A Bikepacking E-Bike With a Very Long Range: Fiido Titan

[@OscarHikes]

Fiido is running a sale right now! Get the Fiido Titan over here (affiliate links): Fiido EU store: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2557236&u=4231089&m=105163&urllink=&afftrack= Fiido US store: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2557337&u=4231089&m=105163&urllink=&afftrack=

[@pipito588]

After this goooood video i will buy this e bike,i live in Croatia Dalmatia many up hills,greatings from Imotski Dalmatia,thanks

[@mickilkr]

Excellent video review!

man thats a cool ass ebike i need it

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Your mileage WILL vary.depending on if you use throttle (or not) and how much you exert yourself. My eBike can travel as little as 20 miles or as far as 100 miles. The difference is substantial. Note that in the USA, tremendous efforts are underway to make only those bikes actually labeled as class one, two or three allowed on public roads, trails or lands. I would assume the Fiido Titan destined for the the US market would be a class 3 yet am uncertain. Just be aware, thanks for the video, see you on the trails!

[@akamajorj1]

The thing that puts me off getting an e-bike is that all the things I’ve had that are electric such as phones, Apple Watch, computer, iPad, kindle, the capacity of the battery goes down quickly over a few years. So how often would you need to get new batteries? And will you still be able to get batteries that fit this model in a few years?

[@1chickenpig]

Ive got a fat tyre ebike that is a little heavier than this one. Its got a 48v 20 amp hour battery which gets me around 30 miles using a mixture of peddle assist and throttle. I mostly use the higher settings 3 - 5. An extra battery would be good but the batteries i need are around £600. This Fido looks equally well built. I think i will build my next ebike so it's a bit lighter than these and if need be say for a breakdown i could peddle them without assistance home for repair. Good review cheers

[@AlexF-i1t]

Great review, thanks a lot. Will it be comfortable on such a bike to travel along Camino Santiago in France+Spain+Portugal? I've never been there, so I'm asking. Thanks in advance for answering.

[@WiIIiamBIake-q1k]

The lamp is mounted wrong that's why the Cable.is to short. You need to mount it on the upper screws🫣

[@Aredubu]

Nice review.

[@TrollToove]

what do you do if your phone battery is dead and the bike is all out of power? is there no physical key top open it?

[@Prometheushighaf]

Use the bike screen to unlock it

[@De5O54]

It can charge in-bike.

[@moorejl57]

Looks like a fun bike. I did have to smirk that you said you can't ride it on trails and need a motorcycle helmet where you live and then proceed to demo it on trails without a helmet. Which brand of batteries does use (Sanyo etc...)?

[@OscarHikes]

Please don't send this to the Italian police! :D But honestly, if I'd just ride it around my town, I probably wouldn't even need to register it because it's mostly just farmers there and I don't remember I've ever seen a cop on those roads. For the battery, you can see the specs at 04:03. I don't have access to the bike now to check because I'm in another country right now for a bit. But it looks like it's their own battery.

[@OscarHikes]

But I do plan on registering it when I turn back and probably doing a several-day bikepacking trip and making a video about it. :) Not focused on the bike, but just a cool trip video. It would be nice to do something else for a change, not just hiking! :D

[@phil5888]

The law excludes pedal assist bikes.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

@@phil5888 Perhaps...if the bike has no throttle, cannot travel over 25 Kph and the motor rated at under 250 watt. As always, every municipality is different yet most seem to lean towards whatever the national laws on eBike use might be. In any case, if law enforcement se a throttle you might well get to show them your entire eBike. Be respectful and courteous to hopefully avoid a detailed inspection of your entire eBike..

[@AntjeRoestenburg]

As long as it’s not unlocked, it will be limited to legal EU laws

[@OnelastgoTV]

So are you going to get insured and wear a helmet or does it not count if you're only riding it locked?

[@A-scketchy-otter-lol]

gall i wish i could get my hands on this for a review/video on it

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I still think DIY eBikes are the way for now, at least for people who are a bit mechanically inclined. With 800 euros I converted my cheapo decahtlon MTB and I get about 100 kms on flat, with 4-5 lvl assist (5 being maximum), doing 25-30 kph. The battery is 800 Wh with Molicell 21700 lithium cells, so good cells, and a torque sensor 80 Nm 250W motor. When I see the prices on these eBikes I just don't get it. With the price of a cube with bosch drivetrain for example, one can get a good second hand proper motorcycle.

[@OscarHikes]

If I'd have the time, space, and necessary tools, I'd love to do my own eBike project. I'm sure you can get even better results that way, and it would also be really fun to make.

[@СтивънМетрашев]

yeah and you attach a battery outside the frame that looks like shit, no thank you. I want my battery in the frame

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@СтивънМетрашев if you want to pay arround 2k more for a nice finish, sure go ahead.

[@wandererstraining]

I made a DIY bike for myself, as well, using a steel frame hardtail mountain bike. I put a Bafang BBSHD on it, with a Lekkie 40T HD chainring. Got a parallel module (to use two batteries at once), and two batteries. One triangle inside my triangle frame, and one brick that I mounted on my top tube with a mount I 3D printed. Both are weatherproofed, and the total weight is around 32 kg. I use an Eggrider v2 as my display, which allows me to reprogram my motor on the fly using my phone. Both batteries offer 1820Wh. Riding my bike with moderate assist and maintaining a speed of around 30 km/h, my range is well over 200 km. On throttle only, and at 30 km/h or so still, my range is a bit over 100 km. If I wanted to, I could use another parallel module to add a third battery on my rear rack, and increase my range furthermore. It wouldn't be difficult to get 400+ km out of my bike, actually. Also, because of the Eggrider display, I can quickly switch between "road" and "offroad" mode. I limited the road speed to 32 km/h, but the offroad mode is unlimited. With the offroad mode, I can get speeds of around 50 km/h with throttle only, and of around 60 km/h if I use my legs as well. It's a lot of fun, and I sometimes use it when the environment allows to do it safely. Gets me home from work a lot faster late at night. (I get big large roads that are mostly empty at that time, with the ability to see far ahead.)

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@wandererstraining holy crap you REALLY went DIY :))

[@sjaak8601]

may I ask you how big long are you in cm

[@De5O54]

VG review. TY.

[@paulmajor3105]

You don't mention the foult s ie battery unlock switch doesn't work and you can't get the battery out and no support from fiido

[@DemiGod..]

Had an ebike, the Ribble Endurance ALE. With a 250W motor and 250 W battery got about 30 miles with max 100% assist Put a Bafung 250W motor on an ICE Sprint X 26 Tour recumbent trike equiped with a rohloff hub and using a 565W battery . It gets about 60 miles on max 100% assist on the road, till the battery drops to below 20%. It pulls a trailer with 6 spare batteries and an extra on the frame giving about 480 miles range. Fitted a motor as sick of bicycles overtaking me climbing hills, now it blows past them up and down hills.

[@OscarHikes]

Damn that sounds so cool! 480 mile range is A LOT!

[@bobsnittle3793]

could you explain more in depth how this works? how to make DIY e-bikes? or if its worth it vs buying a pre-made one. im thinking its cheaper to build one, and more efficient too

[@IanHammon]

You bolted the headlamp in the wrong position (you need to use the upper threaded holes as shown in the instructions which, by the way, also doesn't work as this snags the other cables which then all get damaged!

[@davidesavorelli4103]

Se si rompe?

[@GCF242]

The disadvantage of an electric motorcycle like this, is that if you use it without full throttle and motorised help, it is too heavy to cycle. I dislike the use of an app as well, what if you have no cell service to connect to your bike in the middle of nowhere? Unless it also works with Bluetooth.

[@OscarHikes]

Yeah without any assist, you can only use it on a flat terrain or downhill. That definitely is a pretty big disadvantage. I mean theoretically, you can also go uphill on pretty much the lowest gear, but it's so much work. Oh and about the app - you don't need to use it. You can unlock everything through the screen as well if your phone is dead.

[@OscarHikes]

I think I would prefer something more lightweight, closer to an MTB, and maybe with a 250W motor. But this thing is also really cool. Because it's a fat-tire bike, you can ride it almost anywhere very comfortably. I think it's best suited for heavier people and people who don't want to pedal almost at all, and ride on trails and bad-quality dirt roads. It's like an SUV version of a bike. :D But I've had a lot of MTB experience as a kid, so I think I'd prefer something more nimble.

[@jxpat]

It's not very efficient. My GZR Raw with 250w bafang middrive and 650wh battery has a range of ~80km with a single battery. I live tge concept, but the efficiency isn't good enough.

[@seasoldier3902]

These E-bikes cannot be ridden on a road or bye-way in the UK unless the owner complies with the various pieces of legislation that cover mechanically propelled vehicles (simply put as it is a large subject to explain here).

[@BeeSwarmAgain]

I thought that too

[@p.r.5628]

They can. We have similar legislation over here, and the limited (25 kph) version of Fiido bikes complies with the law.

[@michaeluden7689]

Would you recommend it to smaller people as well? Like 165 cm

[@De5O54]

It does people 5 foot 1.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

It's fun to "dream" about, but there's no way I could justify that price.

[@international64564]

im16 and i was able 2

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

@@international64564 good for you?

[@De5O54]

@Obi-Wan - ‘price of an iPhone. They are just under £2,000. Here is a new 6,000 e-bike catching fire/ exploding after 3 miles. He was hammering it way too fast, or, Filmed on 2 cameras. + fire service. Video, YT watch?v=wxr1iXEf9lY

[@12villages]

A 20kg bicycle is hard enough to pedal. At 35kg, I wonder if we can still call it a manual bicycle. 😂 But that's what happens when you want fat tyres and long range batteries.

[@De5O54]

@12villages - as their England football manager (genuinely) said to the team during a World Cup in South America, “if you are too hot, run faster”.

[@chrisw3421]

No suspension for the seat, immediate pass for me.... especially for off-road riding, that ridgid frame would be horrible quickly...and such a simple fix.

[@sunshineboy8375]

Fiido titan no good, the 2 batteries behind are too heavy, they make you consume a lot and they can make you fall. And guess what? They are not connected! So when you finish the first battery you should stop to swap with another, which you can't do anyway if it's raining...

[@paintingfromscratch8210]

Didn't pay you anything, they gave an e-bike lol

[@brianbassett4379]

It cracks me up *and* makes me sad that you think this toy is a quality *_long-range_* ebike. It's not.

[@OscarHikes]

Several months later - this isn't a toy. It's a chinese e-bike, yes, but definately on the higher quality end on the spectrum. The only thing that I've had to change so far are the brake pads. Long-distance bikepacking in this is definitely doable, especially with 3 batteries. However, I think the most limiting factor is weight and the fat tires, which make it hard to cycle if it runs out of power, and if the road isn't flat or downhill. For mostly gravel road stuff, this would be a good option for long-distance bike trips (like for example, in the Baltics, where I come from, where most bikepacking routes go on gravel roads). But if you'll be going mostly on paved roads, a better option for sure would be a touring ebike with offroad tires (not fat tires), and weight below 25kg (this one is 37kg). This would allow you to essentially use the assist only going uphill, which would greatly improve the range. For the price of this one, you could definitely find something like that. Probably also from a Chinese brand, but still - if you're willing to do modifications and repair it yourself, then I think for a first e-bike specifically, a Chinese ebike is a good option.