A Female Fan's Honest Opinion on The Star Wars of Today

[@realjesterbell]

Link to my original "Why I Stopped Caring About Star Wars" Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqnZpp-AnsR9lcU

[@AndreNitroX]

Well said. Disney stole the passion from Star Wars but they didn’t kill it. No the real Star Wars will live on through the fans. I’m not sure if you are a fan of the expanded universe that existed for 40 years before Disney but those books, comics and games keep Star Wars alive for me since there is so much content that I keep finding new stories to love. The majority of my favorite Star Wars characters in the EU are women and as a man that does not bother me, but new Disney content just depresses me so I just avoid it now like you.

[@freman007]

I would have to agree with your observation about female characters. Look at The Acolyte. It has a lot of female characters, but it has no feminine characters. You could replace every female character with a man and nothing would change. I think it was Emily Blunt who says that she just sighs whenever she gets a script and it calls for a "strong female character" because she knows it will just call for looking stoic and grunting a lot. Not exactly a lot of acting range required there.

[@DareBear2099]

Great video, just liked and subscribed

[@CainCadeyrn04]

I would say that your video applies to a lot of other movies, and specifically the characters in said movies. We’re supposed to feel the emotions of the characters, but we don’t feel their emotions. This applies a lot to Captain Marvel, in her first movie she’s a propaganda piece and not an actual character, even in the scenes where it’s supposed to be emotional they just fall flat and we don’t really feel them. She doesn’t feel human. But in the show ’The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’, there are scenes where we’re supposed to feel one emotion but instead feel something else. The scene that conveys this so much is when John Walker is chasing the terrorist after his best friend, his brother in arms, his confidant is killed after saving his life. When John kills the terrorist, it’s conveyed to be this terrible action that he does with Captain America’s shield, but instead all I see is a man who just witnessed the death of his best friend who’s going through so much emotions that he kills the terrorist who had a hand in his death. The beginning of the next episode even takes his character to greater heights, even though some of it is confusing. Anyway all of this showed me that John Walker, is a human being. And this is when they tried to convince us that he’s a villain.

[@jamarioadams2115]

Your opinion is your opinion but if u don't like how things r know just move on . u don't have to keep doing these videos on why u won't read this anymore or why u won't watch that anymore it's really annoying.

[@ArrowValley]

This might shock Disney but women enjoyed Star Wars as it was.

[@Last_Resort991]

Impossible, there was not one well written strong female in the trilogy, just Patriarchy. Wait a minute......

[@carlkligerman1981]

Almost like GOOD storytelling is universal, huh?

[@bubsy3861]

Woman's by them self just not progressive enough now.

[@905JimRaynor]

FALSE, women only like shows with lesbians.

[@PictureHouseCinema]

and us men never kept them out of it.

[@splurb5000]

"Just miserable to be around" sums it up perfectly.

[@suezcontours6653]

Another Pick-me. Wait till the nerds pick this girl apart the way they did Pearlythings.

[@MiiQ2]

@@suezcontours6653If she is what you consider a pick me, you got problems. JustPealThings is a grifter that seeks male validation and a partner by parroting rhetoric that would put men and women down. Jesterbell is able to explain the problems with modern Star Wars without doing any of the sort, they are not the same. Not all nerds are the misogynists you think they are, most just want a good story

[@yasyas618]

@@suezcontours6653 lol this person is not a pickme at all… she just openly and honestly gave a thorough explanation of her genuine thoughts and feelings on a topic that she clearly had real nostalgia for; and she was pretty objectively spot-on with the general sentiment of disappointment that the MASSIVE FANBASE felt after that incredible trainwreck of the combination of episode 8 & 9 randomly criticizing someone who is simply being so genuinely open and honest, is just classically being a rude kook. Plus, it’s idiotic to call her a pickme, when she was even including nuanced points about how there are legitimate women’s issues, etc etc; the point was just that “inclusivity” tropes that are somewhat mindlessly done as Hollywood pandering are nowhere near the same conversation as actual legitimate considerations of creating better equality throughout our complex society

[@overgrowndweeb]

Obnoxious die hards, alt right sexists, and getting blamed by the creators for not liking their dumpster fire. Yep, pure misery.

[@steve93pa]

​@@suezcontours6653I don't think you know what that phrase means....

[@Mistashiba]

“Star Wars made people happy before, now its just arguing and misery” Nailed it.

[@charleskimball7058]

Star Wars fans were trashing the prequels before Disney bought the franchise and made the sequels, so fan hate is nothing new to Star Wars

[@SeabeeMerbitz]

lol you must not have been around when the prequels came out.

[@grannytoes7221]

​@@SeabeeMerbitzlol right, star wars is like the most massive of mass appeal. There's always been massive audiences of loudmouths since it's inception. Nothing as changed, really confused by that quote.

[@SeabeeMerbitz]

@@grannytoes7221 same lol it has never made everyone happy. People were complaining about Ewoks in ROTJ. Like, this has always been Star Wars fandom.

[@Tiglath-Pileser3]

That "The Last Jedi" moment really resonates. I remember walking out of the theater in silence, then standing at my car for a long time. I was slowly being crushed under the realization that I no longer felt any need to consume Star Wars media. As someone old enough to have watched the originals in theaters, that was a horrifying realization. It would be like staring into your chest and finding that your heart was gone.

[@3mpt7]

People had a similar reaction to The Phantom Menace. The realization that the Jedi were ruined was overwhelming. But the video games made up for it, and they were back for the next one. And the next one. Lightsaber Battles, Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, Amidala, Shmi, podracing, and the music carried the film. George Lucas did warn us what the movies was about--the fall of the Republic and the Jedi. But we hadn't seen anything like it in cinema before.

[@thiefofa1073]

Same here. I felt physically sick during and after the movie. I knew something was wrong the moment Poe made the "Your mother" joke, and then Finn was walking around with leaking pipes all for comedic laughs. The manufactured scenes (including the bomber girl catching the release remote control), off-character dialogue (the purple-haired woman general scolding Poe and refusing to reveal her plans), stupid edits and remember-berries. Finally I was gob-smacked during the lore-breaking hyperspace-ram manueveur scene.

[@3mpt7]

The Force Awakens was the last Star Wars movie I watched from beginning to end. The Bacta suit scene was the final straw, that made sure I would not be finishing the Last Jedi, but the fact that Poe Dameron charged forward in a straight line whilst out in the open, and didn't get swatted by a turbo laser in the opening scene made it clear that the writer and director did NOT give a crap.

[@coolcat23]

Leaving the theatre after "The Last Jedi" had ended was brutal. It not only was a bad movie with no sense for tone, logic, etc. but it also trampled on the foundations that had made Star Wars a treasured universe. I cannot get it into my head how Johnson and Kennedy could be so tone deaf to not realize what they were doing. It was an artistic disaster from a fan's perspective but it was also a financial disaster from a franchise owner perspective. The viewing numbers "The Acolyte" is pulling now may not be terrible in absolute terms (EDIT: well, it got cancelled), but they are abysmal when you consider the extraordinary support Star Wars once had from fans.

[@zoso1980]

Yup. You realized it wasn't for you anymore. They have been brazen with it in recent years. Blaming "toxic" fans for this and that. In reality, people have decades of vestment and their childhoods in Star Wars. They have taken it away from those people and tried to reframe it for more modern day intersectional and activist ideologies. It's almost philosophically completely disconnected from Lucas' era now.

[@Omnitrickster0207]

Star Wars was bought because Disney wanted a “boys brand” to counter its “girls brand” (basically Disney itself) with all its princess stuff, but I grew up on Disney it never felt like a girls brand to me just a family brand.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

A family brand is probably no longer something they aspire to be.

[@JohnDoe-wd5ij]

True, I grow up with Disney and have a lot of fond memory. It had wonderful stories that were enjoyable for boys and girls. I liked to watch Cinderella as I liked to watch Aladin. Children actually didn't care that much.

[@jerr0.]

I think it was mostly a girl's brand. While there were some exceptions like Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Lion King, Toy Story, ect, those things only came once or twice a decade. I grew up with only brothers and we didn't really buy merch or get overly immersed in the Disney shtick the way you see some girls do. Our house was littered with Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Marvel and DC superheroes, Transformers and Star Wars. That kind of stuff that was clearly for boys.

[@inthefade]

And then proceeded to try to turn it into a girl brand that even girls don't like.

[@StevenZephyc]

​@@jerr0.The entirety of Pixar is pretty much boy brands. Cars, the Incredibles, toy story, wall-e

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

I know exactly what you're saying with the Last Jedi. That felt like a funeral. Instead of opening up a new saga with a wise, older Luke, he was just a bitter old dude that keeled over after projecting a million light years away.

[@Blackjack701AD]

Yup. I LOL'd when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder. It went downhill from there.

[@inthefade]

I was imagining Luke doing badass things like lifting a Star Destroyer or whatever, but being this mythical figure that only plays a small role in the story... And then they just shit on Luke and Han.

[@lafeil]

Agree

[@Daniel__Nobre]

It was basically a Rian Johnson ego trip. I think he is a good director obviously. TLJ still has some of the best visual and amazing cinematography moments of all SW movies, but man.. was it an ego trip. He clearly wanted it to be his thing and to break things and “subvert” expectations as the top priority (basically his ego overlapping everything SW was supposed to be - the most important thing had to be for him to leave his “mark”). The worst part for me though, is that critics went crazy with it. For so many they hate SW because it’s like comfort food. It doesn’t break the mould. But the thing is it’s not supposed to. It was the time when I started to hear more and more of that excuse to justify not caring about lore and consistency (usually coming from “new” fans, people that hate following lore and that just want the popcorn): “it’s just fantasy, just space wizards with laser swords”.. Cmon.. then everything goes and we can’t have proper impactful stories with meaning because anyone, regardless of talent, skill and creativity, can write a movie (I guess that may be what is happening behind the scenes..?)

[@Hiccuple]

Last Jedi felt like a gut punch. Every star wars film I've ever gone to, be it release or rerelease, has had the audience applaud and hoot/holler and cheer at the end. That hasn't happened with any of the Disney star wars films. When we walked out of Last Jedi there was only stunned silence (not the good kind) and shuffling of feet. We had all collectively witnessed something that shouldn't have been or ever existed. Other than describing it that way, I'm not sure how to convey just what a weird unenjoyable feeling we all had coming out of that theater. Whatever Last Jedi was meant to accomplish, it did the opposite. I don't think any movie has ever done that to me either ever or since. There was also a bit of anger because it didn't seem like anyone was pleased with the movie we had seen/paid for. Whatever Disney is trying to do with Star Wars, they are failing spectacularly and it's just sad at this point.

[@chriscollins2095]

Disney didn't make Star Wars for women. Disney made Star Wars for modern activists--mainly feminists--who prioritize pushing a message to an audience. The story is secondary. Personally, I think activists just make terrible writers. Because if you don't like their stories, you must have a problem with their message, so you're just a sexist, racist, or whatever. And because they won't accept criticism, they never improve at writing.

[@silverheart4049]

I've been saying that they haven't even changed it into a girl brand. Girl brands are Barbie and Monster High and Horseland. The activists may have made it into what they think girls and women want, but it isn't what we want. Rey doesn't even change her outfit once, I think, and certainly not into anything pretty, and she ends up alone in every sense, no friends, no boyfriend, just her.

[@inthefade]

They changed it into what they WANT boys and girls to like. Just like communists, they feel they can just force change on how people think and behave, and then create their utopia.

[@Zu3sUK]

Dude these are the people I have been tasked to look for.. I mean we're struggling enough at the asylum as it is but to have all of these 'prison breaks' urrggh. We can't keep up!

[@lafeil]

Agree

[@Hoganply]

@@silverheart4049 She does change outfits, but only in the way a guy buys a slightly different colour blazer.

[@vnom84]

Disney spent billions of dollars aquiring both Marvel and Star Wars because, for decades, they struggled to hold adolescent boys as an audience. Like, once boys aged out of liking the Cars movies, they lost them as audience memebers. Eventually they stopped trying, so they bought the boys market. And within ten years they'd ruined both brands and turned them both into homogenous slop designed by HR departments and committees. Make it make sense for me, please.

[@jarerarebear1765]

They even wrecked Pixar too, Cars, the Incredibles, and Toy Story were all very appealing to boys. But then Lightyear came along and effectively did to Buzz what Last Jedi did to Luke Skywalker.

[@inthefade]

Look into the deliberate demoralizing of this generation. It is being done on purpose to eventually usher in a new economic order, and it is being pushed by very powerful people. Destroying our myths and heroes is only a small part of the bigger plan.

[@colorin81colorado]

I think that if you believe that Disney is trying to win the female audiences then you are not paying attention to what Disney is doing. Nothing Disney has done has anything todo with creating money for the share holder's. Investment nor to service an maintain theier audiences. It is a direct attack on American culture, to create division and apathy with the population. It is all by design and it has nothing to do with female nor male audiences... It is all about gradually creating a way to spoil all that is good, just like a cancer... The Woke mind virus is an actual problem that we must begin to treat rather than embrace. That is why most of it does not make sense... It is a virus, it does not need to make sense!

[@danieln6700]

Ideology, esg funding and social engineering

[@kurtkriz412]

Its interesting that they can't "do" boys as an audience anymore. Treasure Planet had real potential - but they pulled every lame trick and it only takes three to kill something. The fact that Jim's father left and "went to sea" leaving the mom & boy crying... nope. Not remotely in the book so why is it in the adaptation? As an adult father I started to tune out here. I love the book as a lad and love sci fi & sci-fantasy so why did you make Jim into a punk? Why did you blame the father? Why did you bring in so many "zany silly chatty" side characters? Make the only competent good guy character that survives the lady captain? Read the book. Jim is clever, a little bit worldly, more mature, his father is a good man and dies during the course of the book early on, and the story is more about Jim having to navigate the strict structures of the people with power and money, navy discipline, and the lure of freedom. The boy is middle class.

[@Mrbingles9]

You summarized it perfectly: it’s currently being made by people who don’t understand what Star Wars meant to people, nor do they care to know; they don’t treat it with respect because they consider it a “nerd” thing, and it’s just “nerds” who are mad. No. It was something very special to millions of people; it resonated across cultures and generations; and it inspired countless dreams. The destruction of the franchise, as you said, has had the reverse, crushing effect; it took away something from our collective hearts, and the deeply personal, individual relationship each of us used to have with this material, this fantasy, mythic universe. And they don’t care that they took it away; I hate them.

[@clayformations1638]

Funny, back in 1977 Star Wars was a universally loved phenomenon. Young, old, male and female loved it. The new Star Wars, seeking be inclusive... is polarizing.

[@cthulhurising666]

It was truly a magical time and an example of real inclusivity.

[@Hiccuple]

​@@cthulhurising66690s and up until Lucas sold star wars was a wonderful time. Being excited for every new project, be it game, comic, tv, book, or movie. I miss that. There were some stinkers but you still felt like they were treating you wyrd respect catering to what it means to be a fan. I get none of that with Disney star wars. Maybe a little with first 2 seasons of Mandalorian, rogue one, and Andor, but the rest is them being purposely antagonistic to fans and not caring about what it is that fans loved in the first place. It would be for the best if Disney sold off star wars as they've proven incapable as caretakers and custodians of the franchise.

[@kellygreenii]

Because Lucas built the franchise as a modern myth exploring UNIVERSAL themes. It’s become polarizing because now it is a platform for various people’s tribal messages. Pushing a feminist message when the vast majority of your customers are male? Is just really stupid business.

[@sztallone415]

@@kellygreenii I'd go further and say it's not even a feminist message, just a cheap imitation of one because let's exploit [current_trend]. If it was feminist, at least girls would like it but afaik Rey is perceived as shit by girls too, she can't top Leia which says enough. That Rose Tiko is rubbish as well

[@kellygreenii]

@@sztallone415 I have no problems with Rey as a character. The problem with the Sequels is that Disney didn’t understand Star Wars or why it was so popular. So they slapped something together and just assumed people would like it. I have seen Acolyte yet, but the pre-debut marketing had been a consumate disaster. Letting Headlund run her mouth and actively antagonize your consumer demographic was just insane. I was saying a mouth ago that she needed to shut up or else she’d talk the show into cancellation.

[@sailorpluto9914]

As a long-time Star Wars fan. And a black female.l never felt left out, l loved the storyline and characters from the original to the prequels. The only Disney Star Wars l liked was Rouge One. Also The Lucas Star Wars was for boys and girls because of Princess Leia and Padme. I still have both of the dolls. Also I have the old StarWars comic books from the late 70s to early 90s, and it had a lot of strong female characters. There was a black female character in Dark Empire comic book her name was Val who was Han Solo's fake wife. The same character that was in the Solo movie. Some of Disney's StarWars characters were poorly written in my opinion.

[@p.bckman2997]

Yeah, Rogue One was good. Actually really good. Most of the characters were very well written. I particularly liked Bodhi Rook, the poor Imperial pilot more or less voluntarily turned rebel. This kind of depth is entirely gone from the other Disney SW films.

[@SigfridSWE]

Well said!

[@c99kfm]

...they're not dolls, they're action figures. 😥😊

[@asarishepard8171]

Ikr? Im a white woman, not a dude, but women like leia were strong and part of the leadership. I love luke, I was with him through his journey.

[@p.bckman2997]

@@asarishepard8171 , most of us had no problems emphasizing with a walking carpet, a garbage bin and a brass mannequin, so yeah, a compelling story is compelling.

[@Theworthlessopinion]

This girl really is a savage! Don’t bend the knee honey! Keep being honest!!!!!

[@lostree1981]

honey... jesus christ. 🙄

[@Theworthlessopinion]

@gavinpowell4607 what? I don’t agree with all her points necessarily but I just see a lot of people pressuring her to “remain positive” and I think she should just remain honest. Wish you could be more articulate.

[@HellaSayHella]

@@Theworthlessopinion You're not allowed to say honey, I guess.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

​@@HellaSayHella Oh wow, in 2024 that might be it. I thought it was a Nu Star Wars fan but yeah it's probably some kind of......."microaggression" or some 💩.

[@norpatrick]

"jesus christ" ? Why bring religion into this?

[@poboxchristmas380]

This was a very fair and respectful opinion. When Disney says the force is female and they make these movies for female fans, they should at least listen to real female fans. This woman let them know exactly what the issues were and did so with none of the toxic traits Disney claims their critics all have.

[@draketheduelist]

Would it be less fair if a man said the same thing? Because all the supposedly "toxic" male critics I've heard from relay very similar ideas, from their critiques to their personal stories. Only major difference is that male fans merely _speculate_ on female Star Wars fans' complaints, and it seemed as if we were more or less over target. It's almost like the "toxicity" is a mirage woven by a desperate corporation who isn't commanding the respect they used to... "I only reject stupid change, but I see how that might confuse you." -Dilbert

[@poboxchristmas380]

​@@draketheduelist It's just as valid from a male point-of-view. The issue really is that Disney shills dismiss male complaints with the standard "it wasn't made for you" narrative. What can be their defense once the "people it was made for" reject it? We need more female fans to call Disney out like this. Despite years upon years of Star Wars fans being called nerds and geeks, Disney shills are trying to paint old school SW fans as being jocks, wifebeaters and old southern plantation owners. It's an outrageous narrative to push, but many buy into it.

[@markpostgate2551]

​@@poboxchristmas380 Yes, on the surface, but no if you look under the hood. The first "rule" I noticed about modern idpol was "if you are not of the qualifying demographic you can't say what does or doesn't constitute hatred/discrimination/oppression" whatever, and that seemed unfair to me (and it is, it's a deliberate attempt to infantilize you to the stage of moral development where you determine the rules on the grounds of "because I said so" rather than being able to discover them by your own application if principles. It's basically setting your sense making back to the level of a 3 year old!) But, here is the rub, if you are of the qualifying demographic but don't agree they will come after you even more aggressively and with even greater effort to squash your dissent. Some of the most major bullying campaigns are against people who are of the "qualifying demographic" simply because they can't be easily dismissed with an ad hominem.

[@poboxchristmas380]

@@markpostgate2551 Disney's tactics with The Acolyte are crystal clear. All of the press for the show was pure propaganda rather than actual promotion of the specific product itself. They removed any major white male characters because they knew this would provoke a response that they could manipulate easily. "Not all shows have to have white lead characters!" They attempted to put themselves in a position where ANY criticism can be dismissed as "anger over minorities in lead roles".

[@poboxchristmas380]

@@markpostgate2551 I have no idea why my response to you is being hidden by KZbin. I said nothing contraversial

[@AndreNitroX]

The true Star Wars will always be the 40 years of content before Disney

[@Theworthlessopinion]

@BaithNa the prequels were at least made with the best of intentions. To add to the lore and they at least had an arc. The sequels were NEVER made to add to the story.

[@roberterwine7650]

the EU was hot garbage , Disney saved star wars

[@Tony-hv8wz]

​@@roberterwine7650stop lying.

[@crimansizers5840]

SWTOR (era of the old republic, eg: Malgus, Shan, etc) is still strong and going :)

[@mayhemivory5730]

@@crimansizers5840Satele Shan is still my favorite Jedi, and all it took was that one cinematic!

[@PeterJosephRivera]

she's right... the Last Jedi was badly written and that toxic Message of "the force is EXCLUSIVELY FEMINIST now" really Pulled everything down... we all walked out after Luke vanished, and we didn't care anymore

[@Legomicroman]

​@@Thed538dhsk well, how would the vice-versa sound to you?

[@JohnSmith-ns6dp]

@@Thed538dhskIt ignores all of Star Wars history and lore.

[@GenericProtagonist7]

​​@@Thed538dhskWhy are they trying to gender a fictional metaphysical force for the sake of their real life political messaging? This disingenuous game that leftist play is hilarious; you DEMAND change, but if anyone pushes back you instantly start screeching "WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE!?!?!?!!?!!"

[@sky0kast0]

Star wars was a male series and there was female characters but not the main character and since Obiwan just had another female main character ... And how Book of boba Fett was mistreated ... Nah I'm good not digging more I'll try Andor just for kicks if it's possible

[@sky0kast0]

The female brand happened in the Disney timeline not anything before

[@sethsipe6842]

"Just miserable to be apart of." Wow. Said what I was feeling exactly. I miss good Star Wars...

[@and8091]

​@@BaithNa I agree. I love the Crystal Star.

[@SeniorCharry]

Imagine being a huge fan of Star Wars, you’re walking out of the Last Jedi and thinking “what was that?” You go online to vent about how bad the film was and see the media attacking critics calling them man-babies. Then social media started calling fans racist and sexist for not liking a film with “diversity” and “strong female” characters and the director of the film seemed to find pleasure in gaslighting fans. Star Wars is being used to push politics and modern feminism.

[@eyeofhorus99]

My reaction when i walked out was, “that was good, for a Disney movie.” Still can’t get over Leia being a Force Mary Poppins

[@asarishepard8171]

Alot of directors now seem to take pleasure in belittling criticism, calling fans names while making mean spirited decisions that the characters would never do. Remember when if a movie was criticized as bad the directors wouldn't clap back? Yeah we need that again.

[@idiot_city5444]

Walking out of TJL was the first time I walked out of a theatre actually depressed, lol

[@Zachariouspapayas]

Wow jester, 10/10 video for sure. I’ve been on KZbin for a long time and this is my first ever KZbin comment because this video summed up exactly how I feel. You’re content around marvel and Star Wars says exactly how I feel without all of the fake outrage from some of the other KZbinrs that I’ve seen. TLJ felt like a stab through the heart and Kenobi was also my breaking point for the series as well. As much as I love Ahsoka in the clone wars, I couldn’t bring myself to watch her series because Disney has hurt me too many times with this series. The end of season 2 of Mando had me excited for the future again only to have the rug pulled out from under me. Ironically Star Wars taught me to hope for the future while at the same time it’s taught me that sometimes I have to let go of my hope and move on. Please keep up the quality content!

[@sailaway30]

I know how she feels. I quit being a Star Wars fan over two years ago and before then I was a massive Star Wars fan since I was a child and what Disney did to Star Wars is unforgettable now I do not consider myself a fan.

[@emanymton713]

I’m still a Star Wars fan. They can never take that from me. But I grew up in the 80s so I know Star Wars intimately in my childhood. What they present to me is not Star Wars and so I don’t treat it as such.

[@danielc9595]

Same here. It hurts me that this is so bad and makes everyone fight. Star Wars was always so fun to Talk about and games so fun to play.

[@mishynaofficial]

I don't call myself a Star Wars fan either. But the Original Trilogy fan, sure. The rest of the discourse is just super toxic.

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

@1:17 "at one time Star Wars was bigger than Marvel".. in between 1979-1983,the sales from Star Wars related comics saved Marvel from bankruptcy,just before Secret Wars hit in the mid 80's.

[@shooterdownunder]

Honestly watching Star Wars since Disney took over has been like watching someone drown a puppy where the puppy is allowed brief periods to grasp for air.

[@nealgrimes4382]

@strpg9938 Have you heard both of them dying ? i'm worried.

[@4lackofbetter]

​@strpg9938 The poster wasn't talking about the puppy/rabbit dying, just suffering where it almost drowns to be let up for a single breath before being submerged again. That's way more cruel.

[@4lackofbetter]

@strpg9938 Thanks for clarifying, but I never thought or implied you had a reading impediment. And yes " upon dying" was the phrase that had me confused. So if you've seen Andor the sounds of rabbits dying is similar to what they used to torture Bix.

[@whrecordings]

I appreciate that you get these franchises/characters in a way that makes your points relevant to someone like me who grew up in the 80's with the original trilogy, and lived through the boom/bust of the X-Men/Marvel/the comics industry in the 90's. It really proves that great story telling will always shine through generations and decades.

[@jamierussellville101]

Finally, someone pointing out the irony of Hedland making a girl power show. Star Wars was a brand for everyone. It didn't need to become a specific brand for anyone. It's original story is good vs evil and multiple ( Luke, Leia, Han) characters having a heros journey (including a woman, i know shocker) they've really lost that.

[@atticstattic]

I saw _Star Wars_ the day after it opened in '77, but nothing compared to the high of walking out of the theater after _The Empire Strikes Back_ - the big reveal! Yoda! Imperial walkers! Being completely immersed in the expansion of this universe we had been introduced to! _The Force Awakens_ was OK, it felt like '77 again...until you thought too much about it. But _The Last Jedi_ left me walking out of the theater shaking my head wondering what in the hell I had just seen.

[@charleshartley9597]

Are you me?!? Felt all of the same feelings with those films. Now… ugh. My only safe place is Andor and I do truly love Rogue One. But those didn't have the same level of oversight… or meddling, as the other DisSW. Same is generally true for first two seasons of Mando. I don't hate the way S3 went, but it doesn't feel the same. Anyway, cheers.

[@p.bckman2997]

I'm a tad younger than you, but feel exactly the same way. The Last Jedi was simply amazingly bad. Confusing, silly, contrived and all characters being stupid and acting out of character. I feel sorry for the cast.

[@Ulysses75]

This!! Old enough that the OT was my thing for years, I’ve seen all the movies at the cinema and The Last Jedi was the first time I’ve ever left the cinema having NOT enjoyed the movie. Andor - Awesome. Rogue One - Awesome. Everything else has been very…meh…

[@atticstattic]

@p.bckman2997 One podcaster I follow who does sci-fi trivia likened TLJ to "a series of oil paintings that have nothing to do with each other"

[@coolcat23]

TFA was so derivative it left a bad taste in one's mouth even if only subconsciously. However, unlike the prequels it was very well done and set up some great leads. I was excited after TFA, overall. Then TLJ hit like a sledge hammer. It was so bad, and worse, universe destroying, it killed something precious inside me.

[@johnwells5414]

Kathleen Kennedy being an executive producer on “Schindler’s List” was most likely just her meeting with Stephen Spielberg for a lunch to discuss budget or casting

[@charleskimball7058]

What are you basing this statement on?

[@johnwells5414]

⁠@@charleskimball7058That’s usually what the executive producer credit is. It’s usually a very hands off position. They may have had say in the budget or thrown out some ideas, but they aren’t big into the actual production. I learned it from a director in the business

[@sincerelynotme3522]

I love when Jester just doesn't hold back and cooks. Star Wars as a brand is over. They've ruined any integrity they used to have.

[@lostree1981]

"cooks" Getting tired of parrots using this everywhere.

[@TJ347]

It's no crime to call garbage... garbage. I mean, it is what it is.

[@TotesRandom]

If anything positive can be taken from the acolyte, its that it can be used as the final nail in the coffin. Star wars is dead, put a pin in it, lets ignore it and move on to more interesting stuff and let Disneys screams be drowned out by our deafening silence.

[@randomcharacter6501]

That's my plan. I've unsubbed from most of the culture war youtubers. Disney/Marvel/Star Wars sucks now but I don't need to hear about it everyday. I'm honestly tired of the self righteous bs from both sides. Nobody needs to watch movies and they aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.

[@AndreNitroX]

Or better yet they should just put it on a shelf and spare us more pain. And someday a worthy studio can purchase it from them

[@Brandonweifu]

A certain part of youtube needs to continue talking about how star wars is dead......so people sadly won't move on

[@thatHARVguy]

@@randomcharacter6501 I learned that the extremists from both sides use the same techniques. It is indeed tiring, so I unsubbed for the same reasons.

[@danieln6700]

Yip. We always have the good movies to watch and ignore the trash coming out. I'm not wasting time watching this new show.

[@gerrystarchild]

I stopped caring about Starwars. I was tired of being mad and disappointed. I don't watch anymore. This video should go viral. Disney needs to hear this. I couldn't explain it any better 😌. It is refreshing to know I am not the only one feeling this way

[@derek96720]

Same. Keeping the anticipation alive just makes the disappointment all the more strong. I'm checked out of Disney Star wars. I still have the old movies and books to enjoy.

[@danieln6700]

Apathy is hitting disney now. That's the worst thing for a company. Ppl aren't mad anymore they just don't care. I gave up on them like lots have. Never thought years ago I would be sick of starwars and marvel etc

[@_Darth_Vader_]

Disney did me so dirty I can never forgive

[@AhmelWilson]

Free my nigga Vader from the Disney shackles man.

[@Leonfei]

I'm a 35 year old guy. I was never into Star Wars as a very young kid, but obviously, in 1999 when I was 10 The Phantom Menace came out, and I absolutely fell in love with Star Wars. I'm unusual in that I came to Star Wars via the Prequels, and they've always been my favourite films. The wait for AotC and RotS felt eternal at the time, so I explored more of the Star Wars world with the original trilogy and delved into the EU, especially the Jedi Apprentice series of books set before Episode 1. By 2011, I was a mega fan and had a great time playing The Old Republic. I was excited when I heard there was going to be a sequel trilogy, but it was bitter sweet for me because it came at the cost of the EU being decanonised, and the EU was something I'd really gotten into. After seeing the Force Awakens I was...underwhelmed. I was firmly on the fence after watching the movie, I wasn't blown away by it, I kind of pegged it as a by the numbers rehash of A New Hope that relied on OT nostalgia to fool people into thinking it was good, but I was willing to see where they took the trilogy. Then we got to 2017 and the Last Jedi...I remember laughing at the scene where Luke throws his lightsaber over his shoulder in the cinema, but looking back, I think I was just confused. That movie took a huge, steaming dump all over a franchise I loved, broke so many established rules (while the films hadn't actively contradicted parts of the EU I could get away with thinking they were still canon, but TLJ put paid to that idea) and just wasn't what I knew as Star Wars. Then we entered the post-TLJ world, with attacks from the media calling us racist and sexist for not liking TLJ. I never saw Solo in the cinema (then fell asleep when watching it later on Disney+), because I was so disillusioned with the franchise at the time. Rise of Skywalker came along and while I think it's the best offering of the Sequel trilogy (it acknowledges the Prequels exist, unlike the other two movies, so that does it for me) it just couldn't clean up the mess TLJ had made of the franchise. Then we got the Disney+ content, and honestly, I haven't liked any of it that I've watched (Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2, and Kenobi). Mandalorian is Side Quests: The Show, very little of substance happens and the show leans way to hard on "Grogu does a cute thing, don't you find Grogu cute?" as a selling point. Kenobi was what killed it for me entirely - Obi-Wan was one of my favourite characters, but that show was one of the worst pieces of Star Wars media I've ever seen. Since then, I've just not been bothered. Star Wars is in a perpetual state of how it was in 2014 when it was sold to Disney, and the EU is still my true canon. The only media I'm willing to accept from the Disney era are the Jedi Survivor/Fallen Order games, and even then I ignore anything that references Sequel content. I'm done with Star Wars until it gets handed over to people who respect it more, ideally people who will create new content while honoring the old EU rather than just going "this is too difficult, can't be bothered". Edit: Oh also, fun fact (also, spoilers for KOTOR if you care) - the media like to claim that Star Wars fans are sexist, and that's why we don't like the new female-centric Star Wars. That couldn't be further from the truth. I was so excited when I heard the main character of the Sequel trilogy was going to be Rey, a woman. In my video games, I always prefer playing female characters because it gives a more novel experience than your typical action hero male character. In KOTOR that paid dividends, because the fact that your character turns out to be Revan, this Sith lord you've been hearing about throughout the game completely blindsided me, moreso than it would have if my character was male, because we'd never had a female villain at the time - they'd cleverly hidden the truth by using no pronouns to refer to Revan and using gender-neutral language. So no, I've always like female characters in my Star Wars.

[@dvb9075]

I saw one actor say that anakin blew up the death star and how he killed so many ppl on the Death Star 😭

[@Pedro-lg9wz]

Agree 100%, star wars has become a battleground for social politics when it was supposed to be about hope in a galaxy far far away!!!

[@markpayne6436]

Nailed it in one sentence.

[@resistancepublishing]

Remember folks, the fans didn’t destroy the things we loved. The lazy lack of talent creators and greedy companies did by producing unentertaining garbage that doesn’t make money. So when they call us hateful, remember who destroyed what we loved and turned it to crap in order for us to hate the culture. If they didn’t produce crap, we wouldn’t have anything to complain about. But fans do need to take some responsibility also. Stop supporting and buying so much garbage and these greedy companies won’t flood the market with garbage. Educate yourself on what you’re buying before you buy it.

[@kevinrudy]

No the greedy illiterate fans ruined it

[@ian-flanagan]

@@kevinrudy Illiterate..? They're movies..

[@mscapeh4451]

No the rad left did and woke

[@resistancepublishing]

@@kevinrudy how?

[@resistancepublishing]

@@mscapeh4451 the creators and greedy companies are the woke radical left

[@vegasgone07-dh4lb]

The Last Jedi isn't a new movie, it's literally the Empire Strikes Back backwards.

[@CoachM327-rb4ub]

100% I said that as soon as I walked out of the studio.

[@Feesh322]

I never thought about it like that. That's funny, because structurally and narratively, Empire was like an inverse of Wars/Hope...a subverting of expectations that worked, because what the filmmakers surprised us with was actually better and deeper and more thought out than what we could have hoped. The Empire Strikes Back left you wanting *more* . I left The Last Jedi not wanting *anything* . It's the bizarro Empire Strikes Back.

[@markrabideau4067]

That’s giving it way too much credit

[@talscorner3696]

The Empire Strikes (Ass)- Backwards? XD

[@MikeSidious]

Yes, thank you! I've been trying to point this out to people for several years now!

[@joelcarrillo7448]

Same thing is happening to my beloved Star Trek. The creative heads just don’t understand what made these properties special to so many people. Luckily enough there is a lifetime’s worth of content from books and comics and shows all made at Star Trek’s height to keep me vastly entertained. I can only assume that it’s true for Star Wars and their fans as well.

[@Xyponx]

It's even more insidious with Star Trek because it began a long time ago with DS9. After Enterprise performed terribly and got cancelled studios gave up on Star Trek. Then Kurtzman zombified the already dessicated corpse and continued along as if all was fine. Gene's vision is so tarnished we could power several Watchtower-class starbases from the energy generated by the extreme rotation in his resting place. Most people won't know this, but it's actually Rick Berman and Ira Behr that ruined Star Trek.

[@Vox_Zone]

Thank you so much. Everything you say in this video was so cathartic for me. Explained everything so succinctly and perfectly encapsulates what I feel about this. Star Wars was so good, it felt good and now it’s just depressing.

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

I'm just glad disney isn't doing old republic stuff.

[@charlesman8722]

Yet

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

@@charlesman8722 True, hopefully they never do.

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

@@BaithNa Yup, it could of been something truly awesome. Imagine seeing live action version of Darth Vitiate and the massive wars that take place in that era and that one time the Sith and Jedi actually teamed up stop Darth Vitiate coming back. Now I'd rather they stay far away from the Old Republic sruff.

[@AndreNitroX]

Everyday I am grateful they barely touch the EU, that is real Star Wars to me

[@BookOfWorms]

(Shhhh...we don't want to let them know it's there. Pretend you hate it.) Boo, vile old republic! What even is that?

[@gabnash5998]

The new star wars films needed a “Peter Jackson” someone who genuinely loves the property and would actually care about lore accuracy and doing right by the characters. They wouldn’t have to direct the films, just oversee them.

[@idiot_city5444]

In an alternate universe, this is what happened

[@KB-zq9ny]

Disney does have a tendency to not understand or care about the properties it buys. I saw it with some of the nicktoons they purchased, and this was way back in the 2000s. Ruining a small studio's cartoons is one thing, but ruining a big franchise like Lucas Film is almost criminal.

[@williamplants67]

Thank you! You articulated that so perfectly! For me what Lucas created was pretty much mythology(lite). I think that’s one thing that these creators either forgot or didn’t care enough about. Not saying you can’t have stuff like Andor (the only actual television show, not a 4 hour film haphazardly cut up) However, when you’re dealing with the sequels or Jedi and the Sith. That’s part of what made the original trilogy so relevant to so many people across the world for years. So to me while Disney just butchered this franchise once and for all. All they did was kill Disney Star Wars. Lucas mythology will outlast this garbage, and will, by just existing. Prove how far the franchise has fallen.

[@tonygriego6382]

Always refreshing to hear an honest opinion

[@Brandonweifu]

This is such a weird take 1.so if somebody actually likes modern star wars,they aren't honest? That's very strange 2.when you say "honest opinion" what you actually mean is "someone who feels the same way as me"

[@matthewpunk2012]

​@@BrandonweifuGo watch The Last Jedi.

[@kdkseven]

Best commentary on modern Star Wars i've seen. Well done.

[@TheBigExclusive]

I don't even care enough to hate it anymore

[@michealrosen]

I haven't reached that point yet but the acolytes pushing me to that.

[@Xyponx]

I agree. My opninion is that Disney killed Star Wars and there's no use crying over spilled milk. I don't care to stand around and stare as the spilled milk dries and then molds, either.

[@SamHell-wr8bi]

I turned my back on Star Wars after Last Jedi. Haven't seen any Star Wars since, don't care to.

[@monicaaboites5053]

I didn't even watch the trailer either.. More beyond of her relationship with Harvey Weinstein and her politics, I can't stand Lesyle Headland and her show off behavior. I saw her interview along with Dave Filoni, and only see just an arrogant woman who BELIEVES that she knows more about the character of Anakin than creator himself. That's arrogance, thinking that they could do better than George Lucas. This kind of behavior I found it incredible annoying, because they are unable to create something new by their own. Now, act like parasite chaning a product that does not belong to them and add, insulting the creator every time that they have a chance.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

Wrote much more but had to backspace going over the limit! Thanks again, JesterBell for the happy honest hype, especially with The Star Wars Shirt! Before your helpful motivation to reconsider the Star Wars prequel movies, I even preferred The Star Wars gangsta rap to any of the original trilogy movies!

[@beowulf1005]

It's not the East or the West side. NO IT'S NOT.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@Thed538dhsk ​ Hey, is my name John Henry or Jimmy Stewart? I don't think I stuttered! jk Yep, "Star Wars Gangsta Rap Original", it's the one with 1.8 million views on Luciano Miotto's channel! I heard it as a kid, and unlike the original Star Wars movies where I maybe finally liked them for first time since childhood thanks to JesterBell giving me motivation to reconsider my opinion on them because of her community post hyping up the Prequels as a "Gift," I always liked that rap. ahha However, even when I disliked Star Wars (I kinda despised re-watching movies in general), the "Father please" Vader Redemption scene was still my childhood favorite movie scene besides the Batman Mask of the Phantasm "I didn't count on being happy scene" (I don't know what my favorites now as an adult). I have a New Hope you'll enjoy!

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@beowulf1005 YOU ARE CORRECT! Awesome. Glad someone else heard it! I liked it since I was a kid! haha

[@beowulf1005]

​@@JohnHenrysaysHi my son and I had memorized the whole thing. Knock 'em out the box, Luke.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@beowulf1005 Nice family bonding!

[@666deadman1988]

As far as the Disney+ series' go, the problem I have with them mostly is that they took the wrong lessons from the success of the Mandalorian. Instead of it being a good show because of good writing and interesting characters/settings, they thought people just liked slow pacing, sparse dialogue and a gritty aesthetic. Everyhing they do now has those elements and it is so boring when the writing or story don't suit that style.

[@NoirNameless]

It’s funny, cause Disney for years swore up and down that women like you didn’t exist. I don’t wanna say it’s be turned into a “girl’s brand” but to act like every project doesn’t have some quote about women being empowered, or calling Star Wars “patriarchal” is just plain wrong. It’s still for everyone, in a way. But The obsession with getting women to pay more attention to the brand plays a part in it being damaged. But It’s mostly people having a big hand in Star Wars that have no clue what it is, or what to do with it. Everyone is upset, and they don’t seem to understand that. Never thought I’d see a time where I’d see people looking more forward to Dune than Star Wars because it fell so far.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

That's funny, because they bought Star Wars specifically to get more male fans. Disney was never concerned with female Star Wars fans. Kathleen Kennedy is.

[@rachelbrooke353]

​@TheDCbiz George's problem was that he surrounded himself with yes men. He needed people there to bounce his ideas off of before he included them.

[@rachelbrooke353]

@@Thed538dhsk you know, hindsight and all that.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@rachelbrooke353 No he didn't. That myth has been debunked.

[@Halfort57]

​​​@@vetarlittorf1807 Yes he did. That's why the prequels were so silly at times and just baffling in others. Maybe he was critical of the work he was doing, but obviously that self criticism was focused on all the wrong things. Perhaps the biggest proof that no one was willing to say no to any of his ideas is the mere concept of Jar Jar Binks who he expectación to become an instant fan favorite. That is, of course, unless you don't think The midichlorians are evidence solid enough

[@aarndelwynn3763]

Excellent video! You've nailed universal feelings that aren't tied to gender. One line especially hit me: good stories add to your life, bad ones take something away-like TLJ. I'm not just talking about bad films. Rian Johnson showed his disdain for fans even before release, adding silly jokes (remember the ironing shirts?). His elitist attitude was clear, though not obvious, and people felt it in TLJ. You summed it up-we felt something was taken away. Your perspective made me rethink. Why are woke patterns repeated despite flopping commercially? From Germany, the US culture war is easier to observe, though we're getting there too, just five years behind. I think it's not about money. Identity Politics folks thrive on fandom outrage, like medieval inquisitors needing to find evil. This backlash against female heroes reaffirms their views on racism and misogyny, giving them a new purpose. These writers and critics need backlash to reaffirm their identity. And as there is true misogyny out there, a couple of misogynistic comments is used to discredit all fans' opinions. Sadly, the real victims are the fans, actresses like Daisy Ridley, and anyone wanting to tell good stories. I've checked out of current pop culture altogether - SW, LOTR, games. Like Jester said, let's go back to the quality times of the products past, keep the positive spirit and then rebuild in 5 to 10 years on the ashes of current hollywood!

[@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399]

40+ years of star wars and Disney manage to kill it with one movie, it's remarkable

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

And all the content since is Disney defiling the corpse of star wars

[@DaVeO52]

I still enjoy the animated projects. I adored Andor. I'll never forgive them for trashing the Expanded Universe. But Star Wars is no longer special to me, and I used to be so proud to say I was a Star Wars fan through most of my life. I was 5 when I saw Star Wars '77 in a drive in theater in Pickering, Ontario. It's my earliest memory in life. SW was so important in my formative years of development and discovering the power of storytelling and Cinema. Now, it's a pretty shallow shadow of its former greatness. I'd say Disney's new lore does not live up to the EUs and they have had more misses then hits. It's not the Star Wars that I used to know, and I'm a pretty open guy when it comes to new material or a new direction to tell a story (again Andor and Rogue One). But this, Star Wars, barely reflects the fun storytelling of yesterday, so what's the point?

[@therealruski3906]

Heyo, it was nice to hear your take on this subject. - From a fan of pre-Disney SW

[@oliveragag8576]

The sequel trilogy has taken a lot of the fun out of Star Wars. It's become the nerd equivelant of politics, bringing it up only starts a massive impassioned argument with no one backing down(there's also a chance that real politics gets involved).

[@victoralexsandercolares4507]

Star Wars was always political, and honestly, the fandom discourse would be so much better if the fans stopped having tantrum tampers everytime a female or POC characters appears onscreen.

[@oliveragag8576]

@@victoralexsandercolares4507 This is what I'm talking about. You can't bring up Star Wars without someone trying to accuse the fans of misogyny or racism. And get that other strawman out of here, people were mad at the politics in the sequels because they're ham fisted and poorly handled.

[@LaboriousCretin]

1) They alienated the core audiences. 2) They moved away from family oriented. 3) They are pushing a agenda on people who don't want that. 4) Writing quality has been going down hill for years before they added cringe to make it worse. 5) They moved away from original concept. 6) They are bad with strong female caricatures and good Writing for such. I.E. they are making bad strong female rolls. 7) They are happy destroying a franchise. 8) The people they are catering to is a small %. 8) They are effectivly indoctrinating kids into a sexual life style which is as sick as pedophiles. 9) The lose of reason and attacking the fan base is never good. 10) They basically took the worst path. For a company or ideology. They hijacked a franchise and pushed a minority ideology. Pushed the original fan base away. Ruined a franchise. But like other things they get into to push broken ideology and those things fail. They don't seem to see that or realise they are making their own kind look really bad.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

Stoked! Your Star Wars prequel hype post for your great prequel vid gave me motivation to go back reconsider my opinion on Star Wars' movies where previously the Luke "Father please" Vader redemption scene was my childhood favorite movie scene besides the Batman Mask of the Phantasm "I didn't count on being happy," and I read Obi-wan books when I was a kid (Phantom Menace and A New Hope might have been my favorites back then...not sure) but I lost interest in the movies; however, still loved the Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith story conceptually, loving the novelization and also enjoyed the 2015 Paul S. Kemp Lords of the Sith novel from the new canon illustrating Anakin's enslavement to his fear and pride, 2003 Clone Wars, later episodes of the 2008 Clone Wars with Anakin, and I read almost every Star Wars comic on Marvel Unlimited... I never saw past Rogue One, and it was my favorite Star Wars at the time since whatever my mind is currently engaged with is generally my favorite, so, yep, before that, Force Awakens was my favorite having a blast at the theater and I loved being a chatterbox about it any opportunity (can you believe it?)! I was so stoked for the new cast seeing the new characters developed! (wanting to get the Figuarts...I did get one!) However, and I only saw them once, I remember the Bourne trilogy being my favorite when I was younger and might never see those again (I used to think the Dollars trilogy was the best), but recently got hyped thinking about the Star Wars prequel trilogy thanks to you and I could watch over again because imo they were so conceptually compelling for a fun springboard imaginative sandbox with Jedis to return to! Episode I The Phantom Menace- The main protagonist faction is The Galactic Republic who, while still using artificial intelligence, rely on the guardians of peace and justice religious Force-wielding Jedi as well as the little guy, Jar Jar Binks and his fellow native inhabitants of the planet Naboo, the Gungans, for victory, who are happy to help the Republic when not looked down upon. The main antagonist faction is the Separatists who, while still using religion with the hate-filled powerlusting religious Force-wielding Sith (not well, since Darth Maul just stands there like a chump for our chum Obi-wan to take him out, and even before that, why didn't he slice up Qui-Gon when he dropped down by him? I could understand Obi-wan not using his Force dash move in the fight because maybe he was Force sensing something was up, but there wasn't much Maul character development so I'd think it would be all in just making him a, relative to the dark side of the Force, near perfect physical warrior, but I didn't see it. Perhaps, he wasn't as good of action figure, but, imo, Jar Jar Binks is a better character than Maul; however, out of context, Duel of Fates rocked), rely on Battle Droids/Artificial Intelligence for victory and fail Both sides are being manipulated by Chancellor Palpatine of the Republic, who is the lead Sith Lord Darth Sidious where he's working both sides to destroy the Jedi and Separatist leaders, including the Sith Lord Leader of the Separatist Army Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus. Episode II Attack of the Clones- The Republic, out of desperation to defeat the rise of the increased artificial intelligence technology used skillfully by The Separatists, ally with, though not necessarily supportive of the means, the manufacturing of human life through artificial reproduction, which is opposed to the traditional selfless loving union of husband and wife for life, which, former slave and orphan Jedi apprentice Anakin Skywalker (his slave mother gets murdered..and he takes revenge wiping them out, even the women and children of the murderers), a main Star Wars protagonist who later becomes Star Wars' primary antagonist, taking the Sith Lord name Darth Vader, is all for traditional marriage and does get married to former Queen of Naboo and then Senator, Padme, but is disobedient to religious Jedi code since they forbid it; however, it's sincere love so he might have been thinking he could be following the Jedi's principle of being against attachment and possession, which, correct me if I'm wrong but I thought maybe the Jedi developed it over concern over the division of heart/passion where they wouldn't be free to order their passion toward their vocation for peace and justice kinda like: 1 Corinthians 7:32-34 I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy in both body and spirit. A married woman, on the other hand, is anxious about the things of the world, how she may please her husband. which eventually Anakin does enslave himself...to his pride, wrath, and lust for power. Also, in The Phantom Menace, Anakin's Jedi Master Obi-wan who brought him into the Jedi order told the lead Jedi Master, Yoda, that he would disobey Yoda to mentor Anakin to become a Jedi, due to Obi-wan's Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn leaving him with the duty to mentor Anakin into becoming a Jedi, before Qui-Gon was murdered by the Sith Darth Maul, and Qui-Gon wasn't the most straightforward honest guy and it shows later on in the next movie that other Jedi don't strictly follow their code, so maybe it wasn't such a strict code for Jedi to work with, and/ or they're flawed people. Oh, and Anakin becomes a cyborg to replace his arm which was chopped off in battle with Count Dooku. However, I guess if you agree with Elon, he and everybody were already cyborgs because of their use of technology. That logic worked out for me as a kid! Someone broke my finger while playing football, and I said he broke my arm since it was attached to it, and then I ended up with pizza and my coach ended up with a yacht! jk Episode III Revenge of the Sith- The Sith Lord Chancellor Palpatine unites the Republic and Separatists into the Galactic Empire, using Order Sixty-Six to take away the Clones' free will, ordering them to wipe out Jedi, and Palpatine, after years of acting as a fake friend confidant for the passionate suffering Anakin, who is tormented fearing the loss of pregnant wife Padme dying in childbirth, convinces the poor soul to use his dark spiritual Sith ability to save Padme's life, and meanwhile, Anakin plots to overthrow Palpatine thinking from an ends justify the means point of view, thinking he can reform the Republic by forcing peace, which by the way, Palpatine eliminates the larger reliance on the more advanced artificial intelligence, and it didn't look like he's using artificial reproduction/cloning, just using whatever clones were already living, so he and Anakin's Empire appears similar to the earlier Republic from a materialistic perspective, but spiritually, the world is enslaved in darkness after Anakin's fall from grace where, on his quest for reformation for his prideful idea for peace and justice, he's so consumed with remorseless pride after murdering so many Jedi, including children training to be one, breaks his wife Padme's heart seeing all this devastation so...her children Luke and Leia, besides Obi-wan and Yoda, are some of the brighter hopeful lights left in the universe...they eventually, relatively, save the galaxy, where they, similar to in the Phantom Menace, work alongside native inhabitants Ewoks to help save the day, as well as with an awesome reformed mercenary Han Solo who they helped redeem, and Luke redeems his father Anakin to turn away from the Dark side. And I thought with Revenge of the Sith, George Lucas was inspired by another George, W Bush, with Anakin's "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy," but I think, taking the film for what it is, I don't think it's so much there where I think Anakin's fall from grace story could be interpreted as including a universal notion of corruption in the midst of troubling political times. Imo, it had metaphorical political appeal kinda like Captain America Civil War with Iron Man being more metaphorical big government and Captain America being more metaphorical for subsidiarity (I wore my Captain America shirt to the theater in support, even though Iron Man was my favorite character because of the redemption arc from the first Iron Man movie and RDJ's charisma...I prefer Captain America in older comics though!), but I think the Emperor is a more universal appeal villain to apply to any manipulative person such as a politician, psychologist, teacher, influencer, businessman, commentator, religious leader, etc. playing on the selfish passion encouraging enslavement to sin. I liked it because there was the Emperor's emotional manipulation with Anakin's pride (I appreciated in the novelization that Anakin took responsibility for it being about himself over Padme if I recall correctly); fantastic music and imaginative world; Hayden Christensen's facial acting tearfully looking out the window concerned over his wife being one of my favorite facial acting performances besides Liv Ullman in Autumn Sonata looking at her mom when playing the piano (also, I liked the moment in Attack of the Clones with his breakdown over getting revenge for his mother which helped inform his dark downfall); Yoda's admitting his pride; and I liked the "only a Sith deals in absolutes" line that people criticized because I thought it brought humanity to Obi-wan's characterization and the criticism of the line was, in a way, imo, making Obi-wan's point with the downfall of uncharitable rigid thinking, which I struggle with making me think of...and it's a reason why Revenge of the Sith is the most meaningful to me, and hopefully I didn't mess up here.

[@matthewpunk2012]

Ok.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@matthewpunk2012 Thank you, Matthew. Hope you and yours have a good day!

[@Brandonweifu]

​@@JohnHenrysaysHi? No you don't

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

@@Brandonweifu Is this a Jedi Mindtrick? I don't think it worked on me... Edit: actually it did! I got an excuse for not doing my homework! Thanks!

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Let her cook. This is going to be good.

[@lostree1981]

"cook" Getting so tired of parrots regurgitating shit funnier people say.

[@ian-flanagan]

@@lostree1981 You seem really angry at words other people use. Either you're depressed, or can't tolerate other cultures. Either way, maybe take a break from the internet

[@Hemskelol]

She's repeating what every male Star Wars fan has been saying for nigh 5 years now

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

@@lostree1981 You are regurgitating me though. 😜

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

As a guy, I agree with the dividing part. It's not just Star Wars, but other welcoming franchises and characters, like Warhammer 40.000, Star Trek, DnD or Lara Croft. But now, these things aren't "inclusive" enough and need to change

[@mitchnissen7175]

Well said and beautifully put. Especially your description of the power of storytelling. You could apply this analysis to much of the treatment of franchises in general since 2016. Excellent analysis. I very much share your sentiments. I can still remember the drive home after watching the Last Jedi and the hollowed out feeling it left me with. For all their accusations of toxic fandoms, it is the filmmakers, writers, and companies themselves who've proven to be toxic.

[@hgriff14]

i was 6 years old when the attack of the clones came out and that was the first time i found out that Hayden wasnt just a girls name and anakin became my favorite movie character ever solely based on the fact that the actors name was Hayden. they ruined that character and mocked people for being mad at it. i guess the headland bs “this is the show i needed to help me when i was a little kid” quote only matters when you are on the freak squad. disney ruined the one thing that gave me confidence in who i was then because according to them the only acceptable way to be confident is if it is not being confident in being masculine. and to your point of star wars originally being for men, who was the first character shown and who was the leader of the rebel alliance? a new hope fought the “patriarchy” better than any modern feminist screenwriter ever has or could.

[@JurassicRod]

I was so excited going in to watch Force Awakens at the cinema, looking forward to seeing how the world of Star Wars had evolved and developed since the end of ROTJ. But I was quickly frustrated, growing into infuriated as I realized everything had been reset to how it was at the start of New Hope and I had been tricked into paying to watch a remake. I knew then that Disney had no idea of what to do with the franchise so haven't spent a penny on it since.

[@ernestmuric6719]

I sat there and was unmoved and felt myself trying to enjoy it. It was like I was watching a TV show. Zero gravitas.

[@MichaelEvansMLE]

To say that Star Wars was a guy show is hilarious, because I was introduced to S W by my two female best friends who said, "You have to sees this movie, we're taking you!" And they did. It was a love for a movie that we saw five times in the theater., but now, I have zero interest in it's present incarnation.

[@cthulhurising666]

What a fantastic take! So glad I found your channel. I am old enough to have seen the OT as a kid and you nailed it!

[@SanjuroSan]

Wow. You nailed it. Absolutely spot on at every level. I would love to hear this girl talk on some of the major youtube channels. Clear eyed observations!

[@finlayduncan5167]

You talk a lot of sense, especially regarding female characters! I am currently re-reading the pre Disney “legends” extended universe novels as a way to enjoy Star Wars how it was meant to be. There are some great strong female characters throughout those books who just don’t feel forced like the Disney Era characters,

[@tannerp.4996]

Noticed you didn’t mention Andor. Highly recommend it. It’s a very well-written show that gives even more depth to the Rebellion and the Empire. Many fans who dislike the majority of Disney Star Wars even really like it. It was nominated for three Emmys. It really enhances Rogue One and the OT

[@mikesmithz]

No point, all roads lead back to the last jedi. If the show isn't woke now, you can guarantee it will become woke before long. No point investing any time into anything Disney does.

[@tannerp.4996]

@@mikesmithz Use headcanon to ignore the sequels and enjoy a well-made show. An excellent show that was made by different writers shouldn’t have to suffer because of a different project. Also, there is only one season left for Andor and I trust Tony Gilroy to not let the quality decrease

[@espo221b]

Disney ruined it. No point in giving them more money so they could continue making crap.

[@tannerp.4996]

@@espo221b You realize that Disney does make both good and bad products like every other studio? It’s important we tell them what we like so we get more of that in the future

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

It's not actually that well written. It's just compared to other Disney Star Wars projects.

[@arbhall7572]

The women that declare how much they love Disney Star Wars are never convincing. They are barely holding their contempt for it and its perfectly obvious. They hate the Star Wars that came before, and they really dont care much for what it is now. Its sad. I used to love Star Wars. Now it annoys the hell out of me. Ill keep at my library of EU books and the movies and games made before the Purge.

[@hatuletoh]

Lucasfilm under the direction of the Fabulous Miss Kathy Kennedy [TM] didn't turn Star Wars into a "girl brand." They attempted to turn it into a "girl brand," but Kennedy and the Lucasfilm story group are so incompetent, and so completely beholden to their sociopolitical ideology, that they can't make anything that genuinely appeals to anyone, male or female. Also, just like all of Hollywood, they don't hire the most talented people who are best suited for a position or role, they hire people based upon physical and claimed cultural characteristics, which have no bearing at all on a candidate's ability to perform the job. It is a truly remarkable failure--historical, really. 50 years from now or maybe sooner students in college business, marketing, and communication classes will study how Star Wars was turned from an evergreen, multi-billion dollar, cross-generational franchise into, well, whatever it is now.

[@Arob4343]

Any thoughts on The Bad Batch? It didn’t seem watered down with social justice stuff, it didn’t stab people with a lightsaber and not kill them, and it was very family focused/driven

[@krissywizzle]

Anytime I hear anyone say that, movies or books don't matter who cares?, it is just such a wild take to me. Art (which most definitely includes books and film) is a vessel through which we experience the world around us. It provides insight into our own emotions and issues through it, we're confronted by views and perspectives we've never considered before or we maybe haven't wanted to consider before, we can relate both to things we understand from our own personal histories and to things we once found entirely unrelatable. It moves us, it grows with us and helps us grow. It's a completely unique way to impress upon us a million different lifetimes of a billion different thoughts, feelings, desires, etc that really are just our own mirrored back to us. That's why it can affect us so deeply and become something ingrained that we take along with us as we go. Anyone who doesn't experience that, I genuinely feel sorry for. Also yes as a woman I completely agree with your take on "SW for the girls".

[@ronharrington6583]

Thanks!

[@Channel-jh1zw]

For me the sequels and some of the shows are pretty stagnant with scenarios and styles. Despite the atrocious dialogue I liked how the prequels had a different look compared to the originals, which made it feel like a different time period. Also it had different bad guys rather than just stormtroopers again. On top of that it wasnt a rebellion or resistance but rather a full scale war between two sides. I think it would have helped the sequels if it wasn't the same scenario as the original (rebellion fighting stormtroopers who have a superweapon). Something i'll give the props department credit for is some of the blasters are based off modern firearms in the sequels which suggests blaster tech has advanced, as the original trilogy had blasters made out of ww2 guns.

[@GeeGeePrime]

Hey 👋 This is one of the best takes on modern star wars I've seen so far. Truly gets to the bottom of why so many of us are not enjoying these recent shows. So well articulated and without a lot of the venom (which is understandable) that is going around at the moment. I hope as many people as possible see your video! 🙏

[@deathbysloth]

I find most streaming drama shows to be slow and meandering, Disney+ shows doubly so. It's like once the time constraints of broadcast tv were lifted, people began putting extra ponderousness in them to make them seem more important or something. There are some exceptions, but it's happened too often for me not to be trepidatious about investing my time.

[@BMichaelGalloway]

Originally was going to skip this video based on its length. 😳However, this is the best take I've seen and the most thought out perspective on the trouble of Star Wars.

[@timothymorris157]

You’re absolutely right about Star Wars! Rian Johnson and The Last Jedi destroyed the legacy as well as my fandom of the franchise. I’ll still watch my dvd collection of the Skywalker Saga but aside from that I’ll never watch any of the online streaming series ever because it’s modern day Disney and to hell with the house of mouse!

[@Theworthlessopinion]

TLJ is truly the worst movie theater experience I’ve ever had! Bad movies happen all the time but they’re also completely disposable and deliberate. But I should be able to go into a Star Wars movie in 2017 without expecting my intelligence insulted

[@timothymorris157]

@@Theworthlessopinion Yeah it really seems like Disney just has no vision and creativity to expand the lore of the Star Wars franchise but is only concerned about the money because clearly they’re a bunch of sellouts who really don’t give a shit about the fans whatsoever especially KK or Kathleen Kennedy.

[@tannerp.4996]

Highly recommend Andor though. It’s a very well-written series that gives even more depth to the Rebellion and the Empire. Many fans who dislike the majority of Disney Star Wars even really like it. Was nominated for three Emmys. Really enhances Rogue One and the OT

[@Theworthlessopinion]

@@BaithNa god. Bless. You. I was open minded after TFA even though deep down it was a “remake in disguise” which you really don’t want for an ongoing narrative like Star Wars. You want the next chapter that furthers the story. Then TLJ happened. At this point, just abandon it. Don’t get mad, it doesn’t deserve it. Just abandon it.

[@maynx]

Thank you so much for articulating how you feel from your perspective. Really appreciate and agree with every single point you made. I hope this goes viral.

[@nottafinga9229]

I think what a lot of people don't understand is that things like out of place castings, or the odd eye rolling pandering line, aren't what makes these modern movies and shows bad, they are just red flags that indicate the writers have little creative integrity in making realistic dialogue and casting choices. Because poor writing does go hand in hand with these things, people will jump to thinking the problem is the women, messing up causation and correlation. Like they know something is bad but are quick to place it on the first thing they notice. It's kinda like when toby's spider-man 3 came out and people thought the problem was having "multiple villains" when it was simply poor writing from studio interference.

[@borbafet9206]

I absolutely feel you. And it is so devastatibg when one of the biggest passions of your life gets taken away from you. Just know that we are basically all in the same boat here

[@KyrieKirigiri]

They basically tried to turn Star Wars into the MCU where everything ties into everything else instead of singular projects with their own artistic merit. They devalued the brand by producing tons of live action TV stuff (even though prior live action was reserved only for the films) in an effort to sell Disney+ to people and now Star Wars has just become another random IP in the Disney machine, just like The Simpsons.

[@darrenklein6742]

I have been a Star Wars fan for my entire life. What Disney did to Star Wars was trash and continues to be trash and will not recover. They destroyed Star Wars the people running Lucas Films are idiots and woke activists who have no clue what they are doing trying to fill the shoes of people that are far beyond them. It shows that Disney will be the last company to change though when they do they will be broke seeing they are loosing billions of dollars as we speak. If they don't get their crap together they will be bought out, that is why other theme parks are overtaking Disney because they have much better attractions. Though in the end, I will stick to what they refer to Legends now, and that is where I will stay, along with making up my own Star Wars Stories.

[@francoferrero5124]

I mean, from the thumbnail i can guess where we are going XD Long live KK and her reign of terror, could all her incompetence be punished someday

[@Tony-hv8wz]

There was already powerful women all thru star wars. Leia, ahsoka, padme, asajj ventress. But the new writers don't like them because their sexualities weren't defined. Smh. They were good compelling characters.

[@jarerarebear1765]

Obi Wan Kenobi was the final breaking point for me. It was a wake up call and channels like yours just affirmed it. I just can't get personally invested in Disney Star Wars, it's more fun to roast than to watch.

[@Syfcobra8549]

In hindsight...im beyond HAPPY that they never uses EU material for their garbage movies and tvshiws They would probably have turned Mara Jade lesbian , one of the 3 Solo kids would have been gay for sure(probably Jacen) and the other would use pronouns (probsbly Anakin) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rachel43210]

You have the most spot on Star Wars commentary✨

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@rachel43210 She isn't the only one.

[@juanosorio3278]

Star Wars feels like a cosplay of Star Wars

[@pemzenas]

Probably the best video I’ve seen on this issue so far… You’ve put into words some stuff I’ve been feeling but couldn’t really articulate, even to myself… Hands down the biggest issue with Disney Star Wars and even current Disney Marvel is that the people in charge really couldn’t care less about the respective i.p’s or their fanbases. Every time something new comes out or I see an interview clip, it really *is* like something being taken away, and for me, being replaced with apathy. I might just take your advice and revisit some of the older audiobooks I enjoy so much and remind myself why I was so taken by the Galaxy Far Far Away in the first place 🙏🏾 +1 Sub

[@GabiBrooks]

OMG ,it was you! I remember that clip you did clearly, but I hadn't made the connection. I remember feeling like you were the first SW female fan who understood me. I am basically in the same place rn. Can't bring myself to watch the Acolyte or anything else even though I've been hearing cool stuff about the first two episodes.

[@Dark_Kommissar]

Great video. I agree that the people making Star Wars have taken it away from the fans and given it to a small group of people for whom they have an affinity, people like themselves. Women have always been welcome in the Star Wars fandom.

[@gradis13]

Since they make reylo canon, i lost all interest in star wars Disney only the mandalorian seaon 1 and 2, and andor i can truly say are good.

[@gradis13]

@@Thed538dhsk i still have mix feelings about the season, the rhyt was a problem for me

[@shortyzander1341]

Andor is literally the only thing keeping me on board.

[@onepouchman]

Young lady, I am a Gen Xer in my late 40s, and you just shared the best take on Disney Star Wars EVER! The infinite number of KZbin channels that use bad writing and direction in Star Wsrs to validate their prejudices are being disingenuous and downright perverse. Your opinion is pure, and I thank you for sharing!

[@LarryJ602]

Star Wars is just a commercial product used to deliver messaging for Southern California politics. That's it. Story telling doesn't matter. Characters don't matter. Lore and canon do not matter. The fans and core target audience doesn't matter. Just get something out the door for a target audience of progressive feminist in urban areas. It doesn't need to be written, directed, or acted well. The Star Wars brand will bring people in. This is what Star Wars is now under Disney.

[@TheAlexisBrownChannel]

I completely agree with you Jester!!! I’ve been saying the same stuff and I’ve felt so excluded the franchise, I’ve been a fan since I was eight years old, Revenge of the Sith was the first Star Wars film I saw and it was so fun to see in theaters in 2005. I’m now 27 going on 28 and everything that Kathleen has done is nothing short of what she thinks is what people want to see, but it’s really just her ego in the way. She has no respect for Star Wars as a story and everything thing George Lucas created and that is the thing that pisses me off the most. I’ve also been seeing a lot of men be misogynistic or homophobic towards her and every woman making these new shows. Her being a woman in charge of Star Wars is not the problem, a man could easily do the same things that she is doing. The problem is, is that she is a person who doesn’t respect Star Wars as a story and wants to put out her ideas and that doesn’t work because it completely goes against what George ideas were and she’s also not a storyteller. I will always be a Star Wars fan, I only read the expanded universe too, because it stays try to George’s concept. Star Wars is about hope and unity and I really hope one the franchise gets into better hands, hands of someone who appreciates it and respects the story and legacy.

[@Tyarrk]

I still remember falling asleep halfway through TLJ. I didn´t know there was a "throne room fight" until a watched a breakdown of it and thought: "wait, that was a thing?".

[@joeljimenez6675]

Take care jesterbell 🤓👍

[@footmerc]

That Disney gaslight goes hard tho. We all had hope, but people warned us about this Disney buy out. We didn't listen. We said how could it be any worse than the prequels? Ohhhhh how naive we were!

[@Winmas22John]

You are absolutely 100% correct . For me I remember sitting in the cinema watching the force awakens a film I had high hopes for and high hopes for Disney and then they killed Han Solo and I remember saying to myself well that's the end of Star wars then. how could they do this. and slowly over the next few films they destroyed every hero you looked up to .from Luke Skywalker princess Leia Han Solo. Disney has been slowly destroying everyone's childhood dreams and then they made the TV series and they can continue to destroy more of our beloved characters like boba Fett and now with the new series the acolyte has just turned into agenda driven woke garbage.I will not watch anything Disney now .just stay true to the original ..may the force be with you always..

[@willem1642]

I remember every scene from the prequels and the original series. I couldn't remember if I had seen The Rise of Skywalker or not. I had seen it, including the superpowerful spaceships that can destroy planets but don't know what direction is up without a special signal.