A closer look at the Yamaha DTX8 and DTX10 Kits with Simon Edgoose - Long Version

Simon Edgoose has a look at the Yamaha DTX8 and DTX10 kits, sounds, features, and live functionality.
00:00 Intro Track
01:05 DTX8 Intro
02:05 DTX10 Intro
02:55 The physical differences between the kits
03:18 The Pads
03:48 The difference between centre and edge cones
04:21 Pad venting
05:52 Why TCS and mesh?
06:27 Why Mylar feels like it does
07:16 Why mesh feels like it does
07:38 Why TCS feels like it does
08:19 Bass drum pads
09:40 The modules
10:30 The sounds
11:10 Recording and drum modules signal paths
12:36 How the sounds work
14:49 How the sounds behave when you play them
15:25 A few presets
17:17 User Voices
19:33 Some imported User Voices (Multi Layer Samples)
20:05 Using the internal FX on imported samples
21:08 The modules - what are the differences?
22:53 Inputs ands Outputs
23:46 User interfaces
25:47 Sound Editing
27:03 The Kit Modifiers
29:42 Memory and Tracks
31:33 Layering, Stacking, Alternating Sounds
33:43 Positional Sensing
35:02 2 zone / 3 zone pads and cross stick
36:18 Bluetooth (ProX)
36:49 Live Functionality
37:32 Guide Audio
40:11 Live Set (ProX)
45:06 MIDI Control
46:27 Assignable Pad Functions
47:20 Apps and Software
48:49 Unique Features
52:23 In Conclusion

[@TarnSoftwhip]

Thank you for this great video 🙂

[@edruminfo]

No problem Tarn! Thanks for watching

[@miketheflyingsnail7319]

Best review i've seen so far. Thanks for this great work.

[@edruminfo]

Thank you Mike. Much appreciated

[@iceney]

Thank you very much Simon for making this video. Very in-depth with tons of absolutely useful information that helps me decide which one to buy. Really appreciate the effort!

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thanks for watching

[@riffsuandi]

Thank you Simon for the super in-depth details. Appreciate the presentation. Great job and effort! 🔥🔥🔥

[@edruminfo]

Thank you!

[@ianmclean5541]

It’s the sounds and how they let you shape them with ease is what sold me on these lists.

[@domcasemore3812]

Great video! Really wasn’t sure what the differences between the different modules where! Great comparison 💪🏾

[@edruminfo]

Thank you Dom!

[@stevecoscia]

This is an informative video. Best video I've seen on these Yamaha kits. Thank you.

[@edruminfo]

Thank you Steve. Have an excellent weekend!

[@2002drumsonly]

Wow! You jumped right out of my laptop screen with that intro, well done. Caught my attention for sure with quality content.

[@edruminfo]

Thank you!

[@marks3072]

Just bought the DTX10 mesh today through Sam Ash in Florida. Should be here in a couple days. I've been using your video(s) to learn. Thank you for all of your time and efforts!

[@saimaanorppa]

Did you get the TCS version or the mesh? How do you feel about your decision?

[@devilsden2283]

Outstanding video Simon...ordering the DTX8 tomorrow & selling the Roland....thank you brother....👍

[@steevidrums]

That opening kit sounds SICK!!

[@steenwaldorf4782]

Great video Simon, keep em coming 😉

[@edruminfo]

Thank you Steen. Will do!

[@demonicsweaters]

Really great video. Best one on these kits yet!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you!

[@JoshCameron]

You’re a fantastic presenter and explain things very clearly and concisely. Really appreciate the effort that must have gone into making this video, my DTX8K-X should arrive within the next couple weeks and I’ll be referring back to this a lot 👍🏼

[@edruminfo]

Thats very kind of you Josh. Thank you.

[@markevans2814]

Excellent presentation! You really did your homework on these products; the information that you imparted was very specific indeed. Superb. You should have at the very least 50,000 subscribers with gear reviews on that level.

[@robertdore9592]

Agreed upon, Simon does a great job of clearing the fog of terminology and jargon, however, there are a LOT of words to describe something that you're meant to hit🤣

[@DerekHung1985]

Thank you so much for the most detailed explanation video! It really helps when choosing electronic drums!

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thank you Derek

[@williamcorcoran8842]

Great Video! You’ve saved me hours and helped me make the right decision for me!

[@edruminfo]

Hi William. Great! Whatever decision that was, I hope you're very happy with it!!

[@coreyfranco8217]

Preordered the dtx8m and am so excited

[@rhythmsaint73]

Simon, This is fantastic. A very in depth review and demo. Im very sold on the pro X. I can see this being part of all that I do and for my students also. Great job as always you are the e kit guru. Best Aaron

[@edruminfo]

Thank you Aaron!

[@philipeccles7143]

Hi Simon, outstanding presentation. We met at the UK Drum show earlier this year when I tried the Latest DTX kits. I now have a DTX10Pro X. Unbelievable responses from these wonderful TCS heads. I’m think I’ll need a work shop or two to get acclimatised to the abilities of this kit.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Phil! Good to hear from you. Did I give you my email address at the show? If not, go to my website (same as the name above - eDrum....com and you can get hold of me through that. Let's get you sorted out. Talk soon, Simon

[@swingstylez]

I have a DTX6K2 and love watching your vids to learn more about the DTX-PRO module. Hope you're getting paid the big bucks by Yamaha!!

[@Kangrulls]

Great explanation, as always. thanks simon!

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thanks Kang

[@manuger]

Great review and well detailed. I am looking for an electric drum set, so now I have a better idea in what to get. Thank you!!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you, and good luck

[@huubdrums]

Simon thanx so much for this wonderful informative video!!! 👍🏻🙂

[@edruminfo]

Thank you! My pleasure

[@realmusic5407]

Christ almighty! I’m sold! That was a brilliant presentation and really easy to follow. No extraneous information or superfluous opinions, just straight up functionality talk with great explanation of utility. Thank you sir! 🙏

[@edruminfo]

Thank you SO much for the kind words. Just trying to give people an honest appraisal of the kit. How you described it is exactly what I was aiming for!

[@realmusic5407]

@@edruminfo Indeed you have. Yamaha have done well to gain you as an ambassador. The only problem is that there are very few or next to no DTX10’s in Australia. I’ve been looking to purchase one for about two weeks now, but trying to get my hands on one or even play one is looking to be a slim chance until mid next year?! Any comments there Simon? I’m taking the presumption this is not your department? 😅😄

[@edruminfo]

@@realmusic5407 It's a global problem I'm afraid - everybody is experiencing this at the moment. All the original batches of kits sold out almost instantly. I know (part of) the issue is getting gear shipped globally when there is no container space available for months. There is obviously a world wide shortage of semiconductors at the moment too, as well as general shortages of many specialised parts in all areas (cars, computers, and yes, electronic musical instruments), so manufacturing is not at a level that it should be, or was pre pandemic. It will get better, but not in the next few weeks I'm afraid. It's affecting everyone from Europe, USA, Asia and, obviously, Australia too. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but it will sort itself out. It is a massive PITA.

[@dancassey7185]

@@edruminfo Yes I see. Nice reply Simon. Thank you for that. Oh well, I've placed a 75% deposit down on the DTX-10 today with the advice that the goods will arrive in March next year. Hopefully this will be the case. What can we do when the economy comes to a grinding halt?! Thanks again for the video. Would love to see/hear a video on the preset drum kits in the DTX-10 of which there are 30 more than the DTX-8 I believe. In the meantime I guess I'll just play the waiting game now for the flagship model to arrive by ship and hopefully with a DTX10 flag!

[@EqDior]

very detailed and pro review! Awesome!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you

[@miketurnbull7410]

Just bought my DTX8 today so this has been very interesting and useful. Many thanks. Ain't drumming and KZbin great?!!

[@edruminfo]

Good! Thank you!

[@henkaingberg]

Fantastic presentation and explanation!!! Many thanks and of course a sub!

[@edruminfo]

Well, thank you Henka! I appreciate that!

[@guilhermecaran3363]

Great video! Thanks

[@edruminfo]

Thanks Guilherme!

[@rtroiani]

Thank you, very well detailed!

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thanks Rick

[@markadamson5798]

I have a set of DTXtream IIs, and I LOVE EM!!!. Almost 20yrs old and they can do all those things as well! Remember?

[@edruminfo]

I do remember the DTXtreme11s. It was great kit, but those 20 years have allowed for some pretty big advances, like new FX, the multilayer sample loading, the massive editing ability and the track playback for example. Plus I don't miss hunting for Smart Media cards to load and save samples! But yes, I loved my DTXT11s. If you get the chance to try one of these, I think you'll be surprised. Thanks for getting in touch.

[@Ripperx121]

I really need to try one of these kits. I currently have a Roland VAD 507 but I always hear good things about Yamaha's feel of the kit.

[@edruminfo]

You need to try the TCS (silicone pads). The mesh feels like mesh, but the TCS is something else.

[@rcprod9631]

Your video is the first one to peak my interest in these kits. Great job! I have a TD-17KVX kit and imho, this Yamaha kit blows mine away sound wise. I just demoed a TD-50K2 kit and same result in comparing the sound with this kit. A bit of a fail regarding the cross-stick implementation on this kit compared to the TD-27 and TD-50x modules with the PD-140DS digital snare pad.

[@edruminfo]

Good! I'm pleased it has. Regarding the cross stick - the PD140DS cost a similar amount to the DTXpro module by itself. I'd prefer to have a great sounding and reasonably priced kit, rather than increase the price of the kit by a significant amount just to play cross stick, but each to their own. I agree totally - sound wise - really good. Thanks for watching.

[@rcprod9631]

@@edruminfo Yeah, I agree with that. Hopefully I'll get to try one of these kits out at my local Long & McQuade store. Cheers!

[@alexriquelme]

So useful! Thanks

[@richarddib]

Thank you for the comprehensive review.... you convinced me to buy this kit instead of the Roland

[@ianmclean5541]

I`ve studied the manuals for the Pro & ProX modules back to back, and when it comes down to it, if you aren`t using the kit for Live performance and Bluetooth isn`t important to you, all you are really losing on the Pro is a little extra velocity layering on the cymbals & hats + 3 delay & 3 overdrive effects. The same 400 sounds and oh yes, 10 less kit constructions. These modules are excellent value for the money and in my opinion, their set up is far better than competitors because you can take all the studio dry recorded kits and make them anything you want. It`s time for me to upgrade.

[@francescolongo1664]

Now we Need the new multipad 🖤

[@val_de_mez]

Dude, finally. Those yamaha shorts were quite useless. I'm happy to find out you got your own channel! 10:15 - that is exactly! why I went with dtx8m over roland td27kvx. Simple, easy, great sound - unlike roland prismatic empty bucket sound.

[@timjoseph887]

Yes had the td 17 and hoping the dtx is on a different playing field .

[@val_de_mez]

@@timjoseph887 I had such a dilemma about it. I'm really glad I went dtx

[@timjoseph887]

@@val_de_mez I got a dtx pro and happier with it than TD17

[@rebelrioX]

Damn the sounds are like a good vst! Yamaha modules are fairly impressive!

[@edruminfo]

Good! I'm pleased you think so. That was the plan so pleased its impressed you! Thank you

[@matthewharrington5526]

Simon, I’m thinking of getting this Dtx 10 kit (TCS pads) or the ATV/Pearl Mimic combo which is just a couple hundred dollars more. Any advice on pros and cons of these two kits ‘against’ each other?

[@jacquesfontaine553]

sorry, i forgot this: are you going to post a video about how to put multisamples in the DTX PRO and DTX PRO X modules.

[@DimebuckeR777]

I've preordered a dtx10x about 2 weeks ago. I'm upgrading from the old DTXpress IV v2 kit and have been binge watching all these videos that have been coming out. Really great insights to all the features here. One thing i've wondered, is there any reason why the kick pad is mesh only and not TCS? Thanks for the deep dive!

[@edruminfo]

Yes, because when you play over the surface of a drum, playing at different angles on different hits (as we all naturally do) feels different for every hit. When you are playing a bass drum pedal, the beater is only hitting on point so as long as that one point feels good it doesn't matter what material it is. TCS didn't offer any advantages when just hit in one place, so (much cheaper) mesh was chosen.

[@ianmclean5541]

How do you like the silicone heads? Are you happy with that and you’re overall choice? I’m considering the same kit. Thanks

[@adammammana367]

I have a DTX790k its basically the flagship with the 700 series module and hex rack. But I got a hex rack II now. I need a new snare I cut the silicone portion some how and the replacement will be the black snare. I’ll slowly upgrade to all acoustic looking pads. Silicone though. Kit is amazing.

[@sunnibird]

Is the snare and ride comparable to the digital versions on the TD27?

[@ianmclean5541]

I`ve been drumming for 44 years now and actualy owned the first TAMA electronic kit. It`s been interesting watching the evolution of electronic drumming. I`m liking where Yamaha is headed with these kits. The Pro`s: 1] The pricing is more reasonable by far than Roland. 2] The rack sytem is the way to go because if you take your time, you can hide the wires more effectively. Visible wiring is a negative for sales. The hex rack also looks cool. Remember: drummers like to sound great but they also want to look cool. Keep that in mind when you design a kit. Ignoring that hurt the electronic drum market for years. 3] The ability to import sounds and do multi sampling in order to make the sounds non repetitive and more natural sounding is genius. Keep going with that. If you offered multi layer sample packs for download and even if you charged for it, guys would buy it once they understood the advantages of it. You have an edge on your competition with this feature. 4] The DTX10 module looks very user friendly. 5] The new silicone heads seem like a good move, allowing for better positional sensing. 6] Hiring Simon to explain the nuances of these kits with reference points on the video and his ability to explain technical concepts easily is huge. Great work Simon! 7] Offering studio recorded samples in their natural state and allowing the user to add FX, compression, ambience is brilliant. That`s a huge selling point. Here are my suggestions for Yamaha`s next incarnation: 1] make a larger kick drum, maybe an 18" at least to balance out the asthetic of the kit. 2] Offer more appealing finishes like GEWA is doing. 2] Make the cymbals a little funkyier looking and edgy. A little more golden colour would be nice if possible. 3] Work towards offering a Digital snare like Roland. I think thats the wave of the future for electronic drumming. 4] A bigger coloured screen on your module is a good idea. Guys don`t like tiny gray screens. 5] Make your drums look more like real drums [still shallow like the TAYE Go Kit] with mesh bottom heads to facilitate air flow. That`s my two cents worth. Having said all that, I don`t need another electronic kit but if Yamaha made some or all of those improvements, I would be buying a new kit. They would be irresistable. I say all this because I believe Yamaha has the most potential to corner the electronic drum market. Roland has gotten cocky and have gone crazy in their pricing. Yamaha has the best shot of taking them down.

[@edruminfo]

Thanks for taking the time to write. I'm afraid these come directly to me (its my KZbin channel) but I'm sure Yamaha do see them. I agree with pretty much all you've said, which is always nice! So thank you!

[@ianmclean5541]

@@edruminfo thanks! I took the time to write because I’ve seen you are very responsive to your forum. My hope is that Yamaha will also take the time to check their feedback, especially your channel because nobody does a better job explaining these kits. I’ve watched a lot of the others and your level of detail is unmatched. I believe that whichever company takes drummer feedback the most seriously and addresses the common themes will become the king of the market. Yamaha certainly have the resources to make it happen as they’re a massive company and are already known for their high quality. Keep up the good work Simon because people are definitely listening and are making purchases based on your information.

[@philrhodes3985]

Great info thanks. Just a couple of questions: 1. Can you move the module to the left or between hihat and snare? 2. What are cymbal rolls like on these kits? Thanks

[@edruminfo]

Thanks Phil. Yes you can mount the module to the left. There no rack there to put it on, but the module holder fits into the base section of any Yamaha cymbal stand so you can put it where you want it. You'll have to re mark-up the cable loom with new names (or remember where each one goes), but thats easy. As for cymbal rolls... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eISte4B3jqhsi8k

[@Frankietomatoes6189]

Brilliant!!!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you

[@dlcro6112]

Nice detailed and professional presentation! Could you please tell me if the 80's UK Gated kit of DTX PROX is also available on DTX PRO? If not,it may be possible to obtain the same sound of the 80's UK Gated kit using the samples and sound effects of DTX PRO? What are the differences between DTX PROX and DTX PRO regarding the quality of samples (the number of layers per sample) and the trigger settings?

[@edruminfo]

Thank you. The 80's UK Gated Kit isn't on the DTXPRO as a preset... but everything you need to make it is! That kit is just a combination of the right samples, and the right effects, and you will be able to get within a few % of the same sound. As far as the quality, there are more layers in the cymbal samples on the PROX (and a few more samples) but apart from that you can get both modules sounding very similar. The PRO only has the one trigger patch, whereas the PROX has 10.

[@dlcro6112]

@@edruminfo Thank you very much for your prompt reply!

[@crossphone1]

Thanks for the great video. Do you have any idea what beater Yamaha is using in all of the promo pictures?

[@edruminfo]

Hi. Thank you. It depends on the photo shoot. The black beaters in many of the pictures that Japan did are the beaters which come with the FP9 pedal (but are available separately I believe). If its from photo shoots we did in Europe then we used the standard Yamaha hard felt beater

[@Manas999_9]

thank you!

[@thomaskurek9943]

Do you think Yamaha will be able to make positional sensing available for the three trigger mesh head snare? Pearl managed to do this for the mimic pro in an update so it might be possible!?

[@edruminfo]

Sure. 100%

[@timothy5583]

Hi Simon, thank you very much for this very helpful video! As I read in the comments you've played both, mesh and TCS pads, can you tell me wich are physically louder? Asking for my neighbour.

[@edruminfo]

Hi. It is noise or vibration that is the issue? If its noise, then the TCS has a lower pitch and a lower noise (the mesh is louder and higher pitched so that it sounds even louder). But if it is vibration then there is not much in it - both pads are converting your hit into vibrational energy. Ask the neighbour (if you are talking!) if it is high pitch noise or low pitch noise they can hear. If it is high pitch then it is volume that is the issue, but if it is low pitch then is more vibration (probably, but not always). Sorry I cant be more precise.

[@jacquesfontaine553]

I Simon, I must thank you again for your work with Yamaha, which is particularly useful to us. I plan to work with DTX8K (still hesitate between X or M) at home and on stage; in that last case, if possible, I want to take my real bass drum (for a better look 🙂). is there room for a 22 BD with the rack and what is the best trigging solution ? is the DT50K sufficient and reliable. in addition, I noted that you play mostly on mesh pads. why not TCS pads ? I live in an apartment and my music room is just acoustically treated. Are TCS heads really quieter ?

[@edruminfo]

Hi Jaques. Thanks for getting in touch, and thanks for your kind comments. The DTX8 rack has room for a 22" bass drum. You will have to move the bottom horizontal bar up, but there is easily enough room. The DT50K is perfect. I would use a real head, or if volume is an issue, use a mesh head with the drum half full of heavy pillows to give the correct feel. I only play whatever Yamaha have got the most of. As I am one of their demonstrators, 'my' kit is whatever they have. At the moment I have a DTX8KM here in Black Forest, but before I had a DTX10KM in Real Wood. It just depends on what they have, what I am doing, and what is available globally. There is no reason why it has been mesh kits recently, it just has! I prefer TCS as I feel I can 'lay into' the pads more - I find mesh unrealistically bouncy - but I take what I can! I hope that helps. Simon

[@ProGames-sn6ev]

Hi Simon, i have a question about the dtx pro: how can i disable sending midi cc? Our Keyboarder Changes my Kits via usb midi, but when i touch the wheel of the DTX the Keyboarder get‘s in Trouble with mainstage…Kind Regards

[@edruminfo]

Hi Alexander. Ok, well if this were me, I'd say it was his problem to sort out! MainStage can filter midi data coming in, so he may be able to use that to remove the program change date. If he can't, then there is another way - First, unplug the USB cable you are using to connect the module to the Mac. Second, use a USB to MIDI cable from the computer running MainStage and only plug in the MIDI IN socket in the back of the module. That way NO midi program change (MPC) data can be sent back to the computer at all as there is nothing connecting the midi out to the computer. However, this doesn't work if you need to send midi data to him, but I'm guessing you don't if you are using MainStage to change kits for you. Would that work for you?.

[@guilhermecaran3363]

Simon, what cleaning products do you recommend (besides damp cloth and water) for the TCS surfaces? Thanks.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Guilherme. Just a damp cloth and a little bit of detergent if it is actually dirty (grey) but most of the time, just a damp cloth should get rid of the worst. Anything apart from water could dry out the top layer so I would only use detergent if really neccesary.

[@peteluxx]

Hi Simon, have a question: Does the new dtx prox module also work with the dtx8 drums (or just with the dtx 10 drums)? Cos I might want to get the dtx prox module (but I have the dtx 8 drums). Many thanks.

[@edruminfo]

Hi, ALL the pads and both modules are interchangeable so you can mix and match as much as you want (and you budget allows!)

[@BNC593]

That “CrispClassic” kit demoed at: 42:08 sounds great in the mix.

[@edruminfo]

Thats why I use it so much - its sounds great!!

[@OYMInternetRadio]

Well done on this in dept tutorial. Question for you - in a live situation, being able to change from one song to another with sample sounds seems to be a problem with some kits. Do you know the latency time between changes as it would need to be quick. Do you also know the size of the memory card for smaple sounds. Cheers!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you. There is no delay from loading the samples between kits, but there is a delay in the effects - they have to stop, new settings are loaded, and the new sounds applied to them. So, the change in effects takes less than a second (approximately). There is no memory card - the user samples are loaded into flash memory inside the module - the internal sounds are already loaded , and play straight back from memory. So for user samples, the Pro has 64meg and the ProX has 128meg.

[@OYMInternetRadio]

@@edruminfo Thanks for your answer. So you are saying that the load time between sample songs would be seconds? I'm very surprised at the limited size of the memory. 128MB is nothing these days. Some kits have 16GB as you know. Do you know how many more cymbals/drums I can add on to the kit? I'd be looking to add another drum and maybe two more cymbals. The reason why I'm asking is because I have a DTX II which is past it's sell by date and I'm looking to purchase a DTX10K-M. It's a lot of money, so I want to make sure I get value for money.

[@edruminfo]

@@OYMInternetRadio Thats because these module work in a different way to other modules. If you just want to load in samples, then get a 2box or a Mimic, but these are MUCH more powerful and allow you to use the internal sounds and tweak them to get the sound you need - want it to sound like a '72 Gretsch? Start with the jazz toms and kick and go from there. Sound like a 1960s Ludwig? Start with the Vintage toms and kick and go from there. The effects in these are crazy, but you do need to know what you are doing to get the best from them. Most people will just use the presets ands tweak the Kit Modifiers, but there is a LOT more to these than that.

[@Jennyshalfmusic]

Hi Simon. Just got the DTXprok8-m. Things I like about it and some that I don't. It's frustrating that you can't mix each kit individually. It basically means you are stuck with one kit for a live performance and even at home when you change kit I find you have to remix the drum kit because of the differences between kits. Are there any recommended kits/sample you suggest importing in. I own SSD4 and also studio drummer, but I'm not sure if they are actually wave file samples.

[@edruminfo]

Yes you can mix each kit differently. It would be fairly pointless if you couldn't. Go to Menu, Kit Edit, Volume. The top line is the whole kit volume. Second line is each pad volume (hit the pad to select it). Third line is each zone of each pad volume (hit the pad zone to select it). You can't get much more detailed in the volume tweaking than that. So once every kit it mixed to your liking, you can use the LED faders on the front (in Mixer mode) to make global changes for live, home etc. As far as samples to import, whwatever sounds good to you. I use ezDrummer2 and Superior 3 mainly because they sound good to my ears. Others might prefer Slate or GGD, but there is no right or wrong.

[@Jennyshalfmusic]

@@edruminfo thanks so much for replying! That's so helpful. I was used to it being with the dampening and pitch similar to roland! Just trying to import samples now and understand layering. I look forward to your in depth tutorial on that lol 😂

[@edruminfo]

@@Jennyshalfmusic Oh... like this...kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHaqiaiHopyMnJY ? The other videos are coming!

[@colinnaidu3436]

Simon. Fantastic press. Pretty much have me sold on the D8. Question. Can you assign say a cow bell sound to a rim with the existing dtx8 module? Without having to add from a computer.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Colin. Totally! Very easy. You can actually have up to 4 different sounds (stacked together or alternating) on EACH zone of EACH pad, PER kit so you really have lots you can do. Cowbell on a rim? Simple

[@colinnaidu3436]

@@edruminfo fantastic. Thanks so much Simon.

[@guilhermecaran3363]

Simon, does the DTX-PROX comes with some sort of pre-set configuration (or kit) to play with brushes?

[@edruminfo]

Hi. No it doesn't. Obviously you can load brush hits in a samples (and I did recently just to test something) but there is no "Brush Kit' in with module. The fact that you can only use nylon brushes with mesh heads, rather than wire brushes, prevents many serious brush users from using electronics, when an acoustic kit with brushes is more realistic and can be kept quiet. The demand just wasn't there I'm afraid to make it a priority.

[@guilhermecaran3363]

@@edruminfo That is totaly understandable. Thank you for the reply.

[@luismendieta6348]

Hi Simon!! Do you know if these new pads are going to be compatible with previous Yamaha modules such as the DTX700? I really would like to upgrade my snare pad with one of these. Thanks!

[@edruminfo]

Hi Luis. Yes they are compatible. However, as all the inputs on the DTX700 module are 3 zone inputs, you will have to use a splitter cable and have the new pad going into 2 separate trigger inputs - one for the head, and one for the rim. This is because the new pads are piezo/piezo rather than piezo switch like the ones on your kit.

[@luismendieta6348]

@@edruminfo Got it! Thank you so much for your answer! I hope individual pads be available soon.

[@tavchavez631]

Hello Simon. great review! I currently play on my Yamaha DTXtreme III. I thinking of getting the DTXProX module and using the pads which i currently have, Is this possible? Looking to cut costs and upgrade my kit with this amazing looking module.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Tav. I'm going to (almost) cut and paste an answer I left for someone earlier today as it covers exactly the same issue. Here you go... You cant just plug your existing pads into the new module and have the same functionality. The new modules are a change of direction because you cant make pads with real shells and steel hoops into 3 zone pads. The snare channel and input 14 on both new modules can work with your existing 3 zone XP pads, but the toms are piezo/piezo inputs rather than 3 zone (piezo/switch/switch) so your existing XP pads would only have a working head - not the rims. If you want to keep all the 3 zone pad ability from your existing kit, but add the better sounds and control of the ProX then your best bet would be to get one of the new modules and MIDI the 900 to the new module (MIDI out on the 900 to MIDI in on the ProX). Then mute the heads and rim 1 of each pad on the 900 (plus the cymbals and hi hat) and send the audio from rim 2 from each pad from the 900 to the Aux In of the new module. Then you can play your existing pads, still have rim 2 on each pad, AND have the drum and cymbal sounds from the new module.

[@chrissykes5576]

Please could you explain certain pad inputs on the module being labelled as two inputs in one socket? This must be to add extra pads I guess. Does this mean using a twin cable with, at the module end, a stereo plug going into the stereo socket on the module, then dividing at the other end with two mono plus into two separate pads? But the pads are 2-zone I gather, so not sure how that works with mono signal.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Chris. Have a look at this. Hopefully it will help www.dropbox.com/s/kjzxak06k6dusbh/Understanding%20Yamaha%20Trigger%20Inputs.pdf?dl=0

[@BleedingDucks]

Hi, many thanks for the great review. Have you tried both TCS and mesh pads? Which one do you prefer and would you advise? And why? Cheers!

[@edruminfo]

Hi. Thank you. Yes, I've played both. I have never particularly liked mesh - it feels very unrealistic to me. I feel I can 'lay into' TCS more. Mesh is very easy to play, and I think that is why it is so popular, but it just doesn't feel real, and the bounce is unrealistic. So I would have to say TCS.

[@memyselfandlewii8781]

@@edruminfo TCS HEADS are a big reason for me to finally purchase my second electronic drum set; first one was a Roland TD7 I bought around 1997. Thanks for the video friend

[@edruminfo]

@@memyselfandlewii8781 No problem. Enjoy the kit!

[@pabloagredaayala9724]

Are the old tcs snares capable of positional sensing with the new modules?

[@edruminfo]

Yes, but as they work on proximity to the central piezo, the bigger the pad, the better. It would be hard to hear on an 8" TCS pad but easier on a 12" TCS pad.

[@mehdibennadji1839]

Hi Simon, thank you for your video 😊 A few questions about the 8 individual outputs on the dtx pro x module: does it mean that you can have 8 separated elements of the drum kit recorded on 8 different tracks on your recorder, and not only a left and right master output recorded on 2 tracks? What kind of jack do you plug on those inputs? Maybe a stereo input on one side and two mono outputs on the other side? And what 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 is associated to? Thank you very much

[@edruminfo]

Hi, yes that is what the 8 individual outpour are for. You can decide which instrument goes down each output inside the module. each output can be a stereo output or 2 mono outputs, so you can send instruments as 4 stereo pairs, OR you can use a splitter cable and have each instrument coming down one of 8 mono cables (which is exactly how it would be if you were recording an acoustic drum kit with a single microphone - bass drum through 1, snare through another etc).

[@mehdibennadji1839]

@@edruminfo great, thank you Simon And of course, every dtx pads are compatible on that module? (Xp120sd, xp70, 80, kp90 etc)

[@edruminfo]

@@mehdibennadji1839 Yes, the pads are backwards and forwards compatible. The only thing which won't work is the red controller knob on the older XP pads as that was 900, 700 and 502 modules only.

[@mehdibennadji1839]

@@edruminfo ok thank you...and a last question: can i load the user kits i created on the dtx pro module in the dtx pro x or not?

[@edruminfo]

@@mehdibennadji1839 Yes, you can, but not the other way. Any kits you create on the Pro and load into the ProX will automatically sound better in there ProX as there are more layers in the samples of the ProX .

[@steevidrums]

Hey Simon, have Yamaha discontinued the XP pads in favour of these? I know they still do the XP80, but the 110 and the 120SD/T pads?

[@edruminfo]

Hi Stephen, I believe they are still current for the moment. They were put in a price list I was involved with recently so are still available.

[@steevidrums]

@@edruminfo ah fair enough. I got a full set of them using an eDrumin. And they’re hands down my favourite pad to play.

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Soundwise it beats every other brand for sure!

[@ludsat1]

I have a 4 channel mixing board what do I play this out of stereo? brain into speakers? ....thank you for your video

[@edruminfo]

If I understand you correctly, just got from the master outputs (R/L) into two channels of your mixer, and pan them left and right. Thats it - nice and easy!

[@ianmclean5541]

I checked with my Yamaha dealer to see if I could get a bigger bass drum in the matte black and apparently they’re not available, so I preordered the DTX10 anyway.

[@Foozow]

Hi Simon, great video. I’m really interested in the DTX10proX but I currently have a DTXtreme 3 pad set and have noticed that the pad compatibility chart doesn’t list that the TP100/120 pads are compatible with the module. I would really like to buy just the module to replace my DTX900 module, is this possible? I noticed that you mention that with the new Snare pad you have to manually switch between rim click and rim shot, does the input accommodate a 3 zone pad to provide all 3 zones as this seems like a step backwards to me. I’ve been using Yamaha edrums since the DTXpress 1 and love the products although right now I’m tossing up between the DTX10proX and the Pearl mimic. Please give me some good news 😁😁😁

[@edruminfo]

Hi. The new modules are a change of direction because you cant make pads with real shells and steel hoops into 3 zone pads. The snare channel and input 14 on both new modules can work with 3 zone XP pads, but the toms are piezo/piezo inputs rather than 3 zone (piezo/switch/switch). If you want to keep all the 3 zone pad ability from your existing kit, but add the better sounds and control of the Pro or ProX then your best bet would be to get one of the new modules and MIDI the 900 to the new module (MIDI out on the 900 to MIDI in on the new module - you will also need a Kenton USB MIDI Host if you go for the Pro). Then mute the heads and rim 1 of each pad (plus the cymbals and hi hat) and send the audio from rim 2 from each pad to the Aux In of the new module. Then you can play your existing pads, still have rim 2 on each pad, AND have the drum and cymbal sounds from the new module.

[@Foozow]

@@edruminfo Thanks a lot for that detailed explanation, much appreciated. One other question, regarding the toms I would only require 2 zones of the TP100 pads (toms) and judging by you explanation the head and rim 1 would work natively, is that correct? Regarding the snare, I'd be happy to invest in a new snare pad. Also would my current hi hat and cymbals work natively? I understand that the new 17in ride input would be different. Thanks again.

[@edruminfo]

@@Foozow Hi, no the TP100 would not work natively - the head would work, but the rim on that pad is a switch, and it needs to be a piezo (sorry we are getting so technical, but it's sort of important to understand what the differences are). If you plugged a TP100 into a Pro tom input only the head would work. If you plugged it into the snare input on a Pro all 3 zones could work, but that is a switchable (different) input.

[@Foozow]

@@edruminfo Excellent thanks. It's never too technical when it comes to the DTX, I love this stuff. 😁 Thanks again for your advice and thanks again for the awesome breakdown videos. 👍😁

[@shawdlc9212]

Hi simon what do you think about these three kits im looking for...yamaha dtx10, roland td50k2 or pearl emerge?can you help me thnk you

[@edruminfo]

Go to the website in the videos watermark in the bottom right hand corner and PM me through that. I'll give you an honest opinion of all three kits. Full disclosure - In case it's not obvious so far, I did work on the development of this kit so its the closest to what I personally want and need.

[@RN-qy1cz]

Hi Simon. Can I add an additional crash to the PRO X module via the KP128 Input? I already have an additional tom that I have connected at the 14 input. Thanks a lot.

[@edruminfo]

Hi. Yes you can, but I would do it a slightly different way. I would plug your tom 4 into the bass drum (or use a splitter in the back of the module for convenience) and I would plug the cymbal pad into input 14. In this way, you can have a full 3 zone cymbal pad (bell, bow and edge and choke), as 14 is a 3 zone input, and have tom 4 as a mono pad. It won't take long to swap them over and a minute per kit to swap the sounds, but it would be a much better option for playability.

[@RN-qy1cz]

@@edruminfo Thanks a lot!!!! I will do it this way. Greetings from germany.

[@harris.unterwegs]

Simon, great video 👏 Is it possible to upgrade the mesh version to the TCS later? Just replace the heads? Cheers, Harry

[@johndef5075]

Im pretty sure no. The mesh is just like a regular head. Silcone one not an actual head.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Harald. I'm afraid not. The shells are a different depth, have a different edge on both types and uses different types of sensor so you cant swap them I'm afraid. It's a bit more complicated than that.

[@awengpancaou5021]

amazing,,❤

[@Frankietomatoes6189]

Simon, can I add an extra "floor tom" on the DTX PRO? Thinking about purchasing DTX8 with the wooden shells. Keep up the great work.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Frankie. Thanks, yes input 14 is free so you can add another tom pad to that. If you use one of the new tom pads, you'll only get the head option if using input 14. If you use an older 3 zone pad or a cymbal pad into input 14 you'll have 3 working zones. The pad mechanics are different from older pads to new pads.

[@Frankietomatoes6189]

@@edruminfo thanks so much, I would add another wood shell from the DTX8 kit. Have a great day

[@Frankietomatoes6189]

@@edruminfo Simon can you please answer a 2nd question for me. I put an order for the dtx8 with an extra 10" tom. Where can I purchase an extra tom holder that match the kit. Looked at Yamaha I didn't see anything. What type is the holder. Thanks again for taking time to answer questions.

[@mehdibennadji1839]

Hi Simon, is it possible on the dtx pro module to have 2 differents sounds on only one zone of a pad (in my case the xp 120 sd, in the center of the pad), i'd like to have a ghost note snare sound when i hit soft BUT an open rim sound when i hit hard and this ONLY on the center of the pad, is it possible? And how to obtain it? Thank you

[@edruminfo]

Hi Mehdi. Yes, of course you can and easily too. Select the kit you want. Go to Menu, then Voice. Press Enter. Scroll down and select the voice you want for your loud back beat (open rimshot in your case). Scroll down a couple of pages until you see VelLo (Velocity Low). This is the level at which the loud sound will kick in, so try turning this to 80 (you can always change it later). Now you have set the loud snare sound to play between 80 and 127 (max volume). Then press F3 (TRG - right hand button under screen), press F1 (Layer) so the module changes to Layer B, and press F2 (Pad Lock) so the module stays on Layer B). Press Exit. Change VelHi (Velocity High) to 79 - you have now set the ghost note layer to only play up yo velocity 79. After that, the loud layer will take over. Scroll up a couple of pages and you will see that Voice Number says 0:[No Assign]. Change it to select the voice you want for your ghost note. Press F3 (TRG) and press F2 to turn off the Pad Lock. Now when you play up to a velocity of 79, you'll get one sound, and 80 or higher you'll get your loud sound. It looks complicated but when you know how to do it, it takes about 1 minute or less. You can change the point at which the sound changes from low to high by changing the VelLo on the loud sound, and VelHi on the ghost note. Just make sure you change both of them, but you can leave both on so you have 2 snare sounds if you want. Its all down to you. I hope that helps.

[@mehdibennadji1839]

@@edruminfo thank you very much for those precious informations Simon 🙏 cheers

[@steevidrums]

Hey Simon, I have a quick question regarding USB audio on the ProX module. Can the individual kit pieces be routed via usb Audio. Sorta like how the Efnote5 kit does? i.e. 8 usb audio channels? So the module also acts like an interface?

[@edruminfo]

Hi Stephen. At the moment it works as a stereo 24 bit interface via USB. If you want to have everything on a track separately, this might be of use... www.edruminfo.com/articles/2021/7/11/41-tracking-edrums

[@steevidrums]

@@edruminfo I had a quick glance (I’m in work at the moment) so I skimmed it. But is the gist to record via midi. Get the take right, or edit until happy. Then split midi notes into their respective tracks (don’t think GarageBand can do this but Logic can) then if you really need to work with the audio. So a pass through solo’d of each midi track to put into their own audio track? I’m in the process of selling one of these kits to a friend and they’ve asked questions regarding using it with GarageBand. So just getting all the info before I report back. I highly recommend the DTX10 for the ability to use multi audio outs (amongst other reasons) Thanks for the info. Will have a better look after work.

[@edruminfo]

@@steevidrums No, its simpler than that, and you can totally do it on Garageband. Have a read when you have time. Basically GB plays the midi data in a loop, and you just turn up whatever you want on a particular track using the built in mixer, so kick first, snare next etc etc. Its easier on Logic as you can automate it, but it works the same

[@steevidrums]

@@edruminfo great. That’s the answer I was looking for. USB multi audio is nice, but as you’ve show, not the only way to get the kit into multi tracks. Besides, 8 usb channels (like Efnote) would be mono tracks anyway. The method you suggested would be as many stereo tracks as desired. I’ve understood that right?

[@edruminfo]

@@steevidrums Correct! You can take them in any way you want - mono, stereo etc

[@YouDepaTube]

Is there a big difference in sound quality & functionality between the dtx pro and the dtx pro x? Thanx

[@edruminfo]

Functionality - big difference, but it depends on what you need to do with it. Live gigging - definitely ProX. Home use - Pro is fine.As far as sounds go, there are more in the ProX and they have greater detail, but many drummers won't be able to hear the difference if they are using cheap headphones or a small amp. Through a big PA or in a good quality recording, yes, you'd hear it.

[@daveakers5782]

When are the DTX8 kits going to be available in the US?

[@edruminfo]

Hi. They are already but the first batch has sold out. You’ll have to ask your normal Yamaha dealer when the next shipment is due.

[@McAddress]

Impressive video and super clear explanations, thanks! I currently own a DTX400K and seeking for a nice upgrade. After seeing a few of your videos and doing some research, I came to the conclusion that I'd like to have the DTX6K3-X but would like to replace its module for the DTX Pro X. Do you think it makes sense? Is there any way to purchase it that way? (i.e. the DTX6 kit without the module and the DTX Pro X separately) I've seen a few separate things but I still don't understand Yamaha's naming conventions (like DMR6 vs DTX Pro, the DTP62-X, the rack seems to be the RS6, dunno...) Thank you

[@edruminfo]

Thank you. Just go to your local Yamaha DTX dealer and explain to them exactly what you need. They will be able to order what you want.

[@McAddress]

@@edruminfo Thanks. I already did but no one carries it in my country, and sadly enough, as this is a terribly socialist country, nothing works well and it is almost impossible to import stuff so I cannot even order it. So I am looking at buying in the US and bringing it myself on my next trip. I even asked how much the boxes weigh but they don't know... Was wondering if you knew how to order and mainly, if it made sense to use the DTX Pro X module with the DTX6 kit. Thanks again

[@edruminfo]

@@McAddress In which case, unless you need the individual outputs and the bluetooth (and they are ABSOLUTELY essential) then you don't benefit from getting the DTXproX module. Just get the DTX6. The modules are VERY similar, just the ProX has some more 'pro' features, but unless you are gigging it ALL the time, you probably won't need them.

[@McAddress]

@@edruminfo Thank you! I did like the multiple outputs and the additional analogic controls but I think you are right, most of the time I will not ABSOLUTELY need them (same as the Bluetooth). You helped me a lot, thanks!

[@joelpb2298]

If you had to choose between dtx 8 and 27kv.. what would you prefer.. ? your opinion would be very helpful.. as I’m looking for one to buy.. thank you

[@edruminfo]

You are asking the wrong person! I was involved in the development of the DTX8 so I know it very well. From a sound point of view, I think the DTX8 is MUCH more powerful, and much more realistic sounding in a mix. This is mostly down to the fact that the Yamaha uses samples (digital recordings of real drums), whereas the Roland uses modelling (composite sounds put together from various individual parts of drum and cymbal sounds). I have never met a person who bought a Roland kit for the sonic realism. However, you are the only person who knows what you want. Go and try them both and make up your own mind. Don't be persuaded by anyone (including me), especially if they are trying to get a sale from you (such as any video, music store staff, sales rep etc). Good luck.

[@johndef5075]

Great explanation of head dynamics! Would Roland pads and cymbals work with these modules?

[@edruminfo]

Thanks John. Some Roland pads will work OK, but generally Roland pads are too hot (loud) so you won't get good dynamics. Roland cymbals use a different set up to Yamaha - Yamaha have been doing 3 zone pads down a single cable for 20 years - so they won't work.

[@sammcdouall4849]

Roland cymbals can work with Yamaha if you buy (Zourman Drums) or make a special 2 into 1 cable that has a 10K ohm resistor in it.

[@edruminfo]

@@sammcdouall4849 but at the cost of one or more of the Zourman adaptors, (great as all of Ander's products are) it may be cheaper for the OP to sell the Roland pads and get the Yamahas and have some money left over. The 100% best way of using Roland pads with the Yamaha is to use an Audiofront eDrumin4 module (to do the translation) and a Kenton Midi USB Host (to convert it to USB if using the Pro module - not required if using the ProX module) but the cost is probably prohibitive.

[@FunkMauzz]

Hi , very good review , thanx for that . Question . is it possible to make kits , not only for the pads , but also assignable to midi notes like te old DTX Extreme module ?

[@edruminfo]

Hi FunkMauzz, I'm not really sure what you mean. If you mean does it respond to midi notes sent to it, then yes (play a not on a keyboard and a drum sound plays). Is that what you mean?

[@FunkMauzz]

@@edruminfo Hi Simon , on my DTX Extreme , i can make a kit consisted of either drumpads triggering , but also like on a workstation . A 128 key assignable Drumset . Like a Drumset ala GM . thnx for your reply .

[@edruminfo]

@@FunkMauzz Ah, I see what you mean. No, only the MIDI notes which are assigned to pads or pad inputs can be accessed via MIDI, and have samples assigned to them. The other notes cannot be used or have samples assigned to them. That was a particular trick which most people were unaware that the DTXT3 and DTX900 could do. You CAN do it with the DTXM12 though.

[@FunkMauzz]

@@edruminfo Thanx , thats a pity ... i was really into this unit . Greetz and Merry Xmas

[@edruminfo]

@@FunkMauzz but a DTX8 and DTXM12 combination would give you an incredibly powerful combination...

[@danielconnolly8565]

Hi, Simon. I have the same hihat as you have in this video but simply cannot get it to respond in the way you have it set up. Any advice would be really appreciated! Many thanks.

[@edruminfo]

Hi Daniel. What module do you have?

[@timjoseph887]

Question about the PCY155 ride cymbal on the DTX8..Sometimes I hit the edge and it's dead, no feedback, other spots on the edge trigger properly. Is there a way to adjust this or could it be a defective trigger?

[@edruminfo]

I doubt it’s a defective trigger as that would normally cause the whole edge to stop working if it was damaged (but not always). What trigger setting are you using for the ride?

[@timjoseph887]

@@edruminfo curve is set to norm.

[@edruminfo]

@@timjoseph887 Thats the velocity curve, not the trigger setting. Go to Menu, Trigger, Pad Type, and hit the ride (PCY155). Does it say PCY155 on the screen or does it say something else?

[@timjoseph887]

@@edruminfo It does show PCY155. Is each zone on the ride configurable for setting norm, loud, hard etc?

[@edruminfo]

@@timjoseph887 The volume of each zone is editable, but not the sensivity. Like 99% of cymbal pads, the edge and the bell are switches which work off the signal being picked up by the sensor under the bow of the pad. Try following the instructions on the attached PDF just on the ride to get the sensitivity right for you. www.dropbox.com/s/iorcd8qq63s5r7m/Setting%20Up%20Triggers%20on%20DTXPROX.pdf?dl=0

[@canadianbassist-garrettont7368]

curious with these sort of kits can you have both the song from say a laptop and the drums come through the headphones? also can these be reversed for left handed?

[@edruminfo]

Yes, and yes! I hope that helps.

[@canadianbassist-garrettont7368]

@@edruminfo totally thank you these seems like the best bang for the buck. I’m new to drumming so I want something that I won’t be wanting to upgrade I’m a year or 2. Unless you have any other suggestions. Also the key goal here is I don’t want my wife complaining cause she can’t watch tv in another room lol

[@edruminfo]

@@canadianbassist-garrettont7368 Sounds perfect then!

[@Steve2112Rocks]

Is it possible to add another Tom pad? I would really like a two up two down set up.

[@edruminfo]

Totally. If you split the tom inputs you can actually add another four toms.

[@Steve2112Rocks]

@@edruminfo Thank you Simon!

[@ianmclean5541]

I’m curious Simon if there is a difference in feel between the two different kick pads in your opinion?

[@edruminfo]

Internally they are identical. Its just the outer layer which is different. Some prefer the mesh, others the rubber. I like the feel of the rubber but the look of the mesh.

[@ianmclean5541]

@@edruminfo Yes I tend to really like the feel of the rubber. I’m hoping the mesh doesn’t mess that up. That’s what I was a little worried about. Thanks for your input Simon.

[@giannispan8129]

In the yamaha dtx10pro is there the possibility of expansion by adding a second floor tom and a third crash cymbal?

[@edruminfo]

Yes, Input 14 is a 3 zone input as is not used as standard so will take another 3 zone cymbal pad. You can add another tom into the shared input of the kick pad (or tom 1, 2, or 3). So, yes, you can.

[@giannispan8129]

@@edruminfo as for recording video recording via android smartphone from a backing track song, does it save it separately from the drum recording? I haven't understood from the video on you tube

[@policeluber6720]

Did you ever try the pearl mimic pro ? Thx

[@edruminfo]

Yes I have. It's a really great module, but you cant load multi layer samples in in the same way, the effects are not as powerful, and numerous other things. The Mimic sounds great, as long as you like Steven Slate sounds. Also, so far Pearl have not really supported it in the way they need to. If they really got behind it, it could be really great. Thanks for watching.

[@ashleycox432]

Excellent video. I'd be interested in your opinion on how the DTX 10X compares with the ATV Artist series with an AD5 module, particularly for an acoustic drummer who wants 1 great-sounding raw acoustic kit and nothing else. I purchased an artist kit a couple of years ago and have regretted it since. It's woefully under-developed, none of the expansion modules that were supposed to come out ever materialised and the module is lacking when it comes to connectivity on stage. I hate the cable snake, the fact that the toms are single-zone and the user interface. Probably my most regretted music gear purchase, I can't wait to get rid of it. Do you a think a DTX10X would be a good choice for its long overdue replacement?

[@edruminfo]

Hi Ashley. Thanks for getting in touch. I've got to say, I love the aD5 - I have one - but as you say, it lost its way and hasn't been developed since, and it is woefully lacking in editing and expansion. I think the DTX ProX would be a perfect module, although it will do much more than you need! If I were you, I would sell the ATV cymbals and the module, keep the drums (as they will work perfectly with the ProX) and just buy the ProX module and the Yamaha cymbal pads (as the ATV cymbals will not work with the new modules). I think you'll probably get a good price for the gear you were selling, which should cover a good percentage of what you need to buy. Sounds like a win/win to me.

[@ashleycox432]

​@@edruminfo Thanks for your reply. One aspect of the DTX10 that really interested me was the fact that you can now get TCS heads on real wood shells. I had a DTX750K years ago and I absolutely loved the feel of it. I only got rid of it because it was starting to sound quite dated and it looked like an electronic drum kit on stage, whereas I prefer an acoustic look and feel. Do you know if it's possible to buy just the TCS heads and triggers to fit the ATV shells as the sizes are obviously similar? I couldn't find them through a quick search but I may not be looking hard enough. It's a shame Yamaha don't sell these kits as a package without the hex rack. I have a Gibraltar rack that I'll keep. I never really use any of the module editing features once I have everything setup, as I'm totally blind and can't see the screen. That was one of the features of the AD5 that actually appealed to me. It's a real shame no drum manufacturers have been open to the idea of implementing accessibility into their modules, even just primitive speech support. I tend to get a kit sounding how I want and just leave it at that, but I would love to have the option to delve in a bit more if they were open to making the modules more accessible. I'm a software dev and if I had the source code to the firmware I'd do it myself, but that isn't going to happen any time soon.

[@edruminfo]

@@ashleycox432 PM me on [e-mail]. We might have a few things to talk about, and it would be less public. Talk soon

[@sammcdouall4849]

Ashley Cox The 2 Box Drumit 3 and 5 mark 2 modules may be good for you. You can load any drum kit from any VST or record and play your own acoustic kit. With 2 Box modules you have adjustments over tuning, volume and decay for very realistic acoustic sounds. You can keep your ATV drum pads and cymbals and even use Yamaha pads and cymbals if you want. There are up to 8 outputs for live use. The 2 Box operating system is very open and I think it would be easy to write speech detection into this simple system. I hope this helps you think about 2 Box as the module for your needs.

[@ashleycox432]

@@sammcdouall4849 Thanks, I am actually considering a drumit5 as an alternative. I can control everything on the 2Box in software which is a major advantage for me.

[@hiendinh7808]

Hi Simon. can the snare buzz sound be turned off ?

[@edruminfo]

No, because theses are samples of real drums, no modelled (synthesised) sounds. If you want toms and snares without snare buzz, just find the correct samples and load them in.

[@Bcwilderness]

great opener dude, are you vail for any session work in wiltshire

[@edruminfo]

Thanks for asking. Most session work I do now is usually online as it is much easier all round. If you want someone to come to you I can think of really good drummers who are MUCH closer to you than I am.

[@Bcwilderness]

@@edruminfo i would really appreciate that simon, im near chippenham, looking for a session guy for a video kinda soundgarden vibe, any info or pointers to a few drummers would be awesome, many thanks

[@edruminfo]

@@Bcwilderness Can you email me through the edruminfo.com site? rather then put it all on here?

[@joshuagrocott]

Why are you the only one I can find reviewing these kits?

[@edruminfo]

Hi. I'm not the only one!. I've seen reviews by Sweetwater, Drummers Review, Drum-Tec and others so they are out there. Also, I'm not really reviewing them, more showing what it possible, as I worked on them so I know them pretty well (I think... and hope!)

[@joshuagrocott]

@@edruminfo well - my dtx8k-m is coming next week, so you must have done something right...

[@edruminfo]

@@joshuagrocott I can only apologise…😉 Great! Well done. You’ll love it

[@jacquesfontaine553]

Hi SImon and thanks a lot for your useful work. even though I appreciated the work of yamaha on these electronic drums (realistic sounds, ease of use, realistic rooms, and these amazing TCS surfaces) some details shock me (especially at this price):The outputs on the pro x module are not balanced and this is,for me, an error for a module of this price and intended for live stage; it would have been better to put individual mono balanced outputs . Moreover, I understood that the samples (on a zone) can be set into ABCD parts (which can be alternated) of 10 layers each. are these 4 alternating zones really enough to definitively make disappear this "machine gun" effect on single stroke rolls. Jac (former seller and adviser for acoustic and electronic kits for a long long time 🙂, drummer, MAO, composer and studio sound engineer from France)

[@edruminfo]

Hi Jacques, thanks for the kind words. While I understand where you are coming from regarding balanced/unbalanced outputs, as live situations would require the individual outputs rather that the master outputs I had a look at the direct/individual outputs on a random load of other modules which are out there. The direct outputs are unbalanced on the GEWA G9, TD30, TD20, TD27, TM6, SPDSX, Pearl eMerge and Alesis Strike. In fact, the only modules with balanced direct outputs for live use are the Pearl Mimic and the TD50. So, on stage, as long as good quality DI boxes are close to the PROX module, and good quality shielded cables are used, there will be little opportunity for noise to get into the signal path. Having unbalanced individual outputs allows the module to be smaller (less sockets), cheaper (less sockets) and with the internal shielding and high build quality, noise should be less of an issue anyway. I understand that in a perfect world, everything would be balanced, but also in a perfect world, we wouldn't have MP3 format files, mini jacks and phone speakers, or any of the many other things that do not help good audio quality. As far as the 4 layers, they are there only to allow samples to alternate each hit, as the chance of hitting exactly the same velocity on five consecutive hits is pretty small. If you haven't seen it, I explain it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoaUgZptg8hjipY As far as the quality, you tell me, how does the snares off sample sound here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoaUgZptg8hjipY ? I think it sounds pretty good, and that is in a solo situation, which drummers rarely play in, unless at home. In a situation with music, then I don't think many will tell its not acoustic, as long as they cant see the kit(!) and then they might guess. Regarding videos for loading multi layer samples into the modules, yes, there are official ones on the way. Thanks for your comments, Simon

[@chrismedz9741]

Yamaha makes good shit from bikes to bass guitars thinking I might pull the trigger thanks m8

[@cronkitepercussion]

Any pop or rock bands out there using a full ekit for live performance?

[@edruminfo]

More than you would think. They normally 'disguise' them as acoustic kits (using triggers on mesh or normal heads, or with embedded pads in drum shells), but yes. If you check out The Who on their last tour (with the orchestra) I did the programming for Zak Starkey. He's using a DW shell kit with Roland pads built into them, triggering Toontrack Superior Drummer 3. Sounded great. Have a look at Coldplay, Kylie Minogue, U2, and many, many others.

[@policeluber6720]

See,s sounds and ability to expand them in a cost effective and simple way for me as I don’t water t0 make a sample I want to play literally a million diff sets at min can I do that without getting nerdy ?and what set for this and I need to as close to the dynamic responsive as I trained to be a jazz funk and rock player