A day on the trails - CF Moto 450MT with CCM MT230s

[@planefrog]

Very impressive. This video really highlights the reality of riding over difficult terrain and how impractical most so called off road bikes are for the average rider. Really eye opening. As far as I can see the main problem with the 450MT is it takes forever to get one.

[@24567442]

Great coaching Nathan giving the boys and girls all the encouragement they need

[@ScoOutDoors]

Loves these videos and the way you looking at riding and explaining the bikes and riding skills I am 50 years young and been riding bikes since I was 9 years old, it’s all about the journey, every bike made can take you on an adventure , keep the brilliant content coming all the best from 💪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍

[@nathanthepostman]

Thanks Sco

[@iainrutherford184]

Great stuff, Nathan. Chalk and cheese in terms of the bikes on the trail, and your recent coverage from the trip to Spain, but I loved this 15 minutes. You make so many valid points about the rider, bike, terrain etc etc. A reference for people to reflect on and learn from! Loved it!

[@nathanthepostman]

Cheers Ian

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

When you see the others lads struggling on the smaller, lighter, bikes it makes you realise just how capable that 450MT is. I know you knew the best line but that was still very impressive the way it just ate up that climb without missing a beat. Looks like a lot of fun and laughter had by all when falling off all over the place!😂

[@stevec-b6214]

it sees beginners just don`t want to stand up and look ahead. It comes with practise, like most things. Great encouragement skills Nathan!

[@notkaty]

This channel has me wanting a 450MT every time

[@TheSar]

Superb. I've had my 450MT out here in Australia since May and absolutely love it. Sold my 1050XT and much prefer the little bike

[@biker_dale]

You're a good patient teacher, great to watch and good to hear about the CFMoto, definitely one I'll look at in a year, just enjoying the old Himalayan for a while.

[@BobsBikingAdventures]

That was great fun to watch. The CFMoto certainly is a great machine.

[@volt8684]

Love your books and your vlogs so honest

[@twistandgo3414]

Ah I recognise that trail, you came down there on the 400X. Not sure how it would fair up there with the Karoo streets, but it would certainly make it with a more 50:50 tyre. As you mentioned, a lot to be said for smaller and lighter bikes that are manageable and easier to ride than something heavier, such as Africa twin, 1300GS, 790 etc. Cracking little vid showing the trade off between balance, speed and grip. 👌🏼

[@seanbenson2427]

Wow Nathan. Snapper lane is a blast from the past. Used to live in goodleigh so have done that trail many times. Snapper woods off Collard Bridge was an old hunting ground too. Great fun and very very silly at times too :) - oh btw deposit placed on the 450MT but I'd still like to take a look at yours sometime.

[@kenwarren5129]

05:27 “the smoothness of a single”. I always thought a single was more ‘thumpy’ compared to multi cylinder engines, and that led to vibration? (Which was the reason I decided against the Himalayan 411 sadly)

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah can understand why that could be a confusing comment. Maybe smoothness is the wrong word. Connectivity and feel maybe I should have said. A single like the Himi 411 is brilliant for feeling your way up tricky terrain. Almost as though you can feel every pulse of the engine through the throttle and back wheel. Makes it very easy to meter the power. I would say typically a twin is a bit less feelsome. Smooth, you're right, but not sensory control you typically get with a single. The CF Moto has that connectivity, and the throttle that gets a lot of ctiticism is perfectly gauged when on just above tickover, clutch out climbing. I think it helps having the cable operated throttle. Compare it to the ride by wire on the new 450 Himilayan and for me you get much more feel from the CF, the type you'd typically get from a single I guess. So perhaps the defining factor and what I probably should have described is the throttle action/response, which on the CF Moto is beautiful.

[@DonHenderson]

Loved that Nathan thanks, learned a lot from that video about how to use the slow speed and balance as an advantage on the trail (like watching a trials rider) My scram is ideal for its tractor like power delivery letting me remain in control of the bike. Just need to manage to stop the front end washing out on mud and adverse cambres (fear of it, more than it actually happening). love the Videos keep it going my friend. Don

[@EngtecTrials]

I remember an 450EXC owner look at me on my Honda TLR200 and said that bike is too small for you. Few weeks later he had a Serrow.!!

[@leslieaustin151]

Serow, such a lovely bike, gentle, light, easy. I love mine. Les

[@stewtube1240]

Man ! Your in shape !!!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

9:41 😆🤣🤣 - BUT - Typical Nathan,, keeping it real - which is why we love you and your work Mr M

[@CosmicSeeker69]

in fact this vid has prompted me to start a Nathan file on here - there's so much understanding in this vid (which I need starting riding at 69).. 2:40 Look ahead - NOT at where you are...✅

[@gaplife3611]

Would like to hear your thoughts on the new GS 450 that’s coming out next year. I know the full specs haven’t been announced yet. But does look like a great bike in the press release.

[@semuuuu]

im also curious on that one, however it seems like 125 degree crankshaft twin sounds shit, I hope it feels better while riding

[@richardshilling2958]

Another great video showing the real trail riding in the UK. Gnarly and tricky. Just needed thebodd gate to make it perfect. Nothing like the manufacturer's promo videos. Loving the cf moto doing its stuff. Will you be getting the new Susuki DR in your fleet?

[@nathanthepostman]

Spoilt for choice next year aren't we! DR, KTM and loads of other bikes coming through. Not sure I can afford to keep the fleet fresh to be honest!

[@richardshilling2958]

Yep I'm looking forward to seeing then all. Aprillia 457 looks interesting as well.

[@nockianlifter661]

That was an interesting comparison between the CF Moto and the KTM. Glad I put a deposit down on one.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah, it was interesting to watch. Without momentum it really struggled for traction. Maybe tyres, pressures, talent etc, but it's definitely not a bike for the uncommitted or unskilled. A nice CRF250/300 would evidently be the easier bike to ride in those conditions for most people. But there does seem to be a trend in trail riding circles to push everyone onto enduro bikes, which I think personally is misdirected, as evidenced here. He was a better rider than the guys on the CCMs, but (the bike) made it look three times harder.

[@nockianlifter661]

@ After I did a day-121 -at Sweet Lamb, I found that a heavier, longer bike was easier to ride - 790 was actually better for me than a CRF250. These lighter, shorter and snappier enduro bikes seem to suit experienced faster riders, but not the average green lane rider. Of course the heavier bike is much worse if it’s dropped, which is what makes those competition bikes attractive to a novice.

[@davidmatthews3093]

That looked fun. I was confused by your smoothness of a single comment. I would expect anything other than a 360° twin to be much smoother than any single.

[@leslieaustin151]

How many times did I drive past that trail-start in my 15 years in BrFl? Didn’t have a bike then, but I should have walked it at least. Ah well. Looking at this film and wondering if my Innova would manage that climb.. it’s got the advantages of light weight and ‘dropability’, but very low in power - and no manual clutch-control.. Oh well, academic anyway. Great stuff as always Nathan. Still learning here! Les

[@CosmicSeeker69]

unless you're standing it's sort of possible to slip the clutch - not sure how possible that would be off road though - I only using for coasting on hills

[@leslieaustin151]

@ yes, but only “sort of”, it’s not really practical, and anyway, I want to be standing. Seriously thinking of getting a manual clutch conversion.

[@jamesmclaughlin2204]

I've one ordered from August for February delivery 😬 I've got a few bikes around me, including an xl600r+ a GSA! This 450mt is ticking the boxes for me!

[@JIMWSMITH]

Another great video .

[@nathanthepostman]

Thanks Jim

[@williamspence1246]

Do you go out on these group rides often? Im south Devon but would love to come on one if possible?

[@dontlike7399]

Great video, loved to watch. I'd be interested to know if and how you managed the problem of water collecting in the crash-bars. Also are your books back available?

[@nathanthepostman]

I haven't done anything about the water ingress yet. I have had a recall notice but an easy job to do with a drill at home. Unfortunately my books are out of stock at the minute. Must get them reprinted

[@dontlike7399]

@@nathanthepostman Please do. My money needs somewhere to go.

[@clarkjordan4519]

Hope U compare the old kle 500 to the mt 450 soon . I fancy a kle

[@Banditman369]

Would love to hear your thoughts on new DRZ 400 and whether you will get one 👍

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes looks interesting. Could do well, especially as Honda don't seem to have done anything with the CRF platform

[@jhoncho4x4]

Might get a bigger rear sprocket if you're doing a lot of trail riding; I put the CT dual sprocket wheel on my 64 Cub 125 rebuild. Bolted in place; can't use the chain enclosure when the chain is on the large sprocket.

[@manox68]

450MT💪

[@rwriddell]

Put my money down this week after a test rid at North West Powersport Skelmersdale. Delivery Feb.

[@howardmann5634]

Have you done any thing to the throttle mine is a bit twitchy at low speed

[@notsorare]

Apparently there is a fix available (on the app?)

[@nathanthepostman]

If you're outside of Europe you should be able to download the new map. I believe it'll be available in Europe soon. I've got used to the throttle now. Gives it a bit of 'character'

[@howardmann5634]

@@notsorare been looking for a bike like the mt for 8 years had bmw f650 gs and a himmy 411 but the mt is just out of this world it does everything I want from it will ask about the throttle when it goes in for first service top job carry on

[@soggybawsmoto]

Track looks worse with the leaves too. Funny how the conditions affect the rideability of the trails. Question for you as a content creator. With a little imsonia, I noticed you put this out around midweek, midnight. Do you believe that there is an optimum day of the week/time to publish, or do you just bang them out when they are ready and let them do their own thing?

[@nathanthepostman]

I meant to schedule it for 8am but must have stuffed up. I tend to just bung stuff up without a great deal of thought

[@CosmicSeeker69]

search YT and the net - and you'll get at least five different answer, although from memory most sighted Friday around 4pm as a win. DYODD!

[@kenwarren5129]

What’s happening with the Dorothy speed shop website?

[@nathanthepostman]

Down due to some spam infrigement and WIX are a nightmare to deal with to resolve. Hopefully back up soon

[@breathewithelissa]

Just put a deposit down on one 😍

[@garrywhippe7140]

great vid mate! perhaps sort a mt450 day in the new year( when i hopefully have mine!!!).be great to see ya 👍

[@nathanthepostman]

defo. Be good to get a gang down this way or up at Salisbury maybe

[@garrywhippe7140]

@@nathanthepostman i'm buying bits for it like a child with there parents credit card🤣. make a full weekend of it? maybe a bit of a tour around the south coast?

[@francisjanssen7156]

Would you take a px for your worn out MT for a shiny never dropped KTM excf350 😂😂😂

[@theogbeardedwonder]

I need to try me one of them there 405MTs

[@vortexrevs3277]

Hero Xpulse 210

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes, would be ideal if we could get them here