the CPU and that thermal layer so that the contact frame can also make contact with the cooler even if slightly less efficient due to the contact frame being a little lower than the IHS. And there doesn't seem to be any real harm in doing this since the contact frame is protecting overflow from getting into the socket. Just curious if increasing the surface area I'm available heatsink contact with the cooler makes a difference. And of course test it with the offset bracket as well

[@analogicparadox]

The area of contact between the frame and CPU is too low to spread any significant heat, and the frame *isn't even close* to making contact with the coolers.

[@Cwronaga216]

@@analogicparadox I'm aware but that could be easily remedied. Even simply applying a thicker layer of paste on the bracket so that there is at least some amount of contact between the cold plate and the bracket could decreased temperatures even slightly. That's why I'm simply suggesting a test to see if it's possible and if so even noticeable. Every little bit of heat transfer helps as long as you're not interfering with the contact between the plate and the IHS

[@analogicparadox]

@@Cwronaga216 considering how much impact mounting pressure has on cooling, I can *guarantee* you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. Even if the mounting bracket was part of the IHS, sub-1°C difference.

[@jeremybarber2837]

The delta on that D15+contact frame+13900k is wild.

[@mattwright6249]

The Ad for the case, shows yes the largest graphics card installed, and severely sagging at the same time... put a bracket on that GPU so you don't have to send it off to NorthwestRepair when it gets a broken PCB right where it sockets into the motherboard.

[@MisterDemonTC]

I'm a little disappointed the AM5 contact plate doesn't really do much for temps, but I'm at least happy about how it helps keep the sides of the cpu clean. Just got one the other day, planning on a 7800X3D. You wouldn't happen to have any testing done on that chip that I can find in your videos, would you?

[@zorropopo]

the offset is only for noctua heatsink?

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

You could just use more Thermal Paste. There are lots of exposed parts on the motherboard you can add thermal paste to. There is so much surface area on the motherboard, and nobody thinks about covering the entire thing in thermal paste. Like the RAM slots, or the M.2 connectors. Even the USB ports. Try it, itll lower temps like you've never seen. Its incredible.

[@SidVirtuous]

Just tried this, thanks for the tip.

[@J.Wick.]

This comment changed my PC for the better. But, more importantly, it changed my life. Thank you for this.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

@@J.Wick. we're not just fighting static, we're fighting cancer

[@jonirischx8925]

I tried this and now my computer won't start :( Did I not use enough thermal paste? Should I apply another layer?

[@J.Wick.]

@@jonirischx8925 reapply. triple the amount. should do the trick. make sure to get it deep in the dimm slots as well.

[@QuentinStephens]

Great analysis; keep up the good work. Would you say that the AMD contact frame is worth it for the cleanliness if you are building a new system but not for modifying an existing one?

[@maximus3294]

I suppose that once you sink around a thousand dollars into a new AM5 system, the additional cost of the contact frame wouldn't be too tough to swallow; people spend extra on custom cables and extensions and whatnot, so why not this?

[@HardwareCanucks]

It depends on how many times you want to install and uninstall the CPU. We now use it for all AM5 systems since we switch out coolers / CPUs so much.

[@webcodr]

Until I switched back to air cooling, I used a AquaComputer cuplex kryos next with an AM4 offset mount for a 3950X and later a 5800X3D. The offset moves the inlet and therefore the water flow onto the coldplate directly above the CCDs and improved the temperature by a two to four degrees Celsius. Arctic has a similar approach for their AIOs and AFAIK it works well.

[@twanheijkoop6753]

Saw a 4c improvement on my 5800x with the arctic offset mounting on my LF 2 420. Did require taking a metal saw to the brackets to make it fit on my specific mobo tho.

[@GuyX2013]

I can attest for the LGA1700 frame . I run a 13900K with a ROG 360 AIO and 4090 in a Asus Prime TG case and with the case closed running cyberpunk at max settings for hrs it will run in the 70s celsius with spikes here and there up to maybe 85

[@rgracon]

are there any tips/secrets to how fully to tighten down the contact frame screws?

[@HardwareCanucks]

We didn't have any issues just don't over tighten

[@rgracon]

@@HardwareCanucks thanks for the reply, even with my original typo, and you having to decipher it!

[@GilbertBeaudry]

I have the AM5 contact frame and I can tell you that it did, in fact, lower my temp by about 2 degrees with a Ryujin III.

[@dubwork]

🥶

[@nitrowarrior-lj5ip]

🥶

[@GanymedeXD]

Thats not what they are actually made for … they are for pressure improvement and with optional silicone guard for thermal paste protection

[@GilbertBeaudry]

@@GanymedeXD I know what they were made for, I'm just saying that I noticed a temp difference of about 2 degrees after extensive testing.

[@viktor05081985]

I definitely want more content like this. Is very helpful. Thank you

[@Tanktaco]

Why didn't the clones work? Was it the paint? If you sanded would you see results?

[@jspau]

My i9 14900k was running at around 35c idle before the contact frame. Now with the contact frame it runs at 20 - 25c. I've even seen it dip below 20c - no kidding! 15 degrees difference before and after is insane. This should be the standard for all mobo's.

[@LilMissMurder3409]

Be nice to get a contact frame for 5$. In my neck of the woods the shafting factor is upwards of $50 (for the TG part at least).

[@eliadbu]

The TG is more overly engineered; it is precisely machined and anodized, which drives the price up. Even der8aur said it was designed for extreme Overclockers whom spend hundreds on LN2 pots and other equipment.

[@micobugija6284]

Your diagram is by 90 degrees off. Also, AM4 had offset mounts included with the arctic freezer II so it's not just AM5.

[@oldschool_bamagatrader9960]

i just bought arctic ii 360 included AM4 sets also just bought this cpu contact frame. is it compatible ?

[@micobugija6284]

@@oldschool_bamagatrader9960 it should be and you are asking the wrong person. 🤣

[@oldschool_bamagatrader9960]

:DD@@micobugija6284

[@haaland5303]

Should I get Contact Frame for my i5 12400f.. ?

[@sufian-ben]

I had a 13700K before, and i was cooling it with a Lian-Li Galahad 360, the Tamps were always high ant sometimes in CPU heavy loads it would get to 100C. The I saw this thermal grizzly contact frame and i absolutely bought it, it was 9 dollars in amazon after coupon so even if it did not work, it was still not the full $40 that thermal grizzly was asking, after i installed it my CPU never went above 76C it dropped the temps by over 20C in my case, it was probably a hell of a bend. now i have the R9 7950X3d and its running at 80C without the contact frame cuz the CPU is too small already, but any of my friends or acquaintances who want to upgrade to the 12th or 13th or 14th get intel CPUs i always make it seem as a requirement for the CPU to work

[@Shreeechan]

In my opinion contact frames are worth it purely because an am5 with one looks so damn cool.

[@ezoez7548]

My cpu temps kept going up ever so slightly when gaming. But it was unusually fast. Replaced it with this contact frame and reapplied the thermal paste and now temps are so stable its insane

[@GanymedeXD]

Placebo effect … most likely reapplication of thermal paste … even the manufacturers do not sell it for temperature management. Just pressure optimisation and optionally paste protection.

[@Vlkodlak]

The screws on my socket are not compatible with Thermal Grizzly's contact frame :( I have a ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero.

[@VictorMistral]

For the voiding of guaranty, it most depends on country and so on to be true or not. In Canada, from what I understood, we can do modification and still have a guaranty, if our modification can be be the source of the issue. (IE : you swap with the new contact plate, but a cap on the audio blows afterward, and there is no evidence that the mod could have cause the issue, so guaranty should be provided, but fold a pin while applying the mod, then the mod is the cause, so no guaranty) Well I think manufacturers has to prove that it's your mods fold beyond reasonable doubt; not that the companies will argue it's your mod fault, hopping to save some money (not in legal field, so I might be completely wrong)

[@shanent5793]

Best to use a credit card with warranty protection, let the bank sue them if they don't honour their warranty

[@soulverse8622]

thinking of buying it, since i just got a new pc, I know there can be a huge temp difference i mostly sees at least 3-5c differences. But i not sure because i have a different aio brand, paste and average temp in my country is ~30c.

[@Vitrooz]

Or just activate PBO in bios and have constant low temperature 🌡️ ? 😅

[@HisPegasus362]

Max load for about an hour on my cpu with a Heavy overclock on a ryzen 9 7900x and i have yet seen over 70C° its amazing

[@No0_Name]

If I use an AIO to cooling my CPU, Is that LGA1700 Contact Frame will still work?? or only for air cooling?

[@dotxyn]

I'd really like to know how you are getting 7700X temps in the 80s at full load. At stock settings testing with CB R23 all core 10min, my 7700X hits 95c no matter what with the Thermalright PS120SE and Frozen Notte 240 AIO. I've remounted the cooler many times and tried different pastes (TF7, MX4, TG7, GD900). Might yours be a golden sample? Edit: I'll add that I also tested with the LS520 SE, and while the temp rose a bit slower, it still hit 95c.

[@-Burb]

I’ve read that even people with 420mm AIOs will sometimes see the temperatures up to 93C. I use the Arctic liquid freezer II 240mm with the offset mounting and at stock it also reached 95C pretty fast. I changed the PBO tuning and did some wattage limiting to 120W instead of the 150 it was pulling before, along with capping the temperature, and now it runs faster than it did stock and also runs cooler. I know these chips are fine to run at 95C but it still bugged me, so I put the cap at 85C instead. Look up a video called “Fixing Ryzen 7000 - PBO2 Tune” by optimum, it explains how to do this, definitely recommend.

[@dotxyn]

@@-Burb That is why I specified stock settings, which is what I assume HC is using. For daily use, I have mine tuned with a 120w PPT limit as well, and CO range of -10-28 after some Core Cycler testing. I am aware that the Frozen Notte isn't the best for AM5, but even with the Deepcool I was seeing 90-95c with those settings, although in both cases the CPU is able to boost higher with the adjustments, which is how I understand these CPU's function; boosting as high as possible until their thermal and wattage limits. I am just curious how they've pulled off such great temps after seeing a couple of Ryzen testing videos of theirs.

[@HardwareCanucks]

We have three 7700X's and all behave within a few degrees of one another. Perhaps it's the load type. Remember R23 uses AVX which puts additional load on the core complexes whereas most normal full core workloads (Blender, Maya, Keyshot, etc.) don't. So it's a bit of an unrealistic load scenario.

[@dotxyn]

@@HardwareCanucks The type of load did cross my mind, so I'll have to do some Blender testing and compare my results. Thanks for the reply.

[@Kriptoker]

Just remove the contact frame and put the stock mechanism back on before sending the board for warranty. Absolutely no way they can know you used one unless you tell them.

[@laszlosarkozi1385]

Great stuff for cheap! I will definitely buy one for my NH U12S chromax black cooler.

[@iliasiosifidis4532]

Awesome and compact as always. Can you test if there is any meaningful difference on swapping dark rock pro fans to silent wings pro 4? Also is it possible to test thermal paste? I think that to make a comparison between them, you need to let them cure for like a month.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Sadly, I don't think we will be able to do that at this point in time. We are only a few weeks away from being able to tell you guys how the new be quiet coolers perform.

[@azaharpurwanto4505]

I bought Thermalright contact frame for LGA 1700, I installed in Asus Rog Strix Z790-i and voila motherboard didn't read my 14700kf but when I go back traditional way, motherboard read my 14700kf. What I can do so Thermalright contact frame can be functional in Asus Rog Strix Z790-i?

[@TurambaR_06]

thanks for the recommendation, i am currently in the process of building an Intel 12° gen system and i forgot completly about the frame.

[@krazyfrog]

I'm curious if the unexpected difference between the Frost Commander and the Frost Spirit changes with the contact frame. Also, kinda wish you would use the contact frame for all Intel cooler reviews going forward.

[@STEELFOX2000]

It works whit whatever cooler .

[@melikasalehi2551]

Hey! I am doing a little bit of research on which gaming headsets are the best ones. I am getting my boyfriend a new pair for christmas and would like to hear your suggestions. He wants a pair with detachable mic. He currently has the Corsair Gaming HS60 Haptic. I want the ones I buy to be better than those or as good. Thank you.

[@voongnz]

what are the cutouts on the inside of the 1700 contact frame? 2 on the right and 1 on the left. i have the same thermalright frame but without the cutouts. all is good regardless, my max temps are 8-10c lower.

[@Real_SkyRipper]

If i get a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE do i need this offset bracket for AMD? would be great if they informed on this more on the products.

[@GibbonActivist]

I've had a 7800x3d with nocua d15 and only now have discovered the offset mount wow

[@burstdragon3233]

is there an offset mount kit for be quiet?

[@TechTalkTobi]

don't forget the amount of money that you need to pay first for the new plattform 😂😂😂

[@DeepakKumar-lv4te]

what about when the cpu isn't working flat out and temps aren't high, does it still provide a reduction? Thx for the vid.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Not really though it could if the situation is right like if the CPU has indeed bowed over time.

[@ariprabowo85]

Yeah, I'm gonna pass for the AM5 contact plate. That thing is sold for US$ 25 where I live.

[@Goldman_90]

man i hate that these things are needed, they just come from lazy design (the socket should make even pressure, and the amd processor cores should be centered)

[@chasewilltin8567]

What about the "silver arrow t8 and silver arrow ib-e extreme rev.b". Their TDP is 320 compared to the "tr frostspirit 140 v3" which is 280 TDP.

[@chasewilltin8567]

I don't know I it's true but there is also "cooler master v8 3dvc" at 300w

[@adsr14]

I installed the Nab Cooling contact frame from Amazon on my 12600k with a Deepcool ak620 and now my idle temps sit at 24 degrees. I don’t do stress tests but at 1440p ultra settings in Red Dead Redemption 2 benchmarks I maxed out at 39 degrees. In Farcry 5 1440p ultra with HD texture packs installed I reached 40 degrees and in Farcry 6 benchmark at 1440p ultra if I remember correctly I reached 42 degrees. Pretty wild. I’d definitely say I have some overclocking headroom if I wanted to but meh I don’t mess with that stuff.

[@ZhouleiWang]

I wonder will single-tower cooler will have better performance on 7950x than double-tower coller? since the heat pipe of single tower is vertical to the 2 dies and more pipes can touch the 2 dies, but for double tower cooler, the heat pipe is parallel to the 2 dies and maybe only 2 pipe can touch the dies, can help test u12a vs d15 on 7950x?

[@BuzzKora]

so you can use the contact plate from thermal grizzly plus the shift cooler brackets and use them together or not? and if yes did i miss the results on the video?

[@HardwareCanucks]

The offset mount is only for AMD

[@Shuttterbugg]

I've had the thermalright one for awhile it helped.alott..that was.about a year.ago..it helped.with.10degrees at least..make sure it's tightened back and forth through the bolts so it's even

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

Can you make video with this offset and secure frame in low profile cpu cooler with 7800x3d? Please 🙏

[@orfeous]

Are there any contact frames available for my olf Intel LGA1150 socket? If there is im happy to use it even if it "just" lower the temperatures with 1 degree celsius. But my main goal is to spread the contact more evenly between heatsink and IHS. Wich one of theese colers where the best one for the bucks right now? I know you have tested and mentioned it. Was it ThermalRight Peerless Assassin or DeepCool Assassin III? Upgrading from Noctua NH-U9 SE2. Dual fan configuration. Push/Pull. Intel i5-4670K @ 4.3Ghz ~92-95W at full load.

[@arbiter1]

Those cpu's don't have the issue since cpu is a square.

[@brandynnew]

I'm worried about damaging my CPU when installing the Intel bracket

[@Yuukister]

Did you guys retest all the air coolers for 7950X full load graph on this video? I can see the graph in comparison to your old video "The Best Ryzen CPU Coolers you can Buy" has different data for the air coolers, especially the TR FS140 V3 being able to perform close to an AIO whereas in this video its not even close.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Actually if you look carefully The results themselves didn't change. Actual vertical scale of the graph did. That means two coolers that are very close together in performance might look further apart here.

[@Yuukister]

Thanks for clarifying 😊

[@EskaloSAF]

A friend of mine has the 13600k since a few months. His CPU is not able to hold the 5,1 Boost for more then 60 seconds and goes down to 4,6 due to high temps. I now have the same CPU but with contact frame and it easily holds Boost forever with < 95 degrees. I probably have a little bit better cooler, air flow and was more lucky with the CPU itself but the Contact Frame seems to work very well (I have a no name contact frame from Amazon)

[@notchipotle]

zen4 gives me headache lol it get's above 80'C once in a while while doing basic task, but when gaming it's only like 60-70'C. I still can't find the perfect fan curves for the CPU, this kind of problem usually only happen when I'm using air cooler, but zen4 makes AIO behave like an air cooler

[@webcodr]

If it's possible with your AIO's software, I would recommend to set up the fan curves based on the water temperature. That's way easier and also the usual approach for custom water cooling. With modern CPUs it makes almost no sense at all to adjust the fan curves to the package temperature anymore. They jump way too often and in too big delta values to be a reliable source for fan curves.

[@clark85]

80 degrees is absolutely nothing to worry about

[@notchipotle]

@@clark85 it's not about the temp, it's just so annoying when the cpu fan randomly ramps up just because a single core gets above 80°C, I wish I can set the fan based on average core temperature, but I don't have that option even with 3d party app

[@zhaf]

Too bad the AM5 offset mounts only work with Noctua. I have a Thermalright cooler.

[@doubble80]

i have one pc with a i9 12900k and one with a 7600x. both with air coolers. neither get close to being hot. no matter the game i play

[@krisrobitzsch]

These are old news. And they definitely work.

[@drowninggames]

The contact frame potentially broke my CPU. 13700k, was working fine then had a random PC crash, power went off and now the CPU is broken, Tried two mobos and they don't recognise a CPU is installed, get the red light.

[@faerianacrafts]

Does this help with the X3D chips aswell?

[@andresgallego5727]

Is there something like this for AM4? my 5800X3D I feel like gets hot even on a custom loop.

[@webcodr]

Depends on the manufacturers of your water block. AquaComputer for example offers AM4/AM5 offest mounts for their cuplex kryos next series.

[@ishiddddd4783]

Thermal grizzly on their way to charge 30usd at a minimum for a contact frame that performs worse

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Noctua makes a thermal paste guard for AM5 CPUs that seems to be an easier way to keep thermal paste out compared to the contact frame

[@HardwareCanucks]

They do but it sits far lower

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I bought one AM5 one a while ago and have used 2 x 12th gen ones, just seemed to be a thing necessary to have good temps from what was being said by other tech reviewers.

[@azjeep26]

no bracket installed my temp as writing this is 28c 12th gen cpu

[@JustBenching]

Νο liquid metal? Works much better than the contact frame unless you have a really really bend socket.

[@HardwareCanucks]

No, no liquid metal. Never.

[@JustBenching]

@@HardwareCanucks Just try it in one of your videos. You can probably hit 330w on a u12a without throttling

[@fidelj3025]

I wonder how much would the thermal grizzly cryosheet would do in conjunction with the contact frame?

[@alen7492]

I think not much, because contact frame its not fully leveled with cpu

[@riba2233]

another awesome video, thanks Mike! :)

[@p.d.k.]

I buy a $12 USD Thermalright contact frame for all of my socket 1700 motherboards. The warping the stock ILM causes is unacceptable, no matter the CPU.

[@michaelg9188]

i would love to see the these tests run again when Noctua releases their next gen D15

[@HardwareCanucks]

Next gen D15 will include the offset brackets

[@Tony_Tavo]

My offset mounts were free. Asked for brackets to use my old cooler. They sent me the new brackets for free.

[@MrDilldock]

I have the Thermalright AXP90 X47 cooling a 7600x in a SFF case. I don't like how it idles at 50 C.