A closer look at the Yamaha DTX8 and DTX10 Kits with Simon Edgoose - Long Version

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Simon Edgoose

Simon Edgoose

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@jmihalich1
@jmihalich1 2 ай бұрын
This is the most comprehensive review and feature run through i have seen for these kits. Thanks for all the information in here.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 ай бұрын
No problem. Thanks for watching. Its even better now with the V2 firmware update!
@Michael-xw4er
@Michael-xw4er 4 ай бұрын
These kits look and sound gorgeous and user friendly for non tech heads. Very clear and concise explanation of all the component parts too.
@markevans2814
@markevans2814 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! You really did your homework on these products; the information that you imparted was very specific indeed. Superb. You should have at the very least 50,000 subscribers with gear reviews on that level.
@robertdore9592
@robertdore9592 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed upon, Simon does a great job of clearing the fog of terminology and jargon, however, there are a LOT of words to describe something that you're meant to hit🤣
@JoshCameron
@JoshCameron 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a fantastic presenter and explain things very clearly and concisely. Really appreciate the effort that must have gone into making this video, my DTX8K-X should arrive within the next couple weeks and I’ll be referring back to this a lot 👍🏼
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thats very kind of you Josh. Thank you.
@TarnSoftwhip
@TarnSoftwhip 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video 🙂
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
No problem Tarn! Thanks for watching
@antoniozollino4845
@antoniozollino4845 3 ай бұрын
Hi Simon, saw you at Grand designs on Sunday, I'm glad I did as your demo was great and has given me some great ideas going forward for recording which I now know this Yamaha kit can handle with ease. 👍
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 ай бұрын
Hi. Great! Thank you. Were we talking about recording without using a computer and I showed you the USB recording? Pleased you enjoyed it. Good luck with it, and give me a shout if you have any questions. Google the name in the bottom corner of the screen and you'll be able to find an email to get hold of me on. Cheers, Simon
@rhythmsaint73
@rhythmsaint73 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, This is fantastic. A very in depth review and demo. Im very sold on the pro X. I can see this being part of all that I do and for my students also. Great job as always you are the e kit guru. Best Aaron
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Aaron!
@realmusic5407
@realmusic5407 3 жыл бұрын
Christ almighty! I’m sold! That was a brilliant presentation and really easy to follow. No extraneous information or superfluous opinions, just straight up functionality talk with great explanation of utility. Thank you sir! 🙏
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for the kind words. Just trying to give people an honest appraisal of the kit. How you described it is exactly what I was aiming for!
@realmusic5407
@realmusic5407 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Indeed you have. Yamaha have done well to gain you as an ambassador. The only problem is that there are very few or next to no DTX10’s in Australia. I’ve been looking to purchase one for about two weeks now, but trying to get my hands on one or even play one is looking to be a slim chance until mid next year?! Any comments there Simon? I’m taking the presumption this is not your department? 😅😄
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@realmusic5407 It's a global problem I'm afraid - everybody is experiencing this at the moment. All the original batches of kits sold out almost instantly. I know (part of) the issue is getting gear shipped globally when there is no container space available for months. There is obviously a world wide shortage of semiconductors at the moment too, as well as general shortages of many specialised parts in all areas (cars, computers, and yes, electronic musical instruments), so manufacturing is not at a level that it should be, or was pre pandemic. It will get better, but not in the next few weeks I'm afraid. It's affecting everyone from Europe, USA, Asia and, obviously, Australia too. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but it will sort itself out. It is a massive PITA.
@dancassey7185
@dancassey7185 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Yes I see. Nice reply Simon. Thank you for that. Oh well, I've placed a 75% deposit down on the DTX-10 today with the advice that the goods will arrive in March next year. Hopefully this will be the case. What can we do when the economy comes to a grinding halt?! Thanks again for the video. Would love to see/hear a video on the preset drum kits in the DTX-10 of which there are 30 more than the DTX-8 I believe. In the meantime I guess I'll just play the waiting game now for the flagship model to arrive by ship and hopefully with a DTX10 flag!
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the sounds and how they let you shape them with ease is what sold me on these lists.
@val_de_mez
@val_de_mez 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, finally. Those yamaha shorts were quite useless. I'm happy to find out you got your own channel! 10:15 - that is exactly! why I went with dtx8m over roland td27kvx. Simple, easy, great sound - unlike roland prismatic empty bucket sound.
@timjoseph887
@timjoseph887 3 жыл бұрын
Yes had the td 17 and hoping the dtx is on a different playing field .
@val_de_mez
@val_de_mez 3 жыл бұрын
@@timjoseph887 I had such a dilemma about it. I'm really glad I went dtx
@timjoseph887
@timjoseph887 3 жыл бұрын
@@val_de_mez I got a dtx pro and happier with it than TD17
@godsfinalpleaministries
@godsfinalpleaministries 5 ай бұрын
Super informative!!! I've started my research into the DTX8 and you have been VERY helpful in guiding my decision. I was looking at the Roland td17KVX2 before, but now I am leaning towards the DTX8. Thank you so much. Very nicely done. Please stay the course!
@steenwaldorf4782
@steenwaldorf4782 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Simon, keep em coming 😉
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steen. Will do!
@2002drumsonly
@2002drumsonly 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You jumped right out of my laptop screen with that intro, well done. Caught my attention for sure with quality content.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@devilsden2283
@devilsden2283 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video Simon...ordering the DTX8 tomorrow & selling the Roland....thank you brother....👍
@philipeccles7143
@philipeccles7143 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, outstanding presentation. We met at the UK Drum show earlier this year when I tried the Latest DTX kits. I now have a DTX10Pro X. Unbelievable responses from these wonderful TCS heads. I’m think I’ll need a work shop or two to get acclimatised to the abilities of this kit.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil! Good to hear from you. Did I give you my email address at the show? If not, go to my website (same as the name above - eDrum....com and you can get hold of me through that. Let's get you sorted out. Talk soon, Simon
@stevecoscia
@stevecoscia Жыл бұрын
This is an informative video. Best video I've seen on these Yamaha kits. Thank you.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. Have an excellent weekend!
@francescolongo1664
@francescolongo1664 3 жыл бұрын
Now we Need the new multipad 🖤
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Best one on these kits yet!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@huubdrums
@huubdrums 3 жыл бұрын
Simon thanx so much for this wonderful informative video!!! 👍🏻🙂
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My pleasure
@esphilee
@esphilee 3 жыл бұрын
That was a comprehensive review, well put together. I am using a DTX700 kits, these new drum-kits seem like light-years ahead.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@domcasemore3812
@domcasemore3812 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really wasn’t sure what the differences between the different modules where! Great comparison 💪🏾
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dom!
@riffsuandi
@riffsuandi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon for the super in-depth details. Appreciate the presentation. Great job and effort! 🔥🔥🔥
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marks3072
@marks3072 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the DTX10 mesh today through Sam Ash in Florida. Should be here in a couple days. I've been using your video(s) to learn. Thank you for all of your time and efforts!
@saimaanorppa
@saimaanorppa 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get the TCS version or the mesh? How do you feel about your decision?
@coreyfranco8217
@coreyfranco8217 3 жыл бұрын
Preordered the dtx8m and am so excited
@eddaymusic
@eddaymusic 6 ай бұрын
Are you pleased with the DTX8M? Had you tried the TCS version? I play guitar, but am seriously thinking about getting a set of e-drums. Thanks!
@coreyfranco8217
@coreyfranco8217 6 ай бұрын
@@eddaymusic honestly, mesh is better as it more easily allows you to transfer to other electric drums and even acoustic. The TCS are great don’t get me wrong and feel amazing, but if you’re just learning and plan on sticking with it, I’d go with the mesh.
@eddaymusic
@eddaymusic 6 ай бұрын
@@coreyfranco8217 Thanks for the advice! I will go with mesh, when the time comes. I would love to get the DTX8M by the end of 2024. Much appreciated 👍
@coreyfranco8217
@coreyfranco8217 6 ай бұрын
@@eddaymusic enjoy and hope it inspires!
@miketheflyingsnail7319
@miketheflyingsnail7319 2 жыл бұрын
Best review i've seen so far. Thanks for this great work.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike. Much appreciated
@iceney
@iceney 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Simon for making this video. Very in-depth with tons of absolutely useful information that helps me decide which one to buy. Really appreciate the effort!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thanks for watching
@miketurnbull7410
@miketurnbull7410 Жыл бұрын
Just bought my DTX8 today so this has been very interesting and useful. Many thanks. Ain't drumming and KZbin great?!!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 11 ай бұрын
Good! Thank you!
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
I`ve studied the manuals for the Pro & ProX modules back to back, and when it comes down to it, if you aren`t using the kit for Live performance and Bluetooth isn`t important to you, all you are really losing on the Pro is a little extra velocity layering on the cymbals & hats + 3 delay & 3 overdrive effects. The same 400 sounds and oh yes, 10 less kit constructions. These modules are excellent value for the money and in my opinion, their set up is far better than competitors because you can take all the studio dry recorded kits and make them anything you want. It`s time for me to upgrade.
@markadamson5798
@markadamson5798 2 жыл бұрын
I have a set of DTXtream IIs, and I LOVE EM!!!. Almost 20yrs old and they can do all those things as well! Remember?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
I do remember the DTXtreme11s. It was great kit, but those 20 years have allowed for some pretty big advances, like new FX, the multilayer sample loading, the massive editing ability and the track playback for example. Plus I don't miss hunting for Smart Media cards to load and save samples! But yes, I loved my DTXT11s. If you get the chance to try one of these, I think you'll be surprised. Thanks for getting in touch.
@swingstylez
@swingstylez Жыл бұрын
I have a DTX6K2 and love watching your vids to learn more about the DTX-PRO module. Hope you're getting paid the big bucks by Yamaha!!
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You said you can’t show the positional sensing on the snare because you only have the mesh heads? Does that mean this only works with the silicone heads?
@DerekHung1985
@DerekHung1985 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the most detailed explanation video! It really helps when choosing electronic drums!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thank you Derek
@williamcorcoran8842
@williamcorcoran8842 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! You’ve saved me hours and helped me make the right decision for me!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi William. Great! Whatever decision that was, I hope you're very happy with it!!
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
I really need to try one of these kits. I currently have a Roland VAD 507 but I always hear good things about Yamaha's feel of the kit.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
You need to try the TCS (silicone pads). The mesh feels like mesh, but the TCS is something else.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
I`ve been drumming for 44 years now and actualy owned the first TAMA electronic kit. It`s been interesting watching the evolution of electronic drumming. I`m liking where Yamaha is headed with these kits. The Pro`s: 1] The pricing is more reasonable by far than Roland. 2] The rack sytem is the way to go because if you take your time, you can hide the wires more effectively. Visible wiring is a negative for sales. The hex rack also looks cool. Remember: drummers like to sound great but they also want to look cool. Keep that in mind when you design a kit. Ignoring that hurt the electronic drum market for years. 3] The ability to import sounds and do multi sampling in order to make the sounds non repetitive and more natural sounding is genius. Keep going with that. If you offered multi layer sample packs for download and even if you charged for it, guys would buy it once they understood the advantages of it. You have an edge on your competition with this feature. 4] The DTX10 module looks very user friendly. 5] The new silicone heads seem like a good move, allowing for better positional sensing. 6] Hiring Simon to explain the nuances of these kits with reference points on the video and his ability to explain technical concepts easily is huge. Great work Simon! 7] Offering studio recorded samples in their natural state and allowing the user to add FX, compression, ambience is brilliant. That`s a huge selling point. Here are my suggestions for Yamaha`s next incarnation: 1] make a larger kick drum, maybe an 18" at least to balance out the asthetic of the kit. 2] Offer more appealing finishes like GEWA is doing. 2] Make the cymbals a little funkyier looking and edgy. A little more golden colour would be nice if possible. 3] Work towards offering a Digital snare like Roland. I think thats the wave of the future for electronic drumming. 4] A bigger coloured screen on your module is a good idea. Guys don`t like tiny gray screens. 5] Make your drums look more like real drums [still shallow like the TAYE Go Kit] with mesh bottom heads to facilitate air flow. That`s my two cents worth. Having said all that, I don`t need another electronic kit but if Yamaha made some or all of those improvements, I would be buying a new kit. They would be irresistable. I say all this because I believe Yamaha has the most potential to corner the electronic drum market. Roland has gotten cocky and have gone crazy in their pricing. Yamaha has the best shot of taking them down.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to write. I'm afraid these come directly to me (its my KZbin channel) but I'm sure Yamaha do see them. I agree with pretty much all you've said, which is always nice! So thank you!
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo thanks! I took the time to write because I’ve seen you are very responsive to your forum. My hope is that Yamaha will also take the time to check their feedback, especially your channel because nobody does a better job explaining these kits. I’ve watched a lot of the others and your level of detail is unmatched. I believe that whichever company takes drummer feedback the most seriously and addresses the common themes will become the king of the market. Yamaha certainly have the resources to make it happen as they’re a massive company and are already known for their high quality. Keep up the good work Simon because people are definitely listening and are making purchases based on your information.
@guilhermecaran3363
@guilhermecaran3363 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guilherme!
@cbav8r
@cbav8r 4 ай бұрын
Since the DTX8 doesn't have BT built into the module, is there any reason you can't just plug in an inexpensive 3.5mm BT receiver to give it that capability?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 4 ай бұрын
Nothing at all! It works very well.
@TERFClub
@TERFClub 3 күн бұрын
What a brilliant video, I just bought one of these kits to learn on and got the it’s CTS foam and feels so much nicer than mesh. Also the sounds are superior to Roland imho
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 күн бұрын
Well thank you! Pleased you enjoyed it.
@Kangrulls
@Kangrulls 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, as always. thanks simon!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thanks Kang
@manuger
@manuger 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and well detailed. I am looking for an electric drum set, so now I have a better idea in what to get. Thank you!!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and good luck
@sunnibird
@sunnibird Жыл бұрын
Is the snare and ride comparable to the digital versions on the TD27?
@rcprod9631
@rcprod9631 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is the first one to peak my interest in these kits. Great job! I have a TD-17KVX kit and imho, this Yamaha kit blows mine away sound wise. I just demoed a TD-50K2 kit and same result in comparing the sound with this kit. A bit of a fail regarding the cross-stick implementation on this kit compared to the TD-27 and TD-50x modules with the PD-140DS digital snare pad.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Good! I'm pleased it has. Regarding the cross stick - the PD140DS cost a similar amount to the DTXpro module by itself. I'd prefer to have a great sounding and reasonably priced kit, rather than increase the price of the kit by a significant amount just to play cross stick, but each to their own. I agree totally - sound wise - really good. Thanks for watching.
@rcprod9631
@rcprod9631 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Yeah, I agree with that. Hopefully I'll get to try one of these kits out at my local Long & McQuade store. Cheers!
@EqDior
@EqDior 2 жыл бұрын
very detailed and pro review! Awesome!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
That opening kit sounds SICK!!
@henkaingberg
@henkaingberg 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation and explanation!!! Many thanks and of course a sub!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you Henka! I appreciate that!
@rebelrioX
@rebelrioX 3 жыл бұрын
Damn the sounds are like a good vst! Yamaha modules are fairly impressive!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Good! I'm pleased you think so. That was the plan so pleased its impressed you! Thank you
@DimebuckeR777
@DimebuckeR777 3 жыл бұрын
I've preordered a dtx10x about 2 weeks ago. I'm upgrading from the old DTXpress IV v2 kit and have been binge watching all these videos that have been coming out. Really great insights to all the features here. One thing i've wondered, is there any reason why the kick pad is mesh only and not TCS? Thanks for the deep dive!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because when you play over the surface of a drum, playing at different angles on different hits (as we all naturally do) feels different for every hit. When you are playing a bass drum pedal, the beater is only hitting on point so as long as that one point feels good it doesn't matter what material it is. TCS didn't offer any advantages when just hit in one place, so (much cheaper) mesh was chosen.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the silicone heads? Are you happy with that and you’re overall choice? I’m considering the same kit. Thanks
@rtroiani
@rtroiani 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very well detailed!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thanks Rick
@pabloagredaayala9724
@pabloagredaayala9724 3 жыл бұрын
Are the old tcs snares capable of positional sensing with the new modules?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but as they work on proximity to the central piezo, the bigger the pad, the better. It would be hard to hear on an 8" TCS pad but easier on a 12" TCS pad.
@richarddib
@richarddib 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comprehensive review.... you convinced me to buy this kit instead of the Roland
@ProGames-sn6ev
@ProGames-sn6ev 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, i have a question about the dtx pro: how can i disable sending midi cc? Our Keyboarder Changes my Kits via usb midi, but when i touch the wheel of the DTX the Keyboarder get‘s in Trouble with mainstage…Kind Regards
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Alexander. Ok, well if this were me, I'd say it was his problem to sort out! MainStage can filter midi data coming in, so he may be able to use that to remove the program change date. If he can't, then there is another way - First, unplug the USB cable you are using to connect the module to the Mac. Second, use a USB to MIDI cable from the computer running MainStage and only plug in the MIDI IN socket in the back of the module. That way NO midi program change (MPC) data can be sent back to the computer at all as there is nothing connecting the midi out to the computer. However, this doesn't work if you need to send midi data to him, but I'm guessing you don't if you are using MainStage to change kits for you. Would that work for you?.
@elliestevens9204
@elliestevens9204 6 ай бұрын
I'm assuming you could add another shell design tom. For a total of 4 toms. How many more toms ( shell design) and cymbals can you add with splitters? Would it also cause to lose zones?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Yes, you can add another 3 zone pad (like a cymbal) into input 14, and split the toms and kick to add another 4 mono pads if necessary. Like any kit, when you add a splitter to an input you lose a zone on the original pad. However, seeing as most drummers dont play their tom rims as separate zones its not often missed. So yes, potentially you could have kick, snare, hi hat, 4x three zone cymbals and 7 toms if required.
@cdnmetaldrummer
@cdnmetaldrummer 3 ай бұрын
Can you connect this kit using the module to a DAW like Reaper/Cubase ect to record the drum tracks as individual tracks so as to edit/mix on the DAW Considering getting the YAMAHA DTX10KXBF Any feedback would be appreciated Thnx in advance
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 ай бұрын
The DTX10 has stereo audio over USB, not multitrack, but to be honest I would do what everyone does, and use a VSTi library on the computer like EZdrummer, Superior Drummer 3, Addictive Drums or BFD. These give you much greater control and power than ANY electronic kit (even those who tell you they are as good as a VSTi!) and you control it via MIDI. Much easier, much better audio quality.
@guilhermecaran3363
@guilhermecaran3363 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, does the DTX-PROX comes with some sort of pre-set configuration (or kit) to play with brushes?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. No it doesn't. Obviously you can load brush hits in a samples (and I did recently just to test something) but there is no "Brush Kit' in with module. The fact that you can only use nylon brushes with mesh heads, rather than wire brushes, prevents many serious brush users from using electronics, when an acoustic kit with brushes is more realistic and can be kept quiet. The demand just wasn't there I'm afraid to make it a priority.
@guilhermecaran3363
@guilhermecaran3363 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo That is totaly understandable. Thank you for the reply.
@vladimirackermann6182
@vladimirackermann6182 9 ай бұрын
Soundwise it beats every other brand for sure!
@adammammana367
@adammammana367 3 жыл бұрын
I have a DTX790k its basically the flagship with the 700 series module and hex rack. But I got a hex rack II now. I need a new snare I cut the silicone portion some how and the replacement will be the black snare. I’ll slowly upgrade to all acoustic looking pads. Silicone though. Kit is amazing.
@guilhermecaran3363
@guilhermecaran3363 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, what cleaning products do you recommend (besides damp cloth and water) for the TCS surfaces? Thanks.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Guilherme. Just a damp cloth and a little bit of detergent if it is actually dirty (grey) but most of the time, just a damp cloth should get rid of the worst. Anything apart from water could dry out the top layer so I would only use detergent if really neccesary.
@joelpb2298
@joelpb2298 Жыл бұрын
If you had to choose between dtx 8 and 27kv.. what would you prefer.. ? your opinion would be very helpful.. as I’m looking for one to buy.. thank you
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
You are asking the wrong person! I was involved in the development of the DTX8 so I know it very well. From a sound point of view, I think the DTX8 is MUCH more powerful, and much more realistic sounding in a mix. This is mostly down to the fact that the Yamaha uses samples (digital recordings of real drums), whereas the Roland uses modelling (composite sounds put together from various individual parts of drum and cymbal sounds). I have never met a person who bought a Roland kit for the sonic realism. However, you are the only person who knows what you want. Go and try them both and make up your own mind. Don't be persuaded by anyone (including me), especially if they are trying to get a sale from you (such as any video, music store staff, sales rep etc). Good luck.
@Garrett-In-Canada
@Garrett-In-Canada Жыл бұрын
curious with these sort of kits can you have both the song from say a laptop and the drums come through the headphones? also can these be reversed for left handed?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
Yes, and yes! I hope that helps.
@Garrett-In-Canada
@Garrett-In-Canada Жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo totally thank you these seems like the best bang for the buck. I’m new to drumming so I want something that I won’t be wanting to upgrade I’m a year or 2. Unless you have any other suggestions. Also the key goal here is I don’t want my wife complaining cause she can’t watch tv in another room lol
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
@@Garrett-In-Canada Sounds perfect then!
@retrobots_music
@retrobots_music Жыл бұрын
Do you think Yamaha will be able to make positional sensing available for the three trigger mesh head snare? Pearl managed to do this for the mimic pro in an update so it might be possible!?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
Sure. 100%
@alexriquelme
@alexriquelme 3 жыл бұрын
So useful! Thanks
@chrissykes5576
@chrissykes5576 Жыл бұрын
Please could you explain certain pad inputs on the module being labelled as two inputs in one socket? This must be to add extra pads I guess. Does this mean using a twin cable with, at the module end, a stereo plug going into the stereo socket on the module, then dividing at the other end with two mono plus into two separate pads? But the pads are 2-zone I gather, so not sure how that works with mono signal.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Have a look at this. Hopefully it will help www.dropbox.com/s/kjzxak06k6dusbh/Understanding%20Yamaha%20Trigger%20Inputs.pdf?dl=0
@mehdibennadji1839
@mehdibennadji1839 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, thank you for your video 😊 A few questions about the 8 individual outputs on the dtx pro x module: does it mean that you can have 8 separated elements of the drum kit recorded on 8 different tracks on your recorder, and not only a left and right master output recorded on 2 tracks? What kind of jack do you plug on those inputs? Maybe a stereo input on one side and two mono outputs on the other side? And what 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 is associated to? Thank you very much
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes that is what the 8 individual outpour are for. You can decide which instrument goes down each output inside the module. each output can be a stereo output or 2 mono outputs, so you can send instruments as 4 stereo pairs, OR you can use a splitter cable and have each instrument coming down one of 8 mono cables (which is exactly how it would be if you were recording an acoustic drum kit with a single microphone - bass drum through 1, snare through another etc).
@mehdibennadji1839
@mehdibennadji1839 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo great, thank you Simon And of course, every dtx pads are compatible on that module? (Xp120sd, xp70, 80, kp90 etc)
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@mehdibennadji1839 Yes, the pads are backwards and forwards compatible. The only thing which won't work is the red controller knob on the older XP pads as that was 900, 700 and 502 modules only.
@mehdibennadji1839
@mehdibennadji1839 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo ok thank you...and a last question: can i load the user kits i created on the dtx pro module in the dtx pro x or not?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@mehdibennadji1839 Yes, you can, but not the other way. Any kits you create on the Pro and load into the ProX will automatically sound better in there ProX as there are more layers in the samples of the ProX .
@giannispan8129
@giannispan8129 2 жыл бұрын
In the yamaha dtx10pro is there the possibility of expansion by adding a second floor tom and a third crash cymbal?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Input 14 is a 3 zone input as is not used as standard so will take another 3 zone cymbal pad. You can add another tom into the shared input of the kick pad (or tom 1, 2, or 3). So, yes, you can.
@giannispan8129
@giannispan8129 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo as for recording video recording via android smartphone from a backing track song, does it save it separately from the drum recording? I haven't understood from the video on you tube
@mehdibennadji1839
@mehdibennadji1839 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, is it possible on the dtx pro module to have 2 differents sounds on only one zone of a pad (in my case the xp 120 sd, in the center of the pad), i'd like to have a ghost note snare sound when i hit soft BUT an open rim sound when i hit hard and this ONLY on the center of the pad, is it possible? And how to obtain it? Thank you
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mehdi. Yes, of course you can and easily too. Select the kit you want. Go to Menu, then Voice. Press Enter. Scroll down and select the voice you want for your loud back beat (open rimshot in your case). Scroll down a couple of pages until you see VelLo (Velocity Low). This is the level at which the loud sound will kick in, so try turning this to 80 (you can always change it later). Now you have set the loud snare sound to play between 80 and 127 (max volume). Then press F3 (TRG - right hand button under screen), press F1 (Layer) so the module changes to Layer B, and press F2 (Pad Lock) so the module stays on Layer B). Press Exit. Change VelHi (Velocity High) to 79 - you have now set the ghost note layer to only play up yo velocity 79. After that, the loud layer will take over. Scroll up a couple of pages and you will see that Voice Number says 0:[No Assign]. Change it to select the voice you want for your ghost note. Press F3 (TRG) and press F2 to turn off the Pad Lock. Now when you play up to a velocity of 79, you'll get one sound, and 80 or higher you'll get your loud sound. It looks complicated but when you know how to do it, it takes about 1 minute or less. You can change the point at which the sound changes from low to high by changing the VelLo on the loud sound, and VelHi on the ghost note. Just make sure you change both of them, but you can leave both on so you have 2 snare sounds if you want. Its all down to you. I hope that helps.
@mehdibennadji1839
@mehdibennadji1839 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo thank you very much for those precious informations Simon 🙏 cheers
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, have Yamaha discontinued the XP pads in favour of these? I know they still do the XP80, but the 110 and the 120SD/T pads?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen, I believe they are still current for the moment. They were put in a price list I was involved with recently so are still available.
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo ah fair enough. I got a full set of them using an eDrumin. And they’re hands down my favourite pad to play.
@luismendieta6348
@luismendieta6348 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon!! Do you know if these new pads are going to be compatible with previous Yamaha modules such as the DTX700? I really would like to upgrade my snare pad with one of these. Thanks!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Luis. Yes they are compatible. However, as all the inputs on the DTX700 module are 3 zone inputs, you will have to use a splitter cable and have the new pad going into 2 separate trigger inputs - one for the head, and one for the rim. This is because the new pads are piezo/piezo rather than piezo switch like the ones on your kit.
@luismendieta6348
@luismendieta6348 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Got it! Thank you so much for your answer! I hope individual pads be available soon.
@RN-qy1cz
@RN-qy1cz 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon. Can I add an additional crash to the PRO X module via the KP128 Input? I already have an additional tom that I have connected at the 14 input. Thanks a lot.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes you can, but I would do it a slightly different way. I would plug your tom 4 into the bass drum (or use a splitter in the back of the module for convenience) and I would plug the cymbal pad into input 14. In this way, you can have a full 3 zone cymbal pad (bell, bow and edge and choke), as 14 is a 3 zone input, and have tom 4 as a mono pad. It won't take long to swap them over and a minute per kit to swap the sounds, but it would be a much better option for playability.
@RN-qy1cz
@RN-qy1cz 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thanks a lot!!!! I will do it this way. Greetings from germany.
@philrhodes3985
@philrhodes3985 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks. Just a couple of questions: 1. Can you move the module to the left or between hihat and snare? 2. What are cymbal rolls like on these kits? Thanks
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil. Yes you can mount the module to the left. There no rack there to put it on, but the module holder fits into the base section of any Yamaha cymbal stand so you can put it where you want it. You'll have to re mark-up the cable loom with new names (or remember where each one goes), but thats easy. As for cymbal rolls... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eISte4B3jqhsi8k
@Steve2112Rocks
@Steve2112Rocks 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to add another Tom pad? I would really like a two up two down set up.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. If you split the tom inputs you can actually add another four toms.
@Steve2112Rocks
@Steve2112Rocks 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thank you Simon!
@YouDepaTube
@YouDepaTube 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a big difference in sound quality & functionality between the dtx pro and the dtx pro x? Thanx
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Functionality - big difference, but it depends on what you need to do with it. Live gigging - definitely ProX. Home use - Pro is fine.As far as sounds go, there are more in the ProX and they have greater detail, but many drummers won't be able to hear the difference if they are using cheap headphones or a small amp. Through a big PA or in a good quality recording, yes, you'd hear it.
@danielconnolly8565
@danielconnolly8565 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Simon. I have the same hihat as you have in this video but simply cannot get it to respond in the way you have it set up. Any advice would be really appreciated! Many thanks.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel. What module do you have?
@shawdlc9212
@shawdlc9212 3 жыл бұрын
Hi simon what do you think about these three kits im looking for...yamaha dtx10, roland td50k2 or pearl emerge?can you help me thnk you
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Go to the website in the videos watermark in the bottom right hand corner and PM me through that. I'll give you an honest opinion of all three kits. Full disclosure - In case it's not obvious so far, I did work on the development of this kit so its the closest to what I personally want and need.
@dlcro6112
@dlcro6112 3 жыл бұрын
Nice detailed and professional presentation! Could you please tell me if the 80's UK Gated kit of DTX PROX is also available on DTX PRO? If not,it may be possible to obtain the same sound of the 80's UK Gated kit using the samples and sound effects of DTX PRO? What are the differences between DTX PROX and DTX PRO regarding the quality of samples (the number of layers per sample) and the trigger settings?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The 80's UK Gated Kit isn't on the DTXPRO as a preset... but everything you need to make it is! That kit is just a combination of the right samples, and the right effects, and you will be able to get within a few % of the same sound. As far as the quality, there are more layers in the cymbal samples on the PROX (and a few more samples) but apart from that you can get both modules sounding very similar. The PRO only has the one trigger patch, whereas the PROX has 10.
@dlcro6112
@dlcro6112 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thank you very much for your prompt reply!
@ludsat1
@ludsat1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 4 channel mixing board what do I play this out of stereo? brain into speakers? ....thank you for your video
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
If I understand you correctly, just got from the master outputs (R/L) into two channels of your mixer, and pan them left and right. Thats it - nice and easy!
@colinnaidu3436
@colinnaidu3436 2 жыл бұрын
Simon. Fantastic press. Pretty much have me sold on the D8. Question. Can you assign say a cow bell sound to a rim with the existing dtx8 module? Without having to add from a computer.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Colin. Totally! Very easy. You can actually have up to 4 different sounds (stacked together or alternating) on EACH zone of EACH pad, PER kit so you really have lots you can do. Cowbell on a rim? Simple
@colinnaidu3436
@colinnaidu3436 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo fantastic. Thanks so much Simon.
@McAddress
@McAddress Жыл бұрын
Impressive video and super clear explanations, thanks! I currently own a DTX400K and seeking for a nice upgrade. After seeing a few of your videos and doing some research, I came to the conclusion that I'd like to have the DTX6K3-X but would like to replace its module for the DTX Pro X. Do you think it makes sense? Is there any way to purchase it that way? (i.e. the DTX6 kit without the module and the DTX Pro X separately) I've seen a few separate things but I still don't understand Yamaha's naming conventions (like DMR6 vs DTX Pro, the DTP62-X, the rack seems to be the RS6, dunno...) Thank you
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just go to your local Yamaha DTX dealer and explain to them exactly what you need. They will be able to order what you want.
@McAddress
@McAddress Жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thanks. I already did but no one carries it in my country, and sadly enough, as this is a terribly socialist country, nothing works well and it is almost impossible to import stuff so I cannot even order it. So I am looking at buying in the US and bringing it myself on my next trip. I even asked how much the boxes weigh but they don't know... Was wondering if you knew how to order and mainly, if it made sense to use the DTX Pro X module with the DTX6 kit. Thanks again
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
@@McAddress In which case, unless you need the individual outputs and the bluetooth (and they are ABSOLUTELY essential) then you don't benefit from getting the DTXproX module. Just get the DTX6. The modules are VERY similar, just the ProX has some more 'pro' features, but unless you are gigging it ALL the time, you probably won't need them.
@McAddress
@McAddress Жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thank you! I did like the multiple outputs and the additional analogic controls but I think you are right, most of the time I will not ABSOLUTELY need them (same as the Bluetooth). You helped me a lot, thanks!
@Jennyshalfmusic
@Jennyshalfmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon. Just got the DTXprok8-m. Things I like about it and some that I don't. It's frustrating that you can't mix each kit individually. It basically means you are stuck with one kit for a live performance and even at home when you change kit I find you have to remix the drum kit because of the differences between kits. Are there any recommended kits/sample you suggest importing in. I own SSD4 and also studio drummer, but I'm not sure if they are actually wave file samples.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can mix each kit differently. It would be fairly pointless if you couldn't. Go to Menu, Kit Edit, Volume. The top line is the whole kit volume. Second line is each pad volume (hit the pad to select it). Third line is each zone of each pad volume (hit the pad zone to select it). You can't get much more detailed in the volume tweaking than that. So once every kit it mixed to your liking, you can use the LED faders on the front (in Mixer mode) to make global changes for live, home etc. As far as samples to import, whwatever sounds good to you. I use ezDrummer2 and Superior 3 mainly because they sound good to my ears. Others might prefer Slate or GGD, but there is no right or wrong.
@Jennyshalfmusic
@Jennyshalfmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo thanks so much for replying! That's so helpful. I was used to it being with the dampening and pitch similar to roland! Just trying to import samples now and understand layering. I look forward to your in depth tutorial on that lol 😂
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jennyshalfmusic Oh... like this...kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHaqiaiHopyMnJY ? The other videos are coming!
@jacquesfontaine553
@jacquesfontaine553 2 жыл бұрын
I Simon, I must thank you again for your work with Yamaha, which is particularly useful to us. I plan to work with DTX8K (still hesitate between X or M) at home and on stage; in that last case, if possible, I want to take my real bass drum (for a better look 🙂). is there room for a 22 BD with the rack and what is the best trigging solution ? is the DT50K sufficient and reliable. in addition, I noted that you play mostly on mesh pads. why not TCS pads ? I live in an apartment and my music room is just acoustically treated. Are TCS heads really quieter ?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jaques. Thanks for getting in touch, and thanks for your kind comments. The DTX8 rack has room for a 22" bass drum. You will have to move the bottom horizontal bar up, but there is easily enough room. The DT50K is perfect. I would use a real head, or if volume is an issue, use a mesh head with the drum half full of heavy pillows to give the correct feel. I only play whatever Yamaha have got the most of. As I am one of their demonstrators, 'my' kit is whatever they have. At the moment I have a DTX8KM here in Black Forest, but before I had a DTX10KM in Real Wood. It just depends on what they have, what I am doing, and what is available globally. There is no reason why it has been mesh kits recently, it just has! I prefer TCS as I feel I can 'lay into' the pads more - I find mesh unrealistically bouncy - but I take what I can! I hope that helps. Simon
@Foozow
@Foozow 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, great video. I’m really interested in the DTX10proX but I currently have a DTXtreme 3 pad set and have noticed that the pad compatibility chart doesn’t list that the TP100/120 pads are compatible with the module. I would really like to buy just the module to replace my DTX900 module, is this possible? I noticed that you mention that with the new Snare pad you have to manually switch between rim click and rim shot, does the input accommodate a 3 zone pad to provide all 3 zones as this seems like a step backwards to me. I’ve been using Yamaha edrums since the DTXpress 1 and love the products although right now I’m tossing up between the DTX10proX and the Pearl mimic. Please give me some good news 😁😁😁
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. The new modules are a change of direction because you cant make pads with real shells and steel hoops into 3 zone pads. The snare channel and input 14 on both new modules can work with 3 zone XP pads, but the toms are piezo/piezo inputs rather than 3 zone (piezo/switch/switch). If you want to keep all the 3 zone pad ability from your existing kit, but add the better sounds and control of the Pro or ProX then your best bet would be to get one of the new modules and MIDI the 900 to the new module (MIDI out on the 900 to MIDI in on the new module - you will also need a Kenton USB MIDI Host if you go for the Pro). Then mute the heads and rim 1 of each pad (plus the cymbals and hi hat) and send the audio from rim 2 from each pad to the Aux In of the new module. Then you can play your existing pads, still have rim 2 on each pad, AND have the drum and cymbal sounds from the new module.
@Foozow
@Foozow 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thanks a lot for that detailed explanation, much appreciated. One other question, regarding the toms I would only require 2 zones of the TP100 pads (toms) and judging by you explanation the head and rim 1 would work natively, is that correct? Regarding the snare, I'd be happy to invest in a new snare pad. Also would my current hi hat and cymbals work natively? I understand that the new 17in ride input would be different. Thanks again.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foozow Hi, no the TP100 would not work natively - the head would work, but the rim on that pad is a switch, and it needs to be a piezo (sorry we are getting so technical, but it's sort of important to understand what the differences are). If you plugged a TP100 into a Pro tom input only the head would work. If you plugged it into the snare input on a Pro all 3 zones could work, but that is a switchable (different) input.
@Foozow
@Foozow 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Excellent thanks. It's never too technical when it comes to the DTX, I love this stuff. 😁 Thanks again for your advice and thanks again for the awesome breakdown videos. 👍😁
@jacquesfontaine553
@jacquesfontaine553 3 жыл бұрын
sorry, i forgot this: are you going to post a video about how to put multisamples in the DTX PRO and DTX PRO X modules.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
I checked with my Yamaha dealer to see if I could get a bigger bass drum in the matte black and apparently they’re not available, so I preordered the DTX10 anyway.
@crossphone1
@crossphone1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Do you have any idea what beater Yamaha is using in all of the promo pictures?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you. It depends on the photo shoot. The black beaters in many of the pictures that Japan did are the beaters which come with the FP9 pedal (but are available separately I believe). If its from photo shoots we did in Europe then we used the standard Yamaha hard felt beater
@timjoseph887
@timjoseph887 3 жыл бұрын
Question about the PCY155 ride cymbal on the DTX8..Sometimes I hit the edge and it's dead, no feedback, other spots on the edge trigger properly. Is there a way to adjust this or could it be a defective trigger?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it’s a defective trigger as that would normally cause the whole edge to stop working if it was damaged (but not always). What trigger setting are you using for the ride?
@timjoseph887
@timjoseph887 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo curve is set to norm.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@timjoseph887 Thats the velocity curve, not the trigger setting. Go to Menu, Trigger, Pad Type, and hit the ride (PCY155). Does it say PCY155 on the screen or does it say something else?
@timjoseph887
@timjoseph887 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo It does show PCY155. Is each zone on the ride configurable for setting norm, loud, hard etc?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@timjoseph887 The volume of each zone is editable, but not the sensivity. Like 99% of cymbal pads, the edge and the bell are switches which work off the signal being picked up by the sensor under the bow of the pad. Try following the instructions on the attached PDF just on the ride to get the sensitivity right for you. www.dropbox.com/s/iorcd8qq63s5r7m/Setting%20Up%20Triggers%20on%20DTXPROX.pdf?dl=0
@joshuagrocott
@joshuagrocott 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you the only one I can find reviewing these kits?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm not the only one!. I've seen reviews by Sweetwater, Drummers Review, Drum-Tec and others so they are out there. Also, I'm not really reviewing them, more showing what it possible, as I worked on them so I know them pretty well (I think... and hope!)
@joshuagrocott
@joshuagrocott 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo well - my dtx8k-m is coming next week, so you must have done something right...
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagrocott I can only apologise…😉 Great! Well done. You’ll love it
@peteluxx
@peteluxx 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, have a question: Does the new dtx prox module also work with the dtx8 drums (or just with the dtx 10 drums)? Cos I might want to get the dtx prox module (but I have the dtx 8 drums). Many thanks.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, ALL the pads and both modules are interchangeable so you can mix and match as much as you want (and you budget allows!)
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, I have a quick question regarding USB audio on the ProX module. Can the individual kit pieces be routed via usb Audio. Sorta like how the Efnote5 kit does? i.e. 8 usb audio channels? So the module also acts like an interface?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen. At the moment it works as a stereo 24 bit interface via USB. If you want to have everything on a track separately, this might be of use... www.edruminfo.com/articles/2021/7/11/41-tracking-edrums
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo I had a quick glance (I’m in work at the moment) so I skimmed it. But is the gist to record via midi. Get the take right, or edit until happy. Then split midi notes into their respective tracks (don’t think GarageBand can do this but Logic can) then if you really need to work with the audio. So a pass through solo’d of each midi track to put into their own audio track? I’m in the process of selling one of these kits to a friend and they’ve asked questions regarding using it with GarageBand. So just getting all the info before I report back. I highly recommend the DTX10 for the ability to use multi audio outs (amongst other reasons) Thanks for the info. Will have a better look after work.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@steevidrums No, its simpler than that, and you can totally do it on Garageband. Have a read when you have time. Basically GB plays the midi data in a loop, and you just turn up whatever you want on a particular track using the built in mixer, so kick first, snare next etc etc. Its easier on Logic as you can automate it, but it works the same
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo great. That’s the answer I was looking for. USB multi audio is nice, but as you’ve show, not the only way to get the kit into multi tracks. Besides, 8 usb channels (like Efnote) would be mono tracks anyway. The method you suggested would be as many stereo tracks as desired. I’ve understood that right?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@steevidrums Correct! You can take them in any way you want - mono, stereo etc
@hiendinh7808
@hiendinh7808 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon. can the snare buzz sound be turned off ?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
No, because theses are samples of real drums, no modelled (synthesised) sounds. If you want toms and snares without snare buzz, just find the correct samples and load them in.
@OYMInternetRadio
@OYMInternetRadio 3 жыл бұрын
Well done on this in dept tutorial. Question for you - in a live situation, being able to change from one song to another with sample sounds seems to be a problem with some kits. Do you know the latency time between changes as it would need to be quick. Do you also know the size of the memory card for smaple sounds. Cheers!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There is no delay from loading the samples between kits, but there is a delay in the effects - they have to stop, new settings are loaded, and the new sounds applied to them. So, the change in effects takes less than a second (approximately). There is no memory card - the user samples are loaded into flash memory inside the module - the internal sounds are already loaded , and play straight back from memory. So for user samples, the Pro has 64meg and the ProX has 128meg.
@OYMInternetRadio
@OYMInternetRadio 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thanks for your answer. So you are saying that the load time between sample songs would be seconds? I'm very surprised at the limited size of the memory. 128MB is nothing these days. Some kits have 16GB as you know. Do you know how many more cymbals/drums I can add on to the kit? I'd be looking to add another drum and maybe two more cymbals. The reason why I'm asking is because I have a DTX II which is past it's sell by date and I'm looking to purchase a DTX10K-M. It's a lot of money, so I want to make sure I get value for money.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@OYMInternetRadio Thats because these module work in a different way to other modules. If you just want to load in samples, then get a 2box or a Mimic, but these are MUCH more powerful and allow you to use the internal sounds and tweak them to get the sound you need - want it to sound like a '72 Gretsch? Start with the jazz toms and kick and go from there. Sound like a 1960s Ludwig? Start with the Vintage toms and kick and go from there. The effects in these are crazy, but you do need to know what you are doing to get the best from them. Most people will just use the presets ands tweak the Kit Modifiers, but there is a LOT more to these than that.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious Simon if there is a difference in feel between the two different kick pads in your opinion?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Internally they are identical. Its just the outer layer which is different. Some prefer the mesh, others the rubber. I like the feel of the rubber but the look of the mesh.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Yes I tend to really like the feel of the rubber. I’m hoping the mesh doesn’t mess that up. That’s what I was a little worried about. Thanks for your input Simon.
@tavchavez631
@tavchavez631 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Simon. great review! I currently play on my Yamaha DTXtreme III. I thinking of getting the DTXProX module and using the pads which i currently have, Is this possible? Looking to cut costs and upgrade my kit with this amazing looking module.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tav. I'm going to (almost) cut and paste an answer I left for someone earlier today as it covers exactly the same issue. Here you go... You cant just plug your existing pads into the new module and have the same functionality. The new modules are a change of direction because you cant make pads with real shells and steel hoops into 3 zone pads. The snare channel and input 14 on both new modules can work with your existing 3 zone XP pads, but the toms are piezo/piezo inputs rather than 3 zone (piezo/switch/switch) so your existing XP pads would only have a working head - not the rims. If you want to keep all the 3 zone pad ability from your existing kit, but add the better sounds and control of the ProX then your best bet would be to get one of the new modules and MIDI the 900 to the new module (MIDI out on the 900 to MIDI in on the ProX). Then mute the heads and rim 1 of each pad on the 900 (plus the cymbals and hi hat) and send the audio from rim 2 from each pad from the 900 to the Aux In of the new module. Then you can play your existing pads, still have rim 2 on each pad, AND have the drum and cymbal sounds from the new module.
@BleedingDucks
@BleedingDucks 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for the great review. Have you tried both TCS and mesh pads? Which one do you prefer and would you advise? And why? Cheers!
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you. Yes, I've played both. I have never particularly liked mesh - it feels very unrealistic to me. I feel I can 'lay into' TCS more. Mesh is very easy to play, and I think that is why it is so popular, but it just doesn't feel real, and the bounce is unrealistic. So I would have to say TCS.
@memyselfandlewii8781
@memyselfandlewii8781 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo TCS HEADS are a big reason for me to finally purchase my second electronic drum set; first one was a Roland TD7 I bought around 1997. Thanks for the video friend
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
@@memyselfandlewii8781 No problem. Enjoy the kit!
@Frankietomatoes6189
@Frankietomatoes6189 2 жыл бұрын
Simon, can I add an extra "floor tom" on the DTX PRO? Thinking about purchasing DTX8 with the wooden shells. Keep up the great work.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Frankie. Thanks, yes input 14 is free so you can add another tom pad to that. If you use one of the new tom pads, you'll only get the head option if using input 14. If you use an older 3 zone pad or a cymbal pad into input 14 you'll have 3 working zones. The pad mechanics are different from older pads to new pads.
@Frankietomatoes6189
@Frankietomatoes6189 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo thanks so much, I would add another wood shell from the DTX8 kit. Have a great day
@Frankietomatoes6189
@Frankietomatoes6189 2 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Simon can you please answer a 2nd question for me. I put an order for the dtx8 with an extra 10" tom. Where can I purchase an extra tom holder that match the kit. Looked at Yamaha I didn't see anything. What type is the holder. Thanks again for taking time to answer questions.
@moxusmedia6683
@moxusmedia6683 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I dont find the cross stick function on my DTX8 X
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
There is no button? Check what version of the software the module is running. It should be 1.05. You might need to update it.
@moxusmedia6683
@moxusmedia6683 Жыл бұрын
Hello again, there is software 1.05 and still no cross stick @@edruminfo
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
@@moxusmedia6683 OK, so go into trigger settings - Menu / Trigger / Pad Type and see what pad type is set up for the snare (hit the snare). I think you have the module set up for a DTX6 pad set so it is expecting a 3 zone pad. If necessary change it to XP125SD, press Exit until you get back to the main screen, and the cross stick button will appear.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo Жыл бұрын
@@moxusmedia6683 Which kit did you say you have? DTX8? When you first turned the module on, you had to select a kit to get the correct pad response. Can you remember which kit you selected? I think you might have either selected DTX6 or you have changed the snare pad type. Go to Menu / Trigger / Pad Type and make sure XP125SD is selected. I think it is currently set to XP80 which is why you cant see the Xstick button (as it is always active).
@moxusmedia6683
@moxusmedia6683 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will be back few day, and yhen I will check Drum kit is DTX8 X@@edruminfo
@FunkMauzz
@FunkMauzz 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , very good review , thanx for that . Question . is it possible to make kits , not only for the pads , but also assignable to midi notes like te old DTX Extreme module ?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi FunkMauzz, I'm not really sure what you mean. If you mean does it respond to midi notes sent to it, then yes (play a not on a keyboard and a drum sound plays). Is that what you mean?
@FunkMauzz
@FunkMauzz 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Hi Simon , on my DTX Extreme , i can make a kit consisted of either drumpads triggering , but also like on a workstation . A 128 key assignable Drumset . Like a Drumset ala GM . thnx for your reply .
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@FunkMauzz Ah, I see what you mean. No, only the MIDI notes which are assigned to pads or pad inputs can be accessed via MIDI, and have samples assigned to them. The other notes cannot be used or have samples assigned to them. That was a particular trick which most people were unaware that the DTXT3 and DTX900 could do. You CAN do it with the DTXM12 though.
@FunkMauzz
@FunkMauzz 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo Thanx , thats a pity ... i was really into this unit . Greetz and Merry Xmas
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@FunkMauzz but a DTX8 and DTXM12 combination would give you an incredibly powerful combination...
@matthewharrington5526
@matthewharrington5526 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, I’m thinking of getting this Dtx 10 kit (TCS pads) or the ATV/Pearl Mimic combo which is just a couple hundred dollars more. Any advice on pros and cons of these two kits ‘against’ each other?
@policeluber6720
@policeluber6720 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever try the pearl mimic pro ? Thx
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have. It's a really great module, but you cant load multi layer samples in in the same way, the effects are not as powerful, and numerous other things. The Mimic sounds great, as long as you like Steven Slate sounds. Also, so far Pearl have not really supported it in the way they need to. If they really got behind it, it could be really great. Thanks for watching.
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 3 жыл бұрын
great opener dude, are you vail for any session work in wiltshire
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking. Most session work I do now is usually online as it is much easier all round. If you want someone to come to you I can think of really good drummers who are MUCH closer to you than I am.
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 3 жыл бұрын
@@edruminfo i would really appreciate that simon, im near chippenham, looking for a session guy for a video kinda soundgarden vibe, any info or pointers to a few drummers would be awesome, many thanks
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bcwilderness Can you email me through the edruminfo.com site? rather then put it all on here?
@timothy5583
@timothy5583 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, thank you very much for this very helpful video! As I read in the comments you've played both, mesh and TCS pads, can you tell me wich are physically louder? Asking for my neighbour.
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. It is noise or vibration that is the issue? If its noise, then the TCS has a lower pitch and a lower noise (the mesh is louder and higher pitched so that it sounds even louder). But if it is vibration then there is not much in it - both pads are converting your hit into vibrational energy. Ask the neighbour (if you are talking!) if it is high pitch noise or low pitch noise they can hear. If it is high pitch then it is volume that is the issue, but if it is low pitch then is more vibration (probably, but not always). Sorry I cant be more precise.
@daveakers5782
@daveakers5782 3 жыл бұрын
When are the DTX8 kits going to be available in the US?
@edruminfo
@edruminfo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. They are already but the first batch has sold out. You’ll have to ask your normal Yamaha dealer when the next shipment is due.
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