A conversation with Ivan Balabanov and Michael Ellis

[@masarhap9189]

Why would people miss this podcast? This is the pinnacle of dog training

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

sadly most dog owners don't know that dog training exists!

[@t0l4nd]

Ivan! Please make “A conversation with Michael” an ongoing series for your podcasts. 🙏🙏🙏 this is the pinnacle or shall we say the deepest levels of the Rabbit Hole 😎

[@rolandor.moreno7498]

Great to see these two pros just sit and chat . Answer questions from viewers. Such history. First time we have seen Ivan relaxed and laughing so comfortably with a peer. Let's have another round ,gentlemen. Thank you.!

[@IvanBalabanov]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lukeryuzaki2328]

Wow. Great treat for us viewers when these two great trainers having another chat again.

[@kulan9379]

Would not matter how long the video would be, i would listen to the entire thing still regardless 😁 these videos are gold! 😁

[@baylamakarov8701]

Real dog people that are so gifted thank you guys so much for sharing your nuggets of golden wisdom on free platforms so that it’s accessible to everyone

[@D0B3RW0M4N]

Oh I’m saving this for my day off, very excited

[@katl5683]

Thank you both and host! (two of my fave trainers)Very awesome chat!

[@Knight_K9]

This right here is the podcast you watch 3 or 4 times. Two great minds, what sets these guys apart….the way they think the way they understand dogs thank you for sharing all this knowledge and insight ❤

[@sharonwhyte2651]

❤ loved this 🙏 could listen all day

[@Sno3yXsniper]

Always a must watch/listen thanks!!

[@tuffy2242]

Awesome What a privilege to listen to these two dog people at the top of their field.

[@JacquelineO]

My Gandhi in dog behavior, Michael Ellis, just gets better and better. Feel privileged to have interacted and learned in person at his training facility in Fairfield. Thank you for being out there for responsible dog owners. 🙏🙏🙏

[@TheMelo1993]

Never thought there would be a second round so soon!!! Awesome

[@TigerlilyMal]

Excellent discussion! Thank you for giving your time!

[@gmanley502]

Such a powerful podcast. I beg you to please keep doing these podcasts so aspiring dog trainers have a high-quality, ehical source of material to access in order to hone their craft.

[@lauravanmeinders2090]

You two are both brilliant and I just loved see and listening to you together. Thank you!

[@fannyw7203]

Amaaazinggg! Thank you

[@Armorakc]

Excellent talk 100% agree with the medication approach you guys have for dogs. Natural healthy mind is the way to go. Respect to your contributions to the dog training and dogs’ welfare particularly for the REAL dogs……

[@jacksonandersen3085]

Just started this up, last one was great.

[@Ryansk9companion]

There was so much information in this! Amazing and thank you tons!

[@tbart75]

Good stuff Mike/Ivan. Miss you guys!

[@EDog]

This was one of the best podcasts I have seen. Such great insight and information. Thank you 🙏🏻 keep this type of content coming!

[@lindsay9678-l8l]

Loved this thanks guy's!

[@jimmybravo777]

2 Legends of dog training......

[@reflexdogtraining1337]

How'd I miss this (and your seminars in Harvard, MA)? OH YES; working and the birth of my son. 😊 love this Ivan! Keep up the great work!

[@movechangeheal7361]

Look up Hyperkenesis, this is actual dog ADHD. It can be diagnosed; it is apparently super rare. In other words, most of the time there is much hope that the dog can indeed be trained.

[@SamAlderdice]

So awesome!

[@Madeleine-z9x]

Great chat!!!! Thanks to all...;-)

[@vickyadams8509]

Love this! Need lots more of this in depth content.

[@thankmelater1254]

I need to watch this 10 times.

[@criktun3346]

Haha Cameron Ford as the “Host” amazing, he is an amazing trainer

[@mgsweeney99]

Two, and the one in the background, the BEST!!

[@bingsballyhoo711]

The "leash seminar" sounds really interesting. I hope you guys really do that.

[@justinabercrombie4852]

one of my favorite videos ive watched. great job do it again!

[@CharlieTheCaneCorso]

For me Ivan, Michael Ellis and bart bellon are the top of the mountain I'd love to see bart bellon sit down with these 2 legends, barts style is much more cold then Ivan and Michael but very effective and the nepopo has become a bit of a cult it's self

[@Armorakc]

Nice room, very eye catching, nicely decorated. :)

[@tuffy2242]

Regarding the personal vs impersonal consequences and the notion that dogs would “dislike” an owner or handler because they set a limit or gave a correction: Let’s not forget that dogs and packs are naturally/genetically built to give, and to take consequences - whether negative or positive - as communication in order to keep order and clarity in the lives of the dogs in the pack. Or the mother dog disciplining her puppies as they become boisterous 7 week old pups. Corrections are not taken personally at all, and they are not dealt out with hate or vehemence. It’s just to make a point. They can be best friends the next minute. Let’s also not forget how in school, we loved the professor or parent who was able to teach us in a great way, but also set limits/give negative consequences with clarity and finality (but without vehemence or guilt). We didn’t dislike the prof or parent; we understood and just tried harder to get it right next time, and respected the prof more. 👍

[@nickyp2820]

So true about genetics and play! My greyhound puppy loves to hide in the bushes, stalk the toy and then come flying out to pounce on it! He tugs up close too but he doesn't get as excited if he doesn't get to chase it.

[@HUNT-DOG]

Loved the Scent work conversation.

[@jenniferhirschfieldsdrt9275]

I am once again late to this, but I get the barking (less so the whining) with an activity. My malinois does this with the start of a bikejor, but this is seeming to be over the top excitement. Rather that focus on the bark I just ensured she is aware that she has to wait until I am ready to go as well ("hike" in her case). When she didn't wait she had to come back for me with my bike in tow. I think it is the opportunity for the full out run that builds the excitement. I am not sure if this was the right move with her, but I am fortunate to have a very patient dog.

[@annemariecullen3650]

There's such a strong message in the last 10 minutes. But if you only watch the last 10, you missed the message.

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Can the owner do it? That's the key. How much instruction did you provide for the owner, after you trained the dog? Or is the dog right back to where they were or worse after you left?

[@MangMan101]

Wooow 😊.

[@KS-yv7tw]

Excellent conversation! I have a question. Do you think a dog can ever know they HAVE to do something or do you think they do the thing purely because they have a history of repetition in the behaviour that works for them so they are motivated to do that and not something else. Whether it has been reinforced with punishment - they do it because the alternative is not so nice - or they do it because they really want to. I prefer to train my dog to really want to do the thing. Having said that, I have recalled my dog where she thinks of coming near but not close enough, but comes if I use a more assertive serious voice (NOT angry).

[@Smitch2909]

Interesting and grateful as always for your time. Comment/question on the blue belt bit (around 2:10:00) I started with a blue belt trainer and now have a black belt trainer who is, like you say, busy and therefore conducts, quite rightly a respectable fee and I see him once a month but I think the blue belt trainers have their place. Usually more blue belt trainers available, more local, you can train more, you can learn from your own critical reflection on how you partook in the session even if that particular trainer isn't a full 100% match to your objectives- still better than rolling around with another white belt? thoughts? I actually still train with my blue belt trainer- I get a lot out of training together. Thank you both!

[@IvanBalabanov]

Perhaps you missed the whole point of the analogy, which is that a blue belt who is *pretending they know as much as higher belts are *extremely dangerous for the future of a student who has high goals.

[@Smitch2909]

@@IvanBalabanov Thank you- yes perhaps I did miss your meaning. Thank you for the clarification.

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

I think the food question was more about ditching the bowl (i.e. Using their meals to only do training) versus allowing them to eat out of the dish. Maybe not. Kind of hard to believe purposefully not feeding them.

[@guiltybyassociation1764]

two of the best trainers alive...bother wearing Crocs🤔🤔🤔 **rushes out to immediately buy a pair of Crocs

[@CharlieTheCaneCorso]

I'm Training for free for the love of the art and to gain experience something for nothing makes everyone happy,

[@zsahe21]

What? Two icons of dog training

[@JacquelineO]

Ivan, step away from the wine, lol 😆

[@TropicalJungleIreland]

👍

[@derrikelacross4422]

The adhd question is awesome. I have have a hypothesis that Dog trainers probably all have adhd/ on the spectrum. Id say the same about dogs themselves. What spectrum are they on? trainers focus on the details most humans neglect but are important to the animals. trying to resonate with the animal on the frequency they are producing. which is different than having a screw loose or mental disorder. the process of diagnosis and treatment is horrible with humans. its better we don't associate those words with dogs in my opinion.

[@quinncolby]

Michael watched me for 10 minutes as I crashed and burned at the last MRI trial😂😂😂😂 he did say we are entertaining

[@spiderjoes]

I would like to hear both of your opinion on the ability of the dog to subdue a person. This seems to be lacking in IGP. A small female malinois might not be able to subdue a 120kg man in real life. There is even videos online of a small police malinois and the guy puts it in a headlock. There should be some type of test which values the strength of the dog to hold/take down a fully resisting person in a suit. This would also open up the playing field for larger breeds.

[@charlesbroussard9883]

?😊❤❤😊❤😊😊😊

[@stephaniedonlan6749]

Re: selective breeding. Consider that the “average” horse could not compete in the Kentucky Derby.

[@pv2443]

Thank fucking god

[@zsahe21]

10:58 isn't this just part of negative reinforcement?

[@thankmelater1254]

But if you only feed for work, you feed the same amount as usual, it's just that it is pieced out. Starve only one day so it works right away. Then straight back to 4 cups of food or whatever the dog would require for the day. NO difference in food intake, it's just spread out during the training for whatever reason the owner needs a behavior modification from the dog. Then the dog can also play better once he finds out that he is getting MORE freedom - for example, to be able to run free in the woods simply because he can be trusted to come back when called.

[@rehabilitatingbuzzy3281]

Fantastic guests but the questions are absolutely stupid. Nonsense questions. Why didn't you just let them converse?

[@FordK9]

They chose the questions from their Social media feeds. I did as they requested and recorded the event and read the questions they picked.

[@matilha01]

01:00 MAGIC!!!!" Do I keep looking him in the eyes or Do I get prepared to catch the ball"? 👁️🥎?