thinking the same... years of experience turned into relevant information that's easy to understand. thank you and your family for your service!
@T20-c8f4 ай бұрын
Jeff is a living breathing panty soaker.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@T20-c8f don't tell my wife
@ticket2space4 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've seen any of his videos and it's almost like there's an aura of knowledge around him. Maybe it's the gray hair combines with the black eyebrows? Idk man but you can tell he's been around once or twice
@timothycummins27004 ай бұрын
Also, the fact that you went to another team, saw outdated tactics, got shut down by command, but still gathered the funding the take your own guys to get properly trained elsewhere, is phenomenal leadership. Truly a stand up move.
@Funnyclipsgrabthechips4 ай бұрын
Ty king
@echo_research_and_development4 ай бұрын
In terms of CQB, this video ranks among the highest in useful information.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@echo_research_and_development thank you, high praise
@R12gsa094 ай бұрын
I agree, even though I can’t help thinking what on earth is going on with the brass at US SF. I was JSOC with Hellenic Special Forces, operating with US and British commandos in ‘92 in NFZ in Iraq, w/US SF in Haiti in ‘93 and with w/US SF in Bosnia in ‘94. I retired in ‘96 as SSG (E6). We were taught even then the high ready pos’n by the US Cadres and the only explanation they gave us was that the low ready is only if your training facility utilizes catwalks. Our cadres were always eye level at 6 o’clock trying to ascertain if we followed T or S formation, dominant pos’ns, etc. We were also taught that first we “neutralize the target” at entry if necessary and then clear corners; something that saved my life in Croatia during a HVT op. Sort of a “problem solving” approach Jeff talks about. It seems to me JSOC TTP’s are disconnected somehow or they’re using different TTP’s in different theatres of war; in the Balkans, Middle East and South America…
@dudedude20964 ай бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting your videos are fascinating.
@Funnyclipsgrabthechips4 ай бұрын
Ty king
@rosh5974 ай бұрын
Seeing the evolution of CQB from an SF perspective is very cool, both from a historical and practical sense. (Then again, learning from you on all matters SF is really cool).
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@rosh597 Thanks!
@USpatriot7417764 ай бұрын
I had the opportunity to be an opfor in CQB for an Army SF unit. The first few times we were heavily scripted and would all be killed and the "good guys" would take no casualties. I specifically requested that we be unscripted for a few runs and on the first unscripted run they took so many casualties that the whole mission failed. Mind you me and the opfor only had very basic training in CQB. We were then instructed to resume our scripted positions and even in the subsequent runs, the assault element always took a couple casualties. Personally I believe the unscripted run both shook the faith of the SF guys and it showed the opfor that they could bleed.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Yep exactly what happens when you stick to poor tactics based on institutionalization
@bobdole234bd4 ай бұрын
The script makes sense for a beginner or basic class or the beginning of a more comprehensive program but I definitely believe that training more sporadic or realistic scenarios is invaluable to transition into more nuanced approaches to problems.
@ericj66364 ай бұрын
I worked at a paintball field before and encountered a good number of veterans and servicemen. The guy who did the best was either a JTAC or CCT, I'm struggling to remember. He could hang with the middle of the pack tournament paintballers. It was because he had way better awareness of his own body as a target and utilized cover way better than the rest who seemed to get locked up in tunnel vision target focus but not be as aware of themselves as targets. Next best was a Recon Marine. I saw some regular army fresh back from a tour in Afghanistan get annihilated by a pair of 12 year olds. More unscripted training and a variety of OpFor would be really beneficial IMO. Local SWAT kept pulling in some tournament paintballers for OpFor and I presume they got a lot out of it from it being a repeat thing. Bring in some tournament paintballers. Some higher level competitive video gamers. Some MilSim airsofters. People who gunfight for fun and shits and giggles and don't have specific government institutional inertia IMO
@theparaminuteman4 ай бұрын
@@ericj6636With you on the tourney paintball. I am also a middle of the pack tourney paintball player (D4) 😂
@Charlie52254 ай бұрын
@USpatriot741776 - Wow dude! You sound like a straight killer. It's crazy you were only OPFOR. You should have tried to go SF. I'm glad you taught those SF guys how hard it is to clear a room with a role player who knows exactly when they're about enter and has his muzzle pointed directly at the door. Sounds like super realistic training.
@ryanchristian96744 ай бұрын
This is by far the best channel in this tactical space. No theatrics, calm, cool, collected. Appreciate the history too.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@ryanchristian9674 Thank You
@flopus74 ай бұрын
I think someone from SF came down to my division and built our division cqb training. We got taught all the darc stuff you covered but clearly through a filter. We never made our fireteams bigger but we started doing high ready, hanging out in hallways, driving targets down, and started teaching the modern shooting stances and movement. The first time in the shoothouse during this course the opfor attacked us instead of the usual hiding and drove us out of the shoothouse. It was an absolute mess where we reassaulted with less than a fireteam. Just wanted to let you know that even big army finally started to learn and correct things
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
That is great to hear.
@Ittakesonelifetolearnhowtolive4 ай бұрын
Strong walling works really well. Was in a CAV unit in Baghdad in the surge. We did loads of CQB qnd when you're leading guys with a lower level of training or ability and you quickly realize how useful of a tactic it is. Clear from the door, clear the strong corners, and strong wall. Simple and worked well. And yes, hold the hall. We sorta figured that out the hard way. Thanks for this video. Great information.
@Jonathan-03314 ай бұрын
I was a Marine grunt in Fallujah in 2004 and Ramadi in 2005. I’ve spent 17 years in LE/Swat and man o man it’s crazy how CQB tactics have changed and been tweaked over the years. I look back at some things we did and laugh at how stupid some approved tactics were. A lot of blood has been spilled by patriots and the learning curve will be steep when the next fight begins. I pray we continue to evolve, innovate, and question to save lives but still effectively close with and destroy the enemy! Thanks for the breakdown. Thoroughly enjoyed the video
@ASqdrnDA4 ай бұрын
I don't know if it counts, but I had people in a discord server teach me "videogame CQB" inside games called Ground Branch or Ready Or Not, I know, sounds REALLY silly, but they were both federal swat and one of them was also former marine infantry, every advancement you mentioned in this video was taught to us and were even told how we could apply this to solving problems given to us, and we were adviced on how we solved it. Suffice to say, the lessons learned weren't lost on us, and by your criteria with how I saw it, it was an eye opener and they were fantastic instructors!
@komwom4 ай бұрын
Simulations are good for conceptual learning. Simulators + meatspace training is superior to meatspace alone
@ericj66364 ай бұрын
@ASqdrnDA were you in TF-195 or Glid Gaming servers or something more small and niche than that? I had a couple video game instructors who were pretty incredible too in Ready or Not. Have you tried Door Kickers 2 as well?
@ASqdrnDA4 ай бұрын
@@ericj6636 GLID, now disbanded Bison group.
@totenfurwotan44784 ай бұрын
This info is truly historical and needs to be preserved. Jeff is a GWOT GOAT.
@henrygonzalez3604 ай бұрын
Yes indeed.🇺🇸💪👍
@williamwasserbeck51554 ай бұрын
Never forget to think out of box as needed. 18E4VW8 retired 2002. Enjoyed seeing all the changes from when I went through CQB in the 90s. Keep up the good work.
@landenjones93744 ай бұрын
Gotta say i Love the longer form content.
@landenjones93744 ай бұрын
Appreciate the heart again
@griffin52264 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to hear your opinions on the use of vehicles for long range insertion. What armaments, tactics, and vehicle modifications you preferred.
@glidewell194 ай бұрын
You could go on for 3 hours and I would still listen to you. Thank you so much for taking the time to give us this info.
@Jason32Bourne4 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@Kq4hcuDan4 ай бұрын
Im not military but i cleared out a few buildings by myself working armed alarm response for residential and commerical buildings. The company i worked, for had a retired lapd guy who was also 75th. He got me interested in learning more all i could, so i watched KZbin videos on SF and mimicked techniques and applied them to me for my job i had. Its scary to clear out a building by yourself and since i didnt get back up i did alot of pieing and ducking with only a chinese flashlight knock off and a handgun, and i did lots of alarms in Compton and Watts area.
@VexillumTraining4 ай бұрын
6 months of Section 8 housing security taught me more about single man CQB than I learned in 5 years of infantry 😂
@Kq4hcuDan4 ай бұрын
I believe it @@VexillumTraining
@realMatchGrade4 ай бұрын
Got the chance to attend SFAUC at Fort Carson with 10th group and learned an absolute massive amount on technical experience. Starting the first week with classroom lessons, second week was basic and advanced marksmanship with rifle and pistol transitions, then weeks three and four were at the shoot house where we employed Hand-to-Hand, got to employ demo charges, quicky saws, and live fire under CQB multi-level environments. As one of the team leaders, I was charged with leading my 12-man team through the shoot house and out the other side. Overall, it was an extremely impressive learning experience that I treasure and still hold onto the knowledge.
@WesMerc4 ай бұрын
Can regular leg infantry get a slot in SFAUC?
@realMatchGrade4 ай бұрын
@@WesMerc It is possible, if the SFAUC instructors open the class up to RA. The class I attended had everyone from 11 series, 12 series, and 18 series.
@UrbanDefenseSystems4 ай бұрын
What I learned in the Muhreenes was that if we suspected a structure to have hadjis in it, we leveled it and or at least naded it to absolute hell. We only cleared buildings we thought were empty to begin with.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@UrbanDefenseSystems I was going to mention how we did things in Afghanistan which was shoot a carl gustav round at the building but left it out due to time.
@UrbanDefenseSystems4 ай бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting Love your content. Wasn't being argumentative, just contributing my experiences and what I've been taught. These videos are a wealth of knowledge.
@RJA23234 ай бұрын
The knowledge and information that you guys in Group sought out, procured, and practiced in the early GWOT was critical in eventually reforming and creating more lethal soldiers even down at the line unit level. We walk on the shoulders of giants!
@Poxyquotl4 ай бұрын
What you talk about at the 27:00 mark or so really speaks to the validity of full-spectrum stress testing of our doctrine in the most realistic environments we can OUTSIDE of combat. You came to the same conclusion and learned the same lessons some did in combat without putting anyone's lives at risk. As military professionals, we should always keep that growth mentality. Our goal needs to be to win the first battle of the next war by constantly examining our tactics, techniques, and procedures in light of the current OE. Great video!
@JKS844M4 ай бұрын
A great video once again from one treasure which won’t ever be replaced or renamed. Good job!
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@bdubs15434 ай бұрын
Been to DARC 3xs, always a huge learning experience
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@bdubs1543 Always
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz4 ай бұрын
5:00 An example that comes to mind, although not the correct organizational structure, is the 2015 Bamoko Hotel Attack in Mali. One of the first responders to that attack was a member of the SOFD-D attached to the US Embassy. Not exactly the same, but a US Special Operations member deployed somewhere that isn't an active warzone. If they're doing anything it's probably gonna be security and hostage rescue. Also according to him the French (who train the Mali forces and still control mali as a territory) have a funny mindset for hostage situations. They, unlike most people, still pack explosives and grenades. Basically, 'we don't bring grenades _to_ a hostage situation, we bring them _in case it stops being_ a hostage situation.'
@Radjasteindag4 ай бұрын
This is truly a reference video, with first-hand history. I hope many will follow on this same theme. 👍🏻
@90candelarioL4 ай бұрын
I love your videos! Video documentation is more modern than just print. You have a military Geography/Anthropology style. Very professional.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Mjdeben4 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir! And please dont shy away from longer videos. We love them
@MsPatriotfront15 күн бұрын
What a great piece of content here, Jeff. Nobody else on YT has done anything like this.
@Johnny_Cash_Flow4 ай бұрын
I swear, we have been ships passing in the night for decades! I was in Ramadi in 2004 working with 5th Group as a Marine. My CO, Capt. Paul Stubbs, knew some of the 5th Group soldiers from his time as a Ranger and pimped me out to assist them with Intel integration with the Marine Regiment there. Truly a small world.
@vv.wvwv14 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. We need excellent talents like you to continue to educate the next generation.
@JerryGarcianotthesinger4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jeff. I learned a lot. And thank you for your service to our nation.
@superfish00124 ай бұрын
Civilian here who messes around with airsoft with some friends, some of whom are vets and all of us love shooting. One is a big swinging combat vet. Minus him, I'd say we've all got the basics down (footwork, focus on winning the fight, speed and aggression, shoot the reds, don't shoot the greens). We built a little shoot house a while back and reorganize it every now and again. One day we're "running rabbit," where five of us are stacked up and one person is in the structure with a shoot-no shoot reversible target on a stick that we shoot or don't (then pause for him to move, of course) and then go into the next room and shoot or don't, etc. etc. Since we all wear eye protection all the time (following a desk pop that somehow bounced off at least two surfaces halfway across a 7500 square foot building and hit someone JUST below the eye) the rabbit decided to fight back. Five of us with rifles versus one guy who by himself reorganized the building with a pistol. We got absolutely rocked. Didn't expect resistance, didn't expect movement. Surprised and stressed and the only reason we "won" is because he ran out of ammo after popping 4 of the 5 of us. For all the safety guys, I'll mention that all six of us had mutually agreed that we'd just do this sometimes with no prior mention. We all knew it in theory, but that really helped us all realize that when you're the ones kicking a door, you are at a disadvantage no matter what. All the skills and gear you have are cards stacked in your favor, not some Five Card Exodia I Win button.
@sombra61534 ай бұрын
What might be an interesting project would be comparison of CQC training and tactics of the Son Tay Raiders compared to the progression of what we consider modern tactics that have “emerged” since the GWOT. There’s been a lot written on the Son Tay operation, but I’ve never seen anything specific on the training other than little bits and antidotes - more about the men and the formalized planning template for those types of special operations.
@LRRPFco524 ай бұрын
@@sombra6153 Larry Vickers wrote an article on that and how it became the rotary wing insertion template for Delta, with the original Unit leadership calling on Dick Meadows to come in and provide advisory work for them. It was really good.
@Trent_1Ай бұрын
One of the best vids explaining the why behind the way. Nice breakdown of how and why it changes as well.
@terrarecon4 ай бұрын
I love this stuff from all units and military branches. Hearing how things developed in the Army SF, Rangers, and Delta is good.
@heatherburger16664 ай бұрын
I learned a lot and you strengthened my thoughts on tactics. Thank you and this was worth my time to watch.
@3lcoyo3603 ай бұрын
God bless you Jeff 2 a.m. sipping my coffee getting more knowledge under my belt thanks for all of the knowledge you impart
@innawoods21314 ай бұрын
The opfor bit is real as fuck. Nobody wants to hear their buddy getting aired out and do nothing, or just wait for death from numerically superior ops. "Fuck it, be a legend" type energy
@douglascampbell70413 ай бұрын
Super interesting, my team runs angular clearing which was built on the backs of the lessons learned by these guys! Thank you!
@SamplesTB4 ай бұрын
Most underrated channel on the tube. Love the history and lessons combined. Great gun/equipment breakdowns too.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@SamplesTB I need to start a campaign to convince people to share and subscribe.
@MrNiceKnife4 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for taking the time. Godspeed to our warfighters.
@CombatArtTraining4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this video and I hope you make many more like it on different tactics.
@vijonbe4 ай бұрын
Very interesting and very well done. Nowdays Tier1 SFAUC has changed even more. I appreciate your practical approach, as an instructor I have the same problems you had, my unit still sticking with old techniques despite demonstrating their flaws...
@ryanthede46894 ай бұрын
Given the limited amount of time I was trained on CQB/MOUT in the Marine Corps and the limited amount of resources we had, it was really surprising to me to see how rigid you guys were on which methods you were expected to use. Our lead man was always given leeway on which corner they wanted to take and whether or not they wanted to buttonhook or cross. It was always taught that situation dictates
@michaelgreen75114 ай бұрын
Great stuff brother! Jack N. is an awesome dude and excellent assaulter. He was ALWAYS thinking outside the box. You brought back some great memories by mentioning him. DOL brother!!!
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@michaelgreen7511 yes I could not do this topic without mentioning him.
@quinnfell38244 ай бұрын
These long format videos are fantastic! Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
@M2fiftycal4 ай бұрын
Awesome info as usual. I guess we were in Iraq at a bunch of the same times (I did 04-05, 06-08, 09-10, and 11, then Kuwait for 12). I was just an armor guy, not anything high speed like SF or anything. It's amazing to see how you guys were adapting on the high end, while stuff was slowly trickling down to the rest of us normal guys out in the force. The changes in mindset, weapons and gear setup, and tactics across the entire Army between 03 and 2010 was a huge shift. Thanks again for the insight into how the other side does it!
@JohnWalker-e6y4 ай бұрын
Jeff, you stated you were there when the 5th Grp CIF started. I was in 7th Group, one of the Warrant Officers from my Company went to help form you up and was on that initial entry package in A-Stan. He came back to 7th and was interesting to talk to about the effectiveness of 5.56. His story was how many rounds he put into a guy at CQB ranges before he finally went down. Very good stuff. I was SFARTAEC trained in 2007, I went thru with those newer techniques, clearing as much from the outside of the room, barrel dips, driving threat down, high ready, etc. We were told in the course that high ready had always been the proper technique but when the Leaders wanted to observe training, in the past, they would walk on the catwalks and freaked out that guns were pointed at THEM. No more high ready, for many many years (probably until 2007). The mannequin targets with the balloons had to be shot until the went down (body and head shots required)
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@user-xp8tb3qq7z if you went through SFARTAETC in 2007, I was there.
@JohnWalker-e6y4 ай бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting I’m sure you were. it was a whirlwind course and I suffer from CRS. I think I went through in early spring. Maybe march. Great course, thanks for your input and instruction.
@Jason32Bourne4 ай бұрын
What did the Warrant Officer say to you about the effectiveness of 5.56? What round of 5.56 would have been used in his experience? 855 or mk262 or something else?
@JohnWalker-e6y4 ай бұрын
@@Jason32Bourne really more of the ineffectiveness of the green tip at close range. he had to put about 10 rounds, point blank, into the guy as he got up out of his bunk to get to his weapon. It really is a crap shoot as to effectiveness, though, if you don’t get CNS effects. I’ve seen guys drop from 1 shot of 9mm and known people that survived outrageous amounts of wounds. This is not really the forum to explain terminal ballistics and wound effects. I’m not gonna type that much in a comment section.
@henrygonzalez3604 ай бұрын
Jeff, props for standing up for your guys and finding funding for them. Much respect.🇺🇸💪🇺🇸
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@henrygonzalez360 Not just me all good Team Sergeants would do the same..
@djy0tub3r3 ай бұрын
Great video. I'd love to hear your thoughts on two topics: 1. 300 blackout round 2. LVAW Thanks!
@0_1_24 ай бұрын
Fascinating insight. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and the videos! Would like to see more long format videos like this.
@TheCCBoi4 ай бұрын
I love this behind the scenes history someone who has been in a while can bring. Amazing work.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@TheCCBoi Thanks
@colp94924 ай бұрын
Agree with your comments on the use of strong walling, I like that drill for reasons you state and also once entry has been made and commander can make a decision on what next depending on room layout etc. love what you say about about holding the hall way.
@KennethBarriger3 ай бұрын
Great video Jeff of the history and tactics. The problem is that someone thinks their kung fu is better than someone else and they revert back to antiquated tactics or do not want to modify or change what they have learned. Great comments pointing out the training scars you observed from past training. Jack Nevils was a legendary SFARTAETC guy. Glad I got to know him. The experience you gained by being in different Groups, ODAs, Range 37 and vendor training is priceless.
@sandozman60853 ай бұрын
This is excellent information, and great no nonsense delivery…. Thank you Sir
@pyeitme5084 ай бұрын
Awesome CQB/CQC vid sir as time changes a lot to adapt against future threats.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Yes they do
@pyeitme5084 ай бұрын
Yep!
@ericaddis74144 ай бұрын
I took my first CQB class outside Ft. Bragg in 1994 from ex-Delta operators at a private range. It was a lot slower back then. We used 2x4 to simulate walls when learning the 4 man clear. I could go on and on. Bottom line. CQB started at Range 37 on Ft Bragg.
@nottonyhawk1234 ай бұрын
Loving the content. The information you push out to us always encourages me to keep thinking about how to train my guys.
@kevinlandry50574 ай бұрын
I’m getting closer and closer to becoming an operator with each one of your videos. Also, the watch game is unmatched 👀⌚️
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Watches!!!!
@RileygoodVideos4 ай бұрын
Every video that shows up in my feed is a dose of happiness. Love the work Jeff, keep it up
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@RileygoodVideos will do!
@chrisreed46614 ай бұрын
Wow great video ! I got an opportunity to do a partner force style training with 3rd group, was an excellent training opportunity. We did some CQB stuff along with a bunch of flat range drills, than went up to AP Hill and did a bunch of urban style training with them. Have a lot of respect for them, knowledgeable guys with loads of experience
@FischerDefenseGroup4 ай бұрын
The most underrated channel on the interwebs. Thanks Jeff 🤟🏼
@blainelashley21204 ай бұрын
incredible that you have so much footage and pictures, Great video!
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
I wish I had taken 10,000 more pics and video during my time.
@berryreading48094 ай бұрын
Awesome video as usual Jeff, info packed with years of knowledge yet not a minute of viewer time wasted!👍I think the only other videos I look forward too as much as Jeff's videos, especially in this "history of" format are from the "Valgear" channel, videos doing random reviews/demonstrations of often rare Eastern Bloc equipment in addition/comparison to a wide variety of different NATO equipment and his opinions/demonstrations on their use/effectiveness based on experience fighting with various Ukrainian SF units/training regular units since just after 2014... I hope Jeff has found that hidden gem along with everyone else... I'm pretty sure he may have videos about items that even US Army SF partner force or enemy/foriegn weapon courses may not have, or atleast may not have live range video demonstrations of (well atleast until recently, but his videos are publicly available 😉). "Fun fact" some of his teams have bought various different models of NVGs left in Afghanistan through the black market... Which is that many less sets of sensitive force multiplying items that will end up being used by various middle eastern based countries or Islamic terrorist groups across the globe. 😠 (He even has or had a video reviewing some captured current Russian production KA-52 helicopter pilot specific dual tubes with custom battery packs, as the originals run off of the helicopters electrical system) He has deleted some videos, but all the available and new videos are quite interesting, whether it's historic/rare/modern equipment demos you may want to learn about, his videos are a great resource... Thanks again Jeff! 👍
@AlexLee-dc2vb4 ай бұрын
another absolutely incredible video. It's so cool that you have so much material from your service.
@lnternetExpIorer4 ай бұрын
Great video! Kinda sucks that they would counsel a soldier and like you said, it would make them gun shy. On one hand, yes I understand, you would probably hold that counseling in your head like “I better get this right” but on the other hand, it’s better to get it wrong in training then to get it wrong in theater. Just let the guys do their best then critique them afterwards without any penalty. But other than that, great video. It’s awesome to see the evolution of CQB
@DoWork3164 ай бұрын
Good video on the why. Range 37 is ever changing in new ways. DoWork 🇺🇸
@jodylivengood40614 ай бұрын
Good stuff as always Jeff. Im a single undividual on a narrow mission when it comes to a gunfight. That mission is avoiding trouble and adequate training with a gun to put the odds in my favor of putting an overly ambitious criminal in their place if the trouble is more interested in me than i get to call the shots on. But like many who are self defense minded I love this stuff. Guns are cooler than fire extinguishers and thats just a fact. Always a treat to see the pros in action.
@firestorm84714 ай бұрын
Videos such as this are excellent data for designing defenses against this type of combat action. Thanks
@PXX-t1j4 ай бұрын
That was really interesting! I could listen to this easily for 3 hours! You got a new subscriber 👍
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@PXX-t1j Awesome
@mattsrandomsheet27444 ай бұрын
You never disappoint
@camsnyder26364 ай бұрын
So in 2022 my unit was taught the “masking” technique with the five man stack. Made us get killed a lot less in force on force. Prior to that it was the standard four man.
@camsnyder26364 ай бұрын
We were taught that by a Swat team in Kansas
@totenfurwotan44784 ай бұрын
Where did he talk about the masking technique ?
@camsnyder26364 ай бұрын
@@totenfurwotan447818:48 there’s also a demonstration soon after.
@camsnyder26364 ай бұрын
@@totenfurwotan447818:50 has the demonstration. It’s exactly how we were taught.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@camsnyder2636 that's awesome to hear you are doing masking!
@AngeLa-du3gw4 ай бұрын
Great video and informative love hearing about the old days of gwot
@soulknight894 ай бұрын
Its wild that when i trained for basic cqb in 2017 before going to Afghanistan. They were teaching us, 1 and 2 clear corner, 3 and 4 engage middle. My brother, Marine, said, number 1 should always engage whatever threat they see before corner, if they can't clear corner, number 2 and 3 better move fast and adapt to the situation. I questioned the trainers and they were like, welps, this is in the army handbook and thats what we are teaching you. 😅 Edit: i was chair force air trans...
@huntsman12able4 ай бұрын
I'm a bit late to the game but I was in the 101st form 2006-2010 (11B) and I remember the whole changing training cycle for CQB in this video. In 2006 and for a little of 2007 we trained the manual 4 man stack and clearing corners but about 6 months before we went to Iraq our OX when and trained with SF. When he got back we retrained to do the step out method and engage immediate threats. We did that all through our 07-08 deployment but met very little resistance in CBQ. When we got back we started gearing up to go to Afghanistan and initially trained with the new methods but about 6 months before we went word came down the we were going back to the old method and any stepping out or new method would not be tolerated. Still tried to teach the new guys the new method and was reprimanded for it. Extremely frustrating
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
I bet, I hate seeing lessons lost
@a383374 ай бұрын
Jeff - this is fantastic information. Huge thanks.
@phil738054 ай бұрын
A masterful, info dense video. Worth a subscribe on the strength of this alone.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@phil73805 By all means spread the word
@MrMrmoore20133 ай бұрын
Thank you for the thorough informative video.
@Chevydude19824 ай бұрын
make ur vids as long as u want brotha. i love every second of it.
@Pompomgrenade4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍🏾 your tuition is in public transit and 🇺🇸 appreciated
@unclefreedom2134 ай бұрын
I also wonder how long the CQB schoolhouse stays the same I think back to the schools that changed or just don't exist. Sotic, LRSLC, PLDC
@timothycummins27004 ай бұрын
Extremely informative video.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@Fox-864 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Very interesting and informative. I went through the "classic" method at the time and I also questioned it. Ignoring threats just because you have to clear the corner is just absurd. Luckily I never had to do it IRL
@3xworldtour3964 ай бұрын
He was always a wealth of knowledge when I was around him in 3rd GRP
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@3xworldtour396 3X world Tour, stickers everywhere around the world!
@NamedMyTaco4 ай бұрын
I love these kinds of videos
@richardturner62784 ай бұрын
Biggest lesson of all that hopefully the military has learned is that tactics must evolve constantly. Any serious threat will easily adapt to any known or learned tactics so they must have the ability and authority to change on the spot. Decision making ability when the bullets start flying is a trait that not all soldiers have. Basically it's common sense under fire and it's getting harder and harder all the time to find anyone with any common sense. I've always regarded Green Berets as the go to units specifically because they are smarter soldiers as a whole than any other special unit. Very "intelligent " badasses.
@CromoXtheConqueror4 ай бұрын
Love seeing the evolution of the tactics Here in Europe with more limited access to the real deal for civilians, using Airsoft has been a great way to figure out those team movements in CQB Being under constant treat from moving opfor is a great way to train - classic method just doesn't work Thanks for the history lesson!
@ianray88234 ай бұрын
Every video uploaded is a lesson learned
@Gorkabandit12 күн бұрын
Did opfor at DARC a few times, awesome place
@Tordek_19894 ай бұрын
Loved the video, Jeff! CQB is such an interesting topic! Feel free to do any videos on CQB you might want, if there is anything else you wanna say. Also : thats a very pretty Geissele rifle you got, you are a lucky man!
@seijiroukikuoka59754 ай бұрын
Welcome back
@bjorn79264 ай бұрын
Do you think we could maybe get a series on the CIF/CRF/CTAC units? And their contribution to the GWOT?
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
I did not serve in them so probably not
@henrygonzalez3604 ай бұрын
It's actually pretty hard getting any real info on that unit. The little I know is from podcast interviews from former CIF guys. Kevin Owens and Mike Glover were on a CIF team together during the Joint Taskforce days in Iraq.🇺🇸💪
@pizza79754 ай бұрын
Did 1st SFOD-D helped SF modernize CQB during your time and allow SF to use their training facilities?
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@@pizza7975 Nope
@LRRPFco524 ай бұрын
The biggest influence from The Unit into SF is when senior guys punch out to do their 1SG and SGM within SF, then go back to The Unit or retire. Also when some of those guys went to RNG37.
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
@LRRPFco52 Delta guys going to SF for 1SG or SGM I did not see much of that at all my entire career. For awhile they were Delta instructors at RG37, but even that slowed down.
@LRRPFco524 ай бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting Maybe I should have said "sporadic" instead of "biggest". My buddy's Team Sergeant in 10th Group came from CAG. Kyle Lamb went to 1st Group for a bit to do some leadership time before going back as a Troop SGM. 3rd Group's newly-forming CIF did a CQM range for us in 2002 at Bragg, and one of the guys had just come from The Unit. He could center-punch foreheads on B27s from the holster on-demand with an M9 at 25m repeatedly after one of the senior guys on the Team didn't think he could do it again.
@sethhlewis4 ай бұрын
Interesting. We got A LOT of callout training at pre deployment JRTC in 2008, and it was reiterated in training in Kuwait before pushing north. 82nd Airborne. Rare instance of a big army tactic making its way up the food chain?
@ModernTacticalShooting4 ай бұрын
Perhaps?
@sethhlewis4 ай бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting who even knows with the army. Watched Generation Kill again recently. I just identified with the trying to survive command's decisions.
@John-ro3vu4 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, thanks for the video 😊
@richardwolf7984 ай бұрын
Great video. Did a lot of cqb with MP5sds in the 80s. There's nothing worse than a dry hole. lol
@BotLoudАй бұрын
I'm just a fat gamer dork that doesn't know shit, but some of the older tactics, imo seemed shocking given how rigid the strategies were. Laugh all you want, but gaming has taught me that numbers, speed, and space control are king. Great video!
@MMMM-mu8ky4 ай бұрын
The last five minutes are the most important, the rest as we now in real fights it is theatricals.
@ZMikluscak4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Glad to hear how CQB evolved from the horse's mouth.
@ranchhandrandy32134 ай бұрын
Had the good fortune to go through the DARC advanced urban assault course in 2012. Had the extraordinary fortune to be there at the same time as one of the first classes of the Asymmetric Warfare Group which was cool by itself..but the best thing was that all the AWG instructor cadre(Independent from Rich and the DARC instructor cadre)were CAG guys and for a young Lance Corporal, that was like meeting the entire Justice League. Also, did yall find the cheese 😁?