A Disney Villains Retrospective, Part 30: Judge Doom (Who Framed Roger Rabbit)

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Colin LooksBack

Colin LooksBack

Күн бұрын

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In this entry, we're shining a light on the dark side of Toontown with Judge Doom and the Toon Patrol from Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988).
0:00 Original Book/Movie Development
2:36 Early Villain Ideas
5:00 Judge Doom
11:18 The Toon Patrol
16:48 Deleted Villains
18:15 Comics
23:40 Video Games
27:25 Theme Parks
32:13 Unproduced Prequels
35:33 Toontown Online
SOURCES
YESTERWORLD ENTERTAINMENT
• The Complicated Histor...
NES GAME
• Who Framed Roger Rabbi...
AMIGA GAME
• Amiga Longplay [197] W...
GAME BOY GAME
• Who framed Roger Rabbi...
FAMICOM GAME
• [Famicom Disk System] ...
ROGER RABBIT'S CAR TOON SPIN
• [4K] Roger Rabbit's Da...
• Roger Rabbit's Cartoon...
• [MAY 2023] Roger Rabbi...
• Jazz Singer Big Bad Wo...
MICKEY'S TOONTOWN WELCOME BLAST
• 1993 Mickey’s Toontown...
JUDGE DOOM AT DISNEYLAND
• Judge Doom at Oogie Bo...
• Judge Doom from "Who F...
TOONTOWN ONLINE
• Toontown - Cog Building
• Toontown Online - Figh...
• Under New Management S...

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@ColinLooksBack
@ColinLooksBack Ай бұрын
A quick word of explanation for everyone asking about Bonkers: I understand where you're coming from, but I would prefer to give him his own episode with the rest of the Raw Toonage characters. The Disney Marsupilami is so different from the original comic that I think he "fits" in with my ruleset. There are also apparently some villains in the Shnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show (which I have never actually watched, so I could be entirely wrong). Maybe I'll stick Quack Pack in there, too. I feel like as we get more TV series, we'll have more entries that cover multiple ones at once.
@McForkCoverup2005
@McForkCoverup2005 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that seems like a fair enough approach. Since Raw Toonage has had multiple spin-off shows, I think putting all of those together for a video is a smart decision, especially since individually they would probably be really short anyway.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
Putting all the “Misc” Disney Afternoon shows together (maybe even Goof Troop unless it ends up in the Gaston video) is a good idea.
@KaizokuGaeru
@KaizokuGaeru Ай бұрын
Sounds like a good plan. The way I see it, shows that have few villains or one villain (Proud Family, Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, etc) can be bundled while those with an overarching plot and many major villains (American Dragon Jake Long, Wonder Over Yonder, etc) can easily be standalone ones. Could make up for the modern era having no villains or few less than stellar ones.
@BigBossMan538
@BigBossMan538 Ай бұрын
You have your work cut out for you, huh?
@nicholassims9837
@nicholassims9837 Ай бұрын
For your next video will you count a certain poodle to be a villain
@Hanyoumaru
@Hanyoumaru Ай бұрын
Something I find the most amusing of all in this series is that the creator of the original book seemed to think that the movie was such an improvement that he actually rewrote the entire book to match the film better. THAT is how you know you made a great movie.
@susanaalmeida593
@susanaalmeida593 Ай бұрын
Something similar happened with the author of The Brave Little Toaster. When the film based on his book came out, the author loved the movie so much that it inspired him to write the sequel, The Brave Little Toaster Goes to Mars and he wrote the characters to more closely match the personalities of their film counterparts.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Ай бұрын
If I recall Gary Wolf himself retconned his own book with another to say it was all a nightmare of Rogers.
@MariuigiKhed
@MariuigiKhed Ай бұрын
Sometimes Disney manged to adapt something like that, shame it was once every blue moon
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 Ай бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 This is because, when he created the original book, he was basing more on the popularity of Newspaper Comics like Peanuts and Garfield. This is why the original book had toons speak with word balloons, which Disney felt is a waste of space to have it happen every time they speak; so, like some of the toons in the original book, all the toons in the movie got rid of the speech balloons completely. Also, there's a literal reason Jessica Rabbit is a sex symbol in the original book: she was a sketch drawn in a Tijuana bible called "Lewd, Crude, and in the Mood". One last thing to note, Judge Doom being a Toon disguised as a human is an actual thing in the book; it's called "Crossing Over".
@gooeydude574
@gooeydude574 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Captain Underpants movie and how there’s were things in the movie that Dav Pilkey wished he did in the books
@enoughothis
@enoughothis Ай бұрын
Judge Doom's most widely seen appearance was in the nightmares of millions of children.
@SpookyScarletShadow
@SpookyScarletShadow Ай бұрын
So true-
@DarkSpriteGirl
@DarkSpriteGirl Ай бұрын
Indeed, he was my childhood fear. Now I have an autograph of Christopher Lloyd upon the head of a Judge Doom Funko lol.
@missamieholly2313
@missamieholly2313 Ай бұрын
Including mine. He's scared the absolute crap out of me
@Lionstar16
@Lionstar16 Ай бұрын
Yeah, him and the Wicked Witch of the West from Wizard of Oz *shudder*
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Ай бұрын
Between Doom and his role in Dennis the Menace, it took me quite a long time to appreciate Lloyd, he's way too good as a villain 😂
@benjamingesinski9170
@benjamingesinski9170 Ай бұрын
The idea of Judge Doom being resurrected gave me an idea where Doom comes back in the modern era and finds that his Dip doesn't work on modern cartoon characters because they're computer generated graphics instead of being made from ink and paper. So maybe instead Doom creates a computer virus that causes the cgi characters to glitch until they break down.
@gooeydude574
@gooeydude574 Ай бұрын
Damn that makes sense
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
I think on more modern characters, their CG layer works as a “shield” so to speak; once the shield is down? You can dip them. Or maybe you dip them but they survive so you have to kill them with normal methods.
@gandalflotr2898
@gandalflotr2898 Ай бұрын
I would like to see one of Eddie's Grandchildren become a detective
@megacrashthehedgehog5377
@megacrashthehedgehog5377 Ай бұрын
That's actually not a bad idea.
@becca7946
@becca7946 12 күн бұрын
That rocky and Bullwinkle movie did something similar, they even reference Roger rabbit
@user-vt8kz1ll7b
@user-vt8kz1ll7b Ай бұрын
A real cool detail is Doom’s cloak constantly blowing in the wind wherever he goes, even being indoors.
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry Ай бұрын
Basically what Darth Vader does with the force, since they're both dramatic as hell XD
@racheljackson4428
@racheljackson4428 Ай бұрын
clever detail.
@kylemorello4787
@kylemorello4787 Ай бұрын
"The shoe is childlike." More like a puppy dog! Look at him snuggling against Doom's leg, and running away when he sees he's in trouble. Not to mention his whimpering when being dipped.
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 Ай бұрын
Kids often do that to. Especially toddlers. But yeah it is doglike In certain aspects
@kylemorello4787
@kylemorello4787 Ай бұрын
@@chloenieuwsma4846 either way, it's horrific to see such an innocent shoe get executed. I just said that about a piece of footwear. 😕
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry Ай бұрын
​@@kylemorello4787 If it's anthropomorphic, it's easier to sympathise.
@kylemorello4787
@kylemorello4787 Ай бұрын
@@purplepedantry magic of cartoons. Smile, darn ya smile. Or, in this case, cry, darn ya cry, I guess.
@ginocanterino258
@ginocanterino258 Ай бұрын
​@@purplepedantryit's easier to others. Lucky for me the common sense of knowing none of this characters is real nor feel anything may it be pain or any kind of emotion is enough to not feel anything for them. After all they're nothing but drawings, inanimate object just like a table or a chair (the only difference is that at least tables and chairs are real and you can interact with them in the real world)
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 Ай бұрын
Roger Rabbit is one of those rare times where the film adaptation improved the story so much that even the author admitted they told it better
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 Ай бұрын
I've seen video of that Halloween show. Every single one, the crowd GASPS when they realize what he's pulling out. That's how you know what a mark Doom left on the subconscious.
@beauwalker9820
@beauwalker9820 27 күн бұрын
That scene creeped out many children of the 80s and 90s. (And beyond.) I remember as a kid thinking the red paint from the dissolved toon shoe on his glove was blood. Kudos to bringing back an epic cruel villain.
@jamesa.romano8500
@jamesa.romano8500 Ай бұрын
I definitely think elements of Judge Doom made their way into Disney's later interpretation of the Frollo character
@abrahamaytemo
@abrahamaytemo Ай бұрын
How so
@jamesa.romano8500
@jamesa.romano8500 Ай бұрын
@@abrahamaytemo Mainly because Frollo is changed from a priest to a judge, which isn't the first time that has been done but the Disney version harbors a very specific homicidal hatred for an entire race of people that hadn't been shown before in any interpretation of the character, and it strongly resembles Doom's hatred for toons, with even Frollo's speech to Phoebus crushing the ants looking similar to Doom's demonstration of how dip works on the shoe toon. But saying that I'm not claiming that Doom was the only inspiration as I've also heard Dr. Terwilliker from The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T, Amon Goeth from Schindler's List, Judge Turpin from Sweeney Todd, Haman, Tomas de Torquemada, and most obviously Cedric Hardwicke's Frollo in the 1939 Charles Laughton film factored into the character considerably
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
I also see the possibility the Eight Gentle Judges (Megaman Zero 3) were inspired by him.
@KammybRich7000
@KammybRich7000 Ай бұрын
I always have wondered if Esmeralda's festival dance wasn't in part some kind of homage to Jessica Rabbit's nightclub performance (even her toying with Frollo and flirting with Quasimodo in the crowd seems like a callback Jessica's going into the audience to do the same thing to Marvin Acme and Eddie) EDIT: Marvin Acme not RK Maroon lol
@Koopalingfan
@Koopalingfan Ай бұрын
I don’t think so because the novel and the portrayal of Jehan Frollo in the 1939 film such a good movie were his inspirations.
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 Ай бұрын
The movie was so good the creator of the book made a sequel retconing the first book as a bad dream Jessica had.
@Zacman1123
@Zacman1123 Ай бұрын
That's hilarious.
@RakoonCD
@RakoonCD Ай бұрын
June Foray's line and delivery in the Queue for Car-toon spin is so darn good. "Benny knows the streets of toontown like the back of his treads."
@jessicahutton5830
@jessicahutton5830 Ай бұрын
Glad to see I’m not the only one who recognized June’s voice. She’s voiced so many characters in her long career, but for me there’s no mistaking the pipes of Ma Beagle from Ducktales and Grammi Gummi from Gummi Bears. RIP Mrs. Foray.
@devinpaul9026
@devinpaul9026 Ай бұрын
I LOVE the original names, but "Wise Guy Weasel" is still a great name for a toon, hadn't ever heard it before.
@mightyfilm
@mightyfilm Ай бұрын
What really makes that funny is that there's a censored TV edit of the movie that awkwardly replaces the Gorilla Bouncer's retort at Eddie, "Wise Ass" with "Wise Guy." Poorly, at that. Where as the bouncer's voice was a cartoonishly deep, the replacement voice actor was much higher pitched and very nasal.
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 Ай бұрын
If I was going to give him my own replacement name, what comes in mind for me is "Wisecrack".
@devinpaul9026
@devinpaul9026 Ай бұрын
@@e-mananimates2274 It flows better, but Wisecrack Weasel sounds like the character himself IS a wisecrack somehow. Wisecracker, maybe-- without the "weasel". Or, Wisecrackin' Weasel, but we already have a Pistol Packin' Possum in this universe, so they'd be kinda samey. But hey, enough about Hoskins! 🤣
@keshiaanders6452
@keshiaanders6452 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: The Toon Patrol weasels are some of the inspirations for the Gangreen Gang from "The Powerpuff Girls" (personality & dynamics wise).
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 Ай бұрын
Smartguy = Ace Greasy = Snake Psycho = Grubber Wheezy - Arturo Stupid - Big Billy
@keshiaanders6452
@keshiaanders6452 Ай бұрын
@@maurycyoseka1057 You're right about two of them, however... Greasy = Snake (long hair and second in command) Psycho = Grubber (because of the crazy eyes & lack of speech) Wheezy = Arturo (because Arturo has a raspy voice, sounding like he smokes)
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 21 күн бұрын
@@keshiaanders6452 But Arturo has a barber instrument just like Psycho, a pocket cone named "Maria".
@IrishKatana
@IrishKatana Ай бұрын
I kinda like the idea of Judge Doom being a former toon of a thousand faces, sorta makes him a shapeshifter and also allows him to keep his ambiguity.
@ColinLooksBack
@ColinLooksBack Ай бұрын
I like that idea, what I didn't like was that they showed him essentially "out of makeup" where he really does just look like Christopher Lloyd.
@tavvyprods1275
@tavvyprods1275 Ай бұрын
I had this idea of the Coachman from Pinocchio and Judge Doom being one and the same since the former doesn’t make many cameos outside of his movie. He doesn’t even appear in Once Upon A Studio.
@gregcourtney751
@gregcourtney751 Ай бұрын
The rumor I've heard is that an early idea in production is that Judge Doom was another classic Disney villain, the hunter from Bambi. Why not? We never see the hunter after all. He could have bulging eyes.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 21 күн бұрын
Neither did Fagin and Sykes, and I'm still complaining
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade Ай бұрын
34:32--"He's a back-alley surgeon who has something different in mind for our animated friends. Three words: Cartoon organ harvesting." Why did this make me immediately picture a cartoon version of "Repo! The Genetic Opera"? XD
@princeapoopoo5787
@princeapoopoo5787 Ай бұрын
This is a beautiful yet cursed mental image
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade Ай бұрын
@@princeapoopoo5787 Right?! I can't unsee it!
@danielsvetlichny5721
@danielsvetlichny5721 Ай бұрын
I thought the chimaera process in Fullmetal Alchemist is disturbing and even unwatchable (in the world of that series, it should be illegal.), but toon organ harvesting? It practically BLEW out of it.
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade Ай бұрын
@@danielsvetlichny5721 I've only seen that one scene from "Fullmetal Alchemist"--"That person Edward,"--and I was like, "Nope!"
@SoulKingdomCreator
@SoulKingdomCreator Ай бұрын
In Prop Culture, Christopher Lloyd says that he had to take multiple retakes to get the glint on his glasses right.
@Shadowluigi-pj9nq
@Shadowluigi-pj9nq Ай бұрын
Judge Doom is honestly one of the creepiest villians I've ever seen
@danielsvetlichny5721
@danielsvetlichny5721 Ай бұрын
Just imagine. If Doom and the Toon Patrol did indeed succeed in wiping Toontown forever, they would find out there were other Toons living in other parts of the world, including ones from Japan. They would do it without a heartbeat.
@stardragon5849
@stardragon5849 Ай бұрын
That would be a grave disaster if it's really happening. Especially with both France and Japan (one started the history of animation and other is the popular influential)
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
And what if Judge Doom doesn’t stop at toons? Maybe he gets fed up with most of humanity, and creates a human-equivalent to Dip?
@princeapoopoo5787
@princeapoopoo5787 Ай бұрын
I'm pretty firm against Disney remakes/sequels overall, but I would not say no to another film set in a universe like this with this concept, especially as the animation industry has changed since then and international animation is more beloved. Though I guess that new Rescue Rangers movie kind of fits that "toon human hybrid" mold and that didn't look interesting to me.
@gianlucacolangelo6578
@gianlucacolangelo6578 Ай бұрын
​@@austinreed7343 isn't the human equivalent of Dip normal Sulphuric Acid?
@masedaace5473
@masedaace5473 Ай бұрын
​@austinreed7343 Who needs it? He's already an invincible shape shifter. As long as humans don't figure out how to make Dip themselves, he could wipe them all out himself.
@BigBossMan538
@BigBossMan538 Ай бұрын
Roger should've been in that Once Upon a Studio short. He's an honorary WDAS character since so many Disney animators worked on both WFRR and the Disney Renaissance films
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
Him and Merida were both technically eligible and would have fit pretty damn well.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
There’s some legal issues surrounding the usage of the character, split between Disney, Amblin, and author Gary K. Wolf. It’s extremely difficult for all three parties to agree on things, which explains why Roger is hardly used that much anymore. Most we’ve gotten as of late was his brief cameo appearance in the 2022 “Rescue Rangers” film, which I imagine was a compromise between all three rights holders.
@garveyneal1672
@garveyneal1672 Ай бұрын
Ever wonder if Judge Doom a.k.a gets Reanimated with his toon form as a cross between Christopher Lloyd's other animated villains such as Rasputin from Don Bluth's Anastasia, The Hacker from PBS Kids' Cyberchase, and Merlock from Ducktales: The Legend of the lost lamp?
@babyrodent
@babyrodent Ай бұрын
So glad that you got to mention Judge Doom's appearance at Oogie Boogie Bash last year! I got the chance to attend with his Treat Trail was the first one that I decided to visit when the event started since it was anticipated. His mere presence alone was enough to make ME feel fear as someone who grew up with the movie. Then he pulled the shoe out to "dip" and it solidified why he was a smash hit that year.
@danielsvetlichny5721
@danielsvetlichny5721 Ай бұрын
6:35 - Essentially, the Blot from Epic Mickey is best described as a living and breathing Dip with the aura of Chernabog, the glee of Maleficent and the destructive joy of the Firebird. 13:15 - Psycho and alongside Wheezy are the few members of the Toon Patrol that stood out to me, personally. 17:14 - Now this character would be an excellent Blotling type in the Epic Mickey games. 17:33 - I actually used that character and his name to my own character for a certain Japanese animated series in which I am enamoured with.
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle Ай бұрын
And, of course, the name of one of Mickey's most revered archnemeses, the Phantom Blot. Interesting how this version is essentially a mishmash of villains and hazards.
@gojirafan0577
@gojirafan0577 Ай бұрын
Like I said with The Brave Little Toaster about it having a place in animation history, the same can be said about Who Framed Roger Rabbit but times it to 100. The film was responsible for many things. -It was what gave Richard Williams the chance to finally make what would’ve been his magnum opus, The Thief And The Cobbler to a more mainstream audience (for better and for worse). -It was what made Spielberg more interested in animation, with creating animation studios at first with Amblimation and then alongside Jeffrey Katzenberg,formed Dreamworks Animation. -It was the film that Disney desperately needed back in the late 80s and was ultimately one of the reasons for the Disney Renaissance. And -It also made Warner bros more interested in making their own animated films, with movies such as Space Jam and The Iron Giant. So all in all, it’s safe to say that Who Framed Roger Rabbit left a huge impact for the animation industry, we really need another film like Roger Rabbit in this day and age for the animation industry.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t just Warner Bros. It’s also what convinced various networks to start producing their own original cartoon shows - notably Nickelodeon, which gave rise to the competition in Fox and Cartoon Network. In a way, a good chunk of the ‘90s renaissance of western animation owes itself to the success of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”.
@eggmannega6895
@eggmannega6895 Ай бұрын
Something much better than that Roger Rabbit wannabe Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
@@eggmannega6895 I think “Rescue Rangers” is probably the closest we’ll get these days to a proper Roger Rabbit followup. No other film released since then has come close to matching it, and times have changed so much that it just can’t be duplicated the same way anymore.
@KaizokuGaeru
@KaizokuGaeru Ай бұрын
Ah yes Judge Doom, another of those animated live action villains. I’d say he’s among one of the best, with Narissa from Enchanted being a close second for me.
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide Ай бұрын
Are there that many to begin with?
@KaizokuGaeru
@KaizokuGaeru Ай бұрын
⁠@@AlejandroigarabideNot much, which makes them a rarity. There’s a good amount of Tron villains like the MCP, Nome King, the Valley Gang from Chip n Dale’s movie, Thanos (who’s ineligible), Davy Jones, Salazar, and a handful of Planet of the Apes baddies (also off limits). Sadly most will likely not be covered, even Colin is unsure if a Pirates video is worth it.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
@@KaizokuGaeru Many of them are presented as “real” in universe which makes it even more ambiguous.
@KaizokuGaeru
@KaizokuGaeru Ай бұрын
This also raises the question of Enchanted too. There’s just Narissa and her goon. While the mediocre sequel has villains, but were live action actors. Unless we count Giselle having her villain arc in her own slot.
@Koopalingfan
@Koopalingfan Ай бұрын
I feel the same way.
@stormstrider1990
@stormstrider1990 Ай бұрын
I never saw Roger Rabbit as a kid, but after every time the Nostalgia Critic has mention this movie in the past, and reviewed it only recently, I can totally believe Judge Doom was one evil and scary motherfucker. He traumatized children in the 80's, made one hell of a final boss in the NES game, and is still talked about on KZbin.
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 Ай бұрын
18:29 - 22:03: It's very likely that Judge Doom was "Pistol Packin' Possom", given the evidence within the movie. 1. He hangs around with a bunch of weasels that are gangsters. 2. He's a Toon that likes to commit murder. 3. Eddie said that the murderer had a high-squeaky voice, which is what Doom has upon his reveal as a toon. 4. The Toons listed out numerous things he could've been but isn't; one of the things they didn't rule out is most likely Possum. 5. Doom assassinated R.K. Maroon with a gun that looks exactly like the one on the "Pistol Packin' Possom" poster. 6. Speaking of the poster, Judge Doom's real eyes show he has white eyeballs with red irises, which Eddie mentioned previously. The poster has the Possom having similar eyes.
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry Ай бұрын
It's one of the better theories out there, and I'd certainly take it over the comic version! :D However, I would say it might be a bit hard to fully prove it was planned from the start. :(
@Kingcj2001
@Kingcj2001 Ай бұрын
I feel that if Doom's identity had to be explored, it should've been done in a way that opened more mysteries. I'd have gone down the route of making Doom some unfinished animated cell. In his truest form, Doom would resemble an inkblot with blazing red eyes. Being an unfinished cell would make Doom malleable and able to morph is body into all sorts of things, which we've seen. Just me spitballing.
@WhiteDarkness3113
@WhiteDarkness3113 29 күн бұрын
I find your idea to be ..... Logical !
@MeliesCinemagician
@MeliesCinemagician Ай бұрын
So you're telling me that Judge Freaking Doom - one of the scariest animated villains of all time - was originally going to be played by Tim Curry... and he was passed up for being TOO scary?! What on Earth must that audition have been like?!
@mafeuk
@mafeuk Ай бұрын
Same thing with the Joker in Batman the animated series
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 Ай бұрын
Another hint that Doom is a toon is when Eddie spills the dip canister in the bar and Doom backs away almost like he's afraid
@MichaelKilley
@MichaelKilley Ай бұрын
Judge doom is one of my favourite villains in the world of cartoons.
@quiggc1
@quiggc1 Ай бұрын
Glad to hear you’re going back to Sykes next
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Ай бұрын
Yeah and I hope that he bring up Marlon Brando being the first choice
@therewillbefudd
@therewillbefudd Ай бұрын
Ok, the multiplane camera/model sheet resurrection is literally the cutest thing I've ever seen
@gingaddict
@gingaddict Ай бұрын
When you said that statement about the organs, I had to pause the video to say 'WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? And I thought the forcing characters to be bootlegged in Rescue rangers was bad!'
@user-oh4it9bo8s
@user-oh4it9bo8s Ай бұрын
I heard Christopher Lloyd say in an interview that Doom's clothes billowing and flapping, even when indoors where there wouldn't be a breeze, was meant to be a subtle hint to his unreal toon nature.
@JacobElyachar
@JacobElyachar Ай бұрын
Judge Doom is one of my all-time favorite Disney villains! Christopher Lloyd did a phenomenal job portraying this terrifying villain. I am glad that the Disneyland Resort added him to the Oogie Boogie Bash. I wish he was permanently around at all the parks.
@elmasterdezoologia6641
@elmasterdezoologia6641 11 күн бұрын
Fun fact: The detective in the "resurrection" comic is actually named Rick Flint. He replaced Eddie Valiant because the writers didn't have the rights to Bob Hoskins' likeness
@maxordman4100
@maxordman4100 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate how you covered the entire franchise of everything that is connected to Roger Rabbit even including the unmade prequel movie and the online games which are all very unique and intriguing. I came for Judge Doom but ended up getting so much more! Excellent job and I’m really looking forward to seeing the Oliver and Company video!
@jaggerguth4391
@jaggerguth4391 Ай бұрын
21:58 Or maybe... Buddy? I mean, remember the time he tries to Kill his former "Co-Stars" with a bomb once?
@clydenorthrup5484
@clydenorthrup5484 Ай бұрын
Are you referencing Animaniacs?
@jZ0357
@jZ0357 Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention about Hollywood Studios, the the old backlot attraction used to have many of the props from who framed Roger rabbit and canceled land that was going to be in Hollywood Studios supposedly somewhere near where rock ‘n’ roller coaster sits now
@hectorgabrielsanchez6929
@hectorgabrielsanchez6929 Ай бұрын
Pal Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman (RIP) voiced Roger Rabbit in early animation tests
@jonathanmartin9845
@jonathanmartin9845 Ай бұрын
I actually think that Doom's real identity being Baron von Rotten, and the backstory given in the comics could actually be tragic if given a bit if a rewrite in the Kingdom Hearts series. Like, the bomb going off in Rotten's face could actually be deliberately triggered by Organization XIII to brainwash him into thinking he was a real villain and take advantage of his natural Toon desire to make people laugh by manipulating him into creating his elaborate Dip Toontown scheme, lying to him that the death of every Toon in existence would be hilarious to them, neglecting to mention of course they can't feel anything since they lack true hearts. When he dies after he reveals his true identity, Sora would give him the mother of all Shut Up Hannibal speeches to him, pitying him for his accident, but condemning him for killing those closest to his friends just to please everyone else and for thinking that treating life as expendable as funny, only to realize that Doom was probably jealous of all other toons for being naturally funny compared to him that led to him being manipulated by the Organization in the first place, leading to a similar death scene to Envy's from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
@ajerjavec4723
@ajerjavec4723 Ай бұрын
About the cogs they are actually mentioned in DuckTales, 2017 episode the great dime chase Gyro shows his inventions that turned evil
@dracobird1987
@dracobird1987 Ай бұрын
Never kill a poor, innocent shoe. Lesson learned! Well, sort of.
@dianekier4641
@dianekier4641 Ай бұрын
13:40 he gives me brer bear vibes
@timothylyons1529
@timothylyons1529 Ай бұрын
1.only 2 parts away to renaissance villains 2. fun fact chip and dale rescue rangers aired day after Oliver and company freaky is it
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
It doesn’t seem that freaky.
@timothylyons1529
@timothylyons1529 Ай бұрын
@@geoffreyrichards6079 maybe freaky wasn’t the right to use but it was first word to pop into my head
@brookerickettson4950
@brookerickettson4950 Ай бұрын
Another great villain profile! As for Judge’s ID, I support the crazy possum suspect. The quick poster we see in the alley, has the possum shown to have the same eyes, and the crazy possum seems to prefer more violent weapons, like the missiles and knives we see in the Doom’s cartoony bits. Plus it was rumored that the possum was going to have a big role or similar but got canceled for being too violent/mean spirited. Thus motive against the head of the studio. Can’t wait to see you cover one of the most realistic villains in all of Disney!!
@Koopalingfan
@Koopalingfan Ай бұрын
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is such a underrated movie with such a relatable protagonist who has such a great and well written arc and the cartoon references are so nice and funny. The cgi is definitely very good, which is something that is taken for granted nowadays. But yes Judge Doom is a amazing villain and the twist of being the toon who killed Eddie’s brother is such a amazing twist, it’s sort of like the twist of King Candy being Turbo in disguise. I wonder if that was it’s inspiration. I’m pretty sure his plan was meant to be a reference to the Interstate Highway System and him melting a reference to the Witch melting from The Wizard Of Oz. He was also my introduce to Christopher Lloyd and he definitely did a good performance as Judge Doom. It’s impressive that Christopher Lloyd is still acting after fifty years, considering his age and really gives out the grandfather vibe in the modern movies. I hope he voices Toadsworth if he appears in the sequel to the Super Mario Movie, if not him than either Billy Crystal or JK Simmons or Kelsey Grammer.
@hannahmabbott7370
@hannahmabbott7370 Ай бұрын
Oliver and company! The fact that you're going to be doing sykes and his dobermans next is something i have always wanted to see. I like the fact that sykes ends up so unhinged that he actually tries to kill both a little girl and a street gang of dogs just for pure evil!
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 21 күн бұрын
Bro. That's not all. Sykes also knows ways to dispose of a body without getting his hands dirty. Surprisingly, throughout the whole film, he never uses his hands to abuse Fagin or Jenny, he only uses the objects around him and his Doberman.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
Here’s what I predict the next episodes will be: 31. Sykes (BONUS: Mizrabel) 32. Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers 33. Ursula/The Little Mermaid 34. Catch-Up #2 35. Darkwing Duck villains 36. Gaston (BONUS: Bradley Uppercrust III/Goof Troop) 37. Jafar 38. Oogie Boogie (BONUS: Sanderson Sisters) 39. Scar 40. Gargoyles villains 41. Misc. Disney Afternoon villains (Bonkers, Raw Toonage, Quack Pack, etc) 42. Toy Story villains 43. Ratcliffe (BONUS: James & the Giant Peach) 44. Frollo 45. Hades 46. One Saturday Morning This does make me wonder where other video-game-original villains go in the series. Mizrabel could work as a bonus villain for Sykes for example.
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 Ай бұрын
Well, that sound accurate, except for few things; Catch-Up videos are unpredictable. Bradley is from the movie made in the 2000s. And before Bradley there was Goof Troop with few villains: a pair of crooks, a bully, ringmaster jerk, Goofy's gangster doubleganger, and most memorable to me, Felton Sludge. Goof Troop villains, especially Bradley would have their own entry, along with Teamo Supremo supervillains. Since only Goof Troop would be too short. Sanderson Sisters are live-action, not animated. Quack Pack rouges gallery would probably appear in the catch-up video and maybe along with Goof Troop. Bonkers and Marsupilami from Raw Toonage probably are going to get a seperate entry. Since a video that is all about Gargoyles villains would be too short just like if Edgar and Amos Slade entries would be, John Ratcliffe would be a bonus in Gargoyles entry. James & the Giant Peach should appear in Oogie Boogie entry, since the undead pirate captain is modeled after Jack, a NBC character. Mizrabel was already mentioned in Maleficent entry. And it is not stacked chronologically.
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 Ай бұрын
Alright, what do you think of my predictions? 31. Bill Sykes and a BONUS villain(s) 32. Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers 33. Ursula 34. Gaston 35. Darkwing Duck 36. Jafar 37. Raw Toonage (Bonkers and Marsupilami) 38. Oogie Boogie and BONUS: James and the Giant Peach 39. Scar 40. Gargoyles and BONUS: John Ratcliffe 41. Toy Story 42. Frollo 43. Hades 44. Lord Dragonus and BONUS: Miss Finster 45. Shan Yu and Hopper 46. Clayton 47. Carnotaurus and Krom and BONUS: Teacher's Pet 48. Yzma and Kronk 49. Catch-Up video 2: Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck video game villains, Goof Troop with Bradley, Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass, Househorn Malice Draconia (Twisted Wonderland) Quack Pack, PK the Duck Avenger, Nightmare Ned, Lloyd in Space and Teamo Supremo. 50. Mr. Waternoose and Randall, Commander Rourke and BONUS: The Proud Family 51. Gantu and Hamstervile 52. Xenoheart 53. Dr. Drakken 54. Silver 55. Alameda Slim and BONUS: Skeleton King 56. Syndrome 57. Foxy Loxy, DOR-15, Dr. Callico and The Agent 58. Cars 59. Herbert P. Bear 60. Catch-Up video 3: Chuckles the Silly Piggy, Gaspar, Huntsman and Dark Dragon, Mr. Bedlum, Yin Yang Yo! and The Replacements 61. Pixar (The Barracuda, Chef Skinner, AUTO, Charles Muntz, Mor'du, Gloom (cancelled), Thunderclap, Ernesto Del La Cruz, Curse Dragon and Ercole) 62. Dr. Doofensmirtz 63. Dr. Facilier and BONUS: G-Force 64. Mother Gothel 65. Turbo and BONUS: Supervisor 66. Bill Cipher and BONUS: Hex 67. Catch-up video 4: Kazar, Queen Narissa, Frankenweenie, Valentino, Abraxas (Tron), Sorcerer and Hannibal McFist and Mizrabel (remake) 68: Cedric the Sorcerer and Elena of Avalor 69; Prince Hans and BONUS: Gadfly Garnett 70: Lord Hater and Lord Dominator 71: Star vs. The Forces of Evil 72: Dawn Bellweather, Moana and BONUS: Mormagnon (Rolling with Ronks) 73: Chip Whistler 74: The Core and Emperor Belos 75: Drunns and The Ghost and Molly McGee 76: Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur and El Ray Magnifico
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Ай бұрын
@@maurycyoseka1057 To be fair, the Sanderson Sisters have appeared in crossovers with animated villains.
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 Ай бұрын
@@austinreed7343 Okay. But that still doesn't count.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 21 күн бұрын
Oh boy, isn't Sykes such a great villain? :D
@cimengngialah2735
@cimengngialah2735 Ай бұрын
I love using cartoon as an expression, so puppetry and some character writing kind a makes it animated in a way.
@Tbone680
@Tbone680 Ай бұрын
I wish Disney and Warner Brothers would still be willing to work together like they did in this film😞
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
The recall the reason why they were so lenient back then was because neither studio were in the best of shape at that time. Disney was still recovering from a near bankruptcy and nearly shut down their animation studio after “The Black Cauldron” flopped. Likewise, Warner Bros. was nearly considering the same thing in regards to the Looney Tunes, who had been struggling for relevancy for the past few decades. Now that they’ve fully recovered and are trying desperately to milk their intellectual properties as much as possible, there’s likely not going to be another collaboration anytime soon.
@sirhenrymorgan1187
@sirhenrymorgan1187 Ай бұрын
3:07 While Jessica was absolutely a sexual awakening for many, I've also seen people express that they find her proportions so ridiculous that it becomes grotesque. Part of the joke with her character is just how exaggerated she is: her hourglass figure is so extreme that, if she were real, she'd fold in half and crumple under the weight of her own big breasts vs. her absolutely tiny waist vs. the wideness of her massive hips vs. the skinniness of her long legs. 5:18 Also, his perfectly-white plasticine teeth and skin are just as obviously fake as his unblinking eyes. Another detail that can be seen in Doom's costuming: his cape is ALWAYS flowing in the wind, even indoors, befitting a cartoon villain in black. Yet ANOTHER detail is just how stiff and awkward his movements are, as if he's stuck inside a human suit and just waiting to burst out. A smaller one is how he acts around dip, putting on an extra glove when dipping a shoe and backing away when dip gets spilled in the bar, but those could be explained away as just not wanting to get dirty/wet or something. 5:43 I love how Doom's evil plan all comes together in the end. He robs the bank so he can use the money to bribe his way into office, purchase the red car, invest in Cloverleaf, pay his weasel goons to do his dirty work, etc. All of it goes back to that fateful robbery, where he killed Eddie's brother during the getaway. 6:06 It should be noted that, both in the original book and this film, Toons are an allegory for African Americans. The Ink & Paint Club is a direct parody of the IRL Cotton Club, where black people could work as entertainers but never be served as guests. Toontown is a ghetto which is segregated from the rest of society. Doom's plan is to bulldoze Toontown to make way for a freeway and gentrify the area (after all, who cares about a buncha "subhuman" Toons anyways?). And part of what makes Jessica so mysterious and suspicious is that she's a humanoid Toon, aka "passing". Is she more on the Toons' side or the humans' side? Roger mentioning how there's "no justice for Toons anymore!" really hammers home the racism allegory. And how Roger refers to laughter as the only weapon Toons have in the face of adversity (while standing on a literal soapbox) further cements the theme of remaining hopeful and kind even when faced with tragedy. Eddie letting himself become so prejudiced and hateful after a Toon killed his brother made his life so utterly miserable (although his soft spot for Betty Boop and his horror at the shoe getting dipped prove he's not beyond redemption). 6:38 Fun fact: that shoe is voiced by Nancy Cartwrite, aka Bart Simpson. 9:23 That flat Doom effect is amazing for 1988! And speaking of eyes popping out, I like the detail of Doom holding a hand over his eye after slipping on marbles. Seems that the fall nearly knocked out one of his fake eyes, a last minute hint at his true nature.
@Rubberman202
@Rubberman202 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, classic movie! It's actually been a while since I've seen that movie, maybe I'll watch it with my mom on a weekend we're not busy. I remember watching it a lot as a kid and not fully understanding the plot, mostly because half of the plot is live action and I had a pretty short attention span when it came to anything live action as a kid. In fact, I almost exclusively watched animated stuff as a kid, which I guess explains my passion for animation as an adult. This movie gets a lot of love for the insane amount of crossover between so many different cartoon characters owned by different companies (it STILL feels surreal to see Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny on the same screen together, in an official capacity), but it manages to stay focused with a strong story with good characters. Man, though, I LOVE the concept of "toon logic" and "toon physics", and this movie plays with a lot of classic cartoon tropes, particularly where the villains and their not-so-secret weapon is concerned! Judge Doom himself, I remember him being a Toon was a big surprise for me, though I'm suppose any kid would be surprised watching this for the first time. See, to me, a "Toon" is wacky and colorful, while Doom was dark and restrained. Once he gets revealed as a Toon, he gets considerably more wacky, even if we never see what he truly looks like. As an adult, I now appreciate that even in the beginning there was always something "off" about him and his mannerisms. I also find his "boomerang bigotry" against his fellow Toons fascinating. He seems to show disdain for Toon, which makes me wonder if he truly hates them or just enjoys asserting his authority over them. He definitely gets annoyed when the Toon Patrol start laughing, though in that case it's more because he doesn't want them to laugh themselves to death. Oh, and then there's his plan to commit mass genocide against everyone in Toon Town just so he can build a freeway, which seems to be an in-joke based on the time period this movie takes place in, though the way he talks about his vision of a freeway is really... strange. It's like Eddie Valiant said, only a Toon would come up with a scheme this crazy. I also think it's a good move to give as little information about him as possible, up to and including not actually showing us what he really looks like; the mystery of who or what he even is makes him feel even more otherworldly and strange, enhance the creep factor behind him. Even still, I can't help but be a little curious about what kind of evil Toon he really was... I think the Toon Patrol is a nice little homage/throw-back to the weasels that originally appeared in The Adventures of Ichabod & Mr. Toad and subsequently made frequent appearances in Mickey Mouse-related media. The Chekhov's Gun of them laughing themselves to death is well-played, though the fact that Smartass, the most competent and restrained weasel actually dies from the Dip is actually rather disturbing. Heck, the Dip in general is a disturbing concept, it was easily one of the scariest concepts for me a kid, particularly after seeing that cute friendly Toon shoe get Dipped for no reason! Toon Logic dictates that Toons can survive almost anything thrown at them, and even if they do "die" like the weasels did, odds are they'll come back, same way characters killed in various Looney Tunes shorts often died but came back just fine in the next short. The permanence of being dissolved by the Dip is what makes Judge Doom and the Toon Patrol so dangerous and people to be avoided. I have to wonder though, would the Dip be as effective against Toons in the present day? The Dip is said to be a mixture of turpentine, acetone, and benzine, which are all paint thinners which, when combined in real life, can be used to wash ink off an animation cel. It makes that such a combination would be deadly to the Toons of old, but given that cel animation has fallen by the wayside in favor of digital animation, would it still work on Toons animated in that style? And that's to say nothing of 3D CGI Toons. Maybe I'm overthinking this... But hey, that's what we do around here.
@AnimeJason2011
@AnimeJason2011 Ай бұрын
Judge Doom is one scary dude. Evil to the core, who is more dangerous than all the corrupt corporate executives combined. His red eyes and high squeaky voice makes nails on a chalkboard feel like a girdling scream. Anyway, nicely done on this Disney Villain Retrospective video. And I know we are getting close to the villains of the Disney Renaissance themselves after the next video. I can't wait! 😁
@LilyBannel
@LilyBannel Ай бұрын
This movie is one of a kind. Many have tried but I don't think they got the balance of for kids and adults like Roger Rabbit has. Either they go towards the kiddie route i.e. Space Jam or too adult like Cool World. To be fair, there is merit within those movies but to me they're missed potential. Doom is a fine line between cartoonish and depraved. Any other bad guy dropping a piano on someone's head would be laughed out a room or questioned heavily. If Joker did that it could work I guess but not many would get away with that. Also Doom won in real life. That can't be said for most villains. LA is full of freeways now.
@AnaxErik4ever
@AnaxErik4ever Ай бұрын
The importance of “nightmare fuel” Judge Doom can not be understated. For Christopher Lloyd or for the larger animated media universe, as a kid in the 90s or as adults looking back on this “film noir with grown-up knowledgeable cartoons” style mystery. Nice to learn those facts about the Wind in the Willows weasels being rebranded as a goon squad for Judge Doom. I knew it was possible to die from laughter, but I didn’t know hyenas sometimes did that in nature before you said it.
@D.p663
@D.p663 Ай бұрын
Great video Collin. But didn’t the original book have a genie as the villain who murdered roger. I was surprised you didn’t discuss him
@jasonedwards8352
@jasonedwards8352 Ай бұрын
Other actors considered for Doom include F. Murray Abraham, Peter O'Toole, Sting, and Roddy McDowall. Christopher Lee turned it down. Christopher Lloyd compared it to his role of Commander Kruge in Star Trek III: the Search for Spock, as they were both overly evil and fun to play.
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain Ай бұрын
I'm surprised Judge Doom never said, "There's no kill quite like overkill" when he tries to kill Eddie Valliant in the film's climax. Too obvious? Maybe, but then again that's the point with Judge Doom. Even his very name lacks subtlety, just like a cartoon's calling card. The only things that were subtle about his character was the fact that he never blinked (I honestly missed that every time until you pointed that out, Colin) and that his clothes are constantly moving because of a fan from offscreen, even indoors, which Doug Walker pointed out as the Nostalgia Critic.
@nanazarkua8345
@nanazarkua8345 Ай бұрын
These Are The Episodes Of Disney Villains Retrospective We Need 80s 1)Oliver And Company 2)Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers (TV Series And Disney Plus Movie) 3)The Little Mermaid 90s 4)Beauty And The Beast 5)Darkwing Duck 6)The Muppets 7)The Rocketeer 8)Aladdin 9)Bonkers 10)Goof Troop (TV Show And A Goofy Movies) 11)The Nightmare Before Christmas 12)Hocus Pocus 13)The Lion King 14)Gargoyles 15)Toy Story (1, 2, 3, 4, Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command And Lightyear) 16)Castle Of Illusion 17)Pocahontas 18)The Hunchback Of Notre Dame 19)Hercules 20)Doug 21)Mulan 22)A Bugs Life 23)Tarzan 24)Recess 25)The Santa Clause 2000s 26)The Emperors New Groove 27)Atlantis The Lost Empire 28)Monsters Inc 29)Lilo And Stitch (Movies And TV Shows) 30)Treasure Planet 31)Kingdom Hearts 32)Kim Possible 33)Brother Bear 34)Finding Nemo And Dory 35)Pirates Of The Carribean 36)The Incredibles 37)The Proud Familly 38)American Dragon Jake Long 39)Cars (1, 2, 3 And Cars Toons) 40)Phineas And Ferb (Series, Movies, Milo Murphy's Law And Hamster And Gretal) 41)Ratatouille 42)Wizards Of Waverly Place 43)Meet The Robinsons 44)Bolt 45)Wall-E 46)Sky High 47)National Treasure 48)The Princess And The Frog 49)Up Pre 80s 50)Something Wicked This Way Come
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
Fagin is a villain.
@snic5143
@snic5143 Ай бұрын
Because who framed Roger rabbit is a Richard Williams film, I couldn't help but imagine that judge doom was just raggedy Ann and Andy standing on top of each other in a trench coat. (Then again judge doom could also be tack from the thief and the cobbler, wanting revenge for his film not getting finished).
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
Given that those films were released some decades after the events of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”, I can’t see why Tak would be wanting revenge for something that never happened yet.
@DreamDragoness25
@DreamDragoness25 Ай бұрын
I've grown up with this movie and I am always glad to see it get some love. I think the second Roger Rabbit film screenplay did get used to some extent in the Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers movie. Roger even made a cameo in the first ten minutes of the movie with his original VA voicing him. I know the Retrospective series is mostly on movies, but I hope you can do one on the villains of Gargoyles one day. That show has a lot of interesting characters such as the tragic Demona and the ever-calculating Xanatos who got his own trope created because of him. (The Xanatos Gambit)
@Thenumber1yoshi
@Thenumber1yoshi Ай бұрын
With Collin covering Roger Rabbit and Oliver and Company being next on the list, this retrospective has officially reached my birth year! Not too long until we’re covering the Renaissance era since that happened only a year after I was born!
@tigermoth00
@tigermoth00 Ай бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that Tokyo Disneyland has a Toon Town as well as Car Toon Spin, unedited! Jessica is still in her classic outfit. Additionally, two of the figures that are static in the American version, Roger right as you enter the gag warehouse, and the unnamed weasel, actually have motion in the Tokyo version. It's definitely the better of the two!
@misterniceguy429
@misterniceguy429 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: In an episode of the DuckTales reboot (the Great Dime Chase), in the scene where Gyro sees his lightbulb robot going psychotic, he pulls out a list of all his other inventions that went evil. The list does contain Gyro’s inventions from the original DuckTales show, one of the items listed are the cogs from ToonTown. While not a full on cameo, it’s still great that the game got some acknowledgment from Disney. The game didn’t get referenced in properties like Epic Mickey or Wreck It Ralph.
@RagathasLilAngel
@RagathasLilAngel Ай бұрын
Omg I was just re-watching some of ur older villain retrospectives (just finished the Captain Hook one) and seeing a new episode just now is a treat!
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide Ай бұрын
Fun fact: even if Smart Ass Weasel is never named on screen, for some reason the spanish dub decided to add a line where Doom calls him by name, and it's a different name (made up by whoever wrote the dub script): Sargento Cola Loca (Sargeant Crazy Tail).
@skug9bob
@skug9bob Ай бұрын
Really, the sequel comic should have had the four weasels who 'died laughing' revive Doom: as you said, toon logic means they should be back and fine in the next cartoon. And of course they will want revenge for the permanent dip-induced death of smart guy/wise guy/smart ass.
@Ireton06
@Ireton06 Ай бұрын
Excellent episode, definitely enjoyed seeing Judge Doom’s development. Thank you for this series
@DoneRandomLee
@DoneRandomLee Ай бұрын
Something i love of judge doom was what he meant on a meta level. Because the big technical achivement of the film was mixing animation with live action and the whole movie we got comfortable with the two interacting with each other. Judge doom on the other hand being both is offputting. It is the uncanny valley where it both looks like it fits but also doesn't. when his eyes are flashing colors or he is flying through the air. It really helps him stand out and being a threat to both sides
@AllTheMimsy
@AllTheMimsy Ай бұрын
Thank you for acknowledging the Pistol Packing Possum. That's my favorite Judge Doom theory.
@BrendonPatrickWatts
@BrendonPatrickWatts Ай бұрын
I'm so happy we've made it this far. Keep going!
@dandrelamay8273
@dandrelamay8273 Ай бұрын
Judge Doom will remain one of the best and most scariest Disney villains of all time. Also, can't believe that next episode will be the end of the Bronze Age. And its with a movie I watched on VHS when I was very young.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 21 күн бұрын
Sure, Judge Doom is the scariest, but no one is as dark and realistic as Bill Sykes.
@harleyhuskey
@harleyhuskey Ай бұрын
I love Toontown Online. I used to play all the time with my mom and collect the trading cards that would come in the mail. I still play time to time on Rewritten in which I actually got a higher laugh toon than I did as a kid lol.
@xylopiano3
@xylopiano3 Ай бұрын
34:20 It looks like the "Koko" they're referring to is Koko the Clown, a character created by Fleischer Studios who first starred in a series of shorts called "Out of the Inkwell" that combined animation with live-action footage, much like Roger Rabbit. Koko also went on to appear in many Betty Boop cartoons as one of Betty's friends. It would have been so cool to see him in a Roger Rabbit sequel.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Ай бұрын
He technically appeared in the first film, though they seemed to have disguised him a bit by giving him different shaped hair and a colorful suit. My guess is maybe they thought they had the rights to the character but had to change him in the animation process to avoid copyright infringement. Kinda ironic now, given that the character is now largely in the public domain.
@Sandlot1992
@Sandlot1992 Ай бұрын
the scene where Judge Doom puts the poor helpless toon shoe into the Dip traumatized me!
@J.J.Doethe3rd
@J.J.Doethe3rd Ай бұрын
I haven’t finished the video yet (I’m sure it’ll be very good!), I wanted to mention something that I thought even since you talked about Judge Doom’s link with Man. You say that we don’t know what cartoon Judge Doom is really and while it’s true it’s never said explicitly, there’s a hint that could reveal it. In the office of Maroon, there’s a poster of a movie called Pistol Packin Possum, which is a original character with red eyes and a revolver. Heck when Doom kills Maroon, Eddie notices his gun with the reflection on the poster, which aligns perfectly with the gun Possum is holding. So my and some other people’s theory is that Doom is actually Possum Edit: I see you mentioned it! Oopsie ^^’
@SpacialRend7
@SpacialRend7 Ай бұрын
I can understand Tim Curry being too scary for the role of Judge Doom. It’s kinda hard to imagine Tim not being in a villainous role, let alone a scary one at that because he’s known for playing antagonistic characters.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Ай бұрын
Ironically he voiced Nigel Thornberry from the Wild Thornberry’s a definite good and lighthearted character.
@nicholassims9837
@nicholassims9837 Ай бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 As well as Clamitious from JImmy Neutron who is a rather silly villain
@Koopalingfan
@Koopalingfan Ай бұрын
Tim Curry also voiced Forte from Beauty And The Beast The Enchanted Christmas, who is both a manipulative villain like Emperor Palpatine and threatening at the same time and played the Butler from Clue and the Concierge from Home Alone 2, who are both comedic reliefs. Forte was my introduction to Tim Curry. I hope he voices Krusha in a Donkey Kong Movie.
@SpacialRend7
@SpacialRend7 Ай бұрын
@@Koopalingfan For me, my first introduction of Tim Curry was a character he played in the Hanna-Barbera series, The Greatest Adventure: Stories from the Bible, as the Serpent from The Creation video.
@Koopalingfan
@Koopalingfan Ай бұрын
@@SpacialRend7 That’s nice.
@professorfreddy7452
@professorfreddy7452 Ай бұрын
I heard a rumor that an uncredited Corey Burton did the high pitched voice of Doom. It probably isn’t true but does sound interesting and shows Burton’s underrated range. Also can’t wait for the Oliver & Company video to be incredibly short compared to the other hehe
@McForkCoverup2005
@McForkCoverup2005 Ай бұрын
Since Oliver and Company is an adaptation of Oliver Twist, the video will probably have at least some comparisons to the original story, which should be interesting. Kinda like with Prince John in the Robin Hood video.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Ай бұрын
Unless I’m missing something in between, next after Oliver is the little mermaid and we know full well that will be a big video.
@KaizokuGaeru
@KaizokuGaeru Ай бұрын
@@brandonlyon730Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers. While not as big as Little Mermaid will be, it’ll be hefty with the original show having some notable villains and the less well received movie.
@Thenumber1yoshi
@Thenumber1yoshi Ай бұрын
@@McForkCoverup2005The Lion King video should be pretty interesting in that department considering the Hamlet connection!
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Ай бұрын
@@Thenumber1yoshi Curious if Colin will also talk about the whole Kimba the white lion controversy. I hope he at least seen YMS’s video on the subject, showing that Kimba pretty much has nothing in common with the Lion king other then some very superficial things.
@sammyt7981
@sammyt7981 Ай бұрын
5:00 Judge Doom 11:18 The Toon Patrol 16:48 Deleted Villains 32:13 Unproduced Prequel 35:54 Cogs
@amojmarr
@amojmarr Ай бұрын
Roger Rabbit might be my favorite Disney Movie of all time, so this is a REAL a treat! Getting closure and closure to Urusla!
@AlexG-jk8tc
@AlexG-jk8tc Ай бұрын
Ah, Judge Doom. Arguably the MVP in the department of "They showed us this AS KIDS?!" stuff 😂
@foxonerd
@foxonerd Ай бұрын
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLY A ROGER RABBIT EPISODE
@Tbone680
@Tbone680 Ай бұрын
I wish Disney would do more with Roger Rabbit
@RageONTv
@RageONTv Ай бұрын
Love your videos . They are very well done and edited ❤
@kylekeller3398
@kylekeller3398 Ай бұрын
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is my most favorite Disney movie of all time!! I think the Toon Patrol weasels are not only evil, but also very funny!
@n.d.engleson6499
@n.d.engleson6499 Ай бұрын
28:48 Benny: HOLY SMOKES, ROGER! WE’VE BEEN DIPPED!!!!!
@AlexMartinez-gv7hy
@AlexMartinez-gv7hy 29 күн бұрын
Im pretty sure the other 4 weasels got dipped thanks to the emptying of the machine. At least their souls are saved
@JadedJada
@JadedJada Ай бұрын
I think the change to Jessica Rabbit's role in Car Toon Spin was less about her having a more "empowering" role, and more because seeing her in her sexy dress bound up in rope probably caused some scandal. Angry parents, weird fanboys, you know. That overcoat is very conservative by comparison, I'm just saying.
@ColinLooksBack
@ColinLooksBack Ай бұрын
There's probably some truth to that. The reason I talked about it from an empowerment angle is because that's how the press releases described the changes, or at least strongly implied it.
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain Ай бұрын
This is something of a pet theory I have, but since Jessica Rabbit was considered to be the villain in the movie at one point before it was wisely given to Judge Doom, I like to think that manga artist Hiromu Arakawa based the Homunculus Lust off of Jessica Rabbit and made her a villain and gave her jet black hair and a dress to match in her hit manga series Fullmetal Alchemist. I mean seriously, Lust looks and talks a lot like Jessica Rabbit so much so that at one point when I met Lust's English voice actress Laura Bailey at a convention, I actually filmed her saying the line "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way," and it was like I was hearing double.
@danielsvetlichny5721
@danielsvetlichny5721 Ай бұрын
The next thing you knew, you bump into Stephanie Sheh and say, 'Wasn't Nui Harime from Kill la Kill is Doom's reincarnation?'.
@92JazzQueen
@92JazzQueen Ай бұрын
Fun fact christopher lyod would later go to feature in a live action animated hybride game called toonstruck as the hero while tim cury the og doom canidate was the villain.
@animationunlimited2958
@animationunlimited2958 Ай бұрын
I wonder if the idea of a pet Vulture is the idea that inspirated the villain Taurus Bulba to have the same type of pet in Dark Wing Duck.
@ProfCoolio
@ProfCoolio Ай бұрын
My idea for a proposed sequel: Disney is in the process of making their latest movie, a live action remake of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”. One of the stage hands hears this is actually based on a true story, and wonders why nobody even offered Roger a chance to play himself. Turns out, people haven’t seen Roger in years and nobody knows what’s happened. I call it “Whatever happened to Roger Rabbit”
@tylerdiggs9174
@tylerdiggs9174 Ай бұрын
Great as always. Still holding out for the script to screen episode
@NicoAnimation
@NicoAnimation Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video! One of my top favorites, WFRR might've even been the first movie I ever saw in a theater. I was 4 when it came out on VHS in 1989.. we eventually wore the tape out we watched it so much. But once the scene of Doom's eyes popping out and revealing he's a toon, I was SO scared I'd run in the other room and hide until the Dip melted him! I'd also hide for the giant Ursula final battle at the end of Little Mermaid
@Vernydog92
@Vernydog92 Ай бұрын
Interestingly enough Robert Patrick was given the same direction to not blink in his role as the T1000. I find it interesting that these two villains have a LOT in common. Both of them are inhuman beings posing as humans. Both are shape shifters and BOTH have the ability to warp their arms or hands into weapons. Makes me wonder if the T1000 took some notes from Judge Doom because he scared the hell out of so many people.
@eldritchhummingbird
@eldritchhummingbird Ай бұрын
The Roger Rabbit book is really good. Thanks for recommending it!
@171QA
@171QA Ай бұрын
Great video.
@Duskool
@Duskool Ай бұрын
That comic version of Doom had something going for him, if they had made it that after his "accident" he couldn't go back to his real form anymore, which they shouldn't show to begin with, and could only take the forms of the previous villains he portrayed, with the only constant between them being his squeaky voice and red eyes, driving him mad and evil for not being able to be himself again.
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