A Dependent "God" Who Lacks Aseity? | Hashim vs Trinitarian (BloodFire) | Speakers Corner |Hyde Park

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Recorded on 15 Aug, 2021
Hashim discusses the nature of God with a Christian Trinitarian.
Particularly the attribute of His Aseity.
Divine aseity is defined as the absolute self-sufficiency, independence, and autonomy of God.
Within the Christian Godhead, aseity is only possessed by the Father as the Son and Holy Spirit proceed from the Father. Therefore, they are contingent on the Father even for their existence.
Hashim also discussed the Filioque Controversy.
The 1054 split in the Easter and Western church was a result of the disagreement as to whether the Holy Spirit proceeded from just the Father or both the Father and the Son. The controversy, between the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Tradition, mostly took place with the addition of “and the Son” in The Nicene Creed. This is known as the Filioque Controversy.
Filioque is the Latin word meaning “and from the Son” had caused so much division in the early church that it led to the split between the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox tradition in CE 1054.
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[@jimfromwakanda7991]

Shaky: you're adding maths to God Hashim: you're adding man to God 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@parvezahmed4512]

Christian “ Stop using mathematics” Also him : 100% man 100% God

[@jimfromwakanda7991]

@@parvezahmed4512 🤣🤣

[@breedchampions]

2+2 is 4 minus 1 thats 3… quick maths… haha

[@Abdullah01-e]

@@breedchampions 😂👍

[@robinmjoy]

Lol your God does salah to a man(muhammad)..thats even worse

[@OmoiSenpai]

That kid is a whole nervous wreck. You can easily see it in his body nature. Swaying back and forwards, nervous laughter, can't stand still.

[@Khalid________]

please don't say things like this, he could have a medical condition...

[@kammal6767]

i think he might have sum condition

[@dr_captain5093]

We call him shaking boy 😂.. anyway even though he has a lot of ugly face expressions and sometimes he become very disrespectful, I don’t hate him I actually want him to become a Muslim one day, may Allah guide him.

[@Ace0555]

What medical condition. I heard the kidd insulting in other videos. He’s fine. Just a nervous wreck

[@Khalid________]

@@Ace0555 are you a doctor? I said he COULD have a medical condition.

[@randommuslim2149]

HASHIM ABSOLUTELY DISMANTLED HIM!

[@none0049]

not only dismantled him but made him vanished like smoke puff!

[@michaelbernard7402]

Dismantle what magog. You have a trinity Allah - Jibreel - Muhammad

[@aspreedacore]

@@michaelbernard7402 triadic formulas doesn't mean trinity unless you want to admit peter james and john are a trinity etc, bloodfire didn't answer any questions but instead deflected and strawmanned the whole time.

[@michaelbernard7402]

@@aspreedacore by all means blaspheme about Peter John and James You still got a trinity of your own and what about this.. Ar-Rum "The Romans were vanquished in the closer region, and they, after being vanquished, will prevail within a certain number of years. To God belongs the command before and after. And that day, ones who believe will be glad with the help of God. He helps whom He wills. And He is The Almighty, The Compassionate."[Quran 30:2-5 (Translated by Laleh Bakhtiar)]

[@michaelbernard7402]

@@aspreedacore but trinity was introduced by who .but it was there all the time Greater YHVH lessor YHVH The spirit. I shall pure my spirit on all flesh then on Act justification Joel 2 or not ... what about Isaiah 63 Isaiah 63:9 King James Version 9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. Isaiah 63:11 King James Version 11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him? Numbers 11:25 King James Version 25 And the Lord came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease

[@rhannatlz304]

It's so sad to see a boy that young, being brainswashed and doctrinated that hard, so that the maker can make him stubborn, ignorant and very poor in knowledge of his own religion like that.. Alhamdulillah for you always brother Hashim, for educating missguided people in the speakers corner.. May Allah bless you always brother, Aamiin yra

[@79Sarwar]

7:52 “The father CANNOT exist without generating the son” This kid ended the debate without any help from Hashim lol. There are Christians that disagree with this kid.

[@ashifhassan1148]

Sarwar do you have old and rare speakers corner videos. I have watched videos from your channel. If you have any rare or unseen footages, please upload it.

[@alwiegamiet5472]

@@ashifhassan1148 Shukran for your comment. Made me go look at his channel and the 1st video is where long time friend and reporter claimed the Pope Francis denied the divinity of Christ.

[@kabhussain3113]

You are the OG of speakers corner bro.. hope you are doing well

[@79Sarwar]

@@ashifhassan1148 Hi, sorry I don’t have any rare, unseen footages.

[@79Sarwar]

@@ashifhassan1148 Ive just gone through some old vids, and there are a couple of videos unlisted. I’ll send you the links here in a while.

[@kmtb2011]

Brother Hashim is a legend on his own

[@Ace0555]

He destroyed that kid

[@stepbak123]

So this bloodfire character likes to heckle others but clearly struggles to have a intellectual conversation and defend his faith.

[@mrdoteded3958]

7:55 father cannot exist without being UNCAUSED cause.. the guy demolished himself . Very thanks!

[@scaryjoker]

Good to see Brother Hashim put Bloodfire in his place... Like he literally hammered Bloodfire. Wow

[@bambam-hi9wj]

@@adegbengaogungeje5124 I think DCCI ministry will sack bloodfire because he is not cunning enough

[@adegbengaogungeje5124]

@@bambam-hi9wj Cunning? Hmm! Interesting choice of words.

[@adegbengaogungeje5124]

@D G The messages are pretty clear. Do u want an explanation?

[@joeygio5015]

@@adegbengaogungeje5124 and your buddy is pretty childish. Also he doesn’t know how to answer a yes or no question.

[@adegbengaogungeje5124]

@@joeygio5015 My buddy? Who r u referring to?

[@introvert_8406]

His body language shows how struggling he is. May the truth keep prevail my brother. Salam from Malaysia.

[@anthonypie9509]

Glory to Allah, good to see bro Hashim always speaking the truth.

[@AbdulRahman-vz2ng]

Alhamdulillah

[@hashirkhan8999]

@@michaelbernard7402 Trinity is mention in Quran as a False doctrine in Quran not like you are saying

[@michaelbernard7402]

@@hashirkhan8999 well it is for who is God is not Gabriel you call jibreel not a holy spirit and his not Muhammad the elected messager the Las to all mankind? That is a trinity for intercede who between Allah and Muhammad?

[@michaelbernard7402]

@@hashirkhan8999 but you still had to use the name Gabriel Jesus and Michael sura 2:98 but your Allah is a baal stealing and lying in his boast he has no associates....

[@michaelbernard7402]

@@hashirkhan8999 and what if there is a trinity does that not show not the Same God and his christ. Like your Allah and his elected Apostle and messenger? Why don't you stick to your one God no associates and the Christian his God and his associates??

[@nobody.6451]

This child has all characteristics of an Extremist . Manipulative, Deceptive, Angry, Impatient and More . He's filled with hate . May Allah grant him a mission of sincerity (towards God), rather than a mission for 'revenge' (against Muslims) . May Allah open up his heart I hope .

[@GioNToji]

A dangerous person to lead nevertheless.

[@penyokboyz]

Legendary Hashim the lion is roaring at the park n i love it 😅

[@g-rafcreations6605]

God knows the future, so he can be merciful to his creations in future, even when he doesn't yet creat his creations.

[@glassmanorangjitra]

Everything already created...

[@focus7624]

Hashim is simply a lion of dawah at speakers corner👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@alwiegamiet5472]

Hashim: Is one nature equal to two natures? Trinitarian: I'm not adding maths to God. hashim: Well somebody added man to God.....

[@israfiltv4600]

😂

[@amiaquehaque]

I was looking for this, it's at 13:24

[@sunstar2599]

😄

[@drkashem8416]

That was so embarrassing for the kid.

[@ExploreTanakh84]

Nice to see 1 of the Unitarian brothers stand with Hashim and back him up when George the Orthodox Christian was helping Bloodfire.

[@ronaldinho1174]

True

[@MegaTRUTH007]

Do you of any unitarian fellowships in the UK ?

[@ExploreTanakh84]

@@MegaTRUTH007 They are not Christian, they are false secular universalist.

[@MegaTRUTH007]

@@ExploreTanakh84 , How about a biblical Unitarian fellowship ?

[@ExploreTanakh84]

@@MegaTRUTH007 most people were converted or martyred in the medieval times by the Catholic Church and due to Trinitarianism its a slow process to get people away from that

[@TheSaf7uk]

By far the best speakers corner videos with educational slideshows

[@2003diamonez]

May Allah give hidayah to Chris to accept Islam.

[@2003diamonez]

@@stians.6912 maybe one day you are that person

[@2003diamonez]

@@SamuelNKiap clearly you did not read al quran at all

[@2003diamonez]

@@SamuelNKiap Jesus never said he is god....No identify to proof this..still a vacuum no matter how many millions of explanations you or any christians heap up, doesn't amount to anything at all

[@2003diamonez]

@@SamuelNKiap clearly you pick and choose verses in the bible that you assumed jesus really said that...you clearly ignore jesus said in John 17:3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You(the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent(as prophet and messenger).” in John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

[@safira2104]

Im a witness he did say: the father can not exist without generating a son and a spirit and then denied it

[@ashifhassan1148]

Captain bloodfire clearly has mental or anxiety issues. He was just avoiding the most crucial points addressed by brother Hashim. This time Hashim really scrutinised the christian doctrine. It was awesome. I got new information's from this conversation. You surely put this immature guy in his place. No doubt about that. Ma Sha Allah.

[@Danyboyx]

These trinitarians are more confused than a toddler 🤣❤️

[@AminulIslam-nt2zs]

That's a line loooool

[@mohammedhraichie5226]

Best part I’m not adding maths to god but some one added man to god ALLAHUAKBAR best response may Allah reward brother I’ve watched u from the very start.

[@ralf7034]

This guy debating hashim laughing like its absurd, mate your body language and tone shows you are out of your depth.

[@azimahasraf]

The ‘kid’ had the gall to say brother hashim is acting like a child when he is acting like one. At the same time, i feel sorry for the kid - this is an embarassing discussion. He embarassed himself the whole time and kept deflecting. And he showed disrespect to brother Hashim *smh*

[@ihdinamohamed4972]

Hashim the lion grrr! He always wins the argument with patience and wisdom.

[@RafikKhan-ol4zk]

Hashim is becoming the king of Speaker corner

[@starton5420]

جزاك الله خير الجزاء عن الإسلام والمسلمين وفي ميزان حسناتك الشيخ هاشم حفظكم الله ورعاكم وسدد على طريق الخير خطاكم ورزقكم من واسع فضله ورحمته ويعطيكم الصحه والعافيه ويطول بعمرك الشيخ.

[@AlmoravidsAlmohadsDynastie]

7:54 Alhamdulillah it's recorded

[@amarhamid8562]

I love how he slipped up and answered his own question about Allah having the ability to be most loving and merciful without using it, and Hashim caught him then he started with the strawman and argued against his own point that was hilarious 😂

[@moralcompass4113]

May Allah (SWT) give me your Sabr (Patience) brother Hashim!

[@BATAL6967]

Next to the man in black, to be precise the man holding the newspaper. although non-muslim, he is seen as a funny, humble, mature and respectful man.

[@TheThankfulServant]

Exactly! I wanted someone to highlight this 👏

[@Joorawon.M.Yousuf]

Chris actually brought up a VERY.... VERY.... VERY.. GOOD POINT❗⁉️ To whom was the father in the trinity, MERCIFUL TO IF THEY ARE ALL GOD AND CO-EQUAL❓❓🔥🔥‼️❗⁉️🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@onebludz]

Hashim ... the sharpest tool in the box.. you best be on your A game when you play with this brother. Big up Hashim man.. Lion in the park..

[@icetmanventura4957]

InnaAllaha ma 'as sabireen... Surely, Allah is with those that are patient.

[@ExploreTanakh84]

Nice to see Bloodfire have his turn. He is very arrogant and was very rude to me online and he not only targets Muslims, he also targets Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, Unitarians) and people who are other faiths.

[@Nicola.M7]

What type of Christian is he? I thought he was Catholic

[@ExploreTanakh84]

@@Nicola.M7 Bloodfire is Protestant. George is Orthodox.

[@Nicola.M7]

@@ExploreTanakh84 thanks

[@ExploreTanakh84]

@@Nicola.M7 no problem 🙂

[@K2alp]

Mashallah brother hashim you are amaizong .May Allah grant you jannatul ferdaus and make you always successful in this world and next .Ameen

[@fahad055]

jazak Allah khair brother Hashim .

[@marksalapuddin2730]

You are the best Hashim. May Allah bless you always.

[@moafro6524]

The brother in gray is an awesome human being.

[@mahirs3134]

One of the best from Hashim.....May Allah SWT grand you and your family a hidayah.

[@abumoalim]

Masha Allah Thanks brother Hashim

[@testing-je7yz]

According to the pagan traditions: The father does the punishment The son is the sacrifice, love, mercy The ghost is the spirit Pagan always held 3 person god head in many forms. Spanning from Egypt, Greece, India etc Hence, without the son there is no saviour. They're not going to accept 'The father ' as the sole power worthy of worship.

[@roka7024]

Christianity as a whole is a fail. Man god, 3 in 1, mommy, daddy, so, co equal ghost sidekick. God who was born and died, God who didnt know the hour or the season a fig tree bears fruit. Santa, easter bunny, Halloween devils, child fondling church fathers... etc etc etc

[@testing-je7yz]

@@stians.6912 Before you mock, a little insight of knowledge will help you clear the dust. In Islam, thr left side or left hand etc is seen as relating to lesz honour. For example, Muslim eat with the right hand, and shake others hand only using the right hand. While, Satan utilises the left hand etc. So you may see the reasons. The kabba, black stone, is foundation of unity of Muslim. Muslim prat towards mecca (kabba's location). Instead of different people praying different directions, there is a clear unity. One body. Islam is complete . There is not a single doubt. That is the beauty. The more you doubt the more you learn and uncover how unjust you have been to the message Allah has sent you. You'll cry when you find out. It happens all the time when people find the light of Allah.

[@testing-je7yz]

@@stians.6912 There is only one Quran. If the Quran was corrupted we would tell you and we would leave Islam in numbers. We follow the Quran because every doubt is extinguished with truth like no other. Even, people who hated Islam came to Islam after learning about it. That is something to be amazed at. Allah does not need any of us, rather we are in need of him!

[@mzulfi3839]

Hashim- did jesus have a human soul Nervous guy- ermmmm that's not in bible Hashim- neither is the trinity KO ALHAMDULILLAH

[@alialhilali9862]

Shamsi brought a very nice example actually when he said: the Bible says that god is a Jealous god, who he was jealous of before creation.

[@daacadyare7791]

20:35 Hashim:did Jesus had human soul? Christian: I don’t know, it’s not mentioned in the Bible? 22:55 Hashim :did jesus had a human soul? Christian :Yes Me : 😟😟😟🙄🙄confused as trinity.

[@jokodolog757]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 adam pbuh already redeem himself thats why he repent to god

[@MFS000]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 why Jesus need to redeem?? After a lot of century, Jesus came later to do that?? Why???

[@MFS000]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Ezekiel 18:20. This verse never said only blood sacrifice can washed away ur sins. Hebrew 10:3-4 is same too. Blood cannot washed away ur sins. God only want u to repent. And Luke 15:7. God only want u to repent. Not with blood. So who’s teaching are u follow?? Plus, why God sent the Son to be a sacrifice. Are u ok if ur father sacrifice u to forgive his own wrongdoing?? Plus, what is the sin of killing human?? And u killed God son, how massive is ur sins now??

[@mohdjamilbinmdghani1342]

@seekthetruth Naaahhhhh, it doesnt make any sense we need to carry the sins of adam. If what you are saying is true, nobody is gonna die, because humanity's sins have been paid in full? You cant be farther than the truth unfortunately

[@mohdjamilbinmdghani1342]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 sin nature? You just created that from thin air, didntcha? Why didnt adam's repentant redeemed us? He was literally called the son of god in the bible, but rather god needed to wait few centuries down to atone us? Sorry, i cant even force my mind to accept that. Another one, god sent down his son, which is basically himself to die for us... wow

[@russelislam6135]

MashAllah brother Hashim and Chris. May Allah bless you

[@rapidsniper2008]

It's so sad to see such people arguing about God, not to recognize Him but just to prove that their church is right. Not even about their scripture anymore.

[@muizzawwalibrahim3487]

Allah willing....next time I come to London I'll visit the park to see all of you at work maa shaa Allah.

[@Moongoldnxay]

"Jesus died for our sins " so why was the payment made to Satan?

[@RiskyWiskyHD]

wait what? i never heard that argument before? can you explain.

[@MrYliYli]

Explain please

[@Moongoldnxay]

Doctrine of the ransom theory of atonement

[@MrYliYli]

@@Moongoldnxay are you saying that ppl were brought back from satan?

[@Moongoldnxay]

@@MrYliYli no they believed Jesus has to pay for attornment of the original sin. And that payment was made to Satan. Because when he died for 3 days he went to hell

[@abdellatifhmani8477]

Masha Allah brother Hashim. I learned so much BARAKA Allahou fiek.

[@VanDutch10]

Hashim is too much for the young man...that young man needs to humble himself and leave his ego at home

[@DesertVox]

There's a special place for those that KNOW the truth but are obstinate.

[@taimur74]

Alhamdullilah for the clarity of Tawheed

[@andikhaerulnasruddin6480]

Chris seemed to back up Hashim's arguments against the Christian. Is Chris a Muslim now or is this a case of Christianity v1 vs Christianity v2?

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

This is straight up defilement of Greek mythology, Zeus Hercules analogy

[@falcongulf5470]

God is the greatest ☝

[@thescottishakhclips5453]

This guy needs to stop coming to the park. He’s constantly embarrassing himself 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@alialhilali9862]

I don’t how Hashim could hold him self not slapping this fool. Look at his face and the way he talks, so tempting

[@sohaibalvi7295]

Hashim does not miss. This is too difficult to watch cause half way you feel sorry for the headphones guy. The problem with this kind of public embarrassment is that they never learn, just get more hardened. At this rate he will become a hatun.

[@christopherwells3426]

At the point that you discovered that God Almighty was the most merciful. You were in existence. For him to enact this Mercy upon. What He was before existence is irrelevant!

[@abdulgaffoorsungay5415]

Child: when you go back and watch this you will understand. Me: yes. Of only you could watch this video over and realise you never understood anything

[@crazyprof5349]

Mashallah brother!

[@shakeyfibonacci9095]

😂🤣😂 this fool always gets emotional, embarrassed and runs away.

[@amilitarymind]

What I love about Hashim compared to others, is his sharpness. He is extremely sharp and perceptive like the blade of an axe and immediately cuts the thing (usually a straw man, circular, or contradictory argument) then and there. Masha Allah he lives up to his name very well, Hashim which in Arabic means breaker or cutter. Even more literal and even more fitting, it means breaking something hard or hollow. Masha Allah. Allahu Akbar.

[@justarshad8354]

I've watched some of this black christian man discussion..and everytime he lost.not once he actually make some sense in his arguments..wonder why hashim even waste his precious time with these types of close minded kids...

[@christopherwells3426]

The attributes of the Creator are eternal! Meaning He has had the ability to demonstrate to possess to share to enact to give! Eternally as He has had the ability eternally.

[@drakoontag]

I have a urge to insult the sheer stupidity of this person, but I will refrain from doing so! May Allah guide these lost souls!

[@gwledosman9744]

Me too I swear

[@koroushanisi6578]

God is all forgiving ... WHO did he forgive in the trinity BEFORE the creation & WHY

[@squady5898]

35:48 lol i couldn't stop laughing!! 'yu should have a factory of strawman'

[@jamilusalisu8075]

Shaky: “Jesus was a man pre-incarnation ‘BUT HE DID’NT CHANGE HIS NATURE’…” 10:33 I’m so cringe 😬 with this level of IGNORANCE

[@thehatman3089]

Hashim on 2 legs, Bloodfire on 0 legs.

[@mahadaAden]

Mansha Allah Hashim,Chris and the Greek guy are the best.

[@rapidblaze5664]

This bloodfire joker is a absolute joke he should do himself a favour and never speak again this lame argument has been debunked many times on streams he thought he might have point but failed miserably

[@user-of7sy1zq8b]

May Allah have mercy upon us all amen

[@saifulanuar1735]

that kid is dying to run away from the conversation...lol

[@taaltool3412]

Brother Hashim you should tell him , if somebody tell you you’re kind and brave and strong.. did this means that you are three persons??!!

[@nobody.6451]

8:30 when you cannot win intellectually you try and win emotionally . A weak boy, unfortunately . May Allah make this brother sincere I hope .

[@user-of7sy1zq8b]

We all depend upon the father amen

[@whyayyyerrlaffinfhorr2152]

Hashim started off with slayer mode on straight away

[@rathernot6660]

My favorite Daees in no particular order Mansur Hashim Shamsi

[@cobralate1467]

Qur'an 7:179 They have hearts they do not understand with, eyes they do not see with, and ears they do not hear with. They are like cattle. In fact, they are even less guided! Such ˹people˺ are ˹entirely˺ heedless. May Allah Guide us all.

[@user-of7sy1zq8b]

Jesus has a God pbuh amen

[@Daisy-yq1gi]

As an ex Orthodox Christian I feel this idiot's pain. He's never really thought or understood the Nicean debate about the hypostases of Father/Son/Holy Spirit. It's nonsensical after all hence my turning to Islam.

[@ozcoleman7914]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 maybe try focusing less on your username and more on the content of your message, how insulting that you think by putting 2 baseless sentences you'll change someone's opinion. Most Christian core doctrines don't make any sense and have been rebuked on many occasions, more people are waking up to Islam and even those who don't accept Islam still respect the messenger making his name the most popular boy's name in the world. full stop.

[@ozcoleman7914]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 it's your opinion, not the truth, if there was any TRUTH to it Christians wouldn't be losing millions of followers to atheism or Islam. did Mary believe what you believe? no one who believed in the unitarian concept shared by the earliest Christians was left alone all killed. if someone has gone through their own journey and is now happy with what they've found who are you to try to diminish it? if you weren't a Christian it would be extremely rude but as you are a Christian it is still rude. you cant challenge any core doctrines in Islam (ive tried for many years too) and that's why you have to resort to desperate side points that make no difference to the Core doctrine, as for Christianities core doctrines well just keep watching train wreck after train wreck with Christians being schooled in the park

[@israfiltv4600]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Are you going to use the same comments every time? So you lack intelligence and argument? come on x)

[@videogamefan1935]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 please change ur name in "Copy & Paste"

[@israfiltv4600]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Again you assert something without giving any explanation, you are so afraid of the truth that you behave like an idiot who knows absolutely nothing and who act like a deaf when the truth reaches his heart. You are blinded, you can see it in all the comments you sent to all my brothers by doing "Copy paste" without really explaining the context or the meaning, you are acting like a robot subhan'Allah! Woe to you, woe to you and woe to you again! I swear by whoever holds my soul who keeps blaming herself, I will bear witness against you on the day of judgement! And then you won't be able to say that I didn't warn you! Salam.

[@Sali8two]

I make dua to Allah to allow Chris to become a Muslim.

[@serkiznatz]

This guy needs to work on his emotion management. He's reacting and gets emotional because he thinks Hashim doesn't "understand" their point of view.

[@Kekochieanz]

Theres is different between Eternal attributes and gods action. (Aswa wa sifaat vs fi'liyat) Most loving is attribute. But loving something is an action/doing. In order to be able to have a doing, one need to have the attribute 1st. Example, One must have the attribute of creator before creating a creation. So, one does not have to depend on creation to have all-creating attribute. Same as most Loving attribute. God must always/eternally have the attribute of Love. So, when come the creation, He can love whoever, whenever, however He wants. That does not mean Allah need a creation first to be the most Loving.

[@karikun90]

Chris woke up and chose violence 😂😂😂

[@akmaldiable7060]

Chris blood is on fire

[@ghamkolifaqeer3420]

Salamualaikum, Jazak ALLAH brother Hashim,

[@paksallion]

I love this. Most of these christians are literally doing dawah for us loool 1+1+1 =1 ? hahaha

[@abdellahabib1818]

These christians make up words that are illogical and impossible and think they are logical and possible just because they are words. Like seriously can you every be eternally bogotton. Its like saying unicorns are real because the word exists. I am sure that greek word he keeps saying is one of those impossible words, just like his idea's of independent God being dependant and he says its like that because the bible says it. I knew the bible was full of errors and contradictions, but this like gives it another level to its falsehood. in short it is a book that lies in many, various and twisted ways.

[@abdellahabib1818]

@D G To that i would say can you think of anything at all.

[@abdellahabib1818]

@D G Is this the same comment twice now. Its rather when people cannot argue against the content of what is said they attack how people say it, or who says it. They think by this the win the point but they are only really running away.

[@adiltsrl7143]

الله يرضى عليك يا بطل

[@djoloffc]

African Christians vs Muslims debate great arguments

[@greetedblunt8020]

i saw the debates on ur page great arguments.

[@sid5090em]

I love hasim he is quick on the draw he catches him out left right and centre he's too faaaaaasssssttttt for you little boy

[@ralf7034]

How is god sub servient to myself please explain? You god is subservient to his creation because youre christian doctrine itself say he was crucified, if thats not subservient i dont know what is.

[@ralf7034]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 is that why he was arressted because he willingly gave up lol he even posted disciples at the gates of the garden where he was arrested. Obvs god isnt subservient to us but your guy seems to think so. He is either stupid or foolish

[@ralf7034]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 jesus did. whats your point, that he knew lol mate thats weak, haha he was praying to the father in that very garden that he didnt want to die (father take this cup from me) yeah so willing jesus is asking god to help him and then also whilst on the cross he asks god why he has been forsaken lol yeah thats willing for ya.

[@ralf7034]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 how does it lol refer to that and seperation from the father lol no where does it point to this lol there wasnt actually a cup there, jesus says this lol hes doesnt actually pray in the garden cup in hand lol .there is no cup to drink from. Stop putting un your own words in jesus mouth.

[@ralf7034]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 no prophet god sent down preached 3 in 1, every prophet preached 1 GOD and only ONE GOD, there had been so many prophets before jesus n then all of a sudden this 3 in 1 appears out of nowhere. Is this what jesus preached thet god is 3 in 1 and he is a god in part of this 3 like the father is god in 1 of these parts and holy spirit. Im pretty sure jesus EXPLICITLY said the father is the only TRUE GOD.

[@ralf7034]

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 if you cant bring a verse explicit in this belief of yours then just accept it is your own reason/perception that making it true to you and not the actual bible because othereise you would accept only 1 god and not this 3 in 1 mess.

[@3DotEntertainment]

How did that kid not get that? Im serious. Like HOW? That is THEE WEAKEST argument I have EVER heard someone try and make against Islam.

[@yusupwongwong2893]

This christain guy is very confidence and proud when talkin at the park but he actually no knowledge what he is talking about

[@syahrolrizal6380]

May I know, is Chris (Levis shirt) a Muslim?

[@Nicola.M7]

No he's a Unitarian Christian

[@yasir889]

If christians will be sincere in their arguments, they will quickly realise that they are not reaching a logical conclusion with the trinity

[@muttystone]

I stand correct...they agree and disagree simultaneously! All integrity are lost among those who disagree with Allah's deen and His Oneness. Allahu Akbar......With or without us, Islam will prevail, la illaha ill allah.