A Closer Look at Women's Basketball History w/ Jemele Hill Following Caitlin Clark's Historic Night

Jemele Hill helps put Caitlin Clark's stardom into perspective within the rest of women's basketball history. Has Women's basketball coverage increased? Or is it only covering Caitlin Clark? We look at all of that and more.
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[@haleyworden4]

"Not trying to take away from Caitlin.." Proceeds to take away and diminish her and make it about the color of her skin.

[@Rainy2255]

Yeah I am getting sick of people building up Caitlin in one sentence….and then unloading crap in the next breath

[@marcdaddy33]

Race Card is one of the more popular cards. Yes soccer has yellow cards and red cards. But race card is most popular - on both sides. But there are good guys om both sides. Still - white men claim anything less than worship of CC is due to her being white (race card). And BW cry about the lack of attention of BW players (race card).

[@catherinemcdavid1533]

So, let’s just say your mother held the NCAA record back in 1978 for points scored and her stats were better than Caitlyn Clark, you turn on the TV and suddenly they’re saying someone else hold the record and their stats are not as good as your mothers. Do you keep quiet just because of the color of your skin, worried someone may accuse you of bringing race to the discussion? People, you really need to think. Yeah, if she were lying about the previous player having better stats or a higher record for scoring, that would be one thing, but that’s not the case.

[@catherinemcdavid1533]

@@marcdaddy33 if you think CC can be considered attacked.. you are blind to everything else going on.

[@catherinemcdavid1533]

@@marcdaddy33 If we put things into the proper perspective, you are comparing apples to oranges. Calling a young lady a "long eye lash ho", Bayou Slut, classless, among many other derogatory names vs. what you just pointed to.. Caitlin hasn't been attacked. People being jealous of her and sometimes petty vs. abusive names with absolutely nothing to do with her basketball skills and threats (physically and sexually) no comparison. Angel had a reason to cry the other night... and she wasn't crying because they lost.

[@194fa]

I have never heard J Hill ever talk about anything other than race.

[@TJrules299]

What is your point?

[@BKABeloved]

That says more about you than her

[@coachhbosoccer]

That just means you don't follow ALL her topics of discussion

[@nickcothran3307]

@@coachhbosoccerhaha. Who does?

[@Nobody-eq2rr]

@@coachhbosoccer she only ever talks about race, she’s been fired from every show because people are sick and tired of hearing about race, that’s ALL she has, and she HATES Caitlyn Clark because she’s white

[@Roadkill515]

I have followed WBB for years, and Caitlin Clarks' record-breaking season has shined the light on more than her. It has brought more attention to past greats, current players, and teams. There are more games televised outside of the team's own market this year than I have seen in past years. I believe with rising stars like Juju Watkins and Hannah Hidalgo College wbb will continue to grow.

[@blakejohnson7148]

And here I was thinking that Jemele Hill was going to be able to speak on this story without bringing race into the conversation. Silly me.

[@didactic02]

She will never be able to lol

[@spenser6353]

If black players who held the scoring records are not being recognized she should mention it

[@blakejohnson7148]

That's not happening@@spenser6353

[@Nobody-eq2rr]

@@spenser6353 why tf is race important?! Who gives af? Black people are the ONLY ones who care about race!! Y’all sooooo mad that a white girl is better than y’all 😂 it’s pathetic

[@jasonmullins4686]

We live in a racially driven eco system

[@ZJBorg]

I’ve never understood the “legacies are being erased” argument people push when these legacies weren’t being talked about or remembered to begin with. That’s one of the good things that happens when people approach/break records-more people talk about the previous record holders. There are more people who learned about Lynette Woodward’s story because a Caitlin Clark came along then had she still held the record.

[@elvisp116]

Facts nobody knew about any record till she broke it.

[@Diggs_built_different]

Soooo that means a legacy was erased… now it is being remembered.

[@ZJBorg]

@@Diggs_built_different wasn’t erased so much as just forgotten. But that’s what happens to most records with the exception of a very few like, say, the single season homerun record or Wilt’s single game scoring record. What the NCAA really should do is recognize the old governing body for women’s college basketball that Hill was talking about, AIAW, and thus allow those stats to become part of the NCAA’a historical record. Its was a matter of progress that we didn’t have the NCAA at that time anyway so recognizing that era would be a great step and that’s something that Hill should really focus on. Instead it’s always gotta be back to race with Jemele and, for whatever reason, whether it’s her intent or not, she seems to be implying that Clark breaking these records basically erases them.

[@darrenpalmore5584]

Why is everyone bring up woodard record now? Why they didn't bring this up when Plum had the records?

[@devanshepard9118]

thats very true. I never into bball but caitlyn got me into it and I learned bout Lynette woodward and lynette deserves her flowers

[@johngleason1776]

I'm a New Yorker. I went to see what tickets for the New York Liberty were going for this year. Just about every game the cheapest tickets are $30 - $40. The cheapest ticket to see them play the Iniana Fever, the team thats going to draft Caitlyn Clark, is over $200.

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Indiana is silly. Pacers attendance has been awful for years but ticket prices are still really high.

[@ryansmith8102]

@@jakeprewitt3009 Pacers has nothing to do with Caitlin Clark and Indiana Fever. Caitlin Clark is what everyone is buying tickets to come and watch. Indiana Fever prices are higher due to many buying tickets just to see Clark play. May be silly, but that's how business works. Indiana Fever is going to see a rise in popularity in the upcoming years if Caitlin Clark is successful in the WNBA. It'll be like when Lebron James was in high school and their games were sold out at high prices because people from all over the US came to see him play. It's all about the athlete, not the team. People enjoy entertainment and like to see great players excel at their game. Caitlin Clark is just one of these entertainers that will bring a lot of money to Indiana Fever for years to come.

[@colleenposadas8415]

same here in Seattle

[@nsn5564]

As a hardcore Oregon fan who was/is a ride or die with Sabrina Ionescue (who was robbed of her inevitable National Championship by Covid) I am thrilled to see Caitlin come along and be as great if not greater. I want women's basketball, both college and pros, to become successful and popular, at least self-sustaining. They're more popular than regular season MLB, NBA and hockey over all, right now. It's time to strike to get the sport into a higher strata of pop consciousness...

[@damnthatsfr5475]

"Inevitable" when a 32-1 south carolina team was right there🙄

[@nsn5564]

@@damnthatsfr5475hehehehehe we had you, we had you.

[@justtester_9962]

What would be the story if Hockey for example got a Steph Curry or MJ in the league? In one way or another with ample media push to propel it and the eventual sheep that would follow, we might get something similar to the Tiger Woods or current Caitlin Clark effect. A hot story is a hot story.

[@PatrickORourke-yz3xn]

The fact that you start off by saying you are astonished this could happen in Iowa reveals more ignorance regarding the lack of exposure for women's basketball. Where did the national player of the year come from in 2019? What has been the trajectory of Iowa women's basketball in the last 8-10 years? Iowa has consistently had very solid and entertaining teams, thanks to Bluder, but they were not elite and just one or two elite players on such a team can transform them. This could have happened with Caitlin on many teams. She might have easily become a Cyclone and it would have been exactly the same. There are so many teams right under the top tier that could be crashers with one elite 5-star recruit. If Juju or CC was a Cyclone, they would be top 5.

[@shaker027]

There is nothing to do in Iowa, so you have to watch college

[@PatrickORourke-yz3xn]

Is ignorance as bliss as they say?@@shaker027

[@nickolesky1061]

I was sitting here watching this and jus thinking Wow ! This woman is soo miserable 😂

[@truthbtold8697]

Most of them are...

[@Oneanddone14]

And her arguments are pathetic.

[@enlightenmentpublishing9557]

But she's rich 😆 🤣

[@robertwhite8253]

The only difference is ANGEL REESE is no MAGIC JOHNSON!!!

[@kevinkwiatkowski7197]

She has the tools to be the next Ervin Johnson

[@jeremybenson75]

I'm very confused by the assertion that South Carolina is being ignored by the national media, on a show that is national media. South Carolina deserves all the coverage in the world, so cover it, not point out they're not being covered.

[@youtube6238]

SC is all over ESPN. They’ve been ranked #1 all season. Caitlin Clark has put up points, assists and rebounds that no one has put up. She’s taken a team that doesn’t have any other stars and taken them to the National Championship game. Of course they’re going to talk about her a lot and how much attention she’s brought to the game.

[@nickgoesvestmode]

WELL SAID. I am so tired of the media blaming themselves for their own shortcomings and not DOING ANYTHING about it!

[@TJrules299]

@@youtube6238she ain’t put up rebounds. Don’t give the girl extras.

[@youtube6238]

@@TJrules299 Ya right!! She has like a 1,000 career rebounds. You’re clueless.

[@ramprat5812]

@@TJrules299lol she gets a decent amount of triple doubles for someone who ain’t putting up rebounds 😂

[@back2sports988]

There it is the Lary Bird and magic johnson comparison. going to hear this over and over again until April 2024

[@squideye1144]

Well spoken!

[@MsNerdsRevenge]

Uljana Semjonova she is 7ft 4in she was drafted by Iowa Cornets, WBL. Have you seen her play before. She's amazing! In 1993 she was inducted into the Baskeketball hall of fame as well as the WNBA hall of fame in 1999.

[@thegreatthrasher]

I do get what jemele is saying but this can done for all sports. We forget the past in all things. No one caring on what the ABA did. Just like i don't really care what you did before integration. While you do need more women to talk on this. Shaq not being able to talk why its not too different to where Doris can speak on mens. Also the media not talking about South Carolina undefeated streak is what happens in sports. When Zion was dominating we didn't care of other teams

[@devanshepard9118]

very true unfortunately how sports media is now they dont uphold legacies anymore like they use 2. when i was a kid and the olympics were coming around nbc or abc would do specials on past winners . I am a school librarian i did a game for the elementary kids about black athletes for black history month. These kids had no idea who flojo,tiger woods,venus williams, even ali are anymore.

[@jnkazee2526]

Yeah, people prolly wouldn't know about George Mikan if Jordan didn't happen. It's not unique to the WNBA. Only in MLB, which was successful before the other major leagues, are the former players are grandfathered into our American psyche.

[@cristoballk5610]

To be fair, Iowa put Clark back into the game vs MN with under 5 minutes to play and a 40 point lead simply to make a 3 and break Lynette Woodard's record. Then during the postgame interview, Iowa coach Bluder talked about Lynette how all the AIAW records should be included in the NCAA record books. By making that 3 pointer, it allowed Lynette and the AIAW to be discussed for several days. Had Clark stayed on the bench and waited until the OSU game, both Lynette's and Pete's records would have been broken, but all the talk would have been about Pete. During the OSU vs IA game, Lynette was introduced and got a standing ovation. Maya Moore was there as well.

[@tapout9742]

She can score but people calling Clark the goat is wild.

[@gilbertclement5427]

Critically analyzing does not include lying. Swoopes did not analyze anything but her prejudices towards Clark.

[@PatrickORourke-yz3xn]

When you are speaking as an expert from inside the silo of women's college basketball history, you recognize the "snowball" itself is driving the attention as much as the game. You complain that you wish South Carolina would get more press because of their incredible accomplishments, but here is the rub, would you prefer the previous situation where SC get's the lion's share of press in a tiny silo because they deserve the space, or do you get your marketing mind in gear to take advantage of the rocket that exposes your accomplishments to a much larger audience? Don't be jealous and lazy regarding pushing your value as a entertaining product, when all these people you call ignorant are yapping about a spectacular player leading a transformation. Yes, they are ignorant, but the fact that their ignorance is loudly expressed publicly now is an opportunity, not a problem. And that opportunity is largely a product of college career of Caitlin Clark.

[@edgardusmc]

Race card 😂. Here we go

[@jamesbroomfield45]

Your a fool to think it left

[@devanshepard9118]

Imma say this as someone who hated basketball growing up Caitlyn led me 2 enjoy womens basketball this year and I looked up lynette woodward after she was trending and that woman was amazing and deserves her flowers.

[@rbrinks5]

Don't talk about the sport and the complain. Talk about the sports biggest star, maybe ever, and they complain.

[@thekidsavage4511]

People don’t understand the line between racism vs discrimination. Most people are not racist they are prejudice or discriminate .

[@chucks1673]

Yeahhhh .... I think I'll go with Shaq's take .....

[@Getyouranglesports]

I feel like I've made a mistake watching that game now. I won't do it again. Sorry jeez😂

[@mikeandresen3169]

L.A born & bred white guy here , Cheryl Miller is the real best women’s BBall player period

[@marcdaddy33]

Racist

[@Oneanddone14]

@@marcdaddy33 HA! The GOAT conversation is subjective, especially in a team sport.

[@marcdaddy33]

@@Oneanddone14 my comment your statement does not refute

[@Oneanddone14]

@@marcdaddy33 I don't even know who Cheryl Miller is, but you may be that person who labels people racist that disagree with you. Hope not, for that is a lazy way to view the world.

[@marcdaddy33]

@@Oneanddone14 Caitlin Clark is the goat. To say otherwise is to be racist. Plain and simple.

[@ac5923]

Caitlin Clark has shined the light on those that came before.

[@Oneanddone14]

Exactly. Why is that so hard to understand.

[@nsn5564]

There may not be racism on the sports playing side, but there is tremendous racism in the sports fandom and sports coverage area. It's true in every aspect of life.

[@davidclos6193]

Racist because white people are routing for a white person. How is that different from tiger woods or the Williams sisters. How many watched that sport before a black person started to dominate that sport. Double standards on the race card.

[@Rico513]

2 Americas

[@justtester_9962]

There's a certain amount of of bias in all of it from every side. Think music history, etc.

[@bradclifton5248]

​@@justtester_9962 bias exists within everyone. Ignoring that this is a reality is where prejudice starts. Like a drummer, human nature does not easily maintain a perfect tempo. A drummer has to know this and be very deliberate about maintaining it to avoid going off time.

[@thekidsavage4511]

No! There is discrimination not racism.

[@LastStopPod]

Bot comments is hilarious

[@anthonysimpson4221]

👀 around Black folks in particular don’t really support women’s basketball.

[@tempcbuilds]

Caitlyn clark is the larry bird effect of woman basketball. She is gifted and as talented as larry was.

[@bobzelley5100]

I like the shoe cabinet

[@user-xc4uq3cr4b]

Hundred percent right

[@fingerpickingood1900]

Pearl Moore played a different game. She played 6x6. You guys are too young to remember that brand of ball. The way the game was played with 3x3 on one end of the court, 3x3 at the other end. Pearl never had to play defense. Can't imagine how much Caitlin would score in that game. She might have scored 2,000 a season. As for Sheryl, she made 3 way off statements. With those wrong things that's not analyzing, thats dissing.

[@bigmikelove3823]

Holy shit! I don’t know how, or better yet why I made it through this segment, with these redundant bozos! Fuck me 😂

[@margamantoni]

Caitlin Clark / Angel Reese narrative needs to be developed…..or find an engaging storyline to grab the interest of casual fans like me

[@1985malibuexpress]

How do you feel about Mr. Paul Pearce's comment about "black girls" playing against a "white girl?"

[@back2sports988]

Swoopes was not racist - she was charles barkley. - back in my day

[@user-kf2qv4vm5l]

Ah, look what she did to the Loyola team she coached. You have to be pretty bad to get every player to quit

[@enlightenmentpublishing9557]

It's amazing what people want to hear ---Jemele praises CC, but highlighted the reality of race as a factor-- And people are acting as if that's something new - people are acting appalled to a reality. Caitlin Clark is the greatest college shooter, not player but shooter. But the game existed before her and it will exist after her.

[@jordanhewins5446]

I'd rather Caitlin Clark be judged by the content of her character rather than the color of her skin Jemele

[@back2sports988]

yes praise Shaq who recommended lowering the rim. Come on.

[@jimmyjohn8811]

If you can keep the people separated you can control them with ease That's what's been happening in this country since the ending of slavery😮

[@thekidsavage4511]

Lol with what’s she saying black men should thank white men because they started play it first . That logic is dumb

[@ericbickel5465]

Is there ever a time this person speaks without bringing up race?

[@miocid31]

Is the truth hitting ya hard?

[@JamaalMills]

Don’t tell on yourself 😂😂

[@romeyrome32]

"This person" thank you for showing the world what kind of sorry ass you really are. SMH. Get therapy.

[@nsn5564]

"Why is that woman constantly screaming?" -- he asks of the woman who is constantly being assaulted. Stay there in your white privileged straight male world where you pushed YOUR agenda for thousands of years and we had to listen to what YOU thought was important. How dare anyone else push their ideas, opinions, right? How dare anyone else's experience matter? How such horrible people have no problem and feel no embarrassment coming off so stupid, sexist, racist and exposing themselves in public in front of the world I don't know.

[@warrenpeace5150]

nope

[@davidellis5141]

🙋‍♂️ ! Help ! I'm overwhelmed by bots !!

[@BredSuperb]

Thank you, Jessica for mentioning how Dawn Staley and South Carolina are being overlooked and underreported on.

[@owenhall765]

I believe Dawn Staley is a great coach and has a great team. When the talk about being overlooked, us folks in Iowa don't get to see many of their games. West coast teams are harder to find than East coast. I have searched for South Carolina games more this year and have caught a couple. So I don't know if the SEC doesn't promote as much or why they are overlooked.

[@BredSuperb]

@@owenhall765 I believe that for sure. Thing is, many of us don’t have to go look for Caitlin coverage. The media outlets will always make sure people find coverage of her and well deserved. I never had to go find coverage of UCONN when they had their undefeated seasons when I was growing up in California. So I think it’s more about who media wants to highlight.

[@helenoftroy1227]

@@BredSuperbSpot on.

[@Oneanddone14]

BULL-oney.

[@aytac007]

why does everything have to be about race, nobody diminished who paved the way to get to this point, you need stars for the womens game to grow, especially in the wnba, caitlin will bring that, if you had 5 more stars in tthe wnba like that, then people might actually watch the wnba, i also think that because she is heterosexual, has no tattoos, a girl you would take home to meet with your parents and take to the prom is what people are finding more relatable about her.

[@bobzelley5100]

Legacies are temporary for that specific generation plus 40 years . Only a small select group, babe ruth , have longevity . We are forgotten quickly on the geologic scale

[@back2sports988]

Ironic that Meadowlark Media doing a segment on how women basketball is not covered when they themselves do not cover it. If Lebron James Farts then to be sure - Meadowlark would do 3 segments on it! Hell yall spent an entire broadcast trying to work out what soup JR Smith threw at the assistant coach. "Chicken tortilla" BTW that was a great segment!

[@back2sports988]

south carolina not getting ATTENTION! WHAT! you are not watching it is out there if you want it.

[@Mpunch07]

I get what she’s saying but it’s kinda reckless. Women’s basketball is probably at an all time high right now because of Clarke. Her comments are going to come off as divisive and she must know that. Last few years it’s been “what about women’s basketball?” this and that, so the (calculated) timing of this is frustrating IMO. Let her shine because no one else has done this for the sport that I can think of off the top of head.It’s just a distraction at the worst time.

[@redscorpion9325]

How is Angel better if Caitlin has better Stats?

[@Oneanddone14]

Because she is black. That is their main criteria.

[@larrycarter1875]

Jemele made a lot of valid points. Some may not want to hear but it is what it is. Caitlin is a great player and has the potential to be the best ever one day but I do agree with a lot of what is said. One point I wish that was brought up with a lot of guys that never watched women before is this need to compare her to steph. Don’t get me wrong, I see the logo 3 comparison but I think a better comparison is, she’s a combo is three players: sue bird, Diana Taurasi, and Sabrina Ionesco. Just my opinion

[@Oneanddone14]

Steph gets brough into the equation because most of the folks watching the women's final four - or Sports Center for that matter - do not know who those ladies are. MMA/UFC is WAY bigger than women's basketball, yet the average spots fan can only name Conor Mcgreger and Ronda Rousey, and she hasn't fought in 8 years.

[@larrycarter1875]

@@Oneanddone14 I disagree. Those are some of the most well known names in women’s basketball, even if people remember from college and don’t support the WNBA. I believe some new fans maybe don’t or aren’t that familiar. With the recent fame of Sabrina, I find it hard to believe people don’t know her.

[@Oneanddone14]

@@larrycarter1875 My point was the vast majority of the millions watching the final 4 could not name those women given their pictures. Unless one watches the WNBA regularly, which is 500k when broadcast, 1/30th of the final 4, they could not name 3 wnba players. Sabrina who? The biggest demographic of fans are gay women. That is a small group to dig for expansion. How ever backward or offensive this sounds, the majority of the new millions are men and straight women, and a huge part of that are young, white girls and women. Those are the folks buying the tickets and selling out arenas. It will be culturally shocking to view the crowds this year compared to last year.

[@Rico513]

I find it funny that Swoopes was 1st on the ledge with her simple take that The WNBA will be harder, and she was attacked all over with little to no support..and here we are today and Shery's take is now being pased around and people are no longer afraid to say that Caitlyn might have some issues adjusting to the next level...2 Americas

[@warrenpeace5150]

nonsense

[@rondempesmeier1845]

Swopes was inaccurate in saying Clark had 5 seasons and shot a huge number of times to beat the scoring records. It wasn't about her potential WNBA career.

[@elliemyers6435]

It's insane that people would attack her for saying that...Especially from Sheryl Swoopes, who LIVED this. She saw first hand how much of a step-up pros is from college, so she knows what she's talking about. Also, I remember Sabrina Ionescu, just four years ago was almost as hyped as Caitlin is, and it took her a while to really get adjusted at the pro level. It's a step up...Now, Caitlin may be great immediately, a la Aliyah Boston, A'ja, and many others, but it'll be no big deal if it takes her some time to adjust. That's normal.

[@johnnycash8567]

Because she was downplaying her success when everyone should be hyping it up, women’s basketball needs all the help it can get especially the wnba

[@OneoftheCaesars]

I remember when this show was great. Now its just bait

[@tedmich]

Its too bad there is so little money in the WNBA, won't Caitlin have to go to Russia to make money?

[@Oneanddone14]

She is making MILLIONS in endorsements. She could give her salary to charity if she wanted.

[@aidanwatson910]

Jamele Hill hates greatness

[@justinlong3552]

Everyone who really watches Basketball, knows A’Ja Wilson the best women’s player in the world. Y’all speaking on Novice fans. Clark got the Steph syndrome fun player to watch cause she shoots it from 25-30 feet. Y’all over complicating this. Appreciate the convo though.

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Yeah, if she has a great career Caitlin Cark will end up in the top 15 of all time. I don't see any way she passes Taurasi or Catchings to get into the GOAT conversation. She shoots really well from deep though.

[@elliemyers6435]

Yeah, A'ja is 100% the best in the world right now, and is I'd say in the top 10 players of all-time, right now...2 Titles, two DPOYs, 2 MVPs, a Finals MVP, gold medal, NCAA title, and counting...She could be a top 5 player when it's all said and done. Caitlin, I think she'll be awesome, but, definitely a long way to go to get into the GOAT discussion

[@elliemyers6435]

@@jakeprewitt3009Glad you brought up Tamika, who is underrated as an all-time great. Her steals record will never be broken, + she won DPOY FIVE times...That's another record that won't be broken...A'ja or someone else MAY also get five of those, but no one is getting six. Catch is arguably the best defender in the history of women's hoops...and maybe the best two-way player ever on the perimeter. She definitely needs to be mentioned WAY more on the goat discussion than she is.

[@marcdaddy33]

SNOB Yall want women's sports to grow and then attack the new fans who come along to help it grow. New fans aren't going to k ow immediately all the stars or history. When your leagues get POSITIVE attention, give them a reason to WANT to stay.. if not. Then continue to depend on the NBA to bail you out of another year of revenue losses

[@99problems253]

There's always a "But" with Hill.

[@justtester_9962]

Just throwing some names out there: Tiger Woods, Elvis, MJ, Pele, The Beatles, Larry Bird, Steph Curry, Superman, and countless others from every sector of humanity. Most of it tend to be fueled by our desire for greatness and greater than thou, and propelled by the all the sheep among us who gravitate toward the latest shiny object. It comes and goes and as we always say: "History repeats itself." NEXT! LOL Breaking News!!! Caitlin Clark was just outed as a "carpet lover" 😧 Watch how many of the sheep jump off the bandwagon. 🤣🤣🤣

[@plantbased5673]

I'm pretty sure that's fake news. She has a boyfriend.

[@BB12659]

Turn the page on Aja, here comes Caitlin!

[@nsn5564]

Jemele is 100% right. Thanks for spotlighting these issues, Dan and Jemele!

[@boblester8641]

Neither one of these people know womens basketball history. Shout out to Lusia Harris. Delta State

[@JustinR150]

If CC was gay and black she would be MJ level played. That’s ridiculous.

[@coachhbosoccer]

My fellow Americans Lets state the obvious. If a black or brown girl played the way Clark did, she wouldnt be in a State Farm commercial. We may not like to bring up race. As a Coach in sports i find it silly. Stats speak louder. CC is such a good player. But so are the others, and they dont get the same positive coverage or adulation.

[@99problems253]

1. Clark is a Great player. 2. Clark is smashing records. 3. Her game is compared to Steph Curry. 4. Beast on the court Humble off the court. 5. Earned everything she's getting. 6. Angel Reese has a commercial with Amazon. Flau Jae has a commercial with Amazon. Reese doing Vogue magazine. Reese making appearances all over the place. Only other girl basketball player I can think of that's Clark comparable in my opinion is JuJu and she's hands down better than Reese. We can go down a long list of girls that are better than Reese not getting any attention. So that's a little proof you don't have to play like Clark to get commercial deals.

[@coachhbosoccer]

@@99problems253 none of the other players received a 28m Nike contract, or something close to that. Your argument is flawed. She's great, a sports marketers dream. You are posting as if they all got the same $. They didn't. I wouldn't even compare her to Curry. Curry wasn't a star coming out of college. It would be more Jordan or LeBron, in terms of Marketability.

[@los4drum]

Everything Jemell said was spot on. Ppl act as if womens ball started with Caitlyn. It didnt!! Theres a long list women hoopers out here. You can take the time and look up those vaunted UCONN teams, Geno has been around for 30 yrs and won 11 nattys!!! TENN, Coach Summit was around for 30 yrs. They were straight dawgs!!! The wnba pioneers: stayley, catchings, lobo, swoops, cooper, holdsclaw, ivey, mcgee twins, C. Miller ect they were killers in college too. Its just the media didnt cover them like they are covering womens ball now.

[@99problems253]

4:20 before race brought up.🤦‍♂️.

[@jeffii9890]

Jemele gave Caitlin her flowers and props, but all *_YOU,_* not her, can focus on is race. You're obsessed with something Black people are forced to live with everyday.

[@malebovinemanure]

@@jeffii9890 Yes. There are some white people who only like Clark because she is white, but you cannot deny that there are some black people that don't like Clark because she is white. Here is my issue: Every time I see a diverse group of people, like this panel, inevitably this will be said, Clark is great, BUT. Why does there have to be a but? Just let Clark have her moment. I don't give a damn about her color. I care about her talent. Just like I did with Simone Biles.

[@scottwhitt9379]

Legacies are always erased. How many times do you hear people talk about Otto Graham and Marion Motley? Their Browns teams were monsters. Legacies are meant to be erased.

[@jeffii9890]

Jemele literally says this. What point are you even trying to make?

[@marcdaddy33]

The entire pre Super Bowl Era of football is erased - apart from Jim Brown and Vince Lombardi

[@HighPlainsDrifter53]

That was too predictable from jemelle hill

[@why1968]

Lets talk about DEI in the WNBA / NBA. Why not more white players? We have allowed DEI in piloting, health care, etc...Practice what you preach!

[@williamperson3577]

Clark is excellent, period. That's the only reason people care. Now ask me why they don't care about the WNBA.

[@roberthoneywell]

It is unfortunate that this racial element has to exist, but it does. You are not wrong to point out that SC is not as popular as Iowa, despite going undefeated for the second year in a row. SC fans love their team no less because of Caitlin Clark, and are understandably jealous of all the hype, (not to mention that Iowa beat them in the final four last season). So how do we get beyond this? I really think sports casters try to leave race out of it for the most part, but networks go with the story that will sell products. This is certainly not Clark's fault, she's been overtly magnanimous about Lynette Woodard and Maya Moore, and I thought it was thrilling that Iowa brought them both to the game and honored them......we love our women's basketball in Iowa. I mean, our coach was the legendary C. Vivian Stringer for years! Still, I am tired of listening and reading comments about why black players are being overlooked in the conversations about basketball. Black players don't own the game any more than white players do. We should all be more aware and accepting of what these great players and teams are doing, and take this racial angst out of it.

[@warrenpeace5150]

representation matters

[@marcdaddy33]

Why are SBW such snowflakes? Isn't that a contradiction?

[@irrelevantopinions81]

It is a star driven model. Clark is generational talent. The gamecocks are the spurs. Dominant but not interesting. Individual stars are what drives the machine,

[@irrelevantopinions81]

We seem to understand the star driven model in every other sports space. Lebron and Steph are discussed more than the Celtics and Nuggets because they generate more interest. Clark is the star of women's hoops right now. Instead of celebrating that there seems to be this push to make sure that black women are included. Greatness is not fair. Some people have the juice and others do not. Celebrate the juice. Everyone does not need to be celebrated. Eras, and people get ignored all the time

[@mandelharvey3429]

I couldn’t find Caitlin Clark on a broadcast game. I watch women’s basketball. I watched sec basketball. I’d like to see what the hype about Clark is all about. Like page is a good player. She’s worth watching. Every team in the sec is a great television show. UConn is a good team who plays a good game. The television show isn’t always as entertaining. The big ten doesn’t much care about women’s basketball. They’re not showcased at all. Seriously. I should have easily gotten to see the girl play. Oh. The little bit I’ve seen of Clark is she’s another good player. She’d have been appreciated had she played in the sec.

[@edgardorodriguez3710]

Talk about racist, because she's not black she has to talk about other black players and there accomplishments instead of of talking about her greatness. For these that say black people cant be racist are wrong, they are people like everyone else and hold certain prejudices, its just human nature.

[@youtube6238]

The show is Caitlin Clark’s play. Her deep shots. Crazy passing, emotional energy. They’re covering her for a reason. She’s the best at basketball right now. Not everything is about race. I’m sick of this bullshit.

[@jracee1]

*big yawn* i wonder what the little lady's makkng for dinner tonight 🤔

[@justinball5068]

Switch the races here…..yea it would be called racism

[@EShow-rm7zb]

Well I just stumbled on the worst content on the internet. And there’s some bad stuff out there! Time to go to bed

[@99problems253]

Blonde hair?🤔

[@iamshebeeloloindigenous]

So what? She's a beautiful knowledgeable guest. Stop looking at the outside and proving their point.

[@99problems253]

@@iamshebeeloloindigenous Just pointing out the hypocrisy from Hill. There are plenty of videos out there of her talking about this and that and who can claim this and that when it comes to hairstyles.

[@carloswhatley5182]

It’s all a matter of opinion, and not one basketball player for women has never done what Caitlin is doing PERIOD

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Jemele not sound/look like absolute dogshit challenge: Impossible. She needs to get a decent camera/mic setup like four years ago.

[@JamaalMills]

Or maybe you are so interested in her looks you aren’t listening to what she’s saying but lemme guess Erin Andrew’s drops jewels 😂😂

[@jakeprewitt3009]

What the fuck does Erin Andrews have to do with Jemele Hill sounding and looking like she's calling in with an iPhone 4 from her closet? Her video and audio quality are always so bad. A decent camera, mic, and backdrop would cost her next to nothing. She's easily the worst sounding and worst video quality of any regular meadowlark contributor.

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Are you just stupid and thought I was saying that Jemele Hill is ugly?

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Go back and read my comment. I didn't say a damn thing about Erin Andrews. Jemele Hill comes on here just about every week and has the worst video and audio quality of any regular contributor. She sounds and looks like she's doing these segments on speakerphone in her closet.

[@romeyrome32]

​@@JamaalMills🎯

[@haleyworden4]

Jesus

[@adalbertoramirez3926]

We have to give Angel Reese is not better than Caitlyn Clark there's no way in hell that is true

[@gottogosavelives5715]

I'd bet all I have in Vegas , and I'd bet that she couldn't make it through a segment without bringing up race.

[@SoCaliGuyHB394]

CC 's skills are mesmerizing. She's fun/entertaining just like S Curry, Trae Young, and Ja Morant. Race isn't a factor for me.

[@georgemccain8896]

Why is it so hard to understand that Caitlyn Clarke is just fun to watch, don’t nobody wanna watch a game full of mediocre layups

[@johnvaughn2590]

Interviews in which all the participants agree are not terribly useful, to me. And by the way, black people be hatin' on white players for a very long time. Maravich, Bird, Joker, Luka, CMC, etc.. Just a fact.

[@0P9ine]

Hill is allergic to NOT bringing up race. Her body will diminish from existence if she doesn’t bring up race. Must be exhausting always analysing things racially

[@daltonmoore233]

All the great white women who came before Caitlin still didn’t get the media coverage or views she gets… it’s not race , but because she’s easily the most entertaining female player ever. Just look at the #’s

[@alphagenisis1]

People act like all black people do well are sports and it’s evident how people characterize why people go see a huge game or become a fan. One white girl dominates a sport black people dominated forever and all of the sudden we forgot about Tiger Woods.. give me a break!

[@westword6558]

Why does it even matter what skin Color someone has

[@plantbased5673]

Ask the racist cops why it matters?

[@glenndavis5349]

South Carolina is good but boring as hell to watch.

[@back2sports988]

look closer

[@glenndavis5349]

@@back2sports988 at more boredom

[@jakeprewitt3009]

Maybe if you're a casual who only follows media narratives. They play great basketball.

[@iamshebeeloloindigenous]

​@@jakeprewitt3009 indeed 💯

[@owenhall765]

Remember South Carolina was 46 and 0; until they met Iowa and Catlin Clark.

[@charlesparrett8830]

And this is where jemele loses me man. Im sorry girl, you definitely hold some resentment towards Caitlyn. Its very obvious

[@vrcngtrx3856]

This show is terrible.

[@JF-bc2lw]

This woman sucks

[@cheerwhiner7829]

CC has a compelling game that makes people want to watch. She’s OVER with the fans, encourage this. She is selling tickets- the other women didn’t. The other women who you say are being “erased” NEVER had a compelling game that sold tickets. They didn’t. Facts are facts… the WNBA has never been solvent. Never. It has a chance now, be thankful for that. Stop complaining. Yeeesh.

[@timothysweezey1291]

She's Queen of the race baiters

[@davidmaez7253]

Who is Jamall Hill ? And didn't this dude Lebatard work at ESPN ? Jamall seems very prejudiced against White women who play basketball or just in general. FOH

[@nickcothran3307]

No one cares who the best wnba player is, that’s why they don’t know. I don’t know the best female golfer, or female ping pong player is either. Does that make me racist?