A Brilliant Endgame Study

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@Moiaija
@Moiaija 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how in this "simple" position you have to play just the right moves, or you get a draw.
@felipao2134
@felipao2134 2 жыл бұрын
Or you lose
@swapnaganguly1073
@swapnaganguly1073 2 жыл бұрын
It is an endgame. Super complicated no matter what. You can get a draw in a QK v K.
@satwik1268
@satwik1268 2 жыл бұрын
@@swapnaganguly1073 you mean, king queen and king pawn, right?
@swapnaganguly1073
@swapnaganguly1073 2 жыл бұрын
@@satwik1268 not only that endgame but also a king alone endgame
@dariogreggio7981
@dariogreggio7981 2 жыл бұрын
@@satwik1268 he's talking about the stalemate if you promote to a queen instead of rook in this puzzle
@kruksog
@kruksog 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, but kind of depressing in making me realize how terrible my endgames are.
@mugbhary
@mugbhary 2 жыл бұрын
Same feeling
@albertbatfinder5240
@albertbatfinder5240 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I watched and realised I could never think this out for myself.
@PinkasBrown44
@PinkasBrown44 2 жыл бұрын
Most people invest time in openings and mid-game study, because that´s where most games are decided. You don´t suck at end-game. You just haven´t been willing to invest more time in the many end-game studies there are out there. By the way, I consider end-game to be the very essence of chess. It´s ´soul´, so to speak. Cheers.
@jarirepo1172
@jarirepo1172 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, it's really easy to improve on endgames. Openings have so many variations within them, middlegame requires lots of calculation and knowledge... of course endgames as well, but very often you are winning if you just know the basics and your opponent is just flailing around not knowing what to do.
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I found this video to be very instructive. Today I learned that I don't have the patience to get much better at chess. I have barely played in a couple of decades. I've always enjoyed chess puzzles, learning chess tactics, and messing around with seeing if I can improve my record against a program... but chess will always be a simple pastime for me. I can't imagine ever wanting to study it seriously.
@RAFAELSILVA-by6dy
@RAFAELSILVA-by6dy 2 жыл бұрын
There is actually another twist. At the beginning, after Kb5, black can pull his rook back to d2 and if white queens, then black can almost keep the king boxed in with checks on a2 and b2. This would draw if the king were on b1 instead of a1. But, with the black king on a1, the white king can zig-zag down to reach c3 where the checks run out.
@kvlpnd
@kvlpnd 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is a break there when white king reaches c2 or c3. Then white can make queen.
@TheDandonian
@TheDandonian 2 жыл бұрын
@@kvlpnd The rook would then check the king and take the queen for the draw.
@kvlpnd
@kvlpnd 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDandonian yupp didn't see that.
@alexsunrick3079
@alexsunrick3079 2 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same thing
@amongaming2660
@amongaming2660 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexsunrick3079 but the rook will get eaten at c3 cuz the black king no longer protects it
@JoanDArc77
@JoanDArc77 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this I figured everyone would consider it a win for White after getting his king down to c1 but then I saw black's move to rd4 followed by rc4ch, qxc4 and stalemate - it never once crossed my mind to promote to a rook which prevents the stalemate and threatens checkmate - a great lesson in thinking outside the box!
@jennifermeech4006
@jennifermeech4006 2 жыл бұрын
Am 64th like
@benoitb.3679
@benoitb.3679 2 жыл бұрын
You weren't lying, this is truly fascinating. I started playing chess on 5th May 2021 and I am in love. So much to explore, to seek to understand. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@miserableenclosure
@miserableenclosure 2 жыл бұрын
Thats my birthday!!
@BenLaSoul908
@BenLaSoul908 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the movie Fresh
@djordje6937
@djordje6937 2 жыл бұрын
@@miserableenclosure Mine too
@siddhantjhaveri
@siddhantjhaveri 2 жыл бұрын
I started about the same time too! What's your rating?
@vessaryanbernard7594
@vessaryanbernard7594 2 жыл бұрын
Happy one year anniversary of playing chess
@user-eh9gk5uq2r
@user-eh9gk5uq2r 2 жыл бұрын
In other words: Never leave your king on A1. Joke aside, cool study. Thanks for sharing.
@walterkoziol3822
@walterkoziol3822 2 жыл бұрын
Never leave the king on a corner piece.
@lammatt
@lammatt 2 жыл бұрын
Never leave your black king on a1
@RMF49
@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite composition of all time. Crazy how much tactics there can be with so few pieces.
@wooshbait36
@wooshbait36 2 жыл бұрын
This is super simple tactic. I'm a chess hustler
@yyyyyk
@yyyyyk 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! This is why I like long time controls in chess. It allows you to calculate your opponent's next moves and find clever solutions, and that's what I enjoy most. No one has time to calculate all of these positions in blitz or bullet, so this beautiful puzzle would end in stalemate on one of the first moves, which isn't as exciting. Thank you, NM Nelson!
@jamesmakume2630
@jamesmakume2630 2 жыл бұрын
Once you've played against many cheaters, you'll value bullet and blitz.
@yyyyyk
@yyyyyk 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmakume2630 then the final best option is over-the-board with long time controls. (maybe not so much during the pandemic though...)
@reed6514
@reed6514 2 жыл бұрын
I really like 10 minute games. Some room for cleverness, but stays at a good pace. If i think too much, it's kinda tiring, so longer games can be draining for me
@guywithnoname9302
@guywithnoname9302 2 жыл бұрын
@Ruhan Time control???? You need time to look at an engine duh. Even the engines that automatically play moves can’t keep up
@lammatt
@lammatt 2 жыл бұрын
I think titled players can all see through this to the end in a couple seconds
@Nuffsed81
@Nuffsed81 2 жыл бұрын
That is actually amazing. The only time I've seen an under-promotion for a good reason. Every time I've ever promoted under a q it's not been necessary, I just did it for style. This study it's essential. It's very interesting because the stalemate would have got me without doubt....it won't now thanks to this video. Thanks
@alexlowe2054
@alexlowe2054 2 жыл бұрын
Often times engines will under promote because having a rook makes calculations easier, and there's no functional difference between winning with a queen or winning with a rook. There's value in removing your ability to accidentally stalemate an opponent.
@Nuffsed81
@Nuffsed81 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexlowe2054 I often think about promotion to a rook but something tells me it's not worth the "risk" and to just get the Queen. No idea why, because what you say is true and its easy enough to mate with rook. Next time I will go with rook for fun, u didn't see any difference at my level. 1250-1350
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nuffsed81: "The only time I've seen an under-promotion for a good reason." Another huge exception is when making your pawn a knight gives you an instant checkmate. I always like to keep in mind that the Knight is the only piece that can regularly move in ways that the Queen cannot. (I say "regularly", to account for the special moves: castling, and the 3 special pawn moves.)
@Nuffsed81
@Nuffsed81 2 жыл бұрын
@@UTU49 what are the three special pawn moves?
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nuffsed81 I'm referring to the optional 2-square first move, pawn promotion, and the en passant capture. If you're unfamiliar with any of these moves, there should be lots of videos that cover them.
@Creeperking-bw7wi
@Creeperking-bw7wi 2 жыл бұрын
4:24 Eric Roses loves this move
@ThePawnslayerChessVideos
@ThePawnslayerChessVideos 2 жыл бұрын
The Barbier-Saavedra position! There is an interesting history to this problem. Barbier first published this in a Glasgow newspaper: He was an accomplished chess problemist. There he said it was a draw due to the stalemate trick at the end. Barbier then went to France on holiday (where he was from originally) where he died after a short illness. A Spanish priest called Saavedra, who was also living in Glasgow at the time, then sent in his revised solution to this problem with the rook promotion. Saavedra was far from a strong player, yet found the solution to this hard endgame!
@grizzii2149
@grizzii2149 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a very basic thing, to promote rook instead, as the diagonal is only thing which is creating trouble. M very beginner but as soon as I saw there was stale mate, I thought okay, I can replace it with rook.
@worldofwarpool5379
@worldofwarpool5379 2 жыл бұрын
​@@grizzii2149 you gotta see that the rook against rook is not a draw snyways
@johncarlisle621
@johncarlisle621 2 жыл бұрын
@@grizzii2149 chess theory has obviously advanced since the origin of this particular study in the latter part of the 19th century
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 жыл бұрын
@@grizzii2149 If I were ever in a position where promoting to a Queen lead to stalemate, and promoting to a Rook led to a win -- and I REALIZED it in time to win -- I would be SOOO proud of myself. :)
@grizzii2149
@grizzii2149 2 жыл бұрын
@@UTU49 literally, I am the guy whose queen 30% times die because I could not see basic fork, pin, pawn attacks etc. I always check for stale mate, because I win less, and so when m winning, I make sure to check stale mate at every move 😂.I think may be at that time there was no rule that u can bring anything, later because of this game, maybe they changed the rule
@Kubooxooki
@Kubooxooki 2 жыл бұрын
I love this study. I learned it from Irving Chernev's "Practical Chess Endings." So glad you shared it!
@armandasrumsas7520
@armandasrumsas7520 Жыл бұрын
the most amazing thing with this composition is that the author created it as a 'fancy sequence of moves' leading to the draw after the stalemate. and it was another person who had the idea of promoting to a rook. it is the only case in the history of composition that I have heard such a story
@YonyBear
@YonyBear 2 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite kinds of videos! Thanks for sharing!
@ajarnray4115
@ajarnray4115 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that stalemate trick was awesome very nice example of a super tricky endgame.
@pascaldegroote9813
@pascaldegroote9813 2 жыл бұрын
i almost always take tower insteed of queen just to avoid those problems.
@welhalm8278
@welhalm8278 2 жыл бұрын
Tower??
@levistepanian5341
@levistepanian5341 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really neat study, I be always loved under promoting because it’s so rare, but this is a realistic position that could occur in game.
@jackdesparrow3284
@jackdesparrow3284 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you will share more about end game and opening tactics. There are so many things to learn for a beginner like me.
@3trilogy
@3trilogy 2 жыл бұрын
We're all learning, there's no end in sight.
@seilaoquemvc2
@seilaoquemvc2 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, i saw the position and immediately thought “there’s no way this is not a draw”…. You learn something every day hahah
@krishradio1
@krishradio1 2 жыл бұрын
In an actual game under time pressure it can go either way. Wow even a seemingly simple position has so much depth.
@warmike
@warmike 2 жыл бұрын
Under time pressure, I doubt anyone short of a titled player could convert Queen vs Rook.
@cfgauss71
@cfgauss71 2 жыл бұрын
See this is the difference between Nelson and many other channels. His thumbnails are never clickbait. That was truly AMAZING!!!
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I gave your comment a thumbs up before noticing that it was you. cutmrw fmw
@yongzarizeternalv5536
@yongzarizeternalv5536 2 жыл бұрын
I could understand your explanation even though I'm not good at English! Thanks for your brilliant tip and easy-to-understand pronunciation!
@petersiegfriedkrug
@petersiegfriedkrug 2 жыл бұрын
i´ve made a study with the ending of this Saavedra position and published it in The Problemparadise. If the black king would on b1 or other squares, the Saveedra position does not work
@Interesting_Failure
@Interesting_Failure 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:40 Kc3 deserves a little more analysis, I think; by that point, if the opponent plays Rd1 you can play Kc2 and it stops the skewer. However, they can then play Rb1; you can promote, but they can check on b2, recheck on the a file or the back rank if you try to use them, and skewer you again unless you play exactly Kc3. From there, I think you'd have to maneuver your queen to either c1 or a3 with the right set of circumstances to take the rook; moving the king away lets them check you again until you re-threaten the rook at which point it pisses off back to b2, and the king can just cycle between a1/a2/b1 unless you start applying queen checks. There's either a mate sequence from there or Black can keep evading forever, but it's like 1AM and I'm too tired to try and sequence the whole thing. I'm sure the analysis has been done on the position elsewhere, but still.
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 жыл бұрын
That would result in an endgame of queen vs rook. White should win that, but it can take many moves. Getting a rook is a sure win right away.
@zanti4132
@zanti4132 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Kc3 can be played as well as Kb3, since the skewer try after Rd1 is thwarted by Kc2. However, we've reached the same position as in the main line, so Black can still go for the stalemate trick with Rd4. A K+Q vs K+R tablebase confirms that any move along the first rank (Rb1, Rf1, etc.) is losing, but some technique is required - winning this endgame isn't easy.
@BenLaSoul908
@BenLaSoul908 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I'm thinking about it. You should make your top five or top 10 chess movies and or book lists Nelson.
@aleksandaraleksovski2423
@aleksandaraleksovski2423 2 жыл бұрын
Minor promotion, major result! Remember that the King has enormous value in the endings.
@jrousselle7828
@jrousselle7828 2 жыл бұрын
Nelson, I'm a fellow NM & I'd like to say what a FANTASTIC job you did in this video of this classic composition. Keep up the great work!
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate!
@wixom01
@wixom01 2 жыл бұрын
A good example of how rich the game of chess can be. Stockfish 14, after evaluating a mere 2 BILLION moves, has a forced mate in 25, lol!
@Eliseo_M_P
@Eliseo_M_P 2 жыл бұрын
3:37 White can play Kc3 here as well since after Rd1 there is Kc2.
@donsmith3857
@donsmith3857 2 жыл бұрын
fascinating .....thank you Nelson for all these great videos! ive learned more from watching and applying these principles than anything else
@doubleinstruments6453
@doubleinstruments6453 2 жыл бұрын
White should move rook to g2 after King c2 and then try endgame 50 moves rule or obtain stalemate staying on g 2 a2 line
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 2 жыл бұрын
5:56 Black also has Rd8. It’s much more obvious how that option loses, but it’s an option.
@AM-vr9sc
@AM-vr9sc 2 жыл бұрын
I always had one question on this study. After : Kb4, Rd4+; Cannot white play Kc3 with the exact same solution. Kc3, Rd1 Kc2, Re5 & we have reached the same position. My lingering doubt has been is there something else after W plays Kc3 Compositions many times have 1 & only 1 solution. That’s y I was wondering. But Kc3 after Rd4 also looks good to me.
@zanti4132
@zanti4132 2 жыл бұрын
Nelson, since you are such a fan of Mark Liburkin's endgame compositions, I think you'd find his variation on the Saavedra position quite interesting. As you'd expect from Liburkin, he adds an amazing new wrinkle to the position, in this case a second underpromotion! You can find the study in the Wikipedia article for the Saavedra Position.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Zanti, I'll check it out!
@kevingrupa6197
@kevingrupa6197 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall reading (a long time ago) that the composer published this as White to play and draw; it was some time before some smartie figured out that White actually wins.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that!
@onniruusunen9444
@onniruusunen9444 2 жыл бұрын
Drawing is so easy that even 800 could do it against Magnus so that can't be right
@micahdietrich7166
@micahdietrich7166 2 жыл бұрын
@@onniruusunen9444 What game was that one? I would love to see it!
@onniruusunen9444
@onniruusunen9444 2 жыл бұрын
@@micahdietrich7166 ???
@kevingrupa6197
@kevingrupa6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@onniruusunen9444 Suppose you put the rook on d5 and say Black to play and draw? Now it's an interesting study ruined by the underpromotion.
@wiscorpio72
@wiscorpio72 2 жыл бұрын
Stockfish actually sees that if black plays 2... Kb2 instead of 2... Rd4+, mate is postponed by 2 moves, and even with Kb2 it still doesn't show this line of play in this, but it is fun to see how black prevents the pawn from promoting to a queen. I have to work on my queen vs rook endgame. I remember this position in the book All About Chess by IA Horowitz. I used to get it at the library. That book had some great endgames like the 5 vertical black pawns, 3 underpromotions in 1, I'd love to get that book again.
@classymofo1059
@classymofo1059 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how many 7 minute videos you'd need to analyze your endgame when a random pawn move or random king move is a "Blunder!" according to the engine and you're just like "wdym computer? It's just some random move cuz I'm low on time"
@patrikkupec
@patrikkupec 2 жыл бұрын
4:27 how about walking the king up, attacking the rook? If he moves one higher, walk again until he runs out of space. If he moves two, you just Queen and there is no stalemate anymore. This was actually first thing that came to my mind.
@JoanDArc77
@JoanDArc77 2 жыл бұрын
Won't work because Black just plays the rook to d1 followed by rc1 check when the pawn queens.- White could even lose the game if he followed the rook too far up the c file, he'd lose the pawn whether it got promoted or not.
@Carl-Gauss
@Carl-Gauss 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I remember seeing this study in a book when I was a child and not getting it even after I read the solution but now it looks so simple! (I’ve got the sequence except the stalemate trap almost immediately and the later mentioned and the rest in ~ a minute when you said “*seemingly* winning”.) Thank you for posting this!
@Markyto973
@Markyto973 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing how much is going on with only a king and a pon !
@et6910
@et6910 2 жыл бұрын
Pawn
@Markyto973
@Markyto973 2 жыл бұрын
@@et6910 thanks
@edvinkarlsson9368
@edvinkarlsson9368 2 жыл бұрын
@@et6910 pon! Do ye not understand mere mortal?!?!?!
@reed6514
@reed6514 2 жыл бұрын
@@edvinkarlsson9368 lol. You silly
@Thikron
@Thikron 2 жыл бұрын
Good old Saavdedra position! And there's Liburkin's variant that involves promotion to all three of queen, rook and bishop in its various lines!
@bobing1752
@bobing1752 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a very difficult study, you can always find the right move by process of elimination. But the amount of tricks ends up being significant. A really cool study.
@arrestmenot
@arrestmenot 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:42 I think you can go Kc3 and if black go Rd1 you can go Kc2.
@wiktor1272
@wiktor1272 2 жыл бұрын
The real fun begins when u try to play this position against stockfish 8, he actually lets u make a queen without stealmate and in 50 moves u have to give a checkmate with a queen against rook which is not easy :D
@нермид
@нермид 2 жыл бұрын
except it is
@DougCube
@DougCube 8 ай бұрын
4:14 Seeing the line of 'promote to rook' from white if black plays Rd3d4, black can survive much longer by playing Rf3 instead and allow the queen promotion. Mate-in-20 vs mate-in-7.
@N8570E
@N8570E 2 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS AWESOME! Thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.
@cd31000
@cd31000 2 жыл бұрын
Had a fun one where I managed to safety get my pawn through my opponents pieces and promoted it into a knight of all things which ended up being the deciding factor when I pushed my opponent's king into the same corner using his own pieces and the ones defended by my knight to pin him into a loss.
@yakzivz1104
@yakzivz1104 2 жыл бұрын
Endgames are technical as hell and they are the hardest. There is no leeway for errors. Also there are nowhere near enough videos on endgames.
@perseusgeorgiadis7821
@perseusgeorgiadis7821 2 жыл бұрын
I found all the moves here but the problem is that in a real endgame, you don't know you have a win and you also have a clock so I'm 90% sure I'd have drawn this
@GrapeCheckerBoard
@GrapeCheckerBoard Ай бұрын
Now that you know this pattern, you’ll be able to recognize similar situations in your games. You won’t have to calculate as much since you’ll know how this position works.
@RikMaxSpeed
@RikMaxSpeed 2 жыл бұрын
I get a different analysis in Stockfish which is way more complex: 1. Kb5 Rd5+ 2. Kb4 Kb2 3. c8=Q - mate in 24. That’s definitely not easy for a human. Does demo how tricky this problem is!
@for4for4
@for4for4 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most eye-opening video I've ever watched about endgames.
@medexamtoolscom
@medexamtoolscom 2 жыл бұрын
1:15 "Believe it or not, even though white only has the pawn, white's actually trying to win this position". Perhaps you meant to say "black's actually trying to draw this position". Of course white wants to win. The key point however is that for black, hoping for victory is setting his sights too high and is happy to settle for a draw, while white shouldn't just TRY to win but should NOT settle for a draw.
@MistaMasta12
@MistaMasta12 2 жыл бұрын
Great position, great analysis and video! I found the correct moves, but not from the starting position. I only saw until Kc2 and thought white was winning, but there were several more accurate moves required. That’s deep 😅
@SuperFerz
@SuperFerz 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Saavedra position. I like this puzzle and the Réti endgame study.
@PinkasBrown44
@PinkasBrown44 2 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive end-game miniature. Great stuff.
@Coq7
@Coq7 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool study and good pedagogy. Keep it going man
@EliteCameraBuddy
@EliteCameraBuddy 2 жыл бұрын
5:11 you could down promote to a rook or a bishop or a knight (personally I like the knight idea because I like to jump around but that’s just my opinion)
@iwillnotwritemyrealnameher452
@iwillnotwritemyrealnameher452 2 жыл бұрын
Look, that's a 1 elo chess player
@drat7646
@drat7646 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely an “Amazing End Game” analysis, yet I’m slightly puzzled. As somewhat a novice, unless there was substantial transitions of pieces during this game (white & black on absolute opposite sides of this board) it would appear that the white pawn would need to be advancing towards the 6 to 1 rows! Did I miss something?
@superkaeldev861
@superkaeldev861 2 жыл бұрын
You aren’t missing anything, it’s just that you seem to be ruling out “substantial transitions of pieces” for some reason. That’s how endgames go - kings move all over the place, and it’s even potentially common for the kings to swap places as they try to protect pawns. Now, it is a bit odd that the black king is in the corner like that, but that could be explained in any number of ways.
@drat7646
@drat7646 2 жыл бұрын
@@superkaeldev861 Thanks for the explanation & some clarification SuperKael.
@Vearru
@Vearru 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought that an under promotion to a rook or a bishop would ever be a best move, knight is obvious as it has distinct movement options that a queen doesn’t have, but a piece that is strictly less versatile made no sense to me. But when I saw the solution of promoting to a rook my jaw dropped because I was so surprised to see that as an option. That is genuinely incredible. I’d also love to see a situation where promoting to a bishop manages to be the best choice, that would be super cool too.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Bishop underpromotion is in one of the recent videos!
@Vearru
@Vearru 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChessVibesOfficial Oh! Thank you I’ll be sure to watch that!
@ralphmerridew
@ralphmerridew 2 жыл бұрын
There's a third reason to underpromote; sometimes when you're behind an underpromotion stalemates immediately, while a queen would lose later.
@bachianm2375
@bachianm2375 2 жыл бұрын
Old but great indeed! It's nice to recall it. Thank you, master Lopez!
@reflexrefractor
@reflexrefractor 2 жыл бұрын
In the last position when it was either stopping checkmate or losing the rook after Rb4,Kxb4,Kb2 stops mate atleast for some time
@Bushchannel
@Bushchannel 2 жыл бұрын
Great lesson man!
@Lordmewtwo151
@Lordmewtwo151 2 жыл бұрын
Good commentary on c5. I thought c5 because if b5, draw by perpetual check is an option or a few moves later the same situation of draw/win for black as explained for c5. BTW, the skewer doesn't have to be c1, any spot on the c file more than one space behind the king will suffice.
@a.gabrielarchibald5291
@a.gabrielarchibald5291 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note that if the black king was in B1 instead of A1 this position would be a draw because the Rook can come to D2 and start checking the white king until he either accepts the draw by perpetual check or line up in front of the pawn/promoted piece
@saimon174666
@saimon174666 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, this is amazing, please more of these studies
@ultrametric9317
@ultrametric9317 2 жыл бұрын
Who made the study? One of the first books I read as a kid was by Chernev, "Practical Chess Endings", which was actually a book mostly of studies. I was amazed!
@vinesthemonkey
@vinesthemonkey 2 жыл бұрын
look up Saavedra endgame. probably the most famous endgame study ever
@Ratlins9
@Ratlins9 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I don’t have the depth of knowledge to have made the correct moves in this scenario but you did open my mind.
@jrviade85
@jrviade85 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 I guessed that one correct!! Yay! I'm so happy! 😛 This is a very helpful video! Thank you very much! I need a lot to learn from this situations and I've been in this type of situations in several games lol some I've won some I've lost
@AlokSingh-ld5zt
@AlokSingh-ld5zt 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@abeke5523
@abeke5523 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably the most intuitive one
@aleksandaraleksovski2423
@aleksandaraleksovski2423 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt that from a chess book in early 90's. Those days we had no any computers, but solved some problems in weekly magazines, etc. Today is totally different then 30 years ago, but chess is timeless.
@johndrake3472
@johndrake3472 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed a ton of GMs saying to master your endgame fundamentals before anything else - this here is good evidence to why.
@kabooby0
@kabooby0 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Love your straight forward manner of presenting information, it's got a more educational vibe.
@Haufen110022
@Haufen110022 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Nelson, i just saw an old video of you from one year ago. Wow! You did really get much!!! better in terms of sound quality, ambiente, upload times etc. Success is like a ketchup-bottle, you knock on it again and again and some day it all comes out :) Keep going! Cheers
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Daniel!
@leonardocavalieri526
@leonardocavalieri526 2 жыл бұрын
I really apreciated how taking a queen leads to a draw, instead you need a rook. Very clever, I didn't see that coming (I'm not that good at chess, I know)
@reinhardtwilhelm5415
@reinhardtwilhelm5415 2 жыл бұрын
I think I remember this. It’s something like 1. Kb5! Rd5+ 2. Kb4 Rd4+ 3. Kb3 Rd3+ 4. Kc2 Rd4! 5. c8=R!! Ra4 6. Kb3 and White wins, right?
@Mykareyu
@Mykareyu 2 жыл бұрын
I would never imagine that a position that looks so simple could hid such a methodic study! amazing!
@ethan073
@ethan073 2 жыл бұрын
The stalemate threat was sixk
@allanfifield8256
@allanfifield8256 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Contains some practically useful themes instead of artificial problem moves.
@hanswust6972
@hanswust6972 2 жыл бұрын
A really mindblowing strategy. Thanks for sharing and your awesome explanations.
@franklinturtle9849
@franklinturtle9849 2 жыл бұрын
3:42 Kc3 is winning as well. Try it out.
@sandman0829
@sandman0829 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your channel is so rad. Wish I found it sooner. Thanks for all the 10/10 content
@mekkler
@mekkler 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found end games to be the most complicated.
@reed6514
@reed6514 2 жыл бұрын
I do find endgames rather difficult too. With so much open on the board, just too many possibilities!
@blacknwhite5451
@blacknwhite5451 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's a huge leap of faith to move the king away from the pawn and leave it so isolated. Would never have believed it without seeing it.
@sulye4277
@sulye4277 2 жыл бұрын
But in this position 2:45 what if Rd2? if white promotes the rook will check until kc3 but kb1 what happen next?
@free3793
@free3793 2 жыл бұрын
The king will chase the rook until there are no checks
@scolley0616
@scolley0616 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on the Reti Position? White Kh8 Pawn c6, Black Ka6 Pawn h5?
@carlosgaytanacevedo3712
@carlosgaytanacevedo3712 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing position, congrats for your job, Would you be so kind to explain M. S. Liburkin, Shakhmathy vs SSSR 1931 (second price) ? It is very similar to the Saavedra Position. Best regards.
@jackmatthew1880
@jackmatthew1880 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:42 is Kc3 really a problem?
@timotheeastier249
@timotheeastier249 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it also works and leads to the same position after Kc3 Rd1 Kc2 Rd4.
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 жыл бұрын
Then black can move the rook to h4. If white gets a queen, black will give check on c4, leading to the stalemate. If white does not get a queen, the rook will move to h8 and then b8.
@timotheeastier249
@timotheeastier249 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grimlock1979 Kc3 Rh4 c8=Q Rc4+ Kxc4 (and not Qxc4) and there is no stalemate.
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 жыл бұрын
@@timotheeastier249 Oh yeah, oops. Ignore that.
@eliyasne9695
@eliyasne9695 2 жыл бұрын
5:20 What if you just played a waiting move like king to c1, making black move a piece, thus ruining his plan?
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 жыл бұрын
Then the black rook will go to c4, giving check and then taking the pawn.
@zanti4132
@zanti4132 2 жыл бұрын
There's better waiting moves, but they don't work either: Kb3 is met by Rb3+, repeating an earlier position. Kc3 allows Rc1. Then after Kc2 Black returns to the stalemate trick with Rd4! The only move to make progress is c8R!
@julianooms327
@julianooms327 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn't too hard to figure out but I definitely would have thrown the game if I actually encountered this in a match :)
@TmanWdaPlan
@TmanWdaPlan 2 жыл бұрын
That was insane! I feel both smarter and stupider.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@anomanderrake440
@anomanderrake440 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this before. Maybe in Dvoretsky’s Endgame Manual? Can’t remember if it’s in there or not but I think so.
@houtansadeghi
@houtansadeghi 2 жыл бұрын
I did not see most of these moves!! First I planned to move the king to the left and support the pawn and did not expect the basic pin….. etc etc. I spent most of the lockdown watching professional players playing each other. I should have concentrated on this channel.
@jatinverma7967
@jatinverma7967 Жыл бұрын
Loved it. I'll definitely try to play ny endgames more carefully next time.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite endgame study is W: Kd7, c7 B: Kf3, Bg6, b7. White to play and draw. An endgame study expert once told me that this was originally just a variation in a study beginning several moves earlier, and so even more difficult to find. Hint: On nearly any move from White, Bf5 is a devastating response. So... ?
@perfectionbox
@perfectionbox 2 жыл бұрын
the bestest endgame is where you let your opponent get his hopes up for as long as possible and then destroy him out of nowhere 🤣
@kidtruck9157
@kidtruck9157 2 жыл бұрын
Im so proud of myself. I'm a novice but by watching many of these vids i finally saw some of the optimal moves beforehand.
@customarylover3857
@customarylover3857 2 жыл бұрын
0:52 For a moment, I thought moving the king forward was the best move, but then I realized what Black could do in response even without Nelson explaining it. A few calculations later, I found out what the right move was: Kc5. Edit: Nvm.
@YaNykyta
@YaNykyta 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I met this problem about 52 years ago...
@Trikedin
@Trikedin 2 жыл бұрын
Kb5 because if other kingmoves it will be a pin to the king or an check from behind
@jessesnyder4566
@jessesnyder4566 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same reaction when I saw that in my copy of endgame manual
@williamsmith8640
@williamsmith8640 2 жыл бұрын
This brilliant endgame study speaks for itself
@Thebiggestgordon
@Thebiggestgordon 2 жыл бұрын
Now can you make a tutorial on how to reach this position from the starting position? Thanks for making chess fun.
@streetpokerlive7034
@streetpokerlive7034 2 жыл бұрын
famous sketch from my childhood. last move Rc4 Qxc4 stalemate
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