A Disaster Battle I Can't Win.

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[@Darkmanmeister]

"Unwinable battle" - 64 losses

[@daxl505]

It was to me but never to the Legend !

[@DiesNahts6969]

with skaven wich is even more impressive considering how many they are per unit

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@DiesNahts6969eshin gutter runners are the best skirmishers in the game though

[@thefiendish186]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 Depends, waystalkers are better in killing lords or high value infantry while kiting them. Gutter Runners are better against low-mid tier infantry.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@thefiendish186 true, but poison is very good still. And gutter runners are a tier lower, way cheaper and 1 turn recruit time.

[@daxl505]

Hey Legend thank you for winning my "impossible battle" I never underestimated you. I tried 10 times and came close to only 1 of them still needed your help cheers

[@MrWiggles00706]

You were so cocky about it being unwinnable. Sit.

[@daxl505]

@@MrWiggles00706 I really wasn't but whatever haha im not here to argue im here to enjoy his videos

[@getinstafinished1526]

@@MrWiggles00706you have no life I can tell

[@blurgalsklech2929]

@@MrWiggles00706ya don’t need to be an prick.

[@aeth4190]

The guy mastered the art of click bait mail

[@panzer9163]

Astragoth using the Dreadquake on his own troops. - "I'm something of a Skaven myself."

[@ThirstyOtter]

I chuckled when Legend shouted "Its playing Skaven music", the inner rat let loose :)

[@ohshenanigans3279]

He forgot how to speak English momentarily lol that was great @18:26

[@divvu1014]

When the inner rat-boy emerges

[@Browash]

"the skaven can't win this battle" legend - "the skaven dont have to win, we'll convince the chaos dwarves to defeat themselves"

[@messiha666]

A very Eshin thing to do

[@mattandrews2594]

Lesson learned. Don't taunt Legend that he can't win a battle, but ESPECIALLY if it's using his natural kin - the Skaven, yes-yes.

[@jamesanderson5465]

Not unless you really want him to save you legendary campaign 😈

[@JB-xl2jc]

Reverse psychology, yes-yes

[@jimbob4447]

Guaranteed way to make Legend choose your save file: tell him it's unwinnable.

[@harryhoudini714]

isnt this generally the reason the battles get sent to him in first place? so its kinda redundant and besides, if all mailed in battles say "unwinnable" it will sort of defeat the purpose anyway! Also, to actually send legend a truly unwinnable battle that even he could not win, the battle must consist of 100 Armies of all Factions and your Army consisting of one gobbo with two chopsticks that are not sharp! that might do it....although I mean....he gets a gobbo with TWO Chopsticks!

[@zacharyguillotte9852]

I have to say with basic tactics you couldn’t win this so I can see where the person had issues.

[@ГеоргийПодсветов]

Few years ago I send disaster save to him, and he rejected it with saying it does not look winnable! It was a good weapon team with low-level heroes against LOTS of elite high elves.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Very well. A half health, 12 unit garrison versus two stacks of decent army. You have no lord, just a unit of infantry with encourage. Also it's Lizardmen, your single playmaker type unit are cold one cavalry.

[@TheCatthedragon]

Me when play disaster battle: AI is an inseparable juggernaut, ignores distractions, always waits for its artillery and protects its backline, enemy heroes chase down my value like usain bolt Legend when play disaster battle: AI drops an automatic flamestorm on its own units 5 seconds into the battle

[@onnol917]

There is prolly more to it to trick the AI responds that backfire

[@TheBenirons]

Officer: Look, temporary units! Throw every unit at 'em! General: Moron! Don't forget the dreadquake mortar!

[@TheBenirons]

Just gonna get this out of the way: You won something!

[@akselbentsen3683]

19:04 it’s rare to hear legend express that much joy lmao. You love to see it.

[@commodusleitdorf2726]

Legend surprised by his own effective strategies is always fun to watch.

[@AliothAncalagon]

Eshin gutter runners are legit insane. Usually it gets kinda exhausting rather quickly to constantly micromanage skirmish armies like this, but when you see them rip elite units to pieces like that its absolutely worth it.

[@quint3ssent1a]

Skeptic: THIS BATTLE CAN'T BE WON! Legend: To win this battle, we must convince enemies to kill themselves. *Chaos dwarf army uses Dreadquake Battery on their own units to kill a measly menace below*

[@fallenpine5544]

and what did we learn children? Don't ever doubt a man who's name has "Legend" in it

[@derekgarvin6449]

when legend set control groups, you know it's serious

[@jgauthier92]

When the AI uprising begins legend will be our john conner

[@LegendofTotalWar]

I don't think there's any chance of an AI uprising programmed by Creative Assembly.

[@davidkampmann9783]

I dont think that CA is even remotly intersted in making a better AI. After all they would have to Invest ressources into a Feature that very well could be disliked by a lot of Players because it would make the Game more frustrating 😉😅

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

@@davidkampmann9783 Its funny that this is still the situation after the General AI revolution we are seeing. I mean General AI models are beating the best human players in all kinds of games from Dota (old news I know) to all kinds of games, even racing games like Trackmania (newer and more interesting development). I wonder what stops companies like CA from taking general AI models and training it on battles from good human players. Maybe an AI that is too good will actually turn off players?

[@hereandnow3156]

Astrogoth sprinting down the field to wipe your commander out of existence might be one of the most horrifying images I've ever seen. I'm not even skaven and I felt like routing. Can't believe your leader didn't shit himself and immediately run off the field.

[@Sandriu]

That battle against Zhatan might actually have been winnable if that was a minor settlement. I've noticed that in skaven minor settlement battles, if somehow you manage to stay alive and them not entering too far into the city, they just turn off and stay outside, letting you kill them with the towers

[@matheusferreira5203]

Not only skaven that happened defending against crooked moons as chaos dwarves to me, i guess is a general bug

[@Grivehn]

Looked like its one of the Cathay walls Zhatan attacked.

[@Deerygccawwetthjbgde]

I also noticed that when I was playing skaven. Some AI units were circling outside the settlement.

[@Ziflin]

Thank you for the daily uploads Legend, it makes my day better

[@44Midfield]

"Impossible battle" Legend: Hold my cheese.

[@giusespada00]

This is one of the videos where we'll be nostalgic about in years

[@MelkorBauglir25]

I am watching Legend for so many years and i am still impressed how insanely good he is at winning battles others struggle with. Nice work

[@vballer630]

This was the tightest battle I've seen in awhile. Almost out of ammunition just praying for army losses.

[@tommyservo9660]

You know what, I do like reading the emails.

[@aleksimusmaximus]

Imagine if the guy with the save file makes his own video actually beating the gate battle that legend said impossible lmao. 27:15

[@gordonthefish]

@@isaacalves97 The cav wasn't very fast since they were exhausted, Astragoth/fliers were the only fast ones since he has perfect vigor and they don't lose as much flying around. Also when units are tired they lose armor which lets gutters shred everything.

[@awsomesaucekirby]

Hey, I have a pretty bad battle that I could use help with, even if it's just advice. The battle is a high elf vs lizardmen defense of a settlement. the settlement garrison is 3 archers and 3 spearmen at half strength, with reinforcements from a nearby army with a flying princess and noble hero, 1 white lions, 2 shadow warriors, 3 spearmen, 3 seaguard, 5 archers, 2 pheonixes, one great eagle, and one eagle thrower. This is against 5 feral carnosaurs, 7 stegadons, 3 saurus warriors, a wizard, a melee hero, and cavalry lord. in addition, they have reinforcements of 1 melee lord, 1 chameleon shock infantry, and 1 pack of missile beasts. they have the high ground and there's plenty of woods all around. turtling up has led to the dinosaurs smashing my front lines, sending in my fliers to assassinate the enemy lord while my army hides in the forest has had mixed results, and splitting the army has given me no advantage. at this point, I'm considering hiding my army in the woods and waiting out the timer, but I'd like to see what you think.

[@Blundabus1337]

Watching your videos makes me want to buy this game despite not being able to afford it. I haven't felt this way about a game since I was still in middle school and didnt have my own job.

[@EagleScoutmano]

It's 100% an amazing game. However the full experience requires a bunch of expansion packs as well as the game. Additionally it gradually grows old; the gameplay is fairly well the same from army to army, race to race.

[@Alesha1701]

Those who think that there's a battle that Legend can't win just haven't been watching Legend long enough ;)

[@DrFeltcher]

Love you reading out the emails, great new touch

[@CarlosCastro-hu4xk]

Watching your videos is a master class, always love them

[@honkworld9405]

True skaven gameplay.

[@Slyzors]

never forget that clan eshin gutter runners are honesty insane with the damage output thanks to all the armor piecing they get

[@bone_zoner]

The weeping blade contact effect on the night runners cut down a big portion of the armor on their single entities, giving the gutter runners a lot more bang for their buck

[@easytanksgaming3238]

Regular gutter runners and Eshin guyter runners - is about 3 times more usable units in general. Their almost full AP warpslings is a no joke

[@Storiedfrog9]

I love the "its playing skaven music YEAH!" comment

[@darklegion1783]

These battles aren’t impossible they are just super hard because you really need to manage ammo really well. Ive done a battle similar to this, with eshin vs zatan one of the funnier down to the wire fights i ever had !

[@PiaseckiAdam22]

And here i have trouble playing "normal battles" i guess ... knowledge is KEY and priceless. Knowledge of map, units, game play ... amazing vid. Learning A LOT by watching (i still know nothing).

[@madhatten5123]

And some really good micro

[@ricwalker6600]

i have noticed on rare occassions that a reloading of a game can change the auto resolve outcome. my guess is, that some of the buffs and debuffs are not "saved" correctly.

[@dippycord1678]

My favorite is when I'm gonna lose auto resolve then take a banner off my guy and suddenly I'm winning it

[@choronos]

@@dippycord1678 The game is so janky, so why do I love it so much? I can answer that question, I just think it's amusing that I unironically love such a broken game.

[@sativa-sloth6099]

As a new player to TWH, this was amazing to watch. I'm on my 2nd campaign ever with DE as Lokir Fellheart and I've had a battle or two that said decisive defeat in AR but I took control and grinded my way to to a victory. Just have to finesse the AI a bit.

[@rickylahey657]

Once I seen the army I knew it was possible but a huge pain in the ass

[@emmanova9611]

i didnt you could play with the AI like that, its really impressive you did a very well use of each ability and each clic, i saved this video so i can come back and actually learn to play

[@brumpbotungus8425]

that was a banger. the ai behavior around those summons at the beginning was so goofy

[@MasterReaperSID]

This has to be the most cheese I have seen from you in a long time. Boy do I love it.

[@GentlemanBystander]

Never try to put this man in a corner in a situation where he can loose his inner Skaven.

[@reeeeeeeeeeeeepr2362]

Eshin convert 100% of the dmg as armor piercing for Gutter runners, IIRC. absolutely essential vs chaos dwarves. GG legend !

[@DevilBirdProductions]

"I thought he'd go down way slower than this!" MISSILE RESISTANCE NO HELP WHEN STAB-STAB IN THE BACK, YES-YES

[@Grivehn]

Figured all the balance of power was in those abandoned Hellcannon crews. As soon as they got attacked, you got army losses. Also, Astragoth is both rather fast and tall... (for a Dwarf).

[@rbwbr]

I thought the same. The hellcannons were probably worth like half an army in balnace of power

[@makuuclarete3470]

The rat runners always actually perform very well to me in a pinch especially in very hard difficulty. Use them to pull heavy cavs, slow flanking enemies, harass backlines. Very good units.

[@Astrenar]

hears the skaven music at about 18:25 and immediately loses his mental faculties, overtaken by the great horned rat's influence

[@spiritofclay3758]

This is the power of ranged...I had a very similar situation vs Chaos Dwarves with Nurgle after turn 200, i really had zero ranged attackers and my heros were the Exalted Knights of Nurgle..The combination of minotaurs, Kdath destroyers, Flying hero and siege was too much for melee Nurgle to handle..The dwarf hero was pretty much maxed too with all purple items..Dude was a tank

[@xensonar9652]

27:04 "Zhatan the Black the Black"

[@παππαςγιαννης-τ6τ]

Me at the end of the video: YOU PICKED THE WRONG BATTLE FOOL!

[@theStamax]

It's gotta be that he got pulled out. If he wasn't and the ambush simply failed (i.e. was spotted) he still would have been the attacker. But since he said he was the defender, it's much more likely that he was spotted beforehand and then attacked by Astragoth.

[@mattandrews2594]

Technically both cases are being spotted. It does suck that the game never makes clear that Ambush stance involves passing TWO calculations.

[@theStamax]

@@mattandrews2594 yes, but in one case astragoth would be the attacker, while in the other case he'd get a prompt to attack the army (Even though he was spotted) making him the attacker. But yes, it would be great to get a chance for being detected indicator somewhere.

[@advid01]

"Who's the real Skaven here?" you will always be the real Skaven, Cheese Lord

[@Loyal_Lion]

The AI is completely braindead bombarding and casting spells on its own army.

[@perrymeril]

This entire battle was basically Chaos dawi going "look at our big fireduck."

[@vladdrakul7851]

This video is 'evidence #1 that Legend deserves his name! He is the Muhammad Ali of Total War battles. He 'floats like a butterfly but stings like a bee!'

[@JerkyMurky]

Legend "is there no one else! IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?!"

[@erich1411]

Saying that a battle is impossible for Legend triggers his hidden shenanigans

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

Man, Astragoth really REALLY hates rats.

[@pablitop2777]

I've been ambushed by that title the video should've ended before the battle even began.

[@divvu1014]

Sigh. I have a stack of forsaken led by The Twisted Twins that are just now hiding in front of this hugeass Grimgor army + Waaagh. He has all his initial units + 3 giants in the waaagh iirc. Far from a disaster battle and I already know how to deal with him but I consider the direct attack unwinnable... Temtped to send it to him just to provoke a reaction. 'but leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeend, sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeely you caaaaaaaaaaaaaan't wiiiin thiiiis' ...should I try?

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

nothings impossible when the master of cheese gets his grubby mits on a skaven army.

[@Streetbroker]

LOL! This was so enjoyable!

[@Tachii31]

Hey now, that siege could be winnable...The bug where Zhatan crashes and dies immediately on contact with the Gates is still in the game, right?

[@Astarohath]

Astragoth sprinting after eshin general: *Get back here you filthy thagi!*

[@pouyakisomi6045]

One of the best disaster battle i have seen

[@Speederzzz]

One day someone will send him 1 empire general against 4 full chaos armies and he will finally get that unsavable disaster battle

[@jarosawmarekgopek6639]

Nice, yes-yes! But I'm still missing "later fcukers" at the end of each video :D

[@redelephantsdotnl]

Now in all fairness - if this *were* a succesful ambush battle, you'd probably still send it to Legend. Holy crap, the disparity in power here is insane.

[@saltedllama2759]

Legend making it look relatively easy as he does! I think most players just aren't willing to commit to what it takes to win really challenging battles. They all want it to be hammer-and-anvil-easy (as all historical titles were before Warhammer), or auto-resolve. Anything more and their brains explode.

[@BlackyMox]

actually i play my games with like 90% auto-resolve. last total war i played was Medieval II and i cant find battles in TW:WH as interesting as i did in ME II. No matter the faction i play or the enemy i face, every battle feels the same. It wasnt like this in the old games.

[@marc7817]

truly impressive how good you are

[@Elgar337]

When I see Legend play, I think to myself that his unit tier evaluations don't mean shit.

[@BB8enjoyer]

4:00, yepp, the rat lord

[@Zoltri]

I feel like within the context of a 20v20 battle playing as Clan Eshin no battle is impossible to win short of a full doomstack of tier 4+ single entity enemies. The amount of tools Clan Eshin has is insane, and the AI is so predictable and goofy in this game you can abuse them to no end to turn a battle in your favor.

[@bobbinsgaming3028]

I'll never not laugh at the voice for his fans - "Eh Legend bet you can't win that battle" RFLMAO

[@Freeloader_420]

Legend really should have been the voice of Thanquol when he releases.

[@nanonano2595]

oh if only this came out a few days ago, i was playing eshin and had problems dealing with chorfs. Ended up abusing T3 skaven settlement defences and warpbombs.

[@agps4418]

moral of the story: use your AP ammo

[@plutotheotaku]

never a doubt in my mind!

[@alirezarezaei2976]

Dude when I'm paying attention to the actual AI behaviors I see how it is easy to enhance the AI to be much more challenging without the need to buff the hell out of them and debuff the player in the higher difficulties Just look at how the AI is stupid that leaves his artillery piece permanently by just getting touched in melee once Or how it is stupid that uses those massive bombardments on top of its own troops I mean when the AI programmers at CA can program the AI to ignore small targets and not shoot at them with missiles is it so hard for them to give the AI some kind of awareness of the surroundings to prevent it from using big AOE abilities on the areas that are filled predominantly with friendly troops?! Or keep coherent of the army and prevent the creation of massive gaps in your lines when you advance Or place some guards near important pieces of artilleries that are considered so important in your balance of power Also what the fuck does "Zhatan the Black the Black" actually mean?!

[@PedroG78]

13:15 Legend makes groups

[@WhatsleftofTom]

Dude made this look easy

[@GoldSpangledBananaBoy]

Skavenbrew for everyone! Except the Dwarf-things!

[@Peatingtune]

I feel like the only way to get Legend is to send him a troll battle set up to be intentionally unwinnable. Attacking a full stack with one unit of Eastern Spearmen and sending him the save etc. Not that it would be fun or something he'd agree to try.

[@LegendofTotalWar]

this happens all the time

[@TheDarkSideOfMyOwn]

Unwinable Battle! Legend ok what do we have 2 rocks and a stick Well good enough but we probably get some dmg😂

[@maestromarat6195]

Maybe it would've been "impossible" if they were using dreadquake mortars on iron daemons rather than hell cannons (assuming the ai didn't waste all its shots on summoned units) but I don't see how this could ever be classified as impossible in the absence of dairy?

[@minnumseerrund]

Who needs allies when you've got AI like this

[@dawidkaczmarek8639]

Impossible battle? Skaven clanrats will do. The grindset here. Give this man a single skaven and he will cheese the world yes yes

[@azzik9931]

Good-nice job, Legend!

[@nagashbones]

Bravo!! True Legend!! Great battle! Great win!!

[@LordMrPhantom]

I envy you sir. The vortex campaign with Hexoatl still taunts me

[@roguegargoyle914]

Good tactic to get you to win his battle :) Very well done.

[@Sweetllew]

If you can not win as Skaven Legend is the person who can pull it out if it is possible

[@MadLadMartyMcFly85]

Eshen....esshhaaayyy. buuuuhhhh😂😂😂😂 Dwarf LaDS Dwarven noughty boiz

[@thebean3995]

*points at great taurus* "Thats great :D"

[@danialnotflicker]

Legend, you're a God!

[@Alukard66]

legend dabbing on dem doubters

[@SomeIdiotLUL]

Cant win?.... hold on a sec let me get my popcorn first

[@mariusloveless7880]

Great video Legend!

[@imatomato6402]

Ever notice how missile units tend to overkill a single model in a unit far more than in warhammer 1 and 2? Could explain why they use so much more ammo.