"Accurizing" an AR | TPH63

Wade covers his perspective on what you should consider when building an AR for Accuracy.

[@jamesboyce9186]

I just bought a Ballistic Advantage Barrel in 6 ARC, I'm pleased to no end to hear you give them a nod, they are on sale for only 185 right now people, get them while you can, been waiting for a Black 18" for two months, I've been super unlucky for stock.

[@charlesludwig9173]

Everything there is to know about match conditioning an AR for the best accuracy was learned by the USAMU back in 1994 when they replaced the M14 with the M16A2 in US Service Rifle Competition. Essentially, a 2 stage trigger, free floating match grade barrel, conversion of as issued sights to 1/4 MOA value, adjustable front sight base, and small aperture in rear sight. Now, back in early 2000’s I was a CMP-USAMU Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM Training. My credentials for that work was US Distinguished Rifleman and American High Power Rifleman in Long-Range Award. So, after watching this video my highly qualified opinion is I think the authors are spot on about the whole matter, mostly don’t expect great results from a match conditioned rifle and match grade ammunition without having had some marksmanship training. The rub about that is who to go to for training? I’d say sign up for the USAMU’s Small Arms Firing School. It’s a 3 day annual event at CamPerry where Champion Military Shooters teach civilians how to shoot in Service Rifle Competition.

[@MarcusPheonixston]

love the podcost so much, has brought me new life .

[@LRRPFco52]

Recce Carbines: Recce carbines came from JSOC well before the M4 program was fielded. Guys on the Sniper Operations/Recce Teams spent a lot of time focusing on providing precision supporting fires for the Assaulters. These were all Sniper-trained guys who had been through SOTIC, SEAL Sniper School for NSW, and/or Quantico Scout Sniper Instructor Course who wanted accurate little Carbines, not run-of-the mill blasters with 4 MOA dispersion. These were used in addition to M21s and SR25s, which also had a lot of work done to them by Unit Armorers. In the late 1980s-early 1990s, JSOC elements in both the Army and Navy had their Unit Armorers accurize their Colt 723 and 727 Carbines with free-float tubes, Douglas or Lilja barrels, and topped with various optics ranging from Aimpoint 2000s to Hensoldts and Leupold LPVOs from the 1980s. The optic mounts were usually ARMS #2 or a featureless bit of rail that dropped into the carry handle slot. Others had the front portion of the carry handle machined off and a Weaver rail installed for the Aimpoint to be mounted lower and co-witness with the irons. Aimpoints were used a lot for rotary wing sniper support, where snipers remained in MH-60s providing overwatch for Assaulters, whereas the early LPVOs were used for more precise Sniper support. There was no specific standard for JSOC Recce carbines, and they all varied by Team and Squadron, who were all competing with each other to develop better solutions. They also mounted Own the Night configuration IR lasers on free-floated handguards to provide IR laser targeting, which worked both for helos and dismounted. Handguards were either 12” V-MATCH knurled aluminum or fiberglass with stainless threaded inserts for accessories. They were often front sight pocket cut for the FSB. PAQ-4Cs and early Wilcox LAMs were used well before the PEQ-2A came out. These carbines were often suppressed. Ammunition was 68gr or 69gr Match, in addition to M855. When the M4A1 started fielding in 1993-1994, the Recce configuration guns used some of the older accessories and features with the new flat-top railed uppers, and eventually new free-float handguard options were primarily sourced from KAC. One was the MRE to replace the modified tubular free float handguards used before, which solved the problem of the FSB pocket cut installation while still retaining the front iron sight. The other KAC quad rail eliminated the FSB and used a low profile gas block. There are all sorts of variations of Recce carbines in the post-M4A1 era. The Schmidt & Bender Short Dot LPVO was a Unit-specific request that became very popular in the 2000s, replacing a lot of the older 1980s-era LPVOs. SPR: Other soldiers who were in SOCOM occasionally saw JSOC guys with these carbines, and wanted a similar capability for the DM role within SF ODAs and SEAL Platoons. NSW Crane and USAMU answered that requirement with the Mk.12 Special Purpose Rifle using old stock M16A1 lower receiver groups, mated with 2-stage match triggers from different companies, M4 uppers, Douglas 18” RLGS select match barrels, the PRI flip-up front sight/gas block, SPR CF handguard, ARMS Swan sleeve rails, and suppressors. Ammunition developed with help from USAMU and others was 77gr SMK Mk.262. Optics ranged from Leupold 3-9x to MR/Ts, then later NightForce. Mk.12 Mod 1 had the Knights Armament free-float rail and M4 upper, KAC trigger, suppressor. SAM-R and SDM-R: DMRs included the SAM-R and SDM-R 20” rifles, meant for issue to USMC and US Army Infantry units. With a DMR, it makes sense to keep the chambering and mags the same as the rest of the Squad if you can, so the DM can fight like the rest of the element, while providing additional SA with his magnified optic, and more precise fires to extended distances. While many 7.62x51 DMRs have been issued, they are not a rule.

[@tphpodcast]

There's a name I haven't seen in a while! Thanks for the writeup.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@tphpodcast It's interesting because "certain DoD entities who used to use SR-25s" adopted the 6mm ARC for a Light Sniper/DM solution.

[@4k0y0t3]

I was about to type something out and decided to check the comments first. You explained that way better than I could have. It's going to get more confusing for people since the M27 and M110A1 are both DMR's in use but are two very different weapons. To really understand the naming conventions it's much easier to look at the roles that have used them. I have shot almost everything the military has to offer from the M9 to the SASR and they all have their use case. I'm mostly excited about 6 ARC because it's a cartridge that covers most of those use cases very well.

[@chaoticcaninejb]

DMR and SPR are simply contract solicitations for a product

[@travispurdy4773]

Been watching for a while. Got into your podcast while researching a 22creed. This is the best hunting podcast out there, wish you’d put out some 6 hour videos maybe 2-3 times a week🤣

[@txpredatorhunting]

We appreciate it.

[@bryonjmordhorst]

​@texaspredatorhuntingw.d.c8688 You guys have a website?

[@Aibotcomment]

Im sick of people misidentifying my rifles. Please call them by their correct pronouns. You WILL address my 3 inch AR-15 with a 50x scope as a DMR.

[@txpredatorhunting]

😂

[@WildTex-m9u]

😂 Haha this makes me chuckle. I’m 43 and as a kid hunting with dad in the 90s everyone used high caliber rifles like the 30-06 or 270 Win. Now we geek out with our little 22s. The 6.5 Grendel has taken the place of my 30-30.

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

love it... lol

[@georgestreisel7920]

I was struggling to achieve sub moa with my larue barreled ar15 even with my handloads. Consistently between 1.25 and 1.75 moa. Ended up stripping It down and lapping a bcm thermal fit reciever and reassembling it and the first 3 groups were all around 3/4 inch at 100yards. In this case that's all it was.

[@RKDownTime]

1. Barrel 2. Optic and mount 3. Trigger 4. Ammunition 5. Barrel extension to upper receiver fit (Tight is right, loose fit barrels tend to shoot patterns not groups.) 6. Torque spec on barrel nut and muzzle device. (Gorilla tight is wrong.) Just my experience and opinion.

[@chriscaddle]

Delta the true quiet professional

[@scottymac713]

A lot of quality barrel manufacturers on the market now. My opinion only, and I have purchased numerous barrels is that every Criterion barrel I’ve owned shoots 1 moa or less with quality triggers, hand loads and premium ammo.

[@johnknouse8846]

I got bored with my “precision” bolt guns, and started wondering what kind of precision I could get out of my .223 AR. I saw a 17.7” Ballistic Advantage .223 Wylde barrel on sale, so I bought it and paired it with an Aero upper and lower. Just took it out 2 days ago to do some load testing at 100 yards. Shot some Hornaday 73 grain ELD Match with CFE223, and it surprised the hell out of me. I had to seat them a lot deeper than I would like with that bullet, but the mags for an AR restrict what you can do. Best 5 shot group was around 3/4”. Hoping to stretch it out next week, because I really think this is going to be a fun rifle to slap steel with.

[@charlesludwig9173]

@@johnknouse8846 you can shoot VLD bullets from your AR by single loading them . This is common at the 600 yard line of US Service Rifle Competition.

[@nunyabiznes32]

Try a Ballistic Advantage Hanson Premium Series for the lightweight stainless barrel. 16" and 14.5" options are available.

[@MarcusPheonixston]

what are your guys' thoughts on noveske's 12.5 6 arc

[@joeg9766]

Love the convo’s and input !! New subscriber , fellow Texan !

[@b4goutdoors861]

Talking about mixing uppers and lowers lol...one of my main squeezes is a 16in 6.5 grendel Ballistic Advantage upper on a ruger AR556 lower haha. But she shoots dang good!

[@ninjasquirrels]

Questions; 1) how’s that Mk5 treating you? 2) is there a video review for it already or is one coming?

[@txpredatorhunting]

I love all my mk5’s .

[@Coyotes_Nightmare]

Great podcast as always and I’m sure it’ll piss a fair amount of people off which brings me joy 😂

[@marksmith4627]

@@thomasabeattiesr2135 I agree 100%, they are amateurs!

[@garrettdial9194]

I have an upper from Precision Firearms that shoots really good in 6 ARC. Night gun for coyotes and pigs.

[@SGCXD]

I’ve always heard people talk about truing and lapping the receiver but never heard anyone talk about the barrel extension and barrel nut being true. Since it all mates up anyways, does it really even matter that much when you torque the barrel nut down?

[@kirkmartin2223]

Not trying to be a smarta$$ but....try it! Lap the upper and whatnot then try lapping the barrel nut. See if your accuracy improves. A high quality barrel will come pretty dang true to bore. I don't see how lapping the barrel nut to the muzzle side of the extension shoulder will help but it probably won't hurt.

[@SGCXD]

@@kirkmartin2223 I hear ya but as I thought about it more, I wonder even how you’d do it without a lathe or if the juice is worth the squeeze. I don’t think there’s a tool like the receiver lap you just slide on and spin. Maybe it’s the same case as “modern machining is good enough now” and I don’t hear anyone talk about it because it would be an absolute pain in the ass! Forget I ever mentioned it! 😂😂

[@LRRPFco52]

It does matter to have equal and square mate-up of these critical components. Receivers and barrel extensions are machined square, but the anodizing on the upper receivers can dry non-uniformly by the anodizer, which will cock the barrel to one side even when you torque the nut down. If the inner face of the barrel nut is square, the flange is square, the threads are true with each other, and the receiver face is square, it will support a far more precise system with tight shot-to-shot consistency.

[@whiskerbiscuit99]

I can promise you right now lapping the face of the upper reciever makes a huge diff. Ive had to shelf guns brought to me with cycling issues, one of them actually looked like the barrel was bent. Well known high end brand name shelf gun too, worst reciever face ive seen. All need a little, this was real bad. Mfgr requested photos and immediately sent out a new one. Did a little digging on the issue, high on low right side of the face, is due to the recievers relaxing some time after machining etc. Primarily in forged recievers, billet doesnt tend to do it.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@whiskerbiscuit99 The faces are machined square and true, but anodizing dries unevenly sometimes. I had this conversation with JP face-to-face back in 2016, and he said from a manufacturing perspective, there are variances that have to be controlled with anodizing. Square faces also help significantly with bolt life and mechanical zero with sights and optics.

[@michaelcerrone1482]

So i agree with everything you said. As another example, on my Daniel Defense AR-15, I took the original 16" govt profile barrel off and installed a 20" stainless heavy profile fluted Wilson Combat barrel, major improvement! That and a Triggertech adjustable (dialed all the way down), with an adjustable gas block, and H3 buffer, the gun is a sub-moa rifle now. The two factory loads that run good through it are frontier 75 grain and Hornaday Black 77 grain. Need to order some of your .223 ammo, for testing, to see how it does on hand loads. My other accurate AR is my Sgt of Arms 6mm ARC. I'm going to switch the Geissele to a Triggertech on that gun, because I am just such a huge fan of the Triggertech. I will say though their T-box barrels are really tight chamber tolerance and will be picky going from lot to lot on Hornady black. The match and precision hunter run superbly through that gun though. Point is, good optics, with good mounts, a well built rifle with quality products, and good ammo will get you there. If you go all in from the get go, then you'll have more time to develop good shooting habits and get training, to be a better shooter. Also get some good shooting bags and bipod/tripod, to practice shooting from different positions. Do this so your capable of shooting from any angle, when you're out hunting. I've been on situations where i saw something on a game camera, but couldn't get to the blind, so i had to make an extended shot, in the prone, or off a tripod, to take an animal.

[@mr.lovell3645]

Soooo what ya doing with that 16 inch barrel...😁

[@michaelcerrone1482]

@@mr.lovell3645 sitting in a safe, for surplus reasons, lol!

[@mr.lovell3645]

@@michaelcerrone1482 👍👍🍻

[@C_oprator89]

I think the biggest thing overlooked "mechanically" that can effect accuracy is the muzzle device being over torqued.

[@wA12031QgglZzz]

Could Kyle hit the broad side of a barn @ 100 yds with a BCA upper?

[@txpredatorhunting]

Probably not!😂

[@msquared9605]

I have a BCA upper on a PSA lower. Was still in the process of getting into AR’s but mine is a 16” fluted heavy barrel 223wylde, got an aftermarket handguard which turned out to be a little too narrow so now it’s not freefloat anymore. Regardless the thing is still a tack driver even with Winchester white box

[@WildLifeService]

I have had a lot of luck with Odin works barrels, BCG and lower parts. I put these things through every possible weather conditions and terrain and they have just worked. I have ran everything from DPMS to Daniel Defense (the SnapOn of guns).

[@SlimSlashie]

Question: What does a piston system do to accuracy? I mean, is it a HUGE deal, or it's there but you can overcome it? Just tryin' to learn. You have a great show brother!

[@sorryociffer]

I’d stay DI for a precision rig. As a rule, it will always be the most accurate system. Less moving mass, less parts.

[@SlimSlashie]

@@sorryociffer Thanks buddy. I now have one of each. lol

[@derekstreif992]

Wade, would you ever change your mind and get on board w a big AR in 6 or 22 creed if it was lightweight? DNA is making some pretty light stuff, ruger sfar is lightweight, or you could build something with a carbon barrel and handguard. Thoughts?

[@txpredatorhunting]

I have some , we will talk about them soon enough. Still not a fan ! Lol

[@Lovenlife139]

I tried listening on the way home.. lack luster delivery.. i was falling asleep

[@txpredatorhunting]

I tried reading your comment while pooping, lack luster delivery, my legs feel asleep.

[@davelpz3340]

It’s a little slow

[@Lovenlife139]

@@txpredatorhunting 🤣 and some of your hand loading info 🥴

[@michaelsavarin5620]

​@@Lovenlife139when my son starts to have focus issues we do a screen detox for a week. Tick-tock brain isn't something a grown man should let himself struggle with

[@smpinkerman]

@@michaelsavarin5620I’m hardly falling asleep, but there are about 3x the words needed for this topic here. He’s not wrong.

[@BAYRAKTAR_MAN]

The rear lug tension screw in the lower always backs out for me and I can never get it as tight as I’d like. I started throwing those screws away and putting accuwedges in everything.

[@RedDawnCA]

Iron sights? I’m 54 years old and can barely read the screen on my iPhone. Barrel #1 for sure but I started shimming the barrel extension and the upper and that also helped shrink my groups, optics #2. I don’t know how you start with load development until you have some idea what you’re looking at and you have to match the bullet to the barrel.

[@athecal6878]

JP Lmos with accubolt? Silent capture spring, Geissele super 42, or A5 buffer system? Or A5 buffer with Geissele super 42 spring? For 6mm ARC with 18in proof barrel? I have watched every one of these things where you discuss ARs and 6 ARC trying to glean this information from them because you always brag about how fantastic they are.

[@txpredatorhunting]

I have so many different options all over the place I couldn’t say one over the other. I will say don’t get asc mags and use superlative adjustable gas system.

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

So what about just taking your red dot home defense/truk gun and slap on a 20" upper 6 arc with the appropriate scope and mags when you want to reach out further?

[@charlesludwig9173]

Just one more thing: the USAMU Squad Designated Marksman Course begins with this fact: the bullet ALWAYS goes in the direction the barrel is pointed. With some thought on this students will realize for the bullet to hit where desired requires knowledge for where the barrel is pointed, so before any match conditioning first learn how to get consistent sight alignment and maintain it via smooth trigger control until the bullet clears the bore. BTW, the barrel is indeed the most important thing but over the counter barrels do not satisfy the desire. To be assured of best accuracy get a barrel that satisfies the USAMU Service Rifle Section.

[@constantine2197]

SPR 18in AR (usually) in 5.56mm using 77gr smk and high magnification. "Recce" 16in AR (usually) in 5.56mm using LPVO. DMR any semi-auto rifle accurate enough to be put into the hands of a Designated Marksman to provide accurate fire at range for a squad or platoon sized element. SPR, EBR, Mk 110, etc etc.

[@Gahmaz0z]

I go with Faxon. For the price point they shoot really good. Beyond my abilities in most cases probably. I live in Ohio and Faxon is based in Ohio so I am biased though. 😁

[@codyboland8109]

Faxon makes a 14.5 stainless pencil barrel

[@highplains8816]

I have one, 223 Wylde match 14.5 Faxon extremely accurate

[@claponclapoff6]

My second upper would be a 556, 18-inch, 416 r, 1/8 twist, 5r rifling, straight fluted, mid-weight ,stainless steel Barrel with chameleon finish. For target shooting I think? Not sure what bullet that would shoot

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

What about CBQ rig?

[@brianpehlke]

What's a boat gun anyway?

[@onekingproductions5466]

SPRs are typically gonna have (16"/18") stainless barrels and are designed around precision rounds on target. Think MPVO. Recce builds can be anything (typical barrel length might be as low as 12.5" - but usually 14.5"-18" with a magnified optic capable of watching and PID.) But the barrels and accessories are less restricted/specific. Think LPVO. Generally, if you're doing recon, you are not trying to fight/engage targets. But you want that capability. DMRs, as the name states, marksman. That's the squad sniper.

[@stephencooper5040]

3.5 MOA is the standard for the ammo for the military, I think that’s for the 62 grain green tips. For the Mk262 the standard is 2 MOA, but many lots test to a higher standard.

[@charlesludwig9173]

@@stephencooper5040 that ammo will deliver .64 MOA at 300 meters according to the USAMU. I witnessed SGT Lance Hopper shoot it at 300 yard rapid prone for a 10X score. From my match conditioned Service Rifle I have shot inside 3/4 minutes at 100 yards from irons on occasion. I primarily shoot it at the 200 and 300 yard line in US Service Rifle Competition.

[@BAYRAKTAR_MAN]

“The best AR trigger is still not a bolt gun trigger” -guy who hates self contained units and only buys geissele’s

[@Reaper-hw2wy]

I have personally gotten to the point where unless it’s like a Geisslie one piece mount I lap all rings. Useless of your internal adjustment when you lap rings and you also get a better fit and finish. You are removing vulnerabilities so that that’s go has made into that those rings and you have less error.

[@Reaper-hw2wy]

Barrel, Optic and Good rings that are true, have seen band new rings not be aligned correctly. On Mountain hundreds, if not, thousands of rifle rings and depending on the brand and depending on the manufacturer, you really get what you pay for but I’ve also seen $100 rings be out of alignment. Had brand new rings made by manufactures that a lot of people trust and swear be so out of the line that I couldn’t even bite and scope for 25 yards because it was putting so much pressure on the scope and internal components that max out the scope.

[@neal9700]

By the way, the difference between an SPR/DMR and a recce rifle is weight. Recce rifles are carried a lot and shot a little, and the general pack weight for a reconnaissance mission is significantly higher than it would be for a generic combat patrol because of time, specialized equipment, and the need to be self sufficient.

[@whiskerbiscuit99]

Goin back and watchin this again. Ive got an arguement though. Lapping the upper reciever.... ive got first hand experience with upper recievers not being true on the face, as compared to the upper reciever bore. Ill be open in saying ive seen very few recievers actually 100% true on the face. Most, regardless of brand coud benefit from lapping, a couple of the worst i have seen are from very well known AR manufacturers..... like bad, one of those examples had serious cycling problems. Goimg back to the idea of lapping... if the receiver face is not square with the bore of the reciever, then (assuming the barrel extention is 100% true) the barrel will not be square to the bore/or bcg right? Again ive seen first hand serious issues from this. Theres another factor too, thermal fit recievers vs recievers that will slide right in, thermal fit being preffered. But again ive seen even the most well known name recievers vary on fit to barrel extension.. its a combo thing Regardless i will attest that theres benefit to lapping the upper regardless of brand. Every ar i touch gets the upper lapped period. At this point i can say only a couple showed actually true when i started checking them w the tool. I want my barrel, square with the reciever bore, or anyone elses that i touch. Is there a giant gain in acvuracy? If its bad enough out then yes, not to mention reliability. That lapping tool was literally one of the first tools i bought when i got into the platform.

[@Impossibly-Possible]

My DMR = 18.5" .308 POF revolution1-6x lpvo, possible light. My SPR 16" PSA .556 fore grip flip up mbus sight, maybe a light. And my SBR, when buy one, POF P415 10.5" .300 black out surefire can, eotech 2-1, 2-1sling, rare breed trigger, fore grip, possible light.

[@chrisfisher3900]

I have no abbreviations but that thing kills anything I point it at. A drt rifle I guess

[@josephhomen]

7:20 lol so true

[@justinjones9042]

Exactly , I know I need put more rounds down range then worry about perfect sub 1 moa groups . I've done it before ,. I'm honest with myself know I'm rusty .

[@aaronunterseher1627]

Red dots on hand guns are fantastic tool... However, someone with piss poor fundamentals then sighting in a red dot will solidify bad fundamentals since there is nothing correcting it...

[@brianumbarger9790]

my opinion only SPR= Mk12 agreed Recce=14.5 to 16" AR15 with emphasis on light weight Fighting riffle= 10.5 to 16" AR15 with emphasis on 0 to 300 meters. weight, not the most important.

[@kenorrah8072]

AR15’s are to me what 308’s are to you . When are you going to get all the Ninja out of your system and get back to some Bolt Gun episodes . I’m beginning to wonder why I hit the like button now that I think about it . PS- great channel , watch every episode

[@txpredatorhunting]

Next week !

[@1bobharvey]

DMR, SPR, RECCE are at this point industry marketing buzz words that mean nothing. Its another way to say Mil Spec Tacticool for a product. They dont mean anything more often than not imo. "Scout rifle" at least actually has a standard format, the others dont really have rules that I have ever seen outside the military. 😂

[@aaron.from.winchester6744]

A little counterpoint: Most of the soldiers in Ukraine are going to only open sights for many reasons. I wouldn’t completely turn my back on BUIS.

[@tonywilfong5409]

Got just about all barrel lengths fancy name no its just the riffle i grabbed out of the safe to shoot simple

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

almost looks like this Mic is mounted on a Pic Rail, lol...

[@12chuck0351]

I'd love to see a 5 per category barrel accuracy test.

[@Gunfighterfirearmsllc]

I agree with the DMT! I have said it over and over again a DMR is nit a 5.56 with a scope! The rest is BS!

[@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813]

I’m an AR nerd. #triggered lmao…. I have four BA barrels and all different profiles, they shoot great. Modern series contour on an 18” CMV .308, stainless .223 Wylde 20” 1/8 “DMR profile” Premium series (HBAR) I have set up in a Mk12 clone, and a 10” modern series .300 BO they all shoot great for what I do with em. But I’m not trying for 1,000,000,000 yard hole on hole. I have one 16” .223 Wylde Faxon match grade pencil profile paired with a A5-H0 a green Sprinco, and a Faxon LW BCG sitting in a WC upper on a Franklin billet lower with a Geissele super Tricon. That thing is super light and skinny as hell in a BCM MCMR with an LPVO. That’s my version of a Recce. And it actually does shoot 1 MOA off a bag. I’ve got Noveskes, LWRCs, Aero Precision, BCMs/PRIs and they all shoot good, but the best of em all are the BCM and the BA and that skinny booi Faxon pencil.

[@nipsy_lafett]

Magpul bipods with KNS feet

[@nicmac3347]

No, Bluh just fuc**** No 😂😂😂

[@hse785]

⁠​​⁠ Hey Man, great podcast. 1 simple request- please stop dropping the GD. Pick another Please.

[@consciousconscience912]

Spr is more like dmr and recce is more like gpr!!! My understanding is

[@Impossibly-Possible]

You gotta stop using "cursed" words, they are horrible for the one using it and worse fkr the person it is directed to, and bad for all who hear. We are all Gods children, do not curse one another, Be fair, love each other as the family we are. Jesus Christ is our King, Lord, God and Savior, Amen!

[@X-ForceBro]

SAPR special applications precision rifle😂 if you know you know

[@dajorge195]

Put these hats in the store already

[@kochj0713]

4MOA acceptability in military??? Sorry, my man, but that was not the brightest thing to say

[@claytonschubert6912]

Man, wait till you find out the accepted accuracy for an M4 is 4 to 7 moa

[@Dilligaf.369]

I knew you were gonna do it! A stock before a quality optic or more importantly a properly headspaced bolt riding inside a carrier with a true concentric bore? What the hell! And you say a suppressor? Come on now what are we even talking about here? I would sooner take my f-class championship hand loaded ammo Even if it meant I had to shoot just the barreled action with no stock. As far as suppressors go there's no way I would put one on a gun that I built for precision work only... Of course it would be detrimental to your accuracy. When has hanging a pound off the end of your barrel ever increased accuracy in a gun? Unless by some queer chance you perfected the harmonics in the barrel somehow by adding it of course it's not going to help! If you insist that a suppressor has never made a gun shoot worse, maybe you could give me some examples of some of the names of guys who use them in the PRS series or maybe bench rest or f class? Fucking suppressor get outta here! New shooters this is why it's important to get as many opinions as you can on a topic such as precision shooting. After you get enough of them (opinions) the bullshit will separate itself from the useful information.

[@user-do1fq8oy9c]

It's out of hand now. Seems like our rifles now have pronouns and the zealots that get triggered by misgendering their rifle are unhinged!

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

Really? Funny that an "influencer" is having influence?

[@keepitgreen200]

Irons are hot garbage

[@kxkxkxkx]

Shows what you know 😂