A Discussion on Samskaras and Their Release

[@jeara69]

One thing I would add to Rupert's guidance on this topic is that it can be good to observe carefully (meaning with detachment) the existence of a relationship between thoughts and kriyas... When the Kundalini (or vital energies or Chi-Qi) is activated in the system it acts as a *rotor-router* and speeds up dramatically the untying of the knots in the body-mind system hence the physical releases which can be dramatic and even violent.. But what Rupert says is dead on in my experience... Give them absolutely no importance just notice them (don't focus on them), let them pass through and focus on breathing or your heart center... This to shall pass as my previous teacher used to say!

[@ranirathi3379]

hi! so i didnt actively/knowingly start kundalini practices. after spontaneous heart center awakening, and around that time i'd started lucid dreaming a lot - purging has been heavy. after about a year of heart awakening, i did my root chakra healing - and just after that, as i looked in the mirror - i was myself and everything around me as well. the reason i am making this query/comment is bcz i didnt actively do kundalini yoga. nevertheless my life has been upended. does it make sense? wtf do i do?

[@jorgetfreitas3167]

The mind itself is an illusion that creates shadows of illusions within the light of consciousness reality. Thank you Rupert for distributing your light to dispel the shadows of ignorance.

[@wilma8326]

Looking, as a healer, from an energy perspective I see believes and feelings as energy patterns. What we call mind is a summory of many energy pattern.

[@squamish4244]

That's why yogic practices have such a prominent place in Tibetan Buddhism. It recognizes the Yogic tradition of India as a way to approach purifying the mind by purifying the subtle body. I have healers too, who have helped me an enormous amount. You do good work.

[@squamish4244]

Samskaras in Buddhism, vasanas in the Yogic tradition and Advaita Vedanta. I have kundalini syndrome and what he says is all true. After many years of struggling with the blazing energy and benzodiazepine dependency, which really messed up the processing of energy, lately energy has been pouring out of me violently in bursts, especially as I'm off benzos now after 15 years. In the last four months I've had twelve or so huge releases where I'll just lay on the bed and flop around for hours. What's coming up is terror energy that has been trapped in my body for a long time and caused massive back pain, gut problems, general bodily stiffness despite a lot of exercise including yoga. One thing I should mention is that I get a tremendous amount of help from energy healers who can 'see' my energy and move it around and clear it out with their skills. They also bring their own considerable awareness to my psychic knots and that opens them up and smooths my energy system out. Awareness is the ultimate healer of everything. I've also gotten my energy healers to work on my parents and other family members because they can stop physical illness from manifesting while it is still 'coagulating' in energetic form, and also for mental wellness. Also, I do Bikram yoga. Yes, it is intense, but it is also really beneficial in heating up my body and helping it dump crap out and smooth out the energy.

[@knowthetruth311]

The goal is already achieved. Now, me it's two months with these samskaras bubbling all over my body and as my teachers Mr. Goenka says, "don't judge them just look on and they too shall pass."

[@searay422011]

Anicca and be equanim I myself lived to very intense experience with Sanskaras in meditation cours at vipassana it would be nice to have more people to be experience in this domain luckily, we have KZbin for now.

[@SatMatt7]

Thx for your gentle satsang, Rupert.

[@KimberlyLWright]

They are bubbling up.. Grateful for your pointings

[@clarkkent3730]

demons... Don't feed them

[@lark9068]

"The goal has already been achieved. But we keep having to go back there." That's exactly the same as the "progressive paths." It's the "keep having to go back" that's the work.

[@DazLeon]

This was a valuable conversation. Its good to hear that the body-mind will take its own time to settle.

[@dianagusterson9572]

I find this to be true in my own life. Painfully so.

[@DavidKolbSantosh]

According to the traditional Samskara doctrine of Yoga Sutras, every experience leaves a latent impression (and the first birth of a jiva cannot be traced back, it is without begining), this accumulation stays in the subtle body, and influences the forms of the future birth (jati), life span (ayur) and experiences (bhoga), these impressions last until there is full realization (prajna) of the truth of the difference between the noumenal Self and the empirical ego. The dispassion from this realization renders the samskaras unproductive like burnt seeds. Then when the already generated karma (prarabdha karma) in the form of that present body runs its course the subtle body is dissolved along with the burnt samskaras. The condition of the samskaras prior to being burnt by realization are as either dormant (prasupta), attenuated (tanu), interrupted (vicchinna) or active (udara).

[@nancyg3590]

Kriyas have been happening here for about a year now. They have evolved without any movements by “me”. These mini explosions have now moved from just happening on my left side to fully throughout my entire body. Hitting the voice box occasionally too.

[@gracev4186]

I have just now felt this ", observing, judgeing presence slack up in the last few days. It's not clear as to what I am going through; but I have faith in the Long, Intense discomfort ✴️ 😐 I can safely assume that the severity, and amount of time and prayer/meditation It took to get here has given me some added resilience with the"shadow?!?" 😐We don't Call it that down south here in the Bible belt. Haha I'm still waiting to see. I feel reassured I've gotten through, but gingerly;🪶🦌 So pray for me. Love you 🌈🪶🎶 Grace 🦋☔💕

[@squamish4244]

@@gracev4186 I've gotten tremendous relief from kriyas by working with energy healers. Otherwise, I don't know what I would have done - they can get so severe that I can't eat or sleep.

[@bethw1205]

"the realignment of the body-mind goes on forever" it takes time🤗/😬

[@hemispheres500]

To understand this world will need you to get a new skill. The book Making sense of nonsense by Raymond Moody is the most important book ever written. It is teaching humanity a new skill that may appear to seem like a pointless skill to learn, but that is just to keep ignorance away. Wisdom can see the wisdom of learning to understand things that do not currently make sense to you. God's LAW (love and wisdom) to you all. RW ❤️ 🙏

[@saritaniraula754]

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[@Paseosinperro]

I like Rupert but he doesn’t seem to be comfortable with people fully emoting their feelings. That’s why I, being also a person with a lot of energy, prefer to go to a Tantra or energy friendly space. I think that’s a shame because Rupert is a great teacher.

[@thetranquilview5600]

That’s because Rupert is teaching the direct path ..he doesn’t teach to give attention to feelings or anything seemingly objective, he’s teaching to give attention to consciousness and to remember who you are.. no need to get rid of anything ❤

[@pawellemanski1866]

I noticed this when i did a mushroom trip ..afterwards i would get bouts of nervous system being super electric..like my system is purging old stuff..there definitely samskras

[@kathyryan7611]

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[@mattB94]

Can someone tell me exactly what her samskara was? Very curious considering he is saying she might never get free from it

[@widipermono229]

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[@seantitan5542]

I don’t know if what he is saying is 100% true when he says “the realignment of the body and the mind goes on forever”. If that were true, than what would the perfect body and mind look like in contrast with the fact it can never “get there”?

[@seantitan5542]

I 100% agree with you on your entire point in the 1-2 paragraphs you’ve wrote. I do also think human intuition within each of our minds is something we shouldn’t discard completely. We only know this life, in reality. We don’t know anything else. From the scientific methods’ point of view even all things conceived are only hearsay. That’s one positive about awakening is fear is humorous, really.

[@seantitan5542]

@@joajoajb This conversation makes me think like this video does..>>>> kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5aulGihnLWJqKM

[@seantitan5542]

@@joajoajb There are many meditation practices and a lot of them are very useful. Then there are some that are not from my point of view. You say that if you were to hypothetically claim reality is the substance of all experiences prior to self consciousness/knowledge that you would then have already objectified it, but I think otherwise. You can only experience yourself as something, nothing and everything. Throughout life, if you have experienced yourself as all of those dimensions you would have self knowledge, self consciousness or self awareness through all of those apparitions of experience. I know that sounds odd, wild and far fetched. But if truth be told those 3 cogs of perception are the only cogs we can look through to experience this experience. So getting back this point im making. The "you" that would have objectified it is not solid. It changes. You can know what something is not with much more intelligence than you can know what something is. Yes, we can affirm consciousness distorts the Absolute Existence and we know this by leaving the dimension of physicality and dwelling in nature and it's rejuvenation of our being.

[@nicetalkintoya]

I don't believe the body/mind can ever be completely free of its residues. It will never be perfect. The residues may thin out, but they will never disappear while the body/mind lives. It's part of the nature of how the body/mind works to survive - it's patterns, categories, associations, etc. The body/mind will always use the past to survive the present and future, and suffering will ensue to some extent. But, someone said it's about "freedom IN suffering," not freedom from suffering. It's the example of Jesus's life, and I believe it's what Rupert is pointing to with this lady. Also, Underhill eloquently stated: "The mind which thinks it knows Reality because it has made a diagram of Reality, is merely the dupe of its own categories." I agree with her and take that as meaning a limited body/mind can never know what the Absolute knows or does not know (with all due respect to Nisargadatta or any guru who states otherwise).

[@squamish4244]

In practice, for most of us. In the Tibetan model, for elite practitioners, full-time yogis and retreatants, the realignment of the mind and body go on until total purification, which equals full enlightenment. Some people become fully enlightened while they are alive. More often, this happens at death, when liberation from the body provides a unique opportunity to liberate the mind completely. It's also when the true level of realization of a practitioner is seen for observers. There is a phenomenon known as the Rainbow Body by which practitioners' bodies shrink away to nothing over a period of days when they die, indicating they have completely purified the bodymind. This happens about once a year in the Tibetan Buddhist areas of Asia. Even higher and rarer realization means the body disappears at the moment of death. Even higher than that, the person does not die at all but their body dissolves into light while they are alive.

[@1bradpickett]

Samskaras are in the mental body not the deep recesses of our mind.

[@clarkkent3730]

The holy refiner fire of faith, will boil the demons right out of your blood up to the surface to be killed

[@robinaguenkel7534]

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[@dohaabdelrahman7161]

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[@christisgod71320]

Jesus is the only way! Don't listen to this man, he will lead you to death! Call on Jesus, he will save you! 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[@martinwagner7361]

Time to grow up a little Vincent....🤭🙏 Blessings.

[@christisgod71320]

@@martinwagner7361 Exodus 20:3 You shall have no other gods before me.

[@martinwagner7361]

@@christisgod71320 Be still and know that great I AM. You know THAT statement from the Bible ? Exactly THAT is what Spira is teaching. He's teaching the ONLY statement in the Bible about GOD that can be DIRECTLY KNOWN about GOD in own firsthand experience..... And yet you write this nonsense about teaching death here, without a TINIEST clue about what you even write Vincent. And you know NOTHING about GOD by any direct own firsthand experience. But only by some religious words that you - so obviously - do not even understand. And BECAUSE you have ZERO CLUE about GOD you try to hide your insecurities and cluelessness and steal usurped borrowed "authority" to PRETEND that you would have anything "authoritative" to say about GOD. But you SHALL NOT LIE. Obviously that Commandment doesn't interest you at all because you alreasdy LIED in your very first Comment. Actually even a blasphemous LIE since you claimed the great biblical expression about GOD "I AM that IAM" that Spira is teaching constantly would be "teaching death".....🤭😋 But in our impeccable Forgiveness we extend mercy to an ignorant blasphemous LIAR like you closing with the words : Father forgive Vincent for he just doesn't have any clue what he's doing......🙏 But it's not yet over with that Vincent.....🧐 For you directly violated another great biblical commandment: You shall NOT judge ! Especially NOT what you have no clue at all about...... So if you so deeply violate 2 central biblical Commandments already in the very first statement that you utter that gives the very bad impression that you are just a phoney HYPOCRITE that doesn't care any real damn about what the Scriptures that he pretends to "care for", "that he calls OTHERS to obey actually SAY. That now gives the whole community even a very bad impression about the state of lawless "Christians" like you that violate & disobey Christ to the utmost possible extent for isn't it WRITTEN : Whatever you do even to the very LEAST among you do to God, to Christ, to the "other" and to yourself ! Vincent, Vincent..... you really seem to be head over heels covered completely by Sin....🥶😱😳 Confess your sins, repent and ask our gracious Forgiveness to your grossly sinful transgressions....🙏 For I guess EVERYONE now can sense the smell of sulphur approaching you and the 🔥🔥🔥 coming inevitably closer too. But in this time of great peril there's still an undeserved chance of mercy available to you : Take refuge in Spira's teaching of LIFE eternal and LEARN to be STILL ! 🙏 That actually offers a great chance to reduce your sinful transgressions to a TERRIFIC DEGREE - besides many other great gifts....😇👌 Be still and KNOW the great I AM that I AM.... Be still and know GOD....🙏 Experience for yourself the "Peace beyond ALL understanding"....🙏 Experience firsthand yourself what IS meant "by FIRST find the Kingdom of Heaven WITHIN you".... For exactly THAT IS what Spira truly teaches. I hope you by now notice your spiritual inadequacy Vincent - and I even hope even more so that you really decide to do something about it.....🙏 Even great spiritual Masters do - usually - NOT fall just from the Heavens but gradually - with great patience and perseverance - emancipate themselves from the Dictates of the REAL Antichrist - the human Ego that can ONLY be transcended by abiding in the stillness of pure choice less Awareness beyond the Mind/Ego..... For THIS ☝️ is meant when Christ said : No one can come to the Father ( the great Stillness of I AM that I AM ) except by following me (into that Stillness of I AM that I AM).... As that stillness alone can and eventually WILL purify the Mind from its agitations, fearful frenzy, antichrist impulses and obsessions.... Because you CAN'T enter the Kingdom of Heaven WITHIN by your thoughts, not even with your very holiest thoughts Vincent.... For the unassailable true Kingdom of Heaven within is ENTIRELY & TOTALLY beyond all thoughts FOREVER. Thoughts essentially belong to the realm of Duality that can only exist by the power of the stillness that the biblical "be still and know GOD, know that I AM that I am" invites you to explore and get to know. And there's a clear and deep reason for that invitation to know GOD..... For stillness BEYOND all Duality of mind IS the ONLY access point into the UNITY of GOD that in truth and reality IS available to every human Being. It doesn't say you're a human thinking.....or a human doing.....but a human BEING made in the very image of GOD'S BEING - that pure BEINGNESS can ONLY & ONLY be experienced in that stillness beyond the Mind/Ego that usually SEPARATES man from GOD. It's in this Stillness of "be still and KNOW GOD, the great I AM that I AM where the TRUE & REAL Meeting place of Man & GOD IS. And ONLY THERE. Therefore this is so utmost crucial to understand and to practice..... Because as Christ has truthfully taught and mentioned there is NO other way, no other access point to meet GOD than in this stillness beyond the Mind/Ego. Good luck in becoming still to know GOD.....🙏

[@christisgod71320]

@@martinwagner7361 Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

[@christisgod71320]

@@martinwagner7361 Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.