A DOZEN DEAD SOLENOIDS on this 1987 Williams F-14 Tomcat Pinball Machine!- How did It Play? Repair 7

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@mikequenzer9100
@mikequenzer9100 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the old treasures you find in the bottom of the machine!!!!
@emprsnm9903
@emprsnm9903 3 жыл бұрын
This F-14 Tomcat is an addictive refurb story. It's a needy beastie!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We're trying to help it get there :)
@scottgm321
@scottgm321 3 жыл бұрын
I love the "Come on people..." Thanks for another great video. My daughter had a Monte Carlo and the cooling fans didn't work. The guy who sold it to her ran a wire from the fans, across the engine, around the door pillar and into the fuse box and melted the fuse box. All he had to do was replace the 20Amp cooling fan fuse under the hood . "Come on people, People come on"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
the way I always look at it is , if possible I put it back how it was originally designed, you had engineers design all this stuff, and yes maybe there's a few flaws in the design but in general there's flaws in your jumper wires too, lol So it really takes a lot for me to redesign something or hack it, much easier to just put it back to normal. I had a similar thing on my 83 Chevy Silverado, they have an issue where the connector for the blower fan relay (for the AC/Heat) burns up, they alllll do it, but the way I see it is, it took it 35 years to die, I'm good with putting it back the original way, then just replacing it again in 35 years if it does it again, lol
@Masterkill45588
@Masterkill45588 3 жыл бұрын
Always cool to find stuff from an old location in a machine I had a street fighter I found a spaceport token in
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I love it, it gives you a little peak of where the game must have been...
@GregoryIngle
@GregoryIngle Жыл бұрын
Dude you rock so hard! Thank you for this!
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 3 жыл бұрын
I'd sure love to find an abandoned pinball machine somewhere and restore it. Looks like a fun project that will result in something to be proud of. And by "abandoned" I mean "free or close to free". Ah, someday perhaps.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
It can happen.... i've gotten them free before, keep your eyes peeled :)
@rcfreeman
@rcfreeman 3 жыл бұрын
And we appreciate you doing these videos out of the kindness of your heart. They are super fantastic, you are very talented. I have learned so much! Thank you.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks RC we appreciate you hanging out with us!
@michaelvanvleet998
@michaelvanvleet998 3 жыл бұрын
Ron, you've got your hands full with this one! Time to go full inspector gadget mode!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We're gonna fix it!
@-abacchus
@-abacchus 3 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine finding this in an arcade 10 or 15 years ago (or whenever it was last in service), being super-excited to play it (afterall, it's a helluva table), put your money in only to find half of the playfield toys don't do 'owt. "Oi..! Attendant!! Money back now!!"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
It happens, lol Oh well we've got it back up and running now!
@ItsaRomethingeveryday
@ItsaRomethingeveryday 3 жыл бұрын
Liked, enjoyed watching
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you It's a Rome Thing Everyday, we appreciate it!
@dablakh0l193
@dablakh0l193 3 жыл бұрын
I just came across one of these in a garage I'm renting. It, and a bunch of other stuff, was left by the person who rented the garage before me. Apparently, it was too large for him to move when he took off, so he just left it. It is under a tarp, behind a bunch of boxes so I haven't be able to get to it to see what condition it is in. The back case is folded down over the playfield, and I can see that the 3 beacon lights are there, and not broken, so I can only hope.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Good score!
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it's stone dead you can part it out. Or you can hang the cost and do a restoration on it anyway.
@pph4204
@pph4204 3 жыл бұрын
"All That" by Bensound added to my Alexa "Rocking" Playlist! Keep up the top tunes and of course, great craftsmanship!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks PPH we appreciate you watching!
@thomasmickle7289
@thomasmickle7289 3 жыл бұрын
People put more effort into a hack than if they would just fix it right to begin with. Someone probably thought they were so clever hacking that jumper too.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
It would have worked if they didn't bypass the Yagoff Kicker, which was wear the cut was, lol if they just would have fixed that, even with the same jumper, It would have been fine, lol
@afattori316
@afattori316 3 жыл бұрын
Simply love your videos. Entertaining and educational. Really appreciate the time you take to make these.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks afattori316 we appreciate you waching!
@andrethib
@andrethib 3 жыл бұрын
this looks like a really cool pinball machine. it's like "Top Gun, but we don't want to pay royalties"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
That's it, pretty much :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, check out Gottlieb's version of Top Gun, but we don't want to pay royalties, if you want to see another cool machine.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eabclJeYm9mgn8U
@seancurry2863
@seancurry2863 3 жыл бұрын
Great series. You’re really working hard on this one!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We’re gonna fix it!
@johnhammond3482
@johnhammond3482 3 жыл бұрын
im just waiting to see it fully working i have injoyed watching all 7 parts of this video Ron
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We're headed that way :)
@viscountalpha
@viscountalpha 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy watching these videos. I find it fascinating and I hope to get a fixer upper pin eventually.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you watching with us!
@Jimgat83
@Jimgat83 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ron
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Arcade Crusaders!
@christopherrasmussen8718
@christopherrasmussen8718 3 жыл бұрын
When I was an operator we were never to change the wires. Owner always said to fix the problem. Not make more.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
That makes good sense to me! We found it and fixed it, luckily it wasn't tooooo bad. Thanks for watching man!
@FloppyDiskMaster
@FloppyDiskMaster 3 жыл бұрын
“This is a label from a cassette tape, remember them?” Me, the nerd who collects cassettes: _Perhaps_
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha Hello Floppy Disk Master :) I've got 78rpm records within 5 feet of me right now, lol
@jussikuusela7345
@jussikuusela7345 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Got plenty of cassettes left from the good ol' days, and almost every vinyl record I ever acquired... and I still buy vinyl when I find something good, lately mostly 80's disco, but there are some unforgettable songs from the older times too, LOL... I have digitized some 78 RPM records at 45 speed with a Stanton 500 stylus, then corrected the speed in the recording software, it sounds fairly good!
@jussikuusela7345
@jussikuusela7345 3 жыл бұрын
It is clear now that plenty of the buzz we heard in the first videos alternated by the lighting circuits firing.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Yup there is a ground loop problem
@frankgagliano9677
@frankgagliano9677 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ron, What is the strangest thing you have found in the cabinet of a pinball machine? Was that a South Carolina tag I saw on the machine for gaming? Can not wait to see the next video. Thanks for filming
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Strangest thing I ever found was hundreds of dollars worth of quarters in the coin box and the door didn’t have a lock on it. All they had to do was open the door and check... but they didn’t.
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, that looked like a real pain to take all those ramps and other parts off. Some of the coolest games have done of the dumbest servicing procedures (looking at you Indiana Jones the Pinball Adventure!).
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the more complex they are the longer it takes to get the playfield right...
@rocket625
@rocket625 3 жыл бұрын
looks great joe err ron
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a625 c625 !
@wilder9777
@wilder9777 3 жыл бұрын
Joe´s you save the Arcade games
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We try to, thank you Wilder!
@webdoc90
@webdoc90 3 жыл бұрын
“Come on people”. I was dying.....
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
That's my new thing, I've been saying it to your Mouse Trap lately, LOL I fixed your power supply but now I'm working on the PCB, it's getting there!
@webdoc90
@webdoc90 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade blame Kasey. Although I don’t think he touched once he got it. I remember he paid $200 for it.
@wackyworldofwindios3476
@wackyworldofwindios3476 3 жыл бұрын
That game likes you , that why i keeps interrupting you. It's saying THANK YOU .
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there's something to that :)
@tobykenobe
@tobykenobe 3 жыл бұрын
Last arcade I visited the pinball machines worked but were in rough shape appearance wise, looked like they weren't cleaned in years
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
That's kind of what killed them on route. Operators liked that you don't have to hardly service arcade games, but Pinball machines take maintenance... so they never worked on them... which means players stopped playing them... so they didn't earn as much... etc. vicious circle.
@stevepearson7745
@stevepearson7745 3 жыл бұрын
You have spoiled us Ronnie. Used to, I would not have thought the play field was that bad. But now after seeing a couple of years of your magic, I agree. Horrible. Also we need a special shirt that says Come On People!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I might have to make one lol I just got a new logo done I'll have a new t-shirt soon with the new logo at least, it's pretty cool :)
@molarmedic
@molarmedic 2 жыл бұрын
my F14 today decided it doesnt want to fire flippers or center and right eject solenoids in the upper part of playfield. Slings work, flashers work, knocker fine, I can hear the relay switching, but balls wont fire up into the wire ramps and the flippers stopped. Happened while playing. Fuses are good, no smoke, no smells. Could it a bad solder joint?
@andrewthecelt3794
@andrewthecelt3794 3 жыл бұрын
Revvin' up your pinball Listen to her howlin' roar Metal under tension Beggin' you to touch and go Highway to the Danger Zone Ride into the Danger Zone
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Vroom Vroom
@litz13
@litz13 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago, I worked at the local coin op distributor here in Atlanta. Trust me, when I say this janked up wiring is nothing. We had an actual line item in the service billing system called an "Un-Fix Fee" and it was often used.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
If it's nothing I probably shouldn't have mentioned it then :)
@litz13
@litz13 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade heh, but then you'd have no video! I think the most impressive thing is, despite all that was wrong, that game still mostly (kinda) worked... Really says something for how superbly engineered the Williams games were.
@Jeroen_a
@Jeroen_a 3 жыл бұрын
@13:45 g' .... it looks like something with the flashers, could it be a general something with the flashers?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them were just the bulbs burnt out :)
@Jeroen_a
@Jeroen_a 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcadeAha! :D
@wackyworldofwindios3476
@wackyworldofwindios3476 3 жыл бұрын
You working on a Holiday? If I had a store like yours I be working too. In fact I probably live there.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I am working on a Holiday, yup!
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade It's not work if you are passionate about what you do.
@TheGnomestead
@TheGnomestead 3 жыл бұрын
Disabling knockers should be punishable by disabling your knockers! Ya ya! How would you like that aniknockers! 😎! SAVE THE KNOCKERS PEOPLE! There's your next tshirt Ron Your welcome! 😎😅👍❤️😝🤣
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I love knockers!
@TheGnomestead
@TheGnomestead 3 жыл бұрын
Another chapter well done! Ronnie! Hit that 👍 people and if ya don't like it??? Hit the 👎👎 twice! Really show him!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Haterz can’t do math!!!
@CotyRiddle
@CotyRiddle 3 жыл бұрын
crap ton of hum coming from that cabinet.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
HUMMMMMMMMMM
@stphinkle
@stphinkle 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there are two lamps you missed! The red and blue ones on the left at time 11:46. If you notice to the left on the upper ledge above the playfield on the top breaking through the metal case boundary there are two lights are not lit, there is a red and a blue lamp below the two pairs of red and white lamps.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Oh o.k. I'll go do it again thank you for pointing that out in this video I filmed a month ago
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 жыл бұрын
Whats a "yaygarf kicker" please ?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
In the game you're dogfighting in an F-14 Tomcat against "General Yagoff", in the game Steve Ritchie (the designer) came up with the brilliant idea that when you shoot the ball up the left arc, you hit a switch that is just like the ball save kicker on the left bottom of the playfield... so in the past, when the ball is falling down the left side if the save is active once you hit a switch, a coil kicks the ball back onto the playfield before it drains. Ritchie placed the same mech up on the top left, so when you shoot UP and hit that switch, it kicks the ball back at the flippers really, really fast and then general Yagoff laughs at you. That's also the shot to 'kill' him when you get to that mode. So the illusion of the game is that General Yagoff is flying up there on the left under the diverters :)
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Cheers Ron.
@crackone2three
@crackone2three 3 жыл бұрын
what did they think when they build this machines ? How many Coils/Lights do u want ? YES ALL OF THEM haha
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
They took a clue from the government and started using baseline accounting, LOL
@pcachu
@pcachu 3 жыл бұрын
One of these days you're going to stumble across a playfield hack so stupid that you make an entire video where you do nothing but point the camera at it and say "Come on people."
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha I might have to do that. I'm planning on one of these days making a video where I just put the camera on a tripod, and read the manual in a monotone voice for all the haters who tell me I ought to do this or that, lol
@robertlipsett2535
@robertlipsett2535 3 жыл бұрын
he had a perfect chance for it a few video ago with people cutting all the wires between head and main body. usually at that point I just swear for 10 minutes and fume, that after I drop my offer price to 10 percent of what they wanted after pointing out the plugs
@christianelzey9703
@christianelzey9703 3 жыл бұрын
There's a Medieval Madness at the Jilly's Arcade in Ocean City with about 4 drywall screws in the playfield holding new rubber rings to keep the ball out of broken plastics where it gets stuck. It's been like that for years.
@williamcooper2368
@williamcooper2368 Жыл бұрын
Come on PEOPLE.❤️
@stphinkle
@stphinkle 3 жыл бұрын
As for the Flasher 7 issue, and which bulbs should flash on 9 and 10, see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHSslJ2Mmbyfeac A lot depends on whether they removed the flash bulbs for flasher 7 and reassigned some of the wires for 9 and 10. There really are two versions of this flasher setup.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I figured it out eventually, I knew they took a couple out but didn't know which ones they were until I started digging into it a little bit...
@Sunsetdrivein
@Sunsetdrivein 3 жыл бұрын
Probably have a blown fuse for a group of 25 volt coils up on the aux driver board.
@randycarter2001
@randycarter2001 3 жыл бұрын
Sure you got all of the lamps? Shouldn't those red, white and blue domes on the play field light up?
@pcachu
@pcachu 3 жыл бұрын
Those aren't "lamps", they're classified by the machine as "flashers". They're part of the solenoid test instead of the lamp test, I think because they use solenoid voltage instead of lamp voltage, and also because most of them tend to be pulsed for quick flashes instead of being held on (obvious exception: the dome lights on top of the backbox). I actually thought he missed the bottom red/blue pair on that elevated diverter rail section, but they came to life for a bit while he was removing it to get to the Yagov kicker so that's obviously a bad wire connection.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We got 'em!
@jacooosthuizen3593
@jacooosthuizen3593 3 жыл бұрын
show us teh whey masta
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
We're gonna get it :)
@TheGnomestead
@TheGnomestead 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be upchuckin' on the play field man! Stomach acid is hard clean up! Not even scotch bright eraser would clean that!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re quick it doesn’t eat much 😀
@danijelcar5184
@danijelcar5184 3 жыл бұрын
Its bether and bether... 😁😎👍
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Danijel!
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 3 жыл бұрын
YAGOFF without his kicker is just plain wrong.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would kill the game!
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